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Epictetus was born into slavery and he spent the next 30 years in that institution.
The Roman kind, which meant he was considered property, had no rights, could be abused or
killed without legal consequence.
He wasn't even given a name.
Epictetus just means acquired one.
He was tortured.
And when Epictetus finally found freedom, he was almost immediately exiled by a tyrannical
emperor.
You know in Les Mis where she sings about how the dream she dreamed was so much different
than the hell she was living?
That was basically Epictetus' real life story.
He was treated like an animal, designed to be used up and cast aside.
And while no one would say that Epictetus was the lightest or the most fun of the Stoics,
considering what he went through, his writing and his philosophy could have been, perhaps
should have been a lot darker.
He had every right to be bitter, every right to be angry, every right to be a nihilist.
After all, the world he lived in was nihilistic and cruel and dark. But instead Epictetus was funny. He was inspirational. He was strong.
We have a daily stoic video that focuses on some of his keys to resilience.
But one of the main reasons he wasn't broken by his experience
was a simple stoic insight.
The key to life, he said, was not to dream for things
to be a certain way, but to dream for them to be the way they are.
To be grateful that you had the fate you had,
to be the best you are capable of being inside that.
If anyone ever had an excuse to give up, to grow cynical,
to hate the world, it was Epitetus.
But he chose something different.
And so can we.
No matter what we're going through,
we always have the power to respond with virtue,
with humor, with grace, with wisdom.
That's real strength, and that's real freedom.
Our duty to learn. This is today's entry, July 7th in the Daily Stoic.
366 Meditations on Wisdom, Perseverance, and the Art of Living.
This is what you should teach me, how to be like Odysseus, Seneca writes in Moral Letters
88-7.
How to love my country, wife and father and how even after suffering a shipwreck,
I might keep sailing on course to those honorable ends.
And I write, many school teachers teach the Odyssey all wrong.
They teach the dates, they debate whether Homer was really an author or not,
whether he was blind.
They explain the oral tradition, they tell students what a cyclops is or how the Trojan horse worked.
Seneca's advice to someone studying the classics is to forget all that.
The dates, the names, the places, they don't matter.
What matters is the moral.
If you get everything else wrong from the Odyssey, but you're left understanding the
importance of perseverance, the dangers of hubris, the risks of temptation and distraction. Well, then you really learn something. We're not
trying to ace tests or impress teachers here. We are reading and studying to live to be good human
beings always and forever. Of course, there's an entertainment element to something like The Odyssey, or really any great book.
That's why it's survived for thousands of years as a text.
There's literary value as well. You'd study it as a writer.
And by the way, my favorite translation of The Odyssey is this one by Emily Wilson,
who's also Seneca's biographer.
If you haven't read The Greatest Empire by Emily Wilson, you absolutely should.
And you should read her newer-ish translation
of The Odyssey, which I quite, quite enjoyed.
And I actually carry both of them in the bookstore.
It's perennial, it stands the test of time.
All of which is to say,
I also love how perennial Seneca's example is, right?
Like, I'm sure you remember the pedanticness and the boringness
with which you dissected texts in English class or whatever in high school.
It's like quizzes.
What year did this happen and what is the name
of so-and-so's father in insert novel?
They're trying to test whether you read it or not,
as if just reading it is the accomplishment.
No, you have to internalize the ideas,
the lessons that the author was trying to teach.
You have to understand it and translate it into insights
as a human being, not recite trivia from it.
And sadly, that's what so much mediocre education focuses on.
They get us to memorize things.
I think this is funny too.
This is like the knock on like kids who have been raised
in this digital era about how they don't remember things.
They can just Google it.
What matters is that they remember the gist of the insight,
not like the dates and places, screw that, right?
Like, does it actually matter to you in a tangible way
whether Napoleon was a real person
or a literary character, right?
No, the insights that you can learn from his life,
the strategic lessons of course,
even if they were fictional would,
obviously the fact that they are real
makes them more worthy of study.
But my point is, like, you don't study Franco-Prussian battles
unless you're gonna become a general or something. You study them to learn about hubris, to learn about
celerity and hustle, to learn about creativity and courage, right? To also learn about overreach
and stupidity and the power of alliances, right? We study history to learn those things.
We study history to learn those things. But again, you mispronounce Chrysippus or, you know,
sometimes I'll refer to Epictetus as a Roman slave
and someone will give me an angry email.
Actually, he's Greek.
It's like, okay, but he lived in Rome
and was owned by a Roman.
I think we're getting into a rather pointless conversation.
What matters is what you learn from Epictetus
and his example, right?
I bet if you'd asked Stockdale, if you said,
oh, you know the Roman slave Epictetus,
he wouldn't have been like, oh, I think he's Greek, right?
No, what he took from Epictetus was the power
of the courage and the fortitude and the strength
and the lessons, and that's what he applied there
in the Hanoi Hilton.
That's why we're studying the Stokes
and that's how we learn.
This is how I try to teach my kids.
This is what I try to study.
The trivia is not important, right?
The trivia is not important.
What matters is internalizing the moral lessons.
Epicurus would say that vain is the word of the philosophers
does not heal the suffering of man.
I would say vain are most facts
that you're not going to apply and use
not even in your work, but to be a better human being. That's the purpose of this study. That's
the purpose of this philosophy. That's what I try to talk about here on this podcast.
And it's a wonderful reminder again, from a really smart person. Seneca was brilliant. He knew lots
of facts. He knew all those things about the Odyssey. But what he really wanted to learn
how to do, what the study of his life was, was how to be like Odysseus. Although I think when you read
Emily Wilson's translations, you're also reminded how not to be like Odysseus. Because I saw in her
translation that he was much more of a flawed character than perhaps I'd felt early on in my
readings of that wonderful poem slash play.
Again, is it a play?
Is it a poem?
Who gives a shit?
What matters is what you do with it.
And I do urge you to read it,
read it for the right reasons
and read all the things that you read for the right reasons
just to become a better human being in the world.
Hey, it's Ryan. the world. It's an honor. Please spread the word, tell people about it, and this isn't to sell anything. I just wanted to say thank you.