The Daily Stoic - You Don’t Get To Learn By Trial and Error | Find Yourself a Cato

Episode Date: March 10, 2022

Ryan talks about why you must learn from the experiences of others, about how everything we do for others comes back to us, and reads The Daily Stoic’s entry of the day.Sign up for the Dail...y Stoic email: http://DailyStoic.com/emailFollow us: Instagram, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, and FacebookSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, prime members, you can listen to the Daily Stoic Podcast early and add free on Amazon Music. Download the app today. Welcome to another episode of the Daily Stoic Podcast. On Thursdays, we do double duty, not just reading our daily meditation, reading our daily meditation, but also reading a passage from the book, the daily Stoic, 366 meditations on wisdom, perseverance in the art of living, which I wrote with my wonderful co-author and collaborator, Stephen Hanselman. And so today we'll give you a quick meditation from one of the Stoics, from Epititus Markis, Relius, Seneca, then some analysis for me. And then we send you out into the world to do your best to turn these words into works. Hi, I'm David Brown,
Starting point is 00:00:51 the host of Wundery's podcast business wars. And in our new season, Walmart must fight off target, the new discounter that's both savvy and fashion forward. Listen to business wars on Amazon music or wherever you get your podcasts. You don't get to learn by trial and error. Most people learn by experience, touching the stove to learn its dangerous and hot, over-committing to learn what their limits are, falling in with the wrong crowd to learn who they should spend time with, and as far as a method
Starting point is 00:01:22 of personal discovery goes, that's fine to each their own. The problem is that your life is not just a personal journey. You're a leader, you're a parent, you're someone people depend on. Which is why, to paraphrase an insight from the soldier philosopher General James Mattis, it is unconscionable to fill up body bags while you get your education, one mistake at a time. Too much depends on the stoic for them to learn solely by experience. They have to also learn by the experiences of others.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Why do you think Marcus Aurelius and Epictetus were such big readers of history, of philosophy, of literature, and plays? Because they wanted to learn as much as they could from the scope of established human knowledge and use that as their starting point. It is arrogant to assume you have time to learn everything on your own. You need to get caught up first and then you'll not only be better prepared for the difficulties of life, but you'll be in a position ideally to add to the store of knowledge with your own discoveries and experiences. Seneca believed that reading was indispensable and needed to be an active practice in the life of the wise. It was the key to the happy life.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Well, it's also the key to succeeding as a leader and as a citizen. And informed, Stoic doesn't go down bad roads because they know where they lead. They are immune to the mob and to demagogues because they know the truth and because they know history. A Stoic reads so that they can also learn by experience. They just want a foundation of knowledge to add it on top of, instead of a dearth that must be filled in. Find yourself a Cato.
Starting point is 00:03:03 And I'm reading to you today from the Daily Stoic 366 Meditations on Wisdom Perseverance in the Art of Living by yours truly, my co-author and translator, Stephen Hanselman. You can get signed copies, by the way, in the Daily Stoic Store, over a million copies of the Daily Stoic and print now. It's been just such a lovely experience to watch it. It's been more than 250 weeks, consecutive weeks on the best cellist. It's just an awesome experience. But I hope you check it out.
Starting point is 00:03:30 We have a premium leather edition at store.dailystoke.com as well. But let's get on with today's reading. We can remove most sins if we have a witness standing by as we are about to go wrong. The soul should have someone it can respect, by whose example it can make its inner sanctum more invaluable. Happy is the person who can improve others, not only when present, but even when in their thoughts. Seneca's moral letters, 119. Cater the younger, a Roman politician best known for his self-discipline and his heroic defense of the Republic against Julius Caesar appears constantly throughout the Stoic literature,
Starting point is 00:04:10 which is interesting because he didn't write anything down. He taught no classes. He gave no interviews. It was his bold and brave example that made him such a commonly cited, in quoted philosopher. Senna could tell us that we should each have our own Kato, a great and noble person we can allow into our minds and use to guide our actions, even when they're not physically present.
Starting point is 00:04:34 The economist Adam Smith had a similar concept, which he called the impartial spectator. It doesn't have to be an actual person, just someone who, like Senna said, can stand by and witness our behavior. Someone who can quietly admonish us if we are considering doing something lazy, dishonest or selfish. And if we do it right and live our lives in such a way, perhaps we too can later serve as someone else's cateau or a spectator when someone else needs it.
Starting point is 00:05:05 The line from Adam Smith is in the wonderful book by my friend Russ Roberts, which you should check out. It's called Adam Smith Can Change Your Life, Carried at the Painting Port. It's a must read. But it's like, you know, in the cartoons, there's the angel on the shoulder and the devil on the shoulder and who you're going to listen to. Or if you remember those bracelets, what would Jesus do? Right? The idea is to have that person in your mind, whether it's Kato or Marcus Aurelius or your grandfather or Abraham Lincoln or Harriet Tubman or whoever it is for you, who is your hero?
Starting point is 00:05:38 And what decisions would they make in those situations? Because when I interviewed Andy Duke for the leadership challenge, she was talking about like getting to the outside of a problem, right? When you're in it, when it's you, you can get tied up in what you want to do or what your impulses say or what's easiest, but you want to get to the outside of the problem. And this idea of the spectator or the Kato or the hero, it allows you to think about it from someone else's perspective. So not like, what would you allow yourself to get away with, but what would so and so expect of you in this situation?
Starting point is 00:06:13 The other version you can think about this is like, what would you do if your kids were watching if they understood? John Wooden was fond of a poem and the line said, a little fellow follows you. And there's a similar idea, right? What would you do if your kids were watching? What would you do if anyone was watching?
Starting point is 00:06:31 But allowing those standards to hold you to a higher standard than you might otherwise let yourself get away with. But then I think this is really the important part this last sentence about, if we do it right, if we live our lives right, perhaps we could be that way. So remember, Stoicism is about putting your own spin on it, it's about being the ideas.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I think getting to a place where you yourself have lived your life in such a way, produced work in such a way, made brave or virtuous decisions in such a way that you yourself can serve as a model for other people, right? So, so maybe even using that as your own standard, who do I want to be, right? Who am I aspiring to be?
Starting point is 00:07:14 And what would that person do in this situation? Would they take the shortcut? Would they phone it in? Would they do the expedient thing? would they do the short term thing, you know, what would they do? And pushing yourself to be that person, that's to me what stoicism is about. And I think, again, the example of Kato is so inspiring because for literally hundreds of years, Kato was that example. Kato was that for for Thracia and for Seneca. For countless stillyx on down, Cato was the inspiring example. When I had Tom Rick's on the podcast, whose another great book I highly recommend, First
Starting point is 00:07:54 Principles, which we also saw in the bookstore, Cato was Washington's Cato. Washington built his whole life around living up to the example of Kato, and he didn't always get there But he pushed himself to get there and so again Try to find that power in the example That's the first part and let them guide your behavior let them call you hold you accountable to what you're capable of being And then strive to be that in such a way that you yourself for your children for your colleagues for your neighbor For whomever you yourself can for your children, for your colleagues, for your neighbor, for whomever, you yourself can serve as a kind of example for them.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic podcast. I just wanted to say we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple of years. We've been doing it. It's an honor. Please spread 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple years. We've been doing it It's an honor. Please spread the word tell people about it and this isn't to sell anything. I just wanted to say thank you
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