The Daily Stoic - Finding Calm – Chapter 3 from Nancy Sherman’s “Stoic Wisdom”

Episode Date: July 25, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoke podcast early and add free on Amazon music download the app today Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoke each weekday We bring you a meditation inspired by the ancient Stoics something to help you live up to those four Stoke virtues of courage Justice temperance, and wisdom. And then here on the weekend, we take a deeper dive into those same topics. We interview stoic philosophers. We explore at length how these stoic ideas can be applied
Starting point is 00:00:38 to our actual lives and the challenging issues of our time. Here on the weekend, when you have a little bit more space when things have slowed down, be sure to take some time to think, to go for a walk, to sit with your journal, and most importantly to prepare for what the week ahead may bring. Hi, I'm David Brown, the host of Wendery's podcast business wars.
Starting point is 00:01:02 And in our new season, Walmart must fight off target, the new discounter that's both savvy and fashion forward. Listen to business wars on Amazon Music, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another weekend episode of the Daily Stoke Podcast. You may have heard my interview several weeks ago with the great Nancy Sherman,
Starting point is 00:01:26 who is formerly a professor of ethics at the Naval Academy, and I now believe that she is at Georgetown University. She is a longtime writer and thinker about stoicism. Someone whose works have been influential and helpful to me. She was just nice enough to give me a blurb about my new book on Courage. When I read her new book, Stoke Wisdom, Inchant Lessons for Modern Resilience, I thought this is exactly the kind of thing I wanted to bring to the podcast. So I asked if I could pick my favorite chapter from the book and bring it to you guys.
Starting point is 00:01:59 And she and the publisher were more than willing to oblige. The audiobook is published by recorded books. and this chapter is about finding calm. She talks about writing the book during the pandemic, how to overcome internal and external obstacles with physical training and mental discipline, as we've talked about many times. This is what Stoke philosophy is for. How do you stay calm amidst chaos? It's easy to stay calm on a beach somewhere. How do you stay calm when the world is falling to pieces?
Starting point is 00:02:27 How do you stay calm in the midst of overwhelming difficulties? And how do you operate then when it's really called for at a high level of excellence and elite performance? And if you can do this, you can sustain yourself through just about anything. And the Stoics were, when the Stoics talk about peace and fulfillment and happiness, they meant inside a world, not unlike the one that we're in now. So I feel like today's episode is very fitting and I can't wait to bring it to you.
Starting point is 00:02:57 You can check out Nancy's book, Stoic Wisdom, Ancient Lessons for Modern Resilience. This is the audiobook, which as I said it's brought to you by recorded books so check out the audiobook on audible anywhere books are sold you can also get the physical edition anywhere books are sold and be sure to check out my interview with Nancy on the podcast as well. Lesson 3 finding calm Lesson 3. Finding calm Stoicism in the time of a pandemic I am writing in the midst of a raging pandemic. We are under siege.
Starting point is 00:03:41 When it will end is hard to predict. But one thing is certain for me. It is a time to test the full promise of stoicism. COVID-19 has lurched us into worldwide war against an invisible enemy, for which we have little armor. I have written about war for over three decades as a non-combatant, but this is a war in which we are all combatants with an enemy. We are in this war together, the global community that the cynics and the stoics all good. We are interlocking pieces of a larger puzzle in terms of protection and social behavior and lightened leadership and clear messaging,
Starting point is 00:04:17 financial markets, travel, supply chains, and crucially, testing, treatment, and the race to develop an effective and safe vaccine that can be equitably distributed. We want outcomes, but day to day we want ways to lower our anxiety as we worry about exposure to the virus, how to break out of loneliness, the vulnerability of healthcare workers and others on the front lines, the limits of access to hospitals and the availability of lifesaving equipment. We face our mortality
Starting point is 00:04:53 squarely in a way many of us have never done before. It is a moment, if not to be stoic, to use stoic tools wisely. We do what we can to be prepared. The public message from the chief infectious disease doctor of the National Institutes of Health, Anthony Fauci, is that preparation has to be strategic. Fauci, with his plain speaking Brooklyn accent, is a consummate communicator who, not unlike Epochetus, knows he has to reach a lay public with memes that catch. When you are dealing with an infectious disease, you know, you always have that metaphor that people talk about. That weighing retzky, he doesn't go where the puck is, he's going where the puck is going to be. Well, we want to be where the infection is going to be, as well as where it
Starting point is 00:05:46 is now. That is, we need now to be acting as if we are already facing the future. We have to be proactive, not just reactive. We have to anticipate. Pre-rehearsal, anticipation, learning how to dwell in advance, vividly imagining future evils as if now present are key to the stoic approach of mitigating anxiety. Know the enemy you might be fighting. Don't be caught off guard. Applying these tools to the COVID-19 scenario. Run simulations, understand the potential trajectory of a pandemic,
Starting point is 00:06:27 and then heed the warnings. The Trump administration's Department of Health and Human Services actually ran such a simulation from January to August 2019, code named Crimson contagion. code-named Crimson Contagion. The warnings were not heated. In stoic terms, there were extensive high-level pre-rehearsal exercises, but they were not taken seriously by those in power. The bottom line is that we failed to be prepared at both an individual and systemic level. A pandemic is a colossal crisis. It is hard to anticipate something of its magnitude, and hard to coordinate an enduring effective global response. Still, one lesson it has taught
Starting point is 00:07:16 is that surviving is a coordinated community project. Yet part of the popular appeal of stoicism, especially in the online community, is in its treasure trove of lessons for self-sufficiency. Here's popular advice from Epochetus. Yes, my nose is running. And what have you hands for, then, is it not that you may wipe your nose? Epochetus's surface point is, don't complain. Some put the stress note on self-reliance. Take care of wiping your own nose and don't wait for someone else to do it for you.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Many generalize the point as a univocal stoic theme that is all purpose. But human self-sufficiency on any honest conception is relational, dependent at all levels on support from those whose help we often don't acknowledge, or whose dignity we don't always properly respect. The notion of interconnectedness has deep, stoic roots, as deep as any themes of self-reliance. Marcus Aurelius puts it this way. Beings endowed with reason, constituted for one fellowship of cooperation, are in their separate bodies analogous to the several members of the body in individual organisms. The idea in this will come home to you more if you say to yourself,
Starting point is 00:08:47 I am a member of the system need of rational beings. California Governor Gavin Newsom, in his early shelter-in-place order to all state residents, put forth a message that echoes not just Marcus's sentiment, but words. A state as large as ours, a nation-state, is many parts, but at the end of the day we are one body. There's a mutuality, there's a recognition of our interdependence. He went on to say that we have moral duties, anchored in our sociality. The lessons in this chapter are about stoic techniques for mitigating anxiety, but stoic insistence that we are socially interdependent will always be in the picture as foreground or background. We are
Starting point is 00:09:38 woven together by a common bond with scarcely one thing foreign to another. Marcus writes, telegraphing Zeno's image of a cosmic city. Our preparedness to face the present and future depends on our own will and the will of others in coordinated, well-informed, and cooperative efforts. A more stable happiness. Still, it is hard to square the stoic idea of social connectedness with their view that our vulnerability rests in things precisely outside our own virtue. The stoic promise is to stabilize happiness through stable and reliable good character.
Starting point is 00:10:26 That too was what the stoic's great intellectual predecessor Aristotle was aiming for. But Aristotle insisted that good character alone was not enough for happiness. We need, in addition, resources, opportunities, means, and friends for exercising virtue in the world. Otherwise, as Aristotle put it, happiness would be compatible with passively being asleep for the rest of your life, and with the greatest sufferings and misfortunes. Yet, if happiness is virtuous activity, and thus depends on things outside your control, both for its exercise and full promise, unlock children who don't predecease you good political
Starting point is 00:11:14 leadership and more. Then as Aristotle himself admits, you and trust to chance what is greatest and finest, and that would be a defective arrangement. Still, to deny common sense and hold that you could be happy tortured on the rack, or lose some thirteen sons, as Brian supposedly did during the Trojan War, without suffering a reversal of happiness, is pushing matters too far. And so Aristotle, it seems, had an unstable position. Happiness included both inner and outer goods, but just how to order them in a good life so that things outside your control don't derail your happiness, was never fully
Starting point is 00:12:01 resolved. Aristotle likely held that the matter couldn't be formally resolved. The decision rests with perception. We discern the particulars, and take up matters case-by-case. We settle with how things are, for the most part. It is foolish, he insisted, to look for the kind of precision in ethical theory that you would demand from the demonstrative proofs of a mathematician. But this didn't stop the story from wanting more precision and brighter stripes. At the very least, they wanted to secure happiness and tranquility for the fully virtuous and provide guidance for a path of progress. If it required forging new concepts and coining new terms, so be it. Clunky machinery wasn't an obstacle if the end goal was tranquility.
Starting point is 00:12:55 External goods, the stoics go on to argue, are categorically different kinds of goods from virtue. In fact, they are not real goods. Here the Stoics appeal to Socrates, who argued that virtual loan is necessary and sufficient for happiness. Possessing such things as good health, stable and sufficient income, good friends and family, enlightened political institutions and communities, social esteem and respect. Oves are not themselves part of happiness, the stoics teach. They grant common sense, and say these are things that in general we are naturally attracted to as human beings.
Starting point is 00:13:39 They are preferred. Their opposites are things that in general general, we naturally avoid. They are dispreferred. But they insist that their presence or absence can't make or break happiness. They are not just externals. They are indifference. They do not make a difference to happiness positively or negatively. The rub, as we shall see, is that they still play a substantive role in our lives. Indeed virtue involves wisely selecting or rejecting them. The view is challenging, no less an ancient times than now. But one thing crucial to remember is that the term indiferent, at the aphora, does not
Starting point is 00:14:27 mean indifference. We are, by birth and breeding, neither indifferent to these goods or bads, nor should we harden ourselves to become so. Still, learning to live in a stoic way requires fundamental recalibration of values. In particular, we need to learn behaviorally and not just intellectually that preferring or dis-preferring goods or beds involves going for them or avoiding them in a way that isn't filled with restless yearning or panicky aversion. So not only do the stoics have a different valuation system, for what we might loosely call inner and outer goods, they also carve out a distinctive kind of approach and avoidance
Starting point is 00:15:16 behavior that is meant to inculcate calm. We go for things without sticky, inquisitive attitudes. We reject things without fearful avoidance or anxious dread. Learning how to cultivate these new attitudes is part of stoic training. And the striving, critical to stabilizing that new value scheme is itself a stoic way of life. So while the sage may be too exalted a model, the human turned divine, the sage arrived where she is through strategies for minimizing what's outside her control. And those are strategies, the stoics teach, for all of us to adopt.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Some things are up to us. Ascent to impressions. Still, what do we say about our clutch on life for fear that our children might pre-decease us? Or worry about a pandemic and a death toll that has taken more American lives than lost in battle in all of World War II. What do we control when we act with discipline to stoic self-control?
Starting point is 00:16:34 What do we let go of? Stoic self-control begins by drawing a line between our psychological faculties and what lies outside. Epic Teasus famously opens the Incaridian this way. Some things in the world are up to us, while others are not. Up to us are our faculties of judgment, motivation, desire, and aversion. In short, everything that is our own doing. Not up to us are our body and property,
Starting point is 00:17:07 our reputations and our official positions. In short, everything that is not our own doing. Many of us would protest right off the bat at where the line is drawn. Even if we can't fully avoid disease, penury, ignominy, loss of career or office, many of us can do some things some of the time to protect our health, material means, and so on. Epictetus grants that, but at some point, he argues, our armor and efforts, even that of the most privileged of us, will be no match for natural or human
Starting point is 00:17:46 made misfortune. That is Epic Titus' core claim. We are all hostages of fortune in some way or other. Fine. We can grant him that. But we still might object that there is no hard line between controlling what is outside and what is inside. What's inside is vulnerable.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Our capacity for judgment might be impaired by traumatic brain injuries or an aging brain. Our cravings not in line with what we want to want. Our fear is pathological phobiaias rooted in psychological syndromes we wish we didn't have. Equally there are epistemic biases. What we see may be tainted by implicit bias, and what we judge to be the case may be less hour-doing than the product of privileged standpoints and access. This is, of course, a modern view of the psyche and of knowledge. The stoic view, by contrast, is radically volitional.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And their claim is that the range of our willpower is expansive, and its work empowering. With effort and choice, we can turn our gaze inward to monitor stubborn patterns of attention. Through a modern stoic lens, these might include cognitive or epistemic biases. I explore this application later. The locus of control on the stoic view is our ascent to impressions, or how things seem to us from the sensory input from outside and from within.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Ascent is the mechanism by which we tacitly say ye or nay to that input. It is the moment of basic control in judgment, motivation, desire, or aversion. So we may ascent to a perceived insult as an evil that is distressing, or to disease as a perceived threat to be feared, or wealth as a perceived good to be desired and acquired. Each of these is an evaluative judgment, an acceptance that what appears is a good or a bad. In the case of evaluative judgments that are emotions, such as anger or fear, the evaluations are umphi. They engage us effectively and impel us through impulses or hormi to action. They are motivational. Horror me is the cognate of our word hormone.
Starting point is 00:20:26 And like that organic substance, it stimulates action. But it does so through the meditation of the mind. Seneca explains it this way. Anger is undoubtedly set in motion by an impression received of a wrong. But does it follow immediately on the impression and break out without any involvement of the mind? Or is some ascent by the mind required for it to be said in motion? Our view is that it undertakes nothing on its own, but only with the mind's approval. Emotion is
Starting point is 00:21:03 thus a kind of voluntary action. Through ascent, we implicitly frame and grasp the world propositionally and act on the resulting opinions or judgments. Emotions involve agency. Epictetus insists that with agency comes responsibility. It is not things themselves that trouble people, but their opinions about things. So whenever we are frustrated or troubled or pained, let us never hold anyone responsible except ourselves, meaning our own opinions.
Starting point is 00:21:41 The idea is intuitive. We are inveterate interpreters at the most basic level of perception. Seeing a penny, to take a simple example, as having three dimensional depth, when we really only see its two dimensional face. We wear lenses of all sorts, to sort and shape, and construct and categorize the world. And so too, when it comes to categorizing goods and bads and how they affect our happiness. We always see and assess from what philosophers call an epistemic standpoint. As we said, we are not always free spontaneously to choose those standpoints.
Starting point is 00:22:26 How we see maybe the result of others' impositions, sometimes invisible, hidden persuaders, whether through the work of advertising agencies or social bots, corrupting and election. How we see or interpret situations can also be the result of systemic and profound forms of domination. So, a woman's crippling sense of shame as a rape victim may be someone else's opinion that she has internalized. The work of patriarchy and shaming runs deep. Similarly, a young altar boy's fear of the pedophile-ake priests continue to assaults, may get muted by the priests, sacred robes, and his avancular role at the Sunday Family Table.
Starting point is 00:23:16 The inner world can be a socialized construct, and it isn't always an enlightened place for freedom or peace. Yet it may be a place of retreat when external forces give few other options. The young boy finds safety in his mind, even if through psychological dissociation. Subordinated or in captivity, we push our will to the limit. This is epictetus's stance. A person enslaved and in bondage can still find inner freedom. It is what so inspired US Navy's senior POW James Stockdale in his seven and a half years
Starting point is 00:23:56 of imprisonment, two and a half years of which were in solitary confinement in the Hanoi Hilton in North Vietnam. Epictetus's handbook was his salvation, stocked Dale and I met several times, and talked about the torture he endured. He came to embody for me what it was to live as a stoic in the most extreme conditions of deprivation. Epictetus is politically disenfranchised. If there is any freedom it has to come from within.
Starting point is 00:24:31 That is his political reality, or at least it is the formative conditions of his early life. His stoicism is a response to it. The situation is different for other stoics. Sanika becomes a public servant, par excellence. He is politically enfranchised, powerful, and in the most elite inner circle as Nero's minister. But he wasn't always in public favor. Recall his exile in Corsica for some eight years under Claudius, and under Nero, he knows well the cost of voluntary retreat.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Retirement from the work of the Commonwealth needs justification, public and private, and not just the sort that makes theoretical research its own kind of public action that serves the common good. Seneca's concern about retreat voiced in many of his writings serves as guidance for our own times when public servants choose or are forced to retire because of evil or corrupt political leadership. In On Leisure, Seneca aims to align his views with the orthodox stoicism of Zeno. Whereas the Epicurean say, the wise man will not engage in public affairs except in an emergency.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Zeno says he will engage in public affairs unless something prevents him. The exemption rests on special circumstances as Sennaika, a state too corrupt to be helped or wholly dominated by evil. Nero is not far from the page here, as Senaika eases himself out of public service. Forced suicide on Nero's orders will soon follow. Seneca gives us a clear eye view of the systemic constraints that surround personal control and endurance. In this same essay, he underscores the point, the hindrance is not in the doer, but in the
Starting point is 00:26:38 things to be done. We live in commonwealths, local and cosmopolitan. We work within the local commonwealths through the externals of power and office until we can't. Ascent to impression itself has limits in giving us freedom, we can push the limits out fairly far, but again, we are constrained by access to input, implicit bias, as well as our own intellectual curiosity and defiance. Mental control can hit barriers, even when we are not suffering dementia or neuropsychological
Starting point is 00:27:16 disorders. Still, the Stoics have promising tools for greater empowerment. But that said, we need stoic exhortation and discipline to push the boundaries outward, whether those boundaries are internal or external. With a scent to impressions as a starting point, let's turn to other specific stoic techniques for self-control and how we can best implement them in our lives. Physical training and mental discipline. Recently, I found myself on a physical therapy table doing exercises for a rotator cuff tear,
Starting point is 00:27:59 exacerbated by too much swimming. While doing my boring 30 times three shoulder abductions with a dumbbell, my physical therapist, Chris, asked me what I do for a living. I'm a philosopher, and I'm writing a book on stoicism, I said. His face lit up. I now had his full attention. Got a quick message from one of our sponsors here, and then we'll get right back to the show. Stay tuned. Chris is a well-built athletic guy who trains hard and treats folks like me as well as serious athletes. He tells me he's listened to Tim Ferris' podcasts on
Starting point is 00:28:42 stoicism and has also read a Ryan Holiday book on stoicism. He tried listened to Tim Ferriss' podcasts on stoicism, and has also read a Ryan Holiday book on stoicism. He tried listening to Marcus Aurelius' meditations on his commute to and from work, but it wasn't exactly a gripping yarn. Too many disconnected snippets. Yep. He replied, it jumped around too much. So he went back to podcast sunstoicism.
Starting point is 00:29:08 The philosophy really appealed to him. When I asked why, it became clear that it had to do with the idea of hard training in discipline. Building strength or regaining it in the face of injury is what he teaches and coaches. Transferring strength and stability exercises to a different arena, made perfect sense to him. In my own case, he had told me that the natural wear and tear of a mature body, plus repetitive overuse is what did my shoulders in. Psychologically, we face the grind of wear and tear daily. The mind, no less than the body,
Starting point is 00:29:47 needs healthy exercises to mitigate the impact of injury and heal trauma when it occurs. Chris and I were on the same page. Epictetus casts physical training as a model for overall mental discipline. Whatever means are applied to the body by those who are exercising it, may also be valuable for training if in some way they aim to desire or aversion. He then warns that the point of a toned body or psychological toughness is not to build a fan base. If their aim is mere display,
Starting point is 00:30:25 these are traits of a person who has turned to externals and is hunting after something other and is seeking for spectators to exclaim what a great person. Training is for the purpose of discipline, not adulation. It helps build character
Starting point is 00:30:44 and is a sign of the effort and striving of aspiration. Prerehearsal of Bands One of the better known stoic exercises for finding calm is pre-rehearsing future evils or bads. Anticipate the traps that lay ahead. Don't pick out off-guard. The exercise goes back to the early Greeks. Cicerole approvingly quotes a fragment from Euripides. I learned this from a wise man. Over time I pondered in my heart the miseries to come, a death untimely, or the sad escape of exile, or some other weight of ill, rehearsing so that if by chance some one
Starting point is 00:31:26 of them should happen I'd not be on ready, not torn suddenly with pain. Eurepides, he says, in turn, takes a lesson from the pre-secretic Anxagras, who, legend has it said when his son died, I knew my child was mortal. The stoics turned the teaching into a premeditation exercise, regularly rehearsed potential future evils to mitigate the shock of accident and tragedy. I don't think I have ever uttered Annexagoras' remark in an undergraduate lecture on stoic ethics without my students being horrified at the message. They roll their eyes in disbelief. It's cold and callous. They say, they can't
Starting point is 00:32:13 believe I'm expecting them to take stoicism seriously. If that's what it teaches. It says if I told them then and there that their parents don't love them, or were willing to abandon them at any moment. It takes a lot of backpedaling to make the stoic message appealing. I typically do. And I begin with the fact that the stoics and especially epictetus went in for shock and awe. He clearly succeeded. Still, the gist of the message I suggest is quite humane. We shouldn't run from the fact of our mortality.
Starting point is 00:32:51 But to stop running from that fact takes work. It takes daily pre-rehearsal and a willingness to actually think about potential losses. The stoics claim that if we do, we can mute some of the freshness of a sudden loss. The Greek term here for fresh is telling. Prosphatos can not nearness in time, but rawness as in freshly slaughtered meat. We need advance exposure if we are to weaken the visceral raw assault of close-up losses. The technique, presumably, involves more than just an incantation of words. I always knew my child was mortal. Dwelling in advance may take immersion in imagination, but also some humor and love.
Starting point is 00:33:43 When my mother, Beatrice Sherman, was in her mid-90s and in a nursing home, I often thought about how we would talk about death. She was healthy, but I knew the end would soon come, and I knew her well that she wanted to avoid talking about death at all costs. She wasn't a talker at the best of times. When I asked her about a book, she read three or four novels a week. I was lucky if I got out of her—it was fine. That was her standard response. Fine. Life was fine, she wasn't a complainer. But she was into denial of death. And so at some point I decided we would have to make a joke of it.
Starting point is 00:34:27 I would ask every show off and as we talked about how much she liked the Hebrew home and her caregivers and friends. Remind me, Mom, we didn't sign up for the immortality plan, did we? Because if we did, it's going to be really expensive. She would smile gently. She was very beautiful. And she chuckled a bit. Of course, she never said the words, I always knew I was mortal. But she thought the idea. She couldn't talk about death.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It just wasn't her style. But I think our little repeated pre-rehearsal, our joke about the immortality plan, made her last days easier for both of us. We shared our mortality, and we shared not dreading death together. My mother died just three days after we danced together. She and her wheelchair and eyes swirling her around with other couples on the dance floor at the nursing home. She had been coughing a lot the week before, and we both knew that the end might be near. The antibiotics weren't working. The nurses
Starting point is 00:35:40 weren't monitoring her closely. We spent the last day together in her room facing death together. Our little whimsical joke about the immortality plan was preparation. She for leaving this world, and me for saying goodbye, and that it was going to be on my mom's terms. Fine. Prerehearsal, as I've intimated, is a form of pre-exposure, a desensitization ahead of time. If events don't occur, then we take it as a gain.
Starting point is 00:36:18 In the case of death, the question is only when. There are contemporary clinical parallels to the notion of pre-rehearsal. Some may be more familiar with exposure techniques that work on desensitization after the fact. Clinicians have for sometimes successfully used evidence-based prolonged exposure, PE therapy, after the fact, to reduce post-traumatic stress disorder, PTSD. PE is a form of cognitive behavioral therapy, CBT, itself with roots in stoicism. During which patients confront, in vivo or through imagination, situations or events that are reminders of traumatic situations, though now experienced in safe settings.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Through repeated approach, rather than avoidance, the fear responses deconditioned rather than reinforced. Take the case of military service members exposed to the constant threat of improvised explosive devices. Survival depends on quickly responding to those threats, but the fear response can become overreactive. Hyper-vigilance is adaptive in a war zone, but not always after war. At home, when thunder claps are heard as gunfire, fresh bumps on a pavement read as newly planted
Starting point is 00:37:45 bomb sites, a black plastic bag on a lawn, a hiding place for an explosive. Reexposure to stressors by talking about them, seeing them in virtual settings, and revisiting and processing memories in a relationship where there is trust and safety, become a way of deconditioning both the avoidance response and hyperreaction. The neutral garbage bag on a lawn or new bump on the neighborhood road over time loses its associated negative valence. In more recent studies, researchers have begun to investigate pretreatment exposure. Attention bias, or to cast the idea in stoic terms, the patterns in our ascent to impressions,
Starting point is 00:38:33 is modulated by balancing focus between threat and neutral stimuli. The idea is to learn to shift attention, so that we develop perceptual and cognitive resources for focusing not just on threat, but on neutral situations. Research suggests that advanced training of this sort in shifting focus between threat and unthreatening stimuli reduces anxious hyper-vigilance, characteristic of PTSD. In a related research experiment, Israeli Defense Force combat soldiers in units likely to face potentially traumatic events were exposed to attention by a modification training sessions.
Starting point is 00:39:19 Through computer programs, they were trained to attend to threat in an attempt to enhance cognitive processing of potentially traumatic events. The idea is to make the response to stress, cues, adaptive and agile. Elevate the response in the cutely threatening situations in combat, but train it to be transient so that it recedes in safe circumstances. Again, we can put a stoic gloss on this, train in advance to withhold an appropriate ascent to impressions of threat by laying down alternative patterns of ascent to impressions of calm and safety. Of course, stoic standards of what is and isn't appropriate won't map onto what most
Starting point is 00:40:07 of us commonly hold to be appropriate or adaptive. The devil is in the details of how we interpret the doctrine of indifference and what will count as wise selection. But the general stoic idea of preventive exposure and training and what we focus on in our environment is prescient. The stoics go on to suggest that pre-rehearsal may reduce the compounding effects of secondary distress, or as Cicero reports, the distress that we were caught off guard might have been able to prevent what happened. Of course, hindsight bias could be magical thinking. Attendancy, after the fact, to overestimate our ability to predict
Starting point is 00:40:53 an outcome. Should haves and could haves can be grandiose ways of misattributing responsibility. Sometimes, they are ways of coping with grief or survivor guilt. As I learned in my work with military service members returning from deployments in Iraq and Afghanistan, we tend to take moral responsibility in order to make sense of what seems senseless. In the case of service members, many replaced flukish luck with failed moral agency. Moral injury, the extreme moral distress of real or apparent moral transgression, as agent, victim or bystander can result. Conscientiousness becomes overwrought and anguished.
Starting point is 00:41:42 But moral conscientiousness needn't always be anxious. Many ways of being prepared and being responsible for being prepared are far from irrational or overwrought. They are what good people do to take care of themselves and others. This is in sync with stoic notions of taking preparation seriously at a personal and societal level. Still, stoic pre-rehearsal, if it focuses on the glass half empty and not half full, can seem a recipe for inducing anxiety. Reducing future distress comes at the cost of increasing present distress. We ruminate about worst possible cases. Imagine how we would react to bad news, become preoccupied with adversity and loss. We are in battle mode before there is a war to fight. But again, there are good and bad ways of being cute-minded, strategic thinking, risk analysis, long-term
Starting point is 00:42:47 planning, and coordinated and collaborative efforts, all are ways to mitigate disaster that help reduce the emotional overlay of individual debilitating fear or depression. They are not necessarily ways of being alarmists, but ways of being realistically prepared. Anticipating a natural or medical disaster is a collective enterprise, managed by institutions, but anticipating profound personal loss is something else, and each of us has different resilience levels to do with a psychological, social, political, and historical factors and more. Epic tea suggests that we can train for personal loss by gradually increasing the stakes.
Starting point is 00:43:36 We move incrementally from rehearsing small potential disturbances to great ones. In the case of everything that attracts you or has its uses or that you are fond of, keep in mind to tell yourself what it is like, starting with the most trivial things. He suggests we start with a jug. If you are fond of a jug, say, I am fond of a jug. Then if it is broken, you will not be troubled. Again, the advice makes no sense if it's just a verbal incantation, tacit, or expressed. Let's try to fill it out.
Starting point is 00:44:14 We give ourselves advance warning. I say to my husband, as I recently did, I really adore this Richard Watterham large-fluted cellot-on-croc. I'm going to be really upset if either one of us breaks it. What's unsaid, but both of us are now queued up to think, is, let's be careful. And that might lead to a conversation, again, half-tas-at-half spoken, about whether it's the end of the world if it breaks. It's meant to be used.
Starting point is 00:44:47 Storing the bread in it now is a perfect use for it. We'll be really careful. Why have it if we don't use it? And if it breaks, well, it breaks. Maybe something like that is what Epictetus is inviting us to rehearse. It's all too fast in his formulation. But we're not at his lectures in real time, milling around with other followers, analyzing and interpreting. We're doing it now, some 2,000 years later. We're trying to imagine rehearsing loss at the same time as we think about recalibrating
Starting point is 00:45:23 our values about what really matters, we are trying to test how stoic we are. Epictetus then widens the sphere of practice. If you go out to bed, picture what happens at the bathhouse, the people there who splash you or jostle you or talk rudely or steal your things. Remind yourself about what you might expect. The case, again, hits close to home. I often think about going to the Y at the end of the day for an outdoor swim, in winter and summer, and in winter, a post-swim warm-up in the hot tubbersana. But the locker room is often crowded with screaming teens coming in from swim team
Starting point is 00:46:09 practice. Are they going to be there today? Is it a practice day? Did I time my visit just right? If they're there, it's not what I want at the end of a tough day. But now, if I'm listening to a Petitas, he's telling me, if at the outset, I say to myself, I want to bathe, but I also want to keep my will in harmony with nature. That is, in sync with how things turn out. Then, I'm less likely to get angry about what is happening.
Starting point is 00:46:41 It makes sense. I will have given myself an advanced talking to. I'm armed. If the swim team girls are giggling and gossiping at high volume, then it won't be what I wanted initially, but I may be better poised to adjust expectations. Epictetus then graduates from triflings to what's most pressing in our lives. The nil familiar anecdote gets embellished. When you kiss your little child or your wife, say that you are kissing a human being. Then if one of them dies, you will not be troubled.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Wait. This is a steep progression, from a broken jug to the loss of a loved one with an unruly throng at the bathhouse I'm wearing between. Pre-rehearsal may give you a perspective on mortality, but to think that it avert's grief suggests both the worst parts of stoicism and psychologically unsound ways of dealing with loss. Is there a way to humanize the view? The following may help, even if it doesn't soften the view.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Stoic mental preparation involves working one's way up to tough tests that we might face, and know we would, if only we had forward divine like knowledge of how things will unfold. Some of those future scenarios and counterfactual reactions to them, if this were to happen, then I would blank. We might now find outright distasteful. Explains Epic Teedus. Crycipus was right to say, as long as the future is uncertain to me, I always hold to those things which are better adapted to obtaining the things in accordance with nature. For God Himself has made me disposed to select these. So, if I knew I was destined to be ill, I'd have an impulse to be ill.
Starting point is 00:48:45 And, too, if my foot had a mind, it would have an impulse to get muddy. That is, what are now dispreferred in difference? Might, in another context, be preferred and appropriate to select. Seeing that we do not know beforehand what is going to happen, it is appropriate to adhere to what is by nature more suited for selection. Of course, we don't know what it is to adhere to what is by nature in the absence of knowing nature's full secrets and how and when they will be disclosed to us. But what we can do is train to be adaptive and prepare ourselves for the worst,
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Starting point is 00:50:03 toll. Know the attitudes that travel with disaster, anxiety, dread, massive sorrow and grief, loneliness, this location, a sense of an empty future, and know the sources of comfort and support. There is no way we can be immune from psychological distress. Nor would we want to be. Moreover, any armor that claims to fully protect is a scam, a fool's errand. Still, there are stoic lessons we can learn about possible ways of minimizing and managing distress, both on a personal and institutional level. And the app of pre-rehearsal is at its core. Try to make hardships that are distant and almost unthinkable, real, and proximate.
Starting point is 00:50:55 And then imagine best responses in those hard cases. What is a path forward? That's a way to humanize the account and update it for our times. Are there other stoic techniques for mitigating emotional distress? Hedges and reservations. In addition to pre-rehearsal, the stoics teach us to frame our plans and intentions in a way that mentally prepares us for the possibility that things might not work out as we'd like them to.
Starting point is 00:51:30 They advise this technique. Tag on to your intentions, or as they say, impulses toward preferred indifference, a tacit mental reservation, if nothing happens to prevent it. We can think of a strategy as a way of hedging bets. Things may not work out. Always think of what you want as tentative. Here's Seneca illustrating the mental technique. Say to yourself, I will set sail unless, Nisi C, something interferes.
Starting point is 00:52:06 I shall become Prater, a Roman magistrate, unless something thwarted. My business will be successful unless something interferes. Epictetus invokes a similar idea, reminding his listeners about effective ways
Starting point is 00:52:23 to modulate attitudes toward indifference. Given we are not sages, what is up to us, which it would be fine to desire, is not now present to you, and use only impulse and aversion, but likely, and with reservation, and in a relaxed way. Epicetists' points are compressed and in stoic idiom. The justice is, as non-sages, we don't yet have stable access to fine or noble desires directed at the only real good virtue. Instead, what we have at our disposal are impulses and diversions directed at indifferent. In going light on those impulses, we avoid excess and strain, the ache of yearning and the anxiety of panicky avoidance.
Starting point is 00:53:19 Mental reservation adds the thought like that of the cautious beather of the public bathhouse. It may be noisy there. Re-adjust your expectations. What you find may not be what you originally hoped for. Elite for Century BCE stoic, Aeus Dittimus invokes a similar idea from the old stoa. They also say nothing, contrary to his desire or impulse, occurs in the case of the worthwhile man, because he does all such things with reservation, and nothing adverse befolds him unforeseen. But what exactly is the advice here? Should we always qualify impulses so they become failed proof? Impulses on this re-imaging
Starting point is 00:54:09 come with built-in cushions, a bit like car airbags that inflate upon impact in an accident, formulated in the right way. Impulses ensure psychological immunity that pretends when you need it most. The idea seems a bit too good to be true, psychologically, if not logically. Maybe a better way of thinking about reservation is on the financial trading model. Most of us are familiar with a tagline that's standard in market perspectives. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. It's a warning not to assume an investment will do well in the future just because it did well in the past. Market climates change. We have to be adaptive.
Starting point is 00:54:58 But equally what did poorly in the past may just as easily be an opportunity in the future. Either way, we have to be agile, not market timers, but poised to rebalance on a regular basis to meet target asset allocations. This is actually a useful way of thinking about key stoic texts on mental reservation. No, the stoics were not financial advisors. If anything, their cynic roots make them suspicious of money. Recall the cynic motto from Diogeny's, deface the coinage. The point of the financial analogy is, rather, that information about the world and our best
Starting point is 00:55:44 analyses of it are constantly changing. Impulse should change and be responsive to those updated ways of seeing the world. So to return to Seneca's example, I'll go on a boat ride, but I'll change my plans and motive or impulse to carry it out if I notice that a storm is setting in. I plan to campaign for election as a Roman magistrate, but I will change my plans and impulse to go forward if my bid for election seems highly unlikely. And so on. In the Sages case there is quick responsiveness to new information. This is a highly idealized case.
Starting point is 00:56:27 The sage's impulses align with a present epistemic landscape. The sage doesn't ascend to future wished-for contingents. He keeps updating impulses in light of updated beliefs. In short, the sage doesn't get stuck on what's wished for or what was, motive always tracks cognitive changes, and cognitive agility guarantees keeping up. Seneca unpacks the idea behind mental reservation in this way. It captures the preceding idealized line of reasoning, but with a few critical additions. This is why we say that nothing happens to a wise man contrary to his expectations.
Starting point is 00:57:13 We release him not from the accidents, but from the blunders of humankind. We are also to make ourselves adaptable, lest we become too fond of the plans we've formed. He accents the last point, both the inability to change and the inability to endure are foes to tranquility. The first point to note is that the sage is protected not from accident or misfortune, but from human error. And this is because a sage's knowledge keeps up with the facts, in the sense of what subjective
Starting point is 00:57:51 and outside the knower. It's in this sense that things aren't contrary to his expectations. It's not that the sage cushions all impulses against disappointment or failure, rather, she changes impulses to keep up with what is now the case. We fallible beings are not so lucky. Our knowledge isn't always one step ahead of accident. But then Seneca brings the sage down a little to our human level. A sage may suffer by having to abandon plans and desires,
Starting point is 00:58:27 so here we learn that the sage makes emotional investments that can actually lead to pain. But the suffering, Dolorim, will be much lighter if success isn't promised, that is, if there is mental reservation, and there is a capacity to be adaptive. That is a tip for all of us, even we who are fallible and who invest with more passion than as often wise. Overall this is a remarkable set of lessons with implications for our times. If the fundamental point behind mental reservation is cognitive agility, facing facts squarely,
Starting point is 00:59:10 trying to keep up with fluid informational landscapes, then the stoic idea here is less about how to beat frustration, than about how to change motivations in ways that align with new and reliably curated information. Beating frustration may be an indirect windfall, but the working getting there is cognitive. Of course, as we said, the stoics idealize the model. The sage is an exalted knower, indeed, an infallible one
Starting point is 00:59:40 who doesn't have to worry about ascending to misleading and attractive impressions, or clinging to tightly to health or clean feet. When the inevitability of disease or muddy feet is how nature is unfolding here and now, and guiding what we should ascend to. And he doesn't seem to have to worry either about all the unconscious ways we take in impressions without surveillance or will. But even so, the general idea of being responsive to a changing world, aided by exercises in pre-rehearsal, is a cautionary lesson for trying to find calm in unnerving
Starting point is 01:00:21 times. Like an archer. Another way the Stoics Council is to adapt to the uncertainty of outcomes is through an analogy with archery. In shooting an arrow, the objective is to hit the target, but the goal or end is to do all on one's power to shoot straight, to do all one can to accomplish the task. So there are two values, an objective about preferred outcomes, and an overall end or goal about striving. In terms of living a good and morally decent life, missing the mark with respect to specific actions, is compatible in the course of a life with achieving the overall end of excellence or virtue.
Starting point is 01:01:13 But otherwise, virtue is in the striving, in doing everything we can to live a good life. The accidents of bad luck may frustrate our objectives and preferred outcomes, but not the overall end of virtue or goodness. The two values, indifference or preferences in virtue or goodness, are distinct. Many would say, again, this is the harsh side of stoicism. Shouldn't we be distressed by accidents and bad luck that frustrates the objectives of our good actions, to save lives as a health care worker, to keep innocence out of the crosshairs of fire, to save a toddler and a playground accident.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Even if tragic outcomes don't impune our best judgment and fine efforts. Don't they typically stress us? And if severe enough, shake our confidence that we did everything we could? And isn't that distress a good thing? Assign that we care and are invested in the world around us. Consider the following case to test stoic intuitions. In the fall of 2019, I gave a keynote speech on moral injury at the Psychotrama Center in Amsterdam to a group of clinicians, senior first responders in fire, police, and the military, as well as humanitarian aid workers, among others. Firefighter Art Van Usten told us of a har heroing choice he had to make one Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 01:02:45 He was having a holiday meal with his family when he received a call to lead a rescue operation in the close knit, small Dutch town of Arna Morden. The apartment above a Chinese restaurant was ablaze, and four children of the restaurant owners were trapped inside. The parents stood outside the building in shock as they watched the flames balloon out the upper-story windows. Three firefighters already on the scene had tried to rescue the children, but the flames had overwhelmed their efforts. Conditions had only worsened. As arts surveyed the scene, the question was no longer how to rescue the children, but if they should be rescued.
Starting point is 01:03:26 And his judgment with 30 years of experience behind him was that the mission was futile. The children couldn't be saved, and the firefighters wouldn't survive the rescue attempt. With a heavy heart, he went to break the news to his colleagues, and to a police officer who was with the parents. When Art arrived home that evening, his wife already knew of the aborted mission from having followed a news broadcast. She worried about his safety, but also his career. They had lived through a previous incident of a lethal fire where the media had severely
Starting point is 01:04:00 criticized the fire department for not being able to save lives. He assured her and his children that the causes of the deaths of the children were not his or anyone's fault. The firefighters could not have done more that evening. The next couple of days were marked by psychological trauma after care for himself and his crew. He made sure that recovery of the bodies was carried out by the police who were doing the investigation, and not by the firefighters who had been at the rescue scene. Several days later, the police released a post-incident report determining that the children
Starting point is 01:04:37 had succumbed to the flames before the firefighters arrived. That brought some solace. Still, the fire stays with art, because as he explains, he made a conscious and deliberate choice to stop saving. Despite his years on the force, it was the first time that he had experienced an emergency of this magnitude. When he speaks to first responders as he did to our group, he tells them that it is almost impossible to fully mentally prepare for this sort of emergency. Everyone experiences a fire like this differently, and there should be no shame or stigma in seeking psychological help.
Starting point is 01:05:22 I wept as I listened to art take us back to that night. I was spellbound by this fireman, admiring of his moral and professional leadership, his ability to make calm and circumspect judgments in an acute emergency, his psychological acumen, his protection of his people, and concern for the family of the four children, his protection of his people, and concern for the family of the four children, his protection of his own family, and his clear-eyed sense of how a small town might judge him, and yet his ability to separate accident, fortune, and reputation from doing his work well. That is one stoic lesson to reap from this case. Art is a highly skilled exemplary professional firefighter, and he leads his team with insight and professional intelligence.
Starting point is 01:06:13 Not all actions and omissions in firefighting will yield the desired outcomes. It is a high risk activity. And selecting wisely in this business means facing lethal fire and its consequences. Preparation trains, but it doesn't fully endure against disaster. That's a modified stoic lesson. Arts Judgment, too, call off the rescue operation was validated by the after-incident report, and that gives some solace. But the harder stoic
Starting point is 01:06:45 comic to swallow is that even if the children had perished after the firefighters arrived, the wise selection in the circumstances, protecting the firefighters from a mission that would have caused them their lives, as well as the lives of the children, should also bring peace of mind. For the stoics are committed to the view that virtue is a skill like being a good doctor. Good doctoring isn't a guarantor that interventions will work. Will and intelligence, the best medical expertise and equipment, can only control so much. Medical workers live with the solace of doing their best. Good firefighters do as well.
Starting point is 01:07:26 So two argue the stoics do good persons. Good professionals aren't always good persons, but many are. And aspiring to achieve the finest is common ground. Health care workers on the front lines know this implicitly. As does Daniela Lamas, a critical care doctor and Boston's Brigham and Women's Hospital. She is on the phone with a husband of a patient. It is the end of March 2020.
Starting point is 01:07:55 COVID-19 is raging. I was not sure what to say. We were midway through one of the family update phone calls that had become our new reality in the visitor-free, intensive care unit when he paused. He had a question. His wife had been on the ventilator a few days now, and he understood that these machines might be in short supply. He just wanted to make sure. Were we planning to take her ventilator away? You don't know her. He went on. Yes, her cancer is advanced.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But before this pneumonia, she was taking conference calls from her hospital room. She's smart as a whip. Funny too. We have plans together. He told me places we want to see. It was then that I realized what my patient's husband was doing. He was trying to prove to me that his person was worth saving.
Starting point is 01:08:57 I hang up the phone and return to the buzz of the unit to check on my patient. Sepsis from her pneumonia, coupled with the immune compromise of chemotherapy, threatens to overwhelm her. Though the ventilator is helping to buy her time, she still might not make it. But I know if she dies, I will be able to tell her husband that we did everything we could. I will be able to tell myself that too. This is Sage Council for a modern stoic. Goodness and the peace of mind that can come with
Starting point is 01:09:32 it is in doing our best, operating at the highest levels of excellence with those similarly committed. Excellence doesn't bring immunity from failure or suffering. It doesn't bring immunity from moral distress, but it is a source of psychological sustenance of a profound sort. Dr. Anthony Fauci, age 79 at the time of an interview, is asked how he would like to be remembered after the coronavirus pandemic is over. You know, I just would hope that I'm remembered for what I think I'm doing, is that I'm doing the very best that I possibly can. Good doctrine is the model for what the Stoics call the art of living, and it is what most
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