The Daily Stoic - You Need To Take The Unfamiliar Road | Think About It From The Other Person's Perspective

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

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Starting point is 00:01:41 For more, visit DailyStstoic.com. You need to take the unfamiliar road. We have our habits, we have our practices, we have the way we like to do things, the way we like to eat, the way we like to get to work. It's comfortable, it's also boring. It makes us lazy and fragile. General Sherman, the legendary Civil War strategist, once explained that he lived by an old rule, never to return by the road I had come.
Starting point is 00:02:24 He didn't want to retrace his steps. He wanted to blaze new trails, cover new territory, challenge himself. And this philosophy isn't just military wisdom. It's a blueprint for personal transformation. The ancient Stoics understood this deeply. In Meditations, Mark Ceruleus writes about holding his chariot reins with his weaker hand, not just as an exercise, but as a metaphor for embracing discomfort and doing things in a new way. He realized that true strength comes from developing ourselves in all directions, not just where we're capable or secure. And this isn't always easy, but neither is life.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Epictetus said that when a challenge is put in front of us, to think of ourselves as an athlete getting paired with a tough competitor or a sparring partner. You want to be Olympic class, he said. This is going to take some sweat to accomplish. Yes, the unfamiliar path is harder. Yeah, it requires more effort. But as any athlete will tell you, growth happens at the edge of discomfort and resistance.
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Starting point is 00:04:57 or just join us in this challenge. Start small, dailystoic.com slash spring. I will see you in there. This is from this week's entry in the Daily Stoic Journal, 366 Days of Writing and Reflection on the Art of Living by yours truly and my wonderful collaborator Stephen Hanselman, who I also worked on the Daily Stoic with. Today's entry, Think about it from the other person's perspective. We tend to assume the best about our own intentions and the worst about other people's. Then we wonder why life is so full of
Starting point is 00:05:39 conflict. The Stoics flip this habit around, reminding themselves to be suspicious of their own first reaction and approach others first with sympathy. Powerful people are often surprisingly terrible at behaving this way, but Marcus Aurelius, the most powerful man on earth during his reign, was renowned for his humanity in dealing with others. He told himself always to take a moment to remember his own failings and to contemplate how another might see the situation. He reminded himself, as we should, that most people are trying their best, even though that's easy to lose sight of in the rough
Starting point is 00:06:17 and tumble of daily life. Let's remember that today and think about each interaction from more than just our own point of view. That's the Daily Stoic Journal weekly entry. And we've got some quotes from Marcus Aurelius here. He says, Whenever someone has done wrong by you, immediately consider what notion of good or evil they had in doing it. For when you see that, you'll find compassion instead of astonishment or rage. For you yourself may have had the same notions of good and evil or similar ones, in which case you'll make an allowance for what they've done. But if you no longer hold the same notion, you'll be more readily gracious for their error." —Marcus Aurelius, Meditations 7, 26. And then he says,
Starting point is 00:07:05 when your sparring partner scratches or headbutts you, you don't then make a show of it or protest or view him with suspicion or as plotting against you. And yet you keep an eye on him, not as an enemy or with suspicion, but with a healthy avoidance. You should act this way with all things in life. We should give a pass to many things with our fellow trainees.
Starting point is 00:07:26 For, as I've said, it's possible to avoid without suspicion or hate." You know, I tell the story and stillness is the key. I open part one, the perception part of the book, the story of Kennedy and the Cuban Missile Crisis. Kennedy and Khrushchev face off over some nuclear ballistic missiles placed on the island of Cuba. And what's so remarkable about this moment, why I look at Kennedy and why I think he embodies
Starting point is 00:07:54 what Marcus Aurelius is talking about in both senses, both in the, why did they do this? What are they trying to do? And also, people are not great. They're gonna try to cheat or pull one over on you, but you can't let that break you or make you bitter. You've got to be cognizant and aware of it. Kennedy thinks not just what he's gonna do,
Starting point is 00:08:14 but he's conscious enough to think, what is Khrushchev going to do? What is Khrushchev trying to do with this? And in fact, Khrushchev's real fatal calculation is that he doesn't have a good read on Kennedy. He'd sort of bullied Kennedy at a conference, had seen Kennedy bungle the Bay of Pigs. He thought he knew Kennedy,
Starting point is 00:08:33 and he thought he knew America, but he didn't. He couldn't conceive of how America would react to these missiles right on that island. And Kennedy though realizes, especially when his military advisors are telling him, you gotta bomb Cuba, you gotta bomb the shit out of Cuba, we gotta go into a void World War III. Kennedy knows that to do that,
Starting point is 00:08:54 he thinks about Khrushchev, how they're in the same position. They're both leading these sort of loose coalitions and with divergent interests and are human beings, but also heads of state. He's really able to think about Khrushchev's position. And he says, look, I'm not worried even about what Khrushchev's going to do in response to what I'm going to do.
Starting point is 00:09:15 I'm worried about step six or seven in this chain of escalation. We think about things from people's perspective, not just because empathy is good, not just because justice is important, but strategically people's perspective, not just because empathy is good, not just because justice is important, but strategically it's essential, right? When I was in public relations, you would see people get so consumed with the truth of what they had to say or their own experience or their own point of view,
Starting point is 00:09:36 they couldn't concede that the reporter has their own interests, that the public has their own interests and position. To effectively navigate the world, to be successful, you've got to understand other people's perspective. You gotta think about what's going on with them. And this allows you to not only be more patient, more forgiving and more gracious as Marcus says,
Starting point is 00:09:57 but it also allows you to be more effective and successful at whatever it is that you are doing. So I urge you today to spend some time practicing, let's call it strategic empathy. It will make you better. But most importantly, as we saw in the Kennedy and Cuban Missile Crisis example, it may well save the world. It makes the world a better place if we are more empathetic with each other. As Seneca said, we're all wicked people in a wicked world.
Starting point is 00:10:22 If we can understand this, we can be kind and patient and tolerant and understanding. We will all get more of what we want and need. Hey, it's Ryan. Thank you for listening to the Daily Stoic podcast. I just wanted to say we so appreciate it. We love serving you. It's amazing to us that over 30 million people have downloaded these episodes in the couple years we've been doing it. It's an honor. Please spread the word, tell people about it, and this isn't to
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