The Daily Stoic - Just Put It On My Tab | On Handling Haters

Episode Date: September 16, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we bring you a stoic-inspired meditation designed to help you find strength and insight and wisdom into everyday life. Each one of these episodes is based on the 2,000-year-old philosophy that has guided some of history's greatest men and women help you learn from them. to follow in their example, and to start your day off with a little dose of courage and discipline and justice and wisdom. For more, visitdailystoic.com. after another for Marcus Aurelius, the plague, the flooding, the wars. He did not meet with the good fortune he deserved, one ancient historian noted, as his whole reign was a series of troubles.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Anyone who has had a run of bad luck knows the feeling. It's frustrating and annoying and sometimes deeply unfair, but there's also something freeing about it, because after a certain point, you stop fighting and start accepting. We can imagine Marcus after the 50th piece of bad news just saying, all right, put it on my tab. What was one more thing at that point? What did it even matter. He knew there was no use resenting, no use wishing it was otherwise, no escaping, no denying, just had to add it to the list. He had to accept it was pouring and he was in for a long wet night. He had to focus on a plan for what was to come next. It would do us good to borrow this attitude, particularly lately. We've had our own plague, civil unrest, wars, economic downturns.
Starting point is 00:01:51 And on top of this, our own personal issues, perhaps a divorce, young children, trouble at work, an injury or a diagnosis. While we should never accept injustice or give up hope, we do need to accept that it's time to buckle up. It's not going to be an easy ride. The bill is not going to be cheap. Somebody is going to have to pay it. And like Marcus Aurelius in our own lives, that person is us. So tell them to put it on your tab and start getting to work on it. daily stoic lately. And when you have roles you're trying to fill, it can be difficult, right? You want to fill the roles quickly, but you also want to find the right people. So that's really a question. How do you find amazing candidates fast? Well, the answer is just use Indeed. When it comes
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Starting point is 00:03:17 Just go to Indeed.com slash Daily Stoic right now to support the show and say you heard about indeed on this podcast. Deed.com slash daily stoic terms and conditions apply. Hiring. Indeed is all you need. On handling haters, this is from this week's entry in the Daily Stoic Journal, 365 days of writing and reflection on the art of living by yours truly and my wonderful collaborator, Stephen Hanselman, who I also worked on the Daily Stoic with. Today's entry, the Stoics taught that kindness Trump's hate. They believe that those who engage in hate are prisoners to a destructive passion, one that hurts the practitioner, not the intended target. There's no reason to hate a hater there already suffering enough. In fact, when we see them this way, it makes it easier to be kind,
Starting point is 00:04:08 good-natured, genuine, and useful. Remember that line in the Bible about how loving their enemies is like pouring hot coals on them because it's so unexpected? What can surprise you that way? Who's enmity can you meet with kindness and compassion and how much better do you feel when you've done so? You know, this is something I've struggled with a bit recently, just having watched my stuff on social media get attacked. You know, sometimes I have fun with it. Sometimes I like to stir it up a bit. I try not to get angry about it. It's not something that makes me angry, but there is a part of it that makes me really sad, really frustrated.
Starting point is 00:04:47 it because it's not that I can't take it. I can take it. But what I understand is how these ideas are rippling through and influencing other people making them fall prey to misinformation or participate in antisocial behavior. But I do try to remember this idea that hurt people, hurt people. And as a great expression, I found it to be very true in my life. But I thought I would give you that thought as we get into today's quotes. first is from Marcus Aurelius Meditations 11.3. What if someone despises me? He says, let them see to it, but I will see to it that I won't be found doing or saying anything contemptible. What if someone hates me? Let them see to that. But I will see to it that I'm kind and good nature to it all.
Starting point is 00:05:36 And be prepared to show even the hater where they went wrong, not in a critical way or to show off my patience, but genuinely and usefully. So when I respond, I try to have fun with it. and if it doesn't always come off as I'm having fun, I assure you I am having fun. You know, the Stokes talk about, are you going to laugh or you're going to cry? I think if you can't have fun with it, if you can't troll the trolls back, then in a sense they are winning. But let's go to Meditations 1118. Kindness is invincible, but only when it's sincere and with no hypocrisy or faking.
Starting point is 00:06:08 For what even can the most malicious person do if you keep showing kindness? And if given the chance you gently try to point out where they went wrong, right, as they we're trying to harm you. This is the hard part. And I talked about this with Brad Stone in his book about Jeff Bezos. Jeff Bezos heard very early on from his grandfather that it's easier to be clever than kind. And I would say this totally drives with my experience. It's easy to have a witty comeback. It's easy to be sarcastic. It's easy to dunk on someone to point out the obvious and ridiculous flaws or contradictions in their argument or even to focus on the horrific implications of what they're saying and point out the costs of their behavior. But kindness is almost
Starting point is 00:06:52 certainly what is going to convince someone, right? Patience is what it's going to take to convince them. And when you attack, you're almost certainly making them dig in more. I have to remind myself of this. And then finally, we have Epictetus in Corridian 20. Keep in mind that it isn't the one who has it in for you and takes a swipe that harms you, but rather the harm comes from your own belief about the abuse. So when someone arouses your anger, note that it's really your own opinion that's fueling it. Instead, make it your first response not to be carried away by such impressions, for with time and distance, self-mastery is more easily achieved. The other thought I would add to this is with the new book coming out. I've never put out a book
Starting point is 00:07:33 and not seen some people react negatively, meanly, aggressively about, you know, this thing that I just spent so much time and energy on. And that's something you learn when you put out stuff into the world. The people who dislike what you do are almost always louder than the people who are like, oh, it's pretty good. I liked it. Most of the things you like, you just sort of nod your head and move on. But it's the things you really hate. That's what seems to get us riled up. And that's what we seem to talk about most. We complain about most. So anyone that puts anything out in the world has to understand how to handle haters, not to be triggered by them, not to be distracted by them, not to be made bitter by them, not to be made worse by them. That's what I'm
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