The Dale Jr. Download - 208 - The Reddit Police and Dale’s Jewelry Phobia
Episode Date: March 6, 2018Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Mike Davis examine how a Reddit group has triggered discussion after the Vegas Cup race, great NASCAR motion pictures, carving a granite sink and Dale’s odd jewelry phobia. ... Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The boys are back in town.
We're back.
Hey, Mike.
What's up?
It's Dale Jr. and Mike Davis for another episode of the Dale Jr. download.
I sit here just enjoy this music.
I am. Are you?
You're loving the music.
Dude, it's a new day, man.
It's like this music intro.
I almost want to listen to this and not you.
Well, we got a lot to talk about.
We do.
What are some of our talk?
Well, first of all, we are back in the studio.
Like two weeks ago, we did this from an airport, and then we did it from the room 809 at the Seymark Hotel and what's it called, Gun Young, South Korea.
Now we're back at the Exhausted Studio.
It's good to be back.
We get to look at Matthew Dillner over here.
He's a poor thing.
Good to see you again.
Look, look, we got a lot to talk about.
We've got Harvick, who seems to be getting around the racetrack pretty good these days.
We got, I mean, Jimmy Johnson is still having some issues that I'd like to.
to ask you about.
We've got a lot of ask junior questions.
Social media is crazy this week.
Oh, my gosh.
We had a little bit of a media spat.
We had, you know, Noah Gragson trying to court Steve O'Donnell's daughter.
Reddit.
I don't know if anybody's a Reddit user in here, but there seems to be some issues with that.
I don't know.
I don't know if we can fit it all in an hour.
It's going to be a tough one.
Let's get to it.
From the Exaltzata studio, it's the Dale Jr. download.
What is this, Milly with ailly?
I tell you,
Dillner's up there, like Dijay Dillner.
That's your new name, buddy.
That's your new name.
I tell you what, first of all, Dale,
are we over the jet lag yet?
I am.
I think I actually got over it quicker than you did.
I'm not over it yet.
You're still having,
because I know you did a periscope at 1 o'clock in the morning
and walking your dog.
It was not 1 o'clock in the morning.
You said it was on the periscope.
No, I was up since 1,
but I was doing that for 5 o'clock in the morning.
I was fired up about dirty mo.
That's when I noticed that you were still jet lagged and I believe I was over it.
Oh, you were over it.
Yeah.
It took me about two days.
Last night I fell asleep.
I was watching the race and I fell asleep right before the end of it.
And that was like 6.30.
And I slept all the way until about four.
In the morning?
Yeah.
Yeah, you're still.
I'm still.
But don't sound like you're making much effort to fix it.
You're just kind of falling.
I feel like I am.
You're just kind of falling asleep whenever you feel like it.
That's something you need to, you need to put a little.
Grow up a little effort.
Costanza style.
Well, no, like you got to put effort to fix the jet lagg.
That's just happened.
How did you do it?
I pushed myself to stay up later and later each day to where I was going to bed at the hour.
I should be going to bed and staying, you know, waking up later.
Is there anything you miss about South Korea?
Well, I would say there's not a lot, you know, that I miss.
But that would be, that might give you the impression I didn't enjoy it.
No, no, I know you enjoyed it.
There's one particular thing I missed.
A toilet.
The heated toilet seat.
What?
They have heated toilet seats?
Oh my gosh.
It does a lot more than that.
Oh, my Lord.
What does it do?
Oh, yeah.
What does it do?
What does it do?
Did you do it?
Yeah.
So it's a bidet.
Yeah, you had to try it.
So?
But it had a seat.
It had a seat.
Like, bidets don't have like normal seats like American seats.
But this had an American seat.
I don't know.
I don't want to get into the...
What setting did you put it on?
Particulars.
No, no.
There were settings.
That's too much of a particulars.
I'm not trying to get it on that.
There were.
There were pictures on these settings, too.
It was an amazing, amazing toilet.
Amy said it's out of our budget and we're not getting one.
I tell my wife that I'd consider moving to South Korea just on the premise of that toilet seat.
I'm telling you, it was that good.
Yeah.
It was that good.
All right.
Let's talk about something else.
There was a race.
Yep.
Had a race at Vegas.
Las Vegas.
Did you ever enjoy racing at Las Vegas?
I did.
You know, when I was watching the race Sunday, I was thinking about, man, that top, that outline looks like a lot of fun.
and if anything, if there was anything I was missing about that whole experience,
was watching those guys run the high side and wishing I could get out there and do that a little bit.
Oh, Denny was running that high side.
He runs it pretty good.
Yeah, it's a fun track, and it's got a lot of, it's frustrating to get through turn one.
Turn one with all the bumps.
It's really frustrating to run down there, but some guys can get through there pretty good.
There was a lot about it that I didn't miss.
That would be one thing.
Did you see Jimmy Johnson have that awesome save going into turn three?
Almost wrecked.
Well, that was one of the good.
That was one of the few good things he had going on then that weekend.
Well, I wish that I had had the nerve or thought to tweet or say something and live tweet a little bit about the race.
I wanted to live tweet a little bit more than I did.
But when he was getting lapped, I had the nerve to say he's still going to finish in the top 10.
And you didn't tweet it.
I didn't.
Well, he didn't finish in the top top.
Almost.
12.
Yeah.
I was about to tweet that, though.
This guy somehow, somehow, will come back and finish in the top 10 as he's getting lapped for, you know, 35th place or whatever.
He fell two laps down.
Well, he only fell two laps down because they tried to run long on that one set of tires.
If he pitted whenever else did, he wouldn't have lost two laps,
not to say that that strategy was wrong,
but I think that it was exaggerated how far behind he fell because of that changing strategy.
They worked really hard, and I don't know that they were ever really competitive,
but they did scratch and call back into a 12th place finish,
which is pretty impressive.
Says a lot about Jimmy as a driver.
I tell you one place they weren't very competitive, getting through tech.
Yeah, they had a little trouble,
and they got their car chief thrown out.
Yeah.
Has that ever happened?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It happened last year, right?
Truex.
No, no, no.
It happened this year already.
Didn't have it last week.
Yeah, last week there was a car chief.
Truex is 78.
Truex was thrown out.
Yeah, got it.
That's the new thing.
So if they fail so many times.
The crew chief's good.
Car chief, gone.
Well, actually, I read where NASCAR can choose to put this person that gets thrown out,
depending on, I guess, the severity of the infraction and inspection that they're failing.
Oh, there's nothing that could go wrong with that.
I'm sure that's a great idea.
It could be something super serious and they may really drop the hammer.
That won't come up any time.
Yeah.
That won't be an issue.
But I was, you know, I'm telling you, man.
Jimmy kept his head together.
Says a lot about that team.
Once they find a little speed, man, I still think they got a good shot at trying to, you know,
win some race this year and give a run for that championship.
Remember these cars that they're running right now.
You know, yeah, I mean, they were touched in the shop like before this West Coast deal, too.
Mike Joy brought that up.
Mike Joy brought up a great point.
The cars that they took to Vegas were already prepared and loaded before they went to Atlanta.
So, I mean, the stuff that they're learning in just the first few races for this new Camaro,
you won't really be able to implement that for the first couple of weeks.
It'll take a while before they start to actually be able to implement the things they're learning in these first two or three weeks.
They'll be implementing those into week four, five, six car.
You know what I mean?
So have a little patience.
I know a lot of people won't remember, but the Toyota's, when they got a little bit of a new or
version of their car. They weren't fast right out of the gate. They ended up winning a championship
that year with Kyle and dominated pretty much the second half of the year. But up until the
middle of the summer, that season, nobody was too impressed with how the Toyota's running.
I'm still, I'm not losing hope or losing faith in Jimmy or any of those Chevys.
Did the Fords, do you have an opinion on the Fords already?
Well, I think it's interesting that they were all very, they were all very vocal about how
they, you know, they were doing well at Daytona, had speed.
especially Kiselowski and Lugano.
We're pretty chatty about their cars and basically saying,
yeah, we're okay, but when we go to Atlanta, we're going to be in trouble.
Because we have the oldest body out of all the manufacturers here,
and it's really going to be tough for us to compete.
So far, the Ford's have been one of the better manufacturers at both races.
You know, obviously you have Harvick dominating,
but even second on back in the top ten,
and a lot of, you know, the Penske cars are great.
All the Stewart House cars are running really well.
Ford's had four out of the top seven finishers and then six out of the top ten.
Yeah.
So the fact or the argument that the body's old and the car isn't going to perform well,
I think they're going to have, you know, have a great year.
They're off to a good start.
You know, what do you make of Kozlowski's comments?
Because he, is it just politicking?
And he does this.
And I sort of love him for it, be honest with you.
Oh, yeah.
Last year, you know, chirping about the Toyotas.
And now, you know, he goes into the weekend talking about how Ford's we're going to get, you just get, you know, what do you say?
They're going to get drubbed or.
You're going to take a drubbing.
Take a drubbing.
And they go in and there and take six out of the top ten, you know, finishing positions.
Is it politicking?
Yeah, I think it's exactly what it is.
I think that he wants to downplay their success.
I think he wants to exaggerate the performance of the other manufacturers and keep some focus on them and try to keep the playing field to their advantage.
and he's no different than other drivers that we've seen in years past,
especially back in the 80s and 90s before there was a real common template.
You know, they were chopping spoilers and valences on single manufacturers.
So, like, they would come down on the Chevroletes or the Fords individually.
NASCAR would give everyone else a little bigger spoiler,
and maybe the Fords or the Chevrolet is a smaller spoiler.
So, I mean, this has been something that's been common throughout the
sport for a real long time and i think that brad is really uh that's just his thing man he's
going to always try to be vocal and keep people guessing on what's real and what's not um what's the
truth and what's fiction um he seems to enjoy being that guy and and everybody's come to really
expect it out of him and and and it's entertaining so was there any part of him that you think
really thought that they were going to get it right well i'm sure that
He feels some concern in the date of their body and how old the body is.
But, man, they had a great season last year.
I mean, they were, they had some great cars last year.
I think that there's not much concern for the Ford's this year,
and I think that he's going to have a hard time continuing that conversation.
He's going to have a hard time carrying that.
Oh, no, he's not going to have a hard time carrying.
He'll carry it.
I know.
You're saying, how can he?
All right, he's been two, three races in, and Ford's are doing great.
How does he go to Phoenix and say that they're, you know, oh, we're struggling.
You're asking for logic.
You're asking for an explanation behind the brain of Brankislowski?
Well, I guess I'm interested in how he's going to word it this week.
Yeah, I think that Brad's going to probably really think through this.
He's going to study it up and he's going to come out and hit you with something that you didn't even expect.
And you're like, look, that's the unpredictability of Brackzlowski is one of the most underrated perks about being an NASCAR fan.
I mean, I'm telling you.
And the fact that he says some of those things, it just cracks.
It's comedy, is what it is.
It's comedy.
But like he'll say it while you're running first, second, third, and fourth.
You know, that's what I love about Brad.
I just was wondering if you thought that, look, listen, have you ever played into the politics?
I just spit across the room.
Sorry about that, if that landed on you.
I had a little bit of a flashback about our dinner at Korea.
Oh, man, we can't talk about that.
Yeah.
All right, so real quick, Matthew, there was a Korean.
guy that was enjoying his food
way too much. And man, if it didn't
land right on Dale Jr.
No, the guy had a mouthful.
All right. So it wasn't like
you land a shrimp piece on you? Oh, yeah.
So we're sitting at these tables, and it's the
kind where you sit on your butt and you take your shoes off.
You sit on the floor. Yeah. Not for me.
But there was a table. And
there was a family eating behind us,
and the guy had a mouthful of food, and he
sneezed, and it flew, and the food
flew all this food
shrap, like, little specks
of food flew across the room.
and got on me and everybody around me.
Oh, I was just, it was only me and Sam.
I was ready to leave.
The best part was, like, Dale Jr. made eye contact and like a little, yeah, that landed on me.
You know, like, there was a thing between that guy and Dale, and it was like, I didn't know.
Did he apologize?
Well, if he had, we wouldn't know.
Anyways, where were we?
We were talking about, let's move on.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's talk about the pit guns, pit stops.
Oh, the pit guns.
What are you making that stuff?
We noticed the pit stops are getting faster.
Yes.
All right.
So the guys are starting to learn.
That's really interesting.
I think for the fans is that the teams are starting to learn how to really get these
choreograph to where they're finding speed.
You're going to see some teams do a better job than others.
It's something to pay attention to.
We're also seeing some interesting issues with the pit guns that are recurring week to week.
You know, it's something to be worried about.
Obviously, you don't want to be the team that has the problem.
But I also think it's something that NASCAR and the pit gun manufacturers are going to
have to, and they will, they'll fix over time.
The other thing about it is, is don't you remember years ago, like Jack's failing,
pick guns failing?
Oh, yeah.
This is not.
No, it's not new.
It's a little bit too much to expect teams to go an entire season without failure.
But it's new because NASCAR, these are issued.
So that's why people are complaining about it more.
Okay, if you had a Brunshundle Jack or if you had some sort of pick gun you came up with, and it failed, it's on your own.
Yeah.
It's your deal.
And how much did they fail in the past that we never knew about?
You know, when they were team manufactured guns or, like you say, bought from different manufacturers,
it's only a big deal now because NASCAR brought this on the sport.
You know, NASCAR brought this into the sport.
So NASCAR always is such an easy target.
You've got to believe that the manufacturer of this gun is in panic mode to fix these problems,
and they will get fixed.
But that doesn't mean that you're not going to have a pit gun.
failure at some point in the year or a jack failure or a gas can failure such as the
whatever happened on a 55 car that one stop it looks like me yeah yeah things are going to happen
things are going to break and that's just the nature of the business not to understate that there
is a problem but i think it'll get fixed and i think that the teams will work with nascar they've
all they were talking about maybe allowing the teams to use their own sockets or the you know the
pick guys tire changers maybe to use particular pieces that they feel most comfortable with that
wouldn't alter the performance of the gun.
Okay.
And they did a great job moving from the Atlanta race to Vegas and allowing that whip hose, that extension.
That was huge.
To take a little bit of pressure off of the initial connection.
I think that, you know, that says that there's, you know, NASCAR's.
Yeah, NASCAR's trying.
They're going to fix it.
I counted what?
Three failures?
Was there three?
How many were there in that race?
I only knew of three for this race.
Yeah, that we know.
It seemed like more for Atlanta.
And the issues are similar through each failure, right?
it's that pin the socket coming off of the gun.
That's something that's not too terribly hard to fix.
I have a positive disposition about this issue.
Well, good for you.
That's very noble and professional.
It's positive to me it feels a lot like just tires.
I mean, like, you know, if NASCAR, you got the tire manufacturer.
I know it's not exactly apples to apples here,
but, you know, when tires go out, good year, you know,
they have an issue.
A good year works.
it's always a work in progress.
Teams will continue to push the limit on these things.
And NASCAR opened this up and can't be surprised by the reaction
when they decided they were going to be issuing these guns.
And really, the teams kind of have it themselves to blame for it.
Isn't that why we have these NASCAR-issued guns to try to keep the cost down
and also to, I mean, teams were going off, inventing their own guns.
And it was like, you got out of hand.
The one thing that I hope comes out of the whole situation is that it puts the,
it puts focus back on.
on the actual tire changers and the pit crews,
that they become prominent again for their ability
and not the ability of the equipment that they have.
We look back on the sport,
and you can remember pit crews that were popular
and celebrities even for their ability,
the flying aces the dad had,
the brothers for so long.
And in the last few years, yeah, the Jeff Gordon.
Rainbow Warriors.
I mean, those, you know, we talked about them because we thought that they were making the difference.
And in the last several years, it's become more about the equipment.
Yeah.
So this puts it back in the hands of the tire changers, and hopefully that's the result.
By the end of the year, when we're celebrating that all-star crew, it's because of their ability to actual,
they're actually given ability to do their job.
Something else that popped up after the race.
It was really interesting.
and this happened last year at Chicago with Chase Elliott.
The NASCAR Reddit folks have brought attention some things that they saw on Harvick's car.
And I find this extremely interesting because not so much about Harvick's car and are they doing anything illegal.
I find it more interesting because the car passed tech before the race and after the race.
I find it more interesting.
We know that NASCAR reacted to last year's situation with Chase.
Let's recall what happened.
There was a post-race interview of somebody else, and I think a crew member on Chase Elliott's team was seen in the background of pulling something.
Pulling tape off of his car as a way to, you know.
Spoiler.
And it was brought to attention by a Reddit user.
Was it not?
It was a Reddit user.
And ultimately, ultimately, and I can't say for sure.
The Reddit police.
I think that's a good name for them.
They need their own siren.
I can't say.
I think our assumption is that NASCAR's penalty had to have come from the fact that Reddit user brought this to attention, right?
That's my assumption anyways.
It was.
Now you have another situation where a Reddit user has taken pictures and brought to our attention something on Harvick's car.
Now, what was it?
What were they taking pictures of?
The roof of the car seems to have some kind of.
irregular deflection. It's something at speed that, you know, it seems to be altering the shape of the roof.
My, you know, I could care less really about how, what Harvick and them guys have figured out.
I think if they are actually doing something that really kind of pops back into place when the race is over,
it's pretty incredible, to be honest with you. Impressive? That would be impressive. I need to know
that information now. My truck has too many dents in it. I need to know how to pop those things out.
I need to know what they're doing. My reaction really is a,
the relationship between NASCAR and Reddit.
Oh, yeah.
This is tricky.
Yeah.
So, we don't know.
We're only assuming that NASCAR reacted to the deal with Chase last year
because of the work that Reddit did on social media.
Yeah, it's a court of public opinion, really, you know.
And is NASCAR going to get in the habit of reacting when the Reddit police?
You're saying Reddit, but really, these are just, these are fans.
These are NASCAR fans.
I know, but they're organized in a group.
Well, they go to Reddit.
They are a community on Reddit.
I know, but if they're not organized and in a community, they're just, it's just noise.
All right.
So that they are organized and they are powerful enough to be heard as a group.
They hammer on Gluck and all those guys on social media.
They even hammered directly to Steve O'Donnell in their timelines about anything that
they see.
And they got a little bit of attention last year because of this.
They feel, and there's a public opinion that they were the ones that investigated the Chase
Elliott thing, and that brought a lot of exposure to NASCAR Reddit and their group and
encouraging them, I guess, to continue their efforts.
And here we are in the third race of the season, and it's popped up again.
Now, when we get down into the chase and this is going on, it's going to get louder.
Oh, Lordy.
Yeah.
Don't you feel like this gets a little dangerous?
I think it is dangerous.
I think I'm more curious, really.
I'm more curious about how NASCAR reacts to this going forward.
Is this even, they have to think that they need to ignore this?
Can they ignore it?
Is it possible that they can ignore it?
And do they not ignore it but just don't admit that they know?
That's another thing.
That's another direction.
Like, of course they got to recognize it.
but do they literally come out?
In fact, how did they handle the Chase Elliott situation?
Well, I mean, it was pointed out by a Reddit user,
and then it just became a firestorm and NASCAR reacted to it.
But do you think NASCAR is going to react in some way to this one?
No.
They won't react directly to this.
Is it illegal?
I don't know if it's illegal.
I don't know because the car passes tech before and after,
so in my mind, this car is legal.
The car is legal and it's inspected.
Right.
It's incredible ingenuity.
Yes, it is.
It is.
And so what I'm concerned about, and I don't know that NASCAR can react directly, deliberately to the four team.
Can they try to react going forward to not allow, to find out ways to not allow.
Like they did with the sideskirts?
Well, what is probably going to happen is that nothing's going to happen until we,
get the composite body in the cup series.
Is that a fix-all? I don't know.
But NASCAR's opinion is it's a fix-all.
They put the composite body in the Xfinity series with the idea that it'll stop the teams
from manipulating the sides and so forth that everybody was guilty of, right?
And I think that NASCAR may look at this and go, well, you know, one day we'll get
the composite body in the cup series and that will alleviate these issues.
But my concern is how does NASCAR react to the family?
and policing or attempting to police a sport.
How do they react going forward?
That's really critical.
And then also, this isn't that big of a deal today,
but in the chase or the playoffs,
when these wins are advancing teams into the next round and so forth,
the sounding board and the pedestal that organized group on social media has
is going to be much bigger and much louder.
You know, they'll be almost impossible to ignore.
At least they know what to look for now.
They may not rule on it.
They're getting smarter, just like everybody else.
But at least it's brought out.
You're talking about NASCAR.
Yeah, I mean, like you said, I agree with you.
I don't think they're going to do anything, but it's all knowledge.
They see it.
You're going to see it.
Here's what I want to ask you.
I know that teams have photographer.
Teams are taking pictures of every car out on the racetrack.
And in fact, I would even go so far to say it's probably not too far removed that they have people in every corner, right?
to look at this.
So this can't be news, even though it's just news to Reddit and us.
Like, this can't be something that just the teams go, oh, my gosh, what was Harvick doing?
Like, is this new?
You're not that far removed from the car yourself.
Well, as far as, I mean, guys have been trying to figure out ways and been successful at getting the bodies to manipulate themselves at speed.
During the race.
Yeah.
You can look at the doors of the cars as they're sitting still and then pictures of.
the cars that they post during the race and see that the doors are all kind of warping around
and doing different things.
And NASCAR's trying to do a better job at trying to eliminate that.
And their opinion really is the composite body will do that.
This is the first time I've ever seen it on the roof.
But I talked to another driver who says he's seen it all the time out on the racetrack
and seen it in more severe cases and cars that are getting lapped.
They ain't even, you know.
Oh, so it wasn't really helping them.
It doesn't seem to even be affecting these guys.
We heard about Chase Elliott seeing this particular instance on the four car and bringing it up to his crew chief.
That's common too.
I mean, I spent the last five years of my career, hell in my crew chief, anything I saw on the car that I thought might help that car around me.
Where his track bar look like it was, you know, is his track bar high on the right side or low on the right side or the left side?
Where's his damn track bar at?
Does the car look like it's dog tracking?
Does he look like he's making skew somewhere?
where does he have something flared or does he, you know,
at the speedways is the spoiler and the decklids sinking down into the car
to get the spoiler out of air?
Is there a way that he's, you know, raised up the deck lid somehow
to bring the spoiler up at the mile and a halfs, you know,
to gain some rear rear downforce?
So drivers are always looking.
One of the, like at speedways,
a trick is to try to get the roof flaps to come up somewhat down the straightaway.
And you'd see cars out there running around with the roof.
flap about half an inch up in the air.
And when the car would slow down, it'd come back down.
Just because they'd found a way to change the pressure inside the car versus what was on the
outside that at speed, it'd raise that flap up.
I mean, this isn't new.
I think that what we're seeing out of Harvick's car in these pictures is a, it's new in
that space, which makes it so interesting to everybody who sees it.
Teams are always going to find new ways to try to gain speed.
And, you know, they've been, but they've been working to try to find ways to manipulate
the bodies for a really long time, and a lot of teams have found good success in it.
But it's incredible that it pops back into place.
I know, right?
Yeah, like it doesn't deform and stay that way, or at least get deformed enough to not, you know,
not pass tech and be a little bit off once the car slows down.
Much like a spring, if you, you know, if you tried to run a certain spring,
when they would limit the rate of the springs, and an entire race would beat it up and make it not rate right,
and they'd fail because the spring was too soft after the race.
But somehow or another thing popped back into place perfectly.
I mean, everybody's...
This is profound stuff not just in the racing industry,
but in the auto repair, auto body industry.
I'm telling you right now, you can find me a car that pops back into place.
I've got a new leaks on life.
Hey, we'll just open up a body shop.
Right.
Other than his car looking like a tree limb fell on it,
there's got to be something else going on with Harvick because he's dominating.
Yeah, I mean, Harvick's been fast before.
This reminds me of how he ran when he won the championship.
And they didn't have the body modification that we see this past weekend.
So he has speed regardless.
I'm just really more curious as to how NASCAR will react to the noises that they're hearing from social media, the Reddit police.
Is that going to be something that NASCAR gets in the habit of reacting to?
I don't know that they need to be, what do you think?
I mean, do you think that?
I think Steve O'Donnell has a closet account, and he is the Reddit user.
He's the Reddit user.
Oh, man.
He's a Reddit Sheriff.
He's on, yeah.
He's his name.
He's the Redis Sheriff.
Hey, you know, Harvick does have something going for him, by the way.
He's 42.
There you go.
The old guys, man.
You know, all this talk going into the season, that it's all just going to be young guys.
Yeah.
As tough a day as Jimmy Johnson had on Sunday.
he was chirping on social media afterwards about how the old guys are kicking everybody's ass.
And I really think that that, I picked up on everybody talking about that at Media Day in Charlotte,
the young guys, the old guys, the young guys.
And it seemed to spur both sides, you know, into a debate.
And so I think that that's going to be fun all year long.
As far right now, the old guys have the upper hand.
Yeah.
Can we get these young guys to start chatter?
boxing a little bit and running their mouths a little bit about how they're going to
they're going to turn the tide somewhat when they win a race are they going to get on the
stand and sound off a little bit about the old guys who would be that person yeah who would be the young
guy's part there's a lot of old chirpers who'd be the new young chirpers the old guys are in the
right not chase it's not really blaney even i don't know blammy spow blaney spoke up when
he'll have fun with him a little bit yeah as long as it's done and fun man that's a cool thing
I like that.
It's just going to be a fun, you know, conversation all year long.
But right now, yeah, the old guys are making it happen.
Let's talk about the NASCAR movie.
Best NASCAR movie all time.
That was on social media, right?
That was a tweet.
So let's talk about it.
Did you see that?
Let's do that.
Was that like a Western?
A little Western man.
I was inspired by your old Western town, I guess.
And you're in the Western.
And I'm in there.
You're kicking something?
Yeah, I was kicking a beer can.
I hear you.
Yeah.
All right, so this is the, did you see that?
Yeah, and the Western style.
So you're saying that NBC put out a tweet,
and you're saying that they were saying the best racing movie of all time.
The only thing I need to drop on this is that they did not have the last American hero as one of the choices.
Well, you know why.
Shame, shame.
They had three picks and then, you know, if it's not listed here, tell us what it is.
Is it, you know.
People got fired up.
Yeah.
All right.
Why?
It's not the best movie of all time.
Which one is?
Grand Prix.
That's not a NASCAR movie.
That's one of the best racing movies.
You think Days of Dunders?
Yes.
Are you serious?
No.
Have you seen the movie I'm referring to?
I've read the book.
So you can't even speak on it.
Come on, man.
I like the book.
It's on YouTube.
I've not seen it.
Yeah.
But it's better than Days of Thunder?
Yeah.
Okay.
So Last American Heroes about Junior.
Johnson.
And it was made in 71.
Jeff Bridges is a starring actor.
It was made before movies got to become spectacles.
You know, so Days of Thunder was a great example of a movie that's just really, there's a lot
of far-fetched, you know, stretched.
Truths and, yeah.
A lot of effects.
Yeah.
A lot of effects.
So there's a lot of things in there that are like, oh, come on, man, now.
This is not.
And the Last American Hero was made before movies really got to that point to where
they become, you know, a little bit out of the scope of reality.
It also is a real legitimate story about how it happened.
It's the truth.
It's a real, you know, much like people appreciate Grand Prix for being authentic.
Well, The Last American Hero is very authentic to racing in that time,
and it tells a great story about a guy sort of working his way up.
Is it the exact same story of Junior Johnson?
Probably not, but it's really authentic to how racing was back then.
Days of Thunder, not authentic.
to NASCAR.
It was.
It's as authentic to NASCAR as
Ricky Bobby.
No, that's not true.
Not true.
Come on.
You know what?
We got a special match set of tires.
You can run the high side.
Nobody says that.
No crew chief is on the radio going,
you can run the top, trust me.
Well, all right, then.
Our racing is the same as Mario Car.
Oh, come on.
You're just pissed off.
I agreed with you on that one,
because I thought it was bad that they left that one off.
But I got to say, that's my,
I would consider that the best NASCAR movie of all time.
but my favorite, I'm just coming out there because I got to stand up for my boy, Brewster Baker.
Six-pack, man.
Yeah.
I mean, it was, that one has had a lot of far-fetched.
My favorite is not the last American hero.
What's your favorite?
My favorite is Stroker Ace.
I just find it entertaining.
I think that there's a lot of things in there that are just really great.
And Brewster Baker, six-pack is close second, but the most, the best, you know, the most authentic to me would be,
the Last American Hero.
Also, utter versus Pocrys.
So, yeah.
Did you see that?
I did see this, and I love a good media spat.
Trust me.
And apparently O'Donnell does, too, because he even chirped in there.
Yeah.
Give us a background.
Yeah, tell us about this, Matthew.
I mean, so Bob Pockras, I think, if I get this right,
he had a list that he compiled of the top prospects of NASCAR.
20 of the best prospects that he deemed personally.
that was his opinion, so he has the right to it, of people that have not raced more than 10 cup races
who he considers the best prospects. They could be in Xfinity, they can be in truck. And the beef that
Jim Utter had, I never agree with Utter. I think I've agreed with Utter maybe one time and
2,000 times, to be honest with you. He had a point. He left Noah Gregson off there. And they had,
he had late model guys listed in there that have never run anything yet. Natalie Decker listed his 20th,
who just has one arc of pole at Daytona, so he's got a beef.
So there's a little clash of like the typewriter Titans going on there.
Bob says in defense of himself, thanks for reading and retweeting, Jim Utter.
Glaxen finished on lead lap of 14 of 23 truck races and had an average finish in trucks of 11.6.
Has a win.
Certainly he is on the radar and one I'm watching for the next time I do the list.
Nice, Bob.
Speaking to Noah Gragson.
Oh, boy.
Did you see him and O'Donnell going back and forth?
I did see that.
That was hysterical.
In fact, to be honest with you, I know that Noah Glaxen is, you know, this hot young
shoe and everything, but I haven't really paid attention until that.
That was funny.
The dude is funny as half.
Now I might be a Noah Glaxen fan.
You didn't look at the stuff when he was snorting wasabi or doing what he was doing?
I'm proud of Noah.
I'm proud of Noah because just a few weeks ago he got a bunch of back.
backlash because of a comment he made about when he was in this wreck at Daytona in the truck series in 2017, how he, oh, I tried to take everybody out as many as I could as I was spinning out of control, which was a joke.
Right.
And everybody thought he was being serious.
And he said, you know what?
I'm done with Twitter being sarcastic.
Y'all done, you know, piss me off.
I'm not going to be any fun anymore.
Well, he proved us wrong.
And did he come back with a vengeance?
I believe he did.
And he came back at the one guy.
Maybe you don't mess with aside from.
Mike Hilton is Steve O'Donnell, right?
That's right.
So apparently...
It didn't stop you, but go ahead.
Well, Steve's daughter was,
Steve was proud of his daughter.
She was singing, she obviously sings in,
something at school or something.
I don't even know what it was, but...
I don't either.
Yeah, so she's a beautiful voice.
A little clip, little clip for her singing.
Singing solo in this performance of hers,
and Noah chimed in says she ever needs a Valentine,
I'll be her Valentine.
O'Donnell says, you're crazy, you better back off.
and everything was great until Steve's daughter tweets
that Noah's chicken to even talk to her.
So, yeah, that happened.
Which I don't believe that, man,
because Noah's got some game, at least like,
I don't know if he's got game when it comes down to it.
I thought this was just going to, you know,
this was just going to disappear,
but I think it's still going for a few more days.
How old is she?
She's 17.
And how old is he?
And he is 19.
And basically she called him out for not having game.
But Noah, man, I thought the coolest part about that whole tweet deal was the fact that they posted that picture of the two of them,
and he referenced O'Donnell as his future father of all.
Yeah.
That was beautiful.
Bravo to Noah.
That's awesome to see those young drivers showing their personality.
All right.
We've just mentioned three.
Did you see that?
What is your favorite of this this week?
Is it Utter versus Pockrass?
Is it Noah Graxon and Steve O'Donnell?
Or is it your ability to get in your movie as the favorite NASCAR movie?
I think the most interesting or profound is one we mentioned earlier in the show,
and that's the NASCAR Reddit Police.
Where's that going to go over the next several weeks?
Are they going to keep this up week after week after week for any winning car?
They're going to have pictures about different things that they see on it that they wonder or might be illegal or illegal.
Are you on Reddit?
I follow Reddit on social media just for that reason.
Well, yeah, but that's not what I'm talking about.
Are you a Reddit user?
I've never used Reddit.
Will you?
I don't know.
I think I...
I mean, you seem interested in that now where you're right?
Maybe I am or am I Reddit user because I follow Reddit and when I see something.
Wait, wait, I'm not done.
Okay, go ahead.
I follow Reddit and I see something they're talking about it and I hit and go on to the site.
I'm not commenting.
I'm not commenting on posts.
Am I ready to user or not?
No.
I'm just an observer.
Observer, yeah.
Well, that's what I'll be.
But I think it's, a lot of the stuff that they post is really fun.
It's really fun.
That's mine.
What is yours?
Oh, my favorite has to be.
I mean, pockrace and utter.
Dude, I just love any time we see those guys go out of.
I had no idea.
I could just see them on the line, getting food at the media center, man,
and just kind of chirping each other.
You say you never agree with Jim Utter.
Listen, maybe not never.
I got you.
I know what you mean by that.
Jim Utter, his opinions, for better or worse, he stands on them to a fault.
He was right on this one.
He almost, yeah, but like even though stuff, like he does not know how to back down,
even though just just comment on Twitter.
It becomes this thing.
And so it just, it's very rare that you see him and Bob Pockras.
At least I think so.
I haven't noticed him to go at it.
And I thought Bob handled it.
Well, I don't know.
It was enjoyable.
I enjoyed watching.
I hope they do it again this week.
Chances are they won't.
Let's go to some Ask Junior questions.
It's time for Ask Junior.
I got a question.
You have a question for me?
Hit us up on Twitter using the hashtag Ask Junior.
Say what?
If your question doesn't suck, we may answer.
All right, man. Yeah, if your question doesn't suck, we won't answer. There was a few on there this week that I just scratched my head, man. I really scratched my head. I think they suck. So we only got, we only really have like three this week, but they were pretty good ones. Jessica, I'm going to get picky here with Ask Junior. We want some good creative questions, folks. So come on with it. So Jessica wants to know, what do you, and I like this, what do you think of the Martin'sville bringing back to Jesse Jones hot dog? I can't wait. You know what I'm so excited about this? We have a automata.
be at on Sunday during the race.
So I'm at an automa
I'm actually thinking of
driving up to the racetrack either Friday
or Saturday just
for the hot dogs.
So you're going to roll in.
I'm going to roll in, get some hot dogs, and say hey to a few people.
And I'll leave.
All the way?
What?
The hot dog.
Oh, no, no, no.
I like mine with just mustard and chili.
That's all right.
As long as you get the chili on it, you're good with me.
I don't like to slough on there, whatever.
Or relish or whatever.
I'm not down with that.
Of that entire hot dog, the slaw is the part you don't like.
It's not the fluorescent red.
They're so...
They're like, I don't like that part of the dog.
They're good.
They are good, man.
They're so good.
I was scared of them when I was like five years old sitting in the grandstands,
watching late model sportsmen there.
And when I became an adult, I realized the things taste good.
Yeah.
All right.
Chris Duncan wants to know, is there any chance we'll ever see a junior motorsports team
compete in the Monster Energy Cup series?
You know, I said no, and we like being in the Xfinity series, but we do.
We love being an Xfinity series, and we got a great business model for that.
But if it was financially a smart decision, you'd have to try it.
And we got enough infrastructure here that if it was financially a wise choice, I mean, we don't know where this is going.
The field counts are down to 36 cars.
If you can go in there and make some money and have some fun and race and run well, you know,
you might not go out there and beat the big mess.
megabuck teams right out of the gate.
If you could run into top 25 or something like that on the regular, man, that'd be kind of fun
to try.
This is the first time you have net.
This is the first time you've ever not answered that question with no.
Yeah.
Do you understand how big a deal this is?
I'm not saying that it's going to happen and don't think that that's our direction or our,
we're not, there's no vision to get there.
Got it.
No vision.
But I'm certainly watching the state of the sport.
And if it becomes a situation where it's financially.
a good to sit I mean I love racing I love to be racing but I also got you know I also got to think about
I think I hold my opportunity as a broadcaster way above competing as an owner in the cup series
and if that you know trying to be an owner would would adversely affect my opportunity to be in a
broadcaster I'd have to consider not not doing that all right uh Dustin horn wants to know the
renovation house is looking good what are your plans to do with it when you're finished
vacation home? Yeah, well, it's a great house, and we are nearly, nearly done with it.
And it's been a long, long process, one that we have been involved in from very start.
We are editing this show down to four episodes, 30 minutes apiece. It'll be on DIY network sometime in the mid to late summer, hopefully.
I'm not sure what we're going to do with it.
Well, you sure were working hard this week on a, okay, you took like this big, huge piece of what, like granite,
like, you were working.
That's crazy.
We found this granite block underneath the house,
so we've been keeping anything like that in case we need to use it
or would find any use for it.
And Amy's like, man, I want this outdoor bathroom to have a granite sink.
I stunk, totally by coincidence, stumbled across a Twitter video
of a guy making a sink out of granite block.
I swear.
Totally by coincidence.
And then I flew down there to work on the house for a couple of days.
and our contractor, Steve, was like,
man, I want to make this sink out of this granite block.
I'm like, I just saw this video a couple days ago.
How crazy is that?
And I know exactly how to do it.
And he's like, no, you don't.
Let me show you.
And I'm like, nope.
I did the whole thing except
drilling the hole for the drain
and beveling that out.
I let him do that because it was really something
needed to be super precise.
And we had to drill the hole from the bottom of the sink.
And he needed to do that very carefully.
so it didn't chip and bust out the sink.
So you scooped out the sink part, though.
Yes. I scooped in.
I made the sink itself, and I cut the block in half to shallow up the block itself,
so it's just not this giant, you know.
I did all the things that you saw on social media, but I did not drill a hole for the drain.
That's all.
The only thing left for the thing is to be polished.
We had to take this, we had to get a certain particular tool to polish all that,
but it was hard to make, took two days.
I enjoyed doing it, and I've done it.
I've done a lot of different projects in that house that I thought I'd never be doing.
And it's terming quite the handyman.
So now it's funny, I walk around my own properties and go, man, I can fix that.
You know?
So I've gotten myself into doing a lot of my own work instead of hiring a guy or calling somebody to come in and fix it.
I've been taking care of some of the odd jobs around my own properties, which has been pretty fun.
Stuff's not quite as hard as it looks.
When does it say?
I'm hoping that they're going to air it late summer or like July, August.
Yeah.
I can't wait for that first person to step to you on social media,
accusing you of not having to do the real work.
Because I don't think that we could have ever imagined when this opportunity landed in front of our laps,
how much work you were actually doing.
And I'd almost be wanted to ask you, would you have agreed to it if you realized how much work it was?
I figured that we would
I figured we'd be doing the work
I mean and plus you get
The thing is is you get down there
And if you don't want to work
It's the day is long
Like it takes forever
For 5 o'clock to come
So the only way for 5 to get here quick
Is to be busy and doing
And there's a lot of times
When they're not filming
And I'm just I just keep working
On a project
Because I just want the day to go by
You know what I mean
It is miserable if you
if they're like, all right, we're not going to film for the next hour,
and you're standing around watching all these other guys work?
It just sucks.
So you'd still do it?
Yeah, I'd still do it.
And there's, I mean, when it's four or five o'clock, I'm out.
I go, I go wash my hands, and I take my tool belt off, and I'm done.
Yes, I mean, I'm not in there.
I'm not working as hard as the contractor or the sub guys.
And plus, we can't be there every single day, like a lot of those guys.
We're obviously at the Super Bowl and South Korea,
and there we missed a chunk of time and opportunity to work on the house.
But you're getting your hands dirty.
When we're there, we're busy.
I'm looking forward to seeing these episodes on the DIY network.
Me too.
This will be good.
This will be good to see.
Hey, man, I was scouring the internet for all this stuff for this show.
I admit that I am late to the game on this deal, that Elon Musk guy launched a rocket into space.
Now, it wasn't just a regular rocket.
I just found out from our IT guy, Martin upstairs, who said, did you know that they attached a car to this rocket?
A Tesla, his roadster onto this thing.
So there's a rocket right now holding a car going to space, going to Mars, which is insane.
It's going like 7,000 miles an hour.
It's like 5 million miles from Earth right now.
Do you think that's nuts?
A, but number two, I want to know this kind of sparked something in me.
What would y'all, if you had a rocket, what would you want to strap onto a rocket and send to outer space?
My ex-girlfriend.
Oh, man.
Oh, no.
You've been married so long.
You're too over?
I have.
Whatever happened to y'all?
It's the first thing that came to mind.
Hey, all right, so...
What would you...
Is there anything cool that you would strap to a rocket?
Because there's obviously pictures of it, and it would be cool to know,
man, I sent this to Mars.
I think that that thing's actually just going to go into orbit.
Yeah, it's not attached to a rocket anymore.
It's done. It's floating.
Yeah, the rocket's floating.
The rocket's got a little spaceman in it.
Yes.
Yeah.
But it's not actually intended to hit any planet.
But I think that they've done enough...
Until it does.
Until it does.
Yeah, they've done enough simulations to know.
that it probably will land either on Mars or Earth.
Would you put one of your old race cars on it or something, man?
That would be kind of cool.
Seeing 88 flying up there in space.
I don't know if I give it.
I don't know.
I don't know.
The ex-girlfriend is starting to seem kind of a good idea.
No.
Yeah.
She wouldn't last.
Send a couple of them on up there.
No.
Like, you didn't need to send something that.
The one didn't call you back?
Go ahead.
Send her on to a trip.
It'd probably be something like a big giant,
a book or something.
in a box, like something with like a media stick or something with all kinds of pictures.
And if there was a way for them, whoever found it to download the information on it and look at what's on there, maybe it'd be like...
So send some knowledge out there just in case.
Yeah.
There's some extraterrestrials.
Yeah.
So I'd do that.
It'd be like information.
I got you.
That might...
Nothing that would be, is incredulous the right word?
That's pretty impressive.
Mike's Googling it right now.
Go with it.
He's Googling it.
Nothing that would get you get you.
get you or anybody in trouble, like, we wouldn't give away secrets to come and take us over, but
one of Harvicks, one of Harvick's roofs.
No, they already have that technology.
Reddit's got that, yeah.
All right, white flag.
Listen, I don't actually have a script.
I took a picture of your schedule, so here we go.
Tommy Tomlinson, did he actually say win your podcast?
He didn't.
Okay, so Dale Jr. did before we started this show.
He actually did an interview with Tommy Tomlinson, our old friend from ESPN, who wrote
that fantastic piece of Dale Jr.
about a year,
year and a half ago for ESPN.
So he has a podcast now,
and Dale Jr. is going to do a podcast,
and I don't know when it's going to come out,
and neither does Dell,
so listen for it.
We'll let you know.
Tomorrow, Del Jr. has a production for Kalo.
Do you want to talk about this?
Yeah.
So me and Amy have a new deal with Kalo.
The reason why that fits in our brand is because I have a...
Because you're married.
We're married, but I also...
have a jewelry phobia and don't want to wear metal rings my wedding ring is actually a wooden ring and I don't want to wear that too much because I could get scratched or broken and so I wear calo rings which are like a rubber composite sort of material yeah and they're very very comfortable and they come in all one thing that I like about them is they come in all kinds of different colors so I can try to kind of change it up and wear different ones and if you lose it 20 bucks you know get another one that's going to be calo's
like slogan.
It's like,
Kalo,
for those who have jewelry phobia,
if you,
if you lose your stuff,
you won't get screwed.
Yeah,
just 20 bucks.
Mike liked the jewelry phobia one.
I've been wearing their product
for good damn reason.
Yeah.
Because my jewelry phobia is real.
The question is,
does that,
did this,
did your jewelry phobia
actually lead to a PSA?
And I think it is.
I think we can say yes.
It actually did.
And Amy thought that I was making it up
and that there's no such thing
as a jewelry phobia.
I've never heard of it.
There is a word, one of them long crazy words, but it's real.
There's people that have it.
Oh, right, hold on.
You don't really have a jewelry phobia.
So are you like, come on.
You don't like wearing it, or you like?
I don't like wearing it, and I don't like being close to it.
Like, I can be on the other side of the room.
So if Mr. T comes to hang out with you, you're done.
I would be almost nauseous.
Really?
Next to him.
Yes.
I wouldn't know what the work.
I'm scared of dentists.
I never heard of scared of jewelry.
I mean, no disrespect, but.
I don't want to come near you.
I can take this off.
It's all right over there.
If you're in a room with a dentist, you're okay, right?
As long as he's not over the top of you with a drill, you're in good shape.
Well, that's me and jewelry.
It's called cosmophobia.
Cosmophobia.
All right.
There you go.
On Thursday, you've got a Tallahassee dealership visit.
You're going to tell everybody so they show up.
Is it not a public?
No.
Hey, everybody, do not.
Whatever you do.
Stay away from Tallahassee.
Whatever you do, do not go to Tallahassee.
You said you were going to Guam.
Unless.
You buy a car.
If they buy a car, will you at least say hi to them?
Yes, of course.
But I'm going there to say hello to the employees and see how things are going.
All right.
We don't want to give people opinion that we're going there for a fan day,
which we have one of those from time to time.
All right.
But if they buy a car, dang it.
If you come and buy.
Dale Jr. will go out there and take a picture.
I'll see you there.
Yeah.
I'll see you there.
There you go.
I'm only going to be there for a couple hours.
Can I tell people about the otorama or is that bad Saturday?
Chicago, Illinois.
You're not going to tell them about the nationwide appearance?
That's not a public appearance.
But it's something we're doing.
All right, by all me, hey, you know what?
After you buy your car.
You're on the white flag.
After you buy your car Tallahasse.
No, if you'll shut up, I'll get to it.
After you buy your car, Tallahassee, go drive to Hollywood, Florida,
where Nationwide is having a non-public event that Del Jr. will appear
but he's got to get in.
There's got to be a door, camp out by the door,
see Del again.
How's that?
All right.
That's nationwide on Thursday.
Then on Saturday, the Autorama autograph session in Chicago.
How did that go this week?
The Autorama was a lot of fun.
Went to Detroit this week.
It was a two-hour autograph session.
We stayed a little later than that because I was late.
I was about 15, 20 minutes late, so we stayed beyond our time.
Why were you late?
I was seven minutes late off the plane,
and then traffic was worse than we anticipated.
There were a couple of road.
lane closings on our trip.
It was great.
A lot of fun.
Very well organized.
I will say this.
I don't know how it's going to be at every event, but this is just a warning.
The first person that got their autograph had been in line for five hours.
The person that was last to get an autograph had been in line for two hours.
So if you anticipate getting an autograph, don't get in line early.
Late.
Or don't get in late.
Right.
Yeah.
Don't show up during the autograph session expecting to hop in line and get your autograph.
because we're only going to be there for two hours signing.
We're only going to be there for two hours signing.
So I just give you a fair warning.
I think that next week we are actually going to be doing this podcast from Stanford, Connecticut,
because I think we're going to be there.
Jeff Beinkie is saying, we're going up to NASCAR America.
We're going up to NBC Sports.
I mean, we're going to be there.
NASCAR America.
I know we're going to be there.
I couldn't remember if we were doing our podcast there, but we are.
Yep.
So NASCAR America on NBC at 5 o'clock.
every day of the week, well, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.
I'm going to be on that show, just like all our other NBC hosts and analysts and so forth, you know.
So I'll be on that show throughout the rest of the year.
I'm going to do my first two appearances on NASCAR America, the 12th and 13th of this month, right?
March.
That's next week.
Yeah.
These podcasts, there's going to be clips for these podcasts also on the show this week.
There you go.
NASCAR America, this is going to be a big deal.
This is when it really becomes real, doesn't it?
All right, guys, that's it.
What else?
Anything else?
That's it for White Flag.
Closing thoughts?
Closing thoughts.
That was a pretty good show, man.
A lot of content there.
Don't forget, we're going to be at the Autorama this Sunday.
That's right.
In Chicago.
Look it up.
Autorama.com.
Everybody's like, where exactly in Chicago?
I don't know.
Who knows?
I'll look it up.
It's just Chicago, right.
Use it.
Yeah.
Don't bring jewelry.
Oh, God.
Don't do that.
Like, don't do that.
I'm helping out.
I don't want you to get scared at your honor off.
We're going to leave you with a track from the Dangerous Summer as usual.
Thanks to host us records for giving us to use it.
Thank you, Overs.
This song is when I get home.
I miss the car.
