The Daily Stoic - Learn To Ask This of Your Actions | Is Stoicism Compatible With Christianity?

Episode Date: July 7, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the Daily Stoic podcast, designed to help bring those four key Stoic virtues, courage, discipline, justice, and wisdom into the real world. Because of how Stoicism survives to us, mostly in the form of scraps and fragments and letters, we don't exactly have a list of do's and don'ts. There are no ten commandments of Stoicism, no definitive book of what they believed or didn't. But in those scraps and fragments, we do get plenty. We know what Seneca tried to do every night as he closed the day. We know what Marcus tried to think about in the morning. We know what Epictetus and Musonius Rufus said we ought to avoid doing. And it's that latter category that's worth thinking about today.
Starting point is 00:00:45 What habits did the Stoics say we ought to cease? What vices should we avoid? Don't be overheard complaining even to yourself. That's Marcus. Don't put on errors about yourself improvement. That's Epictetus. Don't overindulge in eating or drinking. Moussonius. Don't speak more than you listen. Zeno. Don't avoid difficulty. Seneca.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Don't tie your identity to the clothes you wear, the things you own. Kato. Don't conceal what you truly believe. That's Arias didomis. Don't go along to get along. That's agrippiness. Don't be all about business. Marcus. Don't put off to tomorrow what can be finished today. Seneca. Don't shun people you disagree with. Seneca. Don't sleep the day away. Marcus. Don't neglect your friendships, Seneca, don't waste time thinking you are going to live forever. That's all of them. We could list more, but really the most important thing to the Stoics, as far as forming good habits and kicking bad ones goes, it's awareness. Musonius Rufus believed that in too many circumstances we do not deal with our affairs in accordance with correct assumptions, but rather we follow
Starting point is 00:01:55 thoughtless habit. And Marcus said that we should learn to ask of all actions, why are you doing that? you must start with your own. I really want to tell you about the Daily Stoic Habits course that we have. It helps you do what the Stoics are talking about, which is how to avoid bad habits, how to form better new habits. I think it's one of the best things we've done. It's six weeks of habit formation, thinking about philosophy, applying it to your everyday life. These are habits I try to apply in my life that Marcus and Seneca and Epictetus and Musonius and all the Stokes we've talked about tried to apply in theirs. It's great stuff based on philosophy. psychology, research, history, and I think you're really going to get a lot out of it.
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Starting point is 00:05:50 HSA and FSA tax savings may vary. Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoke podcast. I lived in California for the first basically, what, 21 years in my life. I will say I never thought I'd be. looking forward to getting to San Francisco because it was warmer there, right? We did this long drive down the coast. We started in Seattle because I was doing a talk in Portland and then one in San Francisco and sort of winding down. And we spent all this time in the redwoods and, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:23 on the sort of beaches of Oregon and up near Bremerton. And it was like freezing. It's warm there now by the time you're listening to this. But it was, even though it was June, it was like freezing. Like none of us were wearing shorts. We were rewaring our sweatshirts every day or down jackets. It was freezing. And then we got to San Francisco. and it was like, son, and that is, you know, not what San Francisco is known for. Like, it was warmer taking a ferry out to Alcatraz than it had been any of the previous, you know, six, seven days of the trip. But San Francisco was awesome.
Starting point is 00:06:53 The talk went great. It was a thousand people at the Tony Rembi Theater. It was this beautiful old, like three-layer theater. It was lovely. I appreciate everyone that came out, including my parents came, my aunt came, some friends from high school and college came. It was just, it was lovely. And then I got to walk across the street to a diner with a friend I went to high school with,
Starting point is 00:07:18 one of my best friends from high school, and then a college friend. And it was just like, it was like back in the old times, you know. We were further north than it was growing up. But we were just, you know, we stayed up late, talked about things. Now we all have kids. It was awesome. Anyways, you want to come see me on tour or ask me a question. You can.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Dailystoiclive.com. Grab the tickets. I'll be in. Uckland and Australia, I'll be in Boston, Nashville, D.C., Detroit, Minneapolis. I think there's a couple of VIP tickets left. All the dates are there, daily stokelap.com. But here's a couple of questions from San Francisco. Enjoy.
Starting point is 00:07:59 I just turned 20, and there are 100 different ways that people tell you to spend your 20s. Uh-huh. How do you suggest that myself and other young adults spend their energies at this age? Yeah. This is a great question. Okay. You're 20 years old. How should you spend your time?
Starting point is 00:08:17 I would go towards whatever the things that would teach you the most. Like when I was evaluating opportunities, you know, I could work here. I could try this. I want to take this job or that job or, you know, do I want to sign up for this or that? I was thinking not how much am I going to get paid or what do my parents think? or, you know, how does this compare to what my friends are doing? And I thought, how is this teaching me something that I don't know how to do? And I was really big on, like, getting paid to learn things, right? Like, oh, you're paying me to do this, but actually I'm figuring out all these other
Starting point is 00:08:53 things as part of that, right? Like, I got to be Robert Green's research assistant. So on the, on one hand, I was making enough money to pay for my apartment, but I was also learning how to do the thing that I wanted to do. And so you have the kind of the vague sense of where you want to end up, or maybe you don't. And so you have to be even cast a wider net. But the thing you want to be going towards is the things that are teaching you, right, that are introducing you to people, to new ideas, to new, like, I just didn't even know all the things that I didn't know. And so I would take things that would just get me way outside my comfort zone, challenge me, and that, you know, I was confident I was going to learn something from doing.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And that means being bad. That means being low on the totem pole. That means being misunderstood, people thinking you're wasting your time. But you know why you're doing all that. And it goes to that virtue we're talking about of wisdom, right? Like you're being prepared for some future moment or opportunity that you can't quite conceive of yet. But what are the broad base of skills and knowledge that you want to accumulate along the way? That's kind of what my North Star was. Good luck. Hello? Hi. Great stuff. Fairly early to this. really intrigued by it.
Starting point is 00:10:06 I'm curious to when I try to describe my enthusiasm for Stoicism, the Daily Stoic, I find people kind of get kind of blurry-eyed when I tell them about it and they're like, what are you talking about? I'm like, no, it's not controversial. It's actually, it's just really good stuff
Starting point is 00:10:21 and you should try it. You can imagine when I tried to tell my publisher after writing a marketing book what I wanted to do next. So I get it. And then to take it a step further, I have a couple of relationships with my family members who are deeply religious, and I highly respect them for that. And I believe they view this perhaps as controversial, and I believe it is additive.
Starting point is 00:10:47 Sure. And so I'm wondering if you could maybe speak to those two things as I look to communicate this great thing you have going. Well, I grew up Catholic, and Stoicism and Christianity share the same cardinal virtues, courage, temperance, justice, wisdom. So I do think they are additive or complementary. You know, there's nothing in stoicism that is atheistic. And in fact, they believe in all the gods, as says Romans. Let's say there were some disagreements between the Stoics and the Christians in ancient Rome. And then later, when Christianity supplants philosophy, there are some,
Starting point is 00:11:26 you know, the shoes on the other foot. So there's a long back and forth between the two. But But ultimately, I think the pursuit of the good life is a philosophical pursuit as well as a religious pursuit. I think one of the things stoicism is uniquely designed around is like, it doesn't matter if people get it or not. And if you really need them to understand, I think there's a stoic lesson in that, right? We don't control what other people think. We don't get if they appreciate it. And that's not really what we should be focused on. If it works for us, if it's making us better, if we're learning, if it's interesting to us, that's all great.
Starting point is 00:12:05 And that's kind of how I think about it. Hello. Hi. The Odyssey is a movie is coming out. Yes. And it's the classics book club, which I'm part of. Why do you think it's a good time to read that book? And what does it mean to you?
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yes. So the Odyssey is the sort of foundational myth, I think, of the Greeks, then the Romans, then all the way down to us. We were listening to the Emily Wilson translation and audiobook on the drive here in exchange for iPad time for my children. It's a story that is so complex and so long that like I think all great works, you take different things out of it each time, right? You know, right as we're listening to it in the car, you were like, oh, wow, like so much of the beginning is not about Odysseus at all. It's about his son, Telemachus, who's, you know, a young man. trying to find his way in the world. And as my kids have gotten older, I think about, oh, like, this is, there's this coming of age
Starting point is 00:13:07 part of it. And we did a Daily Stoic email pointing out just the way Emily Wilson renders, you know, the moodiness of telemachus as a teenager, just how like thousands of years ago, you know, she's nailing this thing that's exactly like the teenager that I'm sure many of you have here. The first thing that struck, you know, my kids about the Odyssey when we started reading it several years ago was like they just love the story of polyphemus in the cave and you know that he tells him his man is that his name is no man so he says no man has stabbed out my eye and uh there nobody has stabbed my eye and and and just like i just loved the idea that
Starting point is 00:13:46 2,500 years later this joke still lands right so something incredibly powerful about the odyssey in in that sense as well you know all of our stories in the years since have you know taken in some way from from the audits. There are obviously other great epics. The Bacabaggita is one. Gilgamesh is another. They're all sort of map the hero's journey, and I think we should read all of them.
Starting point is 00:14:08 But I do think if you're philosophically inclined, it's hard to beat the Odyssey. And, you know, Stoics talk about how we don't step in the same river twice. You take something new out of it each time. Odysseus is heroic, and then in another reading, he's tragic, and another reading he's monstrous. And you can see it from all these different angles
Starting point is 00:14:29 and take something new each time. That's what I think great literature and art does. And she mentions we have this quarterly classics book club with the Painted Ports, which you're all welcome to do. We did Middle March for the first book. And then we're doing The Odyssey and then we're still arguing about what the third books could be. Putting your daily dad and Delhi Stoic hat on,
Starting point is 00:14:50 what can we learn from Commodus? Is Marcus Aurelius responsible? Yeah. What can you take away? People ask me all the time, if I could ask Marcus Ruelas one question, what would I ask? I feel like you have to ask, what happened with Cominus? It's crazy. He's even worse than Joaquin Phoenix, portrays him and gladiator. How does that happen? How does such a great man have such a shitty kid?
Starting point is 00:15:12 Look, it's endlessly fascinating to debate. I think you can make one argument. Marksueless has 12 kids, I think six of them die before reaching their teenage years, just unfathomable loss and pain. Like, if you were to go like, hey, what happened to this person? And you're like, oh, well, six of siblings died before them. You'd be like, oh, that explains a lot. But I don't think it's good for your dad to be king. I don't like, powerful people tend not to have super well-adjusted children. It's a tragedy. I mean, Marcus Rueless has gone for like all of his reign. I think, I think that would do a number on anyone. You know, Marcus Rueless has chosen to be emperor. He has great teachers who he listens to and he, you know, eases his way into the Pacific. He has a 20-year.
Starting point is 00:15:58 apprenticeship under Antoninus before he takes power. Commodus is thrust into power at, what, 18 or 19? I mean, if that had happened to me, I probably would have been real bad too. I don't know how many people are equipped at that age to be the most powerful person in the world. Even if you had a perfect upbringing, you know, the majority of the time it goes badly, as we see with the British royal family, for instance.
Starting point is 00:16:23 Historically, Comedus is the rule and not the exception. the exception. It's just Mark Surrealis was the exception to the rule, and so we wonder why lightning didn't strike twice.

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