The Daily Stoic - This Is Demanded Of You | 5 Stoic Secrets From The Ultimate Man Of Principle (Cato The Younger)

Episode Date: May 23, 2023

Seneca tried to teach it to Nero but Nero couldn’t grasp it. To be fair, most leaders, most powerful people, most governments and civilizations struggle with it. In fact, up until Seneca sa...t down to write De Clementia there wasn’t even a word for what we have, ever since, called clemency.Clemency, as Seneca explains it, is basically how a powerful person treats a person they have power over–particularly when the less powerful person has done wrong.---And in today's Daily Stoic video excerpt, Ryan shares some of the most strongest examples that Cato The Younger set for living like a Stoic.📺 You can watch the video at The Daily Stoic YouTube channel.📜 Check out the Daily Stoic Leadership Challenge at dailystoic.com/leadershipchallenge.✉️ Sign up for the Daily Stoic email: https://dailystoic.com/dailyemail🏛 Check out the Daily Stoic Store for Stoic inspired products, signed books, and more.📱 Follow us: Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoic Podcast early and add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Welcome to the Daily Stoic Podcast, where each day we read a passage of ancient wisdom designed to help you in your everyday life. On Tuesdays, we take a closer look at these stoic ideas, how we can apply them in our actual lives. Thanks for listening, and I hope you enjoy. This is Demanded of You. Senaqa tried to teach it to Nero, but Nero couldn't grasp it. To be fair, most leaders, most powerful people, most governments and civilizations
Starting point is 00:00:45 struggle with it. In fact, up until Senaqa sat down to write his essay on Clemencey, there wasn't even a word for such a thing. Clemencey, as Senaqa explains it, is basically how a powerful person treats a person they have power over, particularly when the less powerful person has done wrong. Clemencey was what Marcus really has tried to offer a video's casius when the less powerful person has done wrong. Clemency was what Marcus really has tried to offer a video-scaseous when the general attempted to palace coup. Clemency was what Marcus insisted the Senate maintain. His reign would not be stained by a single drop of blood, he said. Clemency was what Ulysses S. Grant offered at Appomattox. Clemency and something more was what the US offered Japan and Germany after the Second World War by not only not destroying them, but rebuilding both countries after.
Starting point is 00:01:31 It's worth pointing out just how remarkable the concept of clemence was when Sennaqa first articulated it. Rome was a country that slaughtered its enemies and sold the rest into slavery. Sennaqa himself was cruelly exiled for some made up crime, sent away from his family and his friends because he had offended the emperor Claudius. A tale you can read about in lives of the Stoics. Today's society is less violent and has more robust legal protections of human rights.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But clemency is still too rare, not just for the conquered, but also between colleagues, between spouses, between rival political parties to say nothing of our legal system here in the US. When someone has wronged you, deceived you, betrayed you, stolen from you, do you get your pound of flesh? Or can you be merciful and restrained? Can you be generous? The ability to forgive, to let go, to not extract a full measure of punishment from someone, this requires self-control, it requires decency, it requires wisdom. It is the mark of leadership and also a virtue. Do you have it?
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Starting point is 00:05:05 The Stoke that all the Stokes admired was Kato. In his last moments on Earth, Seneca is thinking of Kato. Thrasia is modeling his life on Kato. George Washington, for his part, makes Kato his hero. It's the basis of his whole life. So of the Stoke, Kato has always been the hero. But what's fascinating about Kato is that Kato didn't write anything down. He's not a hero because of his philosophical writings.
Starting point is 00:05:30 He's a hero because of the towering example. His philosophical contribution was his life, who he was as a human being. There's two Kato's in ancient Rome. There's Kato, the elder whose Kato's great, great grandfather, and then Kato the younger comes later, and he's the one who's explicitly thegrandfather, and then Kato the younger, comes later, and he's the one who's explicitly the stoic, and that's what we're going to talk about in today's episode. And I'm going to do some tips and strategies and lessons
Starting point is 00:05:52 from Kato's life that you can apply in your own. One of the best pieces of advice I ever got came when I got my first job in Hollywood. I sat in this meeting with a bunch of important older people, and I remember I spoke up about something, I didn't really know what I was talking about but I just said something and then afterwards one of my mentors took me aside and he said, why did you say that? Did you feel like it really needed to be said or did you just want to have something to say? I was speaking out of ego really, of speaking out of insecurity, I didn't actually have anything I want to say. So when I heard Kato's advice that he only speaks when he's confident that what he has to say is not better left unsaid,
Starting point is 00:06:29 that's the advice that I was getting and it's this timeless, amazing piece of advice, the idea that you don't just have to talk to the sake of talking, you can keep your mouth shut, you can listen. Two years one mouth as Stoke say, that's the way to think about it. Somebody once asked Kato the Stoke philosopher why there was no statue of him in Rome. And he said, I'd rather you ask that question, why there is no statue, than ask why there is a statue of me. Point is, it's better to be obscure, it's better to be underrated, than overrated. And I think about that with my books.
Starting point is 00:07:02 I'd like to be, I heard this great expression from a friend, and said, you want to be your favorite rappers, favorite rapper. You don't need to be the most popular. You don't need to be the most famous, the most well-known. You want to be the person that the people in the industry are fans of, because you're legit, because you actually do it. So, in my book, Perennial Cellar, I talk about this, don't chase fame. Chase the real taste makers, the real people who are doing the real shit. That's who you wanna impress if anyone, that's where you want your work to resonate.
Starting point is 00:07:31 You don't wanna be the person who's got an inflated reputation, you wanna be a person who's underappreciated, but actually great, that's who's gonna stand the test of time. And Kato is a great example of that. Kato walked around Rome bare headed, He walked bare foot. He wore thin toga, even though he was quite wealthy. He he dressed as if he was not and he was okay standing alone, looking different, being judged, being misunderstood.
Starting point is 00:07:58 And this wasn't just for fun. This wasn't just kind of tourism in a different way of life. What Kato is actually doing, I think, is preparing for the moment when it really counts. When he has to stand alone against Caesar, when he has to stand alone against corruption, when he has to stand alone against the decadence of his time, he's practiced this. He's prepared for it. How he's lived his whole life. He doesn't care that he's getting sideways glances. He doesn't care that people are criticizing him. He doesn't care that people are doubting him. He doesn't care that people are criticizing him. He doesn't care that people are doubting him.
Starting point is 00:08:25 He doesn't care that people are saying what he's doing is pointless and silly and it doesn't mean anything. And then he should just go along with everyone else. No, he's practiced this. He's prepared for it. He's made it a daily habit, which is what we have to do to prepare for a moment like that in our own lives.
Starting point is 00:08:44 All the great moments in Stoic history involve standing up for the little guy. Kato stands up for the little guy. Routilius Rufus stands up for the little guy. Marcus Reles passes laws that not only protects Rome slaves, he even gives wooden swords to the gladiators so they won't get hurt in the arena? We're all privileged. We all have advantages and at different times We're gonna see ourselves in positions of power or influence where we can do something for someone and a huge part of Stoicism is using that power using that privilege to lessen the burden to make life easier and better for other people, right? A stoic virtue of justice, right? Justice is a core stoic virtue of justice, right? Justice is a
Starting point is 00:09:25 core stoic virtue. Just that you do the right thing, the rest doesn't matter. The fruit of this life-marks really says it's good character and acts for the common good, which especially and particularly means speaking up and standing up for people who can't stand up and speak up for themselves. stand up and speak up for themselves. Hello, his famous question was, if not me then who? And then he said, if not now then when? And I think this is a really important stoic question. And this is why you see the stoics stepping up in moments of crisis and difficulty throughout the history of stoicism, because they knew that if they
Starting point is 00:10:01 didn't do it, if Kato had simply simply rolled over then no one would have stood up If Marcus Aurelius had declined being the emperor because what he really wanted to do is be a philosopher Then who would have taken his place? I think even Seneca realizes this in neurosurface. He says if I don't do this someone else worse will do it and I think This is just such a key question if you're not will do it. And I think this is just such a key question. If you're not gonna do it, who's gonna do it? And if everyone backed out, if no one stepped up, where would that leave us?
Starting point is 00:10:32 If not you, then who? And if not now, then when? Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft. Pfft.
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