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When Shaka Smart recruits players, he gives them a 26-page culture document that outlines
exactly what his program stands for and
who they are striving to be as a team.
It details what will be expected of them, how they'll train, how they'll treat their teammates, how they'll carry themselves on and off the court.
It is detailed.
It is specific.
It's non-negotiable.
We say that culture is simply how we act, interact and respond.
That's it.
Shah, as Smart explains. That's it.
Shah, a smart explains.
So you can stuff it up on the wall, you can have a culture doc, but if it's just words
on paper, it doesn't really matter.
Our job is to bring it to life.
This as Epictetus said is actually the job of the philosopher too.
When the standards have been set, the work of philosophy is just this,
to examine and uphold the standards. But the work of a truly good person, Epictetus says,
is using those standards when we know them. So yeah, look, it's great that we read meditations,
or letters from a Stoic, and discourses, or even the Daily Stoic, or these emails. It's great that
we do our journaling. It's great that we do our journaling.
It's great that we underline passages, that we take notes, that we save quotes.
It's great that you're listening to this podcast, but if it's just words on paper
or a screen or in our earbuds, it doesn't really matter.
We have to bring it to life.
Epictetus also said that we don't explain our philosophy, we embody it.
He was saying, don't talk about it, be about it.
The whole point of Stoicism is what you do.
It's about who you are.
It's the act of virtue, not the act of talking about virtue.
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I'm pretty good with my money
I don't live outside my means but I have one very
Expensive habit a habit that if I'm not careful will cost me everything
What I'm talking about is anxiety
and nothing in my life costs me more than it.
Nothing has taken me out of more moments.
Nothing has caused more fights.
Nothing has stressed me out more.
Seneca says, he who suffers before it is necessary,
suffers more than is necessary.
That's why I say anxiety has cost me so much.
It has caused me so much unnecessary suffering.
And in today's video,
I wanna share the best stoic advice to confront
and then discard your anxiety
so you can live a life of clarity and peace and purpose.
One thing that's never changed about the world
is how much of it's out of our control.
Two thousand years ago it was largely out of the control of all the Stoics.
Even Marcus Aurelius, the most powerful man in the world, most things are not in his control.
When we have a way we'd like things to go, we know they might not go that way.
What does that create?
That creates anxiety.
And so for thousands of years the Stoics have been dealing with this thing that you and
I are still dealing with today.
We get nervous, we worry, we have anxiety, we have fears and dread.
Mark Surilis in Meditations talks about how he had a good day because he escaped anxiety.
And then he actually corrects himself. He goes, actually no, I didn't escape it. I discarded it because it was within me.
He's realizing that he is the common variable in all the situations that cause him anxiety, just as you are.
Anxiety is within us, so we want to work on it and think about it so it doesn't rule our lives or ruin our lives.
This is my little reminder here. This is an anxiety coin I carry. It's a little fidget.
And it's got some stoic reminders on it. And that's because even now, even after all these years of studying philosophy, I still deal with anxiety.
All these years of studying philosophy, I still deal with anxiety.
Whenever Epictetus saw someone
who was in the throes of anxiety,
he tried to think about what they were after.
He said, if a person isn't wanting something
outside of their control,
they'd have no reason to be upset, no reason to worry.
I think that's an interesting way of thinking about anxiety.
The cause is never the thing itself.
It's our desire, our expectation, our concern
that things need to go a certain way
or we're not gonna be okay.
As a parent, what do you want?
You want the world to always be okay
and nothing to ever go wrong for your kids,
which of course is not something
you can ever possibly make happen.
When you're traveling, what do you want?
You wanna get there on time, you want nothing to go wrong.
But again, not only is that not possible,
we know that things go wrong and most flights are delayed. For a nervous investor,
you only want positive returns. You want things to go well, and that's not gonna happen either.
The market goes up and down. Having goals is fine, having standards is fine,
but getting worked up, getting excited, biting your nails,
torturing yourself because you need it to go that way is a
recipe for misery. If you can cut free of the impressions that cling to the mind,
Marcus Aurelius writes in Meditations, free of the future and the past, you can
make yourself, he says, like a sphere rejoicing in its perfect stillness. Now
that's an ideal. I don't get there all that often, but when I am there, when I've
stopped trying to make things go a certain way, when I can practice acceptance, I am happier. I am more at peace.
Seneca was famous for practicing poverty. He would wear his worst clothes, eat simple foods,
starve himself a little bit. He'd really like slum it for a day or two,
supposedly as often as once a month.
Now, why was he doing this?
On one hand, it was to toughen himself up,
but really it was a psychological exercise.
He wanted to, as a wealthy, successful person
who had a lot, he wanted to familiarize himself
with losing all of it.
He wanted to be able to stare poverty in the face and say,
is this what you were so afraid of? Because that's what can happen in life. The things we possess
become the new status quo and then we're worried and anxious that we're going to lose them. And so
the thought exercise of going, okay, what would it actually be like to not have them? There's a
Zen story about a cup and the Zen master is saying to himself over and over again, the cup is already
broken, the cup is already broken. So he doesn't become so attached to it
that he fears losing it
and thus doesn't actually enjoy it while he has it
because he's so petrified of something happening to it.
And this is the sort of relentless anxiety
that a lot of successful people have.
You'd think they'd be comfortable and feel awesome
and feel like they have enough,
but in fact, they're just petrified of losing it.
Seneca says slavery lives beneath marble and gold.
Inside the palace, it looks so wonderful and appealing on the outside
it's actually a lot of anxiety and stress so he's trying to familiarize
himself with losing it so it would lose its power over him.
There's a great Latin expression basically it means it is solved by walking.
Things rough at home go go for a walk.
Your kid's having a tough time, take them for a walk.
Struggling with a big decision, go for a walk.
Feeling antsy or anxious, go for a walk.
As a parent, walks are magic in relationships.
Walks are magic.
If you're a creative, walks are magic. If you're a creative, walks are magic.
Whatever you're dealing with,
whatever you're going through, walks are magic.
Seneca said, the mind must be given over
to long wandering walks or it'll break the way
that that hammer eventually breaks against the anvil.
We go for walks, we get outside, we get moving,
and we're amazed at the problems it solves.
There's a tension in Stoicism. So on the one hand Seneca says we should imagine all the things that could possibly happen. This is premeditatio malorum, it says the unexpected blow lands heaviest. If
you're just naively going through the world expecting everything to be wonderful, never
considering that this might happen or that might happen, you're gonna be caught off guard
and it's gonna rattle you and hurt you worse
than if you had some ability to anticipate this.
At the same time, he says,
he who suffers before it is necessary
suffers more than is necessary.
He was talking about the way that we can sort of spiral
and catastrophize.
So it's important when we think about
this premeditation of Maloram,
the stoic idea of anticipating and considering
what happened, it's not to torture ourselves.
It's not just to go down this spiral
of negativity and doomerism.
It's to think proactively.
I'll give you an example.
Napoleon said that three times a day,
a general should say to themselves,
what if the enemy appeared over here?
What if the enemy appeared over here?
What if the enemy appeared over here?
He wasn't saying that he just wanted his generals
to be really anxious and worried all the time.
He was having them run through the thought exercises,
if this happens, I'll do this.
If this happens, I'll do this. If this happens, I'll do this. If this happens,
I'll do this. So when we think about this stoic practice, it's not just for generalized
anxiety or worry. It's constructive. Okay, if this happens, here's what I'm going to
do. If this happens, here's what I'm going to do. It's focusing on how we might respond
to this. So it should actually be empowering in some way, as opposed to disempowering and scary and alarming. You're thinking here are
the constructive things I can do about these hypotheticals. I believe that I have agency and
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Later, you'll laugh about this. Later, you'll see it with some perspective.
Later, it'll make a good story.
Later, you'll see how it was good for you.
Later, you'll see how it got you where you are now.
The problem is now you're upset about it.
You're torturing yourself about it.
You're worried about it.
And that's why Mark's really said that
you don't have to let this upset you,
you don't have to turn it into something.
You can just let it be what it is.
You can just let it happen.
You don't have to add this sort of injury on top,
this stress that you're feeling in the moment,
working yourself up about it.
You can just let it be, just deal with it, just go with it.
You can just let it be, just deal with it, just go with it.
Don't seek for things to happen the way you want them to happen, but want them to happen the way that they have happened. Wish for them to have happened the way that they did. That's epic tea.
He obviously precedes Nietzsche by a couple thousand years, but you know Nietzsche had this idea of
amor fati, right?
Amor fati, it translates to a love of fate.
So instead of needing things to be a certain way,
instead of simply accepting them as they are,
Nietzsche and Epictetus say that human greatness,
human happiness is in loving things as they actually are.
Saying this is the way that it's supposed to be,
this is wonderful that it is that way,
it was chosen for me.
And this isn't even necessarily to say
that you just accept the world as awful and unjust
and you never try to change it,
but you say, no, no, no, it was set up this way
so I could be who I am capable of being inside of it.
That's what this reminder of it means to me.
Marcus really talks about how what you throw
on top of a fire is fuel for the fire
that turns it all into flame and brightness.
That's what we're talking about.
Morifat means that you embrace life as it is.
You embrace situations as they are instead of fighting them, instead of running from
them, instead of resenting them, even instead of just tolerating them.
You love them.
That is the path to happiness and to greatness. Rome would have been a dirty place, a dark place. Rome was a violent place, smelled terribly,
it's noisy. But for all that, we can imagine Marcus Aurelius, we could imagine Seneca,
we could imagine Epictetus enjoying that special wonderful time
of day we now call golden hour.
That few minutes in the morning, in the evening,
when the sun is at just the right angle,
when everything baths in a rosy goldness.
And we can imagine that whatever was happening in the world,
whatever was happening in their life,
however frustrated or annoyed or depressed
they might've been,
catching a glint of that and smiling.
Seneca said, the whole world is a temple of the gods.
I always feel that at golden hour.
Mark Shrew has talked about how when you stare at the stars
and you imagine yourself up alongside them,
that it was enough to kind of wash away the dust of life.
I think golden hour does that.
Everything shines for a brief moment.
Everything is beautiful and soft.
The sun's rays are at just the right angle.
It doesn't matter what's happening in your life.
It doesn't matter what's happening in the world.
Golden hour is something special and we should appreciate it.
And there's nothing in Stoicism that precludes us
from enjoying the beauty of that.
Mark Sears actually talks about this in Meditations. He says, what doesn't transmit light creates
its own darkness, but to get out in nature,
to enjoy golden hour is a way to bathe yourself in light,
to cleanse yourself, to experience the world
as Seneca tried to, as a temple of the gods.
And to not see that, to not enjoy it,
to not appreciate it despite everything that's happening
in the world is a very dark existence indeed.
It may be reasonable that you're concerned about this thing.
It would cause trouble if it happened.
Again, so when the Stokes talk about how some things
are in our control, some things are not in our control,
what they're saying is, well, focus on what you control about this situation.
Reminding yourself that, hey, just feeling anxiety, emoting about the problem, biting
your nails about it, talking about it incessantly to people, it's not making it any more or
less likely to happen.
So try to put that energy to constructive use.
Try to think about, okay, here's what I'm going to do, here's what I can do, here are
ways that I can influence this situation or at least prepare myself to be resilient or endure or
Bounce back from it if it does happen put yourself to constructive use put yourself working on something that makes a difference
Just make sure you're not confusing
Spending mental bandwidth and energy and torturing yourself emotionally don't confuse that with making a positive difference.
There's a story about Cleanthes,
one of the ancient Stokes,
and he's walking through Athens one day
and he sees this man talking to himself,
you know, the way that we all do it,
like, what's wrong with you?
You idiot, how could you be so stupid?
You know, that sort of negative self-talk
that sometimes when we get so frustrated,
so disappointed in ourselves,
we can't help but break out into.
And Clanthes stops and he interrupts the man and he says,
hey, I just want you to know
you're not talking to a bad person.
What an amazing interruption.
What a great kindness to do a stranger.
I think we can imagine somebody doing that for us.
The next time we get really riled up, the next time we get really upset with ourselves just to
remind ourselves you're not talking to a bad person you're talking to you you're
not talking to a bad person. Life is difficult enough it's hard enough you
shouldn't suffer imagined troubles Seneca says. That means don't borrow suffering. Don't get scared, worried, annoyed, anxious in
advance of something that may or may not happen. That doesn't mean you're naive,
you think everything's gonna go your way. You do have a plan for the worst-case
scenario, but that's different than torturing yourself in anticipation of
something that perhaps the odds are only 50 50 of actually even happening
What people say what people do the things that happen these things can't upset you only your opinion about those things
Can upset you the events are objective. It's what we make up about them. It's the story we tell ourselves about them. It's that we say we've been insulted or offended
or transgressed against or harmed.
That's the problem.
It's not things that upset us, Epictetus said.
It's our opinion about things.
Look, it's a bad use of your creativity.
The time you're spending imagining what might happen, the conversations you're making up
in your head, the things that you think people are thinking about you.
This is a bad way to deploy your creativity.
You're using it to make yourself miserable.
You're imagining these terrible scenarios.
Notice you're never imagining things going well, people liking you.
You're putting your imagination to work on your anxiety, on your self-consciousness,
on your doubt, and it's just not a good use of it.
The Stokes would say our mind is this incredibly
powerful thing.
How are you going to deploy it?
How are you going to use it?
Are you gonna use it to torture yourself?
Are you gonna use it to move yourself forward,
to solve problems or create them?
["The Greatest Showman"] No amount of philosophy, Seneca says, or to solve problems or create them.
No amount of philosophy Seneca says takes away our natural feelings or inclinations.
I still get nervous before almost any talk.
I have anxiety, I have nerves.
One of the things I've been doing lately,
I have this cool stoic coin
in that it's kind of a fidget and I just spin it.
I like to touch, it's got a hole in the middle
and I just touch it like this.
It has this quote from Epictetus on the front.
"'Is this in my control or is this not in my control?
"'Is this up to me or not up to me?'
That's the essence of Stoic philosophy.
Mark Sturrula says that we have to remember
that thing is not causing us anxiety.
We are causing the anxiety in ourselves.
It's within us, which means that we can let it go.
We don't have to give ourselves over to it.
And so that's just one of the little things
I remind myself.
You have to remember, stoke philosophy
isn't this magical thing that removes all the flaws
and problems and urges and temptations we have inside of us.
No, it's framework for working through them.
It's a set of tools for dealing with them.
That's how I think about anxiety
and that's why I carry this with me.
Look, things are gonna go sideways.
People are gonna say things.
People are gonna do things.
There are definitely gonna be problems in life.
Things that you don't want to happen are going to happen.
That is how it goes.
But remember the Stoics say,
it can only harm you if it harms your character.
If it changes who you are,
if it makes you vindictive or resentful or lazy
or entitled, if it makes you worse as a person,
then you have been harmed.
But people don't have the power to make us worse
as human beings.
That's something we control, that's within us.
So who we are in response to what happens,
that's where the harm can come from,
but it's also where the benefit can come from.
Can only harm you if it harms your character.
That's the essence of stoic philosophy.
It can only harm you if it harms your character.
And we decide whether this thing degrades us or improves us.
We decide if we harm our character
in response to what has happened to us.
You're being crazy letting them determine whether you did a good job or not, whether
you're happy or not, whether you're a success or not.
Merck's rule says ambition is tying your happiness to what other people do and say and think.
Sanity, he says, is tying it to your own actions.
It's like when I work on my books, the writing of the book is up to me.
How it does on the bestseller list,
what people think about it, what the reviews say,
and that isn't up to me.
So my definition of success is an internal one.
I'm focused on the parts of it I control.
Do I want other people to like it and care about it?
Sure, I guess it's nice to have, but it's extra.
It's not why I do it, because to need it is to be insane and of course incredibly vulnerable.
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