The Dale Jr. Download - 409 - Clash Overreactions; Jimmie Johnson's Back; Kevin Harvick's Retirement

Episode Date: February 7, 2023

As the green flag waves on season 11, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and co-host Mike Davis are back in the Bojangles studio for episode 409 of the Dale Jr. Download. With a new format in store for the 2023 seaso...n, which will see three episodes drop a week on Tuesdays, Wednesdays, and Thursdays, the gang decided to start things off with some Dirty Air.There was a lot to catch up on from the off-season, including the launch of some new Dirty Mo Media shows, personal events, and of course a preview of the upcoming year in Cup racing. Listeners can also expect discussion about: The first Download guest of the year The Clash in the Coliseum Dale’s next late-model event The return of Jimmie Johnson Kevin Harvick’s retirement Tuesday episodes will also feature the fan-favorite Ask Jr. segment, and this week listeners wrote in questions about: Dale’s recent experience during the NASCAR Hall of Fame ceremony How mechanics can get into NASCAR The possibility of a timed/endurance-style NASCAR race Off-season adventures at home Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 The following is a production of Dirtymoe Media. Deidah! Dealer Download... I'm back. The Dale Jr. Download, Tuesdays are going to be Dirty Air and Ash Jr. Who gives it? Not that moment. Yes.
Starting point is 00:00:29 No, no, no. Oh, yeah. You know, morning show style experience. I do. I didn't have a problem. And I don't have a problem with your opinion. I've literally been doing this every day for your entire life. I can't not think about it.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Hey everybody, welcome back to another season of the Dale Jr. download. I'm Dellenhart Jr., and with me is my co-host, Mike Davis. Season 11, man. Season 11. That's a lot of seasons. And this is episode 409. Is it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:12 All right, 409. On this great Tuesday, February 7, 2020, 23. We're going to do some dirty air and some ass junior today. Got a lot to get to. A lot happening in the offseason. A lot going on at the racetrack. over this past weekend at the Coliseum in the Clash. We're back in the Bojangles' Studio.
Starting point is 00:01:29 A couple little things are different. We got a new hood over here. Yes. This is a Dirty Moe Media hood made by Ryan Williams and the crew upstairs. Kind of like the winning hood off of Bobby Allison's Miller Buick. I think that was the 1989 Daytona 500, if I might be mistaken. Rain Man back in usual form here with his NASCAR history. Good to see.
Starting point is 00:01:55 Yeah, it's a good-looking race car. Yeah, it was. Iconic looking. That hood's cool. The other hood's gone. Going to auction off, right? I've got news on that. It's going to auction next Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:02:06 A week from today, it's going to be on the Dale Jr. Foundation. org website. It's going to be up there for a week. So the hood with all of the signatures from all of our guests, including Dales, it's all going to be on that hood, and it's going to auction next week. The Dale Jr.foundation. org, that's where you can go bid on it.
Starting point is 00:02:23 All right. So, anyhow, we got a lot to get to but first off we wanted to kind of explain what's going on this year we are branching out Dirty Mo Media is
Starting point is 00:02:35 creating a lot of new shows that L Junior download is going to change a little bit from what I think we've typically done in the past let's talk about the new shows first we got Denny Hamlin's show actions detrimental
Starting point is 00:02:55 The first episode went out this week early, and the door bump of clear guys were back to work. What's been, you know, Denny, we sit down with him and said, hey, man, what day you want to do this? This is, you know, he makes, you know, we set it all up. Everything's prepared for him to, you know, have a season and go for it, right? But we knew the West Coast weekends and other, you know, logistical things will be tough. First episode, right there out of the game.
Starting point is 00:03:25 gate, he's got to come all the way back from the Coliseum and, uh, and, and, and record a show. Yeah. So he was, uh, you know, he was greeted at the very beginning of this sort of, uh, new chapter for him with a bit, you know, one of the toughest challenges. No sleep, not feeling great. Yeah, not feeling great. It's an understatement. Yeah, he talked about that in the show, not sure exactly what was going on with him.
Starting point is 00:03:50 He's going to get checked out, you know, carbon monoxide, something he's bothered by, uh, from the race. And I don't feel bad sharing that because I think he discussed it quite a bit in the show. So if you want to know a little bit more about that and maybe get some updates on Danny, follow all these social media handles and so forth. But I'm sure he'll continue to be sharing with us about what's going on there. But anyways, his set is really awesome. I thought that, you know, looking forward to seeing the fan reaction on what Denny's going
Starting point is 00:04:18 to bring to us weekend and week out. Then we announced also yesterday. we announced that we're going to have a show with Steve LaTart, Dirty Moe Doe. That's right. I'm really excited about that. I've been a big proponent of this show
Starting point is 00:04:32 and trying to figure out what a show like this might look like for us came with a lot of challenges to be able to put together. I appreciate everybody at Dirty Mo Media. I mean, everybody's hustled this offseason to be able to get all this stuff together and launch it. So all of our, you know, myself and all the listeners and everybody involved should be super thankful for the team working so hard.
Starting point is 00:04:53 But Dirty Mo Doe with Steve LaTart. He's going to basically, you know, Steve is fascinated by gambling, the, you know, the odds. We talk all the time about it throughout the year. And he, you know, he helps, he kind of, I knew nothing about the over-under. I know nothing about the language that, the, what a better gambler. looking at. And so, anyway, he does. He's, you know, boy, they, you know, playing golf with his buddies and they're all over the top of that kind of stuff. And not just in, you know, obviously motorsports, but outside of motorsports. And he's going to sort of take us, you know,
Starting point is 00:05:40 through a year of, you know, what he feels like the good odds are. What are some good bets to make? And he already just sitting down with him before the first show, he was telling, me about some, you know, things you wouldn't think about, things that are so obvious once you hear him describe it, that to me sound like really, really solid bets that I think, you know, I think there are fans out there that would be curious to put a dollar or $5 on the line, right, and put a little skin in the game. Makes the race a lot more fun to watch. I know if I got a bet with a buddy or something on a football game, I'm more invested.
Starting point is 00:06:21 If I'm playing fantasy football and I got a player out there, I'm more invested, right? If I got money in fantasy football to, you know, dues paid or whatever it be, you know, you're more invested when there's, than just what the score, the final score is. And so Steve was telling me, I don't want to, you know, give it away,
Starting point is 00:06:35 but Steve was telling me a couple things about, you know, this Daytona 500 coming up. And some, some drivers are going to have these really favorable odds to either go over or under on their result. and, you know, there'll be some drivers that the odds will be bullish on or positive toward that probably aren't going to have great runs, right? And then last year, right? So I thought that was kind of fascinating.
Starting point is 00:06:59 I think he's going to really, for not just the betting fan, you know, say you don't want to bet. It's still a great way to understand the strengths and weaknesses of each driver. So, you know, say I'm not even betting on the race, I think it's a great place to learn who they think is going to have a great weekend and who won't. It's a heck of a way to prepare for the race. I mean, like, whether you don't even bet. You can listen to this podcast just as a preview to what's coming this weekend. I agree.
Starting point is 00:07:27 And so I thought that, I think it's going to do really, really well. I really do. And Steve's energy, just in the trailer that we released, he's made for this. Yeah. He's so analytical. It's a perfect fit. You actually understand why he was such a good crew chief, because how good and analytical that he is on every little thing.
Starting point is 00:07:47 He can't look at something and just appreciate the surface level. He has to know how it's built, what it's going to do next. He's so analytical about that. Also, you know, the couple of guys he got on the show, the professor, I work with that guy. So, I mean, we know these people. These people are integrated into our lives in different ways. So it's going to be a lot of fun to – I'm excited about this whole lineup. Let me say one more thing about that show, because I think this is important.
Starting point is 00:08:14 We're not sitting here trying to promote degeneracy, if that's even a word. We're trying to promote responsible. Responsible sports betting. I mean, Steve makes a point that he does it with a budget. He doesn't, he does it responsibly, very disciplined and does it for the entertainment purposes. And that is it. He's not trying to pay for a mortgage. He's not trying to sit there and pay off a car.
Starting point is 00:08:39 He's not trying to do any of these things. He has a limited budget. He does that. And he also doesn't bet on NASCAR, by the way. He's not going to be betting on the NASCAR. He's going to give all of us advice and pointers and insights and analytics into what we're going to see on the NASCAR race. Chopper and Professor might bet on the NASCAR race. But all of that stuff, we're going to learn so much just through this one podcast.
Starting point is 00:09:00 It'll drop on Thursdays every week. I only gamble when I go to Vegas, right? So for me, gambling was always just a Vegas thing. And so, but listening to Steve talk about, you know, know, other sports that he gambles on. It's really been fascinating to me, and I sort of been looking at, like, and I do a lot of fantasy football, right? And on this fantasy football app that we use, that me and my league use,
Starting point is 00:09:27 there's over-unders on the players that you can make bets on. So, like, you know, this player's going to get 250 yards passing. Will he do 251 or 249? So you can kind of make these bets. And to your point about, like, to your point about responsible games, So if I want to, I got, so I got my team, right? Your fantasy team. My fantasy team playing against my buddy.
Starting point is 00:09:50 Okay. But if I want to put a dollar on my quarterback, right, and it's going to pay me three, or, you know, if I want to do a five-player parlay and it's going to pay me five times or whatever, right? Man, it's exciting. Even just when it's one damn dollar. I know. Can we just say that you called me the other day all excited because you won like 12 bucks? or something.
Starting point is 00:10:16 I mean, you were as excited as anything else. You're like, I just won. Well, I mean, you know, it's fun to win. Even when it's minimal returns, it's still fun to have, you know, it's a win. So I don't know. I'm pretty fascinated to see how this show is received, and I think it'll do well. I think, you know, there's a great market for it. And also, let's move on to the Dell Junior Download format.
Starting point is 00:10:43 The Dell Jr. Download has turned into, when I first started hosting the show, Mike, it was a 22-minute show. We kind of had a 22-minute window that we tried to live in, and then it grew and grew and grew. And it's up to about two and a half hours at times, sometimes even more. And we, over the past, I think over the past couple of years since I became a broadcaster, I wanted to touch more on what we do in dirty air, more current events, more what's happened at the racetrack this past weekend, maybe even previews into the next weekend. Anything. But we can't if we live in this one show format, right? So with the interview, which we know everybody feels is important, we have reached a limit on how much more we can put into the show. I am not interested in releasing a three-hour or a four-hour podcast. Right. Right. And if we continue down this path, we're going to continue to blow that single show. That's right. So for us to be able to, for me to be able to do what I want to do in terms of what I want to do when I sit down in this chair, we've got to split this up. All right. So we are going to divide the Dell Jr. download into pieces.
Starting point is 00:11:54 And these pieces will now become their own shows. So we're going to have a Tuesday, a Wednesday, and a Thursday show. The Wednesday is the guest. We're doing this so we don't have to take away from the guest experience. If we continue to bloat the original single show, we would have to minimize the guests more and more and more to fit in any new things. And so we don't want to do that. We think the guest interviews are compelling.
Starting point is 00:12:19 They're enjoyable. We want to continue to be able to deep dive into a lot of the people that we have at this table. And so that'll be our Wednesday drop. Tuesdays are going to be dirty air and Ash Jr., where we'll touch on what happened at the racetrack the past weekend or anything else going on in our lives or anything else happening in the current events. And then Thursday will be sort of a variety show. It'll be a little bit reaction, a little bit touching on some more current events and things that we didn't get to on Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:12:47 And there's some new segments and ideas that we want to, you know, man on the street interviews and all types of things that we want to get into this show. And we want to bring into the Dale Jr. download experience. And that'll all be part of what Thursday is. Yep. My dream, I think, or my intentions, my goal, what I'm heading toward is a daily, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, you know, morning show style experience. That's what I would love to do. Outside of broadcasting in the broadcast booth on race day, I would love to be basically a talking
Starting point is 00:13:25 head, a morning show style. I think that's what I'd like to take this toward, right? And this is a step in that direction. This isn't the final concept, but this is moving toward that type of deal to where we're a daily source of content and information. And so that's what this is all about. And I hope everybody embraces it. And we're going to have a lot of fun with it. And you still get these great guest interviews this week starting off the season.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Go ahead and tell us who it is. Sterling, by God, Marlin. Sterling. By God, Marlin. So tomorrow you get to listen to. to Sterling Marlin. We've had him on a list for a long time. We've got a lot of notes to go over.
Starting point is 00:14:10 I was reading a lot of that this morning to get ready to sit down with him, and it's going to be great. I hear that he has a great memory recalling dates and information. That's important when we sit down with our guests, they'll come in with the details. In different parts of my life and career, he's woven into certain events. Yes, he is.
Starting point is 00:14:34 So we'll be talking about those. Let's get right to it, man. Let's start off with what we got into in the off-season. I had a little treatment done on my face. Can we talk about that? Well, I was wondering if you were going to bring it up. And you want to bring it up? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:51 All right. So I got a friend of mine that I work with, and me and him both had the same complexion. And he had this treatment done on his face where it's kind of to fight. pre-cancer cells or even cancer, I guess. And it's, you, your dermatologist is going to subscribe this stuff to you. It will burn like the top layer, top two or three layers of skin off of your face, wherever you put it, right? And especially anything that's like precancerous or cancerous,
Starting point is 00:15:21 that it really attacks that. And so my dermatologist is like, man, you've got to get this done. You've got to do this. You've got some places too much, you know, got some sun around your temples when you were younger and too much around your brow. And I had sunspots and all these. I just thought it was just normal aging sunspots, right? And changes in your complexion.
Starting point is 00:15:43 But my doctor's like, man, you've got to get this done. You've got to do this. Now, you've got to couple years, but I think at some point you've got to, there's going to be a point where you just, we can't say, now next year, we'll do it again. We'll do it next year. We'll do it next year. So my buddy had this done and his whole face was red.
Starting point is 00:15:58 And he says it's super uncomfortable. It takes about a month. To burn off? So you ply this stuff for about two weeks, and then your face is going to take another three weeks to completely heal. And it's super uncomfortable. It's like a real bad sunburn. Dang, I hate sunburns. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah. Well, it makes your skin red and irritated really bad. Like I say, man, it's like cooking the top couple layers of skin off your face. Yeah. And so I pushed it all the way. I pushed it off for three years. I told him a doctor, I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:34 I'm going to do it this winter. I'm going to do it this winter. I got to have a month where I don't go anywhere, don't do any TV, don't do a photo shoot, don't go somewhere where I need my face. And so this year was the year where he's like, hey man, we got to do this.
Starting point is 00:16:49 It's time. And there was this one little spot on my right brow, and he's cutting all this stuff off my face with a razor blade and sending it in and get biopsy. And there was one spot that he was like, this is important that we get this off. Now the rest of it, I wanted to go away as well, but this one spot is the one that you need to be making sure that it goes away.
Starting point is 00:17:12 And so anyways, I put this stuff. I was lucky because he was like, he drew on my face with ink pen. He's like, you only need to put it in these one spots. And it was basically around my temples and brow, right, up onto my forehead and down around my temples and onto my cheeks a little bit. So I didn't have to put it, you know, I didn't have to shave my beard, put it all over my chin or anywhere in the center of my forehead or my nose even. I think I should probably treat my nose at some point down the road, but I'm going to do, I put it where he asked me to, you know, he drew on my face and I took these, it was fun. I go to the doctor, he draws on my face, I take pictures of that, so I knew where to put it.
Starting point is 00:17:49 I'd look at these pictures that I took and see where he drew. And we kept taking pictures of it as we went on this process. So two weeks of putting this stuff on my face. I had these big red spots on the side of my face. And then it took, I feel like right now is when it, you know, right around now, I feel like it's completely gone. So first of all, this is why you said, don't talk to me in January. I'm going to be very cranky.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Yeah. Okay, second of all, should I have noticed these red spots? I mean, this sounds like you're cutting off these significant things. I've never even noticed this. They weren't red spots to begin with. Okay, so they were just blemishes or you wouldn't be able to really notice it. So I don't need to feel guilty for not noticing it. No.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Got it. I mean, I wasn't walking around with lesions hanging off the side of my, you know, forehead. All right. But it might, you know, that's like, I think that's a thing, too, man. It's like, a lot of times you might not know what's going on with your face until you go to a dermatologist and he'll look at something and go. I can promise you that's true. But he'll look at something on your face right now and say, this is a concern. And you'll be like, well, that's been there forever.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I don't know nothing you know I don't even notice it it's just a very yeah it's just a very faint shade of of darker brown or or some sort of you know it looks like a you know I don't know it looks kind of just like just in a spot right it's nothing and um so anyhow um what what about the biopsy did it come back all right no it didn't he said it got that part was um cancerous I don't know I mean he was like we need to focus on this he had a name for it Like, he didn't say, hey, this is cancer. He just said this is, he had a long name for it. And he's like, we got to make sure that this, pay attention to this one in particular.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Dang, I'm glad you got it done. Yeah. So, and I would have never messed with it. Had Amy or, you know, my buddy that I work with, had those things not triggered me to go to the dermatologists and get looked at, I probably would have never had it treated ever. Probably not. Yeah. And so I got this one spot.
Starting point is 00:19:55 on the back of one of my ears that's um that is absolutely going to be cancer if i don't it is absolutely going to be skin cancer if i don't do the same exact treatment when you're going to do that um i'm this year yeah it's a small spot i just got to put that cream on there a couple weeks and it'll just take care of it i paint i hope let's take some off weeks that week you want to it's not it's not a spot so that's on the back of my ear so it's not a spot like you're going to see when you're looking at me no no no i'm not worried about about that. I'm worried about, you know, the irritability factor. Oh, no, no, that's not a problem. Oh, really? You sure? No, it's not. Let's talk about the off-season. Jimmy Johnson's coming back. Yeah. Why? Why is he coming back? You know, I saw Denny's comment on his, on some of the stuff we put out to promote his show, and he's talking about how he didn't want him to come back. He's going to attain his legacy. I don't know, man. The guy's got every right in the world to do whatever he wants.
Starting point is 00:20:54 No, sure he's got the right to. Well, come on back. Hey, he didn't have a great time in Indy car. He got humbled. He'll tell you that. He couldn't find the limit. Couldn't find the speed. He's coming back to stock cars to redeem himself.
Starting point is 00:21:11 Damn. Is that right? Why not? I mean, can you really redeem yourself if you're running a handful of races? How competitive can you be? Not to you, buddy. Not to me. He's redeeming himself.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Okay, fair. And listen, I love Jimmy and I love. the fact that he's coming back and I love what he's doing with Petty GMS now called Legacy Motor Club, right? I love that. That's not the part. I'm just how competitive can you be and it's just going to
Starting point is 00:21:37 I'm just not going to enjoy seeing somebody like William Byron passing Jimmy Johnson or Ross Chastain passing Jimmy Johnson. Why? I mean, even when he was I know, I know, but I'm just saying it feels like it's going to be like it's, I feel like it taints
Starting point is 00:21:53 his legacy. When he went, when he was winning championships in a row. He was getting passed by people. You know what I mean, though. I'm thinking metaphorically here. I just don't want to see him come back and not be the, you know, the man that he is. Well, he wasn't the man when he left. I mean, the last couple of years of his cup career, he struggled. And I think, you know, the guys, so Jimmy, when I was looking to, to, when I was looking at retirement and considering retirement and what that might look like. Me and Jimmy had conversations and he's like, man, you know, it would be great as if we split
Starting point is 00:22:28 a season. I don't want to quit entirely, but, man, wouldn't it be cool if we just had a couple races that we ran and we split a car? And I'm like, man, that sounds awesome, but it's not realistic. Nobody's going to want to, Rick's not going to want to do that. But I'm just, I say that because in his mind, he never really wanted to stop. In his mind, he just wanted to do less. in his mind he still loves to drive and wants to race.
Starting point is 00:22:57 He went to Indy car because of the challenge, but also because of the limited schedule and the opportunity to do it when and where he wanted. Now he's getting that at the cup level and go get it. You know, I don't have an expectation of where he should or could finish. I don't think it's going to change anything about the way I feel about his legacy if he goes out there and doesn't have a good time or good runs. No way in hell.
Starting point is 00:23:28 A guy that won all those championships in a row. I mean, nobody's ever going to do that again. Nothing can change the way I feel about Jimmy and his legacy because of how dominant he was in that little, you know, particularly in that five-year stretch. And so, you know, go out there, have fun. I mean, I say that because I'm doing the same thing, right? I'm going down and running this late model car.
Starting point is 00:23:55 I might get my teeth kicked in by these guys. I mean, they've been pushing me around. We've been having fun. I haven't got no great results yet. Oh, well, I'm going to go back and do it again. Nobody's saying, hey, man, quit doing that. You're fucking it up. Yeah, I hear you.
Starting point is 00:24:10 You know? So I, on the other hand, didn't love the rebrand. You said you didn't care much about it. It didn't bother you. You didn't love the rebrand of the race team? Yeah. What the hell? Legacy Motor Club? What is this? Legacy Motor Club? What is this? Like a damn... It's like one of those car shows. It's like one of those drive-ins that Sunny Lunsford goes to.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It sounds like one of those things. Yeah. It sounds like... The old Legacy Motor Club down in Canapolis, you know? They bring all their... No, John... It was that movie with John Travolta and Chris Rock. Who was in that movie with Wild Hogs? Yeah. That's the Legacy Motor Club, man. That's right. That's what it would be like. 50-year-old accountants that ride Harley's on the weekend.
Starting point is 00:24:55 See, it's already tainting the legacy. See what I'm saying? That's not Jimmy's legacy. I mean... It is. He's the one that did it. I don't have a problem with that. But now that you've introduced wild hogs into the chat here,
Starting point is 00:25:06 now it's starting to change me a little bit. I'm just giving it a hard time. You know, it's like anything else. A year from now, it won't matter. That's right. A year from now, it'll be fine. Not that it won't matter. A year for now, like a name change,
Starting point is 00:25:18 for maybe an NFL team, right? Nobody loves it out of the gate. Maybe even a year later we don't like it. But at some point, you're like, it just kind of sticks. So you're at peace with moving the card numbers forward? Heck no. So we're going to get to that. Kevin Harvick has announced that he's retiring at the end of the season.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I find that pretty interesting only because we saw in the clash how he's pushing people around. right so we need to have a camera on Kevin the entire the entire year to make sure that we catch all of the people that gets sent off the nose of that number four car because that's going to be awesome to watch there's a reckoning coming well you know he's just saying to lean on him a little bit you might get it but he is also going into the fox booth I think that's a great move I think he's a good analyst
Starting point is 00:26:07 and I think he'll balance that booth out they they need someone else in there they have a variety of people that they put in throughout the year some great but I think that having a consistent week in week out team will be great for them going forward
Starting point is 00:26:25 so I'm excited about that and Kevin has driven this new car right so he's going to bring a ton of great analysts about exactly what this car feels like for the drivers and so that's critical for the booth I bought me Kevin speaking of Kevin
Starting point is 00:26:41 Harvick and Justin Marks and Jeff Burton bought the Cars Tour. Mm-hmm. And everybody's heard about that. The Cars Tour, Late Mall Stock Series, it runs about 18 races a year. We're going to announce that we're going on flow for the year. Going on flow? Yeah, we're going to be streaming on Flow.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It's not an additional purchase. So if you're a subscriber, you own the Cars Tour content for the season. Well, that's fantastic. It is. Also, we're going to Florence for the race this weekend on Flow. I'm taking my little late-mile car to go down there and run the Icebreaker on Saturday. racing starts around 2 o'clock. Oh, whoa, whoa, hold up a second.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah. But you're going to Florence Speedway this weekend in a late model. Yeah. Last time you were at Florence. Might have been penalized a couple times for running and wrecking people. Yeah. Were we going to come back with a little bit more, uh, uh, maybe a little less rudeness? Well, I didn't know the rules.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I didn't know you'd get sent to the rear if you spun somebody out. Is that right? Yeah. Is that the rules now? You're on the tour now. Well, I don't, this isn't a car's tour race. This isn't a car's tour. I didn't know that if you spun somebody out.
Starting point is 00:27:44 You automatically got sent to the rear. That's not how they did it. The last time I ran a late model race, if you spun out the leader, you were the leader. Oh, yeah, you didn't know it the first time, but you knew it the second time, didn't you? Yeah, that's what I was going to say. The second time was an accident. That's what I was going to say. What happened after the second time?
Starting point is 00:28:01 The second time was an accident. I really, I cooked it in the corner. I mean, you know, we don't have to relive it, but. I'm just trying to help you out here. So you're going to go back there. I didn't even know if you had any friends. I'm a little shocked to let you back, frankly. I'll find out when I get there.
Starting point is 00:28:14 I guess so. How many friends I got? Oh, if we need to fight our way out, that's the story. Yeah, I'm sure I'm going to see you there. Yeah. What, you don't think I'd go? No. You're right, I don't think I can be seen with it.
Starting point is 00:28:24 You're not going to be there. You're back to everybody. So we're going to have some fun this weekend at Florence if you want to go and check us out. If not, watch it on Flow and watch all the cars tour on Flow in 2020. Let's move on to the clash. What's the future of the clash and racing at the Coliseum? The Auto Club Speedway is getting reconfigured. It will not have a race in 2024.
Starting point is 00:28:51 And oh my, that seemed to stir a lot of concern. Man, we can't not have a race on the West Coast in Southern California. We can't go a year and not have a race. Well, we must have a, maybe we could have a points race at the Coliseum. What? the future of racing at the Coliseum, hopefully, is not a points race
Starting point is 00:29:17 in place of auto club's reconfigure. While Auto Club gets reconfigured, let's hope that we don't end up racing a points race at the Coliseum. That was sort of some rumbling. Mike helped me out here. Well, you're saying that you would be okay
Starting point is 00:29:33 with the clash staying there as an exhibition race, but don't make it a points race. And don't make it a points race because... It's not a real race. race track. It's not a real race track. No. There's no pit road. That's right. There's no pit road.
Starting point is 00:29:47 Yeah. But like, but there's, but there's plenty of race tracks, you know, short tracks, dirt tracks across the country that their pit road is on the outside. Are they holding cup races? Well, didn't IRP hold Xfinity races? IRP has a pit road buddy. They, but I'm talking about a garage. So you're saying there's no track with the pit road or anything that you've ever raced on. It's on the outside. I'm pretty sure that every cup race we run at has a pit road. So it's not a real race track.
Starting point is 00:30:16 Look, I mean, we can't, we can't. It's a temporary facility. It is. It's perfect the way it is. It does this little clash thing. We kick the season off in, in L.A. Everybody, you know, gets to get all excited. You know, to each is own, not everybody has to love what it is, but it is not.
Starting point is 00:30:37 It's a temporary track. And Michael McDowell, right, he runs out of gas or whatever happens to him. He's coasting around the race. Can't get off the track. Couldn't even get off the track. That's true. Had to throw a caution in the middle of the race. They had to throw a yellow because he couldn't get off the racetrack because there's no pit road.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I mean, the entry to it is so unorthodox that it doesn't work properly. It's not functional for a full points-paying event. I'm with you on that. think you didn't even like the Bush clash being there to begin with. I don't. Yeah. I do. I didn't have a problem with that.
Starting point is 00:31:13 And I don't have a problem with your opinion. Thank you. I like it at Daytona. I know a lot of people are going to say, well, it wasn't good there. And we don't need a terrible bunch of race cars and do, do, do, do. That's fine. I have my opinions about all of those opinions. But, you know, the clash was at Daytona.
Starting point is 00:31:32 It was for poll winners. I don't care if you had, you know, the problem is, you know, the clash was created in 1980 for guys that won poll awards. If it was eight, it was an eight car race.
Starting point is 00:31:48 If it was 12 pole winners from the year before, it was a 12 car race. That was that. It was 20 laps. It took damn 15 minutes. They didn't have practice or qualifying or anything. You just line them up and went. 20 laps, bam, bam.
Starting point is 00:32:02 It was over. And it was a nice appetizer in a long two weeks speed weeks speed weeks is now cut down to what four days it's a week
Starting point is 00:32:16 is it yeah okay I don't believe that they're all there for a week but anyways when do they qualify speed weeks has been cut down to literally nothing and so I understand the clash can't exist anymore because
Starting point is 00:32:31 it can't exist at Daytona because you know speed weeks has been minimized down to hardly nothing. The race the race kind of got bigger and bigger. More cars allowed.
Starting point is 00:32:45 More ways to enter the race. More ways to be available, more ways to be allowed to race, right? And I joked one year that if you had a valid driver's license, you were entered, you could run. That's right. We had past champions and top 26 in points,
Starting point is 00:33:01 and it's not, no longer a poll award online. invitational sort of thing, right? And when that went away, the clash itself, in my opinion, the identity of the clash was lost and gone. We've argued that over and over and over. So I'm fine that it's not at Daytona. I'm fine that it's at the Coliseum.
Starting point is 00:33:20 It can do this thing that it's doing. It was entertaining. I watched it. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. And that's what it needs to be. You could still do the poll winners. They should still do that.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Save RFK. from going all the way across the country and then... They're never going to do that. They're never going to revert back. They're never, ever going to revert back to the original identity of this race. I'm not holding my breath for it. Yeah. My thinking is that if, you know, since RFKs missed it two years in a row,
Starting point is 00:33:53 that next year they're not going to have an eliminate, they're going to start all 36 of them. Come on now. Well, Jimmy's going to show up, so they're going to lock him in. They're not going to, you know, they're not going to have Jimmy eliminated. So now we get champions provisional. Yeah. There'll be 40 cars after.
Starting point is 00:34:08 Which Brackzlowski then makes the show. Yeah. Yeah. You know, so. You're being facetious. I am. Yes. I mean, let's just be right.
Starting point is 00:34:17 So I'm being sarcastic. What's the future of the clash? I hope that it remains as is. And we have, it is a, it is a cool, neat thing in the shape and form that it exists in now. Let's not try to take that and screw it up. Yeah. I'm with you. I would love some consistency for a little while.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Yeah. If you want to do something else, do something entirely separate. If you got another idea, another racetrack we need to run at or whatever, right? Don't, let's just leave this little clash thing doing what it's doing and go do your other thing. Honestly, man, I still think that in my mind, man,
Starting point is 00:34:59 if I was running a sport, I would have the Coliseum, I would rebrand the Coliseum. race. And I'd run it mid-January. I'd take the Coliseum event and rebrand it. I'd leave it what it, you know, I'd leave the process and format and all that what it is. But I'd run it early.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I would take the Clash Clash, bring its original identity back to poll winners, put them 12 or 14 or whatever it is. The only the guys that won polls. No one else. Not a wild card, not a points champion. nobody just to poll winners put them out in Daytona for 20 laps before we qualified for the Daytona 500 and so the clash lives in Daytona where it belongs the Coliseum is this awesome icebreaker if you will for the season you know exhibition race almost like a off-season tour so it's
Starting point is 00:35:54 kind of like you guys used to go to Japan or whatever it is just exhibition you do that to go get new fans wouldn't you yeah I like it the best part about the clash. What was the best part for you? Best part about the clash. Hey, listen, I know a lot of people had a problem with the number of cautions and the beating and banging. I mean, like people complaining during the race and, you know, on social media. But I mean, like, listen, as somebody that's with you and I like short track racing, that's what comes with short track racing. I mean, is that all the, who's complaining
Starting point is 00:36:25 about beating banging? I mean, is this all the, the number of, the number of cautions basically prolonging the race. I mean, there was a truth about that. like how long it took to complete but I didn't have a problem with it's my point well the lot the it was a long format the heat races the the the 50 lap conci's i don't i don't think it was i liked those too by the way well i think that the if there's frustration over how long it took uh the pointing the finger at the cautions is not you're pointing the finger at the wrong thing right the number of cautions yeah but maybe maybe i mean listen i'm saying i didn't have a problem with that i just thought that
Starting point is 00:37:04 the ability then he talked about it a little bit like you were going to have to root and and beat and bang to make a pass great and i like yeah that's what that's what i like you asked me what what i like most about the clash that was it oh i'm surprised to hear that people didn't like that surely you saw that people were bitching and complaining about how long the race took nope i you weren't on social media yes no no no oh yeah you must have been mike i think i i personally felt like that the day was too long. From the minute I turned my TV on... From five to...
Starting point is 00:37:39 Yeah, that's five hours. From the minute I turn my TV on to watch the first lap of the first heat race to the minute it ended, that was too long of a show. Okay. I mean, I don't want to cut the heat races. I don't want to cut the last chance race, but squish all this up, man. Get this in a smaller window.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Or take the heat races in the last chance race and run on the night before. What the hell was that? You know, we had qualifying and then went off the air. Give me some meat on the bone on the night before, man. Give me some racing. Okay. Well, what was your favorite part of the clash?
Starting point is 00:38:14 Maybe, you know what? Qualify them, the top 20 lock in and then run your last chance races that night on the night before. You get your last chance races out of the way. I don't know. They should change the format to where race day is a bit more of a smaller package. package is, you know, sitting at home on TV, taking over the television in a house of, you know, with two kids. Girls are like, hey, pep a pig.
Starting point is 00:38:44 I'm like, give me about three more hours. Or, and here's a thought, go to the other room. Yeah. Take your peppa pig into the other room. Yeah. But so what was your favorite part of it? What did you like about? Gwen Stefani telling everybody how drunk.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Clint Boyer was. That made Clint so uncomfortable. It did. He's like, hey, man. Yeah. Blowing me up. I was a little shocked by why he was acting so embarrassed by that. He doesn't.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Clint's funny. We all know that he's a fun-loving wild goofball. That's who he is. But he doesn't want anybody to think that in certain moments. Who does he think he's fooling? You don't get to choose, Clint. You can't be one and the other depending on the time of day or whether you're wearing a tie or not. It's like what, Gronk acting like he's a banker sometimes.
Starting point is 00:39:31 But like, no, no, wait. He's still Gronk. Clint Boyer is our version of Gronk. That's right. Just own it. That was hilarious, by the way. After the race, Kyle Bush, he goes on Sirius X-M morning show. Kyle Bush did.
Starting point is 00:39:45 He did. And said that Joe Lugano was two-faced. I didn't hear this. Is that what happened? Are we sure that happened? Yeah, no, he did. He said, I guess what happened was they were in the Fox booth or they did some like Fox thing. And afterwards, Joe was like, hey, man, you know, can't wait to race against you today.
Starting point is 00:40:01 Like, good luck. did that on the track and he said he's two-faced. Oh, man. Yeah. Well, that's another, let's just say this quickly. That is another great thing about the clash, the beating and banging the short track racing and all of that happening at the start of the year. This is perfect.
Starting point is 00:40:16 Like, get all these guys, trap them in a room, get them pissed off at each other. Name calling. And then start the season. Yeah, yeah. Joe Lagan, you're meany. Yeah, you said good luck before the race and then you just went and went 180. But it's perfect. What a f*** toll?
Starting point is 00:40:31 Put them all in a season. closet, come on. Make them pissed off at each other where they can't stand each other and then turn them loose and then the year begins. That is great.
Starting point is 00:40:39 No, I'm with you on that. Here's the news flash. All drivers are two-faced if that's what we're defining two-faced. Well, I see those driver intros. Everybody's like, they're big pals, you know. Big pals. Hooting and hollering.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Yeah. What is it? Joey Lugano's two-faced. Kyle Bush is two-faced. How about that? Interesting. It'll be interesting to watch Kyle Bush this year because he is out from under
Starting point is 00:41:01 the He's out from under the whatever, you know, whatever restrictions he may have felt at Joe Gibbs Racing. Joe Gibbs Racing, Hendrick Motorsports, Penske, they all have a perception expectation, right? Penske with the white shirts, the black pants, the, you know, everything tucked in, everything pressed HMS, you know, and they used to have this sort of facial hair thing. You canned that one, didn't you? Am I making sense, though, that there's a lot of these teams that sort of have,
Starting point is 00:41:39 you know, you've got to tighten it up. Yeah, for sure. Penske being the biggest one. Penske and Hendry. Kyle is free of any of whatever those restrictions may have been, right? and now I think will be a little more outspoken. I feel like, man,
Starting point is 00:41:56 well, I know to say that about Kyle's, I think even more so, he's gonna be like, he's pretty much, you know, got free reign over however he wants to conduct business in my mind, racing for Richard Childers. Richard Childers is not going to tell him how to act.
Starting point is 00:42:16 No, Richard Childers is not going to, Well, if he tells him how to act, it may be the antithesis of what the other guys would have had. But I just never took Kyle Bush as somebody that is, you know, being careful on what he says. Mufflers. So everybody was up in arms about the mufflers coming into this race. So I ran mufflers on my late mall stock car back in the 90s. And I never thought a second about it. I mean, you know, we'd have to go to maybe, I think we put them on when we went to a couple different tracks.
Starting point is 00:42:46 we'd install them and not think nothing about it I didn't give a shit we'd put you know I was more and happy to put that muffler on the car to go race at whatever race track and I was having the time of my life driving race cars I didn't give a shit about mufflers then I don't give a damn about them now if putting a muffler on a cup car gets us to a certain race track say like Nashville fairgrounds by all means muffle them up both the damn thing on there and you mentioned numbers moving forward so that's something that we can unsee. That's an abomination that's staring you right in the face. These mufflers are hidden underneath the car.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Who gives a shit about that muffler? So you're saying those numbers are louder than even the car is that's being muffled. I don't like the numbers move forward. I'm getting, you know, I'll get used to it. I don't know about that. Don't love it. I think you're dying on that hill. I'm not.
Starting point is 00:43:42 Hey, you ain't going to die alone on that hill. though. The train's gone and left the station. Yeah, I think so. It ain't coming back. It ain't coming back. So I know the numbers will probably never end up back in the middle of the door, but I don't have to love it. Nope.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And I can be honest about it. Yep. I don't love the numbers move forward. I'm not a fan of it. But the muffler, man, come on. Put the damn muffler on. Let the muffler be there. I mean, whatever.
Starting point is 00:44:04 Yeah. It's a big deal. Did you say the mother muffler? No. No, no. No, he did not. Clash reactions and overreactions. I mean, you know, this is basically,
Starting point is 00:44:14 Justin Haley, he sets on the pole. What kind of year you think Justin Haley is going to have? Everybody seems to be really high on Justin. Yeah, and you know what? I thought that was an overreaction, but did you see what he did after the race? Yeah, he flew home, didn't sleep, landed, drove to Florida. Raced, set on the pole or something? And won.
Starting point is 00:44:34 And won. And then went to sleep. At least that's what he said. That's impressive. If Justin keeps doing those types of things, he's going to gain a lot of respect and a lot of fans. Already has for me. Yeah. Truix, big rebound in 2023. He won his heat and the clash.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I think he rebounds. There's been some changes in his personal life for whatever reason. I feel like that he was thinking retirement last year and now looks like a guy that could go two, three, four more years. Oh, yeah. Overreaction? Not an overreaction. I mean, that's fair.
Starting point is 00:45:05 Yeah. Michael McDowell, you know, I mentioned Michael because he lost his crew chief to Hendrick Motorsports and Alex Bowman. They really heard how on this guy. And I felt like that that was one of the reasons why Michael had such a great year last year. And I was thinking, man, that's going to cause that team to regress. He went out and won the last chance race, beat a few cars that I didn't know that they would beat. So I'm going to be keeping an eye on Michael. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:29 Seeing how that team performs this year. Had a great year last year. Can he at least match some of that performance this year with the changes they've had? And to the point of the crew chief swap at Alex, or, yeah, Alex Bowman's car. How well will he run this year? This is sort of a make-or-break year for Alex, I think. I agree with that. I think if Alex doesn't step up in performance a little bit,
Starting point is 00:45:54 some people will be thinking he might be on a hot seat. And I know that Alex is going to hear this and go, I've been on the hot seat all my life. I've been on the hot seat every year's a contract year for me, but I honestly feel like that he's got a great opportunity. I expect him to have a great year. I think that they're going to have an improving performance for whatever reason, they had plateaued him and Greg Yves.
Starting point is 00:46:19 And so I think this change could be a good one for Alex. We'll see. We'll see. He won races last year. Well, they ran good at the clash. I know the clash is a temporary facility, not a real racetrack. I know it is. You know, we can't really, you know, we can't really, you know, we can take a little,
Starting point is 00:46:35 it's a small, simple size, right? And so. So we've heard. We mentioned this, Roush going home. years in a row, both cars didn't make it. So this is a guarantee that NASCAR starts all 36 entries next year. Come on. There's no way. There's no way they let Ralph miss three in a row. Three years in a row. No way. That might be true until Brad became an equity owner of the place. Now they have no reason just to. Kyle. Kyle Busch runs better this year than he did in Joe Gibbs'
Starting point is 00:47:04 Gibbs' racing equipment last year. I think, I don't think that's an overreaction. I think it's possible. Well, it's also a fact. I mean, none of the, none of the get. Oh, you're talking about. out for the whole year. Yeah. Oh, no, I don't think that's going to happen. You don't think. You think you'll have some down date. I think he'll come back to Earth.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Coming back to Earth, all right. Austin Dillon has a career best season. Being pushed and aided by Kyle Bush's presence. I think that's more likely. I do too. Ryan Priest was his... Boy, they crowned him. Was his reaction warranted?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Look, man, I'll be honest with you. Ryan's a great driver. I think he will absolutely... mold into a typical A-list, you know, top-top elite driver. That track combination, the car, and everything, that right there was as close to comparable to his modified upbringing as it will ever get in cup level competition. That was tailor-made to see him shine, right?
Starting point is 00:48:06 That was a great, you know, silver platter of ingredients that he should have. succeeded in and he did he looked really really good had a little issue with the with a fuel pump that cost him what he thought was the win of the race possibly um i think he'll have some high moments but also i think there'll be some some back down to earth moments for ryan as well crowd attendance reaction mike you know i this could go either way was it a good crowd or bad crowd i think it was a fair crowd i don't everybody made seem like that there was a problem there i think it would look like a bush clash crowd is what it looked like i'd like to see comparable of last year versus this year was it was it more or less?
Starting point is 00:48:45 I thought it was similar. They said last year it was 50,000 this year was like more than like 40,000? Listen to the spotters on door bumper clear. By the time the actual race started, it was about what it was last year. So they said maybe it's like 5,000 off here, there, but it's like, you know, they just were a late crowd, LA late arriving crowd. During the heat races, somebody that was at the racetrack said, you know, noticed the comments about how there was nobody there.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And they said, hey, I'm here in every. Everyone is outside the track, literally looking outside the track over the top of the Coliseum. You could see everybody was out in the midway or whatever you want to call it. And that is typical of the L.A. sports fan is a lot of times, man. It's like fourth inning of the baseball game and they're just coming in. Right. They don't show up at the parties on time. And right across the street is the USC campus.
Starting point is 00:49:38 So that's a lot. And I saw a lot of college kids it looked like in the stands. And that's very typical. they were not going to show up right away. Never. And I noted, yeah, by the time the race started or halfway through the race, the crowd was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:51 All right, so moving on from the clash, what's your, let's do some way too early championship picks. All right, Ryan Preece here. Seriously. All right, go ahead. Well, no. You got one? Mine's Blaney. You're going, Ryan, Blaney.
Starting point is 00:50:08 Blaney for the champion. I am going for his first Cup championship James Denny Hamland That was both of mine There you go
Starting point is 00:50:23 The podcast is going to get him over the hump That's all he needed all his lives I would say that I got a final four Okay Blaney Denny Trix Bill All right hold on let me process this Blaney
Starting point is 00:50:37 Joe Gibbs Racing All of them to all of Joe Gibbs racing. So you're being facetious again. I got those three from, no, I'm not. I got those three from Joe Gibbs racing going into the final four, and I don't think that Ty Gibbs makes the playoffs. Well, that's, okay, that's like,
Starting point is 00:50:54 you don't think Hendrick Motorsports is going to have anything in the final four. I think the five and the nine make the round of eight. So you even got your round of eight? Yeah. Do you got your 16? Yeah. Okay, let's hear it. We might as well just go ahead and hear the 16.
Starting point is 00:51:09 My round of 16, the four drivers that get knocked out? Sure. Give it to us. I want the whole 16 drivers. Do you have all that? Yeah. Yeah, I want all 16. That old facial cream gave you nothing but time.
Starting point is 00:51:23 My God. I mean, this is ridiculous because I mean, it's a lot. Yeah, it's a lotter. So the 4, 23, 24, and the 16, or my round of 16 drivers drivers. My round of 12 are the 48, 8, 45, and the 99. Hold on. You're going with car numbers here. It's just easier for me.
Starting point is 00:51:41 I got it. But maybe the listener needs a name to go with them. Yeah. No, not going to give them one? Okay, got it. We get down into the season, maybe. We'll do names. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:52 Get your pens out. Google it. All right. So did you give it to us all? So you gave us your 16, your 8? Round of 8 is 1. Did you give us your 12? And you're 8?
Starting point is 00:52:04 All right. So round of 4, Blaney, Denny, Drew X, Christopher Bell. Round of 8. is Chastain, Lugano, Larson, and Chase Elliott. Okay. The round of 12 would be Bowman, Cowbush, Tyler Reddick, Daniel Suarez. Round of 16 is Harvick, Bubba Wallace, Byron, and A.J. Almonding.
Starting point is 00:52:29 And honestly, man, I would swap that stuff around a little bit as we go, but, and I could see other people that I didn't list getting in. And I start early with this, right? February 7th, to be clear. And I keep this and sort of, you know, make notes and amendments to it as the season goes and see, you know, see how wrong I was. Can't wait to see this. In fact, we just gave Steve LaTartre something to bet on on Thursday. Well, we should probably introduce our host for Asr Jr.
Starting point is 00:53:02 Let's do it. All right. Andrew Curlin. How's it going? Hey, man, how are you doing? Doing good. Yeah, so Andrew's here and is going to be helping us throughout the year. Well, I mean, Hannah is going to be back.
Starting point is 00:53:14 She just happens to be, I think, on our honeymoon, right? Yeah, she got married. Yeah. But Andrew is a full-time employee with Dirty Momita now. Yeah, I got you. Any more? I would say more than helping us. No, no, I got it.
Starting point is 00:53:26 What else is he doing? Oh, man, what is he not? Well, first of all, next level pod. That's right. And next level video series is hosted by Andrew Curlin. Yeah, Mike and I were talking yesterday. it was cool to have Ken Squire have a residency on the Dirty Mo channels. I feel like we guys really hear stories over a few months.
Starting point is 00:53:44 A few people have reached out to me, Andrew, and said that that's probably the best long-form Squire interview that they've heard. That's cool. Amazing job by you. I appreciate you going all that way to get the content and make the effort to do that. And Andrew is going to be hosting next level throughout the rest of the year with other incredible... interviewees. So let's fire past Junior. Let's do it.
Starting point is 00:54:15 All right, Dale, we are live. All right, everybody. Hey, it's Delin Hart Jr. here for the Dale Jr. download. You're obviously watching us on our Dirty Mo Media YouTube channel. And me and Mike here recording our Tuesday edition of the Dale Jr. download. Andrew Curlin is going to help us with our questions today that you guys have been sending in. So, Andrew, let's go. Yeah, this first one is from Charlie, he asked, how cool was the Hall of Fame experience this year, especially, you know, did you have any stories with Matt Kenseth, Kirk Shelmerdine, and how was that whole time?
Starting point is 00:54:51 I was honored to be asked to go. It was interesting because Kirk asked me to induct him, right? Go up there and introduce him to the stage, which was a big honor. I couldn't believe all the people that he's been connected to, has relationships with. He asked me to do it. We had Kirk in here on one of the shows, and he was like, man, I felt bad how we, you know, we didn't really communicate much when I was a little boy. I'd go to the track, sit out of the way, and I didn't, you know, hardly hear, I didn't talk to them, they didn't talk to me much. And he was like, man, I wish I would have talked to you more.
Starting point is 00:55:30 I wish we would have integrated you more into what we were doing. And so I was like, I thought that was really cool that he asked me to induct him. Matt got to choose who would go up on stage with him when he did his chat with Kyle Petty. And he chose me and Robbie Reiser. And I'm like, man, of all the people, right, Mark Martin, Jack Rausch, and all the other people that have been a part of Matt's career in life, his own wife, right? Then he asked me to go up there. And so, yeah, I had a lot to do at the event. And just going as a new member, right?
Starting point is 00:56:06 That was my first year to go to these functions as a member and to be able to hang out and pile around and backslap with Rusty Wallace and Jeff Gordon and all those guys. It was pretty entertaining. Especially, you know, you and Matt back-to-back years had to be pretty cool. It was. It was fun because, you know, Matt out-performed me, you know, at the cup level. He got the championship.
Starting point is 00:56:33 He had a really, really solid career. And when we went to Homestead for my last year, my last race, we also felt like that might have been Matt's last race, right? They told me they're like, man, NASCAR is like, we're going to put you at the back of the grid so you can have room for your family, similar to what they did with Jeff Gordon, his last race at Homestead. So we're going to be down there at the interest of pit road at the back of the grid with whoever we want to celebrate to stay with. And I said, well, you're not putting me back there by myself. You're putting Matt back there. So they were like, oh, okay. And I was like, yeah, I mean, it might be Matt's last race too.
Starting point is 00:57:14 He hasn't announced to retirement. He hasn't, you know, but damn, you know, if it is, this will be awkward. So me and Matt, I don't know, I've always, we kind of always look out for each other a little bit, leaned on each other. There were a lot of things that we talked about early in our careers. Hey, man, they're asking me to do this. You know, do you do that or what did you have to do? or what do you say sponsors or NASCAR requirements and all these things.
Starting point is 00:57:38 And so we'd kind of bounce things off each other and help each other. This next one is coming from Spencer. And it's interesting people always ask, you know, what's the path to becoming a driver? But he asks, I'm a mechanic and long wanted to work for a NASCAR team. How would you go about doing that? Walk up to the door of this building and turn in your resume. So it's as simple as that. So if you want to be a mechanic or anything in this business, you can literally find job opportunities on Twitter now.
Starting point is 00:58:11 We were talking about this, Mike, about two years ago, I mean, any time in the past, right, if we had a job opening for anything around here, I would say, why don't we just go on Twitter and say, hey, man, we need somebody to fill this role? And everybody would look at me and go, that's a dumb idea. We don't need to be blasting that on Twitter. I'm like, well, you need somebody to fill a position. Why don't you just promote? Oh, no, no, no, no, that's not the right avenues. Well, now there's so much desperation to get people. You can't, nope.
Starting point is 00:58:41 Two years ago, on a Monday morning, there would be five people down there hand in resumes in for various roles. Hey, I want a job. This is what I'd love to do. Here's what I know. Nobody comes in hands in resumes anymore. And you've got people, big organizations, Joe Gibbs Racing, going on Twitter. I need a road mechanic.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I need a tire guy, tire specialist. That's right. Somebody please apply for this job. Dignity be damned. They're going out on social looking for it. Why is this? What's going on? It's just every industry's kind of...
Starting point is 00:59:13 Every industry must be having the same situation. I need, I got, we got a position, you know, we got multiple positions that we love to feel that are difficult to feel. That aren't, people aren't just walking in going, hey, man, I'm qualified for this job. And so, you know, we just used to have, you know, so many people. people that wanted to get in their motorsports and didn't know how and didn't know, you know, you know, that could be mechanics that needed to be groomed. And it's just not as, I mean, we're literally sitting right next to the NASCAR Technical Institute that, in all, you know, to my knowledge, is full of people that want to get in our industry.
Starting point is 00:59:57 Yeah. Right. Yeah. The lunch hour traffic surely suggests it. Right. There's plenty of people over there. You know. And that might be where a lot of people end up going now
Starting point is 01:00:09 Because, you know, there used to be a big, you know, big, big pool of folks that were in the industry that you knew, a lot of names, a lot of people that would apply for jobs, but not so much anymore. Everybody's kind of, when they get out of the sport, they don't come back. They go back home to wherever they're from. They get into the family business or they start a new business. So unrelated to racing. There's guys that I knew from HMS that I follow on Instagram, man, they're so far removed from motor sports is ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:00:41 They're charter captains, boats up into Alaska and shit. And I'm like, how did you get there? What is, how did you get from here to there? Right. It's interesting times. It is challenging to kind of find the positions that people need. I know that I just saw yesterday on social media, Joe Gibbs Racing, their ARCA program, they're looking for a mechanic, road mechanic.
Starting point is 01:01:03 Great, I mean, a great paying job. Great, you know, yeah, you're on the road, that might be fun. Yeah, with a reputable organization. I mean, so in other words, if you're interested in getting to NASCAR, it seems like there's never been a better time. I think so. And literally, you can see where these jobs are popping up in opportunities to get them through social media now, where, like, you know, we talked about, you know,
Starting point is 01:01:24 you never, oh, we can't advertise on Twitter. That's silly. Now it seems to be like you say they're so desperate to get the roll field. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say even a few years ago you wouldn't see resumes being posted on social media, but I feel like I see them once a week these days. This next question is coming from Matt Reed,
Starting point is 01:01:44 and he said NASCAR has become one of the most diverse forms of motorsports from road courses, short track, super speedways, dirt racing. What do you think about having a timed NASCAR race? Well, I would be great if it was. 24 hours long. I had this sort of, I had this sort of debate over the last couple of years. When the Daytona 24 hour race comes around, the imagination starts going about like, man, could NASCAR have its own version of a 24-hour race, or could we have a class entered
Starting point is 01:02:17 into EMS's 24 hours of Daytona? I say yes to all of that. You know, Bob Pockris and other people on social media will say, well, they're, you know, how do you put, you know, the cars don't have lights. Well, they just showed us the garage 56 or whatever. Yeah. Has lights. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:34 It has lights. And it's going to run 24 hours of Le Mans. It is this car. It's this cup car. They've made some adjustments and stuff to it to make it to where it has more downforce and so forth. But component-wise, it can't be far from where we are. I've talked to Doug Yates. He says the motors can handle it.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Challenge them, right? It's a test of man and machine. trying to make that thing go 24 hours, trying to get a driver to take care of that car for 24 hours or a couple drivers, right? So I'm all for it. I would love to see our cup cars in some version of an endurance event.
Starting point is 01:03:10 Definitely. This next question comes from Bob Cruckton. He says, we miss stories from you and the DJD when we were in the off season. Did you have anything fun happened to you with you, Amy, the girls, at home? I had something not so fun. Uh,
Starting point is 01:03:26 Mike, you remember the outlaw fuel additive? Yeah, they were a sponsor on the eight car. Yeah. Way back on the rear quarter panel. Way back when I was like a rookie. Yeah. Before we met. Outlaw.
Starting point is 01:03:36 I remember that. Company's little bottles about this size right here. And, um, I found one of those bottles, probably a couple years ago in the back of a storage unit or something in the back of a shop, right? And I was like, holy moly, it's, and it still had the outlaw additive in it, But the cap, which was plastic, had disintegrated, lost whatever, no cap, right? Disintegrated.
Starting point is 01:04:02 That's a hell of an additive. Deseecreates the caps. Probably when it's 15 years past expiration, that's the thing that happens, actually. I was like, I'm looking at this bottom. I'm like, man, I got to take, I'm going to take this up to my house. And I wanted to keep it, but it had no cap on it. So I set this thing on top of, I set this thing on top of a drink cooler, a glass. door, open up, get a water out, and that was sitting on a workbench.
Starting point is 01:04:32 So standing in my shop, in my garage, at home, in my garage, workbench, drink cooler, fuel additive bottle. Without a cap. No cap on it. Full of additive. Anybody know where this is going? Full of 20-year-old additive. And so this drink fridge was freezing over in the back inside on the interior.
Starting point is 01:04:54 So I had a hammer and a screwdriver, a long screwdriver, was chipping away at some of that ice. It's easy just to, and the ice falls and to get it off of the back of the coils. And so that freaking additive bottle tipped over on top of me and poured down into my hat, a brand new hat, I might say. And onto my hoodie and onto my pants, it spilled all over the counter. It was everywhere. stuff was like soy sauce it was going in places that it yeah soy sauce
Starting point is 01:05:29 just gets several is that what happens I think you're right actually now that I think about it right you can't actually undo those little packets of soy sauce without it actually spilling on you everywhere
Starting point is 01:05:39 that's a great point and so it's true yeah my two year old is at school and I need to be there at 1220 sharp for her to be picked up I need to be standing at her door a couple minutes early
Starting point is 01:05:53 And so it's time to leave. I'm supposed to be walking out the door. And I got this shit all over me. And so, and it stinks. I was going to say, what does outlaw smell like when it's 20 years past? Gas? Yeah, it sounds like, I got it smelled like gasoline. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I ran upstairs, took two showers, and threw all the shit out. My clothes, their junk. No. Not even worth washing. My hat, brand new hat. Had a new My new Myrtle Beach, Speedway hat that I'd gotten off the internet. And that was a, that was, and I was, you know what?
Starting point is 01:06:30 It was funny because when I put that bottle up there about a year ago, I told myself, this is a freaking mistake. No cap on that. And I don't know what the hell I'm thinking. And I was doing it. I'm like, I don't know what I'm doing. This is stupid. This is dumb as hell to put this up here.
Starting point is 01:06:47 This is like perfectly positioned to fall on me. And it did. Said every guy at one point of our life. lives, right? I mean, like, we've all done it like, this is dumb, and yet I cannot not do it. So how long did it take to get this? I mean, you threw the clothes away, but like, did the two showers work? I mean, did you go to the school? What's the five? What's the showers? What's that? What's that? Like, did you take one? You're like, this is not good now. It didn't work? I took one and, you know, I guess I call taking two showers, basically, wash my hair,
Starting point is 01:07:14 wash my body, and then do that process again. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah. So I was just making sure right i wish i could uh uh hear the comments or the or the thoughts of the people around you at the school because i mean you know school lines when you're picking up kid those are judgmental lines right there right you're all you're always sizing up the other parents yeah of course you are yeah did we talk about the idiot and smells like gas yeah with the clothes clearly that are wrecked look at that jackass did we talk about that last year where i hit the horn accidentally in Oh my God. Man.
Starting point is 01:07:52 That's so embarrassing. It is. So I'm in. I'm here, everybody. I'm in line at a carpool line. It's long, right? It's snaking around. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:03 And I'm saying, this is my job to get the kids. I love it. I take them to school, and most of the time I pick them up. And so we're sitting there and mid, we're in the thick of the line. Nicole wanted me to unbuckler, man. And so I put the truck in park and I turn around and I'm climbing back to get her. And somehow or another, my elbow or something hit the horn. And you know everybody's like, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:30 What are you horning for? Right, right. And nobody going anywhere. You can't move. And I'm sitting there going, oh, s'b. Right, right. You know, race car driver, impatient, you know, let's go. Right, right.
Starting point is 01:08:42 You know, I thought for sure they were sitting there thinking that I hit that horn on purpose. No, I would have. Yeah, for sure. Especially if you're the person right in front of you. Like, what a jackass? Why don't you walk in me? You know the drill? So we pull up to the, all the teachers get the kids out of the car.
Starting point is 01:08:57 We pull up and the teacher goes, hey, man, it gets kids out. And I'm so close to saying, you know, man, I messed up. I really didn't mean to hit the horn. But maybe you shouldn't know, right? I mean, there's all the, there's like six teachers, right? Right. One at each car. Right.
Starting point is 01:09:13 And I was like, oh, should I tell her, should I say anything? I was so nervous saying, yeah. And so I didn't say anything And I pull out and I've told Amy About what happened And she goes, you didn't tell a teacher That you hit it accidentally? And I was like, I didn't know if she heard it
Starting point is 01:09:26 I didn't know if they were like, man, what's up with this jerk? And so I didn't say anything She goes, you should have said something Yeah, you should have said something. Really? Yeah, of course. Yeah, 100%. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:35 Right. So really. Think about the kids, man. I mean, like they... Even now they still think of it. I was thinking about the kids. I was thinking about like Dale. I'm like, yeah, I'd be embarrassing.
Starting point is 01:09:43 I'd be like, yeah, my bad. Man. Oh, well. And then you spill fuel additive on yourself, and they're like, isn't that the guy who also slammed the horn in the... Yeah, same dude. In fact, they just knew, like, y'all smell that gas must be the Earnhardt. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:58 Must be Isla's dad. Yeah. I think that's a good place to wrap it up this week. All right. Thank you, Andrew. Appreciate it. Like Mike said, Hannah will be here throughout the year. Andrew filling in for this week.
Starting point is 01:10:13 And thanks for all those questions. For As Junior, it's a lot of fun, always, you know, being able to go live. I think, you know, that's a good opportunity to talk about our live show. You know, we have Dirty Mo Media Live, right, Mike? Yeah. And those, that's going to be happening weekly? Yeah, maybe even biweekly. Buy weekly?
Starting point is 01:10:34 Yeah. So twice a week? Yeah, maybe, yeah. That what biweekly means? I think it was what it means. Did I get that wrong? I think you're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:41 Yep, I'm getting the approval. I was right. Yeah. But, yeah, we're going to do it as much as. we feel like doing it. I mean like it's actually called Dirty Moe Live. Dirty Moe Live. What did I say? Dirty Moe Media Live, but it's okay. It's an honest mistake. You wouldn't be the first one
Starting point is 01:10:55 to make it. It won't be the last. But the fact is is that Dirty Mo Live is just available for us and it's going to be much like this Asc Jr. So Asc Jr. is going to stay live on YouTube every week just like this. But I'm hoping that at some point
Starting point is 01:11:10 we're doing this entire show, this entire Tuesday show with Dirty Air and Asc Jr. Live. Like all of Dirty air would be live we've talked about it we want to get there i know all y'all think that you just why don't you're just push the record button what's the hard part about that but there's a lot more to it uh and and we're just not we're just not there yet but we want to get there hopefully maybe by the end this year we're doing doing the tuesday episodes live yeah i feel like you're giving me the eye well no no you're are you i think i think what you want to say am i making you
Starting point is 01:11:41 know i'm the one that's preventing that is that what you want to say no i just think that there's It's not as easy as mashing the record button. Well, that's true. That's true. Although, you know, we'll see. We'll see. All right. Well, that's the, we hear you, I guess, is the point here.
Starting point is 01:11:55 We hear the feedback, and we understand that that's what we want to, and we're going to try to get there. But that would be fun. Make sure, you know, you guys keep the questions coming in. I appreciate it. And thanks for, thanks for, you know, supporting BertoD Mo Media and all we do here. All right, everybody. That's the Tuesday show. February 7, 2023,
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