The Daily Stoic - BONUS | Camila Cabello: “Stoicism Changed Everything for Me”

Episode Date: December 11, 2025

How does Camila Cabello stay centered in the chaos of fame?  Today’s bonus episode brings back an evergreen lesson from her Daily Stoic episode that’s worth hearing again.🎥 Watch ...the full conversation between Camila Cabello and Ryan Holiday here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jqOlJuvIdU📚 Books mentioned: Stillness Is The Key by Ryan HolidayEgo is the Enemy by Ryan HolidayThe Obstacle Is the Way by Ryan Holiday👉 Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing to The Daily Stoic Premium - unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content: https://dailystoic.supercast.com/🎥 Watch the video episodes on The Daily Stoic YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us:  Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:56 Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we bring you a stoic-inspired meditation designed to help you find strength and insight and wisdom into everyday life. Each one of these episodes is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men, and women help you learn from them, to follow in their example, and to start your day off with a little dose of courage and discipline and justice and wisdom. For more, visitdailystoic.com. with Stokes talk about which is like what good is success if the result is that you don't feel like you're in charge of your own mind or your own life like how how is that success exactly and that's like not what this society we as a society are taught and actually so much of I feel like healing is being like what of this is like what I actually want and what of this is just like what everybody
Starting point is 00:02:22 else is doing and I'm doing it because everybody else is doing it like that you know And stillness is the key, like that really resonated with me. Like, what's your definite, and ego is enemy too? And it's like all of these questions about like, what is success to you? Like, is success being famous and having these awards? And I feel like it's especially unnecessary teaching nowadays because I have like, you know, my little cousin who's like eight years old and I'm like, what do you want to be when you grow up?
Starting point is 00:02:50 And she's like, I want to be TikTok famous. And I'm like, it's like these values of like, no, what's important is, you know, how content you are with your life, like the level of of gratitude that you experience. Like, most importantly for me right now, like the connections that you have with your family and your friendships and your community and your purpose, like you're, I genuinely do feel like my purpose is in art, you know. I don't think I actually, even though it's always been my passion, my favorite thing to do,
Starting point is 00:03:23 like I feel like in the past eight months, I really was like, oh, know, this is like what I want to do. You know, like this is like what I feel like my, my purposes. And it's like not doing it for any outcome of like being famous or success or what people think of you, which it can subconsciously, like, I know, I mean, I can only speak for myself. But like, even when you don't say that to yourself, like, I've never been like, I want to be the most famous.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I want to be number one. I've never said that. But I remember like reading ego is the enemy and being like, but then at the same time I go to do a writing session and I care so much about what these people in the room think of me. Like I'm like so insecure and afraid and like that's ego too because I'm still not doing it for the right reasons. Like the the right reason is to tell my truth. That's it. Period. There's a great Marcus Realious quote.
Starting point is 00:04:22 He says, we care about ourselves more than other people. He says, but we care about other people's opinion more than our own. Right. I love that quote. It's so true. Like you pour yourself into this thing, doing it the way that only you want to do it, you know. And then all of a sudden it comes out. And then what you're thinking is like, did other people say it's good or not?
Starting point is 00:04:44 And sometimes you need a project. I did a book a few years ago, this book called Conspiracy, which I think is my best book, but it's sold the least well out of all of them. It didn't like fail. it just didn't do maybe what it could have done. And what was really freeing about that experience was it totally decoupled, like, critical success and sales for me from, like, what I know is good.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And that's like, it was such a huge breakthrough. It was such a huge breakthrough for me when I saw, like, a couple months ago, I was, I was like, you know, I read Ego. I read Obstacles the Way, like, I think, like two years ago. And I, for my second album, I read a friend. of mine gave me that book. And so I read it and it told, I remember like reading it and then for the next like two months while I was reading it, like my writing sessions were like amazing because everything, even even my own insecurity and my own like fear, I was kind of using it
Starting point is 00:05:43 to fuel. You know, I was doing that that stoic teaching that I love so much, the Amor Fati, the taking everything and and even the bad stuff and loving that. that it happened, not just accepting it, but being like, oh, I'm going to use this now. And that's the first time I read that book. Then, like, two years later, I read Stillness is the Key. And that was actually when I was, that was like a year ago, actually. That's when I was going through the height of my mental health crisis. And that really impacted me.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And then during quarantine, I read, ego is the enemy. And I started really getting into stoicism and I got like the Daily Stoic Journal and I was reading the daily Stoic videos. And one video that really resonated with me was the one where you're talking about how Stoics define success and the internal scoreboard and how it's like there's success that's like, okay, how many views did this get, how many likes did this get, how successful is this song or this album going to be? and that's all the things that you can't control. So if you measure success like that or what other people in the room think of me, then you're going to be unhappy your whole life. But if you change your definition of success,
Starting point is 00:07:05 which I've really been practicing when I've been writing for this album, if I changed my definition of success to how honest was I today, how vulnerable was I today, how, you know, did I show up completely as myself, was I kind to people, you know, was did I see people? Did I make this a fun experience for everybody in the room? Like if I just focus on what I can control in this moment, then at the end of every day, I was like, it was a successful day. Even if I did feel anxious or nervous, I was like, my metric of success was, hey, guys, I feel a little
Starting point is 00:07:42 nervous, you know, and I was truthful. And therefore, I met with my like standard of success. And it's like, that's so much more important. Like, it's so much more important. to be the person that you want to be and lead with that, then like how other people perceive you or what people perceive you. Like that's like what I love about soicism and like what I feel like is going to be my philosophy of life forever is like, which it wasn't before. Like I feel like I was leading with what I was doing instead of who I was being. You know, it's like, you know, I was, I just like now I'm so conscious of like me being.
Starting point is 00:08:22 you know, brave and courageous and kind and, you know, and truthful. And my character comes before any of the things that I do. Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to The Daily Stoog podcast. I just wanted to say we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes. in the couple years we've been doing it. It's an honor. Please spread the word, tell people about
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