The Daily Stoic - It’ll Come For You Eventually | How To Read Better (10 Rules From Ryan Holiday)
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horrified. His friends hoped he would be spared. They did not understand why it had come to this.
Seneca, on the other hand, was much less surprised. Who knew not Nero's cruelty, he said to his weeping friends
when the goons came to kill him? After a mother and a brother's murder, nothing remains but to add
the destruction of a guardian and a tutor. The tragic part of Seneca's end, though, as I say in
lives of the Stoics is that he should have known better himself. It's not like he hadn't seen
Nero's character early on, but he had stayed in Nero's service. At some level, he seemed to think
it would go differently for him, that he could control Nero and use him for good, or that he was
smart enough to get free in time. In fact, he was not. Crimes often return upon their teacher,
Seneca would say in one of his plays. Enablers eventually get what's coming to them. They delude
themselves about their power. They expect figs in winter to borrow Epictetus's phrase,
expecting something utterly impossible in the nature of the person they enabled. But that's not how
it works. Sooner or later it catches up with you. When you compromise with bad people,
their consequences become yours. When you tolerate what you know is wrong, out of ambition,
out of fear, out of wishful thinking, you eventually pay the price.
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People who read a lot all have one thing in common.
They spend a lot of time leading.
Speed reading is mostly a scam.
If you want to read a lot of books,
you're going to have to put a lot of time into it
and not just time, a lot of work into it.
There are no secrets to this.
There's just hard work.
But there are some rules that great readers follow.
And I've gotten to meet a lot of authors and editors
and publishers over the years
in the course of writing my own books
and, of course, running my own bookstore
at the Painted Ports.
So that's what I want to talk about
in today's episode.
Some rules for reading
that great readers follow
that I try to follow in my own practice
because it's not just enough to read.
You have to read well.
You have to read the right books
and you have to figure out
how to process and retain
and, of course, apply what you read.
Great readers.
quit books that suck. And I say that as an author. If you want to quit my book, it's because I didn't
do a good job making you want to go from page to page to page. There's a story from Epictetus. He overhears
one of his students bragging about having read all of the works of Chrysippus. Chrysippus supposedly
wrote 700 books. He was very dense, very long-winded, very complex writer. And Epictetus says,
you know, if Chrysippus was a better writer, you'd have less to be proud of. And his point was
soldiering through some crappy, boring, long-winded, conceited, contradictory book, you know,
that's not good for you, and it's not a good use of your time. So great readers, quit books.
You don't quit a book just because you're a little confused or it's too hard, but the idea is
you can quit books that aren't doing it for you. You have to know that. And I quit books all
the time. Sometimes I go back to them. Sometimes I realize I was the problem and not the book,
but the point is if you're finishing every book you've ever started, you're probably not
reading as many books as you could read.
You should not feel shy about beating the hell out of the books that you read.
As an author, I could tell you it's a sign that someone actually really respects the book.
If it's pristine, if they're taking great care of it, that means they're not putting miles on it.
I'll show you my copy of Meditations.
Look at it.
I've had to tape the cover back on.
It's filled with notes, different flags.
I have marked almost every page of this book over the years.
I've got, this is just one of several copies, but the point is I'm engaging with the material
and I'm showing Marcus how important this book is to me, obviously is not actually like,
but I'm showing the author the ultimate measure of respect by disagreeing where I disagree,
adding where I think it doesn't go far enough, underlining where I think it's great, and then
taking the book with me, right? Taking it all over. This is why I made this leather edition,
by the way, you can see I'm already beating the crap out of the leather edition I made.
I wanted something that could stand up even better, but I want something that can travel with me.
This copy's been all over the world with me, and this copy has now, in the year since it's come out,
been in quite a few places, in a lot of backpacks, a lot of suitcases.
It's gotten wet at the beach.
It's gotten wet by the pool.
I've spilled food on it.
But the point is, a great reader respects the book by not respecting the book.
Warren Buffett has said that the single greatest investment that he made was a book.
He bought this copy of Benjamin Graham's The Intelligent Investor when he was like 19 years old.
A paperback book there was probably $1, $2.
You know, he's now worth $100 plus billion.
That's a pretty good return on investment.
But again, I think about this.
I bought this copy of Meditations for, I think like $8 on Amazon in 2006.
And it's changed the course of my life.
life. It's returned that 10 bucks many, many times over. You wouldn't be watching this YouTube
channel had I not made that investment. And I've gone, oh, there's a free copy on the internet. Maybe I'll
do that. No, great readers, when they see a book they like, they buy it. They don't go, oh,
I'll wait for it to come out in paperback or maybe I'll borrow it. No, find a way to get the book.
Buy it. Consider the books that you buy in investment because they are.
One of the best ways to understand the present is, of course, to study the past.
And when you read the Stoics and you read about the Stoics, you get insights into the timelessness,
the universalseness, the commonalities between human beings that help you understand what is going on
in this current moment.
Reading about the clash between Cato and Caesar helps you understand the different types of
political ambition, the different types of politicians that are out there.
Reading about the Catalan conspiracy could give you insights into the insurrection on January 6th.
Reading about the Antonine plague, which Marcus Aurelius lived through, gives you insight into COVID.
Marcus Aurelius has a line in meditations.
We don't think of meditations as being a plague book, but it is.
He says there's two types of pestilences.
There's the plague that destroys your life.
There's the one that destroys your character.
He was talking about the cruelty, the indifference, the selfishness,
that people exhibited in his own time that we saw again in 2020, 21, 2022.
And the point is, you can read the Stoics.
You're reading about ancient Greece and ancient Rome.
You're reading about people who lived so long ago that were seemingly inconceivably different from you,
and then you realize they're not at all.
So we read the Stoics and we read about the Stoics.
We read the period they're in.
So we can understand this current moment in a less partisan and a less politicized
and a less recency bias kind of a way.
It's one of the great things about reading philosophy and history.
There's a line attributed to Mark Twain. He probably never said it, but he said something
like, a person who doesn't read has no advantage over someone who does read. A real quote from
General James Mattis, one of the students and practitioners of modern stoicism, he says, you know,
if you haven't read hundreds of books about what it is that you do, he said you're functionally
illiterate. So it's not just, hey, I read every once in a while, but have you really done a deep
dive about your profession. Mattis's point about warfare was like a lot of people have been doing
this a long time. Thousands of years. And for a soldier for an officer not to avail themselves of
that knowledge, not to dive deep into that human experience is reckless and irresponsible for the
people who are depending on you. So it's not just that you read. You should read deeply. You should
read a lot. You should read broadly. The point is, doesn't matter that you can read that you're good at reading.
it matters are you putting the muscle to it the time into it and reading a lot
one of the things marks really says that he gets from his philosophy teacher rousticus he says
is to never be satisfied just getting the gist of things he says you have to really understand
what's going on you have to really really understand it if you're just okay getting the gist of it
read a tweet or a wikipedia page or watch a documentary or a tic-tok reading by definition
is the opportunity to fully understand something, to read it in long form.
You've got to go long, you've got to go in depth.
Don't be satisfied with getting the gist.
Read the intros, look through the footnotes, read a review of the book, read a scholarly
work on it also, read the Wikipedia page about it, watch videos about it also.
You want to truly understand what's happening here and not just be satisfied with some
vague surface level understanding.
you read but how are you taking notes how are you recording and capturing that information these are
just some of my note cards this is my commonplace book all the notes i have taken on books that i've
read each one of these like here this is the book that i'm working on now all of these are notes
that more or less came out of books that i read a lot of books right it's not just that you
read as a stoic but how are you organizing contextualizing reworking working with that information think
about what Marcus Aurelius' Meditations is. It's filled with quotes. It's filled with fragments
of the works from the other philosophers, lines from plays that he liked. So how are you organizing
and connecting and recording this information so you can draw on it? That it's not just
trapped in these different books that you've read. You want to get it from the books, but then
get it out of the books, right? And in that process, it also helps you get it into your actual
life. So this is a really important practice for the Stokes. I have a whole video on how to
keep a commonplace book. I'll link to that here. You can also check it out in the description.
I read a lot. It's sort of my job. You can't write without reading. But for almost 15 years now,
once a month, I send out an email with my favorite book recommendations for that month,
books that I've been reading, books that I've been going through, books that changed my life,
that inspired me that I can connect to what's happening in the world. And you could sign up right now at
at Ryanholiday.net slash reading list.
There's that great line from Epictetus.
You can't learn that what you think you already know.
The point is to read people you disagree with,
to seek out things that you don't know about.
You're reading to learn that which you don't already know.
There's this great line from the physicist John Wheeler.
He says, as our island of knowledge grows,
so does the shoreline of ignorance.
One of the things I love about books
is they introduce me to things that I didn't know about.
If I read another book about the Civil War, which I've read so many books about,
I'm always surprised to learn things that I thought I knew about it.
And turns out I didn't know about this whole other part of it.
So we read widely, we read deeply, but we never think we've got it.
We never think we know it.
We're always looking for more.
At the same time, Seneca says we often get way too distracted by surface level details.
He was talking about even in his own time, people wanted to know where the events
the Odyssey happened. And he said, they're getting caught up on whether it's real or not,
whether Odysseus actually went through this storm or that one. He says, meanwhile, they've got
storms going on in their own life. So it can be interesting to get into some of these debates,
but at the same time, he's saying the point of reading is to get the moral message, is to get
the lesson out of the texts. It's good to have recall and take notes and write stuff down, of course,
but you're not reading to produce a book report. You're reading for your life to apply these things
to your actual life, right? That's the whole purpose of reading. Whether it's fiction or nonfiction,
right? You're reading to get lessons, to get ideas that you apply to your actual life. He says,
far too many brains have been afflicted with enthusiasm for pointless knowledge. That's perfectly said.
It's not just that you read, but that you reread. Seneca says we want to linger on the works of the master thinker.
Let me see.
Here's my copy of Seneca.
You can see there's different highlighting, different pens, because I've read it more than
once.
And every time I read it or pick it back up, I get something else out of it.
I've read this translation and then Seneca's letters here.
This is a different translation of the first 65 of the letters.
And so I've read not just one translation, but multiple translations.
The idea is you go back to the books.
This is another stoic idea they get from Heraclitus that we never step in the same river
And so it's not just reading, but rereading, because you get something different out of it each time.
Like, here is my copy of Gatsby, which I read in high school.
This is the copy I got in 9th or 10th grade.
So I read it in my teens.
I read it in my 20s. I've read it in my 30s.
I've read it many, many times.
I was just going back over something in this book for the Justice book.
The idea is that each time I go back to it, the book is the same, but I am different.
The world is different.
And thus, we benefit by not just reading, but also rereading.
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