The Creep Off - Hall of Fame: Jared Fogle Bonus Episode

Episode Date: April 8, 2021

Ladies & Gentlemen please enjoy this very special Hall of Fame Induction episode of the Creep Off. Today we learn all about the rise and fall of disgraced sandwich eater Jared Fogle! Plea...se take a second and join us on Patreon for future Hall of Fame Episodes other bonuses and cool merch! https://www.patreon.com/TheCreepOff

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's going to happen? I don't even know. Today? Yeah, we've never done one of these shows before. This is the first Hall of Fame episode. I know. Oh, Heather W. is here. Hi, Heather W.
Starting point is 00:00:11 She has a creepy true Jared story. Okay. One time Jared was like, hey, blow me. Then he found out she was an adult. She paid Jared's rent for him for years. Hi, Heather. I see what you did there. Yeah, I'm a funny guy.
Starting point is 00:00:26 I'm going to give the people what they want. sensation, horror, shock. I'm going to deliver the goods because I'm alive and I'm not backing down. vomit-inducing thing. Ola, creepomaniacs. I really like that. It's the creep-voff special edition bonus episode. We're putting somebody in the Hall of Fame, Carl.
Starting point is 00:01:11 Hall of Fame episode one. That's it. Welcome. Now, we did some Hall of Fame inductions. Lenny Dykstra is in the Hall of Fame. That guy who fucked the Dolphins is in the Hall of Fame. But about a month or so ago, we put it out there for you folks to submit your nominations for who you felt
Starting point is 00:01:29 deserved to be in the Hall of Fame. We took those, we curated them, and we put them out there for a vote. Here's the man that you picked. Hit it, Carl. Oh. Remember Jared from Subway? He's inspired a lot of people. He's looking
Starting point is 00:01:46 good. Yeah, he is. He'll show you the way. His name is Jared and they'll lead it to Subway. All right, you can kill it. That's a real commercial that one. That is a real commercial. real thing he inspired a lot of people he was walking to subway and all these people were
Starting point is 00:02:02 following him to subway because that's where you go when you want to get skinny a sandwich shop a submarine sandwich shop i've tried it i can't say it works i tried the de bella's diet and uh no go subway eat fresh jared likes it fresh he certainly does i like how we're going to go for those jokes right out of the game living is truth now it's not like we're revealing anything. Everyone knows Jared was a pedophile. They do. They do. So let's talk about something real quick. The style of this episode. Yeah. You know, what we are going to do today is we are going to try to mesh our styles. Carl brought in some Jared stuff. I brought in some Jared stuff. And we're going to just try to have a good old time talking about this fucking creepo for you. Now,
Starting point is 00:02:46 there's more than you realize about Jared. I know when I was doing my research. I was like, I didn't know this. I didn't know this. So even if you think you know the story, you might learn something. It is not fun from the from the get. Are you kidding me? I have nothing but fun doing this. For the first time at the creepoff. This is great. It really is fun. We could collaborate a little bit and, you know, we don't have the competition.
Starting point is 00:03:08 Right. We could just have a little fun. Pretend we're friends for once. Aren't we though? No. All right. Enjoy this episode now before it goes behind the paywall because our Patreon is coming very, very soon, right, Carl?
Starting point is 00:03:22 How are we going to do our Patreon, Minnie? How's that going to be set up? Well, we're not going to plug it all day. We're not going to be obnoxious about it. It's going to be very simple. Just get it out of the way. There are going to be three levels. The first level is going to be the creepo level.
Starting point is 00:03:34 Now, what's going to be fun about that is it is going to be split. You could choose to be a creepo who is a Vianan true believer. Or you could be a creepo who is a member of the-carls-Cuzzlews. You could be one of Carl's Couser-Rose. That's right. That's right. And you can enjoy the bonus episodes every month. Hopefully we can do two levels of the same a dollar amount.
Starting point is 00:03:56 We can. I already checked to that. Okay, great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you can pick one of the other. Pick one of us and then we'll know who's more popular. I love you, true believers. Now.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Cuzzlews! Cuzzaroo! Cuzziru! That's really gross. I don't like it. Listen, the second level is going to be the creepomaniacs. It's 10 bucks. There is going to be a special bonus prize.
Starting point is 00:04:21 We'll announce that when this officially launches. But the $20 level, you are going to be a, member of the scum parade merry marching society oh that is an honor right there it is a high honor everyone should aspire and we're going to do something really fun for the very first three people who become merry marching society members we are going to mail you one of my stuttering john podcast t-shirts from the very first consequence of the creep off you could use it as a blanket you could use it as a fort you could use these things are fucking huge They're huge. I got one right here.
Starting point is 00:05:00 They fit mini very snugly, but they trust me. They do not fit me at all. They're huge on me. Yeah, okay. That's how big they are. Yeah, okay. And you know what else? If you'd like Carl and I will personalize and autograph them for you.
Starting point is 00:05:11 Yes. Who doesn't want an autographed Suttery John t-shirt, autographed by anyone other than Sturnery John? Absolutely. So if you want to become a member of the Scumbrain. Heather W, I see you. Let's do it. I love it.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Get it on this. So I hope you could, I need a new computer. I need a computer Can you tell my lighting's not very good? Can we God, there's so many stupid inside jokes We're doing everything wrong
Starting point is 00:05:36 Yeah, we're the worst So that's the story We hope you join the Patreon Support the show if you can Thanks And the Patreon that doesn't exist yet Oh yeah Please come support this
Starting point is 00:05:44 You're to get this bonus episode The Hall of Fame bonus episode Every month And you're going to get the scum stream Which is going to be a live stream Or I talk to you about All the stories that don't make The Scum parade
Starting point is 00:05:54 And we have a good old time And we drink some cold And I'll do it by a dumpster. Sounds good. Yeah, it'll be perfect. So are you ready to start this up, Carl? Is that all we had to talk about?
Starting point is 00:06:05 Isn't it? I guess. Let's do it. Let's talk about Jared Fogel. Remember Jared from Subway? He's inspired a lot of people. He's looking good. Or the better version of that song.
Starting point is 00:06:19 He's still looking good. Without those sandwiches. Give him to sandwich he is. I love South Park. It's great. So let's talk about Jared, and would it surprise you all to know that he was a fat fucking kid? That's kind of the whole reason why he's famous, because he was a giant fat kid. Well, listen to this.
Starting point is 00:06:43 His early childhood consisted of a relatively normal routine of time with friends and attending school, his mother herself, a teacher. His lifestyle began to change around the age of eight when he became more sedent. Terry. In 1985, the Nintendo Entertainment System video game unit was released to the home market, Fogel spending all of his off hours from school using the console. Wait, are they accusing Japan of creating pedophiles? Because I am telling you, that's why there's so much Asian hate in this country, is because of racist remarks like that. I just hope it takes the heat off of Super Mario. I don't want us Italians getting blamed for it. He was a little fat fuck. He played Nintendo all day. Didn't we all? No.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Expected snacking coincided with the video game play. Wait, where did you get this audio from? It's the best. You're to love it. It's so funny. About 85 pounds to 160 before he was 10 years old. Did you hear that? No, play that again.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I'm sorry. I talked over because I just, the music and the way this guy is narrating this is so overdone. So you could find the full video on YouTube. I pulled some clips from it. I got a bunch of them from there, but not a ton. Do you want to give a credit or anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's the life and the rise and fall of Jared.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Fogel on YouTube. You could find it easily. Okay, great. But the guy's voice was so fucking fun. I do you would enjoy it. So, he said that Jared Fogel from age 8 to age 10 went from 85 pounds to 165 pounds. That's impressive. That's like the growth rate of those kids that are on Mori, the ones where they put the big giant buffet out on the stage. Right. That is a fucking fatso.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I wasn't 165 pounds until like, you know, at least junior high. Right. At least junior high. So here's the thing that's really interesting. His mom's a teacher. He's this fat. The fuck. Check this out.
Starting point is 00:08:35 The most surprising element was that all of this was taking place near the watchful eye of his father, who happened to be a general practitioner. He's a fucking doctor. And he's letting his kid get to be 165 pounds? It's funny that you act like only a doctor would know that's unhealthy. I don't care if the guy worked a Kodak. He should fucking know that his kid should go. run a fucking lap ever. I have no idea what a digital camera is, but I
Starting point is 00:09:00 believe you should lose some weight. Do you like that Rochester reference? Oh, God. My dad worked at Kodak, by the way. I'm sure he did. All the chemicals explain your club feet. Now, you motherfucker. I really hate this town. Carl, a Rochester original.
Starting point is 00:09:25 Between garbage. plates and chemicals garbage plates to turn out with normal teeth all right my child was born without a chid Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:09:37 you're really loading them up over there all right well it's a bonus episode so in his own words listen to this little weird kid Vogel has stated that as soon as his parents would admonish him about his weight and leave the room
Starting point is 00:09:51 he'd sneak further treats behind their backs in his own words I'd have one hand on my joystick and another in a potato chip bag You're not going to win a lot of games Only using one hand on a joystick Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:10:05 You guys as a kid sucked at video games He was not very good But he tried He tried really hard I'm performing this weekend Did I mention that So I gotta kind of get back in the mood No
Starting point is 00:10:15 No comedy club is opening this weekend I got to get back in the stand of mood So let's do a little game here Carl Okay let's do it Jared Fogel was so fat That a junior Start over Jared Fogel was so fat.
Starting point is 00:10:27 How fat was he? By junior high school, Fogel was forced to shop at grown men's big and tall stores for clothing that could accommodate his burgeoning size. So fat that by junior high, he had to go to the men's big and tall shop. Not a lot of designer labels there. I don't see a lot of kids there.
Starting point is 00:10:48 You're not going to have a lot of cool threads if you're shopping at that place. Here's what you're going to look like. A lot of pastel. I thought you're about to stand up. here's here's the thing if you're a big person the only thing that you can wear are wrestling t-shirts yeah right a lot of pastels there's a lot of pastels in the big and tall guy shop and you could look like a fat ass jimmy buffett because they have Hawaiian shirts out the asshole why is this shouldn't they
Starting point is 00:11:12 just have everything to be vertical stripes you would think so you would think they have tablecloths with holes in them like a fat so coozy they call them hey carl jared Fogel was so fat. How fat was he? By high school, his condition had worsened to the point of not being able to fit into a regulation student's desk. Stupid desks. Old back tits can't fit the desk. They're so discriminating.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Listen, I was a fat kid. Did he just sit on top of his desk? Because that would be pretty fucking funny. You know how they had the ones that were attached, like the front part to the chair? Yeah, that's what they're talking about. They had to like rip off the desk part for him to have a chair in class. That's amazing. They had to have one in all of his rooms.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Did he have like two dust, maybe? Like some guys will buy two seats out of the airplane. We put two dust next to each other? No, Carl. Okay. Just asking. Hey, Carl, you want to hear Jared take a shot at a joke? Sure.
Starting point is 00:12:12 In his autobiography, he stated that while most gained the freshman 15, he gained the freshman 100. Okay, it's not a good joke. Also, I'm very disappointed that he wrote an autobiography. He was a spokesperson for a sub shop who gives a fuck about this guy's life. We wouldn't even be talking about him if he hadn't fuck so many children. Well, he did a lot of good things. He did have a foundation. We're talking about that in just a little bit.
Starting point is 00:12:37 That's true. Very charitable man. What happened when he went to college? He had trouble again finding classes, Carl. Oftentimes, Fogel class schedule only after examining if the seats appeared large enough to fit his frame. By the time he was in college. Yeah. 425 pounds
Starting point is 00:12:56 Wow 425 Yeah man That's impressive He should be on TLC He should have been on one of these fucking shows It didn't exist back then He would have been
Starting point is 00:13:06 But you have to give it to him Being 425 pounds made him Millions of dollars What's your excuse What are you trying to wrap up for I'm starting to Patreon Give me time Carl Give me time
Starting point is 00:13:19 Did you know that Tim Dillon Makes you I'm just telling us Did he? On the way over here, I'm listening to Chan Zumach because he's trashed and Chrissy Mayer on this podcast. And he starts up his show by explaining, you should give him more money on his Patreon
Starting point is 00:13:32 because Tim Dillon makes $110,000 a month on Patreon. I'm like, what does one thing have to do with the other? Oh, because you support a funny comedian who has a good podcast, you should also give Chad Zubak money. I'm not sure how that adds up. Anyway, I'm getting distracted. That's all right. So, Carl, let's talk about his time in Indiana University.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Because if you dig deep, you find out he was a creepo in college, Carl. No shit. He was a little bit of a creepo. At Indiana University, Jared ran a black market pornography rental service. Oh, really? Straight out of his dorm room. Well, he could live in his dorm. His porn collection was vast and extensive, people said, and Fogel took his business very seriously.
Starting point is 00:14:17 A video would run someone a buck a day and people would come from all over and they would just rent tapes from this fucking giant fatso. That's interesting. In his dorm. He probably smelled like shit. Because he's in a fucking dorm. I'm sure they have tiny bathrooms. He can't wipe his ass.
Starting point is 00:14:32 Pizza boxes and come socks. He can't fit the fucking shower. Come socks. Pizza boxes. Subway rappers everywhere. So you stepped up by joke and then stole it. I like that. That's a new technique.
Starting point is 00:14:42 That's good. You saw I was trying to say something three times in a row. He just wouldn't stop talking. All right. I'm just saying. You have good chemistry, people. It's all about the chemistry on this show. I could read his mind.
Starting point is 00:14:53 Right. now what he's thinking is white claw i wish log story short he's renting tapes to people and he got so fat he couldn't live in the dorms anymore right yes he was too fat for the fucking dorms yeah so he gets those damn hallways that really fuck you up yeah he keeps getting his arms fucking caught on the door handles trying to swing side to side his wrists are fucking forearms are all bruised as shit because fat people bruises because the circulation sucks.
Starting point is 00:15:24 Don't ask me how I know that. He moves into an off-campus apartment that he's making enough money because he's rented the porn tapes. Sure. So he's baking. He's renting like movies. Creepos are coming over like,
Starting point is 00:15:39 can I get backdoor beauties? He's like, it's a dollar. Whatever the fuck he's up to. Yeah. So he moves in this place and down in the same building on the bottom floor, they open up a subway restaurant.
Starting point is 00:15:49 He's still looking good Eating a subway sandwich is His name is Jared And he's still looking good So there's a restaurant Near his apartment In the same fucking building In the same building
Starting point is 00:16:05 So I'm guessing he's going to eat there quite a bit So his business is out of his apartment And his favorite place to eat is in his apartment Now when he started going to get all the luck in life Don't they? Well, it didn't last So he starts eating at Subway
Starting point is 00:16:20 and his original order was like the steak sub with extra cheese and mayo and oil. How do you know this? Yes. How do you know this? Because I did research and he would go in there and he would just Oh, it's an autobiography, that's right. Yeah, he would stuff his face. Yeah. And he just would go there every single day. And he got so fat
Starting point is 00:16:38 that he couldn't breathe right. He was having all kinds of health problems and his doctor said you need to do something better. So he noticed that they had like healthier sandwiches at Subway. So for a year straight. He ate for lunch a turkey sub with just vegetables, no mayo dressing
Starting point is 00:16:54 or anything like that. A six inch. His doctor had to tell him that he was overweight in order for him to start eating right. Didn't listen to his dad. Jesus Christ. He couldn't listen to his father screaming at him at the holidays. He doesn't fit in his dorm room, but his doctor had to be the one to tell him like, maybe you shouldn't eat so much food every day. Could you imagine be in his roommate?
Starting point is 00:17:11 No! Lots of heavy breathing when you're trying to study. Well, not to mention he's fucking spanking a fucking collection of porn over there. It's going to be the worst roommate ever. Hey, are you watching one of my tapes? How come there's mail on my sandwich? I didn't order it with mail on my sandwich. Oh, Jesus Christ, it's disgusting. That's low hanging fruit. It is. You're an expert. So here's the thing. He starts eating that for lunch. And for dinner, he's having just a vegetable sub, which is basically
Starting point is 00:17:40 bright in vegetables. He was having less than a thousand calories a day for a calendar year. he just walked everywhere because I'm assuming he couldn't fit in a car or on a bus. Can I tell you what's fucking hilarious about that? Yeah. A vegetable sub. Eat a salad. That's why salads were invented. You don't have to have a sandwich.
Starting point is 00:18:00 You don't need to pay someone $6 to get a vegetable. I got to figure out how I'm going to eat a sandwich and I still want to lose weight. I don't have a salad sandwich. Just have a salad. It's fucking idiot. Hit that music. Oh, my God. He's still looking good.
Starting point is 00:18:18 He does this and he loses 245 pounds doing this. This is amazing. And all out of extreme laziness. This was not out of him fucking trying to go out and get healthy. It's literally just the least he could fucking do. What's your excuse? I don't care. My excuse is I don't care.
Starting point is 00:18:39 I don't care. I don't care. My jokes don't go over. I don't care. Everybody, I don't care I don't, he does not care I don't care Somebody ordered me a sub
Starting point is 00:18:53 Now Fogel comes to the media attention in April of 1999 There's an article written about him In The Indiana Daily student Written by a former dorm mate The Indiana Daily student? Yes
Starting point is 00:19:05 Wow, that's impressive Stop the presses boys I got a scoop He was like, yeah My former dormmate lost 245 pounds was the article by exercise and eating a daily diet of Subway Sandwiches.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Fogel then was featured in an article in Men's Health magazine about stupid diets that work. So Subway finds out about this from the Men's Health article and they pick him up and they sign him to a regional contract. So in the Midwest
Starting point is 00:19:33 they were having... They were so excited they're like, holy cow, there's an asshole who thinks you can lose weight by eating sandwiches at Subway. Let's see if we get the rest of the country to believe this nonsense. He did, though. He lost the weight. Well, yeah, but not because he was eating some weight because he was eating fewer calories. Right.
Starting point is 00:19:49 And the other thing is not a place you want to go if you want to lose weight. They had to put like a disclaimer on all of these commercials too. This diet worked for Jared. May not work for everyone else. He becomes very successful on this pilot program that they did because they put him in like regional spots. They did so well. They made him the national spokesman. Subway.
Starting point is 00:20:07 Eat fresh. Can I tell you the reason why Jared caught out as a spokesperson? Why is that? It's that one picture he has next to. his pants. Yep. His pants were so fucking big. It was like almost one and a half of those t-shirts that you wear.
Starting point is 00:20:21 Size 62. 62-inch jeans. Yeah. And you got this guy who still doesn't look great by any means, but he's standing next to those. Now, when you were watching all of these videos of Jared, did you realize who he looks like that's been a guest host on this show? He looks exactly like McBride.
Starting point is 00:20:38 He does look like McBride. Brian McBride is like Jared's doppelgager. Ooh, that's not a good place to be That's coming from me Oh, everybody, it's me Brian McBride Is he here? No, this is my imitation Oh wow, so good
Starting point is 00:20:52 You can hear Brian's talents on Keeps and Roses with me and PJ Episode 5 coming soon Yay I'm fucking done with that shit He gets married at 2001 He is signed to be the major national spokesman for this company
Starting point is 00:21:07 He is getting about $2 million a year From these commercials, Carl You know what's weird about that. Do you think he would have done it for less money? It's not like Burger King was calling him up and trying to go over the bidding war or something. You had to try the Wopper diet. The KFC diet.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Yeah. Popeye's biscuit diet. He puts gravy on everything. Your kids looking good. So in 2004, Carl, he's making $2 million a year. He's a multi-millionaire. Fogel establishes
Starting point is 00:21:41 the Jared Foundation. Yes, he did. A non-for-profit organization focused on raising awareness about childhood obesity through educational programs and tools provided to parents, schools, and community organizations. Enter a gentleman by the name of Russell Taylor. Now, Russell is hired by Jared in spite of his not-so-great credentials to be in charge of this foundation. It was around this time that Fogel would encounter one Russell Taylor, who meet a point as a director of the Jared Foundation in 2008. Taylor came from a sketchy background that included unconfirmed, high-profile jobs, falsified schooling, and two divorces. The only solid point in Taylor's background were stints at the American Cancer Association and at the American Heart Association as a youth marketing director in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:22:30 He gets this job. What does this job entail? He's working very closely with Jared. He would not only handle most of the foundation's fiscal and scheduling components, but he would also begin joining Fogel on his road trips as well. His position in the organization was further cemented when the two stumbled upon their mutual sexual interest in children. What? Did we just become best friends? Yep. How does that happen? How do you let you, I mean, if you are a pedophile and if you are, stop it.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Look at it at you. Stop it right now. Fucking, go fucking buy a playboy, fucking go on board of. Look at adults. Kill yourself. It's what your relationship now. That too. Whatever works for you.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Whatever is best for your situation. Just talking to you, Andrew Ty. Stumb it. Yeah. You're not supposed to tell anybody. How does that come up in conversation? This is a business partner. This is a guy you put in charge of your fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Did you drop your fucking, you know, Kmart circular with the boys swimsuits on the floor? And he goes, oh, what's that you have there? Maybe he saw the username. He was using on the computer. He was like, I've talked to this guy online before. Wait, that's you? Aren't you the one who,
Starting point is 00:23:47 are you the one who sent me the topless eight-year-old? Yeah. Yeah, I remember you. Like, it's so fucking weird. They become, like, best friends, right? Okay. In 2007, he gets divorced, and it's a very weird divorce. His wife leaves him, files a restraining order against him.
Starting point is 00:24:06 At that time, Subway thinks something kind of weird is going on. So they start backing off of the subway. commercials around this time. They start going with the $5 footlong stuff. And you don't see Jared on... Jared did. Instead of putting him on TV, he was the brand ambassador for Subway. So they would send
Starting point is 00:24:24 him to shit all over the world to go open stores, to talk at schools for his foundation, to do all the stuff. So he starts hanging out in Asia, right? Unbeknownst to his wife, Fogel had long since abandoned the marriage in the most
Starting point is 00:24:39 heinous of fashions. For months he had been engaging in sexual contact with underage girls and boys. Fogel would use social media sites to communicate with teenage targets or use escort services that offered underage subjects. He then began traveling within his home state of Indiana for the purposes of meeting minors for the same activities. Right. And now he's going overseas and he's doing miscarred services that supply under it. Can we shut these things out? I hope so. What the fuck? I've never heard that before. I'm looking at you Q. What the fuck. Yeah, get on
Starting point is 00:25:17 it. Get to Indiana. So he's traveling all over the world. He's going to these brothels in Asia. He's hanging out with his buddy. And then around this time, Subway gets their very first whiff that something like
Starting point is 00:25:33 this is going on with him after having a conversation with a franchise owner. His first corporate exposure to his secret life would also occur in 2007 when he'd enter into a discussion about underage sex to a subway franchisee, a woman he began having a sexual relationship with. The woman in question asked about a Craigslist ad Fogel had answered that led to a 16-year-old girl. I can't believe you only paid $100 for her was part of the communication.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Fogel told the woman it was amazing and expressed a desire to watch the woman while she had intercourse. An offer of $500 was made to go through with the act. This lady owns a subway store and he offered her $500 to have sex with a 16-year-old girl in front of him. So he wanted to get caught. Well, this woman is like, huh, I'm fucking this guy and now I'm realizing what a creepy is. What should I do here? Then it gets a little weirder. A second request by Fogel was to have an encounter with the informant's teenage cousin. yeah can I fuck your teenage cousin at that point she gets so weirded out she starts recording him and making all sorts of tapes the woman kept up contact to the point where she felt she had enough material to pass onto subway an ad exec at the corporation is alleged to have received the information but did nothing about it All right.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Subway, on the other hand, says they were never given any of the damning text messages and that the exec in question had not been part of the brand for years. Denial, denial, denial. All right. So I want to go off on a little bit of a tangent here because Fogel's ex-wife actually sued Subway for negligence because Subway knew about Fogel. He was not good at keeping this shit as you're talking about. He was open with everybody about this shit. He talked to a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Yeah. So this is from CBS this morning. McLaughlin says she didn't know her husband of six years was a pedophile. McLaughlin recently filed a civil suit against Subway. It accuses the sandwich chain of negligence. She alleges Subway was notified about Fogel's sexual interest in children at least three times during his stint as company's spokesman. So this goes into it a little bit more. But yes, three times Subway was tipped off about this fucking guy.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Her anger is not limited to her ex-husband. She's now suing Subway for negligence, saying in her filed complaint, that the company was alerted to potential problems with Fogel on three occasions in 2004, 2008, and 2011. The last, where a Florida journalist made a complaint through Subway's website. That lady went to the cops in Sarasota, Florida and reported him, too. Yeah, so real quick, though, as you were talking about, so Subway is being asked after this guy was obviously convicted.
Starting point is 00:28:21 How did you not know about this? People were sending you this information. so Subway went ahead and did an internal investigation. The company told site radar online that their investigation showed no evidence of any prior knowledge of issues regarding Fogel. Oh, they did an investigation of themselves and decided they were innocent? Wow, you don't say. Go figure. The only thing we found over here was delicious sandwiches made with the fresh ingredients.
Starting point is 00:28:48 The only thing we have are healthy hearts. The only thing we have is bread that was baked fresh daily and these delicious sandwiches. cookies. Jesus Christ. You can get them with the fountain drink of your choice for only $6.99 this month. Oh, man. So, there's a footlong of evidence. Someway's doing nothing. And during all of this,
Starting point is 00:29:06 he's just having a good old time. Fogel was also engaging in further rendezvous with minors during his travels outside of Indiana. Several of these encounters, once again, occurred in New York City at area hotels, including high-end establishments such as the Ritz Carlton
Starting point is 00:29:22 and the Plaza. If you're blue and you don't know where to go to. Why don't you go where fashion sits? Putting on the Ritz. He was fucking children in the Ritz Carlton at the Plaza Hotel. Only the best for Jared. Epstein was at the next room, just banging out of the wall going, keep it down. Why is your kid also screaming?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Either way, he's just going around having a good old time. He is incredibly famous at this. point. He's, you know, still being toured around. He was so famous, Carl, that he made it onto W.W.E. Raw. Oh, sweet. Yes, and I got to play you the clip. Hey, it's Brian McRye. Feed me more. Okay. Here's a BMT for you. actor he's thinking to himself right there when he does that little
Starting point is 00:30:34 he's thinking he's saying boy that guy must have hot kids now he probably went fucked a child after this at some hotel and before he was on fucking raw he got to live my dream this fucking guy I hate him so much so he he's just doing all the media around he's he's just beloved around the fucking You know, Vinnie, if you lost 300 pounds, you haven't been able to go on raw, too. Just throwing it out there if you wanted to try that. I couldn't possibly lose 300 pounds. I wouldn't exist.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I wouldn't exist. Just lose 250, Benny. We care about you. He gets this messy divorce in 2007, like he said. And then in 2009, he gets engaged to this woman named Kathleen McLaughlin, who's a teacher. In January 2010, he gets reported in People Magazine that he gained back 40 pounds. And he decides to do a publicity stunt where he is going to go back on his Subway diet to lose the 40 pounds for his wedding. Remember Jared from Subway?
Starting point is 00:31:35 He's inspired a lot of people. He's looking good. No song about Jared should have it. He's looking good as lyrics. That's right. He looks like just a fucking bowl of vanilla ice cream with lips that are just ugh. So here's a fun thing. He ends up having two kids with this woman in August 2000.
Starting point is 00:31:54 He had a child, or a boy named Brady and a daughter named Quinn who was born in 2013. And in 2012, his buddy Russell is running the Jared Foundation. Yeah. Not very well. Around 2012, the Jared Foundation quietly ceased operations, a simple matter of renewing its $5 a year business license not being filed. Tax records show 60% of the non-profits $125,000 revenue went to take. Taylor's salary. No efforts made to keep the foundation active by either Fogel or Taylor. They could have paid off with a foot log.
Starting point is 00:32:33 They could have bought one last fucking footlong. And they could have kept the doors open on the fucking day. But obviously, they didn't really care. Things are really starting to go downhill here, except Jared's like living his best life. He's got the kids. He's traveling all over the world fucking other people's children. And his friend Russell, you know, maybe he should have picked his friends better. Late in 2014, Taylor would make his first proposition to a female friend,
Starting point is 00:33:00 stating his desire to watch her and another woman have sex with a horse on her property. Ah, you fucking killed my sport! Taylor inquired about her interest in her children. Alarmed, the woman turned over her text messages to authorities, who seized Taylor's computer, where indeed images of children between the ages of 9 to 16, were discovered. Some of these even included Taylor's stepdaughter. Yep.
Starting point is 00:33:27 All right. So I had all that shit, but not from that stupid documentary. All right, go ahead. Play it. Who cares? Maybe yours will be better. I thought this was fun because the woman here is known as Jane Doe. She doesn't want to be known who she is.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Would you? No. So this Russell Taylor guy started texting with her and was hitting on her very poorly. He even started a charity, the Jared Foundation, and put his best friend at Russell. Taylor in charge. Jane Doe and Taylor had been acquaintances who struck up a texting friendship, but the innocent messages
Starting point is 00:34:00 soon evolved into flirtatious invitations involving Jane and Taylor's wife. I just assumed that it was just him sending drunken text messages and it wasn't anything serious. I blew him off. But the invites grew
Starting point is 00:34:16 more bizarre. All right, so Jane Doe didn't want to be a Me Too person. She's He's like, all right, he's horny, he's drunk. He sent him in his messages. And then it gets a little crazier. It started out as he wanted to know if him and a female friend could come over to engage in sexual acts with my horses that I had at my property. I didn't take him seriously at first.
Starting point is 00:34:42 But the text soon included graphic images, and Jane knew this was no joke. Yeah, he wasn't being taken seriously enough. So he's like, no, look it. This is what I want to do with the horse. Are you seeing what I'm talking about? And she didn't take him seriously because this first text messages were like, Hi-ho, Silver! He would just text, Giddy Up!
Starting point is 00:34:59 So this is from True Crime Daily. Now, he's hitting on this chick. This is not the right way to go about it. As shocking and vile as those exchanges were, everything changed when Jane Doe received a text that simply went too far. And it would prove to be the first domino in Fogles' downfall. He had asked if I wanted to see any pictures of young girls. I wasn't expecting him to offer child pornography, but he opened up a completely different avenue.
Starting point is 00:35:27 If you're hitting on a girl, sending her CP will not help. It's not a good idea. It's not going to get Cheney closer to the stables. It's not going to work for you. Actually, what it's going to do is going to get you arrested. Armed with evidence gathered from Jane's cooperation, police descended on Russell Taylor's home, where they uncovered something even more twisted. Not only did they find more than 400 child pornography videos and photos, many of them were sexually explicit images of Taylor's very own stepchildren.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Shot on cameras, he'd hidden in their bedrooms and bathrooms. This guy's a fucking creep. This guy that Jared decided to go into business with was a creep. And this is the worst part about this entire story right here. Taylor pled guilty and promptly made a failed suicide attempt while in custody. God damn it. Why did he fail at that?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah, I know. Kill yourself, Russell Taylor. Yeah, if he had killed himself, Jared would have been maybe, maybe in jail for a lot less time. At this point, there's a two-month investigation into Russell Taylor. They're going through all of his stuff. And unfortunately, he had been communicating with Jared pretty much every day. He would just, they would basically text each other pictures of naked children all day long. The two of them were best friends in creepiness. Yeah, by the way, a really dumb idea
Starting point is 00:36:58 when you're a pedophile is to make friends with other pedophiles because when one of them gets caught, they're going to figure out like, why are you hanging out with this guy so much? What's the deal here? If you're, all right, I'm going to throw this out there. I like to give advice from time to time. If you're a pedophile, make sure all of your friends don't fuck children. Be the only one of your peer group that fucks the children. You'll have less chance of getting caught. That's all I got. This is going to show up on Vietnam video any day now.
Starting point is 00:37:29 This leads us up to July 7th, 2015. The FBI and Indiana State Police investigators raided Fogel's house in Indiana. They took computers and other electronic equipment. Ruh-oh. The same day, a spokesperson for somebody announced that the company at Fogel had mutually agreed to suspend their
Starting point is 00:37:45 business relationship. You know what's funny about that, too? These fucking guys, his buddy just got caught and he didn't think I should probably delete and or get rid of any hard drives that I have with CP on them. They're so addicted to the shit. They're like, I'll just keep a few around. They probably won't find that. That's all we had. Karen, that's all we had. He's trying to flushing the CPU. It's everything we had, Karen. The cops come in and he's trying to eat a floppy disk. because he does it all old style because he's a boomer like us so here's the interesting thing
Starting point is 00:38:24 about this right the way the FBI did it they brought in this special trailer right that is like a mobile CP crime lab where they could just take out all of his hard drives at his computers in the house yeah and they could just bring him out there and immediately make copies of everything on the hard drives and like they just go boom boom boom and then they give you the ship back that day so it's almost like a blitzkriek you have no time to delete this shit you have no time to delete this and they will find everything that you did delete unless you, like, bleached the hard drives and smashed everything and did that.
Starting point is 00:38:53 They also just, it's not true. See, this is the thing, and I have to keep telling people with CP about this, when you delete something, it's not actually deleted. Right. You're just telling your computer that I want that space available if I save anything else. If you save shit on top of it, it will be gone.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Just fill your shit with, like, home videos or something or other isotopes albums. And that way, they will not find out of the CP that you thought you deleted, but you did that. or passed episodes of the creep off in WATP. There you go. They also brought in one of three in the country electronic sniffing dogs. Is that a real thing?
Starting point is 00:39:27 That is a real thing. The fuck. What can't be sniffed? The dog goes in and could smell fucking electronics just to search the house in case. Oh, I'm such a stupid idiot. I thought you meant that it would be able to smell if there was CP on the heart drives or not. Oh my God. These dogs are fucking amazing.
Starting point is 00:39:45 What can't they do? Uh, this guy has COVID and, uh, the hard drive over there is some CP. Um, can I hear some Dukashi 6'9 for you right now? Oh, come on, Vinnie. Are you dumb, stupid? Come on, Carl. Oh, really? All the dog is going to, you're the one who said it.
Starting point is 00:40:03 I know. I thought it was crazy. Uh, one of these days, Heather W is to be paying your rent. Fuck it. I have a, I have a mortgage. I don't live. Even an apartment, like some people. I actually have a mortgage for my house.
Starting point is 00:40:20 But go ahead. Followed Fogel's arrest because he was arrested that day. Yes. The FBI subpoenaed the series of text messages made in 2007 between that subway franchisee, Sidney Mills, who he was having the relationship that we talked about earlier. So they got all that information. They got all this information from the lady in Florida.
Starting point is 00:40:39 And at that point, Jared was like, okay, I'll take a plea. That's what he did. On August 19th, 2015, federal prosecutors announced they had reached a deal with Fogel in which he would plead guilty to two counts, one of distribution and receipt of child pornography, and one of traveling to engage in illicit sexual conduct with a minor, specifically Indiana, New York, where he's charged with pain to engage in sexual acts with a 17-year-old girl. Prosecutors alleged that Fogel offered adult prostitutes, also alleged that he offered adult prostitutes finder's fees to find him young kids. So he was sentenced to 15 years and eight months in federal prison and has since agreed to pay a total of $1.4 million in restitution to 14 victims. So 15 years in prison is considered a pretty light sentence. And not only that, he didn't go to like fucking the ass prison. Well, hold on.
Starting point is 00:41:37 He did it first. Yes, he did because we're going to talk about that. Okay. The first prison they set up to before he went to his, to his major one. Yeah. Hold on. Let me play the story for you. I have it right here if you don't mind. Do it. Do it. So this is from local Denver news. This is the brother of an inmate who was with Jared in that prison. I love this. Good job, Carl. Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:59 Behind these walls at the Englewood federal prison, Jim Nigg tells us how his brother, Steve, beat up Jared Fogle. What those guys do, Jared included, that's the worst of worst. The former subway spokesperson is serving out of 15 years. sentence, convicted of having sex with minors, using his celebrity to feed his addiction. That's where Steve Nigg had a problem. He's serving a 15-year sentence for a federal gun crime. He bothered him anyway. You look at it, but yeah, I'm sure that's not, it's not fair. It's not equal. Nick sold off firearms from his deceased father's estate. His criminal passed from the 1970s made that illegal. He told his brother Fogel's sentence and demeanor inside the prison walls sent him over the
Starting point is 00:42:44 When you run through the yard in the prison with special privileges and you hire people, maybe the inmates to back you up to make sure nobody touches you, that's even worse. So Jared, child molester, goes to prison as being a big shot. He's throwing his money around. He's buying friends. This guy's in prison for the same amount of time because he sold off. His dad's guns. He's inherited. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Guns the inherited. And he's like, motherfucker, I will murder you. And he beat the shit out of him, which is amazing. Yeah. I love that. But of course, now he's in a prison with other sex offenders. I saw a video where a guy sends letters to prisoners and then gets letters back because prisoners are bored. If you want a pen pal, send one to someone who's locked up in prison.
Starting point is 00:43:33 So this is a letter that this guy bad is called Stories from the Penitentiary. Penitentiary. Okay. How do you pronounce that word? Penitentiary. Perfect. Put you saying it over me in post and that people won't make fun of me. So anyway, this...
Starting point is 00:43:49 That'd be a weird pitcher. This is... This is the guy reading the letter that he got back from Jared. My first reaction to arriving here was that it wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Prison sucks, but this is a pretty easy spot. Over half of the guys here are sex offenders. I get along with pretty much everyone here. once the guys realize how sensationalized
Starting point is 00:44:15 the media made me in who I really am I fit in quickly So basically he's hanging out with a bunch of Russell Taylor's in there They're all sharing stories And they have this place that he went to Has a craft A craft place, a gym TVs for all the inmates
Starting point is 00:44:32 They go to the library and get books and watch movies Speaking of TVs He explains the one thing he doesn't like about television I miss real food watching restaurants TV commercials is like watching food porn to us, LOL.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Oh, poor guy has to see commercials for restaurants he can't go. He shouldn't be L-O-Ling over anything that has the word porn in it. He's right of you learn to it guys. It's like food porn,
Starting point is 00:44:58 L-O-L. Get it? Because of my child porn addiction. Get it? Yes. We get it, you fucking creep. You think Jared sits there in prison with all the guys around him
Starting point is 00:45:08 and like a commercial come on for a restaurant. He'd be like, I'd do it better than that He's still looking good There's a former journalist in Florida, Rochelle Herman Walrond And what she was doing was messaging back and forth
Starting point is 00:45:25 With Jared And she's the one who gave his information To the Sarasota police and the FBI Yes And she recorded all their phone conversations And pretended to be going along with it In order to What is it? Entrapment
Starting point is 00:45:38 And now ladies and gentlemen We will hear from the man himself So she went on Dr. Phil and played the audio of these phone calls. Here's the first one I want to play for you. Let's try to figure out what is getting bleeped out here. I couldn't find the uncensored version of this, unfortunately. So listen closely. Ooh, I love a game.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Listen closely. Let's see if we can figure out the context. Yeah, I suppose I'm in the middle school. I love the middle school and the girl starting the kid, you know? Yeah. Because you know how much I love to get a shit. You know, I love you to shit. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:46:09 Yeah. Yeah. What's that? Well, you know, kids are maturing faster nowadays. I know, what I love. Oh. Was he saying boobs? He was saying tits.
Starting point is 00:46:21 He was going, they develop their tits. They're going to develop tits. What kind of pedophile cares about tits? I love big tits. I love big tits. I love big tits on a child. Look, that kids got boozelems. Sorry, sorry.
Starting point is 00:46:36 Sorry. This is my dad. You know, just talk to them, just get to know them, just everything, and just you know do a little touchy feeling things with them you know make it feel good and it's a little more touchy feeling a little more touchy feeling a little more touchy feeling there's that kind of stuff yeah okay i think that would be amazing what what age seems to be the easiest you know i don't know i think you know early middle school apply one of the best.
Starting point is 00:47:12 Yeah. You know, they don't have to come or go on. Mm-hmm. And I can see you a little bit of six, seven-grader. You know, I'm this... Six or seventh grader. He ended it with hold on. I'm going to take a bite of this delicious chicken,
Starting point is 00:47:29 bacon, ranch sub on honeyweed bread. He's still looking good. Hey, I got a question for you. Fucking them kids. Hey, Carl. His dick looks big in comparison, because they're wonderful. Hey, Carl, I got a question. Yeah, go ahead.
Starting point is 00:47:43 What do you call somebody who's an adult who comes over to meet a child home alone after a sexually explicit conversation? What is that called? That's my question. That's a good question. A fogle. All right, a couple more clips from this woman's appearance on Dr. Phil. Oh, he's so icky. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Dr. Phil, you mean? No. I agree. Yeah, all of them. he at one point he called me and was telling me about a six year old little girl and that he was flying over to see her and from the way the conversation was going it sounded as though the parents were okay with this well yeah he's got subway spokesman money of course they okay with that he gives up a couple of those buy one get one that's the kind of guy you want to set your daughter up with you can do worse what do what does he think this is like in a rain they think it's It's an arranged area. Like they're to get a subway dowry. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Jesus Christ. You know, in the old country, we'd get a cow. Now we asked to get the cow after it's been cooked with some vegetables on at mayonnaise. Delicious steak subs. Then she asked Jared a very important question. One that we should be asking all pedophiles. What turns you around the most? Like, the young girls or the young boys?
Starting point is 00:49:04 You know, both of them do. They do? How are they? Both of them. So he likes both young boys and young girls. You know what he later admits? Yes, I did sex him up a little bit. He's so gross.
Starting point is 00:49:17 So I've been playing the clips from when Jared was featured on South Park. Now, this was season six. This was before South Park knew he was a pedophile. So the jokes were about how he lost the weight with AIDS and they beat it into the ground. Actually, it's like beating a dead horse, I believe, is the punchline. But anyway, they featured Jared in the video. video game fractured butthole. And they got Jared with a few
Starting point is 00:49:42 funny gags here. So this is, he's one of the bosses and there's a fight scene between the South Park kids and Jared. And here are some of the fun quips that he has. You like it, rough? Me too. Because they're fighting. Oh.
Starting point is 00:49:56 There's this one. How do kids like to see my famous footlong? Footlong joke. And then, uh, the last one here, which I think is the best joke. You got my pulse. I want to see if we can all squeeze into my before picture pants?
Starting point is 00:50:14 Sweet Jesus. I thought that was fun, so. Now, here's a couple things. Society needs to know. This man is eligible to get out of prison in 2029. And when he does, he'll... He's still looking good. Eating that prison food.
Starting point is 00:50:35 Yeah. Supposedly, he's living the life in prison. he's got his own kitchen where he cooks his own meals they're saying that he's nice and fit he's really like living it the fuck up in prison and ladies and gentlemen even though the man has been incarcerated for the last six years
Starting point is 00:50:51 he is still according to the internet currently worth four million dollars now at the peak of his career he was worth approximately 10 to 15 million he was earning 2 million a year as a spokesman and a motivational speaker he reportedly paid his ex-wife 7 mil in the divorce. He had to pay
Starting point is 00:51:10 some millions to the attorneys, I imagine, and he's sitting around 4 mil, sitting in prison. Well, he's probably got all that book money coming in, too, from that autobiography that people just can't put down. Who the fuck would read that? Even if he was at a pito. Who the fuck would read it? Well, that's so a point.
Starting point is 00:51:25 It was written before anyone knew he was interesting. Yeah, so, ladies and gentlemen, our first inductee on a bonus episode into the Hall of Fame. Subway. Eat Fresh. Jared Fogel. Awesome job.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Vinny, I want to do something that we should not do at all. Good. Let's take some notes. What was good about this, what was bad? What could we have done better? How was this going to evolve over time? Did you like the format of this? I think we should do it where you talk less, but other than that, I think it was all right.
Starting point is 00:51:53 That's a good note. That's a good note. Should we compare notes ahead of time more so that we don't fuck each other up in our story arc? How does that work? I think we only had one little, one little flub there. Okay. Ladies and gentlemen, we want to know your opinion What you thought of the show?
Starting point is 00:52:08 No, we know. I'm asking you. I don't want to know these fucking assholes. I don't want to know what they have to say about it. Email Clubfoot Carl at wATP.org. Now, folks, ladies and gentlemen, he's losing his shit over there. We want you to send us your submissions for who you think should be nominated into the Creepoff Hall of Fame next.
Starting point is 00:52:32 And we'll put out another voting. opportunity for you soon for our second episode. But help us out. Throw us a couple bones. And by the way, this is not going to be the only type of show that we put on Patreon. That's right. We're going to do the scum stream. And we're also going to do, I'm working on getting some people who actually fight the pedophiles on a daily basis. Yes. They do some interviews with us. Yeah, Vinny gets into this a little more than I do. But also, I think we talked about doing a WATP creep-off crossover. That's right. Who are these creeps? Who are these creepos?
Starting point is 00:53:06 WATC. WATC. So we're excited about this. This is just one of the types of shows you'll be hearing the Hall of Fame episodes when you sign up for our Patreon, which will be available very soon. Hopefully by the time that we put this out so that the call to action is there and people can actually do it. I love it. So we hope that you will join us on Patreon for future Hall of Fame episodes.
Starting point is 00:53:27 Until then, it's nice to be important. It's more important to be nice. Gagia! Vin your clue You know where to go to Why don't you go? Missing on the rips Vinny, you miss the obvious joke here
Starting point is 00:53:54 Which one? From Uncle Sammy Pooh clubbed footlong Carl This is stupid What? Did we just become best friends? Yep!

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