The Dale Jr. Download - 266 - Martha Earnhardt: Mammaw's Story

Episode Date: July 23, 2019

Dale Earnhardt Jr. spends precious time in conversation with his grandmother, the matriarch of the Earnhardt racing legacy, Martha "Mammaw" Earnhardt.  They discuss meeting Ralph Earnhardt, fixing ca...rs for bootleggers, wanting to touch Elvis, setting The Intimidator straight and the time Teresa Earnhardt got smacked.  The DJD gang gets feisty in debating New Hampshire and the Harrison Burton, Paul Menard's altercation.  Odd History uncovers weird times at Pocono, including the day someone mooned Mayfield. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 twist it up again. Just think about the good things. Go into my safe space behind my sunglasses. Put on your sunglasses for the rest of the show, Mike. This is a production of Dirty Mo Media. Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr. for the Dell Jr. download. Back again for another episode. This week's guest on the show today, my grandmother, we call it Mamaw. Yes, you do.
Starting point is 00:00:25 Martha Earnhardt. How many out there say Mammaul? I don't hear it. It's got to be a southern thing. Is that right? I don't know what it is. but we always called her. So anyhow, let's get started then.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It's been a wild race yesterday. Oh, did you enjoy it? I had a great time. I mean, New Hampshire is a great weekend. Matthew went up with us because he loves it. He gets to see the Mads run. The Mads. The Mads.
Starting point is 00:00:54 The Madafights. And the K&N cars are there. Yeah, they had some legend cars racing outside on a little dirt track. That was pretty cool. Honestly, it's a great ticket. I mean, the entire weekend's a lot of fun. The complex, the layout for the campground. I think it's pretty enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:01:13 Hall of Fame. They got a Hall of Fame there. Lots to do in New Hampshire. And we saw a great race. I think we saw great racing in both events on Saturday for the Xfinity race that we covered. And the Modifieds. Yeah, I didn't cover that. The Modifies was great, but the races that I saw and covered.
Starting point is 00:01:34 were excellent. The Xfinity race, Tristaprail, drove away from. New he would. Totally okay with that. There was great racing, though, throughout the field. Great battles. Cendrick, the entertainer. Austin Cendrick.
Starting point is 00:01:48 He was great. I mean, there was a lot of guy. And then you had Paul Minard dumping Harrison Burton. That was really awkward because Jeff Burton's in the booth, covering the race. And he's like, man, can this get any more difficult for me? right now and they said they're talking in our ear they're like hey we're looking for Harrison we're going to get an interview Harrison I said
Starting point is 00:02:10 Jeff Burton yes it's getting ready to get more difficult for you I said yeah this is actually going to get more uncomfortable because they're going to interview your son hopefully he doesn't say anything you'll regret and Harrison handled it awesome yeah that was a great interview I thought I mean listen
Starting point is 00:02:25 the well I think what Paul did was BS you know once I didn't know whether he just cooked it into the corner, you know, you can't assume, look, that was intentional until you look at all the footage and you get the interviews and so forth, and then you can, you know, choose what your opinion is, but he came out and owned it. He said, I ran over him. Yeah, yeah. He hit me, he didn't like it, so I hate him again. Did you see the cell phone video of their conversation on Pit Road? Did you have opinion about that? Yeah, so there's nothing, I think that's more
Starting point is 00:02:59 insulting for you. If you're Harrison Burton, You're almost more insulted by that. His, I think Paul's like, you know, I don't care. Glib, kind of just nonchalant, like, yeah, yeah, I got you, I got you right over here. Yeah, I wrecked you. Yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You know, and his carelessness about, the fact that he didn't give a damn how Harrison felt. At least he didn't lie, though, and say, well, yeah, I didn't mean to, you know, he owned it at least. Just racing. Well, I'm glad he owned it because, you know, that way there was no speculation. whatsoever. But it's, you know, the, there,
Starting point is 00:03:36 and look, he did it, he has his reasons, that's fine, Paul's been around this sport a long time, that's him, he owned it,
Starting point is 00:03:45 but you can, you can obviously have an opinion about it, whether you liked it or didn't like it, and I didn't like it. I didn't think that, I think that you give
Starting point is 00:03:52 what you get, and I just didn't think the punishment fit the crime. You know, Harrison, I had watched Harrison early in the race, and he wasn't leaning on guys.
Starting point is 00:04:02 You know, It's like I think if the guy's out there hassling everybody, yeah, maybe you dump him and teach him a lesson because he's bugged everybody all day long and been a bit of a pain he ass for everyone. But that was really the only time I thought I saw Harrison get aggressive at all. He had been trying to pass guys a lot, had a lot opportunity to pass guys because his car was really good. And he was trying to stay off of them running extremely low tight lines around the corners. And I was saying in the broadcast and talking to Jeff like, man, he needs to use these guys up. a little bit. He needs to take the lane. He needs to go in the corner and just take the position and force those guys to give it to him. And the one time he does it, he gets turned around,
Starting point is 00:04:44 and they really didn't even hit that much or hard. It didn't really knock. It didn't even knock Paul out of the groove. And man, Paul just ended his day. And I just thought that was way over what Harrison deserved. If anything, just moving back up out of the groove, if you want to. I don't know. I don't know what you do, but I just thought that was messed up, man, because Harrison is a young kid. You're coming down into their series.
Starting point is 00:05:11 You're the only cup guy in the field that's down in their series. And the cup guys are there to, you know, have fun, win races, but they also are there to show etiquette, teach those guys kind of how to race as they move up into the cup series, teach them the things that they need to know. And I don't know that Harrison learned anything from that. Not anything good. Well, I learned a lot about Harrison, which is not exactly a solace for him in that case because he got taken out.
Starting point is 00:05:39 But the fact is that Harrison, typically when a rookie or when a new guy comes up and going to give lip to a veteran, I don't like that. I think, you know, rookies typically just need to shut their mouth and take their medicine and, you know, learn their lessons. But Harrison Burton held himself with such class. And the way he addressed that situation was not to go punk Paul Monarch. and make him look silly and make him look like a jerk. They, you know, and he went and addressed it, held his ground, stood firm against it, which I think you're always entitled to do that. Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:12 And to be honest with you, Harrison Burton always has impressed me. I remember sitting at a table with him at the Driven to Give event a few years ago, and I'm like, man, this kid is so impressive. He seems so much more mature than he is, than his age. And yet, there was another Harrison Burton impressing me moment. And to be honest with you, I thought Paul Menard, you know, you don't have expect him to go crazy on anything, but the fact is that this confrontation, if you will, ended with them shaking hands, saying nice job to each other, and splitting amicably, what I felt.
Starting point is 00:06:43 I didn't think so. I didn't see that part of it all. Well, it's in the video. I didn't, I don't see that. Do you think it was sarcastic? You think it was kind of a sarcastic thing? I don't think they were amicable. No. Maybe that's the wrong word. They weren't, they weren't, confrontational in their departure. And I don't make any shake hands did they? Check hands. They didn't see that. They gave each other a pat. Paul Bernard gave him a pat.
Starting point is 00:07:05 Man, Mike has a really broad term for handshaking. Well, it gave him a pat. Look, they ended up. He said nice job to him. And they split, they split amicably. I'm not losing my mind on this. Handshake. I'm just messing with you.
Starting point is 00:07:19 You know, let's pull it up. Social media. Let's pull it up. She was in the middle of tweet. Even if that was it, though, Dale. Is that not prove my point? Are we shaking hands? Hey, Dale.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Hugs, brother. Handshake. What's up? Handshake. Mike, I love you. Shut up. Shut up. I'm going to ask you.
Starting point is 00:07:40 Pull it up. I'm working on it. Come down. It was two days ago. Here we go. It takes a while to go back. The iPad right in front of you. They're hollering at me to pull it up.
Starting point is 00:07:49 Pull it out. They ended up better than we're going to end up right now. Come on. Come down. No, yeah. Yeah. It ain't going to end as well here. Are you?
Starting point is 00:08:01 amicable. You're like my Menard right now. Yeah, yeah. You're my Minard. Mike, are you going to handle a like Harrison? All right, all right. Mike has been pushed.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Doubtful. Mike has been pushed too far. Yeah. Stop. You turn me. It didn't take much today. God, we got some of a show left. All right.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Is there anything else we want to say about the freaking Xfinity race or can we move on to the cup race? Okay, let's move on to the cup race. God, almighty. I make a point about Harrison being mature and then turn to this. Freak holes. Oh, man. Any now, all right, great race on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:08:39 You know, came down to the end. It's very similar to last year where the faster car is, again, Kevin Harvick is chasing, or the faster car is actually chasing down the lead car. Kevin Harvick is on the other end of it this time. He's the lead car being chased down, being hunted. Last year, he was running down, the 18 car, Kyle Bush, moved him out of the way. we get down to the last lap of the race and here it is.
Starting point is 00:09:05 Denny Handel is presented with an opportunity to do whatever he needs. Honestly, you know, he said, look, I'd love to do it differently. I probably should have done it differently.
Starting point is 00:09:18 But Harvick really put himself in a position to make that a tough choice. This is what I wanted to ask you. Yeah. I know Harvick said he did that. And he's saying he's half throttle, which I don't know that I was buying that. But did he really manipulate the situation?
Starting point is 00:09:31 in that he prevented himself or he gave himself a better chance of not being moved and rooted out? Yeah. That's incredible driving. I know. I was so impressed by that. He didn't have throttle the entire straightaway.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Obviously, you see on corner exit. Right. And on corner exit of turn two, he's accelerating past the 11. But he backed up entry to three. He also backed up his entry to one. And I think the reason why he did that, and I'm just guessing,
Starting point is 00:09:56 but if he goes in the corner normally and an example of that would be cobbled, bush the year before. If he goes in the corner like he typically does, it's going to be easy for Denny to go in there and just barely give him a little bump to get him up over the scene out of that third groove where it's completely slick,
Starting point is 00:10:13 no man's land, and it's going to be an easy pass for Denny. And he said, you know what, I'm not going to give Denny that shot. I'm going to back the corner way up. If he hits me and shoves me out of the groove, he's going to have to really be in the throttle, really be shoving the heck out of my race car.
Starting point is 00:10:30 But I'm going to slow this entry way down. and not giving the chance to push me up out of the groove. You've got to go around the outside of me, and if he does that, I'm just going to gas it up and take off and door him off the corner, which he did in turn three and four. Just really good defensive driving for Harvard. If you're in the lead car in that situation, I think that's the best thing you can do,
Starting point is 00:10:49 is to slow down the entry, get the car low, don't allow the guy to drive you up out of the groove, don't allow the guy to get under you, get you in the left for a quarter panel and get you loose. Make him go around the outside, and once he gets out there, you'd be the one that drives him out of the groove. It's amazing.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Yeah, it's what he did. But I can't imagine there being a lot of people to have the wherewithal to actually do that on the last lap. So I'm impressed with how he did that if that's in fact what he did. And you're saying that's what he did. I mean, he manipulated that situation. Usually you're hung out to drive if you're the leader in that case. I was really impressed with Denny on the opportunity in turn three. So he drives down into one and he shoves the four into the corner a little bit.
Starting point is 00:11:30 you know so that was his one try to be aggressive and and do anything with the bumper right and he tried and it didn't work so we're going down the back straight away and i'm thinking my mind okay man if denny goes in there and tries to rough him up again that's kind of like that's a bit taken too much from the table right okay that's like going to the buffet and being a little getting a little too much right yeah and so i'm thinking you know he had his chance to move him it didn't work right can't go down in the next corner and do it all again You know, it just would be a bad look. And Denny didn't.
Starting point is 00:12:04 He's like, I'm going to drive around him. I thought that that was admirable. Impressive. But did he have a choice at that point? Well, the way Kevin Harvick drove. Yeah, Kevin went low. He could have tried to shove him into the corner again and drove him even further into the corner
Starting point is 00:12:17 or maybe he tried harder to shove him up out of the groove. Hold on. But he chose to go to the outside. It's almost like, though, Kevin baited him into doing that. I know. I guess that's my point. Do you think that without the Harvey made? Denny did not initiate more.
Starting point is 00:12:30 contact. That's my point. Okay. I was thought that was pretty admirable that he didn't. He had his opportunity in one. He tried. He did what he did. It didn't work. And he didn't initiate more physical contact with their cars.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I was like, wow, okay, he's going to try to do it the right way. You know, it's okay to push a guy out of the way. It's okay to run over a guy. But if you tried and failed, you don't go down in the next corner and do it, do it, try it all over again. It's like. Oh, I expected him to. I was wondering how that was going to go down. and he drove to the outside like hey I'm going to take this outside lane I'm going to try to make this work and I really thought man
Starting point is 00:13:05 if if harvick doesn't door him the levin's going to beat him off the corner the harvick gassed it and he said it he said man when he got out there i got gassed it and i drove that car i drove off the corner as if the eleven wasn't there and that's what he had to do or he was going to lose the race i thought it was great they got out nobody was pissed i mean obviously denny was disappointed they get out. Nobody's throwing a fit. You know, you got a winner, you got a guy disappointed, but he's saying, hey, I should have done something a little different. Maybe, you know, he didn't say, I don't remember him saying exactly what he might have tried,
Starting point is 00:13:40 but he's probably, I mean, that's what you do when you lose. You relive and think, man, what could I have done? And I just was really happy to leave the racetrack, feeling good about the race, feeling good about a great finish. We had great battles all day long. Yeah. Great strategy, interesting strategy. You guys taking no tires, two tires, four times.
Starting point is 00:13:58 hires, comers and goers, people getting past. Yeah, you see Kyle Bush make a mistake going into term one, one of the best race car drivers in our sport. You saw it happen. You were watching. You were glued to it because as he, as soon as he came out of the groove, you were like, whoa, watch it. And then boom, right into the wall.
Starting point is 00:14:14 And then Clint Boyer and Truex on the front straightaway. I mean, you're seeing the best in our business in difficult situations, you know, dealing with adversity, dealing with these struggles and frustrations. and it's awesome because you know that they're being tested, right? You know that they're in, you know, the cars are hard to drive. I was telling us, I was tell Steve LaTart at this on the way home. I was like, you know what I've learned about racing this year? I don't care how much down force they put on the cars.
Starting point is 00:14:45 I don't care how much grip they put in, we all were hearing it at the start of the year. Oh, man, wide open, easy. This ain't going to be any fun. Man, this ain't going to be any fun. Not fun to watch, not fun watching them just flat-footed everywhere. I don't care what you do to the cars, what package and rules you put on it. Those engineers and crew chiefs are going to make them hard to drive, because that's how they go fast.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Right. So you think, man, you look at those spoilers and the splitters and all that and think, man, them things are, they're stuck. Ain't a way they're going to get loose. Ain't the way they're going to slide and get and wreck and hit walls. Nobody's going to spin out today. We don't have any cautions. Not because if you want to go fast,
Starting point is 00:15:28 It's going to have to be uncomfortable. And that's what the engineers and crew chiefs do. They make them fast. And you have to drive it. And so I know we had a little more horsepower this weekend than typically, but we saw it at Kentucky, even with the low horsepower guys getting out of the, we saw some time champion Jimmy Johnson bust his butt.
Starting point is 00:15:46 I mean, they're hard to drive. They put them on the edge. And the cars, it's fun to watch. It's fun to watch. We've had some great racing, particularly since the NBC's taken over. I don't know why that is. This has happened two years a row where he has been.
Starting point is 00:15:59 You guys get some races. We get some great races, man. You know who has an opinion about driving how easy it is out there? Alex Bowman after this weekend. Yeah. So easy. He's on his third car. And he still ended up finishing.
Starting point is 00:16:11 But here's the thing. Everybody torched the guy like he was John West Townley. We were talking, we were having ice cream and talking about it because he was like, man, everybody's all over me. And I'm like, well, yeah, to Twitter, you're John West Townley. But it's like, dude, your first deal. It was a drive shaft. It wasn't your fault.
Starting point is 00:16:26 You only wrecked one car. You know? Yeah. Well, anytime you get, end up driving. I did not even since that. I did not since. He did. He said that it's like, man, just Twitter's all over.
Starting point is 00:16:36 That's his Twitter being mean again. That's his innate personality, though. Before he even got out of the car after the second one, he's like, oh, I didn't tear up the first one. That was not my fault. He's defensive already. Yeah. So, you know, I wanted to ask you about the last 10 or 15 laps. I was prepared to come in here and.
Starting point is 00:16:56 give you a hard time almost in a fun joking way. Give it. Give it to him, Mike. I can handle it on this podcast. Amicably. This is, uh... We'll shake hands afterwards. I was wrong. I was prepared to accuse you guys of creating unnecessary drama in the past
Starting point is 00:17:14 in the 10 or 15 laps by saying, this is the last thing Harvick needed or here he comes, Hamlin's faster, even if you'd be like 2,000th of a second faster. And it's like, there's no way. And I wasn't alone in this because I, know that like with five to go gluck tweeted barring a caution this one's harvicks right yeah and which wasn't sure what that's my point obviously is that something in the last five laps i mean even denny busted his ass and lost a lot of time within the last five laps and i thought that was it
Starting point is 00:17:43 that was your chance and yet at the end everything you guys were kind of building up came to fruition in a big way with that last lap drama and so i stand corrected if i was going to prepare to give you a hard time. I was also prepared to fall in the store myself and say, wow, they got that race. And, you know, Rick Allen saying, this is the last, this traffic, this lap traffic is not what Harvick wanted to see. Turns out, Rick Allen was 100% right. Because that lap traffic slowed him down enough for Denny to get back to his bumper. Yeah. So the one car that gave, the one car that created the biggest issue for Harvick was Austin Dillon. Oh, really? So the lap, a lap or show before that, They catch Corey LaJoy off the turn four.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And Corey pulled down and got way out of the way and said, I ain't going, I ain't want none of this. You know, I don't want to be the guy, you know, that gets these two battling. And gets the four cars spun out off the nose at 11 or something like that, right? So that's what you're thinking is a lap car. And then they caught Austin, and Austin ran his line, which he can. Totally his prerogative to make Harvick go by on the inside, which he did. Well, he's not going to pull over for Harvick.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Well, I'm not going to speculate whether he did that on purpose. No. But he ran his line. He didn't move out of the way. And Harvick had to go around him on the bottom and lost a ton of momentum. And off term four, the 11 car is there within reach, physically reach. And so you're thinking, oh, man, down here in turn one, he's going to have to hit him. There's no way that 11 can get by clean on the last lap.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Right. Got to hit him. And that's okay. Totally acceptable. But the way those, the giant spoiler on the back of the car, even at that mile and a half, half, the guy, you know, you can be 15 car links behind a car and feel some, you know, arrow deficiency. And as you get within 10 car links, you certainly start to feel it.
Starting point is 00:19:36 I mean, it's a big wake behind these cars. So especially on old tires laid in a run. It's definitely a problem. You're not, you're going to lose time. You're not going to run as fast. So the other thing, too, I think that helps us in the booth. And I don't know if I can articulate this well. But I was saying this to Steve during the race and the commercial.
Starting point is 00:19:58 You know, Steve's a crew chief. He's watching from the booth high above. Imagine what sort of the perspective that an offensive coordinator has for a football team. Why is the offensive coordinator up there? Why? Instead of down on the ground. So he can see. Right.
Starting point is 00:20:12 You can see the whole. See things develop. Yep. So Steve's up there and he's like pulling his hair out with some of the decisions these crew chiefs are making. Why didn't they do this? Why didn't they do that? And I said, Steve, I said, I'm telling you, man, it's the perspective from this booth compared to being down on the ground on the pit box. This view is better.
Starting point is 00:20:33 This view gives you a better opportunity to understand how the race is unfolding, to see a car on two tires and how well it's doing versus the field and be able to make a decision for yourself to make that choice later. It's easier to see. and you can make those decisions with way more confidence with this perspective in the booth. One time, years ago, I think Chad Canouse was suspended in the last race of the season at Homestead, and they said, you can't be inside the track.
Starting point is 00:21:04 So he called the race from a booth. And I said to myself, that's almost going to be an advantage. He doesn't know it, and NASCAR doesn't know it, but he's actually going to be able to call the race better from that perspective. Being forced in that situation to sitting that booth
Starting point is 00:21:21 and call it from that vantage point, he's actually going to go, you know what, this is not half bad. I actually might like this better. Right. If he can be okay with the releasing of the physicality of being able to be down there with the team and go up to a guy and speak to him face to face, the booth is the better perspective.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Right. And it's my understanding and I guess it's my theory that in years from now, all the crew chiefs will be in booths. You said that recently on here. Yep, they will. They'll be all in the booths from some high vantage point directing that race. The car chief will be on the pit box in charge of the personnel, the physical confrontation and conversations he has with his team.
Starting point is 00:22:03 The crew chief will direct the race and the strategy and everything from a vantage point, such as the booth. And so while we're up there calling that race, we can understand, I think, better than Gluck in a press box, or maybe Gluck has the same view as we do. I don't know. But if he's in the Middicenter, he obviously doesn't. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:22:22 But a crew chief or a guy watching on TV, we have probably the best seat in the house to be able to understand, is this guy being affected by this lap traffic? Is this guy faster and is he going to catch him? I could tell, like, Denny, barring, you know, Denny was gaining so much ground and the four car was really starting to nose
Starting point is 00:22:45 over on his lap time and his comfort and his car's you know his ability to get into the corner comfortably and fast enough and denny was really starting to eat into you know his his lead i mean it was just obvious that it was going to be close enough for denny to get to make physical contact in that last lap and obviously d'allston dillon really made that happen a lot quicker i thought danny would get to him in the last corner but denny with austin and the four having to go to the low side of him in turn three and four, that created that opportunity much sooner. Yeah. Do you think Denny went too soon?
Starting point is 00:23:20 Should he have saved his primary move for the last turn? No, you got to do it when you get a chance. When you pull up to him. You're so eager. Yeah, you're so eager. Boy, if he waits and does it in three and four and it doesn't work, you're going to go, oh, I should have tried it as soon as I got the year. You don't want to give a guy a chance to start thinking of more.
Starting point is 00:23:38 I mean, Harvick down the front straightaway, maybe you thought about it sooner, formed a planned for turn one, right? And that short period of time had a defense, right? You don't want to give the guy a whole other half a lap to think about what he's going to do in three and four to stop you from taking this win away. But Harvick's a hard one to take anything from. I thought, man, Denny's going to flat have to spin him out almost to get through him. Give him credit, man. The guy can wheel it.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Gosh, almighty, you're trying to wreck him. If you are so good at driving on the last lap that you're hard to even wreck. Hard to move. That's impressive. You've got to give him credit. Well, you know what else is impressive, buddy? Tell me. Baville! Let's hear about it. Yeah, why? I have one.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Real quick. I have one thing to add. I was scrolling through Twitter after the race, and did you guys see the tweet about how much weight Matt D. Benedetto lost during the race? Oh, yeah. 9.2 pounds during the race day. That was just incredible to me. How do you even, like, how do you even recover from that? Like, what's he feel like today? It's all water weight. I know, but.
Starting point is 00:24:44 Pound waters and Gatorade's. I saw that tweet, and my first thought was it probably. Paul the Bull Bernard, he likes pickle juice. Is that right? What? That's what I heard. But I don't know that that's why he was so sour after that race. You do?
Starting point is 00:24:58 Losing nine pounds didn't seem as unusual to me because what was more unusual that they just weight him. No, NBC Sports. He volunteered for that. Oh, I got you. Okay. They weighed them free and post. Yeah, I always. soon that you know drivers are losing seven eight pounds nine pounds i think the average yeah the average
Starting point is 00:25:17 is six to eight pounds did did you weigh less or more this weekend after eating that lobster i think lobster's pretty locale so probably about the same i don't think i gained or gained or lost anyway was it good yeah lobster oh yeah i have a few of those next door every so this is one thing i like about new hampshire um Greg zippedelli has some friends and they all park next door in the bus lot to me and they cook a ton of lobster. And so they do this every year. They brought over two whole lobsters. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And I just ripped the tail off, take some scissors and cut the tail open and get that out and eat that. But I didn't eat the claws. And I heard that I should, the claws are better. Is that right? That's what Steve LaTart told me. How do you not eat the claws? Because I'm, you know, when you think lobster, what do you think? Tail.
Starting point is 00:26:06 No. I guess, I guess. When you think. Crab. Crab. Crab. When you think crabs, you think legs, right? Lobster, tail.
Starting point is 00:26:14 Crabb, legs. They don't have a tail. Crabbs. No one says, hey, man. Everybody got a tail. Hey, man, I'll take that. What's the special? Lobster Claw.
Starting point is 00:26:21 Nobody says that. Lobster Claw. You've got that point. Come on, man. Go on a hard time. By the way. I don't know. It was a belly tap.
Starting point is 00:26:31 A haphazard belly tap. Oh, there was. It was a handshake. It was a handshake. But I feel like there's somebody corrected themselves that it was a tap. Feel like somebody said it. Roll the tape.
Starting point is 00:26:40 It's a tab. It's a little haphazard little belly tap. Well, it's definitely wasn't a hey, buddy, good job. Shake hands like you. I didn't say that, though, did I? He did. I said. They didn't have lobster afterwards.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I said they split amicably and with a tap. No, you said they shook hands. I corrected that after I said. And said good job. Like, good job. And you said they said good job to each other. He said great out of them. He might have said good job, but I think it was so classic.
Starting point is 00:27:06 Excuse me. He said, not. He said nice job. The king of sarcasm over here. He said nice job. They exchanged pleasantries. Shook hands. You guys, I'm going to help you out here.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Offered some positive criticism of each other's performance. I'm going to help all you guys out here. Y'all are going to go find out that you're so wrong. I got the video. I sent it to you. And did you hear it? It's right there. Did you listen?
Starting point is 00:27:26 No, because I'm going to help you out because somebody on Twitter's going to call your ass out. And you will have to say, you know what? Mike said, I was wrong on this. He says, nice job. Now, y'all going to not believe me and make fun of me now, or are you going to put it on? Listen to it. I'm just willing to be wrong just for how fun it is. I was ready to move on.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Y'all brought it back up. No, not move on. I said, I'm willing to be wrong just for getting under your skin a little bit, having fun with you. Oh, good job. Good job. Good job. I was right the first time. He was a smart ass.
Starting point is 00:27:57 You're going to sarcastic. Of course I said that too, didn't I? But you're shaking your head, I'm right. I guess he said. So you should shake your head like this. You're right, Mike. Like, good job. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Come on. That's so sarcastic. I didn't say that it was not sarcastic. Great job. I said it was amicable, which I'm not wrong. All of it. Great job on this segment, Dale. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:20 Yeah, I'm right. Wow, that escalated quickly. Yeah. You guys are so. Hey, you do a good job. Well, this is why. This is why you guys in the booth are sitting there just going along with him because you got no. No, no.
Starting point is 00:28:32 You don't have, Leah doesn't have a thought of her own. Matthew's going along with it. And so I'm right. I'm an idiot. I don't have any thoughts on my own. That's the root of all of this. And you calm down. Brian's over there cracking up.
Starting point is 00:28:45 When Brian's laughing up, that's probably a good thing. All right, so do y'all want to do apologies now? Or do you all want to save it for social media? I think you're the one that needs to apologize. I'm just like Paul Monard. Of course, you know.
Starting point is 00:28:54 If Dale would have apologized, then Lee would have been like, you know what I'm sorry to. All right. He'll give you your next line. Don't worry. Oh, my gosh. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:29:03 I'm good. I'm good. I'm Paul Monard. All right. Good job. Good job. Good job. That's what he said.
Starting point is 00:29:09 Oh, good job. That's such a good job. It's what he said. Oh, God Almighty. You sons of... It just occurred to me. Here you go. It just occurred to me.
Starting point is 00:29:18 I'm going to have to stay off Twitter this week. Why? Because this is what happens. Oh. This last time this happened, he got roasted on Twitter. And he was dead. And I was right then, too. But...
Starting point is 00:29:30 You were on that one. In fact, I was. And this one, too. Dale even later said to me, they'll later admitted like a few weeks later I was right without him realizing it yeah I might stay off Twitter
Starting point is 00:29:41 yeah because everybody you and Alex Bowman just get off Twitter for a while well you might enjoy a break I've been taking breaks actually but yeah they're gonna be like Little Lee you're right you're right man
Starting point is 00:29:54 that wasn't real that was sarcasm little Lee I'll stay off all right yeah we were moving on to a Valvaline read until Leah interested You had the best most natural segue. I did.
Starting point is 00:30:07 And Leah had a thought of her own. I had a thought of my own that I never, never happened. So I thought I'd join in. I guess another thing Mike's wrong about. Where's my lesson? Another thing Mike's wrong about. She had a thought of her own. I'm going to sit over here, and I'm just going to be one of those Twitter people that just weighs in on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:30:23 Talk to us. You should. If I have a couple burner, I bet she has a couple burner accounts. I would love to have a burner account. She just needles, Mike. This is what you get. On social, that wouldn't work. Only you guys have that effect on me.
Starting point is 00:30:39 Man, apparently. You guys are wrong about things, and it's like... The only thing that I like... Only thing that I really care anything about was that you said they shook hands and they didn't, and I wanted to poke on all the different things we could do that you might call a handshake. Yeah, I remember you doing that.
Starting point is 00:30:58 Like, is this a handshake? So that's all I want. I just wanted to have fun with that. But then, like, Ranan Stimpy over here, had the old pile on. I'm going to start making, I'm going to start making a list of all the insults. Look at it. What did y'all just do there?
Starting point is 00:31:12 Y'all did kind of. That was not a handshake. That was a high five. I didn't say it was a handshake. What do y'all do? Y'all doing that little thing that Bernard and Harrison did. I didn't tap his belly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:22 No, thanks. This is awesome. All right. Sadly, we got to move on to our ad read here for Valvillin. Before we bring him Mammal here, let's get this one. Say what? I derailed him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:40 You guys just don't want him to read the Valvene? No. Just say so. Valvene, we love you, but. Let me tell you all about Vivalene. Why? Because Junior Nation knows I was sponsored by Vivalene for several years, and I even drove a Vivalene car at Darlingkin back in 2015.
Starting point is 00:31:55 It was a great paint scheme. As many of the Vavalin cars have raced in NASCAR, all of them are awesome. I really like this one. This is a throwback to kind of like Kelyarboro, Rambu. Shard, a couple different guys. A lot of different drivers are sponsored by motor oils, but Vavilene, they're something different. They're more than just a logo on my suit or on my car.
Starting point is 00:32:12 They're a real partner. They're hands-on. You know, years ago, I thought that you bought oil, you put it in your race car, and you went to the track, you raced, not Vivalene. They actually send teams over to Charlotte to work directly with our engine guys in the garage to squeeze out more horsepower depending on whatever track that we needed. The horsepower, where we needed it, where we needed the power to be, the torque to be.
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Starting point is 00:33:05 That's valvline.com slash dell. We've never had a guest that can come in here and tell Dale Jr. You better be listening to me. Yes, there you have. We have? Kelly? I got some tails. RCR.
Starting point is 00:33:22 There's a half of them. Dale Jarrett. Now you listen. Brenda? You listen to this. Brenda? We've got a lot of guests. All right.
Starting point is 00:33:29 I stand corrected by them all. You're just like all the others. Well, I grew up in the sport, grew up around it. My dad raced, you know. And Ralph Earnhardt proves that it can run almost as fast. I came from the hardworking side of the track, like racing. A lot of hard work and a lot of sacrifice. It's going to be Dan Earnhardt Jr. using lessons.
Starting point is 00:33:57 He's loaded from his spot. He worked hard. That was the hardest Hardest race ever drove. All right, ma'am, welcome to the show. Thank you. You know, we've had a lot of great guests on our show this year, but in the past as well.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But I'm excited about this. We've got a lot of great questions, obviously, that we want to ask you. I've got some stories to tell, too. Do you? Have you? So I guess, you know, a lot of this stuff I'll be hearing for the first time.
Starting point is 00:34:27 But go back to how you and Ralph met. Actually, him and his brother came to watch their cousin that went to O'Dill School where I went. Yep. And they come to watch her play ball, basketball. And I was on the ball court. And Jay told me, Rice's brother told me that when he saw me on the ball court, he told him that that was a girl he was going to marry. Yeah. Oh, wow, just watching a basketball game.
Starting point is 00:34:56 And they introduced us that night, and we started dating, went from there. Wow. was it. That was it. Pretty much a man who knew what he wanted. Absolutely. Yeah. At a basketball game.
Starting point is 00:35:07 And when you saw him, did you think he was good looking? Oh, yeah. He was kind of a quiet person. He wasn't real talkative, but he let you know what he wanted to tell you, and that was the main thing. Yeah. Yeah, the one thing, so Ralph passed away in 73. I was born in 74, and I'd never heard, I'd never seen any video of him. there's no home video or any we didn't have stuff like that but right so i went through
Starting point is 00:35:37 the majority of my you know 21st 25 or so years of my life having never heard the sound of his voice the speed of his cadence his mannerisms thing you know you know dad had that thing with his smile the one side of his face his eyes are you know he had certain eyes that were recognizable or things or traits about his mannerisms and i'd never seen that in rattle and or knew what that sounded like or what he heard so many stories about what an awesome driver he was great man yeah he started on the old dirt track yeah and then one day dad brought dad pulled this tape out and stuck it in the VCR and said how want you watch you so I got this video and daddy's in here and he's talking and I said whoa
Starting point is 00:36:23 you know but it's buckled down and I'm excited and we watched this video and it was a race around that Ralph ran a sportsman race ran he ran against Leroy Yarbrough and Bobby Allison, a couple of other guys at Sharmer Speedway, and Ralph ended up winning once they found the car of Leroy Yarbrough illegal. And they interviewed Ralph, Chris McConaughey, I believe interviewed Ralph, and you hear him talk, complain his day. I mean, really, a really, really great example of his mannerisms, his cadence, his sound. And that was really amazing.
Starting point is 00:36:58 And I'm trying to imagine, as you're telling these stories, that sounds. and his speed and his talk. And you said he was a quiet guy, didn't, you know, wasn't a chatty kind of guy. Was his personality always the same? Y'all knew each other your whole lives, right? Did his personality change as he grew up? And what kind of man was he, I guess, as a teenager versus the father? We first got married, you know, he worked for Berlin Edelman down in the garage down on 29.
Starting point is 00:37:30 So he was a mechanic? Yeah. working on cars, all his life. Right. And when he was thinking about something, you didn't talk to him. Kind of like Dad. Yeah. Because you could talk to him, he wouldn't answer you.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Uh-uh. He'd keep his amount of what he was thinking about, you know. So Dad decided to quit high school, and Ralph was not happy about that. So do you remember how that sort of conversation went or the few weeks where that was sort of happening and dad i can't i just can't imagine dad allowing me or kelly to have to have to be able to make that decision like he'd be like no you're going to school and i'm going to drive you there if i have to myself so how did that all work out i think it's because dale really got behind in school and he was older than he failed twice or at least twice he was 16 in the eighth grade so how did that
Starting point is 00:38:23 conversation so he was way behind and he comes in one day and says i'm i've got an idea i don't want to go to school anymore? I can't remember exactly how it happened. It's just the fact that he just he would do everything to keep from going to school. Yeah. And so it just, we just finally, he just finally to give up and we just let him go, whatever. So when he was that age, what was he spending his time? What was dad spending his time doing in the garage with Ralph? Yeah. So even though he was doing something like quit getting out, you know, he's quitting school, going against Ralph's wishes, because he said that over and over throughout his life how that disappointed his father. Ralph would let him come in there and work.
Starting point is 00:39:02 He made him work, I suppose. If you're not going to go to school, you're going to have to do something. Absolutely, he did. So he worked out in the garage with his dad. Do you remember the first race car you ever saw, whether it was Ralph's or anybody else's, your first memory of racing? Well, actually, I think where Ralph got the need for speed, was he used to work on bootlegger cars, him in Berlin.
Starting point is 00:39:27 He did. When he worked at Berlin-Eleman's garage, they had work on bootleggers, and Ralph would deliver them back to the bootleggers. And I think that's where he got the need for speed. He loved that. Yeah, I bet. Being able to drive those hot rods back over to the bootlegger.
Starting point is 00:39:46 I'd never even heard that. I didn't know he... They lived up in North Whistpur up that way. Yeah. And he delivered a lot of them back. And he loved it. We got married. I was 17.
Starting point is 00:39:59 He was 19 when we got married. How long had y'all dated? About six months. Oh, my gosh. Boy, Ralph really knew what he wanted. Like he said, well, he saw me on the ball court that day, and that was it. And they introduced us. He fell in love, man.
Starting point is 00:40:15 That jump shot was pretty. Were you real good at basketball? Yeah. I loved to play basketball. I did not know that. Yeah. Yeah, that must be where I get it. I might see me on the basketball court.
Starting point is 00:40:30 I love it. He knows better than that. Yeah, I play basketball and softball. All right, so y'all got married. First kid. Was Kay. Kay. And how long have y'all been married?
Starting point is 00:40:42 We'd been married about, we'd be done. It was over a year. Okay, so right away, y'all are having kids. And how many kids did you have, them all? I had five. Five kids. Did you think you were going to have five kids when you were? you got married?
Starting point is 00:40:55 Did you want five kids? Like, so me and Amy, we're talking like, no, I didn't want it. Like, I'm thinking, too. Well, I loved them, you know, but I wasn't really, wasn't really ready yet for the whole world. Right. But, so what's that all,
Starting point is 00:41:08 what's that conversation like with Ralph? Like, when we don't stop having these kids? Because me and Amy have been talking and we're like, yeah, we'd love to have just two. Two's good. So. You need to get a ball way, you know, get your way. Well, is that why y'all kept having kids?
Starting point is 00:41:24 is to get that boy? Well, we had two girls. We had three boys. We had two girls, then we had three boys. After the first boy, why didn't you stop trying? Who was the first boy? Was it Randy or Dale? It was Dale.
Starting point is 00:41:35 Yeah. And then Randy and then Danny. So Danny is the baby. Danny's the baby. Yeah, he seems to be annoyed to be the baby sometimes. He doesn't like being the baby. In fairness, Danny seems annoyed about a lot of them. He was 60, 63 years old.
Starting point is 00:41:49 I know. So you had a couple girls. Kathy, who's here in the studio, she raced a little bit. Did you think that was, is that good with you? She won 15 ladies races. Yeah. They used to have races called the Powder Puff Division, where the females would race at the dirt tracks in Metroliner or Concord.
Starting point is 00:42:12 And she was extremely good. And she'd done real good. Did you mind her racing? Well, actually, I really worried about her. Right. Because she, you know. But then you saw her go out there and do so good. I bet you were like, hey, put her in the guys division.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Let's see what she can do. She could have won. She said she had supposed to be in the first boy, and Dale got her ride. Did you ever race? I tried it one time. Let's hear about it. I don't think I've heard this story.
Starting point is 00:42:41 Ralph and this Bud Alman owned two cars together. And me and his, they decided to let me and his wife drive at Hickory Speedway one way. Like was there a women's division then? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And we was going to run it in the ladies race. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Well, me and her both wrecked and tore the cars up. They had to fix, and they had our race before Ralph's race. Oh, no. So they had to take both cars and fix one for Ralph to drive in the main event. Between the two cars, they had to make one work, build one. Now, Ralph has little to say. That was something to say about that. That was my own one.
Starting point is 00:43:22 One and only. That was it for you? Yes. But you tell that story because you were always upset that he didn't let you actually practice the car. Is that right? Well, that's a yes, right. And so what did he expect from you? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:43:37 I mean, you don't get to practice the car. I did not. We just got out there and started going to run and trying to run. And it just didn't work. I just wasn't meant to be a race car driver. What Routh think about the crash? well they like said they had to take both cars and fix him one to drive him so you wouldn't worry about you well no not really
Starting point is 00:43:59 I didn't get hurt or anything right still I would have been when Amy's wrecked it she ran a little race one time in bandoleros and she wrecked I was like oh hey you okay because she was real claustrophobic she didn't want to be inside of me well I didn't really wreck that bad I just run into the wall almost right in front of the grandstand where everybody could see me. Oh, yeah, you weren't going to be cryptic about that. Everybody saw you right that one. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:28 So when y'all were at the racetrack at the dirt track, taking your kids to the racetrack, of course, your five kids, what kind of kid was dad at the racetrack? Was he playing in the dirt? You know, how long was it for he's grown up, and he grew up and started wanting to be around the car helping Ralph? Well, I think that all happened when out there in the garage. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:47 How old was dad when he started really start, becoming a mechanic of his own. Well, he tried after Ralph passed away, he tried to run the garage by itself. Yeah. But when he was old, I'm just saying, like, old enough to go out there and actually work on the car. How old was he? Probably about 14 or so. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:03 And so he's out in the garage helping Ralph and going to, would he travel with Ralph to the races? We towed the car with our family car. Really? Yeah. Well, I never will forget one time when he was coming back from Murder Beach. we was racing at Myrtle Beach and we was coming to grow up and I was driving Ralph was laying down
Starting point is 00:45:24 resting and I was driving I started slowing down and Ralph said what's wrong he raised up and I said well I can't get this race car across that big long bridge he said well Martha if you drive the car
Starting point is 00:45:37 the race car follow it I mean really it was dark and it was scary and it just kind of scared me but anyway we got you all had it what kind of car did y'all have I know old's mobile green Osmobile and you towed the race car with the green nose mobile my god but you could not put nothing gray in I couldn't get nothing in that car with nothing green right so yeah talk about that yeah so Ralph was Ralph believed in those
Starting point is 00:46:09 superstitions of green was bad luck no peanuts no peanuts no peanuts the story is you tell me whether it's true or not that when he pulled a gun on somebody that was around his car with peanuts i'm not sure about that's over there shaking her head yes what that seems like an overreaction more than i do yeah pulled a gun on yeah he's wild in the pits man yeah well things used to be different right then seriously though he's that different he's pulled a gun for bringing peanuts listen i i mean you're you need to ask ralph yeah he didn't want peanuts i guess don't get don't bring to Danny Peanuts. And now they just argued back in the day.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It used to be two-by-fours and guns. Yeah. And crowbars, jack-handles. So do you remember meeting Brenda G? Yes, I do. When did y'all meet? Well, I can't remember exactly the date. Do you remember if you liked her or not?
Starting point is 00:47:06 Yeah, I liked her. What did you think about her? I just thought she's a cool person. Yeah? Yeah. She was full of herself. She was. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:16 She certainly was full of herself. Yeah. That's a great way to describe mom. Yeah. So did dad come to y'all and say, hey, I'm going to get married. I'm going to marry Brenda? Were you cool with it? Surprise.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Yeah, I was fine with it. I like Brenda. Yeah. She was a cute, nice, nice woman. Yeah. So y'all didn't contemplate too much if one of your kids was going to get married. Y'all just was like, all right, sounds good. Well, they don't do it anyway.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Right. Yeah, but did they'll do anything that made you angry? Oh, yes. Well, what did he do? Because it's like, you know, quitting school. Well, it seems like he's going to be that way. And then we're getting married. We like Brennan.
Starting point is 00:47:53 What did he do that agitated you? Well, he was always into something. I don't know. He would remember exactly what, but he was always up to something. Like mischievous? Yeah. How do you get mischievous out of Dale Earnhardt? Well, I threatened to whip him, but nine times out of ten I didn't.
Starting point is 00:48:13 Probably couldn't catch him. No, probably not. So one time I heard that... He was not a bad kid. He was just... One time I heard that he got into Ralph's beer in the garage and drank it and tried to put water in it and put the... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:29 No, I don't remember that. I do. He told me about it. He said, I went out there. He said, the worst whoopin I got from Ralph was me and my buddies got in his beer and his cooler about halfway through there. You know, we took a couple's drinks out of it. And then we realized that we were going to...
Starting point is 00:48:46 really get in big trouble once we started to figure out that the beer wasn't that good and that the repercussions were going to be bad and he tried to put water back in it and Ralph obviously you know realized what was going on and wore him out of course he did school quit school ain't that big of it don't drink my beer though that will get you the whoopin I think dad would tell me that one thing about Ralph is he didn't want you to he did not like it when you lied to him when you told him when you were dishonest that's right that's right That was the worst thing he could be. It didn't matter how small of a lie it was that he did not put up with that.
Starting point is 00:49:25 That makes sense? Yeah. When Ralph passed away, do you recall how it affected the kids? Because I've always heard stories that, like, you know, Dale Earnhardt, you know, it obviously affected him when you lose your dad. But, like, what do you recall of the kids in the aftermath of his passing? Well, y'all, I mean, I imagine it was a very difficult time. It was a very sad time.
Starting point is 00:49:45 I think Kathy had me and you went to take Grandma back to the mountains. Yeah, she says, yeah. We stopped in Canton to see the presses that Ralph used to drive a race car for. And she told us we needed to call home. And so Kathy called home when Ralph had passed away. And a lady told me later that she said her husband had sent her over there to see if Ralph had a park for a car. and he Ralph was started in the back door
Starting point is 00:50:20 and he told her to be back in a minute well he went in and she said she heard a thump like something fell and he didn't come back out so she went in and he was laying in front of the sink and said his water was running like he had been trying to wash his face
Starting point is 00:50:35 and she found my phone and went and went and got one of my neighbors this purseer but he that's how he died Yeah, a lot of people want to say that he died in his garage working on his car just because it sounds like a better story. But the truth is, he died in his kitchen. That's right.
Starting point is 00:50:53 The kitchen that we all celebrate a lot of our family reunions in year after year after year. It makes that place even more special. So that bothered. You know, Dad's talked about it in many interviews, how that bothered him to lose his father so young. And I think that makes it even more impressive to me that he was able to make it the way he did in cup racing and become the champion. he was without that guidance because Ralph's guidance would have been invaluable to him. So how did he not lose his way in 1974, 75, 76? Well, he started, like I said, trying to work out of the garage and do everything that his dad did.
Starting point is 00:51:32 Was he working on people's cars as well and racing? Yeah. And so he gathered up Ralph's stuff and then started going to the racetrack. He's going to be a con- he's going to make it and racing. He was going to try it. Yeah. And then Rod Austerlund gave him a chance, his first chance, to prove what he could do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Yeah, that must have been tough because losing his father and losing his motivator and mentor and all that, that happened in 73. Really, he got his first cup ride in 75. I mean, he must have been running all over town trying to wheel and deal and connect and network and creating relationships. He probably didn't even know he was creating that would become. profitable quickly. He got his first race in a cup car in 75 at Charlotte and Ed Negris car and then that dovetailed into a couple more opportunities in 76, 7 and 78 he ran a couple races of Will Cronkite's car. I learned that the car that he drove for Will Cronkite that he actually ran in the top 10 at
Starting point is 00:52:42 Talladega or he had some great runs. He ran well at Darlington, Talladega, was the Budmore Ford that Buddy Baker won three in a row with at Talladega. Really? Yeah. I read that in a story that from way back where Will Cronkite states that he bought that car from Bud Moore, and it was a good car because it had won those three races at Talladega. And Dad got in it. Dad goes over to the shop to put his seat in it and beat the floorboard half to death
Starting point is 00:53:14 and cut the bottom of the car to get the seat all down to where he wanted it and all that. And Will's like, dang, I just bought this thing. And this kid's tearing it up. And I was in the truck, a little kid. Yeah. Dad parked, did I tell you this? No, but this is all. Yeah, so dad, Will Cronkite sent me a letter.
Starting point is 00:53:35 And he's like, when your dad came over to the shop in 78 to put his seat in the car to run Charlotte, he pulled his truck up into the garage and rolled the window down, and I was in there at four years old and leaned over the driver's side door looking out the window and watched them do that. Watched them work for four hours. Never said a word. Dad never went into the truck and seen if I needed anything to eat or anything. They just worked.
Starting point is 00:54:04 They had to go to the bathroom. They just worked away four or five feet away, and I'm sitting there just watching them the whole time. Wow. Yeah. I didn't know that. Because you don't remember of some of that, you know, you can't remember that far back in your... That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:54:15 I do remember my fourth birthday, and that happened in your kitchen, ma'amaw. Mom, you, maybe a couple other people were in there, and it's my fourth birthday. We're in your kitchen. The word is that dad's not going to be there. I was a little disappointed. And then he come rolling around the corner, riding on a quarter-scale, so he's a little bit of of size tonka truck like a dunk like a tonka dump truck a yellow tonka truck and he come in there smiling he had on black jeans and a white t-shirt and he come around from the washington dryer
Starting point is 00:54:54 side around that corner yeah surprised he's like hey i'm i never forget it that's the earliest memory i have of my childhood did you go to the 1979 Daytona 500 dad's first Daytona 500 where remember it rained you weren't there i think so what i think i did do you remember remember Dad's first win at Bristol? Oh, yeah. Were you there? What was that like? Exciting.
Starting point is 00:55:19 That was my favorite racetrack, was Bristol. Really? What was so good about Bristol? I just loved it. I just thought it was exciting to watch. Because, you know, it was all turns almost. Were you shocked that day when Dad won that race? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I was excited for him. What's easier watching your head? husband race or watching your son race? Actually, I'll rephrase that. What's more difficult? Is it watching your husband or watching your kids race? It's more difficult. Were you nervous?
Starting point is 00:55:52 That's part of me out there while racing. Yeah. Yeah. It was hard to watch kids just like with Kathy. She poured me to death racing, but she won all of her races. Took Dale a while to start winning. Were you surprised about, you know, Dad winning championships so early in 1980,
Starting point is 00:56:16 his second full season in the Cup series? I was excited for him. Yeah. I got a picture on the wall over there from Sergeant Peppers. They used to go to Sergeant Peppers and have all their parties. And that's the framed banner, I guess, what would you call that? Flyer.
Starting point is 00:56:31 poster. Yeah. Yeah. What was Sergeant Peppers? Yeah. It was a bar. It was just a pluck like a club. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:37 are. So Sergeant Pepper Salutes, Dale Earnhardt, number two, and the Australon Racing team. Is that in Canapolis? Mm-hmm. You've been in the same house for 63 years. 63 years in the same house. We moved there when I was pregnant with Danny. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:56:54 The last kid. Wow. Where did y'all live before that? In an apartment house. So when I remember were the first thing that I noticed when I went to your house that you live in now, that you moved into when Danny was in your belly. was you had figurines of Elvis Presley. Oh, I still got Elvis on my. You do?
Starting point is 00:57:15 I still got a small thing, a statue of him. So I have an Elvis room in my house. Yeah. And I've always had an Elvis room in my house and have all kinds of collectibles and stuff like that. And that's because of Mamaw. Okay. And her love for Elvis Presley.
Starting point is 00:57:32 When you went to her house back in the 80s, there were at least half a dozen or to a dozen. and figurines, you know, little cantings, like these race cars right here. And music. She always had Elvis playing. Or, you know. And so what? I got to go see him in person.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Right. So what was the, um. That they wouldn't let me touch him. But you tried. I would have if they'd let me. Was it just Elvis? Did you like any other musicians or? Yeah, I like some of the country singers.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Who? Anybody. Hank Williams. Yeah, the original Hank? Yeah. So when did you first, what do you remember about Elvis? Was you, all the kids, was this when you were in school that you became an Elvis fan or after that? After I was married.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Oh, after you was married? You became an Elvis fan. What did Ralph think about that? Him? He's like, whatever. Well, I don't think I got to go see him until after Ralph passed away. Right. But you were a huge Elvis fan.
Starting point is 00:58:33 And did you play his music all the time? I used to. And then after Ralph passed away, you said you went to see Elvis, where would you go see him at? To Charlotte Coliseum. Yeah. How close did you get? Well, I would, I was sitting close, but they wouldn't let me get close enough to touch him. Who's they?
Starting point is 00:58:52 Whoever I was with, I didn't remember down. Oh, the people you're with were stopping you from going. Either that or the people that were. The guards? The people that worked there. She tested them both of them. Was there other people trying to get a bare touch him? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Oh, yeah. I've seen those videos of all those crazy ladies at there trying to get to Elvis. Yeah, she was one of them. Do you remember taking her to Graceland? Remember we went to Graceland that did the Elvis car? Do you remember that? And you went with us, and now I know why. She was a huge Elvis fan.
Starting point is 00:59:21 That's right. That was a sharp-looking car, by the way. He was my hero. Yeah. Were you sad when Elvis passed away? Oh, yeah. That was a dark day. It was.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Good Lord. Surprising. It was. What did you guys, when you used to, as a kid, go over to Mamma's house. What was that like? Everybody has imagery of visiting your grandparents. The great thing about Mamaw was that dad was very intimidating.
Starting point is 00:59:48 Dad could be intimidating in a fatherly way, and that's probably more, that's very tough as a kid. You know, he'd beat and bang guys out on the racetrack, but then they'd go their way, and he'd go his way, and they wouldn't see each other for a week. Well, I had that every day. But Mamma, when Mamma was around, or if we were at her house or she was at our house, she mellowed him.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Oh. She, you knew that the intimidator wasn't going to come out, right? Do you remember coming to stay with me, son? Oh, yeah. I was good. When your dad would be gone racing and all. I started racing. Well, it was right around.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I just got my driver's license, and I started racing. racing street stocks and so I'd run Concord and she lived in Canapolis was just a few minutes away. Dad would go race. But this is before then. Yes, I do remember that. But I would then when I got my driver's license I would come over there and stay and then I'd take off. And I'd go down to Concord, Canapalps and Cruz with my buddies. And she'd be mad when I come in late.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Oh, so you had a curfew at Mammal's house. Three o'clock in the morning. There was no curfew, but it was just coming in that late. That's a pretty darn good thing. o'clock in the morning. Yeah. Yeah. I'm mad at you too.
Starting point is 01:01:06 No, that's not the curfew. I get it, but three o'clock in the morning is late. Yeah. Be mad. But, you know, I didn't think it's a big deal. Well, no, at the time you didn't, but I was worried to death. I know, but I was out there spinning my wheels, man. Having fun.
Starting point is 01:01:23 And then we got, I got to streetstock racing, and I'd come over there and spend a night, and we'd do the same thing. I'd come over there and unhooked a trailer with the race car and then take off to uptown. We had the mall and a bunch of other things, you know, to cruise around and do and just trying to meet girls, you know. You understand. It's not like he was on a basketball team and he could just find his wife, you know, about being awesome on a basketball court. It ain't that easy for everybody.
Starting point is 01:01:49 Yeah. So do you – I'll ask you this. Do you remember the first time that – it might not have been the first time, but the – I guess mom and you were at your house. Y'all were on the front porch. And dad drove up with Teresa. They had a little battle royale. They had a little wrestling match on the front porch. Oh, wait a second.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I've got to hear that. I'm really not remember that. Kathy says somebody got smacked. Who got smacked? What? Teresa got smacked. I'd heard that story, but I'd heard that story, but I'd heard rumors in little bits and pieces.
Starting point is 01:02:23 Wait, wait, wait. Who? Who's doing the smacking? In the kitchen. All right, so they got inside the house. Oh, my Lord. Who did the spacking? Mama just, mama snapped.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Martha, dig deep. You've got to remember something about this. Come on, we're begging. I'm hanging on this one. I really don't remember all that. Or maybe I'm just trying to forget it off. I don't blame you on that. But still, we got questions.
Starting point is 01:02:50 Matthew's version of events is that mom brought the kids to the house to do a switch with dad. Right. And dad brought Teresa thinking, hey, man, that's no big deal. and there was a physical application. Wow! This is so good. Hope Brenda won, didn't she? Who won, Kathy?
Starting point is 01:03:12 Brenda won. I don't doubt that. That's what I figured. Wow. Yeah, I'd heard about that a long time ago, but I wasn't sure if it was, I didn't know. I guess I had it wrong, you know. I thought they went and gotten wrestling and pulling hair on the front porch.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Well, that was the second time they switched the kids off. All right. Well, that'll make a headline this week. Do you go down to dad's statue ever in Canapolis? Yeah. It must feel pretty good to have a statue sitting down there because it's really well done, don't you think? That man did a wonderful job.
Starting point is 01:03:48 It looks just like you. Right. There's a statue in downtown Canapolis, a memorial to dad. I love it. Obviously, it's not as close to my house that is as yours, and I was just wondering if you go down there often, because I would. I think if I lived a few blocks from it,
Starting point is 01:04:02 I'd be over there. Yeah, I ride by about every week. Just on purpose. Yeah. Yeah, take a look at it. We had somebody tweet us a picture of them in Mama July 2010. She drove by and saw us there, so she stopped. She's such a sweet lady.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Yeah. You have people coming over all the time. Yeah. Saying, hey, you're very approachable. Do you still watch racing today? You do, don't you? Well, yeah, but it ain't exciting because there ain't no one to hurt out there. Well, I'm in the booth.
Starting point is 01:04:29 You don't listen to me again? Yeah, but yeah, I listen to you. But I don't, there ain't nobody on the racetrack to walk. Jeffries out there running a little bit. No. Not enough. He ain't running enough for you. Do you think Dale does a good job broadcasting?
Starting point is 01:04:43 He does a good job. Oh, thanks. Yeah, I enjoy it. You do a good job. Thank you. I'm going to do it for a bit, I think. You got a favorite driver these days? Martin True X and Kevin Hart.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Martin True X? Oh, really? Kevin Hart. Kevin Hart. Yeah. See, Kevin took Dale's right. Yeah. Katta says some bad things about me, Memo.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Has it? Yeah. Said I stunned the growth of the sport. Really? Yeah, you did. I didn't know that. Yeah. It was mean to me.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Changes your things. A couple years back. I didn't know that. Yeah. But he did take over his dad's right. He won this weekend. So you'll be happy to know. Yeah, I watched him.
Starting point is 01:05:19 You did? Yeah. That's a good race. You did watch the race yesterday. Yeah, I did. Yeah. It's a good one. I was pretty excited about it.
Starting point is 01:05:26 It's a great finish. You like True X. I do. I do, too. He's pretty good. He's a good friend. him I just think he's a really nice person yeah he is there's a lot of nice guys out there though in fact he lives across the lake up at Lake Norman yep from my brother
Starting point is 01:05:42 Bill Bill passed away but my his wife still lives there and he she lives across the lake from Martin I did not know that neighbors you get to you go over there and visit her no you know she's not normally because she's a little bit far away yeah that is that is a he is a he is a on down the lake. Do you, okay, do you have an opinion of seeing Austin Dillon out there in that number three car? Does that, does that invoke any type of opinion one way or another? Well, it's Richard's a grandson, so I can't say too much about that. Yeah, that's the way I felt about it. I felt, I maybe, I probably wouldn't have liked it if it was some random guy, but it's his son.
Starting point is 01:06:22 It's his grandson. It's in the family. Yeah. And I always thought, too, like, So Richard, didn't Richard used to drive a number three? It was Richard's number before it was dad. Yeah. I like the way you think them all. Plus, you know, these kids, they start playing sports when they're little kids, and they got numbers on their shirts, and they make a connection to that number. Yep.
Starting point is 01:06:43 And they want to, how can you deny them the ability to continue using that number that they have a personal connection to? And I think Austin was number three throughout his whole childhood. Even more of that when he played childhood sports and so forth. How do you like being a grandparent to all these grandkids that you got? I enjoy it. I finally gave you one after all those years. I know you don't, but I don't get to see her. Well, I'm hoping she'll come over here today.
Starting point is 01:07:15 She sure is a pretty little girl. Amy's supposed to be running her over here for you take off. Yeah, she'd give me a hard time for a long time about giving her her. giving her some grandkids. But, you know, if we don't give her grandkids, then the family unions aren't going to be as robust and enjoyable. And now with all those grandkids running around there, I was always wondering, you know, when dad passed away and then Randy,
Starting point is 01:07:43 you know, would the family stay connected? But it's a real concerted effort by all the ants and, you know, my generation for all of us to, to stay together and we have, we do Thanksgiving, we do Christmas every year at Mamaw's house. Yeah. And we used to have a summer sort of thing at Kathy's when she lived on the lake, but that's went away.
Starting point is 01:08:10 And me and Amy've actually talked about hosting a bit of a family. Thumbs up for Matt Kathy. Yeah, a bit of a family deal over at our house or something that may do in our lake house. That'd be fun. But, yeah, I love the Earnhardt reunions, don't you? too. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:25 Because everybody comes and sees you. Yeah. It's right. I bet you see me more than you see some of them people. Well, that's true too. See? Well, see them? Mama give them a hard time.
Starting point is 01:08:36 Where's that? Where's their hard time at, Mike? No, yeah. Carrie, you got a lot of explaining to do, bud. Come on, Carrie. I know you got the daughter out there doing all kinds of rodeo showing. Absolutely. You know, you can swing by a man-law's house.
Starting point is 01:08:50 The heat's off. Yeah, Carrie, you've got some spawning to do. Come on now. All right, that's what we're going to do. Dirty Mo Media is going to be able to pull the family together for a big reunion. And the older he gets, the more he acts, looks like Dale. He looks just like Dale. He does.
Starting point is 01:09:06 You know, I was sitting here just enjoying y'all talking, and, you know, a grandson and a grandma. My grandma is my favorite person in my entire life. And I give it anything to have one more time. And the memories are so incredible. What's your favorite? I've got to ask you this. What's your favorite, like, that warm memory of being over, grandma's house, you know, being over your mom's house.
Starting point is 01:09:28 There's a lot of different things that I always enjoyed about going over there. My mom always had these awesome little models of Ralph's cars. I love that when I was a little boy. Yes, she does. And the pictures of dad or Ralph that they're always fun to see. Even other family members, her sisters or brothers, there's a lot of family pictures in there. Just trying to learn who everybody is and learn about your family. She had a lot
Starting point is 01:09:55 I had a lot of siblings Actually they I came from a family of 12 children Wow good So that says a lot of pictures on the mom as well Right yeah Mother and daddy had seven girls And they finally got one boy
Starting point is 01:10:11 Now it explains why she was wondering Why you were taking so long I mean this is what she This is her normal Yeah And then I come along And I bet my daddy said Oh no not another girl
Starting point is 01:10:23 because they'd already had seven girls. They were hell bent on having a son, right? Well, they had two sets of twins, a set of girls and a set of boys. My goodness. So I was the youngest girl. So there's twin jeans in my family. Think about that. What you got going on now?
Starting point is 01:10:42 Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. Boy, wouldn't that be payback? That would be awesome. Yeah, Amy, we ain't got, we're going to have two. I'm three.
Starting point is 01:10:55 Wait, are you trying to say something? Wait, well, you're not making an announcement or anything right now, are you? I would never make an announcement. On the podcast. Some things are reserved for Twitter, right? I mean, some things you've got to hold. It's so important that you'd have to put it on Twitter, not a podcast. He better tell me first.
Starting point is 01:11:11 You better be right. Yeah, he better tell you first. Do you recall when he made the decision to retire? Me? From racing? Yeah, yeah, Del Jr. Did you have, you know, what did you think about it? when he decided to hang it up.
Starting point is 01:11:24 I mean, he had a lot of head stuff. I thought it was about time. There you go. Hey, that's right. You read books, Ma'amaw? Yeah. Did you read my book? I did.
Starting point is 01:11:32 What did you think? You did a good job. My brother barred it. I let my brother barred. He certainly needs to give it back, right? Well, he will. Yeah. Yeah, he will.
Starting point is 01:11:43 So what do you feel you time with these days? What's Mamma all doing? Not a whole lot. You going to church? I am going to church. You got your friends? You and your friends? do stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:54 Mamma taught me how to play Chinese checkers. Oh, I remember that game. Isn't that the one with the balls on the table? Or the marbles. Marbles. Isn't that Chinese checkers? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:07 I still got one in my closet. I know. So when I was a little boy, when I'd come over there and stay with her, she had friends that would come over and she's like, all right, my friends are coming over, we're going to play. It is, Chinese checkers. It's on this big round board. there's like about nine balls for each player and they're all each a different color and you
Starting point is 01:12:28 you hop them like you jump like checkers and you try to move your balls from one side of the table to the other it's very fun I even play I even bought a down I downloaded an app on my iPad to play it and that's only because you introduced me to it and I've not played that game with anyone else in my life I play it on my iPad and I played it with you when I was a little boy That's a memory of going to memo. I'll play the Chinese checkers. I still got one in my closet. Yeah, probably the one we played.
Starting point is 01:12:57 Probably. Yeah. What was your favorite memory watching Dale Jr. Race of all those races and all of his accomplishments? What was your favorite? When he won. Yeah. Anytime we won.
Starting point is 01:13:11 Yeah. Daytona 500. You remember when in me went into Daytona 500 in 2004 in 2014? Yeah. Went into Bush Series championships when Dad was around. Every time you raced, I watch you. Yeah. Now she's got that Kevin Harvey.
Starting point is 01:13:24 You've got to watch Kevin Harvick. Now she'll have somebody in pole for in Darling. She's throwing shoes at the TV because Kevin Harvick gets wrecked or something like that. It's Kevin Harvick. Do you have any regrets? Not really. Yeah. Anything you'd do different?
Starting point is 01:13:39 No, not really. That must be good. Yeah, right. Right. Well, there's a lot of things I'd like to change because, you know, it would bring back people that I've lost. Yeah. But, you know, I see you got a picture just like I got.
Starting point is 01:13:56 The Ralph where he was sitting in his car? Yeah. Yep. That was one of his, I guess, his first races. That's what he used to wear a race in. I know. It's crazy. It looks like a bomber pilot.
Starting point is 01:14:06 That's really kind of what they would use in a lot of those cars. A pair overalls. Coveralls. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, but the helmet and so forth, they did use a lot of aviation. Is that right? equipment because that was really the only thing.
Starting point is 01:14:21 There wasn't a racing helmets. There wasn't a racing helmet provider. And so you kind of used whatever you could find. And a lot of guys did use some aviation helmets and so forth. I got a question. Football helmets. You're talking about change. What do you think about all the change in Canapolis going on right now?
Starting point is 01:14:38 They're doing a whole revitalization. And I mean, you've been in Canapolis for a long time. What do you think about all that? Well, as long as they don't move the statue, I'll be all right. There you heard it. Don't move a statue. Or he's got one coming if you touch that statue.
Starting point is 01:14:55 Oh, man, I'll be down there. I'll be down there. I'll lay on the ground in front of it. That's right. Somebody made a statement about they should put it up at DEI or something like that. I said, no. It belongs in can apples. That's right.
Starting point is 01:15:10 The hell nobody can get into DEI. I ain't been over to DEI since 2008. I ain't going over there to see it. leave where it's at. What about the intimidators? They're changing the team name of the baseball team in Canapolis. That disappointed me. What they changed it to?
Starting point is 01:15:27 I don't know. They ain't decided yet. We were hoping you tell us. They ain't going to be the intimidators no more, man. Well, I didn't know that. Well, Teresa owns the rights to the name, and they're having a little difficulty working out the royalties and so forth, and that makes it challenging for the new owners of the team.
Starting point is 01:15:42 So I don't blame them for wanting to change, because they can't make any money off of the name that they own that they have, right? and so it's a bit of a that's really the reason they're not changing it out of any other you know out of a spite or anything or just do change it they probably love to stay the intimidators
Starting point is 01:15:59 if they could have ownership of the name but hopefully they come up with something that just you know is a tip of the cap to the history of the town and I'm sure they're going over that they probably already know what they're going to call it. They probably do. Dang don't move that statue I'm nervous don't move the statue
Starting point is 01:16:15 don't move it they're keeping that whole strip With the bank and the jail and the old jail. They ain't going to move it. It's heavy. We ain't going to let. You just can't up and move that statue. It's heavy. No, they're not going to move it.
Starting point is 01:16:28 Ma'am, all, I appreciate you coming. Well, I enjoyed it. Well, we enjoy talking to you and seeing you. Thank you, Kathy, for coming over here and helping fill in some of the gaps. And, man, I hope you enjoy the show. Thank you all for having me. All right. Yes, ma'am.
Starting point is 01:16:42 We appreciate it. I enjoyed it. All right, guys, we've got something new for you. On the Dale Jr. download, let's take a listen. Hey, my name's Kira, and I'm 18 years old. I met Dale Jr. in April of this year when him and Chase Elliott randomly, or I thought randomly, pulled up at the place I work looking for a car wash. Hello. Welcome to Out of Bell.
Starting point is 01:17:16 How are you going, are you, Kira? Yes, sir. Would you like try and manage your special today? Uh, maybe. So, hey, Kira. Hi, how are you today? I'm doing great. It's good to see you again. Why don't you tell everybody listening, How we met. Back in April, I was working at the car wash, Auto Bell, and I was just doing my job,
Starting point is 01:17:39 and then Dale pulled up and his friend Chase Elliott. How you doing? I'm Dale. Hey, oh my God. I knew they were race car drivers, but I was trying not to, you know, fan girl out or anything. Little did I know what they were really there for. Yeah. Me and Chase are going to do your job today so you can have some time off.
Starting point is 01:17:59 All right, Mountain Dew is all about the doer. Now, your day off might pay for that passion, but it keeps you from it, too. That's why I do is giving people DTO. It's due time off. A way for you to go about doing your thing without worrying about your day job. And so what exactly did you do with your time off? So I'm into martial arts. They gave me the day to go, well, I actually met Ryan, who,
Starting point is 01:18:31 He's like the headmaster of Krav Maga. It's like a special forces kind of training. And we just, I just got to work with him and like train and just take the day to like expand my skill sets and like actually like fight in the ring and learn like different wrist locks and like even like gun holds and stuff how to get out of that and just a lot of more exercises and stuff.
Starting point is 01:18:58 All the opportunities, all the opportunities that gave me and stuff and it just made me feel really special because never met the girls like this like this like this And so I just graduated high school I work like five days a week at Auto Bell Then I also babysit so I'm working a lot of my time You guys coming to like give me the day off too and My employer too he made me like to because he's the one that really got me into this and like you know he believed in my passion and thought I deserved the time time off to go do what I love.
Starting point is 01:19:33 Do time off, it's also called DTO, and it's a campaign ran by Mountain Dew, and they really just believe in empowering people to go out and do what they love and just live life, and they want to give people time off to go do what they love and pursue their passions without the barriers of work and other responsibilities, and just, you know, because time's the biggest barrier, and they just give you that time to go do what you love. The interaction with you, with Chase, and that whole program we did over the car wash that day was a lot of fun. And it sort of gave us an idea. Inspired us to try to give people that same opportunity to be able to pursue their passion. Now Dale Jr. wants to go hand out more DTO. Dale had the idea of looking at Junior Motorsports, and I think it's the perfect opportunity for Dale to surprise and reward his own employees and colleagues. Thanks to Mountain Dew, I'm going to give some employees DTO, which is due time off. And to make it even more special, Mountain Dew is going to give them $1,000 cash.
Starting point is 01:20:51 Check out more on DTO. Head over to Mountain Dew.com. I was excited to meet her, and she's bubbly and fun, right? And it was a really cool environment. The car wash was kind of a great place for us to go sort of piddle around and do somebody else's job. You know, it's a car wash. It's got cars around. We're a car guys.
Starting point is 01:21:12 So it wasn't a really unfamiliar place to be. You know, imagine feeling in, giving due time off for a massage therapist or something like that. That would be very awkward. You know, I was thankful that it was a car wash and she just got a really great disposition. Smile on her face all the time. Seems to be like a great person. I was thinking like, man, her coworkers must really appreciate her. obviously they did because they put her in that position.
Starting point is 01:21:39 They thought she was deserving of some due time off. All right, we are live. Oh, we're live. Boom. All right. Hey, we got some questions for Ask Junior presented by Nationwide. Let's go. We do.
Starting point is 01:21:53 First up, we got a lot of questions about the race this weekend, but here's an interesting one from Patty James. Have you ever had a weekend like Alex Bowman did this past weekend? And how were you able to handle it? You know, I don't know if I've ever tore up both cars in the same weekend like that, but I remember I kept going back to Alan Kowicki. He did that at Dover when he won the championship during his championship years in the early 90s. He wrecked both cars at Dover.
Starting point is 01:22:17 I don't even know what they did to get a third car ready. I don't know if they had to borrow one or repair the first car or what. But I think during that process, everybody thought for sure that that was the end of Alan Kowicki in the championship battle. But he came back. He got a reasonable finish that day or that weekend. ended up working his way back into the points race and by Atlanta he was sitting there with an opportunity to win it and when the others had trouble around him,
Starting point is 01:22:42 he ends up winning the championship. And it was a miraculous championship for a team like his. And I think that you have to look at Dover at that particular race as one of the most difficult parts of the season for them where they faced that adversity head on and made it work. And I kept thinking about that for Alex and Greg Ives. I'm thinking about that moment and how the integrity that Alan Quickey had and the unity and bond that his team had, the leadership that he had at his business
Starting point is 01:23:14 is what got them through that weekend. And watching Greg walking around in the garage reminded me of that. You know, Greg was orchestrating the team preparing that third car that they borrowed from Jimmy Johnson. Greg was in there working. and other guys as well within that team were getting things organized and helping. JR Motorsports employees were there helping from what I was told. So it was all hands on deck, and they got through the weekend, got a reasonable finish out of it, and something I think that they could be pretty proud of.
Starting point is 01:23:52 When that race started, Alex was not good. He was not moving forward, didn't have speed, and they figured out a way to get a top 20 finish out of that. I'm sure they probably wanted more. Sure they thought they could get more at some points in the race. But still, you know, that's like, I text Greg. I said, these are the weekends you love. I said, you don't want them all the time.
Starting point is 01:24:14 Yeah. But these are the weekends where you get to do a little bit of the work that you typically don't do, that you miss doing. Like him being in there working, wrenching on the car himself, you know, you don't get that opportunity. The crew chief can't do that. He has other responsibilities. He does not go in there and work on the car. They have mechanics to do that. But in that moment, it kind of takes you back to your roots when you worked on the car.
Starting point is 01:24:36 When everybody did whatever it took to get to the racetrack, everybody pitched in. So it was hot, miserable, and they wouldn't want to do that all the time. But I know those guys figured out a way to come out of there with a great story to tell. You know, it wasn't a miserable experience that they'll never want to relive. I was thinking about Bowman feeling bad for him in the moment. But he ran into somebody on pit road, didn't he? Was it like Joe? Oh, during the race, yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:04 And now when you're driving somebody else's car and you had that contact, that has to be a miserable feeling. I don't think he thinks about it like that. Maybe not, but I'm just saying that's what I thought about. I'm like, God, now he's driving somebody else's car. And if you wreck it, man, that's got to be some sort of. You know, the backups typically aren't as respected, for lack of a better word. And it's in that trailer, and it's not on the racetrack as a primary for a reason.
Starting point is 01:25:26 You know, you don't bring your. second best primary is a backup. The backups tend to stay in the haulers sometimes for multiple events. And it's just a car that, yeah, I'm okay if it's in that hauler for a few weeks. All our good stuff's out here on the shop floor getting worked on, getting tuned up for the next race. We know where every car is going for the next several weeks. That backup's just kind of traveling up down the road, and it's just a safety net. And so, and it's also Rick Hendrick's car. You know, it's not Jimmy's car. It's not Kevin Meandron's car. It's Rick's car. And so if I was to borrow a car from another team, I'd say, hey, thanks, you know, Chad Canals or whoever it is,
Starting point is 01:26:03 but I know really where that car came from and who's responsible for it. So I think that the comfort level, I guess, of using that car was probably pretty high for Alex and those guys. Hunting and fishing in God's country is weighing in on YouTube, and he wants to know, hey, Dale, what is the funniest thing you have ever seen happen out of race? Well, that's pretty broad. I don't know, man. Well, 1998. It was a funny day. Boy, this funny thing happened. An inchworm on my car. I don't know, Mike.
Starting point is 01:26:32 You might have to help me on that one because you went to a lot of races back then for the first half of my career pretty much. Man. That's good question. Yeah. I need a little time to think on that. Yeah, let's think about it. Let's come back to it.
Starting point is 01:26:44 Answer the next one. I'm going to keep thinking on that one. All right. We're going to go back to New Hampshire. We're getting a lot of questions about that. What are your thoughts on crew chiefs and spotters encouraging drivers to play rough if necessary in order to gain position on track? I heard a lot about that.
Starting point is 01:26:57 weekend. Yeah, so we had some spotters and crew chiefs during the Xfinity race, encouraging their drivers to be more aggressive and stop, you know, use the bumper if you need to when you're in certain situations. You know, I don't love to hear it. I never love to hear that as a driver. You know, listen, not everybody's going to agree with this opinion. That's totally fine.
Starting point is 01:27:19 I think that whatever you are, whatever your aggressiveness is, is going to be your decision. And it's whatever you're comfortable with doing. And you're either an aggressive personality or you're not. Some guys race their entire career without being aggressive. And do it great. Some guys are very aggressive. And do it great. It really comes down to who you are inside as an individual.
Starting point is 01:27:44 And I don't believe that you can implore or change or alter that part of somebody's personality with a few words on the radio. Now, you want to encourage your guy to like, look, man, Don't waste so much time trying to get around this guy. If you've got to lean on him a little bit, it's New Hampshire. We race here like we race at the other short tracks. It's okay. That kind of thing I think is fair.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Like Harrison Burton, early in the race. He's running tidy, tight lines around the bottom of the racetrack, not really impeding the guy on the outside at all. I would rather him go up there and impede that guy, try to take that lane, try to take that position, and force that guy to have to give it to him. TJ would say on the radio to me, take what you need. That was encouragement to do whatever it takes to take the position.
Starting point is 01:28:32 You have the ability and you're in position to take the groove. Run where you won't. But to talk to a driver and say, I need you to use the bumper or move this guy out of the way. I don't like that. It comes down to the driver's decision to do it if he wants to or not. If he doesn't feel like he wants to do it, if he doesn't want to race that way, that's his choice. and I'm not saying anybody, I'm not calling names or I can't even think back in my mind
Starting point is 01:29:02 and listening if anybody even said that, like hit this guy, go run over this guy, move this guy. I've heard that in the past. I've heard it, especially at the lower ranks when you got, you know, you got inexperienced spotters or crew chiefs or guys that are feisty and aggressive by nature. They tend to hop on the radio and fire into the driver and be like, don't take any crap go out there and hit him you know right over him in this corner you know go take this guy out even um you know i don't i don't encourage that i don't like that so i think you got to leave it up to the driver encourage him to to be aggressive in how he drives and passes but you can't you can't
Starting point is 01:29:44 tell a guy that he needs to use the bumper or you can't you know maybe those are conversations you have outside of the car like you get together during the week and you sit down and say hey man you know, do you move him out of the way in the next situation and try to, you know, pick that driver's brain. But while we're out there and he's the battle, man, Cendrick, I think, was the radio communication that we were listening to. And he's a young guy, and he was wild as an, you know, alleycat when he first started. And he's kind of calmed down and starting to, you know, put together pretty clean races and pretty solid races. And I just hate to see him sort of get frayed again and get, get, you know, sort of. off track because he's got this sort of path to trying to improve himself as a race car driver,
Starting point is 01:30:29 and I'd hate to see that change. All right, one more question real quick. Dustin B. Hey, Dale, what trophy is behind you next to the Elvis statue? Sportsman Trophy, Greenville. Yeah, Ralph Earnhardt, Greenville Pickens, Sportsman Race. I don't even know what went. What year is it?
Starting point is 01:30:46 58 or I don't know. 57 it looks like. Yeah, 1957. I got a handful of Ralph's trophies. Some of them, I don't know if we got to cut maybe one or two more. in here but mamma had this mamma who's on the show
Starting point is 01:31:00 had this front room in her house that had a lot of shelving and a ton of trophies on it and she since remodeled her house and took all that down and a lot of different people in the family got different trophies and so forth and I got a nice little collection of Ralph's
Starting point is 01:31:17 stuff yeah his uh I think his 1956 championship sportsman trophies over at DEI and there's two other trophies over there at DEI that I'd love to get my hands on, but I don't know if I ever will. All right, guys, that is it for Ash. Well, we had one, we had the one.
Starting point is 01:31:33 Do we come back to the funniest thing that we ever had? Well, I was trying to think, I was trying to zero into maybe a Tony Stewart media story. I always got tickled over his dealings with the media, but I can't think of something that just jumps out. Any pranks? Morgan Shepard's falling off with the roller skates. Now, that's funny.
Starting point is 01:31:54 Even though I love him so much. I didn't see that. It's a great video on YouTube. Yeah, I mean, I've seen it on YouTube. That's the only place I saw. Man, how are we not thinking of some funny stuff? I mean, we've been doing this a million years. I know.
Starting point is 01:32:07 It's such a broad question. I know. All right. Well, hopefully we'll come up with something. Maybe we'll come back next week and give us a week to think on it. We're thinking on that one. Thanks for tuning in to Dirty MoMedia's YouTube channel. Appreciate you guys.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Thanks nationwide for sponsoring this segment of the show, the Ask Junior segment. All right, everybody. It's time for the Valvaline DIY question of the week. Dale Jr., over the weekend, maybe you posted a little bit about a new car. You've added to the collection. Is that right? That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:41 So I found me and Ray Everham are always sort of sending pictures back and forth of these old race cars that are sort of laying around in different parts of the country. And there was my brother sent me a text about a guy who had an old Budmore Mercury. All right. And from 1980. All right. So this car raced against the number two Monte Carlo that we have. And it tracks like Michigan.
Starting point is 01:33:10 This Mercury ran at Daytona in the Daytona 500 in 1980 and ran second. It won the Daytona July race. And it's sitting in this place down in South Carolina, I believe, for just very small amount of money, hardly anything. And I text the picture to Ray, Evernham and I said, Ray, look at this car. I don't know if I want to buy it, but I just sent it to him because he's buying off all kinds of old race cars and restoring them.
Starting point is 01:33:38 And he said, that's pretty cheap, let's get it. Go ahead and buy it. We'll be partners on it. And so I bought it. We went and got it. I have it over at the house, and I sent out a post of a picture on social media of this car, and it's the Budmore, number 15, driven by Bobby Allison. It ran about six races that year, ended up crashing at Atlanta on the second to last
Starting point is 01:33:58 race of the year, flat side of the right side. The damage is still there on the car. The chassis is original. Front clips clean, not bent. The door's roof, all of the, from the firewall, front firewall back is all original. Now, the front end is the front fenders and hood and the nose is not original. It's been, it's somebody had tried to start a restoration project on it and then quit very early in that process. And so we have it for.
Starting point is 01:34:29 for literally nothing and it's going to need a lot of work if we do anything with it but it's out of the woods and it's in my shed and I'll keep it until we decide what we're going to do with it but it won't go into my graveyard it's too that's too nice of a car car is too much history yeah and so uh well I'll just keep it and also we have the uh the number eight nova there's a there's some progress on that car there's also some progress on the Monte Carlo I'll touch on that as well the Nova we put a brand new fire in the front, brand new rear firewall, a brand new rear clip on the back. All of that stuff was not original.
Starting point is 01:35:08 New wheel tubs in the back. I mean, this thing is going to look brand new when it's finished. But, I mean, we're keeping a lobby original roll cage center section to the car, the roof and everything that's original as well, the doors and so forth. So this car, it's going to be, it's going to look exactly like it looked when it came the racetrack back in 1985. And so that's going along really well. The guys are doing some great work on it.
Starting point is 01:35:36 And the man that's doing the work, Robert G. is the man that built the car originally or helped build the car originally. So it's amazing 30 or whatever years later that it's the same man still working on it. That is cool. The number two, Monte Carlo, we were going through the drive train on that car so to make sure it's safe if I were to take it to a racetrack or drive it around anywhere, that it has brakes, that it'll start, that it'll run. and so we went through the hubs on that car,
Starting point is 01:36:03 and then we'll go through the motor and the transmission, drive, shaft, rear, and housing and all that, make sure everything's good there. And that car, you might start seeing it show up at some of, I'd love to take these cars to Darlington for the throwback weekend, maybe even take them to Charlotte for those races and let people just kind of enjoy them. Well, that's awesome.
Starting point is 01:36:20 Good updates on the DIY projects you got going, man, I mean, car restoration projects all over the place for you. I never even had this in my mind, a plan to do this kind of stuff. So it's, it's, it's, I'm trying not to get like Ray Evernham. He's got multiple projects going on right now. I went over to his shop and I climbed, I climbed in all those old cars just to see what the seats are like and how the, you know, what the vantage point is. It's amazing. So pretty, pretty awesome to see what he's doing to keep the history alive in this sport.
Starting point is 01:36:49 All right. Well, from high mileage rides that need that thick anti-wire film, the newer engines that have carbon buildup, head over to valvoline.com slash dale to find the product. for your engine. Thanks to Valvaline for this segment. It's been awesome, and we've enjoyed getting everybody updated on the car restoration project. White flag.
Starting point is 01:37:07 White flag. Keep coming, bud. White flag, right there. White flag. All right, white flag. Follow Dirty Moe media on all social media platforms, especially our YouTube page. We're going to have some stuff coming up on our YouTube page
Starting point is 01:37:18 from Dirty Moe media. You know, this Darlington thing is coming up soon. So Matthew's going to be shadowing Dale all weekend for that, and then we're going to make something awesome out of. it. It's only going to be on our YouTube page. So subscribe to that. Had a lot of growth there. Our television show, listen, I don't want to get into specifics, but we had a good week last week in the ratings category. Let's just say that. I think that with NBC takeover, I mean, we're having a good week. I like the TV show. Brian
Starting point is 01:37:48 doing a great job on that. It's at 5 p.m. Eastern on Tuesdays on NBC Sports Network. That's 5 p.m. Eastern Time 2 p.m. Pacific. Apple podcast rating and reviews this week. Hunting Rabbits gave us five-star rating Hunting rabbits. Yeah, hunting rabbits. We've had a couple of hunting names. In God's country, fishing in God's country, and hunting rabbits. There you go.
Starting point is 01:38:06 A lot of hunting out there. I absolutely love this show. It has gotten me going back to my local dirt tracks. Sweet. Yeah, I thought you'd like that. My tracks, my roots would like that. Mainly because I don't want this sport to go anywhere. The download has revitalized my love for racing.
Starting point is 01:38:21 And Dale, when you're ready, come race at Springfield Mile sometime. Springfield Mile. Are you familiar with Springfield Mile? Springfield Mile. Is there? Are you talking about like Illinois? Is it Illinois or Missouri? Missouri, maybe?
Starting point is 01:38:33 I don't know. Sounds really familiar. There you go. Zambetic gave us a five star and wrote really loved Dale Jr. download and DBC. Would love for Dirty Moe to start several more podcasts with energetic, passionate folks like yourselves. That's right. We're energetic and passionate.
Starting point is 01:38:47 We're energetic and passionate. That's what we are. Y'all, y'all know that? You're not passionate. Some of you are idiots. I'm kidding. You're not passionate. This is his form of an apology for saying that.
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Starting point is 01:39:17 By the way, door bumper clear is decent, but hail to the Dell Jr. down. Yes. Doorbopper clear. It's awesome. Doorbopper clear this past week had a lot of folks have. happy. They love Tim Fieda being on the show. And he's on again this week, too. And he's on again. It's got to really, you know, it's got to rub Brett Griffin wrong. All the spotters, everybody
Starting point is 01:39:38 up in the hallway, there was so much chatter. That was the best episode ever. I think it was loving it. Yeah, it would serve Brett well to be a little more honest, outspoken opinion. Maybe. Maybe show up every once in a while. He needs to open up a little bit. If we could just get Brett to be opinionated, it would be all right. By the way, on that note, I forgot to mention this, They're going to do a live show. DBC, Brett and T.J are doing a live show this weekend at Pocono at 1 p.m. in the fan zone, wherever the fan zone is. Nice. Yeah, right before the race starts, you're going to have both of those guys on stage.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Yeah, on Sunday. I was begging Mike to send me up. The race is at 3 o'clock. TJ is going to be so freaking nervous. You think? To not be at the daughter stand three, four hours early. Right, right. You know his batteries will have to be charged and all that stuff.
Starting point is 01:40:23 He's going to have an assistant that weekend to handle all that. He probably already has one. You know, T.J. But that'll be fun. We'll see how the DBC does on a live appearance setting. We may not want Brett Griffin and T.J. Out of appearance. Where you cannot edit what they say.
Starting point is 01:40:41 But that's it, Dale. Odd history. All right, we got some great odd history going into Pocono. Back in 1981, a caution was brought out on lap 108 when a baby deer ran across the track on the Long Pond Strait. Straightaway, track workers were able to capture the deer, though, Mike. They released it into the woods. Very cool.
Starting point is 01:41:02 There's a lot of wild. Oh, by capture, you don't mean shoot it? No, there's a lot of wildlife out there. I'm a little nervous about that. In the years since, track activity has been interrupted by many animals, including a rabbit in 1989. A chicken? Ninety-191.
Starting point is 01:41:17 That had to have gotten loose from a fan in the infield. A fox in 2017 and a drunken spectators, 93 and 2003. One of it's the same guy. Right. The 10-year anniversary of the first time, 1993 and 2003. Drunk fans have ran across Pocono during the cup races three times in the track's history. In 1980, an unknown fan ran to the edge of the track on the final lap of the exit of turn one
Starting point is 01:41:46 to give the drivers his approval of their, you know. Oh, wow. Kind of like that fan did with Matt Kenseth at Watkins Glen during the red flag. Y'all remember that? Hopped the fence, went over. The cars are racing on the final lap off of term one. They aren't stopped here. That would be a difference.
Starting point is 01:42:02 And the fan ran out to the edge and was like, good job! It's a new level of done. Ks them ass. Seabas. And we're the idiots. In 1993, 25-year-old computer programmer, Chad Blaine Colt ran across the track on the Long Pond straightaway. He did it right in front of Davey Allison and Kyle Petty.
Starting point is 01:42:24 He'd been taking caffeine pills and drinking cores for 12 hours. hours. Oh, my gosh. He was so disoriented that he got lost in the forest and lit a single fire, single file. A signal fire. He lit a fire. So people could come and rescuing. He was charged with arson, risking.
Starting point is 01:42:44 I don't know what was just beer. He was charged with risking catastrophe, criminal mischief, trespassing, disorderly conduct, and public drunkiness. I can't even get all this out. All of which is expected. Wait, some of these are kind of the same thing. So it's like getting double charged. That's the way the criminal justice isn't worth.
Starting point is 01:43:07 I'm risking catastrophe and I'm disordial and criminal mischief. That's kind of the same thing. Calm down, police. Gosh. He needs to charge on his name. Chad Blaine Cole. I mean, I thought I've heard the redneckiest names before. But Chad Blaine Cole.
Starting point is 01:43:25 It's K-O-H-L like the store. It's family. start of the story. Right. It won't never be the names when it's like three first names. Like Billy Bob Johns. Well, I just can't believe that. Risking catastrophe.
Starting point is 01:43:40 That's the first time I've ever heard that as a criminal offense. That's what the documents said. The most recent fan to cross the track was yet again another 25-year-old man, boy, these guys. This time, it was Steve. Palino. Paulino. Steve Polino.
Starting point is 01:43:56 That O is silent. In 2003, during a caution on lap 118, he ran across the front stretch in front of Jeremy Mayfield. He pulled down his pants and Moon Mayfield before jumping over the wall and being arrested. How do we not know of it? The news article says that he pulled down his pants and exposed his buttocks. Yeah. And that was in 2003. That was a good year for drunk people to go on to racetracks apparently.
Starting point is 01:44:23 I mean, guess he didn't like Jeremy Mayfield. You got to thank NASCAR man for giving us this opportunity to read this odd history. Follow him on Twitter. NASCAR man, he tees up some gold for us every week. Maybe that guy's in San Francisco now. Oh, gosh. Of all the people, I never expected her to bring that out of. It's okay if she does.
Starting point is 01:44:42 It's not okay when we do. Dale must have given her the sign to say that. No? What type of sign do you give for that? Say that San Francisco thing. That's weird. Did you see the picture I sent you? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:54 What? No, no, of the San Francisco. Yeah. Yeah. You just asked me if... The censored version or the uncensoreded? I sent him the uncensored version. Oh, no, I did not see that.
Starting point is 01:45:03 What? No, you didn't? No. I ain't trying to see all that. I mean, you're not trying to see all that, but you basically claim to be that guy when the other team rode the car to Victory Lane. You sent me the censored version, and I said the censored part needs to be larger. To cover him then man entirely.
Starting point is 01:45:25 Anyhow. Oh, okay, the man's whole body. Yeah, I got you. Let's clarify that. Let's clarify that. Cover the entire person, Mike. Didn't want anybody going, I know that guy. Well, I enjoyed the show, guys.
Starting point is 01:45:38 Having Martha was on. You're the drunk guy. Having Martha. Well, he says here. Dale's going to cross the track this week at Pocono. Read the read. Having Martha won was special. Oh, it was supposed to be on.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Oh. I didn't get much sleep last night. Yeah, so who's picking on who now? Hey, I'll own it. All right. So having Memon here was great, and she had some great stories and stuff. I didn't even know, obviously, but let's have some fun talking about Pristine. These ad reads are more than ad reads, obviously.
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