The Daily Stoic - It’s Given Us More Of Ourselves | (Dis)integration

Episode Date: March 3, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to the Daily Stoic early and ad free right now. Just join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. Daily Stoic is based here in this little town outside Austin. When we have podcast guests come in and go, oh, what hotel should I stay at? Honestly, there's not really many great hotels out here, but there are a bunch of beautiful Airbnbs that you could stay in a ranch. You could stay on something overlooking the Colorado River. They've even got yurts in the woods out here. And Airbnb has a million different options, old historic houses.
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Starting point is 00:01:41 For more, visit Daily dailystoic.com. It's given us more of ourselves. The mistake cost us time, the bankruptcy cost of fortune. Those years we spent drinking or dicking around, we'll never get back that time we lost. We're still digging ourselves out of that mess. The fallout from the pandemic, this nightmare of a work situation we're stuck with, the problems big and small that life gives us. They are not cheap. They are not free. They are not free. They are also not without their benefits either.
Starting point is 00:02:28 As we've said before, it's in struggling and dealing with these problems that we discovered things about our capacities. Indeed, we had to increase our capacity in order to deal with them. Adversity costs us, sure, but it also gives us more of ourselves. It unlocks something in us that was not reachable in ordinary circumstances that we didn't know
Starting point is 00:02:53 was there. When the Stoics practiced Amor Fati, it was not the failure or the loss or the physical pain that they loved. That would be ridiculous. No, they were embracing who they could be in response to it. They were embracing what they would become because of it. They were embracing the new parts of themselves
Starting point is 00:03:16 and of relationships and life itself that they were given as a result of it. We had something taken away from us by fate, but by turning towards it, by facing it, struggling with it, we found something too. We found out who we really were, which was someone greater and stronger than we ever could have imagined.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Amor fati means a love of fate. It's the mindset of making the most out of everything that happens. Marcus Aurelius, he said that a blazing fire takes flame and brightness out of everything that is thrown into it. Nietzsche said that amor fati was his formula for greatness, that we not only bear what is necessary, but love it.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And that was the inspiration for our Amor Fati Challenge coin. It's a creation I was lucky enough to collaborate on with my mentor, Robert Green, and it's something I carry around with me always. This coin helps me reframe every obstacle and difficulty I face in my life, as well as all the great things that have happened in my life as well. So you can check it out.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Go to dailystoic.com slash AF, and I promise you, you will love it. Today's entry from the Daily Stoic, Disintegration. These things don't go together. You must be a unified human being, either good or bad. You must diligently work either on your own reasoning or on things outside of your control. Take great care with the inside and not what's inside, which is to say, stand with the philosopher or else with the mob.
Starting point is 00:05:01 Epictetus's Discourses 315. We are all complicated people. We have multiple sides to ourselves, conflicting wants and desires and fears. The outside world is no less confusing and contradictory. For not careful, all of these forces pushing and pulling will eventually tear us apart. We can't live as both Jekyll and Hyde. Not for long anyway. We have a choice to stand with the philosopher and focus strenuously on the inside or to behave like a leader of a mob, becoming whatever the crowd needs at a given moment. If we do not focus on our internal integration on self-awareness, we risk external disintegration. Obviously you're listening to me so you can't see it,
Starting point is 00:05:45 but in the book I have disintegration, the dis in parentheses, one word, but there's the parentheses. And the reason I do that, it's actually something I talk about in the intro, my first book, Trust Me I'm Lying. And if you've read Trust Me I'm Lying, you've heard of it, it might seem very different than what I talk about here at Daily Stoic.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Or if you see a video of me, and then you contrast it with the somewhat ominous, maybe even evil cover of Trust Me I'm Lying, it might seem as difficult to reconcile. And indeed it is. And I talk about this in the intro of the book. I was of course familiar with Stoicism when I wrote that book.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I was of course studying stoic philosophy before I even got into marketing. And you know, I've read Mark Searou's many times in those years that I worked for those controversial clients. Was it hypocrisy? Was I a bad person? I mean, I don't get to say that. But what I think about it, and as I reflected on it when I wrote that book, is that I was not integrated I had these two different parts of myself that were very not Aligned does that make sense? Like it's funny. We use the word disintegration to mean like comes apart, right? But really what it would mean diss and integrated means not integrated and that's what I was I was not integrated
Starting point is 00:07:02 I had these different spheres I had this part of me that Really liked philosophy that really liked philosophy, that really believed in these ideas and stoses and was trying to apply them in my life. And then I had my actual occupation and day job where I was, you know, pulling these marketing stunts and, you know, living, I would say, an unphilosophical life,
Starting point is 00:07:19 but certainly not a life fully in accordance with the philosophical ideas. I don't think I was making the world a better place. That's partly why I wrote the book, partly why I changed the philosophy helped me get there. But for a long time, these these things were compartmentalized. They were not integrated. And so I think that's what Epictetus is talking about. He says you must be a unified human being. You can't be these different things. Seneca was not a unified human being. You can't be these different things. Seneca was not a unified human being.
Starting point is 00:07:46 He was a brilliant artist and a ruthless power broker. He was a philosopher who also coveted wealth and status and influence. Wanted to be on the inside of things. And that disintegration, some would call hypocrisy, I would just say was not the integration he needed and got closer to that integration. As he got older, he ultimately leaves Neuroservice and dedicates the last few years of his life to getting there.
Starting point is 00:08:13 And that's where I think a lot of his best work is from. But that lack of integration is a problem for all of us, right? You say you love your spouse, that your family is really important. And then, you know, you spend all your time at the office, or maybe you're having an affair. Or, you know, you say you care about the environment, but then look at some of your personal decisions, right? You claim to be a good person, but then look at how you treat people who are close to you, right? Hypocrisy is one thing, but I think it's often that we have trouble
Starting point is 00:08:47 just applying what we believe or applying it fully or seeing in fact that the way that we're acting, which feels normal or appropriate or necessary given our profession is actually not in accordance with their values or as the Stokes would say, not in accordance with nature, not who we're supposed to be, what we're capable of being. So this integration is the work that we need to do,
Starting point is 00:09:09 both in studying the philosophy, maybe it's going to therapy, maybe a relationship helps you get there, maybe just long conversations, a lot of self-awareness. I think ultimately, not to reference another one of my books, but it's our busyness, our franticness, our yearning or push for things that keeps us so busy and preoccupied
Starting point is 00:09:30 that we don't notice the disintegration. I think that's largely what it was for me. I was just trying to get ahead, doing cool things as they came up. I was young, had a million things going on, didn't wanna let certain people down. And so that lack of awareness about my disintegration was largely rooted in just not having the time,
Starting point is 00:09:55 not having the space to reflect, not having literally a minute to do it. And I think part of the reason we keep ourselves busy is so we don't have to do that. Because when we do it, it's painful because when we do it It's painful when we do it it demands change So I'm urging you I guess to take a little time to think about whether you're integrated to think about where you're not a unified Person to think about where you're focusing on things outside your control Because inevitably it will tear you apart
Starting point is 00:10:21 It does not end well and it can make you do things that you're ashamed of or embarrassed by or later regret or have trouble explaining. All of which are true for me to a certain degree and true for I think anyone as you get older and wiser and better. I'm wishing you much integration and the stillness required to get to that integration. I encourage you to do that work. 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple years we've been doing it. It's an honor.
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