The Dale Jr. Download - 234 - Acts of Desperation

Episode Date: October 2, 2018

Dale Earnhardt Jr. and the DJD guys discuss all angles of the ROVAL and how it may save Charlotte Motor Speedway, the last lap melee between Jimmie Johnson and Martin Truex Jr, layers of drama at Martinsville and more. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

He's there. Look, he's there. What a great corner. Hey, everybody's Dylan Hart Jr. Back for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download with my co-host, Mike Davis, our producer and editor, Matthew, Dilloner. What's up? Good job on that open.

Matthew. That was a little Joe Rogan-esque. That was. Hey, good point. Yeah. I haven't heard it back, the call for the finish of the race. You haven't? Yeah.

I find myself, you know, I know I'm yelling. I know that I'm yelling. You know, I know people. People are like, hey, stop yelling. I saw that. Somebody said that on Twitter yesterday. Yeah, I see it every once in a while. You know, I can't help it.

But listening back to it, yeah, I'm yelling. No, no, don't stop. Don't change that. It's not golf. Dude. That's, that's, that's. No, no, I'm not going to change it. I'm just saying, I've not, I hate to admit this, because this is probably not good practice,

but I don't go back and rewatch the races. I haven't got really comfortable with hearing myself broadcast yet. I probably, I know I should go back and watch them. so I can understand what I'm sucking at and how to fix things and do things better and understand what my mistakes are. But I just, you know, I haven't been able to bring myself to listen to it because I think, you know, who likes to listen to themselves? But, yeah, I know I'm yelling everybody.

I can't help, but that's my natural reaction. I'm going to just do what I do. And if it's good broadcasting, then I'll get to keep the job. If it's not, I'll have the job. That was your response yesterday. Yeah. I mean, that's all I can do. I don't think I could change it if I tried.

You know, if you didn't yell, you know what they'd be saying. We want to hear you more. I just don't think I could try not to do it and succeed. The racing has been so good. It's not good. And look, if I'm going to broadcast, I've got to be a fan. I've got to be a fan of what I'm seeing. I can't go up there and just go through the motions

and not be interested in what's happening. And so we had such an incredible story and experience happening in front of us, this whole roval thing, going on. Marcus Smith came in earlier in the day for a production meeting. He's like, we've been working on this three years. Now that really set the tone for me. This isn't something that we just threw together. They've been working on this for three years trying to put this together. Design the track, get a decent layout, get info from drivers, from teams and all that stuff, working through NASCAR networks, all those people to get this approved. Everybody

has to be on board. If somebody doesn't want to do it, the network's NASCAR. It's all takes. They can shut it down. So this was an incredible undertaking and impressive that everybody signed off. I talked to Marcus before the race. He's like, man, I'm nervous too. There's a lot on the line. I was nervous for the drivers because we'd seen all weekend how difficult the track was and all those guys trying to learn it.

There was a lot of landmines out there, so to speak, for lack of a better term. There's just a lot of pitfalls and stuff for those guys, trouble spots. And so I was nervous as a driver for the competitors, but I was nervous for Marcus. And this is definitely the shot in the arm that Charlotte Merck Speedway needed. I was nervous for the sport. I thought that we could come off all looking silly

or we could look brilliant. And I really did feel that way because I'm like, you know that sometimes you feel that like, this really could make us look goofy. Yeah. Like really could. But I don't think it did. Yeah.

I didn't feel that way about the sport because the sport's so big. survive those type of experiment to do those things, and they can survive those failed experiments because the sport's so big. And people would say, hey, yeah, it's worth a shot. The thing about it is the track has really struggled to put out a good product because of the, well, my opinion is because the surface is so good. When they repay this racetrack, they put these rubber polymers in that mix.

And so it's rubber on rubber. The tire is actually on a rubber-style surface. You know, there's just too much grip in that particular surface. And the track is just too good. So it makes it a low-line dominant racetrack, single-line dominant racetrack. During the afternoon, during the day, this is getting in the weeds, but during the day the track gets a little bit better with the heat and the sun. But the track has really struggled to put a good product out there

and put an exciting race on the line, so much so. that for the All-Star race, they brought in this high-drag package, that everyone was worried about being a, you know, being a real issue. And the drivers didn't want it because it takes power out of the cars. It makes all the cars a lot closer together. Drivers feared that guys like, you know, Matt D. Benedetto sneak in and win the All-Star race somehow, you know, or it was just going to take the driver out of the race.

That's what they worried about. Yeah. So this was something that they had to do. You're saying that they were doing this before they ever probably thought about a rules package. This is desperate for them. You know, this shows the desperation, I guess, in the track to figure out a way to get their stuff together. So. It's a Hail Mary, but, you know, sometimes you connect on a hell Mary.

So they do this high drag package. They do the roval. There's two real good examples. of this track is having to do something pretty serious, turn its luck around, turn its productivity around, and its success around. The All-Star race was considered a success, I thought. I thought it was a great race.

I thought the cream still rose to the top. It was fun to watch. Do we want to see it everywhere? You know, that's up to debate. You know, the roval idea didn't have that kind of, I would say the drivers weren't sure about it, but they weren't against it. Yeah.

You know, they knew that the track needed to try something. They knew that the product for the Oval wasn't good. And so, you know, Marcus and his team put together a great racetrack. The chicane on the back straightaway is a little suspect. I'm sure the drivers are going to get there, get with Marcus and those guys. And you need to create a breaking zone. There's no breaking zone on that chicane on the back straightaway. You go through that chicane at 140 miles an hour.

And so they need to fix that. But otherwise, the infield looked like a lot of fun. The elevation. I saw pictures of like the fans and stuff, like standing around. around like it was a festival watching the thing. Yeah, the elevation changes on the racetrack. The front straightaway kink was pretty interesting. Obviously, we had a wild, wild finish through that, due to that being there.

Turn one was really wild on restarts. Turn three and four, we saw how tough it was in testing, and it was still difficult, but not quite as tough in the race. I think once the guys started getting some rubber down and starting to feel like the track was gaining a little grip, turn three and four wasn't quite as difficult for those guys. in the race, turn five, heading up the hill into turn five and turn six. We saw a lot of guys get off racetrack there. It invites you, I think, to drive in there pretty deep and uphill.

You kind of roll up to that corner. It's interesting. Those are, you know, seven, downhill into seven and trying to get drive off out of eight onto the big NASCAR oval. All those things were really, really intriguing. A lot of fun to watch the drivers learn and process what they were doing and change how they were driving the track. And when we were watching, I think, one of the best races of the day with the two-car, Kiselowski and Kyle Larson, they had a great battle that was just the essence of racing. I mean, it just was, if you're a race fan, that's as good as it gets.

Yes. And so we're sitting there watching that. And thankful, I'm thankful for those guys that they were racing that way. And the way they were both driving the track was completely opposite. So, yeah. One guy would take a high line into one corner to drive off the bottom of the exit. And they were just trying two different lines, really almost around the whole racetrack. It was really impressive to see.

Through all the testing and all the race weekend, this was Brad's idea of getting around the track. And this was Kyle Larson's idea of getting around the track. And his approach into seven or the line he took into three or four, they both did it differently with throttle and where they were on the racetrack, where they put their cars. It was really interesting to see them try to get runs on each other and take advantage of your setup passes and things like that. So I enjoyed the hell out of that part.

Just a real good success. So I think the question at the end of the day is the roble coming back. I think robo's coming back. I'm sure the drivers are texting and talking with Marcus and his team about how to improve that back straightaway chicane. I think that was the only part of the track. But they did change that. Well, they got rid of them.

No, no, no. It's not a break. It's not a chican. It's a bend that's 140 miles an hour. Okay. It didn't slow them down. What we need to achieve, basically, is the same thing we have on the back straightaway of Watkins Glen, where we have the bus stop.

Yeah. They slow down, break hard, and turn into that corner. Well, that's a passing zone. That breaking zone and becomes a passing zone. And we don't have that on the back straightway. Well, that's what they were trying to emulate. late what they have at Watkins Glen and failed. Daytona.

And why is it? Was it just not deep enough? It's too fast. It's just, it's not pronounced enough. That's what I meant. Does that mean like if you can't pronounce it because of the width of the track, can you make it earlier? What do you think? Would that do it?

I think it would be even, I think it would be even easier to get through there without shifting and breaking if it were earlier because you'd be going into it with less speed. So you would probably, it wouldn't create. create a breaking zone. Okay. I think, you know, they'll just adjust it. It might not need to be an entire bus stop. It might need to be something similar to the front straightaway kink, which is basically

just an L. And, you know, so they could, there's a way to make it right and make it better. And the drivers will be the ones that I think that should be tasked to help, you know, and I'm sure they're going to give their input. But I think lean on the drivers to get that input, not engineers or people that are in suits. Lean on the guys wearing the driver suits. and get the guys that get around that racetrack to try to make that breaking zone

and passing opportunity a real reality for that back straightaway. And then we'll have a really awesome freaking racetrack. And it doesn't bother me that we lost an oval, an oval race at Charlotte. I think they could have the 600 there and then the roeble. Absolutely. And do that. It's diverse. Let me ask you something.

You said a lot right there. And I want to ask you, first of all, you said that this was an act of desperation. Were you talking about the Roval or the rules package to the All-Star race? For the track. For the track? The track? I wonder if... Well, I want to say it's an active desperation for the track because of ticket sales, the product on the track.

The track's survivability. The track's future is at stake. So they are in a situation where they need answers and they need big changes. So those... I don't disagree with any of that. But, you know, one of the things, and you kind of hit on it when you said that this was an idea that Marcus had three years ago, is that to... To define this as an act of desperation,

sort of takes away credit of the visionary that I think Marcus brought. Because I don't know that there's a lot of track owners but would have been so dang bold to even make this. Even with the track changes that Charlotte needed to make, they probably, you know, a lot of them are probably just let NASCAR figure it out, rules packedes, whatnot. This is a bold move.

Oh, yeah. This is the thing that, like, you know, you almost strap your legacy to. Like, you know, either you're going to go down with this or you're going to, you know, this is going to define you, make you or break you, right? And after that race, I sat there to myself, I was like, self, that might have been the greatest last lap I think I've ever witnessed. When you think about, no, no, hold on. Hold on.

Even road courses, I could beat you on that one. Hold on. With all that there was at stake, being that it was in the playoffs. Hold on. No, I'm not done. With all that was at the stake in the playoffs. The fact that there were three races going on on that last lap, and it wasn't just for the lead. Yeah.

What Eric Amarola did, you know, driving like he was. was possessed, looking at NBC's real-time ticker of the points on that last two laps was amazing because you saw guys, it looked like that big wheel on the price is right. Like it just kind of like it was like turning. And then you had people go in and out. That transfer spot was moving. And Amarola's root and gouging people out. You're fixed on that. Then you got Jimmy Johnson, old horse. Reeling him in. And Jr. called it just how you're thinking. It's like he says, if he can get through this and be on his bumper, he's going to be able to set up that pass. And there he was.

And then, after all that's said and done, we know how that played out. Then that old meaningless driver from three weeks ago at Indy, Jeffrey Earnhardt, you know, the one that was tabed means, absolutely affected, or by getting spun out, Kyle Larson's over there with basically one wheel on his car and trying to just live around. He passes. There were three meaningful races on one lap that determined the next round of the playoff. Yeah. I think it might have been the greatest finish I've seen. By design, you know, everything came together, Mike.

That's right. I would put it in the top 15 for sure. Okay, come on. Like road course-wise, to me, it's that Watkins Glen one with... Of course. With who? Ambrose and... I thought that was an incredible last lap. It really matters on who's involved, I think, for everybody,

it would be a little bit different as far as who's, you know, the last lap, the finishes and all that. But this is such a win. I don't... I think you're right, Mike. For a lot of people, it's probably the... Best last lap, best finish to a race, most exciting finish to a race they've seen. Did you see that fan slow-mo, by the way? No. Okay, so somebody put up video from the grandstands near to start finish line,

and it was slow-mo, and you just see the fans going through all these emotions like, they're wrecking, and then you see a Jimmy fan, you know, when he's losing the lead doing this, just put his head. Any time that you don't know the results right when they cross the finish line and you've got to wait for rulings, I mean, you know you've got a good one, right? Not always. We didn't have that at Martinsville Saturday night. Okay, yeah, we'll talk about that too.

Because I can't wait to ask you about that. So, all right, so we were all pleased with the Roval. I think that it was kind of like the Wild West, too, man. It was. But I felt like it was so necessary. The fact that it was on NBC, I know I said this after Chicago, but having it on the big network, just the timing of it, I think that is just a super opportunity for the sport in itself.

I know that the NBC guys had. have been ecstatic by the way that thing ended up. And, I mean, if you're Jimmy Johnson, now that we could play Monday morning quarterback, do you settle for a second and get into the next round of the playoffs, or do you go for the win? And I mean, I kind of got me fired up. Jimmy Johnson going for it. Let me be honest. I mean, you go for the win.

Yes. And the reason why that's so easy, it's so easy to say, oh, man, you could have just taken it easy. Right. You're in that race car battling your ass off as those two laps are winding down. to the very last few couple corners. Inside that car, you're a race car driver. Damn straight. You're not Monday morning quarterback.

Right. And you don't have a ticker. And you don't have a ticker. You don't know. You're looking at that guy in front of you and knowing that if I get in front of him, I'm going to Victory Lane. And that's where everybody wants to be. He should pray.

Everybody wants to be in Victory Lane. All right. And Jimmy never knew that over-tribing that corner and making that mistake was going to knock him out of the playoffs. He never knew that. You're not sitting there going, well, it's either this or it's that. In his mind, he's racing for the win, and the rest is going to take care of itself, no matter what happens on that last corner.

And he has the confidence in himself as a seven-time champion that he's not going to make that mistake. Well, sometimes, not everybody, he's a human being. Not everybody's perfect. And he made a mistake, and he got in the corner and misjudged the breaking zone. Jeff Burton really kind of gave us a, a good thing. glimpse of what to expect on that. He says, here's the thing on that restart.

It's an untested tire and an untested track in this type of situation. You're going to dive into a corner, even though you've done it in this race. You haven't done it like this. You haven't gone in and dove head first and gone butt-necked crazy into that one last turn trying to make a pass for the win. I'll be honest with you. If he doesn't go for the win and he rolls down into there and finish the second, he's going to regret that for the rest of his life.

I mean, you know, among, I mean, everybody has their regrets in life, but that would eat away at him. Any driver would go, what if I had tried? You know, not only, and he knows that those, they don't have any playoff points. Right. All right. They don't have many at all.

And so that would have been five playoff points that he would desperately need in this next round, and especially in the third round, when he's got to go up against guys that have 30, 50, playoff points. I mean, there's just, he has to go for the win there. Not just to get to the next round, but have any kind of chance to get to homestead. People are always going to be critical of stuff, but, you know, the mindset of a racer is to freaking win races and, yeah, I mean, you're not. Yeah. You don't. Tuck in. Yeah. Hey, can I ask you one more question about that? But if you go back six laps earlier,

that restart where all of them went, piling into that turn. I couldn't believe what I was seeing. It was like there was a magnetic force that just pulled them all into the wall into the heartburn corner. That looked like that old Langhorne video that you see all the cars just piling in. Were you surprised that like all of the leaders kind of overshot that? I've never seen that in my life. Yeah.

Well, the one, the tricky part about this, you got to look at this race and think, you know, everything that you've ever watched this year. We've never ran on this type of a surface. with this type of tire. This is a new tire, and it's a really, really durable hard tire. And when it slides,

it does not stop sliding. Once you have gone that, you know, even that foot too far and start to slide and lock that tire up, you're offline, okay?

And there's no runoff in that corner, all right? A good, you know, if you go in there the right way, you end up next to the wall next to the wall next to it. There's signage.

That's what you run into. So if you go in there too far and slip, that next to the wall becomes in the wall. So forget about, about what you've seen and what you've watched as far as cars sliding, having grip, losing grip, gaining grip, whatever. What you're going to watch in this race is going to be new for you as a fan watching,

and it's going to be new for the drivers that are driving it. They went down in that corner, so we had a really pretty decent green flag run. And as the cars are running, they only go through the bottom line in term one, right? They don't nobody run in that second group. That's getting dirtier and dirtier and dirtier and dirtier and dirtier as they're running. All right, so we have a caution. I mean, the 17 car wrecked there. That was what the caution was for.

That's right. He wrecked in that particular part of the track. That's how slick it was getting. All right. He went in there, wheel hopped a little bit. He's offline. Now, he's in the dirt. He has no chance to save that car, and he's in the fence.

Just that little bit of getting in there a little too deep. Then we're going to have a restart, and the outside line's got to fire off into that dirty line. And they all went in there with thinking that, you know, they were going to make that corner. and none of them were going to make it. The 18, the 42, all of them, the 21. I mean, they all couldn't make that corner. You have the dirty line. The other thing, too, is a lot of guys, not every driver.

I mean, I have drivers probably disagree with this, but for the most part, most drivers sort of follow the guy in front of them and sort of trust what they're doing a little bit into breaking zones. And so if a guy drives in there and you're trying to beat him, You're going to go. When you see him break, you're going to try to break a little later, all right? And try to get in there a little farther. But if you're not trying to pass the guy, when you see him break, you're going to start breaking.

And you're just trusting that he's going to make the corner. He's a great driver. And I'm going to do the same thing he's doing, and we're both going to go through this corner. That's what you think as a driver. And when somebody goes in the corner too far and you follow him in there, you both missed the corner. We saw it a couple times in that final kink. We saw it in the Xfinity race. You saw it.

Who was that? Somebody followed somebody right into that. Yeah. I think it was Brackislasky and maybe. I can't remember who it was. But if you fought, you know, we all trust each other. And so on those restarts, all those guys went down in that corner. And when the leader breaks, everybody else goes, all right, time to break.

Well, if the leader goes too far, everybody else is too far. Wow. There's a lot of. People that are listening to this, it's like when you're on the highway, man, you're following somebody and you're going through construction and they're changing lanes and stuff like that because of construction. You got to be careful not to follow somebody if they're a little off stray. I, you know, racing myself, remember thinking about that at one time where somebody overshot the turn on a restart and I followed them and did the same damn thing.

You know, follow them right in there. We talk about it, you know, everybody needs to, a lot of drivers need rabbits. Yeah. Like I get faster when I'm following somebody around a road course because I can do, I can either do what he's doing or try to do it a little bit different, a little bit harder, a little bit better. But if I'm out there by myself, I'm like, oh, man, my rabbit's gone. I have no reference.

Now I've got to figure this out myself. And so some people need a rabbit, just like a dog, a race horse, just like a race dog, you know, chasing that thing around the track. You go faster. So you chase them off into the corner. If they go in there too far, we're both going in there. Because if that rabbit comes on hinge and goes out into the hot dog stands, the dog's not finishing the lap.

They're going into the hot dog stand. All right. So everybody's pot committed once the leader goes in there. That's exactly what we saw then. They all just followed him right into the tires. And there's no runoff there. No, it's unforgiving. It is.

I thought when I saw that Thumbs had spent money to sponsor that corner, I was awesome. I was like, no, turn three, they should have spent money on turn three. Well, I was completely wrong. Turn one was the corner to sponsor. Turn three, not hardly anything happened over there. We'd seen cars spinning out into that corner all during the test. But as soon as they got the truck,

rubber down on the track. Everything got pretty decent over there. So Dillner and I were talking about this this morning. There are traditionalists out there that they were like, got it, yep, you ran a roval. But if you wanted a road course, just take it to a road course. Yeah, that doesn't work for me. What would your response to that be? I think that I'm more interested.

Actually, I'm more interested in this time when we need a spark, when we need something new, we don't need the same. We can go to a road course. We can go to Mid-Ohio, have a great time. We can have a great race just like we do. We have great road course races at Sonoma and Rockinsville. We can go to all these other tracks and have great road course racing. But I need something even more. I need something new, undone, something that we haven't tried.

And this checks the boxes. Yes. All right. So I like it. And I like keeping it at home. I like it. It's at Charlotte. That's what I like about it because we set it on the show.

You set it on the show. probably like five shows into the season this year, where as Charlotte goes, so does our sport. Because this is our epicenter, man. Indy car racing, it's Indianapolis. You know, we've got Daytona, of course, but Charlotte is kind of the epicenter of stock car racing.

And it's like, we need Charlotte to be healthy. And this right here might be that shot in the arm. Oh, you know what I like about it? I love it. All of those things that you guys just said, plus this. To me, it, like, cemented Charlotte Motor Speedway is like this, like, ultimate motorsports just haven. I mean, you got the drag.

The dirt track, the legends track. You got that little track on the outside of the track, you know, the eighth of a mile or whatever it is outside. That you got trouble. I did. I got kicked off of that one time with my car. But anyways, you know, you got your mile and a half, but then now you got the roval,

which didn't just get put in there this year. This isn't an afterthought. That's been a road course, right? Yeah, they've been there for a long time. So to me, it just put Charlotte Motor Speedway up there with Daytona and like the ultimate. Mecca Motorsports facility. We have one last thing to talk about as far as that goes,

and they still going to run the Oval. Still going to run the Oval for the All-Star Race, still going to run it for the 600, and that product is still at question. And so with today's announcements from NASCAR, they're going to be running that high-drag package there. So maybe. They're going to do the high-drag package for the 600.

For the track, I think this is a good thing. Hopefully this works out for them to where they have two marquee. events that fans want to go see. Attendance for the roble was incredible. I looked out through there. Marcus told me it's the best sales and tickets they've had in 10 years. Awesome. Biggest crowd they've had in 10 years.

Awesome. And so I think that they will have even better sales next year. So that is incredibly good for that racetrack. One of the things that I did this past weekend to try something new. Since the roble is happening, it actually relocated the driver-owner bus lot. That's right. I decided to ask Mark. if I could have my bus parked outside the racetrack right up against the fence.

So they tore down the grandstands and turned two, and those are now bus parking spots. Okay. With hookups. You basically park your bus right up against the fence, motorhome, whatever. Yep. And you can, you know, you can basically watch practice right out the window of the bus. You can get your lawn chair out and sit there and watch them, watch them run through the infield and come out on the track and go by you and down the back straightaway. And I really, really enjoyed that.

That was kind of being a fan, being a fan in the booth, I got to be a fan in a general sense. So you got to sit up there during, like, what, Xcini race or something? I watched some practice there. I was in the booth during the Xfinity race. Okay. But I didn't do every Xfinity practice, didn't do every cup practice, so I got to go back to the bus and sort of see from that perspective. And I loved it. I really, really liked it, had a lot of fun.

That's a good view there. Yeah, I mean, and he said camping was sold out. Awesome. Yeah. What a good weekend. I tell you what, I'm so optimistic. They had bull fighting. Bull fighting.

Bull fighting or bull riding. They had bull fighting in the fans on. Like the guy with the red thing? No, not international bull fighting, American bull fighting, where they dress up like clowns jump into barrels and all that. Oh. I thought like Toro. No, no.

So they had bull fighting out front in the fans on. The fan zones out front of the racetrack. They had the Ferris wheel, which I.S. Marcus, they take the Ferris wheel to all of his tracks. Right. They took it for. from Vegas and brought it over. So they have a Ferris wheel, which I think everybody can enjoy.

The Ferris wheel is, it's not about really riding the Ferris wheel that I think's going to make people excited. It's the visual. For a fan to go to the racetrack and see a carnival-style atmosphere, that gives them more bang for their buck, more for their ticket. They know that they, you know, the food vendors, third-party food vendors, invite food trucks, popular food trucks down in Charlotte. They should be up at the racetrack on race weekends,

selling their product, giving fans something a little different than track food. The track food's good, but give them some options. It ain't great, actually. Give them some reasons to be. Yeah, it is, man. Let's be nice. Food trucks are really good. The food trucks are amazing.

Yeah, food trucks are a big thing. Everybody loves a food truck. Everybody, who doesn't love the Ferris wheel? The food truck brings so much variety. But the third-party vendors, the carnival rides, all that kind of stuff. It's what you need outside of the racetrack. And both fighting. Both fighting.

I never thought I'd see that. Like, I've seen the MMA. Humpi used to have boxing there. They had boxing in the grandstands. They would build a ring right below the start, the flag stand. They would build a ring in the grandstands, right? That's a promoter. That is crazy.

Oh, man, yeah. I bet Humphi love that. Yeah. All right. Well, good stuff. Anything else? I mean, I was happy for Blaney. Yeah, yeah.

You know. I mean, there's like seas open up. There was a winner. Let's not forget, Blaney. Yeah. I was happy for him. I said that. I said it started to show that I didn't think Blaney was going to make it into the next round.

And that was tough because there was not only, I have my good friends with a lot of those guys that were fighting to get in there, Clint Boyer, Jimmy, Alex Bowman. But I looked at Blaney and I'm like, well, you know, he's talked about how he's had trouble. He's hit a lot of stuff that weekend. I just said, well, you know, the way the speed is in these other guys' cars. And then Blaney and how he's performing this weekend, I think he's the one that might fall out. but he ended up putting together a great race and he took a car that had a little bit of damage to it there from those final few laps

in that last restart that took out a lot of leaders he had a car with some damage that we weren't sure was going to make it or be competitive on that last restart but what a great drive for him that's what you got to do man put yourself in position to win wonder what it was like to be in his seat man he's like all right I got a good day third man I'm good he'll call himself lucky but I'd call it

putting yourself in position to win For sure. That's right. That's right. Do the drivers, do you think that they, at the end of the day, the grade that they all liked the roval? Yeah. They all liked it. Yeah.

I mean, Regan Smith said that he loved it, most challenging racetrack that he's ever ran on. I think, you know, there's going to be those guys that don't like the roval. Would rather have ran the Oval. Maybe aren't big road course fans, whatever. We're the guys that wrecked. Yeah. There's going to be a couple. I know that.

There's going to be like Bubba Wallace, I'm sure, doesn't like it. He had an awful experience all weekend. There's going to be those guys. But from a general sense, I think that a lot of the drivers probably enjoyed the challenge, probably got to where they, once the track gripped up and had some, you know, they weren't scared for their lives every corner they went into, once they weren't sure, you know, we're sure that they probably weren't going to spin out going into turn three. I think they probably enjoyed what they did.

The racing looked to me like they were having a freaking blast. Right, it would look fun. I mean, they're hitting those turtles and just, you know, hop it up and wheels up in the air. That's cool. Yeah, I think that's another thing that maybe the track could. could think about doing differently. I'm not sure what the solution is, but the blue curbing, yeah, I think the drivers would probably request that they look at some alternatives.

Or less abrupt, like higher, like lower turtles, like smaller. Then they would cut it. Then they'd start cutting it. You got to have something that keeps them off. Keeps them away from it. My God, I loved them. I thought it was great. I'd say next year, Marcus needs to put ramps out there and let's see what we can do.

Because, man, I'm telling you, I loved it. I loved every part of that. I liked that they moved that wall out. That was dangerous. There were people tearing cars up, but they made that adjustment. Yeah. The curbs, the red and white curbs could be bigger, larger, and progressive. I got you.

They could have a linear shape to them and be larger, wider that would keep guys from going over there and it wouldn't tear their cars. If they got up on them, it upset the car enough. They wouldn't want to do that. But they can't make permanent curbs, obviously, on the back straightaway, because they've got to run the oval. So the fans that don't know, they're kind of like a metal. Like, I was out there checking it out right before I left for New York.

And it's like these big metal deals that are actually adhered, bolted into the ground. People don't realize that looking at TV. It's amazing. It just hit me, fellas. You know what I like about it? We watch these races every weekend. And, like, I'd be following around Dale Jr. for all these years. And he'd tell me what these racetracks are hard and this got this bump.

And I can't see the bump. I can't see the reasons why these tracks are hard. When I saw that roval, it looked hard. It looked like a challenge. You look at that big thing, and you see those big old blue curbs, and you see the turns like, oh, my gosh, them going through that. That's why we all thought, you know, there was a bet going on? Is there any way that these cup guys can make it a full lap on that first lap without incident?

And they did because they're the best in the world. They adapted and they figured it out. But that looked like a challenge. And I like that challenge. I like the kind of Wild West mentality of not knowing what you're going to see. I like that me at home can see. That looks hard. And if those guys, whoever.

comes out of this thing, they're my heroes, because that looks hard. That's the opposite of, that's exactly why I don't like All-Star-ish rules package personally, because we take away that bit of badassery and hero factor. And I think you hit, hit that on the head with the roval and seeing these guys just do it and all that. These guys are, I mean, badass. Yeah. Good.

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visit exaltacS.com. It is rare, and it has nothing to do that. It's rare when we do the podcast when you feel like you're leaving out a ton of shit. This weekend was so full of shit. I was trying to watch on Twitter because I was up in New York,

and it was like, that's why I said the while, because it was like, I'm just like, what the hell? Everything was happening. Everything was happening. All right, we're going to a fun segment called Did You See That? We don't always He's doing. Did you see that?

But obviously. Only when it's necessary. Yeah, only when it's necessary. Well, this one's a pretty interesting topic. I don't really know how. I cannot wait to hear about this because I didn't see it, but y'all didn't see it. I need you to tell me about it because I, and don't leave out any details. How do you set it up?

There's like 20,000 things that happen. I know. Okay. So we're going to talk about the Martinsville race for the late model stocks that happen Saturday night. It was live streamed on fans' choice TV and it was also on MRN. Their big 300 Lapper. It's a 300 lap race, pays $25,000 to win. It's been going on forever, and we've been trying to win it, whether it was me driving a car or being an owner.

We had the best car this weekend at that race. Josh Barry. Didn't y'all leave the most laps, too? Josh Barry, yeah, just say we led the most laps. You know we did. So don't ask you the question, you know the answer. My question was legitimate. I don't know any of this.

I think you'd go on. We had a great car. It was awesome. I'm going to be honest, you know, it was a heartbreaker that we lost the race. But I go to this race all the time thinking, you know, the odds of us winning, even if we had the best car, are just really low. And the reason why is because in the last couple of years, the last four or five years or whatever, they do a competition caution with like 10, 20, 25 laps to go. Okay. It's a 200-lap race, and they basically throw a caution to bunch to field up.

so that there will be a wild finish. All right. And I don't like that. And I don't want to go. I don't like taking my cars up there because of that. I don't like to participate in that type of event because I know we're going to probably crash. And I know we're going to probably tear our car up, be disappointed, pissed off. And it's going to set the tone for what's been a really great season for us.

Yeah. All right. It's going to kind of leave a nasty taste in your mouth when you race all year long and do what you do and win and run okay and whatever happens. And then you go do that at the end of the year. It just kind of doesn't feel good. good. You always leave there going, why did we go? And you spend thousands of dollars of your budget to go run that race. Everybody gets sucked into doing it. And everybody leaves there going, what the hell did I just do? Except for one guy. Yeah, right. Right. And that guy this year was

CE Fault. Congratulations to him for winning. He beat Corey Heim in a strange. Kind of. Yeah, in a strange way. So we'll break it down. Our guy, Josh Barry, is doing great. They throw that competition yellow. I don't know. They had probably 10 freaking restarts after that. It seemed like there's always something going on. They have a restart, and Peyton Sellers is on the outside of Josh. They crossed the finish line, and Peyton Sellers was ahead of Josh.

Peyton Sellers was actually ahead of Josh when they got to the restart zone. And when they took off. Oh. Yeah. They don't care. I mean, they don't. They don't police that. They didn't police it.

Okay. All right. But Peyton Sellers was ahead of Josh as they were going to the, the gas and then he beat him to the line and they wrecked immediately behind them. And so that's the last scoring loop. There's one scoring loop for this race. The start finish line, which begins the lap, that's really the lone scoring loop, I believe. For this race, yes.

So that's the only scoring loop. That's the last. And when the caution comes out, computers telling them that Peyton Sellers is the leader of the race. They go by that. It was disappointing. Next restart now, Peyton Sellers is a control car. He's on the inside. and Josh is on the outside.

Josh gets a great restart, beats Peyton down into term one. And Josh came down, Peyton went straight, and Josh got turned around. So I'm not putting to blame on either one of those guys. I mean, Josh did come down, and Peyton was going straight.

All right? You can argue that it was one or the other's fault, but I think it was more about a racing deal and a desperation last restart that was created by the format of the race. Okay? competition yellows. This doesn't happen if we don't have a freaking dumb competition yellow at the end of the race.

Right. They're all fighting for their territory at that point. All right. So Josh has spun out. He's out. He's out of the running for the win. Lane Riggs on the next restart goes three wide under Bubba Pollard. So is Seller still, did Sellers take himself out of that too?

So he's still up in the lead? Yeah. So he puts it under, I think, Pollard and Sellers. Okay. Okay. Riggs does. Riggs goes three wide. Another desperation move.

Yeah. It's what you got to do. Right now with that competition yellow and these restarts and it's 10 to go, eight to go, whatever, you got to go. You got to do it. Lane got a good run. I've seen people go three wide into term one 100 times, cup guys, modified, late model guys. It usually ends in a crash.

You have to work. More times than not. Nine times out of 10, they're going to be a wreck. But you got to try it. I couldn't get Matt Lane. I know he's a kid. The rigs boy. Yeah.

I mean, if he's a 35-year-old guy, do we say, hey, you got no sense? Maybe. I don't know. I think he was an easy target because of his age and his inexperience making that move. It was easy to go, well, you know, that was an idiot move. You're a kid. You need to know better. But that was going to happen.

If you go three wide, you're going to have a wreck. He's hoping that he would not be the one getting wrecked, right. That the rest of the guys would wreck and he'd have the lead. Right. Even if you can bounce off somebody. Yeah, bounce off somebody. Well, it didn't have that way. So yeah.

Bubba Pollard got taken out. Okay, Pollard got taken out. Well, the big thing about that is Bubba Pollard's running a late-mile stock race, I think, for the first time. I think he's run a late-model stock-type race car. Actually, not one down here. Not one of the south. He's run like pro-late miles and all that stuff.

All right. Yeah, you're right. This is the first time that we're going to have Bubba Pollard in our little world, right? And he is a highly respected short track ace. Yeah. Just goes everywhere. Yeah, he's an American badass. That's a great way to put it.

Well, he comes down. down and runs with us, and he's having a great night. It's hard to make that show, so for him to come down. Not only, yeah, making the show, but then ending up in the top four there with the final few laps. Well, he gets taken out of that by that move that Lane Riggs made, which was inevitable. And so after that, he wants to go talk to Lane. And so imagine the scene in Forrest Gump when he's running and all those people were behind him.

That's basically what it looks like. I saw that video. So, Bubba Pollard's walking through the garage, and I believe. that 80% of the people that were in the infield were walking behind him. With their phones up. Yeah. Cell phone cabboys. And he's like, hey, I'm just going to talk to him.

And I believe him. I do too. And he actually, yeah, he said it clearly. I'm just going to go talk to him. Everybody here is acting like a freaking crazy people. He even said, I'm an adult. Yeah. He's like, leave me alone.

I'm going to go talk to the guy. Why are y'all acting this way? Everybody was way overreacting to this whole thing. All the people around him. They made it impossible for him to go have a conversation with Lane. And he goes down, talks to Lane, then he realizes that this is pointless with all this going on, all these people around, there's phones everywhere. He's getting almost like physically touched, too, to where he's... He turns around to walk out.

Well, they kicked him out of the track. Now, I still find that hard to believe because he did nothing even remotely worth getting... I heard that... Weaver tweeted that he was expelled from the track, and he might have retracted it. Because I saw interviews with him in street clothes afterwards. I don't think he was kicked out. He didn't do anything to get kicked out. I don't think so either.

I found that hard to believe that he got expelled from the racetrack. But anyways, this guy, I really hope that, you know, if I could sit down with Bubba, I would say, look, man, we've been going to this race for years. And the disappointment that you're feeling and the frustration you're feeling is what we feel. Every time we go run it. Every year. Every year we run it. Now, if you want to, you know, and I hope that that doesn't leave the wrong impression on him

as far as Virginia, North Carolina, Tennessee, South Carolina, late model stock racing. And I think he knows well enough that if he goes to the icebreaker at Myrtle Beach or somewhere at Nashville or whatever to run a late model stock event throughout the year or some of the cars tour races, he would have a real good time. But when you go to that race, you've got to know that it's probably going to end in tiers. Your opportunity, even if you have the best car to win, is tough because of those competition yellows. I, every year when we get done, I text Kelly and I say, I don't want to go back.

I don't want to go back. You all still do. Let's not go back. And Kelly's like, why? We own cars. We race. That's what we do. I'm like, man, I just can't.

We're wired different. Like, for me, it's too hard to go back after having that happen. I don't even know how Josh handled it so well. I saw Josh's post-race interview, and I texted him afterwards. And he was so proud in how he's. car ran that it almost alleviated a lot of the heartache over losing that race and not getting that clock and not getting the money. Josh races off, you know, Josh earns his pay off of the winnings in his races. And it's a full-time job for him. He races for a living. He's a guy that goes

and races his car to make a living. And that was a been a great paycheck for him. But I think his pride, he built that car with the help of his guys, but he put a lot of himself into that car to get ready for that race and he went up there and he was ready it was incredible his car was just incredible and he drove in a really really good race right up until that last restart we're peaking beat him to the line and that's the brakes man after that you're hoping that man all right josh you're going to have to beat him on outside well we never got to see how that played out they got you know they just got a little too aggressive with each other getting down into turn one on that restart if josh maybe had not tried to crowd sellers or josh knew that the only way he could

beat him on the outside was to run him pretty tight. We saw him run, if you watched the race, he did that with Lane Riggs to get around Lane on the outside. He knew he had to do that, but Sellers wasn't going to let him even get the opportunity going down in the corner. Let me ask you a quick question, because you mentioned Josh's response.

Poised. Through all that craziness of the Bubba Pollard situation, you know, walking there in the throngs of people, and he just wanted to talk to the guy. And I know Bubba for a long time, he wasn't going to go sucker punch him. He's a class act. All of that. You know, you just want to go talk to a driver. How did he handled himself ridiculously.

Well, even after that, he was getting pestered. Yeah. You know, by a reporter. How about that? Yeah, that was ridiculous. That was a little ridiculous. A reporter was trying to bait him into saying something that would have been, you know, just gone viral instantly.

You've been in that. He didn't take that. You've been in those shoes, man. You know, maybe not that Martin'sville race, but you've been in those shoes. That's not easy. You know, what I think about is, is this is going to embarrass me. Is if what I do right now are going to embarrass me tomorrow. And I've done some things that I've got up the next day and regretted.

And, you know, you do that enough. You'll remind yourself in the heat of the moment that, look, I don't need to do anything that I'm going to be embarrassed about tomorrow or I'm going to be ashamed of. And, you know, I think that just comes with being in those situations a lot, you know. So the other thing we didn't get around to is the way the race ended. Oh, yeah. They had three green white checkers. Okay, yeah. Let's get to this.

The 20,000 restarts at lay a lead up to this. This is amazing. Right, so remember keep in mind how Josh Berry lost the lead by being behind when they crossed the finish line for the green flag and the caution coming out immediately after that. And then being scored second, which is so focused. So keep that in mind. Okay. They have three green white checkers. They have a rule for three green white checkers.

Well, they get to the last green white checkered and it's, this is it. Okay. The green comes out. They all get down into turn one and there's a big crash and the cost comes out. Well, they've already come all the way around to turn two the leaders have. And Corey Heim is in the lead. In turn one and two, he is clearly leading the race. He comes out.

So they throw the yellow. Well, they go back to the last scoring loop, which is the start and finish line, and C.E. Falk had beaten Corey Heim to the line. Oh, my God. Are you serious? And he was awarded the win. At least they were consistent. I will say that.

I know, but then it's such a bogus thing. Well, when you don't have multiple scoring loops and you have to can it at a third attempt, which I'm not a fan of that. Hold on. There's not a rule that says the leader of the race takes the green as your leader. That's what I don't like. So in NASCAR, on the very first restart of the race, the leader must be the first car to the finish line. Second place cannot beat the leader to the line.

But after that, every restart from there on out, it doesn't matter if the second place car beats the leader to the line. It's fair game. And the Cup series, Infinity series. I didn't know that. Yeah. So the second place car can beat the leader to the line. They just, as long as he can't, doesn't fire first. Yeah.

As long as they don't fire first. He can't fire first. He can't be ahead as they're taking off. So it was a 20-yard race. Yeah. So weird. And the other thing, the thing about that is for Corey, maybe even for Josh, on his restart, where he was put in, you know, taking out of the lead.

At a racetrack like Martinsville, there's a dozen to 18 scoring loops in a cup race. Well, for Martinsville, late model racing, they don't bring all that infrastructure in there, and there's only one scoring loop, which is at the start finish line. There's no extra scoring loops around the racetrack. And so, or else I think Corey Hime would have been given the win had he been benefiting from having the proper scoring loops, what I think should be there in place at any race at that race. Or, I mean, you know, if you don't want to go scoring loops, it's not hard in 2018. And I'm not bashing Martinsville because they put on a damn good show for this race.

This is more about the... You can go to video review and it was pretty. clear that nothing against C. Falk either. The guy deserves it. Yeah. Okay. You know, like he's been doing this for a long time. All the guys.

It should have been reviewed in that sort of way. Yeah, they could have went to video and say, hey, look, they did. We go to video. That's what they did when I lost Talladega against Joe Lugano. All right. Yeah. So they go to video and. When the yellow light came out.

Hey, how much did Corey have the league coming off of two when the caution came out? Plenty. So it wasn't even. close. So, like, you know, I wonder, if you have a situation where you're scoring, you have one scoring loop and it's at the start, finish line, when does common sense and logic, you know, overrule a scoring loop? I mean, like, why would you?

I think they went by the way of consistency instead of. Say the yellow came out and turned three. With the, and there's a clear leader. Are you literally going to go back to the scoring loop? They went by the rule. They may have just done that, which would have been ridiculous. But they scored it that way with Josh. his restart and put themselves in a corner that they had to do it that way again if it happened

again, which it did. And this isn't new. They've been using that singular scoring loop at the start, finish line for this particular race for as long as I know. All right. Yeah, they need a change. It was a very disappointing night. I will be honest.

Unless you're a C.E. Falk. Yeah. Getting the clock. And then we got up the next day and went and saw what we saw the roval and forgot about it. It wiped it from it. Thank you, Roble. That's crazy. All right.

That's a good one. All right. Oh, yeah. Ask Junior. Dillner's in Martinsville. I'm in Martinsville short track having here and realize we've got to do Ask Junior. It's time for Ask Junior. I got a question.

You have a question for me? Hit us up on Twitter using the hashtag Ask Junior. Ask Junior presented by Nationwide this week. Always appreciate Nationwide and their nationals. Why Children's Hospital and their involvement here in this building with Dale. Let's go to the questions. Cassie, did you see that pace car drift on Friday? Well, more like spin.

What was your thoughts about that? It was Brett Bodine driving the pace car, and we laughed when he spun out, and he came back and said that he was asked to do it on per and did it on purpose. No. So he was saying he was Joey Chit with him? Yeah, somebody at whoever he was in the car with him, they asked him to spin the car out. I don't know any more particulars about it.

So I know you're looking at me, like, give me more information, but I don't have it. Yeah, Pacecar spun out. You don't see that every day? No, we've seen it a couple times this year. As much as we liked the Roval. Yeah, Pace Car has been a subject this year, man. As much as you like the Roval this week, I kind of got a feeling I know the answer to this question. But Caleb Boatwright writes, what roval track would you like to see the Cuppercfifty guys go to?

Daytona Roadcourse, any others? I think we should just do it at Charlotte for a year or two. Not me. I say do it at all of them. Oh, God. Even New Hampshire. Oh, come on. No.

Yes. No. Make it happen. No. Roval for the rest of our lives. Oh, wait. One. Does Kentucky have a robole?

Actually, I would say Indianapolis. I'm a big fan. I like the Indianapolis road course. And there's some people that say it wouldn't be a good stock car course. This didn't look like it would be a good stock car course. It was fine. Indie would be great. Listen, would you admit that this was progress?

Yeah. Okay, so wouldn't logic suggest that if it had progress, you would continue to do the things that would progress? Yeah, it tracks that need it. You've got to be careful. The product on the racetrack this year has been amazing at all the racetracks except Kentucky. Kentucky sucked.

And so if Kentucky can make a roval, I think people might be open to that. Indy, that's not a bad idea to maybe try the roval at that racetrack. But otherwise, let's not go. overboard here. Too much candy will make you sick. All right. Let's just slide in there. Let's just go in easy. So Watkins, Glyn, and Sonoma shouldn't make their track an oval and then, you know, and also do what

everybody else is doing. I like what you're saying, man. Go get you a butterfinger, go get you to get you to the musketeers and don't eat the whole barrel of candy. Yeah, I'll tap the brakes. All right. Erica, wants to know your input, what you thought of Martin Turex Jr.'s' reaction

in his post-race interview. I... What was it? He's mad at, he's a little salty. I saw him spin out Jimmy. I didn't actually catch what Martin said. Well, I think that Martin, you know, it's rare that we see Martin show that kind of emotion or any emotion really other than when he's winning and smiling in Victor Lane. Obviously, we see emotion there, but you don't really often see Martin share when he's upset.

And his mad and his okay look are pretty much identical. Yeah. Yeah, when his even kill and pissed off are really similar. But, you know, I think it just shows that Martin's serious about what he does, serious about winning races. He was in this car that was important to him because of Sherry's efforts with the foundation, the Martin Trish Jr. Foundation and Sherry Strong and all the things they're doing there with ovarian cancer. She was a pace car driver for the race.

It was very neat. It just all would have tied in really nicely had he been able to take that particular paint scheme to Victory Lane. and win the first race at the Roval, he felt like that he had a really great race car, a dominant car, and he felt like that he was racing with a guy that he trusted, a seven-time champion and a gentleman in Jimmy Johnson. And I think it surprised, Martin,

that Jimmy took that chance and took that risk that took both of them out of the race. Otherwise, I mean, you know, I think I was glad to see him mad. You know, I was glad to see him show a little fire. It was amazing. I felt bad for both of them, you know? Yeah, I was really feeling bad for Jimmy, especially when he learned, basically, we got to watch him learn on TV that he was out.

Dave Burns. Dave Burns brought the news to it. Yeah. And imagine being Dave Burns and having to do that interview. That would not be any fun at all. But Dave is a complete professional. Yeah. Yeah, he is.

So, you know, put the friendships and all aside. It's awesome to see passion, emotion from the drivers. It's awesome to see that it matters. It's, you know, we're seeing them drive their tails off on the racetrack. and when they, you know, it's got a matter to him. And you're seeing that from Martin and his reaction after the race. And Jimmy's reaction to missing the playoffs and feeling responsible in some way. Wasn't it weird how that wreck actually happened, how he took, I mean, he didn't dive bomb him and clean him out.

Yeah, on the first part. He got him. He's trying his ass off not to touch him. And Jimmy was wrecking him. Clips him like three seconds later. Yeah. All right, Mary chiming in. Did you get a chance to drive the roval and get familiar with him?

I wrote around it. I wrote around it a little bit. I think I'd like to drive it more. I took my suit and my helmet, drivers, gloves, and my shoes and everything over to the racetrack on Thursday, and I was going to jump in Michael Annette's car for practice and run a few laps.

But they delayed practice because of the track being wet. And as time was taken out of practice, I thought it would have been selfish of me to not allow Michael to have it every minute he could get, every lap he could get on the racetrack. So I ended up not driving a car, but I hopped in there and was comfortable and wanting to jump out there and run a few laps, and maybe I'll do that next.

I'm sure they're going to have more tests at the Roval, more opportunities for me to drive cars and get some real laps around there. So I only want to do it just to help myself with the broadcast when I'm talking about what the drivers are dealing with on the racetrack. All right, you knew we were going to sneak in some sort of fun question here. Dustin Blake wants to know, do you or anyone else think that Blaney looks like Billy Prickett from the Dukes of Hazard movie on his emoji sticker? I've never seen the movie.

I haven't either. No. No. Yeah. And yet I knew that that would be a case in this question. When Dillner comes up with, this is going to be an off-the-ball question, there's very rare chance I'm going to know what he's talking about. You're right.

When he gets excited. I didn't come up with it. When he gets real excited, it's usually going to eliminate me and you guys in a conversation. It was like, hey, what's your favorite Fortnite? I don't have a Fortnite dance. Just tell us if he looks like Billy Brickett. Well, hey, with that handlebar and mustache and all that. But hey, here's a good thing.

Does Billy have a mustache? Yeah, in that movie. I wouldn't know. At least we know, at least the fans listen to this podcast, know that we don't prep you on these questions all PC. Like, that's robot answers. Very obvious. All right, man. Hell with it.

We're done. White flag. White flag. White flag. White flag. Right flag right there. White flag. All right, fellas, I could spend this moment telling you about the book racing to the finish.

It comes out in precisely two weeks. Word. Getting there. I can also tell you about the fact that we got a Big Dale Jr. Foundation event Tuesday night. The Dale Jr. is going to be given some rides. But frankly, this is Dirty Mo Media. We're here to talk about Dirty Mo Media because last week we had a couple big projects come out, roll out.

We honestly didn't have a show ourselves, but we had some big stuff. We announced Noah Glaxen. By the way, do you want to make a comment? I guess we should talk about the fact we just announced Noah Glaxen to Junior Motorsports for 2019. That's a cool deal, right? Yeah, I'm excited to get to talk to Noah. We kind of connected on social media a little bit over to the, the last couple years, but not really spent a lot of time with him.

So we're going to have a lot of fun with him, especially you might, because you love to create digital content, and he is a digital content goldmine. He is. You should have a lot of fun with him. We had a fun time putting that video out. If you want to see it, go to Dirty Mo's YouTube page. We also had a fun video with Bubba Wallace come out last week that we were really excited about. All that to say this.

I'm not here to talk about the past. I'm here to talk about the future because we're going to roll out. The future. We're going to roll out another Dirty Mo Media original piece of content. It is actually got a short film, a documentary. It's going to be like 15 minutes long. It is a behind the scenes exclusive of Dale Jr.'s week getting back into the race car at Richmond. It is so good.

I cannot wait for everybody to see it. It's only going to be on our YouTube channel. And this isn't something where it's like, you know, we just went near Richmond and we were at the test with the late model. I mean, it's behind the scenes, man. Don't give away all the goods. Don't give away all the goods. This is by the stuff. I mean, it's good.

We had the best shooter shooting. Who's that? No. So this is good. I'm looking forward to it. Subscribe to Dirty Mo Media's YouTube channel. That is the only place you will see. Can't wait to see this.

This piece of content. And that's it, Dale. Good stuff from you today. Yeah, it's a good show. I feel like we didn't get to cover everything because it was just so much going on. But I can't sit here for another hour. I got to use the bathroom. I got to get some lunch.

Good stuff. All right. NASCAR's got a big. and we'll be talking about that. ASAP, we're going to let the dust settle. We'll give you our feedback on that. Talk to you soon. See ya.

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