The Dale Jr. Download - 355 - Jordan Taylor: Awkward Badass

Episode Date: August 31, 2021

Never judge a book by its cover... IMSA Sportscar racer Jordan Taylor is a perfect example of the saying. A clean-cut, put-together, shy young racer who has a heavy foot, and much to the delight of Dale Earnhardt Jr, a strange sense of humor that makes him one of the most interesting racers on the planet.The second-generation driver comes in nervous to one of the biggest interviews of his career at the table with Dale Jr. and co-host Mike Davis. Although admittedly sweaty and nervous, the layers break down quickly and we learn what makes this unique personality so relatable to so many. From his alter-ego on social media to the wild videos he posts, most of what Jordan does comes from real-life stories. He shares the hilarity of several of these tales from his first girlfriend not turning out to be what he expected and the nightmare that ensued, to his Instagram getting hacked and the threat of nude photos on the black market. Yeah, if that wasn't enough for ya, how about a tale of a surprise colonoscopy. We told you he was interesting.Besides his dynamic internet presence, Taylor is a very accomplished young racer. He explains how he went from a kid watching his dad race to becoming a Championship sportscar driver. He and Dale share stories of their experiences at the 24-hours of Daytona. Dale opens up about his blunders behind the wheel while racing with his father and the Corvette team. This leads to an unreal Dale Jr. story of how his dad found out that he smoked cigarettes!Why did Taylor, a champion in the IMSA Prototype division, make the bold decision to leave those cars to move away from his family team and race for Chevrolet and Team Corvette in the GT LeMans ranks? We uncover the mindset behind the decision. How close has Jordan come to racing stock cars in NASCAR? Dale Jr. opens up about his attempts to get the road course ace behind the wheel of a car at JR Motorsports.Jordan Taylor recently finished second in the prestigious 24 Hours of LeMans and raced with a black Dale Earnhardt tribute helmet. Well, Taylor didn't just bring the helmet with him, he shocked the room by giving the helmet to Dale Earnhardt Jr as a gift of appreciation.Before Taylor came into the studio, Dale and the DJD gang discuss the recent Daytona weekend, which included Amy and Isla making the special trip. What makes Dale Jr. so tickled about having his three-year-old daughter at the race track? They also discuss the Daytona Beach and Road Course exploring that Lost Speedways spawned on social media. With Darlington on the horizon, which is not far from Myrtle Beach Speedway, Dale shares some of the best stories that didn't make the popular episode of the Peacock TV show.In AskJr presented by Xfinity, Leah selects some fan questions about iRacing and the possibility of mapping the famed Beach and Road Course. Could it really happen? Dale Jr. also shares his feelings about Whoop data and what the technology that monitors driver heart rates could mean moving forward and beyond the scope of the NASCAR on NBC broadcasts. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This is a production of Dirty Mo Media. Dirty Mo Media. The Dell Jr. Download starts now. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dell Jr. Download. I'm looking forward to this one. We got a great guest coming on to the show. Rodney Sand Storm's Alter Ego.

That's Jordan Taylor. Jordan Taylor races in Emsacars strictly for Corvette right now. He has had a storied career. But, you know, more interesting for me is his social media content. Man, this guy is the king of personality. Yes. When it comes to, you know, race car drivers, it doesn't get any better than Jordan Taylor. And we want to know how he does it.

So we brought him into the studio. Obviously, we're going to celebrate his career, but there's so much more about this young man that's so interesting and fun. Can't wait to talk to him, Mike. but let's go ahead and jump into our open segment. I just a minute on the way into the podcast, I jumped in the seat of this car I'm going to drive at Richmond, put my helmet on and check my Hans out and all my belts and checked all the pedals and everything where it's supposed to be.

Man, I'm ready to go. That fired me up, so a little seat fitting here in the Junior Motors Sports Office for that upcoming race at Richmond, September 11th. So driving the Xfinity race, it's a two-day double-header, or one day doubleheader with the Xfinity race and the cup race in the same day I'm going to drive in the Xfinity race and then go up to the booth and do the cup race it's going to be a lot of fun.

Also, my daughter, Ila, is going to be there. So she's three now. She's starting to sort of realize what's, I don't know if she can, she doesn't know, she is. She's kind of like doing like the, hey, wait a minute now. You, what? You're getting in? So it's starting to sort of get some traction

as far as her understanding what this is all about. She's still three. I think we've got a couple more years until it really sinks in. But it's kind of fun seeing her brain try to figure out all the things and why racing is a part of our life. So she's going to go to Richmond. She's been before, but she can't remember that. I'm excited for her to go back.

Mainly when you see me with my family right before we get in the car, that's going to be the best time for me watching Ila react to. to everything happening around. Hopefully she, you know, doesn't get nervous or scared because she's been to some of, she's been to some of the cart races with Wyatt and the cars are loud and she doesn't like it. But this past weekend, she went to Daytona. Ila went to Daytona. Amy and Ila, Nicole stayed back here in North Carolina.

And it was pretty cool. I took Ila into the TV lot to show her all the things there. She got to meet a lot of my co-workers And didn't get to take her up to the booth To show her up there I wanted her to see a racetrack from that view But during the races Amy took her over to some friends

Motorhomes and they climbed up on top And Ila got to watch the cars There's one particular motorhome that we have some friends That is backed up against the fence On the inside of turn four And Ila got to watch the cars come by Wow. Real close,

relatively close, right? She had her little head, earphones on, and Amy said she watched a few laps. She watched about three laps of the Exfinity race and about 10 laps of the cup race and thought it was cool, man. Did she? Yeah, I suppose, but she still doesn't understand.

Like, she's like, you know, watch a couple laps, then wants to go play with Legos. So, I mean, you know. Yeah. So, just like I would or any other kid at three years old. But it's just amazing for me. me to, I didn't think that this would affect me at all or get me that pumped, but I'm so

into how she consumes the sport of auto racing. I really am. I really didn't think I would care, but I guess I want her to know about it and appreciate it. And, you know, when I pass away and there's going to be all this stuff, right, that she's going to be like, what in the hell is all this stuff, right? Look at everything in this room. I mean, had the stuff in here. So all the collectibles and things up in storage that I have. So you want her to care. I do want her to care a little bit. So she understands like a little bit of what this stuff might mean to her kids and next several generations.

That's interesting, by the way, because I think that we as parents, you know, we don't know that about ourselves, but we want them to appreciate what we do. I mean, I feel the same way. You know, I guess it's hard to explain. I guess what it is is, like, I try hard not to give a damn about anything. And this is, I'm not getting a choice here. Like, you know, when you have a kid, you're kind of forced this care, this, this give a damn just is infused inside you. You can't force it out.

You can't not care. And so I'm like, gah. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I got to ask. So did they stay in the bus? Yeah.

So y'all stayed multiple days? No, one night. Just one night. So we came into town for the Xfinity race on Friday morning, and it was funny because, you know, maybe not that funny to anybody else. But anyways, Amy and Ila, so we had the rain out and we hung around in the booth, which was so much fun. And we talked over the broadcast of the 2001 July race because the Xfinity race was rained out.

So much fun, and the response that I saw on social media to that was really good. We'd love to do it again, and maybe we'll get some more opportunities to do that if we ever have more rain delays. I don't think we need to turn into a TV show, actually, and there's a lot of reasons I could explain for that. But anyhow, they slept in the bed, so I came into the bus and slept on the couch.

So it was funny, yeah. Boy, it's where you are in the picking order. Yeah, I was so good with it. That's good. I, you know, the thing I wondered when I heard that they went down there, Amy told me this last week when we were at our foundation event, and I didn't say it then to her, but I was, I don't know, anytime y'all get on an airplane, I wonder how, not you,

I know you're good with it. I just wonder, I know Amy isn't always loving it. Gotten better. And I didn't know what Ila. Is that right? Yeah. So, yeah, we had our accident and I don't know, you know, we never talked about it with Ila. We never, we never, she would never talk about it.

She never said anything about a plane crash. She never talked about how that day. She never mentioned it, right? And we never brought it up. But when we'd get on a plane, she was visually afraid. And we worked really hard to make her comfortable and tell her she's safe. You know, we didn't fly unless it was pretty necessary. There was chunks of time where Amy was just nodded.

not about it, not wanting her, just to watch Isla go into that mode and be so scared was hard for both of us and we, we didn't fly for a while. But anyways, you know, to get back on base here, she has, she doesn't even react anymore. There's no visual cue that she's nervous or scared. And so it's interesting that, you know, we were told by multiple people, you know, and we did their own little research about, you know, a child's memory and that, you know, she wouldn't, she wouldn't have memory of that moment or that accident, but, and there would be a time when, you know, she would not be bothered by climbing on an airplane. And apparently that time's getting good. It's a slow process. You know, it doesn't, it's not like a light switch where, you know,

you just forget a tragedy or you forget a moment or something that scared you. But it does, it does get better. And so, yeah. So, good weekend. Yeah, it was great. And, you know, A lot has even in the past couple of weeks flown with someone else,

not with her parents, you know? Good. And that went well. So there's been some great progress there. Well, okay. Now,

to tie this back to what you started with and maybe to put a bow on this, you talked about getting in the seat for the Richmond car. Everything could go well? I mean, did it feel good? I mean, you're like. Wait. So when I was. walk in here. We usually get started at a particular time and I was, I only had about four minutes

to get in here and get with you guys. And I ended up walking by that car and I was like, I got to get in it. Let's get in it. Because I was going to do it after the show. But I was like, y'all ready? I'll do it now. That's cool. I couldn't wait. Man, getting back on the horse. Yeah, I'm so pumped. That's good. Can't wait for the race. Yeah. I might have heard that you got in and did like the toddler driving like the Fisher price. Ready to go, fired up. Making noises. Yeah. He's fired up for sure. That's cool.

All right. All right. We got some great feedback last week on our show Lost Speedways. We were in Daytona. So a lot of folks were able to ease on over. We'd give them a little homework. And a lot of folks were able to ease on over and find that little strip of asphalt that's left from the old beach course. It was so cool.

We got tweets, people taking pictures. We saw that. Yeah. Matthew. I wanted to note. next time we're in Daytona. Let's take our metal detector and he's on down to the beach side of the course. Yeah.

Why not? You get that really cool metal detector. It's old as hell. Let's get a new one. You can use that old piece of junk. Yeah. I'll get a new one. Sweet.

That way you found better stuff. Yeah. I like it. And so I was just thinking about we should do that. Okay. Maybe. Maybe. I'm game.

Maybe we'll have some folks equally like-minded individuals that want to do that with us. Yeah. We could just go out there like a pack of old people in our old Bermuda shorts. Yeah, but we're searching for relics from the racing days. I'm good with that. I'd love to do that. You don't have to ask me twice. We're heading into Darlington this weekend, and that's not far away from Myrtle Beach Speedway.

All right, so I used to drive by Darlington every time, right by the Speedway on the way to Myrtle Beach every week when I race there in the 90s. That's season two episode eight. Yes, it is. All right. One of the favorites from a lot of people that have seen season two this year, Myrtle Beach Speedway. We learned so much during that Explorer that wasn't even included in the episode. That's right.

In 1978, Dad was leading the points when the season came to a halt. That's right. The season came to a halt because they tore up the asphalt. It was a paved race track. They made it a dirt track, and they ran an NDRA dirt late model race at the end of the year. All right. So they didn't really get to finish out the intended schedule. So dad was crowned track champion at Myrtle Beach in 1978.

That's pretty awesome. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Kind of a little lost history right there. That is. I know. It's so hard to believe. I know.

You know, I race there, and no one ever said. Do you know where your dad is a track champion? When the season was suspended, he was the point leader. I know, but he wasn't, he's not listed. Nope. Yeah. All right. So we're going to claim that he's a track champion.

Is that what? Hell, yeah. Okay. All right. In 1959. Ned Jarrett bought a car for $2,000 from Junior Johnson, 1959, all right? He wrote a check to Junior on Saturday. He didn't have the money to cover that check,

so he went to race at Ramby, which is now Marlboro Beach. He ripped his arm open during the race, all right, and he made a tourniquet during the race to continue, and he won. The next day he went to Charlotte and won again. That covered the check for the car. Wow. He bought from Junior. We talked to Sam Summers during the episode at 1.1972.

He won multiple races in a car. row. Track owner Nick Lucas placed a $100 bounty on anyone who could beat summers. I wonder what, in 19702, $100 is what? Maybe $200, $300. Yeah, exactly. Pretty good bounty. I'd take it. In 1980, Terry Labani, yes, that Terry Labani finished second in a dirt race at Myrtle Beach. And then, on Monday, won the Southern 500. Oh, yeah. Good week. That's a double. 1980. Man, he was just getting started. Yeah. We also learned that in 1993 during the filming of a movie name Hudsucker proxy. That's a terrible

name for a movie. Paul Newman, yeah, the actor Paul Newman stopped by the track. He took a few laps around Myrtle Beach. That's cool. Yeah. He's a driver. Yeah, Paul. Yeah, he got around. All right, so what's your favorite moment from the history of

Myrtle Beach Speedway or your favorite part of the episode? Please let us know. Make sure you tag at Peacock TV and I need you to use this hashtag. Lost Speedways. Hashtag Lost Speedways. Both seasons of Lost Speedways are streaming on Peacock right now.

Go check it out. Tell your friends. That's cool. So let's bring in our guests. Let's bring on Rodney Sandstorm. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Say that you a baller. You lane can't play this game.

Step up to the play because you. Say that you a baller. The man. The mustache. Jorts. The Mullet. Cool-ass sunglasses. Rainbow Jacket.

It's Rodby Sandstorm. Oh, wait, it's not. It's Jordan Taylor. Oops. Hi, Jordan. Here he is. Jordan Taylor. Dun-d-d-d-dun-dum.

There he is. What's up, man? My man. Look at him. Look at this. He's here. He's here. I know.

I'm there. So you've been on the list. We have a, we have this little note that we all share on our phones about our hopeful sort of guests. And you've been on this list for a long time. That's cool. You have. And the reason why that you've been on that list is not only are you talented and successful

and sort of creating, you know, going along your journey, creating this pretty remarkable career, but your personality. in a sport that thrives off of personality, like you're the biggest. Nobody does what you do. There's a lot of great creativity out there. People putting out great content. But you are kind of a one-man band, and you have a lot of great ideas. Thank you.

A lot of weird ideas. Yeah, but it is weird. Yeah. But it's kind of a great sense of humor, and it lets people see a side of you, and you're pretty comfortable sharing, and you're not afraid to fail. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

And so where does that come from? Definitely didn't come from like my childhood. I was super shy growing up and introverted and like if you ask anyone in my high school, I didn't talk to a single person. So they'd be, I'm sure there. I don't know. I think, I know there was one turning point in my life when I grew my mullet when I was like an adult. And it gave me like a lot of self-confidence because it had, it obviously brings a lot of eyes on you when you're a grown man with a mullet. And, you know, everyone's asking, everyone's staring at you. And it gave me like a weird kind of sense of confidence. It was almost like a cape. like Superman's cape like when I had it yeah it gave me a lot of confidence and once it went away I was like okay I'm comfortable now just being myself and I was okay that people were laughing at me with my my mullet and everything and now I'll just that open up the gates yeah and from then on it was just a bunch of weird videos and pictures and stories have you kind of always had that personality though even though you were you were guarding it yeah you know you kind of always had this this sort of I think with my family I was we actually like yesterday I watched a video some like home movies

from when I was a kid. And it was, you could see some of the weird personality stuff, like quoting Dr. Evil when I was like five or six years old and those sorts of things. So it definitely was evolving over time. So are you over your shyness now? Or do you still? No, I'm still shy. Like I'm sweating right now sitting here.

I swear my armpits are so sweaty. All right. Shots. Let's get shots. Everybody line them up right now. You and your brother, are y'all twins or how, like, y'all look so damn. People think we're twins. Who's the oldest?

He's older. He's like 20 months older. 20 months. Yeah. And he's super reserved. Yeah. He's kind of like the same way, though. He's got a great personality, but he doesn't show it.

Like a lot of my weird videos are like... Like Jimmy Johnson of the... Yeah. Like, a lot of my videos are like, hey, you should do... I think it should be funny. And I'm like, you should do it. Like, no, I won't do it, but I think you should do it. Y'all bounce ideas off each other.

Yeah. So he's using my filter. Like, if I have like a crazy idea that I think might be a little bit too edgy, he's kind of like my switcher language. He's going to be like, no, that's not okay to post. Have you ever done anything where your sponsor to come behind you and said, hey, don't like it?

Or that's a little bit? That's a little bit. I don't think I've ever gotten too far. You never made anybody uncomfortable. No. I can recall. Is there anything that you did that you would live real back in?

Oh, that's tough. That didn't maybe got the different response that you were intending? I don't think so. How do you get so lucky then? I know. Well, I mean, no, actually, yeah, no, I do have a good one then. Okay. So on my Instagram story, I used to post, there was a lady at my gym who'd been on the elliptical.

It was the best thing. It is. I would make it the elliptical Olympics. And every Monday, she would go in there and do the weirdest stuff on the elliptical. She'd, like, go on one of them and do it and put her hands above her head, like a mermaid. Oh, yeah. And then blindfolded, and I'd film it, and I'd commentate it every Monday. And I'd post it.

And then, but I knew the lady. So I was like, I'd ask her, I'm like, hey, are you okay with this? She thought it was the funniest thing. Whoa, whoa, whoa. So you did know her? Yeah, as my mom's friend. Yeah. And you would, why was she doing this?

She had a lot of reasons. I mean, it was impressive. Like, I tried to do it. I could not do it. Okay. It was an impressive physical feat. It was a brand of workout. It was.

So that's something you'd do differently? I mean, I've tried it. No, I'm saying, so why are you bringing this specific piece up? So I posted it. I posted the video and it was a good one. So I'm like, all right, I'll save my story and I'll post it publicly. Like, so everyone can see it not that people are just following me. Sure.

I posted on Facebook and I went testing and Sebring. And I didn't look at my phone the whole test. Two days later, like, someone, my gym calls me. And I'm like, why is my gym calling? They're like, hey, did you post a video last week? Ooh. And I was like, yeah, I did. And they're like, oh, well, we had some complaints.

And I'm like, who at my gym, like, follows me that would complain about it? and I went on my Facebook and I had like over a million views because it got shared by people and like shared by people who thought it was hilarious that was probably the problem like shared by people who loved it

and then shared by people who were like this guy's body shaming and making fun of people this is why I don't go to the gym and I had so many like death threats oh my gosh you're making fun of people I'm going to call your sponsors you had death threats

I had the meanest things you could ever imagine from like a funny video so like that was a negative one like that's one i would have never thought that one was the one that you would reel back are you thinking of one specifically that no no no i just was like because that was that was probably the one that introduced me to your personality that was what like i think dana gotpatrick was the first one that like reposted those ones and then because her she tried to do it actually of course she did yeah of course dana can try to do it so i think like that might have like put it over the top

Did you had you had a conversation with your mom's friend since? Yeah. What was her feeling? She was, like, so disappointed. She was like, she wanted me to interview her and post like the interview. So, like, explain, like, this is okay that he's doing this and explain why she was doing it and wanted to just wanted to keep doing it so I could keep filming or doing it. I thought you did do it a few more times. I might have gone more than one version.

There were a bunch. Right. And that was the last one. Okay. Yeah. All right. I think it's still on my, like, Instagram highlights. Have you explained?

yourself to any other publication besides coming here today? Had you explained like that whole? No. No. So this is the first time that you shared this. Interesting. Is that your most successful video or video series? Like if you had others that performed better?

No, probably that one was probably the most because there was so much negative feedback. Oh, come on. But I've had some good ones. Like I built a cyber cart, a go cart over Christmas a couple years ago. That one went pretty well. It was like a Tesla go cart. and then I wore like a dog head. Yeah.

And like I decided my dog, oh, it was during COVID. Yeah, I'm like, we've had so much free time. My dog learned how to drive a go car. And that was actually super sketchy because the dog mask I had had like two little holes in it. So you could only see directly in front of you. So when I was driving, I was like, holy cow, like if there's anything next to me, I'm going to have a big one here. You know, we've got so many questions. And I'm afraid we're going to get them all and they're going to be social media related and we're not even going to get to his race and career.

That's okay. We can have him back. Just stay. Just camp out. Listen, I'm here for a whole week. I think that you put a lot of thought behind everything you do, and I'm wondering how much strategy, how much writing do you do for your social media? How much of your social media presence is strategic?

I mean, the timing of it's never strategic, unless it's like something unique to the time, obviously. Like scheduling, like posting the helmet for LaMalle with the Dale Senior helmet was strategic of when I was going to post that. But like my funny, weird stuff, usually will just, I'll see something and I'll be like, oh, that's funny. I'll write it down and then I'll keep reflecting on it. What's the story with the lady with the pink hair?

Therese. The fan. Yeah, a fan from France. She doesn't speak a word of English. So we've never actually communicated. Who was she trying to, who was she trying to shout at? I think me. I'm not sure.

I met her like four years ago at LaMau. I love how you've like made different, like you've created like this sort of, Yeah. It's like there's multiple episodes of this one. Yeah, it's been years now. It's continuing on, like, every time you go. Because the first year I met her, it was just like a normal fan interaction. Like the parade at LaMau is like crazy.

Yeah. And I saw her and she was, I think she was shouting like, Jordan, Jordan, so I jumped off our car and I went in over, hugged her. And like, that was our first interaction. Next year I go, she's there with orange pink hair. And she had a wig for me. She's like, here's... That's where you got that.

And she gave it to me. I'm like, is Jordan like searching for this stuff? How does he find this stuff? Because it looks pretty good. So like she would always shout like, oh, I know, like when she'd see me. So then... What for? I don't know.

I think it was like some sort of mating call. Y'all's just between you and her. Yeah. I'm not sure what it is. So that year, the video, that video was so funny to make the first one I made because I saw her in the distance. You could see her like her air, obviously. And I told Ryan Smith, the Corvette PR guy, I'm like, hey, take my phone.

and go stand next door and just film her, and I'm going to do something. And I went upstairs in our building where you can't see out the window. Like there's a banner in front of it. And I'm like, just film her reaction. And then I'm going to piece together a video from her reaction. So I went out the window, oh, and you can see her like looking around and she's like figuring out what's going on. And then she started shouting back. And it was just the funniest thing.

So when does this happen? I've met you before at the racetrack. And when practice is happening, you're switched on, right? Yeah, you're different. You're different. How does that work for you? Because I couldn't, I don't know if I did that or not. I didn't feel like I did.

But when you're this huge personality, you got all these things that you love to do. And you're thinking about this while you're physically on, you know, on the property of the racetrack. Yeah. But as soon as like the garage is hot, you're like, you're like, you know. Like a robot. Yeah. I don't know what, I'm glad I'm like that. Yeah, sure.

I'll say that. The biggest part of, like when I started. doing this. I didn't want to be the guy who's doing this on social media and then making mistakes on the track. I didn't want it to be an excuse to be like, oh, well, he's not paying attention. He's not focused on racing. He's worried about making funny videos. So when I first started doing it, like, I was very strict with myself to be like, when I'm at the track, I'm at the track. And like, usually I wouldn't even check social media when I'm at the track most of the time. So yeah. But like if I get a, if I see something on the weekend, like this year at

Sebring, I was watching the broadcast like during the race. And I don't know if he's saw the video, but the Mazda guy went to wipe a tear off off, or he cleaned, he was cleaning a tear off, and then he ripped it off afterwards, and I'm like, holy cow, that's hilarious. So I, I'm like, I'm like, holy cow, I got to do something with this. So, like, during the race, I wrote down, like, the timestamp, I'm like, remember this. You'll look back at what happened. You'll remember what it is? Did you understand, Mike?

No, I do. Yeah. The guy claimed the tear off, and then, like, immediately ripped it off. All in this, like, it's very, like, he was like, doing this job. So, so in other words, you. You can stay zoned in, but still flag a moment. I'll flag a moment if I have to. And that guy had no clue what he had just done.

So you see when that happens and the video gets so popular, like someone's going to break it down and figure out what happened. So I watched it really closely. He actually was wiping, and then when he, like, swiped across his elbow caught it. So he, like, pulled a part of it off, so then he had to pull it off. So then, like, there's a couple comments. We were like, oh, you're just making fun of him, but he was doing his job. People are hard on you for making your fun videos. Yeah.

Just have a laugh at it. I know, right? By the way, Dale, let me help you out. You weren't sure when or how you were able to plug in and plug out at the racetrack. You became unfun the moment you walked in the tunnel. And you weren't fun again until you left the tunnel. That just wanted to help you out there. I believe I remember that part.

Yeah. Was that always? Yeah. Every week. I mean, listen. Even when you were young? I don't know. Different era.

Yeah. That's a good point. Like, when I was racing into Busheries, I think I was having a great time and I was, I was enjoying myself. For whatever reason, when I got in the Cup series, the garage, the vibe in there is way serious. Yeah. Cut through. Everybody's trying to be cooler than each other. Yeah.

There's a lot of, so, the egos are so massive. I don't do well in that environment either. I didn't. I became part of it. Like, my ego got massive and I'm trying to be cool and cooler than every, you know, all the other drivers and none of us it just was a rough space and by and like over a period of 15 years finally once I retired I was like god almighty I was miserable yeah and I was like I was I made myself miserable I made you know that misery was my own doing yeah and so when I walk in there now I kind

of chuckle because they're all in there super serious grinding away with their egos did not having fun no not having fun I mean some of them do some of them have a good time this is what's interesting about both you guys and that is because like with you, I mean, you were most popular driverdale. And so people always would say, that's the guy I want to drink a beer with. That's what I want to hang out with, all that stuff. But then on pre-race appearances, like, certainly when you had like five or six hundred fans and you're having to do that, you didn't necessarily, I mean, I'll put it this way. You had anxiety over it.

And so, because that wasn't who you were. You, George, I mean, like, you guys, you're saying you're shy. He's shy. Yeah. Do you even have a social wire, like where you're the life of a party, you were to go into a sponsor event or a party, are you the one that people, because people sort of now expect that out of you.

Yeah, I think most people are disappointed when they meet me in person. Do something funny. I'm like, I can't, like, I can't do it right now. Sing and dance for us, you know. No chance. Yeah.

Yeah, it would have to require a lot of alcohol, I think, to be the center of attention. So that's a fair thing. It's sort of misleading. Your social media presence, I mean, you call it an alter ego. Yeah. Or you're Rodney Sandstone character,

which is, we haven't even talked about that. But, like, it's a strategic thing that you do, and it is the whose side of you are. It's just not who you are all the time. Yeah, right. Definitely. And so you, Dale, we're just like, I can't wait for this to be over. Yeah.

And so I can just get in a race car where everything makes sense. Yeah. That's how it felt like you were. I like being in the car. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't want to talk. Is this close?

You're a lot closer to mine. Yeah. You do whatever you want. Okay. Yeah. Just check. Are you talking about the mic? Yeah.

I'll do it. Yeah. Get rid of what you want. Is this making uncomfortable? Does it move the way? It was like right in front of your face I wasn't sure if it was too far from me. Do you think we're thinking,

oh my God, where does he put his mic? It's so weird. Stop judging me. So, I'm still sweating, by the way. I'm so pumped up that you're here, man. I've got,

I've been, I don't have a problem. I'm trying to see what all you have here. There is a lot. You can take all the time you want. Yeah. We just, it's a bunch of random.

Yeah, there is no purpose. Whose shoe is that? That's Shacks. Holy cow. Here, hold on. Yeah, you want to see Shack's shoe? What is it?

What is it size 21? 22? Geez, just running in that would be impressive. Like a cow for cow. Have you seen the Seinfeld episode where they wear the big shoes? Yeah, it's like that. This is what we do. We get Shaquille O'Neal's shoe to make people feel comfortable when they sit at the table.

Does it work? This is much better. This is much better. I'll just hold it the whole side. You just get hold you. You feel inadequate? You feeling better? I do feel better.

I do feel better. Sled. Yeah. Yeah. No, not that sweaty. I'm not getting too sweaty to get oil on it. No, it's fine. You do what you want.

Some people prefer the shoe. Some people like just to hold onto the dick pit sign behind you. It's whatever you want. I want to be talking about the older that guy. No, no, no. Sorry. No, we're good. We're good.

All right. Well, we've got to make him feel comfortable, though. Yeah, for sure. So I need to know. Your dad raced. Yeah. All right. We've got to move this.

Actually. It's so distracting. He's going to block it. Definitely block two or three cameras. I think your dad's awesome. And I joked around a little bit that he reminded me a Dudley Moore. And I know you probably don't even know who Dudley Moore is, right? So Dudley Moore is this actor that was in one of my favorite movies called Arthur. Arthur, side note, was a billionaire and he loved to race cars.

And your dad kind of fits into that little box a little bit. Minus the billionaire part. Yeah. But, well, you could confuse him with one. wanted to because he's all professional and his outfits are always you know his racing teams and everything come across the finish line first i've always kind of thought a lot of your dad and when i was racing in the corvette and stuff back then and hearing his name and watching you kids come along it just seems like y'all were bred to become what you've become i want to know

you know when you were a kid was was racing the ultimate you know was that the ultimate thing for you did you have other things in your life that you enjoyed? What was the moment where you were like, this is what I want to do? Were you instantly race car driver? No. Yeah, neither were either Ricky or I. I didn't think it was going to happen.

So we grew up, like my dad and my mom, they came from South Africa, and like they came from absolutely nothing. So everything that is kind of built. When did that happen? When did they move? They moved in 89 to England to race in world sports cars, and then Ricky was born there. and then in 1990 they had to move back to South Africa, and then he got a job actually with Jim Miller of Pratton Miller,

who's Corvette Racing, to come live in America in 1990. So he moved here almost kind of with nothing with a little contract to go sports car racing and started his family here. And then in 1990, 1991, he was basically a GM driver with Pratton Miller racing sports cars, and that's kind of how it grew. And his whole mantra was always the business side of it and raising money, like in South Africa to go racing, he had to raise his own money and figure out how to raise sponsorship.

So kind of when Ricky and I were growing up, that was what he taught us. It wasn't exactly driving how to drive. It was how to raise money to go racing. So for us, it wasn't that exciting to begin with. Like, we don't want to go learn how to write a proposal and go meet people. Yeah.

So for us, we'd go to the racetrack and watch them race, and then we'd go home and play soccer and had no interest. And then kind of when we were 10 and 12, we got one go cart to share and we'd race once a month maybe and we'd kind of alternate who was driving which weekend and... Sounds like me and my brother.

Was it similar? We did the same thing. Yeah, and it was fun, but it wasn't like, man, I really want to do this. And the funny part was like, we didn't know I needed glasses at the time. So I was like so slow. It would take me all day to get up to speed

and no one could figure out why and it was because I was trying to figure out where I was going all day. and then by the end of it, I'd pick up references. And then when my dad retired the first time from driving in 2002, and he could kind of come to the track with us and kind of teach us driving-style things and understanding why things are doing what they do,

that's when we kind of got hooked a little bit. When did you start having success? It took a while. When he got the glasses, apparently? Yeah. That was a big step. When did you have, like, that first moment? When I moved to cars, Skip Barber Racing School.

So Go-Carts, we were never really successful. we drove with a Brazilian chassis called Cart Mini. So we were the only ones in all of America running it, and maybe that was partly why we were not that successful. Carts, listen, I've never raced on the road course with a cart, and when I watched that, it looks like so competitive. It's insane. And the money is crazy how much people spend on it.

It's like you could go, like that's kind of why we moved out of it was because we could spend less money doing car stuff than go carts. When we have go-karts here and it's dirt track, it's ovals, it's a little, you know, and you kind of race it. I don't know, it just looks like it's passing and all that. It's kind of a little more understandable, easier, if that makes sense. When I watch, I never did it, but when I watch that type of racing, it just looks so frustrating. Yeah. Because everybody's so good and there's nobody really making a mistake to open up an opportunity.

And even the opportunities aren't really passing opportunities. You just, you have to make contact to make a move or something like that. It looks frustrating. And I know you still fool around just kind of like to stay in shape and all that, right? Yeah, I did a proper one last year and it was just a disaster. I thought maybe like now I'm a successful race car driver. I could go back to go carts, but it was the same story. Oh, was it?

It was still. You couldn't just mow them down now? Not even close. I got mowed up. That's a discipline on itself. You know, you're like the third or fourth person that we've had just in the past couple months that have referenced skip barber as being kind of their their big break how does one even get to skip barber like how does that happen i mean anyone anyone could do it yeah just

pay yeah i mean i did the three-day school which was their little open-wheel car with no wings and they basically like put you on an auto cross and a skid pad what track my three days at seabring on the modified course of the first half and like i didn't even know how to clutch worked no one even explain that part of it. I mean, I think maybe after my day, they learned that maybe we need to teach them how it clutch works because I was just stuck. They added it to the curriculum. Yeah, I was stuck in the pits for like 10 minutes. We're like, we don't understand why this kid's not moving yet. So I did the three day there. I did my two-day advanced school. So like anyone can do that if you do the three-day, did my two-day at Daytona, and then basically graduate from there to do their race series.

And I did the like two races in the Southern Championship and the full Eastern Championship. then I guess my success would have started. I did a scholarship for Skip Barber, like the carding shootout. So GoCart drivers go to a shootout. And that's where I finally felt confident. Like, I know what I'm doing now. I can understand what the car is doing and why I'm quick and why I'm competitive.

And I finished second in the shootout, which paid for a whole season of Skip Barber. Yeah. Well, who were you, was there anybody else in Skip Barber at the time that we recognized? Yeah, Connor Daly was in my east. It did a couple of my Eastern races. and then Gabby Chavez, if you heard that name. He's done IndyCar, Dion von Moltke.

And then the year before was New Garden, my brother, Joel Miller, and then a couple years before that was Rossi. Gotcha. Yeah. Wow. Did you form relationships with anybody? Yeah, I mean, all of them, we can all reference back to it. Like, Connor and I, I remember we had good races at Lime Rock that year.

Like Gabby and I, I think it was between me and him for the championship. I don't think Connor did the whole season. But, yeah, it's fun to kind of reflect. like back on it. Like Connor and I, I think, had a similar upbringing. Like, neither of us, I don't think he had a much success in go-carts. And I remember, like, we raced at Daytona one year, and we were, like, nose to tail the entire race, but for, like, 25th position. It's like, one of the chances, like, me and the same guy are progressing through our careers. And we were in the back of the pack back then. Yeah. So after Skip Barber, where did you end up? We went straight to sports car racing,

basically I did. What year? 2007. I was 16 when I did my first Rolex 24. That's insane. Yeah, it was insane. Tell him the story. Tell him the story. about what your dad said when he leaned into the cockpit. Really good at your conference. Yeah. So I was obviously nervous. Probably sweating just as much as I am right now. This is a lot comparable to the Rolex.

I agree. And we get there and I'm racing with my buddy Mark and his dad, Gary, and a Porsche. And I sit in the car and I'm like, this little 16-year-old and I'm like terrified. And I'm like, my dad leaned in and I'm like, this is going to be cool. He's going to give me some like confidence-inspiring words. And he just says, you're not ready for this. And he walked away and he laughed. I'm like, holy cow, maybe I'm not ready for this.

What was that supposed to mean? I don't know. And then he never explained to himself because he was racing himself. Like he was down the other, like, I was at this end of the panic. And he was at that end. And I'm like, okay, well, I'll see you tonight for dinner, I guess. I mean, what a boost of confidence that is. It was terrifying.

And then you go on track and I'm actually, so there was a test day at Daytona the Roar before the 24. And obviously, like, I'm a super fan of all these drivers. So I'm like, oh, that's that guy. that's that guy, that guy. And I remember, I'll never forget, I came off NASCAR 4 to come into the pit lane, and I'm like, bam, like, downshifting into the pit lane, like, taking it easy. And this prototype just comes flying by me into a pit lane.

I'm like, holy cow. Like, I guess that's what it's like out here. And then the next lap, there's a red flag, and that car had crashed. Oh, wow. And I'm like, wow, that's ironic. I wonder what happened. And then I found out the next day that was Ricardo Zanta, who was an ex-forma one driver, and he had never been there.

So when he saw me coming into pit lane, he thought that was. was the race track. Oh my God. So when he came flying by me, he was like, all right, I'm going to pass a GT car, then I'm a break for turn one. And when he got to the pit lane, he's like, holy cow, this is not the racetrack. So he slowed down. And then the next lap he went around to turn one, had no idea where he was, breaked way too late and hit the wall and got a concussion and everything. But my first impression was like, wow, this is what the real racing is about. That's a heck of a first week. Yeah. That is. Did you, your dad, ever talk about that, by the way? It's like, you know, now that when you've won, you've won the Rolex, you've won it.

Yeah. And, you know, you know, can you not go back and go, hey, you know what? I feel like I persevered a little bit, considering you told me I wasn't ready for this, you know. I actually, I don't think I have. Maybe I will. I'll ask him. What's your relationship like with your dad? It's good, yeah.

What does he like? What are y'all's communication like? Oh, that's too much. Yeah. What does that mean? He calls me. I mean, I probably had four miss calls since I've been sitting here from him. I live next door to my dad.

Uh-huh. So when I moved away, I moved 10 houses down. We live on a lake. And I was like, I don't want to move away from the lake. So I moved 10 houses away. And then someone wanted to buy my house in the house next to my dad was available. So I'm like, I guess. Where do you live?

Just outside of Orlando? So you're from Orlando, right? Born and rest. And never left. No, never left. Other than to, you know, whatever you maybe have to go race and do that kind of thing. Yeah. All right.

It's good, though. I mean, he's like a normal dad. Like, he checks in all the time. Obviously, it kind of annoy, annoy us with how many phones. calls we get and checking in all the time. But it's just a normal dad. And at the same time, he'll flick the switch super fast to be team owner dad and race her dad and, you know, check on your life. You're racing insurance. Make sure you're doing all these things. And what then, like, hey, make sure you're power washing your driveway every month and doing those things.

What does your brother live? He lives like 20 minutes away. He needed a little bit more space. Which was a good move. Yeah. Is your brother married? He's engaged. They were supposed to get married last year. Yeah. And they held it off. What about you? I've got a girlfriend. How long?

Like six months? Really? Yeah. Well, before that? No, no proper girlfriends now. Nothing. Yeah. There's a story, though.

Did people think you were married? That's an ongoing story. Yeah. I don't think we should get into it because I've been advised by, like, lawyers not to get into it. But yeah, if anyone out there, if I'm talking to the camera, if anyone thinks I'm married, I'm not married. Yeah.

Yeah, there's definitely some rumors going around. It was the lady at the gym, right? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Why, the reason why you're not married because you've been, you know, just racing and focusing on that? Is that like, no, I mean, I was, I was super shy. I didn't get married until I turned 40, so I'm probably not authorized really to even ask

this type of question. Marital. Yeah. I mean, I was, I mean, I didn't date until I was like 20, 21. I was like not interested. It was all racing. And I was extremely shy. so I was never going to approach a girl anyway.

And then, yeah, I won my first major championship in 13. I remember pretty vividly, like, winning it and celebrating with the team and having a great time. And then going home and living by myself and just being like, well, I guess it's just me and like my dog and I guess we'll just train for next year. And I was like, yeah, it would be nice to have someone to kind of share this with and experience it with.

And that's when I kind of started dating from there and never really met anyone until now that I was like, I really like this person. and I'm I can't really hang out with a lot of people. I kind of get either bored or frustrated or kind of annoyed if their personalities don't match up really well. Because I'm okay to like just sit in silence with people at times. How did you meet her then? I want to know what kind of game you applied to make this happen.

My girl girlfriend? Yeah. I mean, we met online and then we kind of have very similar personalities where we both like some alone time. We both can kind of sit in silence. but we have very similar sense of humor, which I think is the biggest thing. And we both like doing activities and doing fun things, active things. So I think our personality match up really well, whereas in the past, my personality never matched up with the girls I was kind of dating.

And I definitely ran into a couple bad experiences, so I'm glad I'm kind of through the most of that phase. Yeah. Yeah, dating sucked. I was, I didn't have any game. I didn't remember something about you, though. What? So when I was young, I don't know what interview, maybe like 60 minutes or something.

I remember the guy, like, walked into your bathroom and pulled out a book that said, like, dating for dummies. Yeah. For some reason, I always remembered that. Yeah. I was like, I probably need that book, too. Oh, yeah. That was Mike Wallace. It was.

Rest in peace. He was, yeah, he was so good. And he went into the bathroom, come out and had a whole topic to talk about. I think that was where I said I was going to drive the boat. Boy, talk about some things that got some kickback. Yeah. Yeah. Dale says his quote was to work in a relationship, I'm the one driving the boat.

That was his. Yeah. I was like, if I'm going to be in relationship, oh, yeah. I'm driving. Yeah. And boy, it was not wrong. Was Twitter around back then? Nope.

That's good. 40. If it had been, you'd been done. And now that I'm married, I realize that that's not how it works. You are your first mate, it's best. I'm good with it. I'm like happy. You drive the boat.

You drive the boat. I don't want the boat. I'm just going to ride. I'm going to ride over here. You know, we have some similarities in the fact that we were both really shy and introverted. I had no game. So like when I would, my crew chief, Tony Uri Sr. used to joke that it was the no max. It was the only reason why the girls, yeah, the only reason why I'd ever get a girl to go out with me was because of the no max. I was probably similar. So my first girl I dated was from a racetrack.

and I think it kind of started from my mom. You know Johnny O'Connell, the driver? So he was a Corvette driver as well. He was. And I was racing at Cadillac at the time. I was 20 or 21. And he was like, Joanne, you got to like, who are you dating?

I'm like, I'm not dating anyone. And my mom actually went to him and like, Johnny, try like, like, teach him something. Teach him how to talk to a girl or introduce him to someone. So Johnny, like, took it, you know, literally. Literally. And I'm like, okay.

And I didn't know this at the time. And so the team had like a couple girls to, I think, like, hold the flags or like maybe sell shirts and stuff. And he's like, oh, there's this new girl. They all love her. Like, I love you to meet her. I'm like, okay, I'll meet her. So I met her at the track in Ohio, and she was really nice. We went to dinner, really awkward dinner, obviously, for a date.

And then John's like, all right, now you invite her to your next race because I was going to go home. She lived in Ohio. Next race was in Wisconsin, Rhode America. It's like, yeah, just fly her out to your next race. race. I'm like, okay, I guess that's the next step. So flies out to the next race. Super awkward again. Like, I don't know what to do. Come to the track, meets the whole family, obviously, because my dad's there, my mom and Ricky, and meets everyone's hanging out. And then I go home, she goes home, and we're like kind of planning the next date. And I'm like, maybe I'll fly up to Ohio to see you.

So yeah, that would be great. So go to bed one night, wake up the next day for a triathlon at 4.30. I'll never forget all the details of this story. 4.30 in the morning I'm waking up. I get a text 428. Group text with her name and like four others and it says, hey, I'll see you soon from the number I don't have. And I'm like, hey, I'll see you soon.

Who is this? And now I'm like getting ready for my triathlons, like 5 o'clock in the morning. And it comes back, your worst nightmare, the sand monkey. What? And I was like, okay. Like it must be one of her friends kind of messing around. So I'm like, I have pretty bad nightmares, but the

sandmuckie doesn't sound so bad. I kind of joking around. And I'm like, no. So it's you, her, and another number you don't have. Yeah. And I'm like, yeah. So I'm like, it's got to be like our friends are messing around. And it comes back, shut up, Jordan.

You don't know who you're talking to. You've been going out with my wife. What? Yeah. And I was like, oh my gosh. And so I'm like, in shock. Like, I'm like arriving at my triathlon, like, what the heck's going on?

And I'm like, I don't think I said anything at this time. And he starts setting wedding. pictures and I'm like holy cow and then I'm like trying to piece it together in my head I'm like trying to convince myself that this can't be true because she did like modeling I'm like maybe you know there's just some modeling pictures she has a wedding dress modeling.

For the wedding magazine of course so I'm like trying to convince myself that this is okay and so I'm like I take it out of the group text and I text them like hey if this is true like nothing happened don't worry about it I'm really sorry if I'm in the middle of something here like I didn't mean anything any bad intentions like I obviously had no idea

and he's like, yeah, I know who you are. I tracked her cell phone to Rhode America and watched the race. And then he, like, watched the whole race. And as the camera, like, panned across my pit box, he had, like, a picture of her in the pit box. Like, I know she was there with you. And I was like, oh, my gosh. And then you went back to the main text.

Like, hey, whatever name to the brother. Like, hey, let's go get this guy. What? It's going to be in Laguna next week. I'm like, holy cow. Like, don't come get me, man. Like, I didn't do anything. I don't know what you're talking about.

And then, yeah, so then it was all true. And, like, she called me crying, apologizing, and she ended up being, like, 15 years older than me. Oh, my gosh. Yeah, it was crazy. That is crazy. What an introduction to, like, the dating world. So what? Did you ever sort it out with this dude?

With the guy, yeah, I'm like, hey, man, I'm really sorry. I'm about to start a triathlon. They're going to probably run as fast as I can now. I won the race thinking you were behind me. Yeah. So, like, I'll call you after. So I called them probably 20 times. times throughout the day trying to get a hold of him. He never answered, never got back to me.

And then she called, like, apologizing and then was like, wanted to make it work. She said, like, they were separated, but not divorced. And I was like, ah, like, I'd rather not get in the middle of anything. And then, so, like, obviously, we broke things off. And I actually looked her up a couple years ago, and they're still together, and they had a baby, so. What a happy ending. Yeah. So maybe it was, like, the last straw that brought them back together. I don't know. Yeah. Oh my God.

Damn, that made me so... Nervous. I mean, like, this... Are you sweating now, too? No, we are. Or we're sweating. Go ahead. What other stories do you got today?

I got all sorts of weird stories. Good, heaven. Well, okay. If we're on the topic of weird stories, odd notes to ask about, I've got this. Nudes on the Black Market. I love that he put the titles on there. Is there no description to that one? No, that's it.

Nudes on the black market. So, do you want that story? So a couple years ago, my Instagram got hacked by, like, Russian hackers. Was your password not good? I guess not. Yeah, fluffy, one, two, three, my dog's name. So I'm, like, trying to figure out how to get back. Can't get it back for, like, two weeks.

And then I'm like, there has to be a way to, like, contact Instagram or Facebook. So I Google contact number for Facebook, because I guess they own Instagram. Like, top one comes up. Yeah, contact Facebook. Facebook, like, slash help. I'm like, this is it. So I call a number and like, yep, and give them my email and my username.

Like, yeah, okay, we see your lock. Like, we see someone in Russia has your account. I'm like, okay, like, can we get it back there? Yep, give us approval to block their IP address and we can block them and then we can get you in and reset the password. I'm like, okay. And then I approve.

And they're like, okay. And they come back like a minute later. Okay, we've blocked it, but they're now pinging in Italy and Croatia. We need to ping these. if you give us approval. I'm like, yeah, okay, just do it. All of them. Yeah, block it, whoever you have to block. And then like five minutes, like, I'm on hold. And like five minutes, they come back and they're like, okay, we've got some news for you. And I'm like, okay, like, what's going on? And like, so the hackers

have taken every one of your Instagram photos and edited them to make you nude. Like, they put, they've edited all of your photos. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And they're like, yes, and they're selling them. They're selling Jordan Taylor nude photos on the internet. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me. And they're like, but we can. take this down if you give us approval. I'm like, yeah, just take them. Just do it. Like, I don't need to give you approval to do these things. And then like, okay, and now we need you to go to the Apple store and buy a gift card. And I'm like, what? And I'm like, yeah, you need to go buy a gift card and give us the code off the back. And I'm like, there's an Apple store like 30 minutes from me.

It's going to take me an hour. And they're like, yeah, well, wait for you. And I'm like, that's weird. So like, I go on speakerphone, like Google like Facebook scams. And that was like the number one scam. And I was like, oh my gosh. And I'm like, holy gal. Yeah, they had me on the phone for like an hour talking about my nude photos. How did, wait, first, okay, so where did you see this number to go? So there's no phone number to contact Facebook and or Instagram I found out. Like, you cannot. And you Googled it and I Googled like Facebook help and there's a phone number there and someone out of the country will answer it.

And this person sounded credited. They sounded legit. Really? They're like, they knew a lot about. The bad actors. Yeah. I got hooked with. They got you. Yeah.

I mean, but they must make a ton of money. Like I was ready to go to Apple store and. Yeah. give them a code for something and not get any Instagram back. My goodness. So what ever happened to your Instagram? So then there's like... I can't remember how I got it back actually.

I think there was a portal where you can email or send in notices and I sent it in a bunch and eventually someone picked it up. But I know a lot of people who have lost their Instagram because of it. Yeah. You need like the two-step authentication or something. Damn. You need two-step authentication. About to.

I hate to say this because I don't want the hackers trying to prove me wrong That was pretty good about my password So when they get it The hackers send messages to all your recent message people Like weird messages So like people were sending me screenshots of messages That I was sending from my account Like hey why are you sending me these weird links to like

Other things? I'm like that's not me Oh my God I hate that man Yeah they can have nothing nice Although if you did have nude photos out that could just be another alter ego that you could just refer to that yeah you'd have come up with something else that would be it that think bert yeah but all right bert bert is going to be the next alter ego if that thing ever happens all right oh man surprise colonoscopy do we want to go there

that's a weird one oh because these other ones are normal yeah it sounds weird uh you want that one yeah let's hear so yeah i guess it's a personal one but It's a good, it's a funny story. So when I was racing for Cadillac in a Delara, the Delara simulator was indie, and I'd spend lots of time there, and the seat in there was super uncomfortable. And one day, like, my butt was so sore, like, shooting sharp pains. And people are going to get to really know me on this podcast. So, like, crazy pain, like, really uncomfortable.

And so I got home, and, like, I didn't want to tell, like, my dad's a big warrior, or something. There's no chance I'm telling him or I'm going to trade to the ER and they're going to be all up in there. And so I talked to my mom like, hey, who's our like, I think it's gastro something, doctor, something like that. And so I go see him and I'm like, hey, I've got these pains. And like, okay, yeah, well, come back Monday at 6 a.m.

And I'll have a look at you. And I'm like, okay, like, do I need to do anything? And I'll do this and this. And it'll be five minutes. I'm like, so like I don't have to be put under anesthesia or anything. I'll do it myself. It'll be really quick. You'll be in and out five minutes.

Like, awesome. Like, I don't want to, yeah, I don't want anyone else dealing with this or anyone else to know, obviously. And other than everyone else watching it out. So I get there 6 a.m. And I walk in and it's like a proper, like, medical facility.

I'm like, this is way more intense than I was expecting right off the bat. I thought he was just going to like take a peek down there and tell me what was happening. And so I go in and they instantly give me like a gown with like the open back and I'm like like this is already weird like I don't need this I was just going to drop my pants for the doctor I think and she's like okay I like take a seat I need to take your

vitals I'm like okay and she's like so who's driving you home today and I'm like no I'm driving myself it's like no but you have to have anesthesia for this operation I'm like no no the doctor said it's five minutes I'll be in and out I can drive home and she's like oh that's weird like we've never had that and I was like no I think I'm here for something different then because the doctor said it was fine. And he's like, okay, let me go check. So she's like, goes check with different nurses. And they're like, okay, like, yeah, I guess the doctor said this was okay. And I'm like getting worried. I'm like, okay. Like, I think it's okay too. And at this point, like, I've committed myself so much. You know, like when you commit something, you don't want to ask any questions.

Like, I definitely haven't asked enough questions to the doctor to know what I'm going in for here with what's happening now. Like, I'm wearing a gown. They're trying to give me anesthesia. And I think he's just going to take a look at my butt. And, uh, So they start rolling me down the, like a hallways in this nurse comes by. He's like, oh, we got a badass. Like, because I was awake. And I'm like, like, what the heck does that mean now? I'm like, you think, like, you think I'm sweating now?

Like, I was sweating profusely. Like, what is happening? Like, what are they going to do to me in there? And like, they roll me in. The word fund, though. We got a badass. So, like, they roll me in. And then there's, like, all sorts of.

to screens and there's four nurses and I'm like holy moly like this is something and they're like like all right roll on your side the doctor's about to come in I'm like okay I roll over and the doctor like normal conversation like hey Jordan like how's it going how's the racing going I'm like hey like I don't want to talk about my racing right now like just get like finish whatever's about to happen here and then this like nurse walks and oh oh jordan taylor oh you you're the race car driver I'm like oh my god Like, what are the chance of someone here recognizes a sports car driver? Like, this is just perfect. And so I roll over and they're like, okay.

So he's like, so this is going to, you're going to feel a little pressure. I'm like, okay. And he's like, so you watch that screen and that's the camera. And I'm like, oh my gosh, like they're putting a camera up there. So they put the camera in. I'm like, holy cow, this is a colonoscopy. And so like he goes in and I'm like, he's like, just watch the screen. I'm like, no, no, it's okay.

So I'm like, I'm sitting there, like, have you guys had one of these? Yeah. So were you awake? Okay, so no one's been awake. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You were not a badass. No.

No. I know there was an option, but I don't know if you should. So I'm like lying there on my side and like staring over there. And like at some point, like it gets, it must hit like a trigger point where it feels like you have to poop. Like it must be like some sort of sense or like something in your body. Like when it gets there, like you have to poop. And it gets there. I'm like, oh, my gosh.

I'm, like, holding on the railing. I'm like, holy cow, I'm about to poop all over this guy's hands. His hands are down there with this camera. I'm like, I can't say anything. Like, I can't, like, I'm just frozen. And I'm like shaking like this, like sweating and like trying not to poop. And he's like, and I'm like, the nurse must have noticed I was shaking. And she's like, are you okay?

And I'm like, is it normal that you need to poop right now? Is it a normal sensation? And the doctor's like, oh yeah, totally normal. Totally normal. She said, well, I think I'm about to poop. So he's like, all right, hold on. And he starts backing out. And he backed all the way out with the camera.

And I'm like, okay, well, I guess I don't need to poop anymore. He's like, well, everything looks okay. And there, you're good to go. And then I rolled out. And I was like, holy cow, I'm never doing that again. Never doing that again. And then like when I was, like, and then even when I was out of it, I went out to whatever like the post-surgery thing was.

Yeah. And a nurse comes to say, oh, you're awake. already that was quick and the other nurse like nope you was awake the whole time she's like oh my gosh oh yeah so i don't recommend that how do you find yourself in all these awkward situations unbelievable i just i guess i don't ask enough questions like i didn't ask the girl if she was married at first i didn't ask the doctor what i was going in for i just trusted him to say it was a five-minute look yeah it was horrific oh my gosh traumatizing didn't ask anybody if facebook has a helpline because that would have been that'd have been useful information yeah for sure

Holy cow. Wow. Man. That story also hasn't been told publicly. Oh, it hasn't? Oh, my God. There you go. Wow.

Get ready. Are we going to be able to watch an MSA race ever the same again? Yeah, he's a badass. He's a badass. You are, by definition, a badass, right? Wow, good for you. My God. Hey, what's the natural podcast transition from colonoscopy's feeling like to poop to racing?

Does anybody know that? We need to... Technically no. Nope. Got nothing. Nothing. What is Lava Lamp Life lessons? So that was kind of...

Like, that would be a Lava Lamp Life lesson right there. Like, always ask questions before. Is that kind of like between two ferns? Yeah. So like I had this like series on my Instagram where I did like Lava Lamp Life lessons. Like the first one was actually always, when you go into date someone, always ask them if they're married first. Oh yeah.

And then I had a few of those. Where is all this content? That's on Instagram. It still lives there? Yeah, still lives there. Like hashtag probably Lava Lamp Life Lassum, I think. You should think about a series, a YouTube channel. Yeah, I thought about a YouTube channel.

I mean, I do everything by myself. Like, everything that I film is just literally on my iPhone. And I usually just prop it up with some duct tape. You should work for a dirty movie. Well, you don't remember this, but you. I do remember. Yeah, we did a call, yeah. We had a phone conversation.

It was years ago. Yeah, I remember. My impression was you just didn't really want to be on the phone. Oh, really? I was probably sweating that day, too. I was like, holy cow. No, like, we hung up, I'm like, I don't think he's interested. I don't think he's...

Well, I think I was nervous because, like, usually everything I do is just off the cuff, whatever I want. I think when I have to, like, be planned to put stuff out, I was like, I don't know if I can perform on the spot. Like, if you need a video by Tuesday, like, I'm going to be stressed thinking of a video. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, holy cow, this might be too much for me. Like, I just do stuff as I do it. Yeah. I know, but that's all right.

I'll do. I just saying, like, all I'm saying is, is, like, something. So, Jordan, you have all these stories and all this great content, and it's just kind of you got to go find it, right? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. You need to put it in a spot for me. So people can go.

Hey, this is where it's at. Yeah. Watch it. It's brilliant stuff. It is. It's brilliant because you're so creative with it. And I think that it's not just that you're creative, but also there are most race car drivers, I think the common logic.

Forget race car drivers, athletes are too afraid to put themselves out there. That, you know, there's something. There's some of the fear of putting themselves out there. One of the things that we combat a lot with the young guys is they don't think that their life's interesting. Yeah. You know, and there's, even though we have these giant egos and we're trying to be cooler and every, you know, each other, there's a part of them that thinks, nobody's going to care

about this. Yeah. I'm not important, right? Yeah. What I do is no different, you know. And, but people do care. Yeah. I think that's why people like you so much

because you're so relatable to like the average fan. But he's the one that thinks that way, by the way. I also have a hard time like sharing because I feel I can, you know, before I think, man, this would be cool to share this. Yeah. And then I can think of 10 reasons why I should. And then I don't. Yeah, I have the same thoughts a lot of the time.

Yeah. But at the same time, like when I follow someone, like if I follow a race car driver, I'll probably unfollow them if they're only posting workout pictures or race car pictures. Like, I want to know who the guy is. You only get the workout pictures right before the Daytona 500. From the NASCAR guys?

They're all, every one of them is like, in the gym, season's coming. Unless it's to benefit, that guy must live in the gym. Well, yeah. There's a couple, yeah, like Stenhouse. Yeah, and a couple of guys are like legit in the gym. But then there's the other drivers that never go into the gym. But boy, before the Daytona 500, they're going to get a picture of them in the gym. Is that because?

Me too. Me too. I'm doing it too, guys. Is that because they got to get on the scale and have that number flash or just because they're just a brand. Ego? Ego, I got it. Like, I've been working harder than a year. I'm in there too, yeah. Yeah.

But you're good because, you know, you absolutely have to humble yourself. I mean, to tell that story right now, you could have probably thought, I'm talking about the colonoscopy. It could have been any of them. But you could have probably come up with 10 reasons why you probably don't want to tell this story on it. But yet you humble yourself to the point in your life. laugh at yourself. Yeah. And that's what I think

most people are too afraid to do. Don't you agree? Yeah. I like, I like sharing it because like, I even, I told my girlfriend last time, like these are some of the stories

I think I'm going to tell. Like, if I, if I need to, I'm like, and I told that story. She's like, wow, like that's pretty bold that you tell that.

And I'm like, but like if I heard someone else tell that, like if I heard like a driver or an athlete or someone tell that story, like holy cow, like I can, I probably can't relate with that story.

Like most people probably can't relate to that story, but like that's a normal guy's problem. Like that's not a race car driver's problem. Like a race car driver's problem is going to be like, holy cow, I got a bad day at the racetrack. Yeah. Which no fan can relate to.

But a driver going to have a surprise colonoscopy, like that's an everyday problem. Like someone else has probably done this situation. And I think I would respect a guy telling that story just so I can relate to him and be like, that's a normal guy. The fact that you can pivot to see that perspective and appreciate that and then turn back and know that it's okay

to tell it is pretty rare, unique. I think a lot of people just only see their own concerns about it, right? I'm not going to post it because I'm worried about this. It's definitely embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. Yeah, but like, who cares? Yeah. Well, we've told some embarrassing stories on ourselves here.

I think it, you know, you also, do you also sort of like kind of like growing the mullet, like the more, you kind of inch further out there into that, into that vulnerable space, more and more with each story, you know? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, for sure. With that story, I just got told right there, that's probably a new limit. That one's probably going to be hard to talk from like an embarrassing point of view, but I do think like I am becoming more, like I would never have told that story. Yeah, a couple years ago, no chance.

Yeah, that's pretty interesting. Certainly not without the mullet, right? Why is this, did Chase Elliott block you? What is this about? Yeah, I don't know what that deal is. I could pull it up right now on my Instagram. He's blocked you now? You blocked? Oh, I mean, I can't even see him on Instagram.

Yeah, like usually if someone blocks you, I think, you can't even, like, search their name. They won't come up. And his name won't come up. We're looking at our social media person and she's saying, that's true. Yeah, if they have you blocked, like, you can't see anything, like, at all. It's a great question. Did you and him have an interaction that didn't go well? I can't remember one.

Did you do something? I remember something must have happened. You even. I mean, yeah, I helped, I kind of helped him last year. I saw a video where Rodney Sandstorm even did a Napa. I did. Yeah, because I worked with him. the Chevy Sim last year before the Daytona Road course. I did a day or like a couple hours

with each Hendrick driver before the road course. And so I thought we had a great interaction there. And he went on and won there. So I made the video. And then this year at Daytona, I was like, I noticed people tagging him and I didn't think he had Instagram. I saw people tagging him in it. So I was trying to click his name. And I couldn't click it. So I tweeted out like, hey, I think Chase Elliott blocked me. And he tweeted back like, hey man, I don't think so or something. And I'm like, hold up, Dale, are you doing what I think you're doing? Yeah, I'm asking. He's asking.

I knew it. I saw him, he went right to his phone and he started typing, and I'm like, you're about to ask Jake. We're about to find out what happens. He never goes to his phone without a proper good reason. Now I'm nervous. Something must have. He might respond. He might not.

Yeah. He probably doesn't even have Instagram on his phone. What? Well, where else do you have it? Well, no, I mean, he might have, you know, most of his Instagram stuff is all Hendrick-driven. Sponsor. Yeah. So maybe, maybe somehow.

some way, maybe someone of his guys didn't like me. Oh, yeah. Boy, that'd be something. Maybe Rick Kendrick. Maybe he says not that I'm aware of. Maybe, maybe, oh, well, tell him to do something about it. This is a big deal. This is a big deal.

Dude, George's been going to therapy trying to understand what he did wrong this last time. He's going to be like, why am I checking my Instagram for you right now? Right. You probably woke him up. Oh, my God. He's probably at the gym. He may be, yeah.

Ice and a chick. I sort of want to just kind of sit here and wait until he's... It's... Okay, I got a question that while we wait on this. Did you... I've never asked Dale this, because I knew this day would come. Was there a chance that Jordan was going to run

for junior motorsports at a road course one time? No. No. I think we were close. Homestead. Oh, Homestead? No, we were going to do... Do you.

No. Me and you... We were talking road... Oh, yeah, yeah. I was going to say it's becoming... I knew why it never happened. We were talking about different tracks. Hey, I thought the homestead thing was closer to reality than anything else we ever talked about.

You thought the road course is going to happen. Yeah, I was talking to someone here, and I thought it was pretty close. I thought the homestead thing was close. Anyways, so I think he's a wheelman, and he, you know, obviously. So, you know, the road course guys, it's definitely harder for the road course guys to come in now. Everyone's elevated their game. For sure. but well no but not not exactly i mean when we were talking our cars were super good and you would

have probably showcased that really well but when i think about crossover i mean i you know of course i'd love you to drive our car at a road course to be right but damn you know i'd like i know you'd rather probably run an oval yeah right you're your road coursin as it is you don't need to do that right so if you're trying to get into a exfinity car or a stock car you're probably like curious about the oval side And I wanted to, he says he can't search you either. You blocked him! Weird.

Oh. Could you block him? Should I look? Yes. Yes. We might solve this unsolved mystery. You can't, if you can't even search him. Yeah.

Can you, is there a section where you can see who you've blocked? Yeah. Oh, boy. This would be a big twist. This will be a big twist. Like settings? Yeah. Maybe the Russians blocked him.

Oh. As long as they don't have. have nudes of cheap. Maybe they sent nudes of you to chase, and he's like, free. This is too much. Blocked accounts. How many of you have? I've actually got a few.

Oh, yeah. I've got no Chase. Anybody that we know that you've bought? No. You don't have to say who. Just say yes or no, that there's people that we would know. No, not on here. Weird.

That is weird, man. All right. Well, maybe if you logged in on a web browser, you might be able to have some more tools at your hands to figure out what's going on there. Let's get back to him in your car. Oh, yeah, we will. Okay.

I was like sitting here waiting for it. He's always a seat. Yeah, I mean, I think an Oval would be cool, but a crazy challenge for someone like, yeah. Yeah, but damn it's worth taking. So actually, I went to I went to see Jim Campbell. Actually, I called him.

I think the season was kicking off for you guys. There's a lot of, you know, y'all, maybe I just won the 24-wire race. I don't know why. No, you hadn't been a Chevy guy. I saw, was it when I saw you at the Daytona 500 with Jim Campbell? I don't know. Yeah, maybe.

Started it. But either way, I was, this was four or five years ago. I called Jim and I said, hey, we need to get Jordan in our Xfinity car. And I thought he would be like, great idea. We'll make it happen. Let's do it. Yeah. Put his name on the car.

We'll figure it out. And, but it was not, it wasn't quite that way. It didn't go that way. And I was like, damn it, you know, you're still young, but I'd love to see what you're, just to hear your thoughts, you know, you get, you know, if it's a road course, great. Maybe that's probably the best route to take is to get behind the wheel, one of the cars at a road course and just kind of understand the weight and the throttle

and the power. And then when you go to an oval, it's not because there's no practice and all that. Maybe it's not such a shock. Yeah, so foreign. Yeah, I feel like it would be so foreign, running up close to a wall, like we're staying away from the walls when we're driving. But my hope and. And I still hope today that you get that shot.

And if we could ever make that happen, that'd be amazing. But, yeah, we tried really hard. Me and you went at it pretty good. And it got to the point to where we were having internal conversations here in the office about, you know, people that were interested in trying to help us finance that one-off deal, you know, and it just didn't work for whatever reason. But it was very frustrating because I was wanting to make it happen. happen because I don't know man I thought I've thought I've told you you know before but I think

the world of you and I think that you're you know I told Jim and other people too I'm like you know we starve for personalities here is like this guy's oozing personality like he's got enough personality for 10 drivers and to that we should try to if he's interested in stock cars and we should try to you know see if we could get him behind the wheel but I think it'd be a big deal yeah one day it would be cool just to get a taste of our thing just to see what I mean What is your interest? Like from 1 to 10, how much are you burning to get into a stock car? I mean, the road course was like a 10, for sure.

Okay. That was like I really wanted to do that. I feel like the driving style of it, like suits my driving style. I like a big heavy car with a lot of power and no down force. That's kind of like what I grew up doing in GT racing. The Oval, I think Jeff Gordon, when he was my teammate, kind of scared me a little bit, just kind of explaining how technical it is. And obviously I knew it was going to be technical,

but the way he explained it, like you guys are racing, like the kids growing up were racing every week on ovals. They have such a good understanding of it. And like Kyle Larson now is winning every week on ovals and like to think that someone could just jump in and be remotely competitive with someone like that on an oval, I don't know, it's hard to imagine to be anywhere close with no experience, I'd say.

Yeah, it'd be very difficult. Yeah. So with no experience and not any opportunity to test or practice, it would be, that's definitely. a barrier that didn't exist in the past. There's new barriers, I guess, that make it even more difficult. Like Jimmy, I mean, you know, we watch Jimmy in the IndyCar,

and I know he's talented, I know he's, and he's going to work his guts out to figure it out. Eventually, you know, he's starting to start, you know, there's starting to be some glimpses of him sort of getting it figured out. But, man, I don't think anybody expected him to struggle as much as you can, but it's the reality of how difficult this is. It's a leap. Like, you guys grew up every week driving ovals.

those guys grew up driving go-karts, open-wheel cars. The other thing, too, I think, that we forget in motorsports is your level, you know, the MSA, IndyCar Cup Series, you know, even other series to a point. That's the elite. These are the best drivers in the world, right, at this craft, you know. And we kind of think, I think we take that for granted, like, oh, I can get in there and just take off. Yeah. You know.

What was it like when you did? Rolex. Terrifying. Yeah. So the Rolex in the Corvette, that was really the first time I drove somebody else's cars. So I've been driving my dad's cars. There's no job security. I always felt bad about that because I was friends with these other drivers and I'm watching them like work every day trying to like keep their job, right? And I'm like, well, I don't have that problem. I don't have to worry about that. And when I went to drive the Corvette, I didn't like it. I didn't like that feeling that, man, if I break this, it's not mine.

It's not, I don't have to go get my butt chew by dad. This belongs to all these people that I don't even know. I'm sharing this car with drivers I don't really know. Of course, Andy Pilgrim and Collins, they were amazing. And me and Andy are super great friends even today. It was different, man. It was really different. I mean, that car was, I think the guys still talk about those old GT1 cars.

Yeah. For us, like the car that I drive compared to what I drive, like they had huge horsepower and like big tires, big brakes. Yeah. So, yeah, we went to Sea Bring. I'd never been there. That's a different animal, isn't it? Yeah, they were going to test.

We're going to drive the car, get used to it. So we go and me and dad, and I was, you know, I was, every time I got in the car, I was just like, got to be top of the board, you know? And dad was much smarter and he's like, I'm going to just cruise. I'm going to learn. I'm going to experience and I'm going to drive this car all day and soak and soak and soak up, right? And he never pushed. And I mean, I was out there.

First time I got on the track, I was on. I didn't know the tires were as tough as they were. The cold tires. Yeah. So like for a lap and a half, this thing is like on ice. Yeah. And our cup cars, man, they're, you know, the best time is right away. Yeah.

You know, as soon as you hit the track, you've got massive grip. and it just starts to tail off from there. And these cars, it comes in over time. And I didn't know that. They could tell you that, and I still wouldn't understand it, right? I couldn't respect it. Yeah. I get out there, and I throttle it up out of three, headed toward the bridge, and backed it into the bridge.

Oh, gosh. Dude, I felt like I was going 35 miles an hour. You probably were. And when it's crazy. When it turned around, it never slowed down. And it goes, and I'm like, I've just killed. First lap. Yeah, I've just destroyed it.

Destroyed this car. Backed it all the way. way into the seat. And I get out and I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm going to, dad's going to be so embarrassed, right? Yeah. Oh, I've told the story before, but it's still, it's still nerve right here. My broadcast team, my broadcast brain always says every time you talk, you tell that you got a new audience.

So I, um, go over to the pits, you know, and you know this, but they come out of this hauler with these giant black bags, zipper. Yeah, body work. I'm like, what's in the bags? They're huge and big as this table. And they unzip them and there's a brand new car. And they're like, clip, clip, clip, clip, okay, 15 minutes. They're like, hop back in.

I'm like, you sure? You want me to get that? I'm just the one that tore it up. You don't want dad to go and a couple of other guys to drive it. Maybe I need to sit here and think about what I did. Like I'm being punished. Think about the decisions in your life. Yeah.

They're like, no, no, no, go, go, go. And, you know, dad's not standing there going, hell no. Sit your ass down. Think about what you did. That's awesome. So I hop back in there and got back to it, man. But it was a great day. And we went to the race.

Everything went great in the race. Testing, practice went, everything uneventful for the most part. Funniest story. I used to smoke cigarettes. I hit it from everybody. I thought, you know, I thought I was hiding it from everybody. But I smoked a lot. And especially when I play video games or drive a car,

I just one after the other. and so 2001 this is probably I'm 24 or 26 20 oh 27 something like it I don't know mid 20s yeah so uh dad had seen my ashtray in the house never smoked around him I knew that'd get me an ass whoop whoopin he hated it and I knew he hated it from how you reacted around other people that did it but he'd walked in the house and I couldn't get it hid right and so he's seen it before so he kind of knew that I was I was smoking and didn't know how much. But I'd never done it in front of me,

never seen me with a cigarette. Never seen me with a pack of cigarettes, right? And so I never drove a race. I've always worn an open-faced helmet, right? So we got full-faced helmets. The helmet's right there, that yellow one. Oh, yeah. So we got the clip in for the drink, right?

The electric drink. I've always just taped the tube and, you know, no electricity pumps. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And I had to, that thing and I'm we're getting ready to as I got a friend with me in the bus I'm in my bus we're getting ready to go out dad's like my my friend's my PR guy he's like hey your dad wants

you to come to pit road I'm like man I'm not getting in the car till another five hours he's like this is during the race before the race started he's like he wants you to come to pit road for a picture on it on the grid I'm like all right cool I'll go and so we're getting ready to go and he's like yeah they're going to come by and pick us up on golf cart and I'm like okay and I'm nervous right so I'm like I'm like expose expanse him all I'm like I'm pushing out all this nervous energy right so I've come standing in my bus and I put that helmet on and I stuck a cigarette in that little thing where the drink goes and I'm standing right at the door of the steps and I'm doing this dance I'm like hey look at me

look at me man look at the cigarette it can smoke no way yeah through the drink on the front. In there. Just, you stuck a cigarette in there? Yes, it fits right in there. I mean, why don't I know that? That's got to be the only time that's ever happened. Not lit.

It's just, I've just stuck a cigarette in there. I'm like, check it out, man. You can smoke wearing this helmet to my buddy. Right in that moment. I'm sweating now. The dad opens the door. Oh, my God. He looked straight up in there at me, and I turn, and I'm like,

and I've got a helmet on with a cigarette sticking out of it. And we're getting ready to start the 24 hours of Daytona. This corvette thing, right? It's a big day. What did you say? Surprise. He slammed the fucking door. He slams the door shut.

Oh, my God. My freaking eyes were as big as sand dollars. And I pull this helmet off and I sit it down and my buddy's like, we better go. We go out and the golf cart sitting there and dad's sitting on the front of it. He's got the driver. And he's steaming. Like smoke coming out of his ears You want to him look at me

We sat on the back And we go, we're riding In the infield of Daytona Head toward the grid And if we go about 100 yards And my buddy just starts snickering And dad turns around and goes Don't encourage him

I remember that He was so mad We get to the grid And you know so much is going on It kind of gets forgotten We take a picture Oh my God So if we're keeping

score at home. Your dad said, you're not ready for this. Yours said, don't encourage him. Daytona stories. Mid-race, right? Middle of the race,

they gave us those, I had a broken shoulder blade from a wreck a year or two ago, and it always bothered me. Flying on airplanes and all kinds of stuff, I always had a bunch of pain

in that shoulder. And we're racing the car, and my shoulder's killing me. They were like, hey, man, take this little left. thing. I'd never had one. You guys use them all the time now. You see them all the time where that you can strap these little diodes, cake little cords to you, and you could turn this little

thing up. Oh yeah. It pulses, yeah. It pulses, but it's an electrical current. It's a tens unit. Huh? Tens unit. Yeah. And it makes your muscles flex, right? And so, I'm like messing with that thing. I'm like, wow, oh, that's too much. That's too high. You know, I'm like, God, this thing goes really high. Like it's way, it can go, it goes, it shouldn't go that out. And so I take it off and me and my buddy in the bus, I'm like, dude, check this out. And so I put it on his hand, on the backside of his hands right at his knuckles.

And I just wrapped that thing up. And it tried to bend his fingers back. Oh, man. Oh, my gosh. His fingers like, his fingers like shrunk up like that. And he yanked it off as fast as he could. he was so mad at me. Yeah. Because I did that.

That was such a jerk. You did a lot of relationship. I mean, the race is like midnight. The midnight is going on. And we're in here, we're in here goofing off like a couple of idiots. And they're like, hey, you want to massage? I'm like, nah, we're in here playing.

All the people say you never take it. I can't sleep. How do you sleep? That's true. The first time you do it, it is like that. You cannot sleep. They're like, okay, go, go chill. You're good for about six hours.

And you're laying there. You're like, ah. This is amazing. Jeez. Yeah, I was going to say all those people that tell you that you never took your career too seriously, I don't know where they would come up with that. It sounds like you didn't have a great time, though, with a cigarette thing to that. I did.

Gosh, that's so funny. And then I went run again with Tony Stewart. Yeah, in 2004. This was a, yeah, this is a heart. In the Crawford? Yeah. The Crawford. Until you led all the way to the, yeah.

So that was, yeah. Definitely took that experience a lot more serious. and I didn't have dad or any sort of safety net or insulation, right? And Tony, right? Got Tony, he's pushing you. Tony Stewart. Yeah, Tony Stewart and Andy Wallace. All those people, Crawfers were great.

So I'm even more outside of my comfort zone driving someone else's car. But they were amazing. And I'll never forget this one. This is a little sad. But I have, you know, I cried when dad lost races when I was a little kid. when that car broke and the race kind of ends, the amount of sorrow and sadness that I witnessed from that team and the Crawfords was, I'll never forget it.

They were heartbroken. It wasn't it like 20 minutes to go or something? Yeah, take us back what happened exactly? And y'all are winning? Yeah, so when a part breaks on a car, every driver runs through their mind and what they did inside that car. that might have played a role in that. I was dry, I pulled out on the racetrack in the middle of the night.

I love driving at night. I love driving in the rain. There's tons of rain for that. Oh, man. So we're running. Actually, I remember that year. Yeah, they stopped it. While I was driving, they stopped the race.

So it's pouring. And in the trench from the oval onto the road course at the end of pit road, man, it's, everybody's hydro planning. I went straight down toward NASCAR one, just spinning like this. It's leading the race. Two lap lead or something, right? And I'm spinning backwards past the entrance to the infield. And I turn around, come back up the track and turn in.

And that's when they threw the caution and the red flagged it. I was like, man, I can't. You can't go through that part of the track. You just can't. And so the cars turned into boats. But it was wild. Middle of the night, I come out of the infield section up on the NASCAR 1, and I throttled up like you do a million times, and I spun the car.

And we just put tires on. and I spun the car up the hill and then I'm on the banking almost out to the wall and I spun it down and it contact the right rear contacted with the apron like when the car spun down the hill first thing that gets to that you know that really aggressive transition was the right rear tire and so when the car breaks on the right rear suspension the upper broke I was like I was like I think I might have been the one that so it didn't broke it didn't break that no that was like 12 hours in the race so it later in the race it breaks and I'm thinking man maybe my spin and hitting the hitting the bank you know coming down it could be well I go to Tony and I said I said man

I think I broke the car I might have broke the car I think I spun it he said I did the same exact thing I was like when did you do it he's like sometime in the middle of the night I was like really I was like okay well I'll share the blame I was yeah I like that makes me feel a little less like I screwed that that was the only part about the 24 hour race that was hard for me was when you drive a car and you're the only driver and you make a mistake, I mean, yeah, you kind of, I had gotten used to dealing with that, used to dealing with, you know, facing my team after I've screwed up.

But how do you face other drivers that you're sharing the car with? Because they know what driving's all about, right? Yeah. You can't hide from it. But at the same time, like, they know your position, like, they can relate to it a little bit. I guess. Yeah, but Tony Stewart almost. Yeah. Maybe not tell your story.

I was, I told Tony, I was like, this is exactly how it spun, how it hit. And he's like, I did the damn same thing. Wow. And I was like, well, dang, maybe we both broke it. I don't know. Man, yeah. But I mean, same situation. Like, you could do that a million times and not break.

I know. Yeah. Well, that's crazy. It's cool to come close. Yeah. Yeah. That's a hell of a race. It is crazy.

You know? Yeah. All the traffic and the conditions. Yeah. Do you, do you like racing the 24th? hours more than the other events, or where does that rank in your enjoyment? Yeah, I enjoy the Rolex 24 a lot. Like, LaMaw is different.

LaMaw is like a different sort of intensity. Like, Daytona. LaMah scares a shit out of me. Yeah, it's just different. I mean, once you learn that you're at track, it's a normal track, but the way, like, those races are run, like in America, our races are run somewhat close to like a NASCAR race. You get a full course yellow. You get a wave by, those sorts of things.

In those races, there's no, like the full course yellow sometimes, come out, but they have three pace cars. So like if you're nose-of-tail with this guy and the pace car comes out between you, you get separated by a minute, like you never get that minute back. And then sometimes there will be a crash here and they'll freeze the race. So you'll just stay at the same distance. So like throughout the, like if you spin at Daytona and you lose 20 seconds, you're never going to get the yellow to make that back up. So like you always have to be pushing. You always have to be on. El-A. Yeah. And like Daytona, I enjoy because you're kind of pushing, but you can take less risk, save the car. And you're,

you know at the end there's going to be a race at the finish and you need to have a good car for it. And at least there's still going to be a bunch of cars racing. One of the things that I've noticed about the Daytona race and you've ran in it for many years is when I drove in it, they were like, hey man, you know, just you don't have to, you know, in practice, we're all out there trying to run within a couple tens of each other and everybody's pushing as hard as hell. But in the race, really, just run 80%. Don't even get close to trying to match those lap times or match that intensity or push. It's now qualifying laps every lap. Yeah. I don't like that either. So what I loved about going and running the race was that everybody,

all the pros, the road course guys, sort of backed up to me. Yeah, yeah. And I didn't feel so inferior. Yeah. But now the talent levels higher across the board in every single car and everybody runs hard as they can every single lap. Yeah, I mean, I'm the same way. Like, I enjoy the history of the sport.

So, like, I love how, like, you read the stories about how guys were saving cars, saving brakes, saving fuel, like, easy on the downshift, short shifting. And now it's like you just do whatever you want, and the car's, you know, a monster. It's never going to break a lot of the time. Yeah. And, like, I feel like in our sort of, in our form of racing in sports cars, like, the technology has obviously evolved and it's cool and everyone's pushing, but I miss that aspect of, like, a driver has to treat the car well and make it to the end. Yeah. I have that same feeling with NASCAR too. We don't have that much more.

There's no real tire conservation. There's no, you know, cars aren't breaking engines and having the random failures that East have and parts are bulletproof, everything about the car. The cool thing about NASCAR, though, is the stories that you hear about, like, going in the gray of the rules. And, like, in sports car racing,

it's a lot more black and white. And I like the creativity. Creativity. Cheating. Yeah. We love talking about that. Like we get, like, we've only, like, I've experienced, like, two things in sports car racing, like, where we've developed things that have then been, like, pulled off. But, like, those two things were, like, I love, I love them because, like, they were so cool and how we came up with them and what they did.

Want to share? Yeah, I can share them. Like, the first one was kind of a funny story as well. Like, when I was driving Camero, another weird kind of butt-related story. Wow. So, the team took the car to the wind tunnel and the exhaust. kind of came around from the front out behind the driver door and they're like all right we're going to cover the panel cover the exhaust outlet like all the way down less drag so it'll be

better I'm like okay great we were racing in barbara motorsports park it was hot Alabama summer and that car was a front engine so already hot and my teammate was Bill lester yeah so he started the race and he comes in the radio like 20 minutes and like my sole of my shoe has melted off like it fell off It was so hot. And I'm like, holy cow, I've got to get in there for two hours. So I jump in, and when I get in the seat, like, you know, when you, like, sit on something, and it feels like a sharp pain, like you sit on, like, a rock. So I sit in and I'm, like, shoot, like, there's a piece of gravel in here.

So I'm, like, driving down the pit lane trying to get it out before I, like, really buckle down. So I can't get it out. Like, sharp pain kind of goes away. I'm like, okay, I do the race. Like, it was so hot. Like, I pushed the drink bottle button, and it, like, burns all around my mouth. So it was, like, really hot. Get out after the race, and I go to sit on the pit wall.

And I sit down and I'm like, whoa. And I had two red welts on my butt cheeks because all the heat had come in. Because from the new awesome idea that we had to cover up the exhaust. Yeah. Where was, so I had to, I burnt my ass in a, in a, in a, in a, in a cup car one time because the, we had, uh, pipes, I guess the pipes came out both sides of this particular car or, or pipes came out under the driver or something. and I don't know what car it was, but the pipe touched the bolt.

Oh, man. And the bolt to the, all this heat transferred through the metal into the bolt under my ass. Yeah. Same, so the bolt burnt my ass. Yeah, I had the same exact thing. Oh, my God.

And I didn't know it. Like, you said, yeah. It went numb. You know it for like a second. I was in the car and it wasn't hot. I strapped in, start to race, run to race. And so the heat came in so slow. But once it got up to burn.

burning temperature. I didn't even know it. I get out and I got this like dent in my ass where it's burnt the meat off my butt. It was crazy. That hurt. Jeez. Burns are tough. Oh, yeah. Burns take forever. So, hey, we got just a few minutes. Is there anything that you wanted to? I've got some things. I mean, I got more than a few minutes. I know. We're going to get him. We're going to get him back. One is, I'm curious. I want to ask you about the Earnhardt helmet. Yeah. But before I do that, because we were sort of talking about your, you know, your M's career. Explain to new race fans, new sports car race fans like myself, the decision to leave the prototypes and the family-owned team

and go to the class to run the Corvettes for Team Chevy. Like, explain to us, because novice fans, how you come to that decision. Go from the top class, yes. Yeah, I mean, I guess from an outsider perspective, you see top class as prototype the fastest car, you're winning overall. Kind of when you're in the sport,

you kind of get an understanding of, what each class is. So like my class now at GTLM is supported by manufacturers. So GM and Corvettes run our cars. Corvette racing is run by Pratt and Miller. You know, the Porsche is run by Porsche from Germany. The BMWs are BMWs or BMWs. So like there's a lot of money, support and engineering behind these teams. And it's purely professional, like top of the grade. Like worldwide, it's respected in sports car racing. When you get to prototype, you know, you have the top teams that are like really top and then you have like a couple kind of feeder ones that are like you know trying to make it like drivers bringing money so if you get a like a gtlm ride like people will know in the sports car world like

he's a professional he's paid to be there the factory wants him um so my decision was actually when we started our careers ricky and i we didn't want to drive for our dad just because we didn't want the label of like uh like he got it easy so we kind of did it on our own and then when i went to my dad's team. Ricky and I were teammates for a while and we won, you know, Daytona, Sebring, the championship one year all together as a family. And once we kind of did that, I was like, we've done it all together. Like I'm happy with whatever I do from now on. Like, I did it with my family. That's the best thing that could ever happen. Right. You're fulfilled and there's new challenges elsewhere. Yeah. So like Ricky went to Penske to the following year, which was huge. Right. And then I was

a third drive with Corvette for a few years at LaMau. And then when they offered me a full-time drive, I was like, this is a big opportunity to kind of represent America, an American driver. There's only one other American driver in the team to represent the brand. Like when we go to LaMau, it was very special to me. It was a big deal for us. And I think for the casual fan, when you get to sports car racing, it's hard to kind of piece it together because there's a different GT class with amateur drivers. But once you kind of understand the sport, there's basically two professional classes

and two pro-am classes in the race. And I was, yeah, I was happy to go and have a new chat. The cars are way different to drive, to driver understanding how the tires work and how the traffic works. Like now I'm not passing guys. I've got guys passing me. So it's new challenges to kind of work on, and I like enjoy to work on little details of my driving styles and things. I mean, I have a hundred questions just about that, but also you mentioned Lamont that, and that's where you broke out this helmet, this Earnhardt tribute helmet, which I thought was just an amazing gesture. And I think that he talked a lot of water.

It's fine. It's all right. We have mobs here? We're fine. yet all right. Sorry. Sort of kill the moment, though.

It needs, the floor's a little dirty. It needs some water. Yeah, I don't want to say anything. Like, as Dale was saying, earlier, like you and your dad drove the car 20 years ago,

I drive the number three Corvette. I've always been a fan of you and your dad, and kind of growing up as a father's son as well. I always felt like a bit of a connection. So it's 20 years since you guys did it,

hearing the stories like you just talked about the Sebring test. Like I've heard stories from the team about like when your dad got there, like he sat everyone down and like, hey, my name's Dale. It's not Mr. Earnhardt. So like hearing those stories and like the legacy like meant a lot to me. So I wanted to kind of give it back and like there were stories about him wanting to go to LaMau as well and never got the chance. So like I wanted to take a piece of that as well. Like my first time going back as a full-time driver in the number three, 20 years later. So yeah, I asked, Dale was the first guy. I asked just to keep permission because I was like, I don't want to go anywhere near this if you wouldn't be a

fan of it. Yeah. Because it's, it's not my helmet, it's not my design, and it's your family's thing. So once you got the okay, I asked GM about using their old logos, which was difficult. I'm glad they okayed it because I think it came out really well. It's beautiful. Yeah, Mike Savage from Savage designs did it. And yeah, I was really happy with it. And the fans, like, loved it. So, yeah. It's beautiful. Thank you. I really appreciate any time a driver takes a minute to celebrate the past. I think it says a lot about a person's character when they can do that, and they take a moment to shine the spotlight, their spotlight, on something else,

and especially some of the people that have been a part of the sport. So it says a lot about you as a person to care enough to do something like that, to want to shine a light on dad's small part of being with the Corvette program. It did matter. It really, really meant a lot to him to do what he did with those guys. And you're right. He kind of had this vision of doing Lamar or racing with Corvette some more over the next couple of years.

You know, he didn't really ever get ramped up over too much, you know, get too excited about, you know, something outside his box. and but the Corvette was something he certainly was proud of so I appreciate you just even thinking that's cool yeah of course I'm gonna leave it with you as well really yeah I'd like you to have it

I feel like you should have it I mean I feel like it was an honor to wear it it honestly felt super special and like emotional yeah but I think it belongs to like an Earnhardt you get a like a driver medallion yeah and it'll go with it as well

that's so awesome and it was kind of ironic that we finished second as well, just like you guys did, which wasn't great, but like, it kind of made sense. Yeah. Don't tell it to you. Dude. You're the man. No, thank you.

So listen, I'm going to tell you. So I'll tell you what I told somebody gave one of, I'm a huge fan of the Washington football team, and one of the players that I'm quite a big fan of gave me a used helmet that he wore in 1984 through the whole season. Yeah. And he's got some, he's got children. And I said, hey, look, I tell you what, I'll take the helmet. I'll take care of it as if it was mine,

but if you ever want it back or anybody and your family ever wants it back, this is where they can come to get it. So we'll do the same thing. I'll take care of that thing like it was my own. If anybody, if you or anybody ever wants to borrow it or come back and take it, it's here. Thank you. I appreciate it. So we'll share it.

Yeah, that sounds good. All right. Yeah. Jordan, if you come back for it and he's got a cigarette plugged in the car. Oh, yeah. Actually, yeah. Are you going to slam the door? Here's your cigarette for it.

there. It's not going to work. I'm not going to quit. I'm a quitter. Yeah. Monoton smoker. I'm so happy. Don't encourage him.

Yeah. Another thing too, like we always have, we would hope that this show we can continue to do this for years to come. And if we're lucky enough to do that, that'll be amazing. But we got to get you to come back. We didn't, you know, you've got, we talked, we tapped into maybe 100th of who you are and what makes you. so cool and so great and we've got a lot that we didn't get to talk about so we'd love to get you

to come back i don't know how often you come through north carolina but yeah since pratt and miller has the sim here i imagine you're here at least a couple times a year yeah yeah yeah i'd love to come on i had a great time i really appreciate you guys i really appreciate you guys i listen to the podcast and watch the videos so that's been cool to be here well this podcast checked a big box to get you here and have you here buddy so we appreciate you thank you jordan taylor on the dale Junior download. Man, that's awesome. So much fun. I'm soaked, but that's okay.

All right, we are live. All right, everybody. This is Dale Jr. with the Dale Jr. with the Dale Jr. download. My co-host, Mike Davis, with me. You are obviously tuning in to see the Ask Junior part of the show. You guys have sent your questions into AdExfinity Racing on Twitter. And Leah is here to to, I guess, pick the ones that she liked.

And the ones I think you'll like. Yeah, and she thinks that we'll like. Go ahead, Leah, let's hear these questions. All right, first question from Todd Burke. Enjoyed the whoop live info we got over the weekend at Daytona. What track do you think we'd see drivers BPM up on the chip all race long? You know, it's interesting because we had the whoop data for Algar, and I don't want to pick on him here, and this isn't meant to pick on him,

but we had his data and his max heart rate was like 190. Then we had Denny's and his max was like 120. He was hovering around 90 most of the race. And I've seen the heart rate from some drivers that share with that information on social media. And it's like, you know, Jay Murray would run in the 130s most of the race. So this, I think, could be data that would be interesting, not only to the fans, but to teams, to owners, to coaches, obviously, like Josh Wise, people like that. They would love to have this information to be able to help their drivers control their heart rate,

bring it down maybe. What are some of the things? Like, you know, Justin can perform when races, but does he need to do it at 190 beats per minute? So is there a way that Josh Wise and those guys can find ways for drivers to get a bit of control over that? Also, think about the cool under fire part of that. Does that mean maybe a guy like Denny? Denny's great at the plate races. Heart rate's really low.

Maybe, you know, it's that confidence that he has while he's driving around there, that there's nothing that I'm going to see here that's going to surprise me, right? Maybe it becomes this sort of attribute that people take into consideration when they're thinking about whether a driver has an edge over another one. I don't know. It remains to be seen. I just always imagine that if we start getting this type of information, teams are going to find a way to engineer it into something, right?

They're going to find a way to turn that useful information and make it mean something, right? Make it, make it be an answer to a question, right? So that's kind of the one, the things that I guess I'll be following up on. I guess, you know, the, the whoop thing is, you know, they're a new partner with NBC and I'm sure we're going to be seeing more of this throughout the rest of the year. It's pretty, pretty unique to have that information. And we'll see how the drivers react. And that heart rate's a good, I think a good signal to the stress that they're under, right?

and whether they are, I would imagine like when you get three wide and you're in the middle, three wide at Daytona, yes, you're nervous, you're worried, you're watching these guys around you. Somebody might make a mistake. The heart rate's going to go up and it's pretty interesting to be able to watch that happen and anything that can remind us, this is intense. This is hard and this is stressful is a good thing. Next question from Jason Groff. What's another race who would like to? to watch along like he did on Friday night? I don't really, I mean, you know, the Winston All-Star Race from my rookie year,

there's a lot, you know, that would be fun to watch. It doesn't even have to be a race that I ran, you know, at 1979 Daytona 500 would be so fun to voice over on television. So there's a bunch of races. I mean, there's a giant catalog of races that would be fun to sit down and chat over. just could we I know we did that the other night with the 2001 race

at Daytona during the rain delay but if we did it again even if you know would we be is it still as good right is it still we had a live audience captivated tuned in to watch a race they got something else they liked it

but it was like Christmas morning going downstairs and open up the present not knowing what it is right I don't know if we can recreate that same sort of magic that that was that was what we had that night so you know if we said hey we'll do a series and put it on peacock tv you know is it as fun to watch is it as fun to consume that way i would have to you know would we have as much engagement and success i i don't know i don't know if it'd be as fun to watch in a chunk right or as if we could put you know pull it out of the cloud and go okay

I'm going to watch this right now. This is fun. It's more fun. It was more fun that night because you knew hundreds of thousands of other people were watching it also. There was engagement on social media. You were part of the conversation just like this right here, right? This is why this is the best part of the podcast is because we've got a live audience that we're talking to and talking with, right? And so that's why that worked in that moment when we watched the 2001 July when we went.

I think personally that we should have these opportunities in the queue for a rain delay. And do it that way. Fans, you know, rain delays are frustrating for fans. They're frustrating for everyone at the racetrack, drivers, the industry, everybody's frustrated when the rain comes, right? Or a lightning delay, right? We're all frustrated by that. and so if we had this in the queue each week as hey man it sucks that we're here with this rain delay

but we got this thing we do at least there's that right it seemed like that was that was very pleasant for a lot of people this past weekend was yeah the rain delay sucks but we got you know we're doing something neat and fun and unexpected so so everybody was cool right and we hung out know, the broadcast team stuck it out and stayed up there until the end of that, that race was, you know, that 2001 broadcast was over. So, you know, maybe that's where it lives. Maybe NBC can figure out a way to have a few things queued up. So when we do have the next rain delay, we fall right into the line and, you know, we talk over a pretty fun race. And I could do that over any race.

And you not know what's in Q. Yeah, not know what's in the Q. Yeah. Surprise us all. and everyone who's plugged in, tuned in, the broadcasters, everyone gets to experience this together. That's what made it so fun. So I was sitting there in that broadcast booth and I knew I was doing this with a lot of people, right? If you stick me in a studio and have me in the guy's voiceover a race while nobody's tuned in that moment,

it's not as fun for us. And I don't know if it'll be as fun to consume solely, individually, right? Like you just go home and watch it by yourself. Not as fun. So my boat is rain delays. We'll see. All right. Next question from Brent Scott.

A great episode of Lost Speedways at Daytona Beach between what is left there in old footage. Is it enough to at least approximate the course to recreate an iraicing? Then scan a Hudson Hornet from the Hall of Fame or something. Oh, wow. We're diving in deep, man. That would be a very big undertaking for the irasin group, not impossible. I know the answer to that. I talked to Steve Myers about that.

It is very possible that they could recreate that. Man, that would be insane. Yep. I was talking to him about that last week. That should be their next goal. Daytona Beach course Hudson Hornet. While speedways. Yeah.

All right, we have one more. It'd be expensive, but it would doable. Yeah. If it broke even, it's good. We're trying to break even here. I'm kidding. I don't know. I think that would be a great deal.

You had to break even and have that on there. All right. one more iraicing related question from Mike Nitty. Can you please share some tips or tricks for saving tires and understanding the tire model and irasing for new members? I seem to burn up the right front in the NASCAR legend series faster than most. Okay. Saving tires and irasing.

Try to run as much rear brake as you can. When you mash your brakes and you have front brake bias or a lot of front brake bias, it's going to build heat and temperature and air pressure and the right front tire. or the front tires. It's going to work those tires more. So try to run as much break to the back as possible. Obviously if you're trying to avoid crashes, you're going to spin out when you touch the brake pedal. But yeah, so running a lot of front brake will hurt the right front. Steering input is the main thing. So, and this takes a while to learn. How do you go around the same corner fast with less

steering wheel? You know, so one of the ways to do that is to jack up this steering, ratio, steering box ratio. So run a bigger box. Like if they allow you to run a 16 to 1, but the stock setup has a 12 to 1. I run a lot of fixed setups series. So you go into the race, the setups determined you can't adjust anything. You can change the steering box. If I can make the steering box bigger, I do that.

So go to the biggest steering box you possibly can, so that's going to turn the wheel less. And so obviously physically turning the steering wheel in the corner, don't turn it more than you need to. And you just have to run a lot of laps to understand that, okay, now I'm going, I'm turning it too far. This is unnecessary for me to go from, you know, three degrees to five degrees of steering input. And so if it takes only three to go around that corner, only three is all you need to use. Don't be working the wheel and fighting it like you're trying to drive a real race car and you're, you know, Fireball Roberts in there. Just, you know, figure out, okay, it takes this much steering input to get this car through the corner and if I don't overdrive the car I won't need

to use more wheel. All right a lot of times if you're driving the car too far into the corner too deep, you crank the wheel more. All that stuff right there is going to burn the tires up. So back the corner up meaning lift earlier, you know, let the car roll into the corner easy. Just give it just the amount of wheel necessary to get through it while running a relatively competitive lap time. You don't have to be the fastest on the board. Just get yourself somewhere in the top 10 or somewhere in the top 15. And just do that with the steering wheel lap after lap. And you'll see you'll use less right front tire.

And the guys that are not doing that are going to burn it up and you'll go buy them. All right. That's it. That's the secret. Hey, you know, it's a fun part of the show. The Ask Junior segment is one of my favorite only because you guys are tuned in and we get to do this together. And it always goes by too fast, Mike.

Not as fast, though, Dale, as Xfinity X-Fi. Yeah. Well, X-Fi is more than just fast. It's also reliable and powerful, and that means everybody gets to do more of what they love with that fast Internet. Yeah, everybody, y'all need to keep your questions coming because this is a lot of fun.

Some good ones this week. Go to Add Xfinity Racing on Twitter, and we will read the ones that Leah is impressed with. You know, don't make her mad now. Yeah. Impressed me. Well, if you're unsatisfied with your service provider, you're just looking for a new provider. Try Exfinity.

Think about what they've done for this sport across the board. They put so much into supporting NASCAR, you know, not just the Cup Series, Xfinity Series. And I've got, you know, I pay for their product. I'm a paying customer for Xfinity service, and I'm extremely happy with it and would recommend it to any of y'all. So check it out, and we appreciate you, Xfinity. They're a proud premier partner of NASCAR. Last call.

All right, y'all, last call, 355. Episode, 355. The latest episode of, I can't even do this. Glorious white knuckle, God, fear, and spun out race, you mess me up. Glorious white knuckle, Godfearing, spun out, and half turned over racing stories, All right. You know what you need to do to sell this podcast is to get the people that are listening to it to send you little clips of them saying the name of the podcast.

You should just cut that in to like 10 people saying it each word individually. Like each listener goes like glorious. Then the next person says the next line. The next person says the next word. And just splice it all together and there's your ad. Yeah, that's a great idea. And I got a lot of the great ideas. Andrew says that you know how we love our innovative stories on the download. This week's Glorious Racing Stories episode features the 1990 Winston Cup Championship

and the penalty that may have cost Mark Martin the championship. Dale Earnhardt won his fourth championship that season. 1990 was the closest Mark Martin ever came to a title. So that's this week's episode. I'm already. I'm pumped. These stories are impressive and they're as good as you're going to get when it comes to hearing about the history of the sport. and they're real.

There are real stories about some of the legends and some of the crazy things that happened in this sport. So let's hear what's coming up this week on Door Bumper Clear. Hey, Dale Jr. Download fans, Brett Griffin here. After our partner in crime, the one and only Dale Jr. himself is to the NASCAR hauler with us. And when he finally finishes talking, you need to make sure you listen to our podcast,

door bumper clear. That's right, Brett. T.J. Major's here in this week after Daytona, we discussed the wild finish of the regular season. Bubba Wallace's comments about working with teammates,

preview the playoffs in Darlington, and talk moving the car number forward in 2022. Yo, what's up? It's Freddy Craft, and it's time to start listening to our show. Like right now,

there's only like a minute and a half left of this show. Stop now, go to ours. Door bumper clear. Find us this week and every week on all major podcast platforms. Oh, okay, I like that. They didn't rag on us this week, Mike.

No, that's good. They know where they get the paychecks. Well, that and I went to bat for them. So, there you go. Now they know I got their back. Kind of were pals, I guess. We're best friends. Are you?

Yeah. You're just like that. The door bumper clear guys. Best pals. Best pals. So, I'm seriously, man, I'm going to slip in here one day and just join the show. Is that cool? Absolutely.

All right. Oh, man, that'd be fantastic. It's been them guys out. Well, I don't want. want to spend anyone out. Well, do it. No, we can be spun out. I did that once.

Really, it had been a major regret for me the rest of my life. Just once? Yeah. I did it to one guy. Spun them out? Yep. I think you've done it more than once. Well, I know one in one in particular.

Who was it? I think it was Stanton Barrett. You spun out Stanton Barrett. That's right. Yeah. Felt bad about it. Spun out Kyle Busch. We're good friends now.

Didn't mind that one, though, did you? Well, he had it coming. Stanton did not. I deserve it. Stanton didn't deserve it. He did have it coming. All right, y'all can watch the Dale Jr. download on NBC Sports Network this week on Thursday at 7 p.m. That's Thursday, 7 p.m., 4 p.m. Pacific, Central at 6 p.m.

In Berlin and Germany, it's 1 a.m. and in Singapore, 7 a.m. Got it. All right, everybody. Great show. Thanks for Jordan Taylor. What a interesting guy. And I can't wait. Honestly, I could have him back in here next week. 100%.

I really could. So thanks for him coming all this way from Florida to join the show. You guys have a great week. Darlington up this weekend. It's going to be a blast. I can't wait. And then we're going to Richmond. Mm-hmm.

Yeah. Gonna be driving that car. That's right. Can't wait. All right. You guys have a good week. We'll see you. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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