The Daily Stoic - How Astonished Would They Be? | No Shame In Needing Help

Episode Date: June 16, 2025

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For more, visit DailyStoolic.com. How astonished would they be? It was the furthest thing from his mind. In fact, it was the opposite of what he was aiming for or what he valued. The idea that people would one day read his meditations, that it would be studied thousands of years later, was inconceivable to the man writing for himself, a man who believed that posthumous fame was meaningless. And yet, can we imagine he would take some quiet satisfaction in the legacy his words left behind, that the accidental byproduct of his private reflections

would be a source of strength and wisdom for millions? It pleases me to think, Marilyn Robinson writes, how astonished old Homer, whoever he was, would be to find his epics on the shelf of such an unimaginable being as myself in the middle of an unrumored continent. Marcus would have been astonished, if not temporarily horrified by the publication of his unedited thoughts.

But just as much he would have been astonished by you, the restoration of the Republic, not just in America, but in constitutional democracies around the world, that we have gotten closer as he hoped we would to a society of equal laws governed by equality of status and speech and of rulers who respect the liberties of their subjects? He would appreciate the interconnectedness of today's modern world. He would love that the philosophy that was already ancient in his day has continued and remains an ancient, yet living philosophy to us today.

He would love that people are still passing along Epictetus just as Rusticus had passed Epictetus to him. It is astonishing this world we live in, and it is a gift this philosophical tradition we carry forward. Let us be worthy of it. Music No shame in needing help. This is the June 16th entry in the Daily Stoic. 366 meditations on perseverance, wisdom, and the art of living.

You can grab a premium leather edition. You can grab signed editions at stored.dailystowock.com. It is fitting, I guess today is my birthday, June 16th, that we are going to be quoting one of my absolute favorite quotes from Marcus Aurelius, all time favorite quotes. Marcus Aurelius says, don't be ashamed of needing help.

You have a duty to fulfill, just like a soldier on the wall of battle. So what if you're injured and can't climb up without another soldier's help? So what? That's Marcus Aurelius' Meditations 7-7. You know what? I like this quote so much.

I'm gonna give you the Hayes one as well. What is that? It's a 7-7. So let me give you 7-7 from Hayes. Hayes says, don't be ashamed to need help like a soldier storming a wall you have a mission to accomplish. And if you've been wounded and need a comrade to pull you up, so what? Let's grab the Robin Waterfeld one too, see what he says about it. There's no shame in being helped because you've got to do the job you've been set,

like a soldier storming a city wall. Suppose you had a limp and were unable to scale the battlements on your own, but could do so with someone's assistance, right? So what? That's what he's saying. And the reason I love this quote so much, and actually let me get to the meditations first. No one ever said you were born with all the tools you'd need

to solve every problem you'd face in life. In fact, as a newborn, you were practically helpless. Someone helped you then, and you came to understand that you could ask for help. It's how you knew that you were loved. Well, you are still loved and you can ask for help from anyone. You don't have to face everything on your own. If you need help, comrade, just ask.

Look, the idea here and why I love this quote so much is it flies in the face of this stereotype of the emotionless, robotic, superhuman stoic that cannot ask for aid, cannot rely on anyone that is an island. You are not an island. That's what Mark Surrealist is saying. No, you're part of the phalanx.

You're part of a troop, a brigade, a battalion, and you're all in this together, protecting each other, helping each other. And in fact, to not ask for help, to just lay there and to give up is not just weak, but cowardly, right? You have to be able to ask for help. There's a great book. I've read it to my kids a million times called

The Boy, the Fox, the Horse and the Mole. We sell it at the painted porch. If you haven't read it, even as an adult, called the boy, the fox, the horse and the mole. We sell it at the painted porch. If you haven't read it, even as an adult, promise you, you gotta get this book. But anyways, there's a passage in the book he says, asking for help isn't giving up. It's refusing to give up, right?

Asking for help isn't weak. It's a sign of strength. You're not afraid of being seen as weak. You're committed. You're unbeatable, right? You will not go of being seen as weak. You're committed. You're unbeatable, right? You will not go down without a fight. And you're willing to do anything and everything to keep going, including asking for help.

So I don't know what you're going through. I don't know what's going on in your life. I don't know what you're struggling with, but you should not be afraid to ask for help. You should ask for help. Asking for help is important. I talked to my wife about this sometimes, like we'll be at a store and she's just looking all over the place for the thing. You should not be afraid to ask for help. You should ask for help. Asking for help is important. I talked to my wife about this sometimes,

like we'll be at a store and she's just looking all over the place for the thing. And I'd go, there are people whose job it is to help you. And in fact, by going and asking that Home Depot employee to show you something, that's like one box that they don't have to lift. You're giving them purpose and something to do, right? By asking for help, you are giving other people the opportunity to feel and do good.

Think about that way. Like when your friends ask for help, are you like, oh, this fucking guy? No, you're glad, right? When your siblings ask for help, like you enjoy the opportunity. So why would you think that other people would judge you or think critically of you or refuse you help, they wouldn't.

So don't be afraid to ask for help. Don't be afraid to show weakness or vulnerability. This is a good thing. And I hope that you do it. This could be therapy. This could be opening up to a spouse. This could be opening up to a parent, to a loved one, to a friend, to a total stranger.

Could be just asking for directions when you're lost. Don't be afraid to ask for help. It is not un-stoic. And in fact, to persist in ignorance or air or uncertainty because you are afraid of looking foolish. Well, that is to miss the point of stoicism, as Epictetus says. If you wanna improve,

you have to be willing to be seen as foolish. I'm not saying you will look foolish by asking for help, but you have to get over that fear of what other people will think to ask for and get what you need. So please, please do it. Appreciate all of your support here at Daily Stoic. I'm going to go have some fun on my birthday. So talk to you tomorrow. Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic podcast. So talk to sell anything. I just wanted

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