The Creep Off - Episode 85: It's a Viscous Cycle

Episode Date: October 26, 2021

This week Karl & Vinnie celebrate their favorite holiday by nominating their biggest Halloween Creeps: In the scum parade we meet a real pumpkin head, A couple celebrating their first anniversary and a new father with a million dollar arm. 

Hey everyone, Tucker Dixon here with your weekly recap. I have to go over two weeks and I have to address a couple controversies before I begin. So let's talk about what happened with Carl and Eric Zane. Carl showed up at 4 p.m. instead of noon. Screwing over Eric Zane watching this during his lunch break like I know Mr. Zane loves to do. Secondly, Vinnie screwed over to the audience and Mr. Zane by not playing my weekly recap in which I made some poignant and articulate arguments about how Eric Zane got screwed over the week before. Anyways, moving on to the actual creeps.

Two weeks ago was Nerd Week. And Carl surprised everybody by bringing in Stan Lee. Just kidding. That joke never gets old. Just kidding, we see it coming every single week now. I don't know. He brought in a child diddler who put up on YouTube or something to shit. I don't remember.

He blamed society. Vinny, on the other hand, brought in an award-winning cosplayer, amateur filmmaker, a devoted husband, an avid adulterer, and a murderer. But this man had a deep, dark secret. He liked the Star Wars prequels. Oh, God. Last week was Wild Car Week with Eric Zane and No Carl, one of the best episodes ever. Vinny brought in a guy who was just a doll maker, who made some really creative dolls,

and Eric Zane brought in one of the biggest creeps I've ever heard of. This man was an Australian. Anyways, Tucker out. Attention parents, what you're about to see is not suitable for kids. kids. Shoot, it's not even suitable for some grown-ups. You might want to walk away now if you ain't into these type of things.

I'm going to give the people what they want. Sensation. Horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. Gooku, goon. Fuck yeah.

Disgusting A disgusting, vomit-inducing thing. Ola creepos, welcome to another edition of your favorite true crime podcast, the show about creeps, by creeps, for you creeps. It's the creep off. I'm your host, Vinnie. Paulino. Some of you may know me as the people's champion.

Excel sure at all my true believers out there and this is my co-host as per usual, Carl. What is happening, Vinny Paulino? It feels nice to be back to normal with you in the studio. It is nice to be back here. Cuzzaroo.

Cuzzaroo. And to the Carl Cuzzaroo's out there who support the show. We appreciate that. Thank you guys. You're on the right side of history. And all of the rest of you. The Creep of Maniacs and the Merry Marcher is a great job. By the way, that Tucker Dixon thing at the beginning, awful lot of editorializing going on during that.

I feel like he's... That wasn't just a recap. That seemed to be like taking some shots at people in there, too. I was fine with it, except I disagree. My creep was way worse than a guy who just made dolls, but Tucker sent us this cool thing we talked about on the bonus show. I'll shout him out again. He sent us this great bust.

The Lenny Dykstra Hall of Fame Award. Yes. It looks like Kim Jong-un, though. Yeah, it's very confused. music. Yes. It would have been, would have been more says that like money dykes around there. It's looking at me while I do the show from now on, everybody. Good. Shout out to Tucker Dixon. Now, with that being said, we need to get over some results. Okay. From two weeks ago, we did Nerdweek, the last show you did with me. That's right.

We haven't announced the results of that yet, have we? That is correct. It was your guy was a kiddie diddler, and my guy was a man who lured single dudes to a garage and tried to beat them to death. Mark Twitchell. Shocker, I won. Oh, you got 57th of some of the world Thank you, thank you Thank you Oh, you are on a roll You're up 4 to 2 now

I am up 4 to 2 That will put me on game point today, ladies and gentlemen Let's talk about something that I'm not too pleased about Oh yeah, the Eric Zane show results Yeah, no Eric Zane show But the show with Eric Zane on it You know, Carl, every now and again I feel like I play my hand wrong

what are you talking about you wanted to lose so badly i did not want to lose because you want to do the polar plod you're a stunt boy now i'm not a stunt boy i thought you were like a co-host but apparently you're just a stunt boy you just want to put on a one piece and run out into the lake in february i'm not fucking putting on a one piece i'm wearing a normal goddamn bathing suit that's that i get to pick out the bathing suit no you don't yep no i purchase the bathing suits. No, if anybody gets to, Eric Zane gets to pick it. All right, I'll send him some ideas. Because

I like it when he dresses me up. What were the results of that episode? Motherfucker. Because you brought a creep, man. You had a really good creep. And Eric Zay got 61% of the vote your polar plunging. Well, listen, I got to tell you, I think I told you this. I don't know if it was on air or not

on our bonus show. But you obviously wanted to lose that because his consequence was like putting truck nuts. He already owns on his car. And your consequence, was jumping into the lake when it's freezing cold. I mean, obviously, that's the more fun thing for people. That's what they're going to vote for. No, I said I'm going to go into the lake.

I never said how far. I will wear a bathing suit. Oh, I have a feeling that as soon as it touches your toe, you're going to come running back to shore. Like a big, flopping, fly baby walrus. I use that term, yeah, exactly. Help, help. It's really cold.

I can't, what is this bullshit? I was on the beach this past week down in, Carolina and James Island. And I made a joke to my wife. There was a enormous person sunbathing on the beach, and I just made a quick joke about, you know, should we push her back in? And apparently you're not allowed to judge people at the beach I learned. Did you know that? It's a judge free zone.

I'm not familiar with judge free zones. I was very confused. Did you go, hey, Faddy, do you have a podcast? By any chance? What did you say to about this woman? Oh, I just assumed that she was a beached whale, and I wanted to help her out. Yeah, and she heard you, yeah? No, I was just scolding for goofing on people.

Get out. Yeah, I didn't know that rule. You're in big trouble. You can't make for the fat people. Right. I fell asleep on the beach one time I woke up. Kids were throwing wet towels on me. It goes like, it was a whale that were going to drag me back in.

It was making it. Oh, you want to quit this job. Okay. All right. I believe that you fell asleep on a beach, though. You were probably like pacing yourself. I'll get back. I'll get to the water. I'll get there eventually. It's still be there. All right. So this is officially on then the polar plunge. I'll do it. I don't even want to go down there to videotape, but it's so fucking cold in February, by the way. Oh, Jessica said you wouldn't miss it. So don't worry. She'll hold the camera. You're not going to go to this, though? I might. I mean, you could wear a snowsuit. Would you hold my wrist? robe for me? Will you be my Mickey?

Will you scream for me and cheer for me? Sure, I can do that. Will you make a sign? I'm just not going to donate to whatever stupid charity you come up with. That's what I won't do. All right. So, ladies and gentlemen, Carl. What's with your energy level today?

I don't know, man. I'm trying to drink coffee. I'll get there. I'll get there. All right. We don't have to do these on Monday at noon if you don't want. It was not a good time for you. We could pick another time.

Listen, pal. I'm here. So you won in our category this week, because it is the week of Halloween. We're going to do the biggest Halloween creep. Biggest Halloween creep this week. You won. You go first. All right, Carl.

My creep today comes from right outside of Houston, Texas. I'm going back to Houston, Houston, Houston. He's a soft-spoken. Some of the prep you do for this show is so unnecessary. Like, I appreciate it. Because it's like, you're trying. Somebody has to do something around here. Fair enough.

My creep today comes right from outside of... Going back to you're staying. All right, we used it twice. Now it's worth it. Okay. He's a soft-spoken 30-year-old optician and former father of two, Ronald O'Brien. His actions on Halloween in 1974

not only made Halloween effectively worse for everyone. He also was given a very apt title the man who killed Halloween. Halloween's still alive, though. I don't know if that's a great title. It's probably better than ever, right? Halloween's going pretty strong. They didn't have those spirit Halloween stores

that take over all the dead strip malls then. Yeah, all the circuit cities become spirit Halloween. I would argue that Halloween is now become an adult holiday. If anything, you just took it away from the kids, which could. They have enough fun days. They get enough fun days in their lives. Fuck them. Little assholes. Yeah.

Let's let's have fun at Halloween now. I get my candy. I get my candy. candy. Tucker Nixon sent us in a whole bag of candy, which was very sweet of him. Get it? Very sweet. There's some left. He had to refill it with other candy to make it look like he hasn't eaten and all. These are bids. All right. So here's the thing about my guy. The guy who killed Halloween? Yeah, okay. Yeah, the guy who killed Halloween. It's here bottom. He owed over $100,000 to creditors in 1974, Carl.

Yeah, that's like $30 million today. Well, I actually did the math on that. Yeah, what is the kind of? The equivalent is $563,797. And that's this year? 2021. So last year, when Trump was so the president, it would have been like, what, $200,000? Before the Biden inflation kicked in?

You're a real pain to my ass. You're a real pain to my ass. No, I love paying more for gasoline and food. It's great. It's been a lot of fun. I don't even know I have, I don't even know what I'm talking about. Just go. Okay.

So all I'm trying to say is this guy owed a lot of money and making fucking glasses for people wasn't cutting it, Carl. Okay. Okay. So he lived with his wife, Diane, in Deer Park, Texas. They had two kids. One is eight years old. His name is Timothy. The other one is five years old.

Her name is Elizabeth. So you know she went all the way then. Pretty hot. He, I'll have you know, was a deacon. for the second Baptist church. Very good. And he also sang in the choir, Carl. I heard he had the voice of an angel.

I did not hear that. I heard he had a very soft-spoken, a feminine voice. I heard it sounded like an angel cake. Let's fast forward to Halloween night in 1974. We'll get straight to the point. Let's get straight to the point. A great source that he used was an interview with the DA who prosecuted this case. He did an interview with Michael Segelov for Vice News.

So basically, to reconstruct this for you folks, after dinner with his friends this guy Ron still dressed in his work jacket his white work lab took his neighbor Jim Bates with Jim Bates his son and his two kids Timothy and Elizabeth they all went out

trick or treating. Wait did you say his name was Nick Bate? I said Jim Bate I freaking hate vagina for the sake of the story and a poetic license. Not Nick Bade my bad my bad I think it's fun Painally raping children

Happy Halloween, everybody Disenvelling and forced feeding them their own intestines We forget how good these songs I don't play them enough All right, go ahead, I'm with your story I like your versions too You can hear those on our YouTube channel Ladies and gentlemen

Which we have over a thousand subscribers to Super chats coming soon Thanks everybody We love you so much You're the bestest Now one of the houses they approach Had all of its lights switched off The kids still being greedy

Little assholes Bang down the doors anyway, even though the people didn't want to be bothered with their nonsense. They were drinking and watching TV in another room quietly, not bothering anyone. The children ran to the next house, but our boy Ron O'Brien stayed behind a little bit. And then he catches up with the kids and just a minute later and he goes, hey kids, good news. Look what they had back here. They had pixie sticks are the best.

And not only were they pixie sticks, they were 21-inch pixie sticks, the big ones in the plastic. That's a lot of sugar right there. Yeah, and the people, they had their lights out, Carl. Yeah? But they were still there. It's pixie sticks. Yeah, they got the pixie sticks for the kids. I'm following, yeah, sounds great.

So he gives up to his daughter, to his son, to his neighbor, Nick Bate's son, Nick Jr. And then he gives another one for his older sister who wasn't there. Okay, good. And then as they're walking, you know what? The choir boy, our boy, Ron, sees another little kid from the church. He gives him the last pixie stick. Wow, this guy is a saint. What a good guy.

What a good guy. So they go home, little Timothy says, I want to have a treat for my bag. And his dad says, you could have one thing. What do you want it to be? Please be the pixie stick. Aren't pixie stick's amazing? This is a big one. Look at this.

Pixie sticks. This would be great before you go to bed, wrote it. Right. If you go to bed, pure sugar, you love it. Right. Why not? So Kid tries to open the thing and he can't get it open because it was like stapled shut, which was weird. Odd.

Okay. And so his dad helped him get it open. Good. And then he couldn't get any of the stuff out because at the top it was all kind of stuck in there. So his dad again helped him get some of it out. Then the kid tasted and he didn't like it. Yeah. He's like, I don't like this.

And, you know, instead of being like, all right, well, you don't like it, have another different piece of candy. He's like, no, you opened that pixie stick and you're going to eat that whole 21 inches of pure sugar before you go to bed. Yeah. So he gets that. That was the rule in my house, too. you've got to finish your candy before you go to bed. Finish your candy. I'm very strict about that.

You clean that plate of candy off, young man, before you excuse yourself. And he goes, Dad, this tastes gross. And he goes, it's sugar. It should. He goes, try snorting it. That'll work. You won't taste as much. You know what he did to be a good dad?

What did he do, Vinny? He went and got his son a glass of cooling to help wash it down. Wash it down. It's really important that you eat this pixie stick. It's very clumpy, dad. I don't know why. Well, less than an hour later. Yeah.

Timothy was coughing up blood and declared dead on his way to the hospital. Oh. Okay. Yeah. What did you have Taco Bell for dinner earlier that night? Is there an Arby's nearby? What's the explanation for this? Well, former Harris County prosecutor, Mike Hinton, the guy who was interviewed for this article,

called the morgue when he heard an eight-year-old boy had died of poisoning that night. On Halloween night, of all things, he heard this. So the next morning he calls to find out what's going on. The pathologist said that Timothy had consumed enough cyanide to kill two adults. Hey, that's fucked up. Cyanide? That's bad for you. Very bad for you.

Very bad for you. My doctor said to cut it out completely. They said this kid's breath just like reeked of almonds. Like it was very obvious. Like the guy, it took him two seconds to figure this out. What don't you fucking understand? Tess later found out that shocker, the time. The top two inches of the pixie sticks have been packed with poison, like a fucking musket.

Yeah, what a dumbie. You got to mix it in with the sugar better so they actually eat it, you idiot. Right. He just stuffed it in the top. It's like when you used to put, like, weed at the top of a cigarette, you dump a little bit of the tobacco out and put the weed on the top. Yeah. It's like you can tell it's not a cigarette. You're not fooling anyone with that.

They also noticed that these other kids had gotten these same pixie sticks, too. so luckily and sincerely luckily none of them ate them it's not luck vini you just told a whole story about how this kid couldn't open it once he did he didn't like how it tasted it was all clumped together he had to wash it down with kuwait of course someone else ate it they weren't forced to you by their father that's true i don't know how the daughter got away with it i don't know how the daughter she was like this kid he sucks well here's the other part of it though that church boy that he saw walking down the street and he's just like hey here you go enjoy this in fucking hell kid yeah he gives I mean, what the fuck else are going to say to this kid?

You're murdering him. It's a trap! He gives him this fucking candy. And this kid, before he went to bed, tried to get into the pixie stick, but he couldn't get the fucking staples out. So... See? Yeah. That's what I was talking about.

I guess, you know, the later argument would be I put him in tamper-proof containers. I got nothing. So... Why he's smiling so much? This little boy just died of cyanide. poisoning. Yeah, it's not good. It's not good. So the police took Ronald back to the neighborhood where they were trick-or-treating, Carl. And they were like, so, you're telling me, somebody gave you these pixie-stick. Show us which house it was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he's like, I don't remember.

I don't know. Honestly, I wouldn't remember what house I got a pixie-stick from if I was trick-or-treating with my kids, except for the daughter remembers that he, like, hey, here's the pixie-sticks from that house. I'm sorry. I'm trying to, I'm trying to move the fucking story along. He's walking with the fucking cops. Yeah. And he's going, I don't know. When they trick-or-treated, Carl, they only did two blocks. Oh, okay.

So it shouldn't have been that hard. Right. And that's where we got the apple with the razor blade in it. And that's where we got the cyanide lace pixie sticks. And over there, they gave us the sneakers, but not the fun size. It was like little mini-snickers. Those fucking things suck. So get the fun size at least.

So you don't remember the place they gave you like a two-foot tube of sugar to get to your children. And he's like, I don't know. He says, well, can you tell us what the person looked like? And he goes, I don't know. Someone's arm came out and handed them to me. Okay. He's giving them every story he gets.

Yep. I'm going along with it. Yep. As long as the police have this, what's the word I'm looking for? It would be their, I don't know, I've lost it. Either way. Yeah. He doesn't get, motto.

He doesn't tell them anything. Motto is the word. I'm glad I was calling you out I was calling you off for being tired today all right I'm back in it let's go all right the cops they're now trying to figure out where these could have come from

did anybody else get these things they're putting news bulletins out this is a massive story kid dies Halloween trick or treating candy ah fucking poison yeah everybody's losing their shit this guy's keeping his mouth shut right yeah

so to not eat any of that cyanide because it was that house guy who owns it's not home He's at his job at the airport. The cops show up at the airport, arrest him in front of all of his co-workers, and drag the guy out. And it turns out on Halloween night, he was at work the whole evening. There was like 200 people at the fucking airport who could have vouched for him. So this dude's getting arrested, hauled out of there.

And that's what they started looking at the dad. This is what Hitton said. He said that he heard O'Brien was angry at his relatives for not staying up the night of Timothy's funeral and the reason why he was upset is because he had written a song about Jesus and Timothy joining the Lord in heaven and had grown agitated with his grieving family because they wouldn't stay up to watch a late recording of the performance that was being broadcast on public television. That's fascinating. Please go on. This motherfell who's like so details are you going to add to the story. This guy's a treat. His little daughter and his wife are

boarding the fucking brother who was coughing up blood all over the house. like a week before. Being more funny. And he's like, don't you want to watch Dan sing? Don't you want to stay up and watch Daddy's Jesus song? He's trying to help them heal. Benny?

I have a clip of the song. Oh, okay. Let's hear it. Ladies and gentlemen, here is Rodald O'Brien. I'll do a good start. Yeah, that's pretty good. Nice sense.

They send the signs. I saw it on TV I guess he'll be one empty seats When I wrestle at Gwendoly Okay, that's Hulk Hogan I'm sorry, I couldn't find the actual clip I was just trying to Come up with something there

So he got all That was Hulk Hogan singing right there He got all that was Hulk Hogan, yes sir All right, everyone drink That was a very, two drinks for that one That was so unnecessary He tells a detail of the story that's unnecessary, just to set up

a song. You don't think it's hysterical? It's completely unnecessary. You don't think that it's hysterical that this guy murdered his son and he's mad at his family that they don't want to stay up late and watch him sing on TV. There's been no laugh. They're figuring out. Oh, you're triggering me. Oh, I'm going to fight you.

Oh, you motherfuckerucker. You better stop with that board. You better stop with that board right now. Foring. Oh, you bastard. I'm going to lose it today. Fine, Carl. I feel like I've been one of those planes flying. around Hong Kong right now. You're just like,

ah, ha ha ha. I'm not going to take your Danzel in distress. Do you want to know something fun, though? I am not surrounded by Coors Light kids, so that's good. That's good. Now, they also discovered that when they started investigating, that he had recently taken out life insurance policies on both of his kids. Oh, okay. Recently. Yes. Never a good move. Starting in January.

Yep. Always kill the person years later. And for $10,000 in January, then an extra $20,000, a month on each child leading up to Halloween. Okay. All right. So he's tried to get out of that $100,000 worth of debt, Carl. Smart. You've got to have a plan. I mean, you can't just hope things work out.

Do you have dead giveaway ready? Oh, I certainly can. Okay, thank you. Have it ready for me. They found out that the day after he died, All Saints Day, November 1st, Halloween was a Thursday, 9 a.m. Friday morning. He called the insurance company to collect on his.

You won't believe what just happened with this policy. And I just increased. They had all sorts of witnesses. He was going all over town trying to buy cyanide. He went to some chemical company like, yeah, we can sell to you. But the small spot we sell is like five pounds. Yeah. Oh, geez.

And he, like, he yelled at them and left. It's like, I don't have to kill that many kids. Just two. I just need to kill two kids. Damn it. And that's why he probably had five of them. If I had cyanide on me right now, I'd make sure, oh, you guys all laid it. I teach you all the lesson here.

Yeah. You want to go up the coffee, Carl? I'm good, buddy. Thank you. All right. Are you making coffee over there? Oh, yeah. Well, I have coffee.

Oh, okay. Why don't you have some coffee, Carl? I'm good for now. You know what? I'm just going to continue. I have some lovely almond creamer. This is why I bring beverages that have tops on them, that I witness myself being broken, the seal being broken when I open. This is why.

He was arrested November 5th, 1974, so not too long. after and he was charged one count of capital murder, four counts of attempted murder for each of the pixie sticks that he handed children to murder. Yeah. And he claimed to be innocent, but he was eventually found guilty in 45 minutes

by the jury and sentenced to fucking death. Yes. And ladies and gentlemen, the reason why they say he's the man who killed Christmas because every rumor you ever heard about a kid getting poisoned by Halloween candy, it was this fucking guy. And, and

there's never been another death from Halloween poison candy Halloween candy poisoning since then. Correct. Yeah, you know, they always say like most robberies are an inside job. Yeah. People aren't just looking to like murder random kids in their neighborhood. They should be. But they're not. Right. So what they

do is they pretend like there's all these dangers. It's really just your dad wants to kill you. Wouldn't it be great if we had like the kitty purge? Yes. It would be great. It's like midday in the summer. Like starts at like two, ends in happy hour. You can just run around with a sickle. just so I can take them out.

I believe that children are our future, and that that future is a dystopian nightmare. So, yes, I agree. This is a good idea, Betty. Thank you. Let's get out of it. I'm glad we can finally agree. So this guy poisoned a bunch of kids. He was a dead feet.

He was a dead thing. He tried to poison a bunch of kids, and he was singing about Jesus on TV and trying to get famous off of his kid's death by singing. And he sucks. God, that was a long story for what actually happened. I could have summed that up a lot quicker. Now, the thing that you left. out that's actually interesting about this guy is that the lethal ejection right before that

he says we all make mistakes we all do bad things and killing me is one of those bad things but i will forgive all of you and god will forgive you for this injustice of you killing me his last day he wasn't like sorry for what he did he was calling out the justice system for putting up the death as if it was their fucking problem but yes i agree they call him the candy man too is his other nickname the candyman can't That's a better nickname of the guy who killed Thanksgiving or Halloween. Yeah. What the fuck?

He said Christmas ice of Thanksgiving. I'm sure the family was morning well into the holidays, Carl? Yeah, I'm sure it was. Yes. Good point. All right. Is it my turn now? I guess.

My Halloween creep is Michael Myers. You know what this guy is up to? Maybe you're familiar with this? I've heard. Yeah. In 2008, he put out the love guru. This was a giant piece of shit. That's the end of my case.

Now, okay. So, my creep is a guy named David. It's the double swerve, ladies and gentlemen. This way, that way. And now we're going straight. David L. Andrews is my creep for Halloween this week. In 1977, he was arrested and later convicted in 1978. For criminal sexual conduct, in 1981, he was arrested for unarmed robbery.

In 1983, this is in Michigan, by the way, where he's from. In 1983, Andrews escapes from the Grass Lakes Corrections Camp in Grass Lakes, Michigan, while serving a 10 to 15 year sentence for breaking and entering. So this guy was put in his correction facility. He got out in 1984, July 19, 1984, Andrews was arrested in Miami County on a felony warrant for escaping from the Michigan Corrections camp. Extradition papers never arrived from Michigan and Andrew's girlfriend, Gene Ann Yackel, post $10,000 bond for his release. Now, less than a month later, August 11, 1984, Andrews marries Gene Anniackel, 27 years old, of Wagstaff. It is Gene's third marriage, and Gene has...

An Aesop begat fables. Three children. Holy shit. Are you following so far, Vinny? Go ahead. So this creep gets married to this woman who bails him out. So now they're married. Fast forward to Halloween night of that year.

October 31st, 1984, this woman has three children. The youngest is Brian, eight years old. And on that night, Brian watched his 26-year-old new stepfather, David L. Andrews, brutally murder his mother and two sisters by stabbing them to death inside their homes. It is still considered by local law enforcement officers and community members to be one of the grisliest murders in Miami County history. Retired Miami County Sheriff's Office Deputy Randy. Cornelius, who was one of the first to arrive at the murder scene in 1984, was in attendance at a recent parole hearing.

Now, in 2017, this guy was up for parole, and there's a few people who aren't having that. Yeah, I would imagine. This is one of those guys. Cornelius, who had just started. You didn't want to welcome him back into the community? Not a lot of people want to welcome him back, specifically this woman's son, Brian, the stepson, who witnessed him murder his entire family. If only somebody would have murdered all my sisters.

Holy shit. Cornelius, who had just started his law enforcement career at the time, said he is still haunted by the images of the murder scene, and the parole hearings have forced him to experience that emotion all over again. There wasn't a wall in that house that didn't have blood on it, Cornelius said. It was early in the morning of November 1, 1984, when Cornelius was called to respond to a crime team in Wagstaff. Gene Yackel, 28-year-old mother of three,

was found in the living room by the front door lying in a pool of blood. multiple stab wounds were clearly visible on her lifeless body down the hall and inside a bedroom Cornelius discovered an even more horrendous sight crammed into the corner of the room between a bed and the wall the lifeless bodies of 11-year-old Tiffany Don Massey and 10-year-old Tamara Joe Massey were covered in blood and knife wounds.

So this guy murders the mom. The kids run into the room, he runs down the hallway, opens it up, kills them. Now you got Brian, the 8-year-old boy who's still in the house, who's watching all this. so then Andrews goes into his room covered in blood kidnaps the boy they go to a motel he forces this kid

to sleep in a motel with him that night hotel motel could you imagine what that looks like when he showed up to the front desk oh my god with the kid he's probably covered in fucking blood yeah I probably didn't clean up too much it seemed like a horrific scene so the next day November 1st

Andrews takes Brian to Port Huron Michigan where Andrews grew up they're going to go hang with his sister there. On November 2nd, Andrews is charged in Miami County District Court with three counts of first-degree murder and at all points bulletin is issued for his arrest. Once Andrews finds out about this, he decides to commit suicide. He shoots himself in the chest with a 25 caliber handgun in the sister's home in Port Haran. Michigan authorities find Brian alive inside the home. Andrews is still alive too because a suicide attempt didn't work and he's taken to the hospital where he's guarded there. now fast forward january 16th nineteen eighty five the charges against andrews are expanded to include aggravated kidnapping because he took brian you know obviously across state lines and aggravated

criminal sodomy oh no not brian kidnapping a sodomy charges were added resulting from andrews taking brian from the home after the murder and allegedly sodomizing him several times on their two-day trip to michigan so this guy murders the entire family grabs the boy and it's just fucking his butt the entire way to michigan that's the only thing i can think of the word than just driving to Michigan. Yeah. It's pretty horrific, don't you think? He must have been really excited about what he had done to think that that's how he's going to celebrate. On May 13, 1985, which was the morning the jury selection was scheduled to begin, a plea deal was announced.

Andrews pleaded guilty in exchange for the dropping of the kidnapping and sodomy charges and the reduction in the primary charge to three counts of second-degree murder. So I guess there were a couple things that the prosecution was concerned about because The only witness was this eight-year-old boy, and it's tough to get children. And this kid puts out, so it's like he can't trust him. Correct. He's too loose. Also, they never found the murder weapon. This kid was talking to me.

I heard his ass so flabbing the whole time. I don't believe a word he's saying. Yeah. Let's not slut shame. Poor little eight-year-old Brian, please. Vinny, I feel like that's inappropriate right now. They're not bad. Be grote to be Brian Ball.

Inside jokes. Everyone loves them. Okay. in June of 1985 he was sentenced to 15 years to life in prison for each second degree murder conviction with the sentences to run consecutively

making his total sentence reach 45 years at the 2017 parole hearing Brian Massey spoke for the longest time. Now this is the boy who's now an adult who's speaking about this he said Andrew said his mother got to an argument and she kicked him out of the house. He returned

later and the argument turned to violent. Brian said he watched as his mother reached for the phone to call his grandpa, and that's when Andrews first started stabbing her. After stabbing her more than 30 times, Andrews went down the hallway to find the sisters who ran into their room. They knew what was going to happen to them, Brian said. After the murders, Brian said Andrews came into his room covered in blood. He didn't have any remorse, Brian said. There was only a savage presence about him. His words for Brian were brief and chilling. If you do not listen and obey, I will kill you.

Ready for the good news. He was denied. Parole in 2017. His next eligibility will be in November of 2027. So that's my Halloween monster, David L. Andrews, who murdered his wife and stepchildren

and then kidnapped and butt-fucked his stepson. How do you celebrate Halloween the next year? I wouldn't celebrate it a lot. You know, I'd half-ass I put on one of those costumes just a smock with the stupid plastic mask you put on top of your head. Do you think this guy like

burst into tears. I think so. I think he's traumatized. Every time he sees Halloween. I think he's pretty fucking traumatized by it, Vinny, because this guy's driving from Texas to Florida every time he has to go back in front of the parole hearing. For some reason, they changed the law so at 50% of the sentence served, he could start filing for parole.

So now all these people get dragged back to tell this story again every 10 years. It seems like a weird system. Don't you think the people on the parole board are like, yeah, yeah, we know. We butt fucked you. We remember you the last time. We got it. They're like, look it. We're letting guys out who butt-fuck boys all the time.

You think that story is going to change anything here? We can't wait to let these people out. Yeah. Did you take any vows of chastity by any chance before you did it? Because then you're immune, apparently. All right. So that's my creep. Creepious Halloween.

And I go back to 1984 with David L. Andrews. Yours is what, 74? Well, yeah, my guy, Ronald O'Brien. See, this is what you always do. Here we go. All right, yeah, let's continue your argument because you already, you had your chance. I was just saying his name. You had your chance.

All I said was his name. You were about to go into your whole thing. Watch this. Ladies and gentlemen, vote for Vinnie and Ronald O'Brien, the Candyman. The Candyman. Let's see that dick. Ah, you ruined it. I was done.

All right. I was letting it go. All right. Fucking fight you. Can we do voicemails now? I guess. All right, cool. The voicemail segment is brought to you by.

our friends in Syracuse. Oh, do we not have a new ad? Oh, good. The creep-off voicemail segment is brought you by the city of Syracuse. Halloween is approaching, and we want you to have fun and be safe. Know which houses give out the good fentanyl. See you in Syracuse. Good advice.

Solid advice. So this one came in, and Carl, I got to tell you, I feel like this person is speaking for a lot of fans here. Uh-oh. I think you should listen to what they have to say. I don't like where this is going. Vinny and Carl. I decided to become a patron after dickering over whether or not the patron YouTube freaks or not. I've been hesitant to join as I was, and still am concerned,

but I'll end up on some database once the creep off donor list is leaked. How does he do it? Oh, well, a few weeks ago, Carl had a show with the Turk Krautkaya, where he shouted that illusion of the relationship between show host and listener. Of course, we are not your friends, Carl, with a K, but you didn't have to reduce the relationship to so explicitly a transactional one. I felt like a filthy John exchanging Luker for cheap entertainment. I don't want to be reminded that I'm just a passive pay-pig for WATP.

Please lie next time and say that we lead listeners are your friends and online family. Thanks to you, I am now a Viannon True Believer, as your co-host seems to appreciate the fans just a little bit more than you. Vinny, despite being the worst possible combination of humans, California and Yankee, you have been you have grown on me however i do hope that you are just playing a character who like pro wrestling ironically please don't call me back oh carl i love you i love the fans and i appreciate the support we are friends

in fact when i was down in south carolina i ran into a fan luke who uh came up and introduced himself and we took a a selfie together we're buddies now what did he just hear you talking somewhere loudly yeah i know it's funny knows that voice it's funny i actually was not saying a word of the time he recognized me which was odd but i was wearing my bill's jersey so that kind of gave it away everywhere he goes well it was monday it was the game day everywhere he goes i dare you so this is somebody who did some sleuthing into figuring out who was the person who hacked the vote a few episodes back okay good let's get to the bottom hey viny i did a little internet sleuthing and i think i figured out who voted for carl all those times

Lenny Dykstra Motherfucker I That's very Motherfugger Very possible, sir Very possible He's a creep

I love this voicemail Hey Carl I gotta say I'm a big fan Of who are these Podcasts And I've loving the creep off So I finally pulled the trigger

Signed up for the Patreon It became a Vietnam True believer Go fuck yourself He's a piece of shit Cuz-a-Roo Cuzz-a-Roo What is this all about?

What is this all about? We should do a current tally on that. See where we're at. Because I won the race to 50. But I don't know where we're at these days. Yeah, we got to go back and figure that out one of these days. Because otherwise, what's the point? Why don't we still have it?

We never talk about it. Fun. It's not fun. All right, whatever. All right. Listen. We're having too much fun. Listen, pal.

Yeah. We got to talk about some emails that we got real quick. Okay. I believe you have one that you're supposed to read. Oh, yeah, that's right. I do have one. I'll read it right now. You asked someone a question a few weeks ago when we told the story about how I spilled a big fresh glass of tequila all over the front of me while it performed.

So what happened was Vinny was the feature act for Harold Williams. Harland. Harland Williams. Thank you. Give a time. And so we went to see him for the early show on Saturday. I thought he did fantastic. He did really good.

And then our buddy Crunk Daddy 68 came down with his friends from a local college here, and they came to see Vinny perform in the later show, which I did not see. But then Vinny told the story about how he spilled his cocktail all for him, and it was really hard to recover from that. So, Crunk Daddy. And you said, I'd like to hear your version of it after I said I won the audience back. Correct. According to you, this was a triumphant moment where you went from heel to hero because you're so amazing. So let's hear what Krunk Daddy. From zero to hero.

Let's hear what Krunk Daddy had to say. In fact, some would call me the hero of the stupid. Hola, Griepos. This is Krunk Daddy 68. Carl was asking for my version of Vinny's spilled drink story in the last episode, asking you shall receive. Thanks, Crunk Daddy 68. So I sat close to the stage.

I sat so close to the stage that I could touch Vinny if I wanted to. You don't want to. No. Vinny spilled the drink, trying to switch hands, and he leaned against the wall. in embarrassment like he stated what he didn't add after that I threw out a comment which was something along the lines of maybe you should start drinking after your set so this guy's heckling you before you even get a word out yep I forgot about that that is true uh which got the room

chuckling because Vinnie quickly responded I'll do that next time thank you great line Vinnie yeah real killer really got the room chuckling I think I think that's exactly what Carlin would have said. Yeah, right. Vinnie, like a true professional, leaned into the joke. He used it as a good segue into a joke about another embarrassing moment he had while doing stand-up. He had also gave the worker Gabe a, is it short order? Is that what an S-O is?

A shout-out? Yeah, a shout-out for cleaning up the stage and replacing his drink. At the end of his time, he circled back to the spilled drink by picking up his new drink with two hands like he was a child. which gave us one last funny moment. Oh, Waka, Waka. I concur with Carl that Vinny really had a good set. My friends who didn't know Vinny beforehand only had positive things to say about his set on our ride home.

Well, he doesn't include the things they had to say about your physique. Oh, yeah. No, the set was fine. The odor was so hard to look at it. The odor was difficult. Except two of them thought Vinny spilled his drink on purpose. I could tell by his reaction it was real. On another note, I appreciate Vinny stopping himself before doxing my location last episode.

doxing his location. We know what state he's from. Is that going to dox him? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like he doesn't want to be associated with any of this. What I don't appreciate is neither of you comment about how handsome I am. Okay. All right. There's your note. Thanks for coming. You have another email over there? I do. This one is very interesting. This one came in from Ara Elkins. And they write, hi, gentlemen. I'm an actual practicing attorney.

who works primarily with juvenile criminal defendants. This is what I type like. During episode 82, you talked about Eric Zane's story about his co-worker and his juvenile record. Yes. And there is some pretty clear misunderstandings. Okay. All right, you sent in a whole explanation here, but you also sent in all lawyers speak of I am not able to give this as legal advice because I am not licensed. at every state.

Right, right, right. This is not anything to do with this particular case, but if I were representing a, you know, and perhaps these are the circumstances. Maybe this is what, okay, we get it. Juvenile courts use different words for everything on purpose, and this is all by statute, meaning it's not something judges have a choice in. For example, in adult court, if you're convicted of a crime, in juvenile court, under the exact same facts, you're adunicated, or a delinquent, it's a delinquent offense, or an adjunct.

communicated delinquent. One of the reasons behind this is specifically so you can truthfully answer questions about criminal convictions in the negative. Who fucking cares? What is this garbage? How do they have a podcast? This is bullshit. It's boring as shit. T.S. The Creepoff is by absolute favorite. Oh, thank you. I'll read that part. I'll read that part. Put all that on and pose that. Thank you for letting this know. I just think that's fascinating that like they put it in their purposefully so they could just lie on applications. Well, that is kind of the point is that they want to give people a second chance, especially when they screw up when they're children.

Yeah, all right. Because you don't want to, like, have someone do something dumb when they're 14. I know I did some dumb things when I was 14, and then you can never get a job again. Thank Christ you didn't have children then, right? I guess raping a child when you're 14 is different than some of the shit that I was getting. If you rape a child when you're 14, yeah. Convicted of a crime is fine. Yeah, that could be true.

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Vinnie, I got someone to play for you. All right. I was listening to my friend Tim Dillon. Okay. And Tim Dillon actually had a message for you specifically. I don't believe it.

Which I was surprised by it because sometimes he'll use my name as a fun little shout-out. Like, we like to give shout-offs to each other back and forth, but, you know, it's kind of behind-the-scenes stuff. People don't really know about. Sure. We're not listening closely. But he finally addressed you. Oh, good. Now, you know that Tim Dillon's a gay man, right?

Sure. Okay. Like, I have mild homosexuality. My homosexuality is not pronounced. but it's effective when it needs to be. I have sex with men, but that's not really what being gay is anymore. Being gay is not really having sex with men.

It's really dyeing your hair. It's gone from having sex with men to dying your hair, which is much easier to do. Looking good over there, Blondie. Looking real good, buddy. It started as, oh, my wife wanted to do it as a goop, but now he's just keeping it up, and getting the roots touched up,

because it looks like shit all the time. It's a fucking awful vicious cycle. When I heard Tim Johnson, it's a vicious cycle. I dye my hair because I'm unhappy. I am unhappy because I die my hair. It's a vicious cycle. Let's do a scum parade, you fucking asshole.

I'm ready for a scum prey. Let's do it. All right. The scum parade is nothing for creeps. The scum parade on Paralylandish show. A man from Pittsburgh's Bloomfield neighborhood launched pumpkins and a grandmother who marched in front of his home to pick up her grandchild a few doors down, police, eh? James Gazzis, 41, is charged with aggravated assault and propulsion of miscarriage.

Pursion of missiles is a crime, is it? Apparently. In connection with the Wednesday altercation, a criminal complaint filed in the case said Gaseus threw pumpkins after he heard his wife screaming outside their Pearl Street home. Okay. She sounds great. He said his wife screamed that a woman who had parked in front of their house nearly hit her and their child, at which point he threw two pumpkins at the car and its driver. Well, this is good for our Halloween episode because there is nothing scarier than an old person behind the wheel. That is a scary sight to see.

These people have no business driving automobiles. And I'm sure after she got hit in the dome with the pumpkin, she didn't have a clear recollection. I didn't almost hit anybody. You should always throw pumpkins at those people. Tell them to stop driving. I wish fall was all year, so I had pumpkins on my front porch all the time. So the women told police she wasn't sure. if she lost consciousness, but she was struck in the head with the pumpkin.

Police noted that she was bleeding and she told officers her head hurt. Oh, my head hurts. You're getting hit in the head with a pumpkin, we'll cause it to hurt. I'm no doctor, but I do have a friend. Yeah, yeah. Her son told officers he scuffled with James Gazzes after he threw the pumpkins and ultimately threw him to the ground. According to the complaint, paramedics bandaged Gazi's toe before he was taken to the jail.

That didn't need to be in the report. Which I think is funny. They reported that the incident was caught on surveillance camera, and it did not appear that Gassi's wife or a child were even in danger of being struck with the vehicle. Oh, I wonder what angle that's from, because honestly, Minnie, I bet she probably did hit the wife and child, which is why she got the pumpkins thrown at her. I wouldn't be surprised if she ran over him twice. They're probably dead. That's why he was throwing the pumpkin at this woman. She's probably murdering his wife and their child.

ain't no fact I'm just I'm just saying I've seen old people drive before it's a murder spree yeah listen ladies and gentlemen I think if we just all collectively started throwing pumpkins at senior citizens yes they'd learn and they would stay

home yes they would be like we can't go out where they belong in the home yeah keep them in the home yeah give him COVID throw a COVID blanket over him in the home called a day God now I'm now I'm

Discuss it with myself Preliminary hearing is scheduled for next month That I believe that Against the woman, the driver? No, against the pumpkin thrower And I see here that Blame the victim Mr. Hamburger will be representing

Mr. Gossis Yes My client, Your Honor, is still grieving His wife and child Who may or may not be dead From this woman driving And yes, that is them over there Yeah, well, okay

Just look at him Told you guys have to show up today Yeah, I know, but look at him horrible family they might as well be dead so let's go to New Hampshire a 41 year old New Hampshire man is charged with murdering his wife

while the couple was in Vermont celebrating their first wedding anniversary oh dear that's a 365 days yeah it's a lot of time yeah how many years are you in again I'm coming up on eight yeah my eighth anniversary next week oh really

yeah well what a lucky lady she can do worse she certainly couldn't now Joseph Ferlazzo told detectives on Tuesday he fatally shot his wife Emily Furlazo who's 22 years old

Saturday morning inside their camper van in Bolton, New Hampshire he then later dismembered her body with the saw police said Chitton County State's attorney Sarah George said the evidence of guilt was everywhere There's a history of domestic violence with the relationship.

Emily's been seen with scratches and bruises. Joseph told investigators Thursday that he and his wife gotten to an argument inside the camper that got physical. You know, I got to say, I saw the photo of Emily. She looks like a real Gabby Petito, if you know what I mean. She might have had this one coming. Okay. But keep antagonizing your boyfriends and husbands. Well, Joseph said that after.

Emily Frilazzo had stopped hitting and kicking him. Yep. She laid on a bed because she got tired from hitting and kicking him. After five to ten minutes, Joseph Frizzavo retrieved a handgun, jumped on top of her, and shot her twice in the head. That'll do it. According to the affidavit of probable cause, he told investigators he began to have an anxiety attack,

placed a garbage bag over her head, and moved her body to the bathroom of the camper. Oh, this camper must have been some sites. Some fucking Jackson Pollock. Yeah. On Saturday morning, Joseph said he took the camper from Bolton to a friend's house in St. Albans. According to police, about 12 to 15 hours after the shooting, he used a handsaw to dismember her body. He told police he then placed the body parts in garbage bags, which stayed in the camper.

Oh, my God, this guy, if you're going to go through the trouble of handsawing someone's body into pieces and then putting it into bags, don't confess your crime to cops. Your pot committed at that point. You're all in. I don't know what's going on here, Officer. I don't know what you're talking about. I have nothing to do with any of this. Be like Mike Creep the Candyman. Until the day you go to the fucking legal injection.

I just, just in case the governor's listening. Vinny, I know that you know how much work it is to hand saw someone into pieces. This takes hours and hours. It's grueling, grueling work just to be like, oh, yeah, you got me. I did it.

Then why were you going through all of that? Fucking hysterical. Funny guy, Carl. Poor joke. never confess buddy well when police searched the camper they found the bag so right they and you know they said oh look human remains the remains was sent to the office of the vermont medical examiner for autopsy they found the weapon they believe he used to kill emily and the saw used to dismember her so as you said you can imagine that this trailer was a fucking mess oh and here's the thing that blew my mind on this they went to court the other day and his lawyer at the to plead of not guilty. Yeah. Guess what?

Too late. He's like, He already confessed to the police, you idiots. He's like, good luck with that. We got the gun that you shot her. Wasn't me.

You chopped her up in the shower. Wasn't me. Nice. Got your confession on camera. Wasn't me. But this motherfucker, he's claiming he's not guilty even though he confessed

to the whole fucking thing to the cops. You know who's really the victim in this is dog the bounty hunter because he wanted to be looking for this guy. Instead he just goes up and confesses. Dog was. He's not worth for that one, too. He was just walking by. He was just randomly there.

So let's go to Indiana, shall we? Let's do it. This story is truly fucking horrifying. Be careful who you meet on the internet, kids. I'm still not sure I even understand the story. Let's go through it. Well, I had to read it a couple of times. Yeah.

I got the gist here. An Indiana woman is facing a slew of felony charges after police say a meeting set up on a dating app turned into a nightmare's jealousy-fueled rape and murder scene. Okay. Right there. This is my first question. Okay. So this is all about this Heidi Kathleen Carter.

Right. And she should not be the main character of the story. Okay, that's what I was confused by because then I started to read. Okay, so now that we know the headline, this woman arrested for rape and murder, right? Let's keep that in mind. And now read the story, Betty. And please explain to me why that was the headline of the story. I can't.

Okay. So I guess if we're talking chronologically, it makes sense. Okay. I do think chronologically. I get that. The whole thing began when the 36-year-old woman Heidi Kathleen Carter connected with the woman on a lesbian dating app. Okay. I think it's, I have no idea what that is.

I've never used a lesbian dating app. What is it called? Etsy. Etsy, yes. I believe that's correct. And invited her and a woman's boyfriend to her home. Okay. So the lesbian has.

a boyfriend. Okay. We'll find out very soon. Heidi Kathleen Carter also has a boyfriend. Right. Now, when the couple arrived at Carter's home, the three of them drink alcohol and took drugs before engaging in consensual sexual activity. So I don't like this part because I need you to be a little bit more specific about the take drugs part. Is it meth? Is it Molly? These are very different drugs that you would react to very differently. I would imagine if you're about to have a threesome, you're either, well, you're a degenerate. Both work. Both of those would work. They would both are options. Correct. That not, no, very different ways. Listen, listen, if you're thinking about having an orgy on meth or Molly. I mean, I would pick Molly out of those two.

I'm just saying. Pick the Molly. Pick the Molly. Pick the Molly 100%. The couple's names were redacted for the police report. But as they were engaging in the sexual activity, Carter's boyfriend, Carrie Hammond, the star of the show. Yes. Unexpectedly arrived at home and allegedly became upset. Why? Because his girlfriend was getting pounded by the stranger? I believe that was it. Okay.

That'll do it. The surviving... Some people are very upset when they see that. The surviving female victim told investigators that Hammond grabbed a baseball bat and began ruthlessly beating her boyfriend. Yeah. Hammond then restrained the couple using duct tape, beating and abusing them for hours. According to the affidavit, Carter restrained. the couple using duct tape, beating them and abusing them for hours as well.

She allegedly helped Hammond restrained them and held them at gunpoint. Reportedly threatening to kill the victims, Hammond raped the women several more times while she was restrained. She was there for sex, dude. You didn't know, could have just joined in. Holy shit. Could have just joined in. I'm sure they'd be like, fine.

Yeah, come on in. Sergeant Gray from the Evansville police described the seat as gruesome. They said that Carter left the hope for a couple hours, during which time Hammond beat the male victim reportedly kicking him with steel-told boots before using a belt to strangle him to death after he saw him trying to escape his restraints. All right, so this is the boyfriend,

murdering the guy. She went out for takeout. She went out to go pick up Taco Bell or some shit. Right, which is why I'm confused about this story. All right. So she lured them. I don't know if that's true. They were all getting it on.

This guy just showed up. They said it was unexpected that he showed up. Okay, so here's what I'm thinking. I'm thinking that this Carrie Hammond is really stupid. And she wanted to have her, like, her sex party, right? Who's Carrie Hammond? The boyfriend, the guy who beat everybody to fuckies with the bat. Okay, got it.

Got it. So she's like, Carrie, these people just showed up. They were selling bibles and they just started fucking me. I can't believe it. Yeah, right. They did what? And then he just started beating the shit out of them. You know when I read Matthew, I get all hot and bothered.

And he's just like, hold this. good on him a lot to time up but she's like yes sir and she just plays dumb because this guy's obviously a violent stupid lunatic yeah so she probably blamed the whole thing on them this guy took all of his anger out on those two poor fucking people he raped the shit out of this woman yeah yeah killed this guy beat him to death stomped his head in with steel toad fucking boots right and this bitch left the house to go run errands well i mean they got to get some food eventually yeah so she definitely deserves mentions here she sucks oh yeah no no I'm not a fan of Heidi.

I mean, that wasn't my point. Heidi and Carrie, both real names. So they also tied and shackled the female victim. Well, the male suspect raped her multiple times throughout the day. Gray added that Carter told police she only pretended to help Hammond and held the gun on victims to appease him. That story checks out to me. I would believe that. So when Carter returned, Hammond had allegedly wrapped the man's body in blankets and moved him into another room in the home.

In a shocking turn of events, police say that Carter, this woman, Heidi, that invited another woman over to help her clean the house in preparation for an impending inspection by the landlord. Ah, yes. So you want to have your friend come over, help you clean up a little bit because you don't want to have any violations. Yep, that makes sense. Yep, yep, yep. Most people don't have a dead body wrapped in blankets just laying around, though. You know what else bothered me about this? is they ordered pizza.

Yeah. And I hate the one who would clean at least two rooms in the house, and then they ordered a pizza. I hate this thing where you think that, like, you can just buy pizza and people will help you move or clean your house or hide dead bodies. It offers some money. Pizza's not enough. Again, why I'm the people's champ. Just call me everybody. We'll do things for pizza.

I'll do lots. I'll do things I'm ashamed of for pizza. Now, like, eat too much pizza. yeah it's a it's a circle i know all about it all right so they're eating pizza that's what the woman allegedly heard a strange noise coming from the bathroom and went to investigate there the witness made a grizzly set of discoveries i love that from the article the woman stated she heard a female asking for help and begging to use the restroom help help i have to be i've been raped all day and I really have to go.

I'm going to get a UTI over here. Help me out. Please. The affidavit state, she then went to sit down on what she thought was a pile of pillows and blankets. She found after she sat down that under the blankets was the dead body.

She hears this woman begging for help. She doesn't help if she decides I would have finished my pizza and sit out, but she accidentally sits down on the body. I'm the dead guy. I don't know that Heidi thought this one through all that well. She could have put signs up that said off limits, like don't enter or something like that.

that, no girls allowed, that type of thing. Yeah. And with a boyfriend like Carrie running around, that means no girls around. Yeah. Despite Hammond's efforts to prevent her from leaving, the woman was able to flee the home and alert an Indiana state police trooper about what she had seen. Law enforcement officials from multiple agencies were dispatched the location and surrounded the home.

I have audio of her leaving the apartment, by the way. Oh, I'd love to hear it. She wanted to get the fuck out of there. So They found her at the home They arrested her And they said that when they got there Two juvenile teen daughters

Were upstairs in the house as well So they're great parents Nice All the way around Nice Pizza party So I still don't know how Heidi killed anyone And I don't think that she was doing the raping either

I don't know why the headline says That she's convicted of murder and rape Or arrested for murder or whatever it was Well she's definitely in on the charges she's an accomplice sure I think they're trying to be who wrote the article not I think they're trying to be sensational Vinny that's what I think it is

because when you see a woman does something like that you're like whoa that's crazy and it's like as she was her boyfriend and he was in a jealous rage like oh okay well yeah I've seen that before yeah I've read this article before all right yes I've read this old chestnut all right I'll stop making fun of journalism let's move on all right final story

of this week's scum parade Washington okay a father was arrested in charge with killing his five week old infant son yes prosecutors say that he spent weeks intentionally inflicting pain in torturing the child until he died five weeks old and he spent weeks torturing him yeah he didn't really give this kid a chance to grow up back a little bit you know well i mean you would think you'd be like this is a new relationship let's both be on our best behavior let's figure this how this guy's like i don't like this kid right even two months yeah he's not even too much this kid must have come in and just talk

hugged up the titty. Oh, yeah. You know there's a lot of problems going on with that. Yeah. So Jose Rosas Olivio was charged with one count of homicide by abuse and first degree murder in the death of his son. Now, on September 24th, the victim was pronounced dead at 5.55 a.m. Okay. They took the baby to the hospital. The police were... Jose did. Yes. Yeah. Because the baby stopped breathing. Yes. They took the baby to the hospital. but they found that the baby had like a cracked orbital socket and a crack in his skull. So Olivia claims, well, what happened was I woke up at 5 a.m. My son, I didn't see him breathing.

So I performed CPR. And the victim and the baby vomited what appeared to be blood. And the child's mother was asleep. Well, he claimed. Yeah, yeah. Okay, got to do it. This is the best. He dropped his cell phone accidentally and it hit the baby in the head.

No further questions. All right. It was an accident. We got it. No further questions. Oh, you mean your iPhone? It was a one at a million shots. Your iPhone hit the kid in the head and broke his skull.

Okay, yeah, no further questions. Thank you. Yep. Moving along. We're so sorry for your loss. Sorry for your loss, sir. Should we start to go funny for you? I do want to say that they did not arrest him at this time.

They're like, all right, we got it. Thank you. So they start. It worked for a second. Well, they did an autopsy, Carl. Uh-oh, that's. And it showed the linear fraction on the right side of the skull, bleeding under the entire scalp, diffused subdermal hematomal,

hematoma, multiple interior and posterior rib fractures to include several that were broken into places. Kids ribs are very delicate. They break so easily. They bring the dad back in. Yeah, they're like, this is more than just one iPhone landing on them. Did you drop multiple iPhones on them? How many iPhones did you drop on this kid?

Mr. Olivier, did you mean an iPad? Yeah. Could it have been an iPad and a laptop? How about, do you have an old CRT monitor laying around? I don't know why I use that accent. We're in Washington State. Yeah, I know.

He told the investigators, this is what this guy says. He goes, I tried to be a good father in the first few weeks of my baby's life. All right. Well, A for effort. I gave him a few weeks. Put at some point, he quote, no longer cared, end quote, and began intentionally harming the crying baby. Court documents reportedly detailed that Olivia told police in the beginning he would pull his son's hair and ears in order to cause pain and spake him whenever his diaper.

was changed, often hitting above the small of his back with a flat hand. Joseph stated he understood what he was doing was causing pain, however stated he was unaware that it would cause injury. So fuck this guy. Yeah, that's an odd thing to say. Oh, I knew it would like, you know, hurt for a second is what he's, I guess he's trying to torture him. I wasn't trying to kill him.

You think you could wake me up at all hours? You know, honestly, babies are annoying. All right. And while we can read this and be horrified, reading the story, but you and I, don't know that baby. Maybe if we did, we'd understand. Maybe he'd be like, yeah, you know what, Jose? I get it, man. This kid sucked. This kid was so annoying. He obviously was not a cool roommate. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going back to the baby throwing league. Yes. Because this motherfucker admitted that he found himself throwing his infant son into his crib from a height above

his stomach and chest. He reportedly threw the baby so he would rotate in the air like a football. Yes. In a manner Spiral with a five week old in a manner to ensure that the child's head hit the back of the railing or the crib.

Splat! Jesus Christ. Additionally, they said that the bed and the crib was cluttered with toys and objects that the kid would land on. Can we bring this back for Father's Day? I want to revisit this story. This guy.

And he lives with the mom, too. He's waiting. He waits for the mom to fall asleep, and then he starts torturing this kid. Murder him. What an asshole. Why is our son crying all night long? I don't know. He's just fussy.

She's at work, just drinking tons of coffee going, but baby, I'm just so thankful that I have Jose. He's just stayed up all night with the baby. Staying up with him, even though he cries all through the night. He allegedly said that he squeezed the boy. every day, and oftentimes with force so hard that his shoulders would hurt. His shoulders would hurt by squeeze. So, in other words, all the broken ribcage bones, all the broken ribs, that was because

this guy squeeze, like, I'm shut the fuck up, you motherfuckers, stop fucking crying. Stop it. Stop it. I'm not saying he should have done it, but I understand. At least once the child stopped breathing for a period of time, Olivia reportedly said he would wait for the baby's mother to fall asleep, like he said, before he would start this abuse. He is being held on a $500,000.

He's like, stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself. Stop hitting yourself. This little five week old. Oh, it's so fucking awful. This guy fucking murder him, please. All right. Yeah, I'm fine with it.

I'm good with it. I'm good with that. I don't think Washington State has a death penalty, though, if I was to guess. I have a feeling there'll be like, oh, what's let him out in five weeks? I don't get it, please. Cool. So, ladies and gentlemen. That's this week's Creepoff.

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