The Creep Off - Episode 82: Is He Okay?

Episode Date: October 4, 2021

This week Karl & Vinnie are joined by our new pal Eric Zane from the Eric Zane Show to celebrate the start of Jocktober with our second attempt to discover who is the creepiest radio pers...onality of all time: In the Scum Parade we meet a woman who just wanted to cuddle longer, A man who just wanted to keep God happy and finally we learn why living in Syracuse is a health risk.To Vote: https://thecreepoff.com/To listen to more Eric Zane visit: https://ericzaneshow.com/To Support the show visit: https://www.patreon.com/TheCreepOff

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things. I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Go-coo, go-goo. Showtime.
Starting point is 00:00:27 Woo! You're from upstate New York. Let's pipe down a little. bit. disgusting. Disgusting. Ola Creepos. Welcome to another edition of your
Starting point is 00:00:58 favorite True Crime Podcast, the show about creeps by creeps for creeps. I am your host. I'm the Tower of Power, too sweet to be sour. I'm funky like a monkey. Sky's the limit and space is the place. That's me, Vinnie Paulino, and as always, it's hot. Cucca, Carla.
Starting point is 00:01:17 What is happening, Vinnie? Always so smooth with those intros. It surprises you every time they have to play drops right before you announce your name. How does that happen every single week that you forget that? Also joining us today to celebrate. because it is Jocktober. Jocktober! To celebrate radio and radio personalities,
Starting point is 00:01:34 Eric Zane from the Eric Zane show. What's happening, my buddy? I am ready to go, gentlemen. Thank you for having me. I'm very, very lucky. Was that moonshine you just poured into that glass? What was that? It's water, Vinnie Paulina,
Starting point is 00:01:47 which you should drink more of because I know you're turning the corner and getting more health conscious, right? Yes. It's up to Vinny I know. What is this like intervention? Is this an ambush? Yes.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Is this what this is, Carl? Put the pizza down, Vinnie. I'm not doing this again. Your eating has affected me in the number of ways that I'll be reading about starting now. I don't want to do that. Eric Zane, thanks so much for joining us on the show today. Before we get into our creeps, though, we have to talk about what happened last week. Now, Carl, you got your clock cleaned, buddy.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Oh, did I? I honestly have not looked at the website. I'm going to pull it up right now. I'm going to show it to you right now. It's coming to your screen. See, whatever. Last week we did, what, creepiest teacher? Or elementary school teacher. Yes, and my creeps name was Audra Mabel, and the FBI got a hold of her.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And I won with 76% of the vote last week. 77% of the vote. I'd like to thank all of my creepomaniacs, all of my true believers. I would just say, the folks did good by me this week, and I'm going to do good by you this week. The Couseroo's took a week off. That's fine. The Coussorosos deserved a week off. That's fine.
Starting point is 00:02:59 we'll come back from that. Let's talk about the current score. I now have three, Carl has two, and our guest category has four. Oh, boy. Which means that they are on game point, no pressure, Eric Zane. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:15 You can win it for the guests. So listen, I'm really going to need you to fuck this up. Yeah, Eric, if you could drop the ball today, that'd be great. I might. I do that from time to time. I'm not going to lie. How about that for taking the pressure off? We're like, we hope you suck. today. Hey Eric, you're gonna blow it. Eric's gonna blow it. Before we get started, let's tell
Starting point is 00:03:36 everybody what our category is. We said because it is the start of Jocktober, we're gonna discover the creepiest radio personality. And Eric used to work in that world, so I'm sure you might have a little more knowledge than... Yeah, unfair advantage. She's worked with them all. I've been banned from radio stations. Well, that's good, but I don't think you did it because you're a creep, right? I mean, I'm giving you benefit of the doubt. have bullied an overweight woman. Wow. I do that on a weekly basis. It's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:06 No, I mean, when you guys said creepiest radio personality, first I went to a guy who you featured in the past on the show named John Ballio, who it just happens to be that he's from the community that I live in. How's he doing? Do you keep up? I actually, yeah, I did
Starting point is 00:04:21 when I was starting to think that I was going to be talking about it, but I'm not because you guys had addressed it once before. But he actually is a cooperative. with, he's turned into kind of like one of those, a rat who's kind of like been providing insight. It isn't going to affect his sentence, but I guess that's what he's doing now, trying to turn his life around. He was the Christian radio kitty didler. Correct. And it was, it was an ugly scene. So I thought that I could talk about that. But you, since you guys have
Starting point is 00:04:50 done that, I said, okay, but no problem. I have stories that are also horrible that I am involved. I am involved in two stories. I mean, I honestly don't feel like I have a chance to win because you guys are experts at this, but I do have two. Yeah, that's right. You have no chance to win. Wait a second. You didn't bring Eric Zane, did you? Because that's the person I picked for this week.
Starting point is 00:05:13 It wouldn't surprise me. And you'd be justified in doing that, Carl. But no, I do have two stories. Well, I guess Vinny has to get started since he won. Well, we give it to the guest. The guest has the privilege of getting to be the first battle. up. Why do you say that? I feel like that's kind of rude to do, I guess. We should
Starting point is 00:05:30 get things started. All right. Are you trying to put me on this spot? Yes. You have to go first. You won. That's how we always do it. All right, fine. Let's start the creep off. I would like to introduce my creep today. He comes from a little place called
Starting point is 00:05:46 England. Ah, that's jolly. And this is the theme to his fantastic radio show. And now you're a part of it. The Great Jimmy Savile is my creed
Starting point is 00:06:00 It doesn't sound British. Did that sound like a British person singing? That was the opening to his show, which started on radio, ended up on television. Okay, great. He started off as a DJ. He was born in 1926, and he died in 2011. He was an English media personality. He was a radio host. He also hosted television.
Starting point is 00:06:17 His biggest claim to fame was he was the first host of the BBC's Top of the Pops. All right. Which was a show that you had to have heard of, Carl. Of course, yeah. In fact, Carl, I'm going to show you a picture. Just to show you how famous Jimmy Saville was in the 60s. Here's a picture of him and a couple of his pals. Oh, I know those guys.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Yeah, those lovable scamps. Those guys wrote a couple of good songs. Yeah, those guys are well-known. The Beatles, I believe. That was your pals of the Beatles, your favorite band of all time. Them and ween, yeah. Yeah. So after he died, reports started servicing that he had sexually abused hundreds of individuals.
Starting point is 00:06:52 See, this is the problem with this happened to Norm McDonald, too. The guy dies and also, it's like, oh, he fondled me. Oh, I got dittled. Like, listen, you had your chance. You got to talk about that when the guy can defend himself. Otherwise, I don't want to hear about it. Okay, well, the police did a little bit of investigating, and we're going to talk about his career. Why? What are they going to do?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Like, that's such a waste of their time. The guy's dead. You're only saying that because you're scared of going to beat you. Of course, that's why I'm saying that, but I'm also right. Now, the victims in this were male and female raging from prepubescent to adult. Okay. So he ran the gamut, our pal Jimmy Saville. And I'm going to show you a picture of him.
Starting point is 00:07:28 I'd like you to just get an idea what this motherfucker looked like. Okay, so he is a ghoul. Creep is a word I might use for that. Yeah, that is like the fucking, that's the cryptkeeper right there. Yeah. Kind of that with the Playboy guy combined. A little Hugh Heffner. And you know what, in a lot of ways, he kind of reminds me of like a British Howard Stern.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Okay. He's like kind of has the same glasses, but just blonde hair. Okay. He's just an ugly man who works. is he also boring and shitty yeah actually very much so it's just like Howard Stern okay very much so 195 the earliest incident of abuse
Starting point is 00:08:05 recorded by the police that took place in Manchester where at the time he managed a dance hall it was very similar to a lot of complaints that would happen over the next few years this guy sounds like Dick Clark is he the British Dick Clark yes he managed a dance hall this is like Ryan Seuss this is Dick Clark yeah yeah but he looks like a blonde Howard Stern
Starting point is 00:08:25 Did Dick Clark Diddle kids? Should I put that out there right now? I don't think you should. Well, I mean, the cops aren't going to investigate him now. He's dead, Carl. Exactly. It's over. It's over, Johnny.
Starting point is 00:08:36 So he was accused when a 10-year-old boy asked him for an autograph outside a hotel. He took the boy inside and, quote, seriously sexually assaulted him. Jesus. Yeah, a 10-year-old boy. Autigrates are expensive these days, but back then people were, you know, it was a little cheaper than that. You know, you know how much I had to pay to meet F-T. T.R. at A.W. Fan Fest. So reach around?
Starting point is 00:08:59 On January, 1964, he presented the first ever top of the pops. He had been working in radio at the time. He was a very, very famous man. He came up with a spin-off show that made him Uber famous. And it also allowed him to spend a lot of time hanging out with kids, man. He started a show called Jim Will Fix It. Basically, what that was, let me give you a good example. Kids would write in and they would say, hey, Jim, this is what I've always. always wanted to do, and then Jimmy would help them live their dreams.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Jim will fix it. Here's a great example of the kind of great advice and the way he would help mentor kids. Dear Jim, ever since I can remember, I've always wanted to be a singer, but shyness has always got in the way. Please could you fix it for me to sing. Your sincerely, Debbie Coleman. Here's somebody to help her who also has a problem with being shy. Gary Glitter.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Some shows, honey. Here, let me help you learn to sing. Here's Gary Glitter. Here's an 11-year-old girl, Gary. Have fun. Now, you want to be even more creeped out? Here's some footage from the set of a show he did in 1973 with Gary Glitter. The show is called Clunk Click.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Just watch the video here, Carl, if you would like to do the play-by-play. I always enjoy it when you do. Okay. Gary Glitter is now a convicted child sex offender, but he denies these new... There they are on the set. There's a lot of children. Children on the set watching. They're walking towards the children.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Yep. And Jimmy's telling them to move over. Okay. You're making some room. You get two. All right. So he's sitting in between them. I should be giving girls away.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And Gary Glitter is to treat two teenage girls and he puts his arms around him and brings him in clothes. He looks very happy, too. Yeah. All smiles. And then Jimmy sits down with a couple more girls. I just find a more girl. Yeah. He's got a special access to many institutions.
Starting point is 00:10:52 He's got a cigar. Very classy, this man. No. When you hang out with young pre-fubescent girls, you just walked up and Gary Glitter looked at me, he goes, I get two of them. Yeah. And his response was, yeah, you get two.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Look at me, give it away girls. So he's friends with Gary Glitter. You win, all right? Is that what you want to hear? My question is, you think about the parents back then, guys. Is there anyone in that community that has any fucking discretion and can't see? I mean, I know they don't know that these guys are rapists yet, but still, do you get one fucking look at them?
Starting point is 00:11:22 You're like, eh, maybe you shouldn't go. to the show. Yeah, I know. I'm looking at those people, I'm like, they started the show for nefarious reasons. Very creepy. There are accusations that came out that a lot of things were happening with children on the sets of his shows. Yeah. Yeah. Like smiles and candy.
Starting point is 00:11:42 Fun. Well, stinky fingers. Actually, another example is in 1972. He's recorded as groping, by the police, as groping a 12-year-old boy and his two female friends who were attending a recording of Top of the Pops. At some point in the decade, a female victim is believed to have told the Metropolitan Police, she was assaulted in Seville's car in the parking lot at the BBC. The police file could not be located and the investigating officer is now dead.
Starting point is 00:12:09 Records show abuse that only started at the BPC, but at a Leeds General Infirmary where Seville was a long-term volunteer porter and at Stoke-Manville Hospital where he volunteered and raised over 40 million pounds for the hospital. So he was known as a philanthropist. People loved him for doing all the work that he took for hospitals. It's not all good or all bad. Well, let's talk about his working with the hospitals, shall we? Yeah, let's talk about how he was a great guy and gave back to the community. I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:40 Jimmy Saville, a covert predatory paedophile, not just inside the BBC, but the NHS. National health system. Chiefly at Stoke Mandeville in Buckinghamshire, where he was allowed unrestricted access for decades. as the hospital's high-profile fundraiser. We cannot have the pontus kipping on the floor, so we need a few quid for beds and such like. He generated more than a few quid, enough to build a new spinal unit,
Starting point is 00:13:06 which he got his royal friends to open. Princess Diana and Prince Charles. And some of the patients, staff, visitors and volunteers within it. That's him cutting the ribbon. The authorities did nothing. Did you hear that list of the people that he was accused of assaulted?
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah. victims nurses staff volunteers and visitors is there anyone else in a goddamn hospital yeah you got them all I mean he's
Starting point is 00:13:31 everyone this guy and for decades they're like well he's our fucking meal ticket he's raising all the money for everything have that it jimmy this is before Pokemon
Starting point is 00:13:41 he needed something to collect let me tell you what this fucking ghoul was doing listen to this this is a list of just some of the offenses an 18 year old says Saville climbed through a window
Starting point is 00:13:50 to molester as she recovered from a skin graft. He sexually abused another woman in a wheelchair and inappropriately touched an eight-year-old boy under his bedsheets. He also was accused. Why is he climbing through window?
Starting point is 00:14:05 He probably has a key. They built him his own apartment at the hospital. Right. Where he was just living and he would get people to cover. He raped some woman who was a musician there. Now here's the numbers.
Starting point is 00:14:22 from the end of his stay with the hospital after all of a sudden done after his death and they did the investigation. The sexual abuse ranged from inappropriate touching to rape. Saville was an opportunistic predator who could also on occasions show a high degree of premeditation when planning attacks on his victims. In all, 63 people connected to Stoke Mandeville Hospital were abused by Saville. 63 people. Yeah, but some of them just wanted attention after the fact. because especially when they have that range of like four.
Starting point is 00:14:54 I can't believe you just said it. One knife point rape. And then other people just got fond of their ball got touched or something like that. It's like that's too much of a range. One trans woman accused him of fingering her. Okay. Will you want to explain how that works to me? Well, I mean, they made the hole.
Starting point is 00:15:11 They did make the hole. They stuck his fingers at it. That's post making the hole. Okay. Wait a minute. Time out. What do you mean? Can't you stick a favorite?
Starting point is 00:15:17 He's got an asshole. Couldn't you do that? Thank you, Eric. Thank you, Eric. Carl's like, wait, how? Well, I don't go around figuring out of trans women. I apologize. I need a diagram.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I need someone to put together a tutorial video for me. So this guy is a real creep. Now, he kind of fell out of the limelight because obviously he was like a 60s, 70s character. Now we're getting up to the 80s and the 90s. So he was just hanging out of this fucking hospital, fucking diddling people. for a really long time. And he was also accused of doing the same thing as he volunteered at a school for girls. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And he denied ever being at the school for girls. What age of these girls in the school? High school, junior high, young girls. So he's hanging out there. He liked the boys. He liked the girls. He liked the girl women. He apparently liked the trans people.
Starting point is 00:16:10 Like I said, Jim will fix them all. If your butt hole is tight, Jimmy will lucid it for you. He'll fix it. Yeah. It's one thing. He cannot be accused of being discriminatory. He's got it all covered He does
Starting point is 00:16:23 And I give him a lot of credit for that Now in 2006 He becomes They do the final episode Of Top of the Pops And they pull him out of the fucking thing And they have him come out And hey look
Starting point is 00:16:35 Jimmy Saville's back to host The last episode And then that's when All the allegations started coming out Was in 2006 Before he died Now They started putting out news articles
Starting point is 00:16:48 Linking him to the children's home that we just talked about with the girls. He denies having anything to do with it, says he's never been there, and then there's pictures of him surrounded by children at front of the place. All right, but there's a statute of limitations on these things, Vinny.
Starting point is 00:17:00 People's memories get foggy. So, I remember everything that happened to me in college. I'm not going to go around telling stories now. The police opened an investigation, and because exactly the reason you said, what proof do they have? It's so long ago. It's he said, all of them said.
Starting point is 00:17:16 It's one of those cases. So this guy, so this motherfucker, starts suing all the newspapers who are reporting it. Okay. Okay, which is the thing that happens. But he did have one guy get close to him. Did he get the great Michael Polpac to represent him? He said, yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 He did. He did. He said, Michael Polpock has the tape. No, no. Sue everyone. So he's suing everybody. And then he does an interview with a guy named Louis Thoreau. And this is the only time. This is video and the audio was altered just a little bit because I found
Starting point is 00:17:52 this on YouTube and the video of this is not really available. I'm going to show you the video and the audio so you know I'm not just making it up. This is him riding. Just the fact that you have to say that we might think you're making this up makes me think that you're making this up. All right, go ahead. But no, I don't give you no rope. I'm just going to plant that. I give you no rope. That seat for everyone
Starting point is 00:18:08 but he's making this up. No rope to hang me, motherfucker. Here's the video of Louis Thoreau in the back of a van with Jimmy Saville discussing the allegations against him. We were nearing the end of our time together, and as we headed back to Leeds, it was clear that Jimmy was pleased
Starting point is 00:18:24 about the press coverage of his broken ankle, but struck me that his relationship with the press hasn't always been a happy one. So why do you say in interviews that you hate children when I've seen you with kids and you clearly enjoy their company and you have a good rapport with them?
Starting point is 00:18:41 Right. Obviously, I don't hate them. Yeah. So why would you say that then? Because we're living in a very funny world. Yeah, we do. And it's easy for me as a single man to say, I don't like children. Because that puts a lot of salacious tabloid people off the hunt. Are you basically saying that so tabloids don't, you know, pursue this whole,
Starting point is 00:19:09 isn't he a paedophile line basically? Yes. All right. How do they know? whether I am or not. How does anybody know whether I am? Nobody knows whether I'm not. I know I'm not. So I can tell you from experience that the easy way of doing it when they say, oh, you're all them children, do you not fix it? And say, yeah, I hate them. Yeah. To me that sounds more sort of suspicious. Right. It seems so important. That's my policy. That's the way it goes.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Really? That's what I do. And it's where it's a dream. Has it worked? A dream. that that was his response oh oh oh well you know i'm kind of i think i'm becoming team jimmy on this one uh you know all he's all he's doing are all people have said is kind of what we talked about it's all he said she said you got video of him with gary glitter but outside of that i mean he fucking said he hates kids yeah so i don't you my association is what we're talking about with uh vini's argument here huh he obviously hates kids Well, in 2013 after he dies, Scotland Yard came out after doing a very thorough investigation and labeled him a prolific predatory sex offender.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And at that time, the investigation revealed 214 criminal offenses that he could have been prosecuted for had he not died. How convenient it comes out after he can't defend himself. Between 1955 and 2000 and died. giving victims, 73% of the victims were children. 73% were kids. And the abuse happened at the BBC, inside of hospitals, hotels, wherever this fucking super rich, fucking famous guy went. If Dick Clark was doing this, we wouldn't have known about it until now.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Listen. In America, we wouldn't have known about it. I want to just defend this guy for a second. Oh, Jesus. He's climbing through windows to the less bird victims. What are you doing? I heard the great governor of New York, Andrew Cuomo, explained this, that he's very touchy-feely, it's part of his culture, and he doesn't mean any harm by it.
Starting point is 00:21:18 If a finger slips into a new hole that's just been created for someone after a sex change operation, that kind of thing happens when you're just a loving person. Well, the BBC tried to cover all this up, and they got caught red-handed, by the way. When he died, Carl, B fucking loved. He was laid in state, Carl. Yeah, he's a celebrity. Here's a picture. We worship celebrities.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Of his golden coffin. In that little tray between those two books, you can't see it from that angle, is the last cigar he smoked. And then a bunch of people who are jealous that people love him have to go out and make up things about him touching him and climbing through windows. Yeah. Just bersch his good name. Pictures or it didn't happen. All I know is you've got a lot of loudmouth asshole kids. Yep.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Yep, exactly. It's probably a Facebook. group is probably what all this is. Oh, I want to be part of that group. The BBC had investigated him and there was a reason why they didn't have him around for a very, very long time. Because some of these things happened on BBC premises,
Starting point is 00:22:21 the investigation that was done by news people inside of the BBC was shut down by the company said, don't do anything about it. I don't know if you know much about British TV, but there's another channel called ITV, which is like the big rival to BBC. They were like, oh, fuck this.
Starting point is 00:22:36 We got all the dirt on them. And they aired. a no-holds bar documentary about him. Okay. That also helped open up the flood gates. They hired private investigators who went out and got all this information. Then the cops went in and followed it all back up. And they're like, well, I'll be damned.
Starting point is 00:22:51 He was fucking diddling kids. What a great news of every time. It sounded like you almost said, it's sound like you almost said flood dick there for a second. Caught it. Why don't you mind your business? Mind your business. So yeah, that's my creep this week. All right.
Starting point is 00:23:05 And I'm just going to go ahead. remind everybody he's also responsible for the shitty song you can't spell savel without vile oh wow by the way i just want to go on record i'm sorry car what you said to vote for bitty i want to go on record and say that that song's pretty catchy i i dig it oh it's going in the pre-song playlist it's going in all right well uh great presentation there vennie as always you do such a magical job with the way you tell stories. I love it if a bus hit you today. I want everyone to now wake up, and we're going to do another one.
Starting point is 00:23:45 I'll let our guest decide who goes next. Oh, Carl, go ahead. All right. I will go next then. Creepiest radio personality. I chose someone who asks people. Are you a boner guy? I knew it.
Starting point is 00:23:59 It says things like, And then let the boners begin. Oh, yeah. Jimmy Saddle said that too. No, I didn't pick. Opie. Of course, there was a man who worked for the Howard Stern Show for 15 years who had a speech impediment. That's right. I chose speech impediment man. No. My creep is a guy who worked out in New Orleans as a sportscaster named Vince Marinello.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Hello, you know, everybody. I'm Vince Maranella and welcome to six sports extra. Here's a guy that had lived a charmed life. He was the guy that was able to go into places and everybody wanted to shake his hand. He fed off of the public recognizing him and knowing who he was. He had a personality as big as the city and an ego too because he liked to tell everybody
Starting point is 00:24:49 he was Vince Maronella. Yeah, you know, I think Eric Zane might know about this too. These radio guys love being the celebrity around town. Can I imagine what this guy looked like? Well, he looked like a normal guy. Oh, okay. I was just imagining like a little
Starting point is 00:25:02 meatball of a man. Not so much. Okay. Well, uh, in this town, Being a celebrity is like being a king. And in the 1990s, there was no New Orleans celebrity who enjoyed being famous, and the perks that came with it, more than sports reporter Vince Marinello. Well, football, simply put, is a matter of execution. Vince Marinello was very high profile.
Starting point is 00:25:28 If you grew up here in New Orleans, you saw Vince reporting on almost all the major sporting events in the city. Archie Manning's a piece of shit. Yeah, so the local celebrity aspect of this gets some people into a bind because they get a big ego. You've probably been around this a lot, Eric Zane. Yeah, oh, absolutely. I would say that pretty much everybody in radio has that type of trade. But I got to stop down here. Did you miss the directions when it said radio personality?
Starting point is 00:26:01 Oh, thank you. Thank you very much because this clip talks about how he should. shifted to your radio. After Vince left TV, he got into WWL radio in the mornings with the real Robert Mitchell. And he was there every morning and then for years and then Katrina hit. All right. So he was doing radio when Katrina hit. And then he transitioned from more than just a sports reporter.
Starting point is 00:26:25 He was the leading media personality covering aspects of the recovery from the devastation following the hurricane. on August 31st, 2006, Marinello's estranged wife, Mary Elizabeth, was shot twice in the face in the parking lot of an office tower. Oh, boy. In the Terry, Louisiana. Jefferson Parish, Sheriff's authorities initially announced their belief that the murder was a result of a botched robbery.
Starting point is 00:26:53 Marinello voluntarily met with the sheriff's investigators and denied any connection to the murder of his estranged wife, saying he was in Jackson, Mrs. Sippy. He had an alibi. We're going to Jackson. On September 7th, he voluntarily turned himself into the sheriff's department. He was subsequently arrested and charged with second-degree murder in the killing of his wife, who filed for a contentious divorce after she discovered he was not legally divorced when they wed,
Starting point is 00:27:18 and despite being a local celebrity, was totally broke. Oh, so he's a polygamist? His crime here is getting pussy? So the problem is... Carl, is that this problem? He was trying to be a big shot, and he wanted everyone to know what a big shot he was, But guess what the problem is with that is when you work in radio in the 2000s, you don't get a paycheck that goes along with that to be able to live that type of life.
Starting point is 00:27:40 Who does he think he is, brother wheeze? Exactly. He's looking for free meals everywhere he goes. Who does he think he is, brother wheeze? This is the actual 911 call. Number one now. Man, this lady's lying here. He's bleeding from her head.
Starting point is 00:27:54 It looks like she's been shot on the side of her head. He was convicted of the murder of his wife. and he denied that to the day he died this is him speaking with a television station there explaining that they botched the court case. His attorneys messed
Starting point is 00:28:11 up. They was supposed to find me innocent. You're right. Yes. They didn't have like an image expert talking about the images that they were looking at. If I had that image expert to testify for me on my behalf that that wasn't me in the parking line. If I had the ballistics test,
Starting point is 00:28:29 made that far from and messed up. And if I had the test run from the scene to fluke showing it's impossible to get there from 410 to 516, I'd have walked out the court of free man and we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Vince Marinello maintains he is innocent, despite a jury finding the circumstantial evidence against him overwhelming. So this is interesting. Circumstantial evidence, he claims he's innocent, he claims he has an alibi, he blames his attorneys. Marinello blames his lawyers for not punching holes in the prosecution's case in three major areas. For example, these pictures are the killer in the parking lot on Metry Road,
Starting point is 00:29:07 and Marinello in the lobby of the DA's office were used by prosecutors to convince the jury they were the same man, Vince Marinello. Prosecutors used the pictures, but no expert to testify they were the same man. That was all the more reason why we should have had an image expert. Somebody to get up there and say, there's no doubt my mind. That that's not bench now or no. Or at worst, at worst, say, well, I can't say it is, but I can't say it isn't. I mean, either way, I'm going to come out of winning with the jury.
Starting point is 00:29:43 They should have got an expert to just tell his side of the story. I don't know why they didn't do that. If I wasn't broke his shit and speaking with this humdrum style, I could have afforded all of this shit to prove my innocence. Right. This guy's doing like a fucking foghorn leg. He's very bitter about this. I imagine he's dressed like Batlock. Yes.
Starting point is 00:30:04 He's white suit. They didn't even have a ballistics expert to help prove that he was innocent. Second is the gunpowder residue found in Marinello's car. Prosecutors use it to effectively paint a picture of Marinello as the gunman. But Marinello
Starting point is 00:30:19 says the gunpowder was not from the 38 used to murder his wife, but from test firing a 9mm pistol he had bought for self-protection. They had a bumer, he's the expert. to say that, hey, the gunpowder in his car was a result of Vince testifying his 9mm in the back of the trailer and getting in his car. It would have given the jury an alternative reason to believe, well, the gunpowder in the car comes from him testifying his 9 millimeter. Without that ballistic test, you know, the implication was, well, he shot his wife, and that's where the gunpowder came from.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Carl, you've convinced me. Innocent. Right. Innocent. Test firing is 9mm. All right, Eric, are you ready to do us? He didn't bring in a Blyssics expert. Everything this guy said is very plausible to me.
Starting point is 00:31:07 I, yeah, Carl, you have done a great job telling us exactly how this guy did not do this. Yeah, he's not a creep at all. In fact, he's got an Ironclad alibi. What's his name again? His name is Vince Marinello. Okay, good. I'm going to write a letter to the DA right now. I'm starting it while you're talking.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Okay. All right, listen to his alibi. Liz Marinello was killed about 4.10 p.m. on a busy holiday weekend. Sixty-six minutes later, prosecutors say a cell phone tower detected Vince Marinello's phone at Fluca, Louisiana, 80 miles away from the scene of the crime. Marinello claims that proves he is innocent. I tell people that it is impossible to be at the scene of the crime at 410 and be in Fluker, Louisiana at 516. That's what I tell them. According to Marinello, he left his Lakeview home at 3.30 and drove the speed limit to
Starting point is 00:31:58 Luker. That would have placed him there about 516. Right. So he's saying it's 80 miles away an hour and six minutes later where he was pinged. So there's no way that he could have been at the crime scene. And then he takes the reason why he gave this interview is because he wanted to prove his innocence. And he makes these people drive that route, the speed limit, to see if they can get there in the amount of time that he says he got there. As a condition of doing this interview, he asked, we drive from Metri Road to Fluke, leaving at 410 and driving the speed limit. All right, the clock says 410, so we're going to head out. Our route took us down Metery Road in heavy traffic, to airline highway, then to I-10 via the airport, and on to
Starting point is 00:32:43 Interstate 55. The entire route, we drove the speed limit. Can it be done in 66 minutes? All right, we're approaching the Flukra exit here in Tangipa Ho, Parish. It's 555, and it took us an hour and 45 minutes to get from 401 Metery Road to the fluke exit here in Tangible Hope Parish. I think they could have done that without actually driving it. Yeah, why did they do that? I mean,
Starting point is 00:33:09 simple math. Simple math could have told you that yeah, I get it. It was the condition. It was a condition of getting him to talk to them. Right. So he thinks that proves his innocence. Right. But the question is
Starting point is 00:33:23 how do we know you drove the speed limit? because he's going, I drove the speed limit. And so that proves I couldn't have been at the crime scene. So now he offers proof that he drove the speed limit. Driving the speed limit, it is impossible to get the fluker in 66 minutes. But who besides Marinello can say he drove the speed limit? Absolutely. Absolutely. First of all, as I told you, in the state of Louisiana, I had two outstanding traffic
Starting point is 00:33:50 warrant out for me because it failed you to pay speeding tickets. I hadn't quite taken care of them yet. One was in Jefferson Towers. One was in East Baton Rouge Packers. So whenever I was driving in the state of Louisiana, I always drove either the speed limit or a mile under it so not to attract any traffic problems. There's proof.
Starting point is 00:34:11 He's gotten so many speeding tickets. He has to drive the speed limit. Why would an experienced speeder be speeded? Right. So I think that kind of makes it seem like, yeah, I mean, I got to believe this guy. He loves speeding, but he would never do that in these counties. especially after murdering his wife. There's no way he would want to do that.
Starting point is 00:34:31 So let's figure out, guys, because from everything that I'm hearing, I don't know why the jury found him guilty of this, right? They don't have any proof. In 2008, he was convicted and sentenced to life in prison for killing his estranged wife, Liz, in an old, a metery parking lot. The prosecutor said he wore disguise and waited for her as she left a therapy session. They used cell phone records to show he drove to Mississippi after that murder and said he left a checklist he made before the killing.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Marinello has always maintained his innocence. Oh, okay. So this is the problem with the defense here. He left a checklist. Surveillance video around the scene of the crime recorded a figure matching the description of a suspicious person seemed leaving the scene on a bicycle. The surveillance video showed a 15-minute sequence
Starting point is 00:35:16 of images of a man fitting the description of the disguised Marinello, pacing back and forth in the parking lot. The suspicious person was described is a scruffy-looking white male with a beard and dark complexion and was reportedly seen loading a bicycle into a white torus matching the description of a vehicle scene leaving the crime scene. The white torus was later found outside of Maranello's residence.
Starting point is 00:35:36 The key piece of evidence leading to charges was a sheet of paper with notes and a diagram found in Marinello's FEMA trailer during the execution of a search warrant several days after the crime. This was characterized as a to-do list for the murder and its aftermars. and contained written notes about a gun and its disposal, a bike, and a disguise. It was determined that Marinello recently purchased the disguise.
Starting point is 00:36:02 It was for a murder surprise party, officer. Then they found that he purchased the disguise, had purchased bullets for a 38 caliber gun, and the nylon-coated bullets purchased by Marinello were unusual and were the same kind that's found inside Liz's body. You'd think you could get away with that? Without having legal ramifications? You're out of your fucking mind.
Starting point is 00:36:25 So the guy wrote down everything that he was going to do and then left it in his trailer only to be found when they executed the search warrant. Now, the kicker is this report where he went on afterwards to prove that he was innocent. This is so dumb. He's like, you can't drive. You can't drive that far. There's no way. And then they go, yeah, but hold on a second. Weren't you found in Mississippi?
Starting point is 00:36:46 Because his alibi was going to be, he was watching football with friends in Mississippi. And they're like, yeah, weren't you in Mississippi? like just right after that, and he says this. But if Marinello was in Fluker at 516, how does he explain getting to Byron, Mississippi, 99 miles away, by 615? Once I cross the state line into Mississippi, yeah, I open that baby up 90, 95 miles an hour. So now they know that he was in Mississippi an hour later, 99 miles away.
Starting point is 00:37:16 He's like, well, yeah, I was traveling like a maniac after that, of course. Oh, my God. I put in a Tom Petty. is running down a dream and I put the pedal to the metal. And out of your damn ride, I hit the gas. That's what you do on the open road. So Vince Marinello is a dummy, which is not a shocker because he was a media personality. And I believe that he was a creep who murdered his wife.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Okay. That's my presentation for it today. Okay. Now, how many 10-year-old boys did he deal in a hotel? Well, I mean, this guy was actually convicted of a crime where there was a, a victim. I didn't mention that they had to actually rip out his tombstone because people were defacing it and it was becoming a problem at the cemetery.
Starting point is 00:37:59 Well, those people are creeps then. And I also forgot to mention that Steve Coogan will be playing him in the biopic coming out soon. We look forward to that. Okay, okay, a film. It ought to be great. Sounds like a lawsuit. Yeah, does his family get any say in the direction of this film?
Starting point is 00:38:15 How is this going to work? It's to be a wonderful remembering. Okay. All right, with that, Eric Zane. take it away, my friend. Okay, gentlemen. The first instance of of creepiness
Starting point is 00:38:29 comes at about a time. 2011, I remember getting like I said, these are personal stories, getting word that the show that I was on, it was on a syndicated radio show at the time called the Free Verre and Hot Wing show. And, you know, we were always trying to get on new stations. And then
Starting point is 00:38:45 from time to time, that would pay off. And we got word that the show was going to be heard on a station out of Youngstown, Ohio called Y-103. And we looked it up, we see a little bit of background. We see, oh, wow, this looks like it's a pretty good thing. Anytime we can get a new radio station, we're always stoked about that. Okay.
Starting point is 00:39:07 So then a little bit of news comes out and says, hey, and you're going to be replacing a guy who is in some big trouble. And what had happened was, this is the story of longtime Y-103. morning guy, Scott Kennedy. We don't know what the hell's going on, but what had happened was one particular day prior to us being told we were going to be put on Y-103, Scott walked into his boss's office, a guy by the name of Rick Parrish, and Rick says, hey, Scott, how are you? And he goes, yeah, I'm going to need some time off.
Starting point is 00:39:42 And this is a true story because this is exactly how it was told to me. Everything that you're hearing is a firsthand account. Okay. Okay. And Scott sits down. This would be a secondhand account. This is what I was told to me. A first hand account.
Starting point is 00:39:56 Thank you. I'm not the creep. Second hand account. sits down. He says, yeah, boss, we need some time off.
Starting point is 00:40:01 And he goes, okay, well, no problem. You've got it banked up. What's going on? You're just taking a vacation. He says,
Starting point is 00:40:07 well, I'm going to be leaving, but it's not a vacation. You see, I'm going to be arrested. It was a federal, a federal indictment is coming down on me. And I was informed of it.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And I have to turn my, self in. Turns out that there was a sting operation trying to catch people who had a child pornography were involved in this big child pornography ring. They were sending you through messages and bottles.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Sting joke. Come on. Come on. He was involved in this. And he, so they pulled him off of the air and sure enough an entire investigation. And he ends up pleading guilty to this. Which was probably the best thing he had done.
Starting point is 00:40:51 They've ended up finding like 300 plus images on his device, including there was actually a local angle to it where there was actually local people being horrible things taking place and videos and things like that happening that he had access to. And this one person in particular who was involved in this actually sued him for millions of dollars for the exploitation. Who sues a radio guy for me? millions of dollars. Yeah, I know. It turns out that the person who was suing the young person and her family ended up only getting like $3,500, which is kind of gross. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:29 But he was sentenced to 51 months in prison. He's long since out. But what was also interesting is when we started on the radio there. I have a question for you. I'm sorry to interrupt your flow. No, it's right. Had he accrued 51 months in vacation time. Did that work out for the station?
Starting point is 00:41:47 I don't think so. I don't think so. okay bummer here's the thing we um when we start women get maternity leave and shit this more guy can't get i would have had an argument or two seriously it's a double standard you don't get penal leave Scott Kennedy he had a large group of people who loved him very much including the people that work for him and here's how I know that um when we started on there we did a road trip from Michigan to Youngstown to kind of like you know meet the staff hello and it wasn't long before we got an idea that they were not
Starting point is 00:42:20 thrilled with us being on the radio station. Now, I don't know if this was a little bit of, you know, a lot of times when you replace somebody who's been around for a long time, you don't want to be the person to replace who replaces the guy. You want to be the second person. Unless it's Kimberly and Beck, then you're fine.
Starting point is 00:42:36 You're welcome to as a hero. What Eric Zane is saying is you don't want to be David Lee Roth. You want to be Opie and Anthony. Yes. You need that buffer in between. Yeah. Thank you. What I was struggling to say, that is exactly what the case And this was never more evident than in this case right here because everybody seemed to be really cold towards us as we, as we entered the radio station. In their defense, they probably listened to your show a couple times.
Starting point is 00:43:00 That's true. Maybe that had something to do with it. But then the one thing that led me to believe that this was absolutely, they love this guy, is when they're talking about the incident, the actual words instead of like, I mean, if I raped a kid, you would say, yeah, Eric Zaney, raped the kid. did. Okay, that's what happened. Could you isolate that? Oh, I got it. Don't worry. That's going on the boy. Fuck, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:27 Eric Zedrich. Shit. When we're sitting there having a conversation with these people, occasionally would come up in this one salesperson in particular, she goes, yeah, ever since what happened to Scott. Oh, weird. And we're like, well, wait a minute. Nothing happened to Scott. Scott, uh, fucking downloaded child porno onto his computer. computer and got busted for it. Nothing happened.
Starting point is 00:43:50 From a Fed. The Scott. Right. Yes. So that gave you an idea of how that all turned out. So he ended up getting 51 months behind bars for that. That is my one of two personal experiences with someone very, very creepy in radio. But he must have been a great guy if people were defending him who worked with them for doing something that terrible because I would disavow. Double life. Double life. You would think they'd be like, oh, thank God, we got rid of that guy. But he obviously, I mean, you hear about a lot of radio people who do crazy shit. And then they wind up back on the radio.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Who was the guy in New York, the carton, the fucking degenerate gambler involved in all sorts of shit. As soon as it gets out of jail, he's back on the radio. So this happens from time to time. As long as you can get people to listen to you, they don't give a shit. I don't think he had that, but that might have been an example.
Starting point is 00:44:38 I have a different theory about radio in general is that they just don't give a shit about anything. It's possible. Because I've heard the product. See, I have. a very different approach to co-workers. I assume that Vinny is up to no good. And so as soon as this information comes out,
Starting point is 00:44:55 I'd be like, see, that's why I was always such a dick to him. Because I knew he was a problem. The show was called The Creepoff. It was advertised. Yes. I was trying to get the story out there for everyone to focus the microscope on him. Hey, hey, funny guy. I just mailed the FBI one of your Zoom players.
Starting point is 00:45:11 Oh! So I'll never let you borrow one of those again. All right. Okay. Now, the other story that I have, guys, I kind of, I have to couch it to some degree. And Carl is somewhat aware of this. But I need to explain that this is so much more intricate in terms of the personal experience. That is what happened here in this entry into the creepoff.
Starting point is 00:45:33 I had just gotten back onto the radio after leaving the Free Bear and Hawing show, I got fired. And I was like, okay, I can't wait to get back on the radio. It was only two months I was off. And I handpicked a sidekick. and let's just call him Lyle Okay, for the sake of the show This is Lyle I'm telling you about right now
Starting point is 00:45:52 Yeah, he may or may not be a podcast host Correct, yeah Well, you never know I mean, who doesn't podcast? Everybody podcasts these days. Sure, Carl, is this guy a podcaster that I know who he is? Well, I've reviewed about who are these podcasts,
Starting point is 00:46:06 but that's all I can say. Lyle. Okay, so now I sit down and I got this plan we're going to, oh, we're going to take the radio world by Storm and this guy is super he's not afraid to jump into the conversation you know he'll just blurt anything out at a moment's notice
Starting point is 00:46:23 just like Vinny you know interrupt the hell out of you and shit like that you thought you were going to take the radio world by storm by getting a guy like Vinny as your co-hosts that was a joke god damn it got roll with it I know that was my joke back you know you're not going to make any friends around here
Starting point is 00:46:39 taking shots of me I'm the likeable one on the show that said something yes that's true, sir. I finish up my sixth show with Lyle. Okay. And then I get a message. I was still, okay, we're kind of like finishing up the show and Lyle steps out.
Starting point is 00:46:57 And there's not much time left in it. And I look at my phone. I've got a note from someone on Messenger. And I open it up and it's some whistleblower. It turns out this is a whistleblower. First, I thought it was a crazy person. Yeah, Tattletale is like, yeah, Lyle is a problem. Lyle is, he is a convicted sex offender, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, and produces like an image from kind of like a sketchy website, but it was definitely him.
Starting point is 00:47:27 It was a picture of him and Jimmy Saddle together. Oh, maybe. Stop it with this, Jimmy Saddle. And it shows the offenses and I'm very concerned about this. And I'm like, huh. So I go in, the guy's in the other room. I go and I go, hey, dude, can you help me here? What is this?
Starting point is 00:47:43 And I show it to the guy. yeah face turns white and and he is he's shocked and uh he basically comes clean and he says well when i was under the age of 18 i was accused of and i pled guilty to a horrible thing with my next door neighbor but i didn't do it i didn't do it i didn't do anything i had a bad lawyer he's giving me giving me all these blah blah blah blah blah i had him drive to new Orleans. And I'm sitting there like, what the fuck just happened? I'm six shows into a brand new show. And I'm thinking, oh my God, this is all terrible. And so, and then he gives me a few more details. And I'm like, well, how come no one knows about this? And he makes a case that because he was a
Starting point is 00:48:33 minor, they ended up, they didn't expunge it, but they wiped it so that he doesn't show up on a search, but he still has to inform the official. of when he moves and shit like that. He's basically still a sex offender, but you can't, like, hunt him down. And there's actually a term for it. It's called adjudicated. There's a term for it. It's called,
Starting point is 00:48:56 Be no, fat chicken. Carl, I'm way ahead of you because that's the next part of the story. I go, I said to the dude, I go, you stay there. I'll be right back. I do what I'm supposed to do. I immediately go to my general manager, and I explain to him, all of everything I just explained to you.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And he's like, what? And first thing he does is he yells to HR. He goes, get me the opposite. application. I'm not kidding you. He screamed it out. Bring me Lyle's application. You get the application because if he said yes, because they ask you, have you been convicted of a felony? Okay. He wrote, no. That's the background check. No. I'm not. I'm not done. Did you graduate college with all A's? Yes. Of course I did. To me, it's like, it's the same equivalent of why the fuck would they even bother ask you to swear out of Bible?
Starting point is 00:49:37 People are just going to lie. Well, he did lie and that was a good thing. But you, it wouldn't have shown up on a background check. was the safety valve that that judge put in place for him. It's like, it's like having the best of both worlds. Put in your dick in a child and not and not having anyone know about it.
Starting point is 00:49:57 And raping children. Best of both worlds. All right. So that's what. Okay. So he immediately, this was a quick process. He never saw the inside of the radio station ever again. He was, he was asked to resign. He resigned immediately. Now, did he disclose this to Steve? I don't know who Steve is. I don't know
Starting point is 00:50:21 who that is. Okay. I don't know if he disclosed that to Steve. I have no idea. That's a great question. I've often wondered that, has he? I am guessing he's denied everything. That's what I guess. It's interesting that a judge would say, if someone is a danger to society that a judge would be like, we're just going to cover it up because he was a kid. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. This is all what he has said that he says he's maintained. And I said, well, then why did you plead guilty if you didn't?
Starting point is 00:50:51 Oh, no, it was a bad lawyer. That was the excuse. Is that a bad lawyer? We've had so many people that we've talked about on this show where this almost this exact same thing has happened where they did a whole bunch of real heinous shit before they were like over the age of 18. And it got covered up and they were able to go out into the world and fucking start problems. And it always blows my mind that judges have. the ability to do this. I think that there should be some type of consequences. Like,
Starting point is 00:51:18 if a judge has a really bad batting average on this, there should be some type of ramification to the judge. And I've had people say, you know, you're not doing a very good job of couching who this is. Anybody who knows anything about you knows exactly who that is. And I'm like, yeah, all they have to do is go listen to WATP episode 268.
Starting point is 00:51:37 And here's the thing. Here's the thing. If this guy, if he ever said, hey, Eric Zane, I'm soon as like, well, all right, motherfucker, put your hand on the Bible then and you're going to have to reveal everything that I've already said so you're fucked either way. So I don't give a fuck what you do. Right. Well, this has been a fun episode. I like that Eric Zane brought two creeps just to out his ex-co worker. Now listen, Eric, I'm going to do something for you. I've never done for another guest. And Carl, I think you're really going to enjoy this idea. What we're going to do is we're going to have the ability to vote for
Starting point is 00:52:08 either one of Zane's creeps. Oh, you're going to split it. Yes, perfect. Yes, you can vote for Either one of Eric's creeps if you choose to the creepoff.com this week. That's smart, Vinny. And I don't say that very often. You might want to ISO that too. Oh, he's just dead. I got it. Well, can I combine my creep points then?
Starting point is 00:52:26 No. Why not? No. You brought two creeps. It's on you. We got four creeps this week. Four creeps to choose from ladies and gentlemen. You know what?
Starting point is 00:52:34 I'll add it up in my own brain. That's a moral victory. I would end up beating the shit out of both you fucking morons. Oh, congratulations all your moral victories over there. Don't forget to vote at the creepoff. this week for any one of Eric's creeps and particularly Jimmy Savo and Carl's guy was just stupid. He was stupid.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I know. Maintain his innocence until he died. At the age of 82 of natural causes, just last year, February 2020 is when Vince finally kicked the bucket. He died of boredom of constantly explaining himself to everyone. Yeah, then he wasn't a ballistics expert. We know. You've told us this, Vince.
Starting point is 00:53:08 We get it. Oh, every time you went. How could I have been there? It's an hour and a half later. Are you guys ready for some voicemails? I am. I got a message from our good friends, our sponsor, the city of Syracuse. The creepoff voicemail segment is brought to you by the city of Syracuse.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Our upcoming EDM festival is expecting 10,000 visitors. It is said to be the country's largest gathering of that weird guy from work. See you in Syracuse. It's more goofy on EDM than Syracuse. Are we going to have to have a conversation with the Bride suit? That's fine. I'll go along with that This one came in from PLB
Starting point is 00:53:45 Hi Carl, this is Brian Laundry This is how I talk Thanks again for letting me stay in your basement I really appreciate it You're such a good friend Just to let you know I won't be back till late tonight I've arranged to meet a Tinder date
Starting point is 00:53:58 On the edge of a very precarious cliff But save me a white claw for after okay Love you, bye Let me too Brian That was nice Brian gets around You never know where he's going to be next All right
Starting point is 00:54:10 You know what I'm going to get a phone government dog the bounty hunter now and i do not appreciate that oh my god dog uh this one is about the possibility of you and i having to do a tandem consequence if we lose eric zane today right next week when everybody votes for eric zane and you guys both lose honestly i don't know why we're discussing any consequence other than you to 690 this measure should pass no problem notice you're so fucking fat that you can't even say the TW sound like 20 instead of 20 you say 20 and 12 you say 12 why is that is it genuinely because you're so fat or my own personal speculation off on that please provide some comment thank you comment I got a comment go fuck yourself that's my comment oh yeah yeah but can we hear you say those words I don't think he wants to 20 12, 20, 12, 2012.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Sounds fine. Sounds fine. Don't worry about that shit. You're going, 20. Like, just drooling on myself. What the fuck you people? All right, more people discussing consequence possibilities. Yeah, I was thinking about the 69 consequence that you're going to have to do next week.
Starting point is 00:55:30 And I realize you probably don't want to stick with your team spinning the wheel. So, you know, you can have some things on there like, you know, one spot could be Carl licks the buttonhole. One spot could be Vinny. looks at the butthole or also thought like you know eric zane's going to win for sure and but if vinny gets more votes maybe he's on top and if carl gets more votes maybe he's on top um a lot of options here i don't think it's just a one and done you know do it video it and everybody likes it you know you can have a little bit of fun with it that nothing about that sounds fun the only 69 minnie's ever been a part of is beef with broccoli from chend garden it's a number eight you
Starting point is 00:56:12 idiot. Now, folks, Carl and I will not be 60-90 if we lose to Eric's aid. Sorry to ruin it for you. It ain't going to happen. But I do like part of that idea there. If we have to do... Okay, which part? Was it the butthole looking part? Which part of that?
Starting point is 00:56:27 No, I think the part about you licking my butt hole. But no, what I like is the idea that if we put different spots on the wheel where there's just a consequence that specifically goes to one of us. It's like one of us gets a ticket out if the other one lands on it. Okay. So that means there's a chance that one of us might not have to do something
Starting point is 00:56:46 horrific. We don't even have to talk about it because I have a feeling I'm going to win this week. So it'll be fine. Uh, bullshit. Everybody forgot both of yours. I got a voicemail here. Hey, Carl, this is with a creep off. I'm wondering, how long do we have to be a patron to you guys to get a pair of Vinny's underwear? Preferably with skid marks and possibly blood. I want to mount that on my wall. All right. Bye. I love you. Vinny. Winnie Dickie. Do you send out used underwear to Listeners, I can't remember your policy of that. Only if they specifically say, please don't. That's what I said, though.
Starting point is 00:57:16 All right. I got one more here. I don't know if I'm insulted by this or not. Hey, Vinny Winnie People's Champ. I just want to say, you kind of look like if Drew Carey ate James Corden, which I don't know how to feel about that. Also, I just want to say, Carl, the bills are gay and the Beatles are still gay. All right, bye.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Possibly pitophiles. I used to hang out with Jimmy Saville. When we were sitting outside during a downpour in. in Chicago, the south side of Chicago, and we found a little area with an umbrella, and it was me and Dick Masterson, my wife, and Vinny, and a guy comes underneath for shelter, and he goes, hey, he thought you were James Gordon? Yeah, he leans down, he goes, hey. Hey, are you that, are you that famous comedian?
Starting point is 00:57:59 And Dick goes, sir, what did you say? The famous comedian, he goes, no, it's not. I looked at him, but I said, sir, I'd really appreciate it if you just keep it low key, if that's all right. And he goes, turns around, and he's like, okay. I love that Dick put you at your place immediately. Yeah, Dick and I were texting yesterday. Made me laugh quite a bit. Keep an eye
Starting point is 00:58:18 out to the Patreon. There might be a fun new bonus episode this week that Carl's not included on because he's mean. That I should be included. That's the whole point of me. All right, I got one more voicemail here. Hey Carl, it's your old pal, Dr. Steve. I'm leaving this on the AWATP hotline, but this is for the creep off. dude you may not want to play this I know your last name
Starting point is 00:58:44 if you and I had been in kindergarten together knowing your last name you would have been Carl Hamburger the first day so there's no way that this was invented once you got on radio
Starting point is 00:59:00 I have to believe you can call this your whole life anyway have a great day and listen to weird serious sense. Dr. Steve, I can explain this for Carl. You're talking all over his plug.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I know. I did it on purpose because he called it here. Just called me a liar. But here's the deal, Dr. Steve. The reason why this happened is because of Carl's club feed, he was homeschooled until he was old enough to be able to walk for himself and his sister didn't have to carry him everywhere to pooh-boose. That's why. All right, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:59:32 Yeah, I guess the point that he's trying to make is that no one should be trying to take credit for naming me Carl Hamburger. It's not that impressive. You could listen to Weird Medicine on Sirius XM or wherever podcasts are sold. Channel 103. Okay. All right. I was the last.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Oh, I got one more voice. Oh, you do. Okay. All right. All right. So I don't like the guy that's coming at you, Vinny, who's talking about Carlos Hansom. I'm one-quarter Italian, so I'm not as Italian as you, but I know I'm fat just like you, Vinny. That's my man.
Starting point is 01:00:07 You may be like three of me But, you know Still, I would like to come at you and say You know, I think the wheel of consequences Should be Vinnie gets a pieceer Yeah Vinny gets some wings Yeah
Starting point is 01:00:19 Vinny gets to watch TV all night Yeah That should be on your handsome sexy Sicilian Italian Wheel of Consequences And Carl should be like I don't know You get to stick a fish hook in his mouth
Starting point is 01:00:34 Or something like that You look like a fucking a weird guy. I don't like him. I don't like his club feet. You should, you like you guys. Did you bind him? Fucking Asian guy.
Starting point is 01:00:45 Whatever. I'm done. Okay. That ended not strong. But I do like his ideas. I like how he, I like he really went hard with he looks like a weird guy. I like that.
Starting point is 01:00:57 He goes, hey, look at me. I'm a quarter Italian over here. This is how it's a quarter Italian people talk. Oh. Can you imagine if he was. sorry if it was full Italian no shit you wouldn't understand a word
Starting point is 01:01:11 it'd be a fucking talking pizza by the way pizza the hut I don't know if people know this but Vinnie almost got that in the audition they're like good we don't want to do makeup this guy might be right for this part I was going to sue them because it was a little too close to my character Vinnie Pizza Piolino
Starting point is 01:01:28 and I just don't I just don't I think they were approaching my trademarks all right that's enough spaceball's reference I guess for one day. Oh, right, kids. Let's do a scum parade. Carl hit the music. Watch out for the scum parade.
Starting point is 01:01:42 Oh, no, it's a scum parade. Oh, no, it's a scum parade. Oh, God for the scum parade. Making Vinny's day. It's day. Oh. Fuck yeah. Now, Maine.
Starting point is 01:02:05 A woman was so desperate to spend time with her boyfriend that she made bomb threats at his workplace so he could get the day off. Interesting. The relationship sounds explosive. Oh, fuck you. Oh, God damn it. Caleb Blake 33 was arrested out of felony terrorizing charge after police tracked down the caller and learned she never had any bombs. They're like, you called in a bomb thought she didn't even have any bombs. Well, yeah, I mean, that's the good news I would think.
Starting point is 01:02:35 Like they seemed upset that she didn't have a bob the way they phrased this in the article. That's the good news. She didn't really have a bob. The cops like she'd have a bob or nothing. She wasn't planning on killing any of the 400 people who work at that plant. What's her problem? The women's bizarre attempt to get her boyfriend out of work happened Thursday in the city of Pittsfield. The suspect is accused of calling state police two separate times that day,
Starting point is 01:02:56 claiming she was going to bomb Puritan medical products, the medical manufacturing where her boyfriend works. The threats forced the company to evacuate the facility and shut down operations for the day. A move that affected, like you said, Carl, 400 people. This woman sucks, all right? The conversation that morning, I know exactly what it was. Hun, can you call in sick? What are you calling sick? I spend the day together.
Starting point is 01:03:16 And he's like, listen, I just, I got to go to work, okay? Yes, I do have sick time, but I need to go to work. This is what I do. No, calling sick. Stay with me. And also, the bomb threat thing, very short-term solution for this. If you want to spend more time with your boyfriend, chop an arm off.
Starting point is 01:03:32 That's going to be a few months right there. Give him COVID. Get creative. do something that's going to get him out of work for longer than one day. Name the motherfucker if you want him around for. Right. Cobble him like Kathy Bates did in misery.
Starting point is 01:03:44 I'm guessing that this woman's never had a boyfriend before just because I saw the photo of her in this story. She doesn't really know how to act around that. This woman, I hate using this expression, but in this particular case, it's accurate. This lady looks like me. This lady looks like me. She's an ugly version of Vinny.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Yeah. It's pretty bad. That's the nicest thing you've ever said to me. I know. For there to be an ugly version of me. It makes me pretty all right. Pretty bad. She's being held out $500,
Starting point is 01:04:09 bail. This is a really silly thing. When I was in high school, I don't know if I ever told you this. There was a dude, like the week of final exams. I believe it was six or seven school days in a row called in a bomb threat successfully.
Starting point is 01:04:20 So every, like I think it was right before six period. Every day we all had to go stand out in the parking lot. The police were pissed off. The fire department was pissed off. The dogs don't like it because there's no action in there. Yeah. And then everybody,
Starting point is 01:04:32 because it was happening every day, they made us stay late. because of this kid. So by the time they did catch him, everyone was like super pissed off at him. And his whole thing was he wanted to be the hero, just like this lady. But you're not the hero when you call on a bomb threat, kids.
Starting point is 01:04:47 We had tons of bomb threats at my school too because those idiots would be like, oh, there's a bomb threat. We have to give everyone the whole day off. So that's how it started. Like if there's a bomb threat, everyone goes home for the day. Very bad decision because then they wise up. They're like, oh, no, actually what we're due
Starting point is 01:05:01 is we'll sniff out the gymnasium first. And if that's clear, every asshole has to go into the gymnasium until we sniff out the rest of the place. And then it turned into, like, what you said, Vinny, everyone just had to stay later. And the day just went as long as possible. Now, these motherfuckers, they got medical supplies that they got on, they have to pump out for the shipments. This just fucks everybody's life up. Because this bitch needs somebody to count on with. Yeah, she's the worst.
Starting point is 01:05:26 Yeah, here's a bomb threat for you. I'll be opening for Harlan Williams. Hey. Comedy of the Carlson. there's your bob threat it's not just a threat people it's a promise it's a promise this story came in from our pal urb beta patched our resident in syracuse yes syracuse new york attorney general letitia james new york's attorney general is suing one of syracuse's most notorious landlords john kiggins over lead paint violations that she said have resulted in the poisoning of at least
Starting point is 01:05:57 18 children living on his property. I would think that eating lead pain is probably better for you than breathing the air in Syracuse. Yeah. Oh. Have you been to Syracuse? It's gross. No, but now I'll have to take your word for it. It's pretty bad. The kids' moms
Starting point is 01:06:13 were like, listen, hi, no, it smells. Just lick the radiator. You feel better. Yeah. The children were poisoned over six years while residing in 17 of an estimated 89 properties owned by this guy. James alleged in the lawsuit who filed Thursday that chipping, peeling, deteriorating, paying other conditions conducive
Starting point is 01:06:31 to lead poisoning were all over these properties and they're suing him. I don't understand why there's not like a criminal charge for this. Isn't this negligence? Yeah, I thought there was a criminal charge as well. He's being sued. That's all I'm seeing here. Oh, he's being, that's right. It said in the article he's being
Starting point is 01:06:47 sued for his profits. He's a slumlord in Syracuse. That's not a profitable business. Are the police that fucking shitty that they can't even arrest him in Syracuse and it's like me that's not a profitable business model being a slum lord in Syracuse if we wanted to get some money out of people we could sue Moderna for all the province of the vaccine that doesn't work oh there it is there it is there it is you guys are with me on this square pig round hole now the exposure to lead pain is undoubtedly
Starting point is 01:07:21 dangerous this company took advantage of low-income families of color failed to provide them a are they supposed to give them a fucking gas mask before they go into the guy's properties like is that supposed to be what you get a gas mask for you at all of your children when you sign the lease no no but you expect to go in a home that isn't full of lead for god's sake or at least have some type of abatement i disagree if i was walking into a home in syracuse i would just expect it you'd expect something lethal to be laying around in that home yep we'll find out what happens there. Now, let's go to Pascoe Washington. Hold on a second. You skipped a really interesting part
Starting point is 01:07:58 of this story. All right. Tell me what I did. All right. So 722 Pond Street was one of the houses that this guy owns. Yes. There was a 13-year-old girl who died in the fire because they were using candles in order to heat the place. They were a temp- There was no heat in the house.
Starting point is 01:08:14 I'm sorry, everybody, for not blaming the victim the way Carl's about to. Listen, you can't use candles to heat a house. I've never been to a birthday party. I've gotten sweaty. Candles do not heat things. Also, every birthday party I've ever been to, I've been sweaty, you asshole. Yeah, you. Also, I did a little Googling street view of 722 Pond Street in downtown Syracuse. Everything's boarded up. There's garbage everywhere. If I was this guy, I'd be like, living in Syracuse is a
Starting point is 01:08:44 health risk. What do you want from me? Maybe Stuttering John lives there. Yeah, it looked like It looked like somewhere the Senator John would claim to own. My numerous properties in Syracuse, New York, I'm a slum lord. Wasn't he the manager, the super, the dump that he lives in? He was, yeah, for some extra money, and then he was getting phone calls too often for people who wanted things fixed. He's like, it's after 4 o'clock. I'm already drunk. You're going to have to call me around noon tomorrow when I wake up. Paschco Washington
Starting point is 01:09:19 Yes Police say They don't know why A knife-wielding man Boarded a school bus full of children And stabbed the 72-year-old bus driver to death The family members of 72-year-old bus driver Richard Lennhart
Starting point is 01:09:33 Watched with heavy hearts As his alleged killer Joshua Davis Appeared in court For the first time last Monday afternoon They set his bail at $1 million But Nobody has any idea what the motive here was Police say that Lenhart had just picked up
Starting point is 01:09:47 the 35 students Friday at Longfellow Elementary School, when Davis forced his way onto the bus, then stabbed Lennhart several times. The driver left his foot on the break during the attack, and the bus crashed into a school parking lot. The psycho on the bus
Starting point is 01:10:03 goes stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, stab, stab. Oh, shit. The kids on the bus all scream, scream, scream. All the way into the fence. The driver of the bus just bleeds and Bleeds, bleeds and bleeds, bleeds, and bleeds.
Starting point is 01:10:22 That's a fun day for these kids. Wow. They don't know why he stayed at the bus driver. I don't know why he came back to the scene of the crime. Yes. They picked him up because he came right back afterwards. I forgot my knife. Hey, are you going to use that?
Starting point is 01:10:37 I can use that, please. This is such a cliche. The criminals coming back to the scene of the crime. They're all like, what happened? What's all the commotion over here, officer? A video recovered from a home just feet away feet away from the scene showed Davis parted a truck along the road before making his way to the bus. Witnesses said he left the area for a short time and then returned to the school where he was arrested. Police still are trying to piece together the motive behind the attack.
Starting point is 01:11:05 There's no information to make investigators believe the men knew each other prior to the stabbing. I bet he's a crazy person. It would be my guess. Yeah. That would be my guess. Hey, speaking to crazy people, you ready for our last stop? in the scum parade everybody yes where are we going to uh texas i want to point something out many this is the second creep off in a row i believe this is a record we have not had a single story out of
Starting point is 01:11:27 florida two in a row what's going on with florida guys come on pick up the pace i'm not as religious as our next creep but uh i'm going to tell you what my crazy christian ann would say yeah it's the end times okay i think you're right a religious man from eulis texas who was often seen reading the Bible, was arrested on Monday night in connection with the deaths of three people whose dismembered bodies were found in a burning dumpster. The Washington Post reported Jason Allen Thornberg, 41, who was also known to talk to God and expressed a desire to help people, has been charging the killings of three people, a 42-year-old man and two unnamed women, and allegedly attempted past murders of two others.
Starting point is 01:12:10 According to an affidavit seen by the Washington Post, Thornberg invited David Louris into his motel room at the Mid-City Inn on September 17th. Thornburg told investigators that he believed Luris should be, quote, sacrificed. First off, and I don't want a victim blame, like sometimes I do. But who's going into a motel room with a very religious man? I'd rather rent an apartment from John Kiggins and lick the wall. Yeah, I'd rather light some candles to heat my house. Fucking dickhead.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Someone with a Bible would invite you into a motel room, pass. Nope. If you learn anything from any episode of this show. If someone has a Bible and they want to talk to you, go the other way. Yes, correct. All right. So, he invites him into the hotel room. He decides this guy David needs to be sacrificed.
Starting point is 01:13:03 So what he did is he just slid his throat, dismembered his body, and placed his remains in plastic storage bins. Is he okay? It's the name of this episode. Thank you, Eric. Is he okay? He's not, he's not well. Episode 82, is he okay? Thank you. No, he's not. About two days later, court documents say Thorberg decided that a female acquaintance
Starting point is 01:13:28 visiting the motel room also needed to be sacrificed. The affidavit says that once again, Thornberg cut his victim's throat, dismembered her body, and another two days passed before Thornberg set out to kill a new victim, the affidavit said. He strangled a female visitor after trying to stab her initially and also dismembered her body. See, this is why I never got into religion. It's just too much work. It's stand up, sit down, kneel. If this is what church was, I might have paid attention.
Starting point is 01:13:52 I might have paid attention at Sunday school. It's too much. He then transported the remains to a dumpster on the outskirts of Fort Worth and set them on fire. Louris was identified by his tattoos and the two other victims have been identified by not publicly named. During a police interview, according to the affidavit Thurnberg allegedly confessed to the killings and referred to them as sacrifices. he also confessed to killing an ex-girlfriend in Arizona and sacrificing his last roommate in May. Ow.
Starting point is 01:14:20 That is involved. I hope God's happy. That's the point, right? Making God happy? Yeah, you know. I'm glad we're keeping God happy. I'd really like to fucking see what the world was like if he was pissed. Right.
Starting point is 01:14:31 God forbid he's in a bad mood. That one would happen to Afghanistan. It almost feels like he's not paying attention. I don't know. I don't know. He is being held in jail that you are investigating the death of the 61-year-old roommate, but they didn't have probable charges to arrest him on that. He is definitely in prison, and that is our scum parade this week. All right. Wow.
Starting point is 01:14:52 You could listen to the Eric Zane podcast. Wherever you get podcasts. Wherever you get your podcast. Now, you do multiple shows every week and apparently every day, huh? Oh, my God. It's ridiculous, the amount of time. But yes, every day. You look like you love it, though. Oh, so much fun. He's like, too much. Oh, God. Too much. Too much. No, yeah. Every day, Eric Zane show is the website. You can find it wherever you download podcast. Yeah, the usual shit. And I'm, I did another pilot for the, for compound media. It's going to be posted very soon. I was going to say, Eric Zane did a pilot for compound media, Anthony Coomia's network. And he did an hour-long video show that I checked out. Very fun, very entertaining. Well, congratulations, Eric. Eric Zane's a limo driver on the weekends. Yeah, I am a limo driver on the weekend.
Starting point is 01:15:40 And the reason why he does that video is just to get material for his show. There's always something. There's always something. And this all has been going on for one year. And I owe it all to Carl. Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl, Carl was the key to me getting all these opportunities. So thank you. I'm writing this down for when we do creepiest limo driver.
Starting point is 01:16:01 You say that, Eric Zane. But this is not true. You found us. You reached out. And you've earned everything that you've achieved, my friend. And I wish you nothing but more success. And I hope that it sticks with compound. Fair enough.
Starting point is 01:16:15 There you go, ladies and gentlemen. That's the only 69 you're going to see. Those two right there. Oh, yeah. I tasted his asshole. That's gross. Well, on that note, ladies and gentlemen, it is nice to be important. Thank you, Vinnie.
Starting point is 01:16:28 It's more important to be nice. Go Gia. Thanks, Eric. Thanks, guys. Don't say shit for attention. You and you and you and you And you have been no There's been no laughs
Starting point is 01:17:01 None May your enemies be cast in your podcast adventures.

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