The Daily Stoic - We Must Battle These Two Vices | Solve Problems Early
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For more, visit DailyStoic.com. We must battle these two vices.
There are lots of vices and we're all slaves to at least a few of them.
Lust, envy, ignorance, power, ambition.
We have these desires and aversions, these habits we indulge, these things we let ourselves
get away with. In a sense, Stoicism is a philosophy designed
to help us combat our vices.
Which ones?
Well, obviously we all battle different vices.
We all need help with different ones.
In his lovely biography of Marcus Aurelius,
the best one published yet, we think,
Donald Robertson writes about the role that Roustikis,
Marcus Aurelius' philosophy teacher,
played in the young that Rusticus, Marcus Aurelius' philosophy teacher,
played in the young emperor's life, specifically in his battle against these lower tendencies.
On close examination, Robertson writes, Rusticus appears to have helped Marcus first and foremost
overcome two vices, which are often found together, vanity and anger.
Many people struggle with these vices, and no one can afford it less than a leader.
Vanity leads us astray, makes us vulnerable to manipulation, and prevents us from learning.
Anger?
Anger makes us do stupid things.
It makes us harm people.
It blinds us.
It deprives us of peace and serenity.
And Stoicism has much to teach us about slaying these demons.
And we see Marcus Aurelius attempting to do so repeatedly in meditations.
He writes things designed to keep him humble, to puncture his vanity.
He uses meditations to calm himself down,
to vent his frustrations on the page instead of on other people.
He is trying to remind himself that it is often his ego or his entitlements that cause his anger.
And that's the work for all of us to identify our vices
and then meet them with discipline, humility and reason.
Because if we don't master them, they will surely master us.
And you know, the timeless stoic ideas
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["Solve Problems Early"]
Solve problems early.
This is the June 9th entry from the Daily Stoic.
366 Meditations on Wisdom, Perseverance, and the Art of Living by me and my wonderful translator
and co-writer and longtime agent, Steve Hanselman.
Today's quote is from Seneca Moral Letters 116. There is no vice which lacks a defense, none that at the outset isn't modest and easily intervened.
But after this, the trouble spreads widely. If you allow it to get started,
you won't be able to control it when it stops. Every emotion is at first weak.
Later, it rouses itself and gathers strength as it moves along.
It's easier to slow it down than to supplant it. Publius Sirius, he was a Roman slave and a Stoic philosopher, he said,
rivers are easiest to cross at their source. And I think that's what Seneca means too.
The raging waters and deadly currents of a bad habit,
ill-discipline, chaos, dysfunction.
Somewhere they began as no more than a slight trickle.
Somewhere they are a placid lake or a pond,
even a bubbling underground spring.
What would you rather do?
Nearly drown in a dangerous crossing
in a few weeks across now,
while it's still easy.
It's up to you."
You know, there's that expression, you nip it in the bud.
That's what I think.
I'll give you somewhat of a personal example.
I am not an addict in the sense that I am in recovery,
but I find that just about anything I do,
I can do compulsively, tend to do compulsively,
and can very easily develop an unhealthy relationship with.
So people ask me like,
what did the Stoic say about drinking or drugs?
Do you do those things?
I don't do them exactly because the Stoics forbid them
or that I specifically have a problem abusing them.
I just know it's a slippery slope for me.
It's a road better not gone down by me.
So I nip it in the bud.
I just sort of have a bright policy.
I just, I don't really drink.
I don't smoke, I don't do drugs.
I just don't do it. I keep it away. It's easier for me now, I don't smoke, I don't do drugs. I just don't do it.
I keep it away.
It's easier for me now, like, you know, I sometimes joke,
I was like, I don't really like the taste,
because I don't, I don't enjoy the taste
of let's say alcohol.
And people go, oh, it's an acquired taste.
And I go, but yeah, knowing myself,
getting over that hurdle
is not gonna put me in a better position now.
Now I have the instinctive, almost childlike aversion to it
and I wanna keep it that way.
Cause once I get over it, that buffer is not there anymore.
So I like to joke, I don't do acquired tastes.
The point is not doing the things at all,
not putting myself in a position where I can abuse
or do them to excess has been quite beneficial to me.
Another way to think about this would be like,
what's the person that really pisses you off
or what's a subject matter that you find
when you talk to your parents about
is always a source of conflict or argument.
Well, maybe just steer clear of that altogether, right?
In the way again, like a gambling addict
doesn't go to Las Vegas.
Cross the things early, nip them in the bud early,
notice the warning signs, notice the grumblings,
notice the aversions and listen to that.
Listen to that voice, headed off at the pass, right?
Solve it in advance, put yourself in a position
where you don't need superhuman willpower,
where you don't need strength and perseverance
and the inner citadel, you don't need that stuff.
That's what I think the Stoics are talking about.
And to me, this is a nice definition
of temperance, moderation,
sort of having a sense of self-awareness,
what you can do, what you can't do,
who you are, how you're wired.
Think about it that way,
and then make your decisions accordingly.
And if some people think that's weird or lame or unusual,
or you're missing out on fun, that's
their issue. You know yourself, you know what you should be thinking about, what you know you should
be doing, the decisions you can make to put yourself in a position to be successful and choose and act
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