The Daily Stoic - This Is An Important Time in Your Life | How Do You Do Hard Things When Life Is Already Hard?
Episode Date: January 15, 2026People probably thought Marcus Aurelius was strange. The time he spent alone in his room. The long walks he took by himself. There would be no Meditations without this quiet solitud...e, but more alarming, there would have been no Marcus Aurelius, either.🎟️ Come see Ryan Holiday LIVE: https://www.dailystoiclive.com/San Diego, CA - February 5, 2026 Phoenix, AZ - February 27, 2026 👉 Support the podcast and go deeper into Stoicism by subscribing to The Daily Stoic Premium - unlock ad-free listening, early access, and bonus content: https://dailystoic.supercast.com/🎥 Watch the video episodes on The Daily Stoic YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DailyStoic/videos🎙️ Follow The Daily Stoic Podcast on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dailystoicpodcast✉️ Want Stoic wisdom delivered to your inbox daily? Sign up for the FREE Daily Stoic email at https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Get Stoic inspired books, medallions, and prints to remember these lessons at the Daily Stoic Store: https://store.dailystoic.com/📱 Follow us: Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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People probably thought Marcus Aurelius was strange, the time he spent alone in his room, the long walks he took by himself.
We know they thought it was strange that he was seen reading and writing in the Coliseum, ignoring the carnage of the games below.
The world today does not understand in either man or woman.
Anne Morrow Lindbergh writes in A Gift from the Sea, they do not understand the need to be alone.
Perhaps we ourselves don't understand it.
We don't quite see the point, or as much as we enjoy it, we don't see it as much of a priority.
As I discussed over on the Daily Dad podcast in email recently, parents will manage to make time for so many things, but quiet time for four and by themselves is written off as an impossible indulgence.
But actually Lindbergh writes,
These are among the most important times in one's life when one is alone.
Certain springs are tapped only when we are alone.
The artist knows that he must be alone to create the writer to work out his thoughts,
the musician to compose, the saint to pray.
There would be no meditations without this quiet solitude,
or more alarming there would have been no Marcus Aurelius either.
He had to take the time to retreat into his own soul, as he said,
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Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic podcast. I am back sitting in my chair
at the office for the first time. In some time, I was out with the family.
We had a lovely break together.
And now I'm back in the swing of things.
Back in December, I did one of my last talks of the year.
I was in Seattle for a live talk.
Many of you came out.
That was lovely.
I loved seeing all of you.
And I loved answering your questions.
The morning of that Seattle talk, I did a cold plunge.
It was lovely.
Jumped into Lake Washington, and then I went in the sauna,
and then back in the lake, and then back in the sauna.
Did a cold plunge on the first.
I was telling you, so I was thinking about that. It was a little colder in Lake Washington
in Seattle in December than it was in the Gulf of Mexico on January 1st. But it's been a lovely
new year. So I'm glad to be back in the swing of things. And I'm going to bring you a couple of my
favorite questions here now. If you want to ask me a question, I would love to see you. I'm
going to be in San Diego on the 5th of February and Phoenix on the 27th of February. You can grab
those tickets at daily stoiclive.com.
I hope you are having a lovely new year and we'll get right into it.
What's your guidance for some of us in the room that are early on in our stoicism
practice and journey and finding ways to stay consistent?
Sure.
Well, look, we're all early on in our stoic journey because it's something you're supposed
to do your whole life, right?
And there's a striking passage in meditation where Mark's really kind of kicking himself.
He's like, you're an old man and you're.
They're still doing these same things that you always did.
You're still worried about this.
You're stressed about that.
What I take that to mean is that we never arrive.
We never graduate.
We're always going to be learning.
I think it's important that we understand the Stoics aren't something you have read.
They should be something you are reading.
It is an ongoing practice.
So, you know, I've been reading and as I said, rereading meditations for going on 20 years now.
and I still get new stuff out of it.
So I would just say keep exploring, keep reading,
find the different Stoics,
read different translations,
read interpretations of the translations,
just keep going back to it, dip in and dip out of it.
And then, you know, there's going to be times when you drift,
when you come away from it,
maybe it's not working for you,
or you feel like you've got it.
And then, you know, Life will conveniently remind you
that you're not even close,
and you need to go back to basics,
and that's kind of how I've understood the process.
To me, it's reading, it's talking, it's journaling, it's applying,
and it's all of those things in a loop repeated over and over and over again,
and you get better and more advanced as you go on,
but you still struggle with the same basic things
because these are fundamental human issues
that we experience over and over again.
Considering tenants of courage and discipline,
I would like to hear your thoughts on training in martial arts.
I think it's great.
I took my kids to jiu-jitsu practice last week.
I think this sort of warrior or martial tradition
has a lot of overlap with stoicism.
I think that's why my books have been popular there.
It's why the Stoics themselves would have, you know, trained in a lot of these things.
I was actually, I was doing jiu jitsu pretty extensively when I was riding the obstacles
the way.
So there's some little illusions and homages in there.
So I can't speak to it too much because it's not like my main thing.
But I think any craft, any art, any domain that is challenging you physically, mentally, spiritually, you know, is a place to
apply these stoic principles and in fact also to learn things that you bring back to the stoic
principles. Quick question I have is probably a bit too deep as all these other questions are.
When you chose these different career arcs and paths, right? You know, I'd pretend like you'd know
it all, but you probably didn't. So what made you choose to not pursue being a CMO versus writing a
Stoic book, et cetera, for those of us, you know, thinking about the greater good versus our own
personal dreams, how did you balance that? Yeah, I would fully admit that I had no idea where all
this was going. The story, the direction, the clarity, that's only something that gets
retconned afterwards, right? The connection between them becomes clear afterwards. I didn't know.
I didn't know any of it would work. You know, I had this idea to write a book about Stoic philosophy.
which, you know, my publisher thankfully indulged me in, but they didn't think it would work.
And clearly I didn't think it would work like this or I would have asked for a lot more money, right?
I was just like happy that they said yes because I had no idea.
So all of this stuff becomes clear later.
I remember I was at a marketing conference when I was the director of marketing in American Paril.
I remember I would go to this marketing event every year in New York City.
And I went the first year and I looked around and I was the youngest person there.
I was the only one not in a suit. And I went the next year, same thing. And then the third year,
I went and I thought, you know, if I keep coming to this thing, I'm going to be in a suit.
And I just knew that that wasn't what I wanted to do with my life. And so sometimes just knowing
what you don't want to do, the direction you don't want to go in is really, really important.
And so I, you know, I kind of made a hard right turn. And I knew I wanted to be a writer at some level.
I knew I loved books. I didn't know what my first book would be or how it would work. But that was
the first, you know, sort of decision that I made. And then with the success of that, I had a
little bit more freedom to decide what I wanted to write about. And I took another kind of, you know,
hard turn. And so I, you know, I do trust my gut a little bit, but I just try to think, you know,
is this what I want to spend the rest of my life doing? And if the answer is no, let's try to get out
of it as soon as possible. My question is, we keep on doing challenging things, interesting
thing, reading, consuming more information, doing one thing after another. When do you really take a
pass and step back to see our retrospect, basically, to see what we are learning from it or what
can we do better? How do you do that? I basically struggle with retrospecting. So I would like to learn
from you. Yeah. This is really important. It can't just all be inputs all the time. You have to
step back. You have to have time and space for reflection. There's a passage of,
Meditations where Marcus is like, dude, you got to throw your books away and stop, you know,
you stop this. And I think people who love learning can sort of know exactly what he's talking about
there. I like to, you know, sort of, although I do try to read and, you know, learn always, I try to go,
hey, that it's more of like it ebbs and flows or there's seasons. And so, you know,
sometimes I'm in a really research-heavy phase. I'm trying to explore something or I'm doing a deep-deaf,
Like, I really want to understand something.
And then other times I go, you know, this is just a, this is more of a, you know, like when you put all the dishes in the sink and you go, I'm just going to let it settle.
I'm going to let it soak, right?
Then I'm going to come back.
Sometimes it's a soaking phase.
I always have like these big ambitious projects in my head and I can completely think about how it's going to turn out.
And then, you know, you get a lot of dopamine.
I'm going to do it.
I'm going to do it.
Yeah.
And then at some point, you are just, you are so fully.
of dopamine and then you actually have to do it. Yeah. And, yeah, you start procrastinating.
Sure. I'm just curious if you have like multiple just, yeah, strategies to do it.
Well, yeah. I can say to yourself for a time. Yeah. Thank you. I don't think there's any sort of
magical solution other than just just doing it, right? And sometimes it's the, it's the thinking and the
planning and the talking and the telling everyone about it. It's like you're getting all.
all of the validation before you've started.
And so oftentimes when I have a project or something,
I'm like, I'm just going to start this thing.
I'm not going to tell anyone about it.
I'm not going to make it a whole big thing.
I'm just going to start.
Like, what is the smallest thing I can do to get started?
So that's kind of how I think about it is.
I try not to talk about projects while I'm working on them.
I don't want to, I don't want people to tell me how excited they are for me
or how great it's going to be or any of that because I feel like it's like,
I'm getting in advance on the thing that actually I really want to just go earn.
So I just try to get after it and try not to overthink it.
I'm going to go Bill and Ted's excellent adventure on you.
The phone booth is on the stage.
Marcus Aurelius pops out.
You've got like five minutes to pick his brain, maybe go a little deeper on something.
What are you going to chat with Marcus about?
Well, as I said, the big question is like, what happened with comidus, right?
Who puts a teenager in charge of the Roman Empire?
That seems insane.
So I'd obviously be very fascinated with that.
I guess maybe here's a little nerdier one.
Seneca's writings don't appear anywhere in Marx Reles' writings.
So is that on purpose?
You know, is he mad at Seneca?
Is this a deliberate snub?
So I'd love to know what he thinks about that.
I would have obviously millions and millions of questions, but those would be two.
So my question is, how do you do hard things when hard things are happening to you?
You know, you mentioned, you know, like wars and famine.
Unfortunately, we live in war.
There's like wars happening right now and famine.
And people who have family who are like actively losing parents or partners.
And it feels surreal.
So I'm just wondering, how do you get yourself to do hard things knowing that?
Sure.
Look, if you live in a war zone, you don't need to do a cold plunge.
Okay.
Obviously.
The idea is we do the hard things.
because in the future, life has hard things in store for us.
And ideally, like, we want to be prepared for that.
Epictetus was saying, like, the whole point of the philosophy is to get to a point
where any of the things that happened to us in life, you're able to go, this is what I trained for.
So the idea is, like, how do you put yourself when things are good, when things are easy?
Speaking of wars, he says, you know, just as an army undergoes a hard winter's training,
because in the ancient world,
Roman armies couldn't fight in the winter.
So they would train in the winter to fight in what they would call the fighting season,
which is the warm months.
And so when things are good or when you are not experiencing adversity or difficulty
or whatever it is, how are you training and preparing yourself
so that when those things happen, you're able to deal with them?
That to me is what it's about.
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