The Dale Jr. Download - 427 - Vacation From The Vacation

Episode Date: March 21, 2023

Dale Earnhardt Jr. and co-host Mike Davis are back for another edition of the Dale Jr. Download. After NASCAR tackled the high banks of Atlanta and the chaotic news cycle continued, there was a lot fo...r the Download crew to discuss: Vacation from the vacation (1:00)  Denny Hamlin, Hendrick Motorsports, and Kaulig Racing are all appealing their penalties (18:00) Josh Williams stopped the show at Atlanta (literally..) (30:25) Corey LaJoie and Spire Motorsports continue to impress (41:38) When the crew turned the floor over to listeners on Youtube live, they sent in questions regarding: (53:46) What actually happens in the NASCAR hauler? Using code words on the team radio How Dale’s journey to learning the guitar is going Getting a NextGen car for the car graveyard Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We're sitting there in the hot tub. One of the girls said, hey, my son is a big fan of yours. I was like, man, that's nice. Tell him, I said, hey, we had a very brief but nice interaction. Great people. One of their crew, this fella comes wandering up, and he figures out who I am in the moment, walks right up to me and goes,
Starting point is 00:00:26 first thing he says, only thing he says. Jimmy Johnson won a lot more races than you, didn't he? Oh my God, that is hilarious. What do you think? Did he get him? Am I hono? No, no. No, a little slightly.
Starting point is 00:00:51 We don't know what we're doing. Are you kidding me, Mike? Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. Welcome back to another episode of the Dale Jr. Download. It is Tuesday, March the 21st. 23rd. Is it 23rd? Oh, it's 21st.
Starting point is 00:01:08 Sorry, Dale. Sorry, I just saw this. I'm sorry. No, we're leaving that. No! Sorry, Mike. Right out of the gate. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:17 So, in the Bojangles studio here with Mike Davis, and I'm trying to get my barons. Man, I am strung out. Are you hungover? Are you hungover? No, I'm not hungover. Do you need a hangover beer? No, I don't need a hangover beer.
Starting point is 00:01:32 You've already had a hangover beer. Well, you know, last week we were on a trip to Texas and we recorded via Zoom. Yeah. Right? And then is you, are you okay? I'm looking at you and you got looked like one eyes smaller than the other. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Is your left eye giving you any weird vibes? No, I think I see fine. Okay. But then again, there's two of you. Which one do you want me to talk to? Which one is the real you? So, right? My eye is smaller than the other one?
Starting point is 00:02:09 It's squished or squint. Squintington. Which one? This one? The left one. You're squinting with the left one, open, wide, open with the right one. So anyways, last week, I got pink eye. You hear me? And that's why I'm thinking about this, because when I got pink eye on my left eye,
Starting point is 00:02:25 that's what happened? Yeah, it gets squinted. Man, it was... If I looked like what you looked like last week when you had pink eye, yeah, I need to go to the doctor. Yeah, I was hesitant to tell anyone publicly like this that I had pink eye because when I told a couple of the people out of the gate, friends, you know, people in your inner circle,
Starting point is 00:02:45 they're like, who farted in your face? Because apparently that's one way you get it. Or maybe I'm... That is... That is not... Yeah. Nobody has ever said... And I thought, well, damn...
Starting point is 00:02:54 Farring one's face gives you pink eye. Well, I don't want to go talk about this then. that's the response I'm going to get from everyone. Who farted in your face? So I got a real, real bad case of pink eye. Y'all piss on each other in your family. Stop it. So I went to the doctor.
Starting point is 00:03:10 So my eye was bothering me a little bit, and I kind of had a pretty good understanding of what it was. I'd had pink eye back in the seventh grade. My eye was welded shut in the morning, you know, all glued together. And so I go, and I am, it is freaking uncomfortable. It ain't itching. it ain't. I was supposed to put my drops in this morning to think about it and I didn't do it.
Starting point is 00:03:31 You still got it? Well, no, but they want you to keep using the drops to make sure all the infections are gone because apparently it can come back. But I forgot this morning, damn it. Oh, and I know why. I'll tell you that in a minute. But anyways, this, follow me here.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I'm going to be rambling. Okay. I go in there and he's like, oh, this is, he said like three long, weird words. And I went, well, is that pink eye? And it goes, yeah, it's a form of it. It's the worst type you can have. And what would, it didn't itch or anything, but the crust and goo and stuff that dries up in your eyelashes would get back in your eye.
Starting point is 00:04:15 And man, it felt like you were walking around with a sliver of plastic debris in your eye all day. You're blinking constantly trying to get it to go away, you know, like anytime you get anything in your eye, like I. eyelash or something or some dirt. And it's like it never goes, it never leaves your eye. Oh, freaking day, I was miserable. I promise you, man, it was something you don't want to mess with. Right. And he says to the lady, he goes, hey, how many cases of pink eye to have, we're sitting
Starting point is 00:04:46 in the office with his assistant. And he turns to her and goes, how many cases of pink eye we had here lately? And she goes a ton. And so I got pink eye, went on this trip. Our receptionist here at Junior Motorsports at the front desk got pink eye, same week. The guy that cleans out my fish tank at the house, he ends up getting pink eye. So, like, I mean, I haven't heard of pink eye or seen anybody that's gotten it since I had it in the seventh grade. Like, it's not a common thing, right?
Starting point is 00:05:13 And then all of a sudden, boom, everybody has it? Yeah, the doctor's like, man, there's been a big rash of pink eye going around. It's just the strangest thing. I don't know, odd. But anyways, I go, are you looking to try? Yeah. I don't see anything problem. I don't look squinty.
Starting point is 00:05:28 Yeah, you should be fine. Other than my natural squint. Yeah. I'm self-conscious about this now. So far, so good, though. I feel good. I, um, I end up going on this trip with Amy's family to Texas all last week with their girls and a bunch of us. And a bunch of us stayed in this house in this community.
Starting point is 00:05:46 And this house, this community, so you're driving down the, we're in the coast of Texas, coastline of Texas, and you're driving down the road. And there's nothing. There's no development or no homes or anything. And then there'll be like a purpose-built neighborhood right on the side of the beach, right? Right on the side of the road. It's like the Truman Show. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:09 And all the houses are really, really close together. And as soon as you pull in there, it's like golf carts everywhere, families all over the place, you know, pool, you know, beach toys and every, it's music playing. And it's like this little. That does feel like a Truman Show. Yes. It was like this little bubble of calamity. and beach goers, right? And so that was fun.
Starting point is 00:06:31 We spent four or five days there, went out on the beach and hung out with our kids and watched them play. And I had to do the Zoom for the show here, which, you know, isn't favorable, but it's what I didn't want to not do the show, right? So we did the show. I did come home and do the Thursday episode here in the studio.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Yeah. And then we left. to go on another trip without the kids. So we had, you ever heard of the vacation from a vacation? Oh yeah. I know, every parent knows what you're talking about, for sure. We tried it. Oh, amazing?
Starting point is 00:07:10 Was it amazing? Yeah, it was pretty good. Where'd you go? We went to a place called the bungalows and key Largo. Bungalows and Key Largo. The bungalows and Key Largo has been around for about four years. I'd never been there before. It's an all-inclusive.
Starting point is 00:07:24 There's not any of those really in the United States. States as far as, you know, if you go all-inclusive, you've got to go, you got to take a passport, you know, you're going to go to the Bahamas or somewhere, you're going to go down to Mexico or whatever, right? It's really unique. I'm sure there are some all-inclusive resorts in this country, but it's really unique in the fact that a lot of, you know, it's rare in that area, especially down in Key West. And it was amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:53 And so, I mean, the place is clean, beautiful, amazing staff. rooms are these little they are bungalows exactly what they sound like they're small but um everything you need a couple restaurants on property a tiki bar big pool big hot tub all the a lot of you know you're right on the water looking out into this bay boats out there floating perfect yeah they had the little tiki boat they did you rent you rent it for an hour there's two of them and you just give them you know time that you want to take it out and they'll take you around the bay for an hour grab your cooler and just cruise around on this little teaky pontoon type thing we did that we left and went and ate there's a place in Kilaru called the fish house the fish house
Starting point is 00:08:42 that we used to always drive down from homestead and eat at oh yes I remember that yep that's right we went in there and eight so I got to take Amy and then it's very authentic yeah it's a great It's, yeah. Right off the highway there. Yeah, I remember team dinner's there a lot of times. Yes, yes, yes. 18. That's right.
Starting point is 00:09:03 And so we had a great time. But the vacation from the vacation, I can't do, I'm not good at the long trips anymore. When I was in my 20s and my 30s, I could do a trip with Amy or my buddies or whatever, and I wanted it to go as long as it could go. I was going to take every, the opportunity. from the minute I didn't have to work till I had to go back to work. If that was a week, if it was two weeks, I was on the thrower to wire. Yep.
Starting point is 00:09:33 I can't do it anymore. I think, you know, two nights is enough for me. Really? Yeah. I mean, the Texas trip was fun, but I, and I think the Texas trip was fun. The vacation from the vacation was fun in Key Largo, but it's really how it disconnects to me from everything else got going. got going on in my life. So I feel like I have a million balls in the air,
Starting point is 00:10:04 juggling constantly all year long, right? And we say yes to everything. We buy the cars tour. We are doing this. We're going to go over here and do this. NASCAR wants us to do this 75th anniversary commercial. We're going to do this today. We're going to, we got a Zoom call tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:10:20 We got the, there's a million things going on. And when you step out of that treadmill, you know, and when you get off of that thing, it's hard to get back on it. Oh, yeah. You know? It's hard to come back from any vacation. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:10:35 And so that's more and more difficult. As much as you want to be home sometimes, I'm tracking with everything you're saying here. Sometimes you just want to be back in your own bed. Yeah. But coming back to work sometimes is really rough. Yeah. Coming back to work and trying to pick up where you left off. And not feel like your mind.
Starting point is 00:10:55 Everybody that didn't go on vacation still humming along, right? Yeah. And they're in step. This is right. And you're like, hey, let's talk about the show. And you're like, I just want to go to bed. I did. And I'm like, all right, well, call me, man.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I ain't going to call. Come on. Fair enough. Fair enough. That was the. Was that snarky? A little. Was it?
Starting point is 00:11:13 I was gassed. Man, every night when we put the kids to bed, Amy's like, I'm so glad to go to, I can't wait to go to sleep. I'm like, no, man, this is my hour or two hours to do whatever I want. last night, man. I climbed in bed. Like, I'm done. That's good. And I slept hard all the way to 8.30 this morning. And I aim, I have to be out the door at 8.30, 8.30 at the latest to get the girls to school. Amy comes up there and goes, hey, man, I've been hollering. You're late. It's 8.30. So I had to jump out. Hold up. I just had pains of nostalgia from back of the days.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Boy, I tell you, it just hit me all at once. Hey, we're, late. Get up. Why are you not awake? Come on. Get dressed. Let's go. I had to, I was, I got up at 8.30, and I showered, brushed my teeth, put on my clothes, came downstairs, and got Ila, her bag, grabbed a fig bar and a drink and was in the car at 837. God dang, track record. Yeah. So, oh yeah. How about this? That's a seven-minute qualifying lap right there. That is pretty impressive.
Starting point is 00:12:29 From bed to car with shower and breakfast in between. That's seven minutes. That's impressive. So remember the guy on the street that was a little hole on the street that cut us off a couple weeks ago? Oh, that you talked about. Yeah, you were real pissed off about that. All right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Uh-oh. So, not rain into another on my trip. Maybe it's you. Might be. This is, so the BBC boys, they got their idiot of the week, right? Yeah. This is going to be my idiot of the week. I want to hear it.
Starting point is 00:13:00 So we're on our last day of our trip in Key Largo in all-inclusive bungalows. Everybody that we've met there is having a great time. They're all, they're all-inclusive vacation. Everybody there is trying to enjoy everything that comes with. that, right? And when you do the, when you, when you do an all-inclusive trip, typically you rarely leave the resort. So you see the same people at dinner. You see the same people at breakfast. And there's a understanding, man, that you all got to get along because your ass is going to be around each other when you go to the bar later that night. When you go to dinner, everybody has to
Starting point is 00:13:43 keep it together, man. Don't start no shit. Right. Right. And so. It's an island. Yeah. We're sitting there in the hot tub and kind of a large hot tub so that it was multiple multiple people can get in we're down on one end of it me and Amy
Starting point is 00:14:02 and another couple and this other group was in the hot tub a couple guys and some girls that were in there when we walked up and one of the girls said hey my son
Starting point is 00:14:16 who's a big fan of yours I was like man that's nice to tell him I said hey we had a very brief but nice interaction. Great people. One of their crew, this fella comes wandering up, and he's been over at the Tiki Bar. And they're like, where are you been?
Starting point is 00:14:35 He's like, I've been over here meeting all kinds of people. And he figures out who I am in the moment, walks right up to me and goes, first thing he says, only thing he says, Jimmy Johnson won a lot more races than you, didn't he? Oh my God, that is hilarious. Oh, my God. I mean, of all things to say.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Oh, my God, that is the funniest thing ever. What did you say back? I said, he's a seven-time champion. Right. He won more racist than just about everybody. Yes. and that was it yeah
Starting point is 00:15:25 and then he left he just walked on the way did it ruin your day it got it did a little it stuck in you it kind of was like that thing in your eye right a little annoyance
Starting point is 00:15:34 I just was thinking of all I mean I was just thinking like man what brings what makes you want to do that rum rum okay there you go
Starting point is 00:15:45 he came from the bar yeah that's why I don't drink feeling good I don't drink no rum I mean of all the things you could have said in that moment.
Starting point is 00:15:53 What, if you saw somebody, I mean, you know, you see a celebrity somewhere, somebody of any kind of recognition sitting somewhere, you're going to go, I'm going to go with this guy. Right, right. Like if you see Tom Hanks and you're like, mailman sucked. Yeah. Was that a movie of his? Something about male.
Starting point is 00:16:12 All right, yeah. Well, see, then he would have been like, yeah, I don't know what you're talking about. He would have had a better comeback than I did. That is weird. to throw you off, man. See, that's the thing. You're decompressed. You're enjoying your life.
Starting point is 00:16:25 You're in a hot tub. You're hanging out with friends and somebody comes and steps at you. Yeah. You know, I was sitting there thinking, this is exactly one of those moments where something wrong. If I say something,
Starting point is 00:16:36 if I say what I want to say, it's going to escalate. And they'll end up on TMZ. And then, you know, then everybody in this place is going to hear, I mean, it's going to take seconds for it to sort of travel around. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:49 And everybody in the place will know, they have their own version of whatever it is that happened. Oh, dear, oh, Jenner's mad at this guy. Oh, I mean, listen, if you would have even come back at him with even a little bit of animosity, then the cell phone cameras would have come out and started capturing everything. They had, they might have already been out at that moment. I wasn't really looking around. Well, you diffused it is what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:17:12 You just said, whatever. That's a good point, man. Could have been, could have. They could already have a cell phone out. I don't know. Might have. Yeah. I would have.
Starting point is 00:17:19 Waiting on my response. I would have. Yeah. Content, man. Man, I was, I was just, you know, that so rarely happens that it was like, hmm. Okay. I know the friends you were with. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:31 What did they laugh? No, not really. Everybody was kind of like, what the hell was that? You know, why would you do that? Boy, you know what? Did Amy show restraint? Because even she would come off saying, you know, at least getting her word in. I think Amy did.
Starting point is 00:17:45 Yeah. Everybody was cool. Mm. Gosh. Jimmy Johnson had what wins than you. He got me. He got you. You know when you've been got.
Starting point is 00:17:54 You've been got. That was clever. Anyways, we got back from the vacation yesterday. We are back into the treadmill, and we got a lot to talk about. Denny Hamlin has decided to appeal his penalty. He went on his show yesterday. What was his, I haven't listened to it. What was his whole thing?
Starting point is 00:18:24 His whole thing, yesterday and action is detrimental, was simply just explaining why he decided to go from not appealing, which he tweeted last week, to deciding to appeal. And he just explained the conversation of Coach Gibbs and the race team and what led to that. I don't know how, I don't feel a whole lot of confidence. And that him winning the appeal? And him, you know, changing it whatsoever. I would fight it too. I mean, I feel like it is the, I would fight it too because I feel like whether he's got, he's got a case or not, the points are so important. He has to try to get some of those points back.
Starting point is 00:18:58 And so if you can get the points back, even if you pay more fine, like Byron did last year, where he had the same penalty as Denny and his got shifted away from points to more money. I think I'd be trying to make that happen. But I don't feel like, I just don't feel like Denny has a ton of leverage here. Maybe he doesn't have a ton of leverage, but he does have a lot of leverage. but he does have a lot of facts and data that he feel. And listen, he's not appealing this just to go through the motions and appeal and try to get points back. He thinks he will win.
Starting point is 00:19:33 He believes it. He believes in his case. 100%. He believes in his case. And to be honest with you, seeing some of the things that I've seen since all then, I think he does have a case. And I think that there's a lot more writing on this appeals than just what we think. Just, oh, let's just try to get some points back. I think that this is a pretty big deal.
Starting point is 00:19:50 Another thing that I thought was fascinating is so HMS and colleague are appealing their penalties. We had our own take on all of that last Tuesday and or last Thursday, right, on our Thursday show. Right. So we had a, we, after the penalties come out, and the feedback that I was getting immediately from our comments was, oh y'all just love HMS you're just an HMS fanboy you used to race for them and you're always going to be in their corner I think that's fair yeah it's a fair it's true yeah used to race for HMS but then but then um the uh the you know all of the people at HMS checking out and all them went and did some media at Atlanta colleague was more started to be more vocal about why they're going to appeal and how the
Starting point is 00:20:47 process went down for them, right? Once everybody started hearing all of this information, I saw the tide change a little bit in terms of how people, you know, just the general public's opinion of maybe how this might go, which was kind of interesting to me, more interesting, you know, maybe more interesting than the actual appeal itself and whatever, whatever happens with that. Well, explain. What do you mean? Well, I think that, you know, the details, in the details of HMS and what they think happened,
Starting point is 00:21:17 and the, you know, the issues that they perceive going on with the parts and the parts being the parts supplier and all that. Colleague coming in and basically backing all that information up with their own opinions about the parts supplier. They had one louver taken. One was okay. Right. So I think that this really, this, I feel more, I would, I feel better about their chance to win or change their penalty than the Denny penalty. But you have more information on their thing.
Starting point is 00:21:48 I mean, again, I think that it's all on how much evidence and how much data you can compile. But I'm just saying right now, Mike, that I think that when the penalty came down from HMS, everybody thought, yeah, well, I mean, if NASCAR says they touched this, you know, worked on this little specific area and they're not supposed to, they're wrong. If they did that, they're wrong. Even if they said they could change the part to make it fit the car. If they touch this area, they're not supposed to touch. there's nothing, I mean, nothing you can do. They've got to be penalized. But I think that ever since, I guess as more information came out and as HMS and colleague
Starting point is 00:22:24 were speaking in the media this weekend, it seems to be sort of splitting public opinion 50-50 on who's right and who's wrong and what might happen here. I think that's fascinating. Usually it's all one-sided. Really? I feel like it usually is. Like the public feels like the teams absolutely got busted. It may be a little more understanding on what exactly the team.
Starting point is 00:22:45 are doing or what they did to cheat or that NASCAR is not correct in this decision. They don't, you know, usually it's more one-sided. The last time I thought felt it was all one-sided, it actually ended up going the other way. And that was with William Byron last year, you know, and I thought when he got his penalty, I thought they were dead in the water. Yeah. And then they ended up getting that back and rescind it. So I don't even pretend to know how appeals processes even go.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I don't know what goes into it. I don't even know who's actually doing the hearing. Like who is, it's a third party, I'm assuming? Yeah, it's sort of this person that's not involved in it. They might have some history in NASCAR, but it's a different person. Okay. Well, can I just say then on the Denny case? Listen, I think if you go back and look at the reasons NASCAR cited, the words that NASCAR cited as a reason for the penalty,
Starting point is 00:23:38 I do think there is a strong argument against it. And one is being that he manipulated a race. and a strong argument can be made on how every decision by every driver and every pit crew and two tires versus four tires, everything is going to manipulate the outcome of the race if that's how we're going to define it. So if we're going to penalize what manipulating of the race, then it opens up that can of worms and say, well, tell me something that doesn't actually manipulate the race. That's what you're out there to do. You're racing, right?
Starting point is 00:24:08 So I think that that's a slippery slope if you're NASCAR. And I think it can be argued. The other thing is on whether he intentionally wrecked him. Now listen, Denny said what he said on his podcast. He didn't frame it right. And he might have actually been going, you know, trying to be entertaining because he's, you know, new at the podcasting thing. And so he's like, I'll let the wheel go, boy. But the data, I don't think actually supports that.
Starting point is 00:24:32 And if you go look at it, nobody out there thought that anything agreed just happened. And there's analytics. There's information pumped into them race cars that they can go pull them and see exactly where that wheel was. And if that doesn't support what Denny said on the podcast, there's an argument to be made that that penalty should not be levied or at least it should be rescinded in some point. And that's all I'm saying. So I think he does have a compelling case. He looked at it and he said this on the podcast. When he looked at what they were penalizing him for, he says, I didn't do this stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I did not do it. And he calls coach back and he says, coach, I didn't do the things that they're saying I did. and then they go, well, you said it, if you say, if you say, well, you did it on, you said it on the podcast, well, then that's a different, that's a different situation. They didn't say they penalized him for comments on a podcast. They said they penalized him for things on the track. If they came back and said, well, you said it on the podcast, well, that's a dangerous territory too. And that's where I really want to defend Denny, because, listen, we got to be able to say things on a podcast. We got to be able to say things. And listen, door bumper clear is going to say it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Denny's going to say things. And they're not always going to be factually accurate. And we're just going to say because we go off emotions and feelings. But that's also something that they haven't claimed that they're penalizing for podcast comments. And let the data speak for itself. I think Denny's got a compelling case, frankly. I really do. So, and I hope he gets the points back for sure.
Starting point is 00:26:03 I hope he does. Yeah, I don't know. I get a little nervous about his chances. Can I make NASCAR's counter argument real quick? on one thing that I want to say, because I like to at least try to get both sides of the argument here. I do think NASCAR feels like they've let drivers. I put out a series of tweets last night that I'm like, I'm always going to want our content contributors and our drivers and our athletes and our stars to be able to speak their mind without any type of repercussions. And I know NASCAR feels like they let they do that already.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And I think it's worth at least acknowledging that. Like they say the drivers have been saying things for years and they don't get penalties for them. that, you know, there have been times in the past where you've said something and you had a penalty threatened against you, but you didn't actually get penalized for it. And so I do think that there is some give and taking that. I do think NASCAR would probably feels like they're getting, they're in a no-win situation because opinion, you know, they're going to get beat up on and they're going to get ridiculed. I think that comes with the territory or the governing body. You know, it just comes with the territory. But the fact of the matter is is that, yes, if they have
Starting point is 00:27:08 allowed drivers to speak their minds more often without penalty, it should be at least worth acknowledging that. I don't know that to be true. How could I? I'm not in those situations. I'm not in those boardrooms or whatever. But if that's what NASCAR feels like, it's worth at least saying that for our audience to be able to take into consideration. I think that NASCAR probably wishes that podcasts, podcasters like ourselves and other XM radio and all that would move on, you know. Well, yeah, that's dangerous. Well, I'm just saying, like, this is a storyline happening in the sport. Like I said last week, the penalties and whatever happens with all of this will have to be discussed because of how they change the points system going forward.
Starting point is 00:27:56 You know, the points battles, right? As we get further closer to the playoffs, you know, we're going to have to talk about these penalties and so forth and everything that went down with those. because they will probably be part of that storyline in the point system in the playoffs and drivers making it, not making it. Maybe, you know, the HMS driver doesn't make it through to the next round in the playoffs, and we can draw a B right to the points that they lost in this penalty if it all holds up. But anyhow, I – That's an important point. I'm glad you said that.
Starting point is 00:28:33 They are making sure that the narrative continues. with the points penalties. If you just find them or did something else or maybe whatever you do, then it can go away. But points penalty is going to make sure that you, especially as a broadcaster, has to keep bringing it up. But, I mean, you know, I like them coming down hard when it's justified and somebody's done something wrong. I like them to do things that are going to deter this across the board and frighten the entire garage, right, from mess. and around in any gray area. And points are the one thing that that is so precious to these teams.
Starting point is 00:29:12 And so for years it was mostly monetary fines. And points were only done when it was such a severe situation. But now points are more common in these fines. And that's because NASCAR knows that that's one thing that the teams are really not willing to give up. They can figure out, they can find a way to pay that monetary fine. They can figure that out. They can make that work on the book. Well, in Denny's case, he's got a $50,000 fine on him, and he's already offering to pay Josh Williams fine, whatever that is. So clearly, to your point, the monetary penalties don't really hit home very well like the points would. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:29:58 and I think that's probably why I think that's probably why this conversation around Denny colleague HMS is so big will continue to be so big is because of the points involved in those penalties and how that will change the season for those teams moving forward
Starting point is 00:30:19 and how we're so captivated whether they will be able to appeal them back Josh Williams parks his car on the front straightaway during the race NASCAR told him to park it so you're running around the racetrack and anything comes off your car. It's in the rule book that if you lose any debris off your car, you've got to pull in and park it. I didn't know about this rule, but apparently it is in the rule book. Y'all had Josh Williams on door bumper clear yesterday to talk about this.
Starting point is 00:30:49 The guys told him he was an idiot and that he's probably going to get parked for a week. I tend to agree with them. Is that a fair assessment of Andrew? Andrew, speaking it, Andrew, you're the... Is that a fair assessment of the door bumper clear opinion on them? Yeah, Brett made multiple points of saying, yeah, you're probably going to be watching this race on TV on Saturday. So, yeah. I feel like that that's probably likely and a fair penalty for something like that.
Starting point is 00:31:18 You know, I like Josh, he's a great guy. I joke around that he's kind of the Kenny Powers of our Finney. series and that's a total that's a total Kenny Powers move total Kenny Powers move and so that's why I mean I swear the comparisons are right there to draw but
Starting point is 00:31:36 you you know you can't interrupt delay you can't you can't interrupt the delay the race itself or do anything that you know you
Starting point is 00:31:51 just you can't do that but and I think he probably realizes that going forward. So I think whatever NASCAR tends to do for this particular penalty, I think it's probably a fair one. Also, the biggest publicity, I don't want to call it a publicity stunt because that would suggest that he'd orchestrated that premeditated. But the biggest publicity that he could have possibly gotten ever, probably, right?
Starting point is 00:32:18 I mean, like this thing was on ESPN, this thing was everywhere. Josh Williams has been everywhere since doing that. and I think he's got a lot of fans because of it, too. Again, I don't envy NASCAR's position. I mean, what are you going to do? The children have run amok here. They've climbed the fence of the playground. They're running out in the streets now.
Starting point is 00:32:35 I get it. It's wild, wild, wild. But it was hilarious. I mean, it was hilarious. Do you think that it helps him going forward? Big picture, does this help? It depends on what happens with this penalty if he gets one. I think that, like, if he's said, Dale, on,
Starting point is 00:32:54 television. He was about to get interviewed, and they had this camera and the mic on him in the pit box, and he's like, what are they going to do? Find me? I can't afford it. And man, that made me really kind of like brace myself because, like, right, if you can't afford it, remember what happened to Carl Long when he got that, that huge penalty? Like $100,000, something like that. That basically eliminated him from ever driving a car again, ever. And so I worry about that for Josh. I think that's why Denny kind of spoke up and said, I'll help pay his fine. David Reagan tweeted he'll help pay his fine.
Starting point is 00:33:28 Like everybody's wanting to go support him. Not because they think what he did is right, but just because he's an underdog, and he gave us this moment of joy, or gave us this moment of, you know, entertainment or humor, and you just don't want to see him have to, you know, fall on the sword completely on his own, I guess. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:48 My reaction to it was kind of similar to Joe Lugano's. I think Joe was in the booth and he was, it's kind of like, oh, no, no, no, don't do this. Right, right, right. Yeah, I think that's that. Josh, don't do this. Josh, don't do this. Because you know that NASCAR's not going to like it.
Starting point is 00:34:05 NASCAR is going to, they're forced to react to this. Of course. Right. They don't want to do things. They don't want to do negative things to Josh Williams. They like his personality and what he brings to the Xfinity series, but they don't have a choice here. and hopefully it's not a monetary fine and it's a you know he sits out for a week or
Starting point is 00:34:26 or a race or two whatever whatever they deem necessary but my my whole I don't know that it helps Josh going forward in terms of his career his future opportunities right you know that's what I'm looking at like he he's trying he's I I know Josh is working as hard as anybody in that garage to get the opportunities that he feels would give him a chance to show people what he can do and that he belongs in the series and could drive, you know, good race cars to wins. And so does that put him in a better situation to do those things or to get those opportunities? That's what I worry about. As mad as he was or frustrated or whatever in the moment, you can't sort of hijack the race there.
Starting point is 00:35:19 but yeah i mean fans are going to love it because they don't have to worry about the fine they don't have to sit out a week they think you know they can sit there and get joy from it and all those things but they don't have to deal with the repercussions of it that josh will have to deal with just our guy after the what was that i heard something too i did too okay did you still working oh that's what it was someone's oh man it's my phone serious how did you wonder what i said um just Justin Algeyer, in his post-crash interview during Xfinity race, says that he feels embarrassed for the sport right now.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think he's referring to the Atlanta reconfiguration or and the number of cautions in the Xfinity race. Did the Xfinity race have a unique amount of cautions? There were 12 cautions for 68 laps. And then he got caught up in that. It was a pretty big crash. That, you know, again, a junior motor sports driver was involved in, triggered it.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Yep. Well, intentionally, but still. That was frustrating. Our guys seem to not be able to avoid having some sort of a moment during the race where they, they get together. And I know that many times this year it's not been intentional.
Starting point is 00:36:37 It's just hard racing. If you're going to have four fast cars or four cars that run really similarly, whether that's great or not great, you know, they're going to, they're going to, they're going to hit each other from time to time or have to race each other hard from time to time. And so we know that all too well, and that's no big deal. But, man, it seems like it's just been a bad bit of circumstances that keep our guys kind of bouncing off each other at some point. And I know it's tough for Justin because that's two weeks in a row, Phoenix and this weekend in Atlanta, where he's got the bad end of the deal between, you know, content.
Starting point is 00:37:18 attack with our race cars. And he's dealt with that in the past when he's, you know, he's like, man, I'm trying to, you know, trying to be a good teammate and I just keep ending up getting, getting fenced. But I think that this reconfiguration in Atlanta is actually going to be a pretty incredible racetrack. And when we see repaves, usually in this sport, what ends up happening is the cars run right on the bottom of the racetrack, you do not want to get outside of that bottom groove, and it takes a long, long time.
Starting point is 00:37:53 It's a single, and when they repaved Michigan, it was a one groove track. And if you got anywhere out of that, I mean, it was treacherous just passing somebody. The lap cars didn't want to move off that line. So when you caught them, it took some effort and thought how to get around them without slowing yourself down and costing yourself position. It was treacherous, man. And it was like that for several trips to that race. track before it finally started getting a little bit wider. Atlanta is already
Starting point is 00:38:21 comfortably too wide. Atlanta is already a track where you can run high, you can run low, and it's a repave. It just got repaved. And it's already gotten nice and wide. There's plenty of room. There is a there's a lot of, so the problem with the junior motor sports cars, I didn't realize this. So I'm watching the race and I'm like, well, why won't our guys move forward? How come they can't move forward. Are they not, you know, the 48, Parker Klingeman down there working his guts out, trying to make something happen. Let's get down there and do that.
Starting point is 00:38:50 Try to help him, see what we can do. But the balance on our cars, what I would find out afterwards is our cars didn't handle well. And the balance of the cars was not comfortable enough for them to be able to be aggressive. And so it's not a racetrack where they're pinned on the mat wide open, just driving around with tons of grip. So it's got, you know, the cars. are uncomfortable, they're hard to drive there, but they can run two and three wide. As that track continues to age year after year, race after race, it is going to get better and better and better.
Starting point is 00:39:25 And I promise you that this will be, maybe it is not today as far as being a, it's not a popular race track among the drivers' minds. You know, if you went and polled all the drivers and got their honest opinion about it, they'd probably say, yeah, I prefer not to, you know, I'd prefer not to, you know, I'd prefer a little different. Maybe I wish they wouldn't have reconfigured it. I wish they would have just repave the old Atlanta. I wish we could have the old surface back.
Starting point is 00:39:52 They're going to have all kinds of opinions, but they probably wouldn't say what it is now is at the top of their list. But I believe that in the next four or five years, as this thing continues to evolve and they start having to lift a little bit, they're sliding around a little more, and they're a little off throttle, they're going to really start to like this track. And so I'm holding, I mean, I didn't, the first time they go back there, last year, man, I wouldn't have wanted to do that. I don't want to go to any, I don't know any driver,
Starting point is 00:40:24 and I'm certainly one of them that doesn't want to go to a repave. Nobody wants to go to a freshly paved track and race. It's just not, it's just too much grip and it's single file, and it's one groove. But it's already opening it up and turning into a racetrack where handling matters, and you as a driver can make a difference, right? If you have, if you do the right things, look at Eric Jones there on the last lap of that race. Right. And the moves he made.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Was that something? Yeah. It's fascinating. It's amazing. And I think that that track is going to start to deliver more and more great, great racing product as we move forward. Yeah. And I think, you know, Justin, that was a lot of frustration over just two terrible weeks where he's been put in a bad situation. Nothing of his own doing, you know.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So, but I really think that I wanted, I was watching that race and I'm thinking, man, We're right on the cusp of this. It's not there yet, but this track is going to be fantastic. Once that surface gets a little more age on it, they're running from the apron to the wall, and once it starts to get some age and they start to have to lift more, balance is already a problem, when they really, really need to get those cars handling better
Starting point is 00:41:31 and start having some off-throddle, man. It's going to be pretty fascinating to watch. Sunday, Joe Lugano goes on and breaks Chevrolet's four-race wind streak. That was fascinating watching the moves Joey made at the end of the race. Joey and Brad, two of the best, you know, I would say super speedway racers. Watching them two go at it and trying to make moves and fend off moves was a lot of fun. Great ending to that race. Joey, no surprise to see him go to Victor Lane at a place like Atlanta or Talladega or Daytona.
Starting point is 00:42:08 Corley Joy finished his fourth, career best finished for him. He almost won at Atlanta last year. Remember the late block on him and Chase Elliott. So, I mean, that's a track where I think that he's gaining more and more confidence. Wouldn't be surprised to see him go back there and get a win. He just needed a little more track position late in that race to be able to do that. And they're now 14th in points. I'm getting some serious furniture row vibes here from this team.
Starting point is 00:42:38 So Corey has been driving for Spire for several years now. This off season, Spire has been working really, really hard. We've had them here in the studio discuss their model, their business model. We understand a lot about what they were doing over the last several years, but they have positioned themselves this all season to make that choice, to finally take that program up several notches. They invested more money in engines, in resources. They're still not where a Joe Gisdivis.
Starting point is 00:43:14 racing is or a Hendrick motorsports, but they have gotten, they've made a personal effort to get closer, right? And if they, by making that effort, that personal effort to spend this more money, spend this, spend more money to run faster, they have to finish higher, right? That's the way their business model works. They're going to spend this much and they expect Corey to go out there and get this result, at least this result. And so they put some trust, I think, in Corey this year to go out there and say, hey, man, we're going to spend some more money. That means we're going to need to run instead of 25th. We need you to run 15th, 20th.
Starting point is 00:43:56 We need top 20s instead of top 25s for this business model of ours to work out. And so it's really, really fascinating. I think it's something that everyone can get behind. It's kind of, you know, it's took them a long time to be able to get into this position. And I'm serious, man. And it's just like Furniture Row. You could see Spire competing for wins in less than a year or two. They could sneak out a win at Atlanta or somewhere like that this year.
Starting point is 00:44:23 But I'm saying when we go to the mile and a halfs and the short tracks and these other race tracks, you might start seeing that seven car up front with more regularity. Can I ask you real quick about Corey? You know, you've always struck me as being able to notice drivers. that get more out of their car and finish better than what they should be, right? Obviously, Corey now is in that boat, right? Like, he's finishing better with a car that should not. Is that fair to say?
Starting point is 00:44:55 Well, you know, I think that Corey is a great race car driver, hungry, smart, makes his risk assessment and being able to, so his risk assessment is really, really good. and I think that's why he's able to take that. That car, you know, ran forth this past weekend. I think there's several drivers that would have been able to get that type of result in this car, but Corey does it more regularly. Okay. So if it's a 10th place car, Corey can run fifth or fourth with it.
Starting point is 00:45:30 Now, when it was a 30th place car, he wasn't asked to try to run 20th or 15th. He was just asked to try to finish 25th or 30th, right? Yeah. Yeah. Well, the reason I ask, though, is because I'm curious. Everybody sits there and talks, the narrative in the past several weeks is we would love to see Corey actually in good equipment. I was listening to Jeff Gluck's 12 question podcast this past week, and these are the questions that he gets asked. Like, what would you be?
Starting point is 00:45:54 What do you think you would love most about being with an A-list team? And as uncomfortable as that would be for Corey to answer that, being that he's not with an A-list team and he's with his fire and they're overachieving. I'm wondering if his stock is going up in the eyes of owners like yourself, you're an owner, not in the Cups series, but you're an owner, and if people are actually seeing what Corey's doing as in a legitimate top choice for a replacement or to fill in seats. Is he raising his stock that much to actually be one of the top choices to fill a top tier seat? I think the industry has felt that way about Corey for years
Starting point is 00:46:34 and that the public perception of Corey has now starting to match that. Okay. And so, you know, when I watched Corey race in the, in the K&N series and make, you know, his few Arka starts, it was amazing to see what he was able to do against the other teams he was racing with. And you also knew not only was Corey doing great things on the track, driving the car, but he was also responsible for how good that car was because he was one of the people working on it, putting together, right, preparing the car during the week.
Starting point is 00:47:11 He could prepare a car, take it to the racetrack, and that would be a fast race car that anyone would run well in, but he would be able to take it to the next level. And so that's one of the things that's fascinating for me about Corey is there's some drivers that don't know anything about the car. Couldn't point out, you know, couldn't tell you what the upper A arm is versus the lower A arm. They couldn't pull them off a shelf, right? Go over there and get me an upper A arm. They might bring you back to the rear lower. You know, I would probably be one of those people, right, with this next-gen car. But Corey knows the race car, right?
Starting point is 00:47:49 He's around it, he's underneath it. He's worked on them. I wouldn't be surprised if he is involved in working on the next-gen car. You know, at some point, they sort of, you know, don't want the drivers really doing that type of work. But, I mean, Spire, who knows what kind of responsibilities he has. he's one of the few guys, I guess, in the garage that's mechanically minded, has a little bit of engineering understanding, and knows how to make a race car go fast
Starting point is 00:48:21 and what the car needs to be doing with geometry and all those things. And so now not all of that translate to the next-gen car. Not all the things that he's learned in a late model in an N-car and an arc of car is going to continue to be useful information. But he's just, he's just sharp, man. And with the blue collar mentality, it sounds like. You know, he just, he has that instinct to be able to be one with his car and know it just instinctually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:53 And while, you know, while I think that if he had the chance to go and drive, say, for, you know, Rick, for Hendrick in the nine car when, you know, when Chase gets hurt, if he gets a chance to go in there, Yes, he would probably go in there and do really great things. But then what happens to Spire during that process, right? Who drives that car and how does that affect their investment they made this all season? Now, you know, and does that sort of derail this very difficult, cherished momentum they have, right? Yeah, it definitely disrupts it. It certainly would.
Starting point is 00:49:30 And then when Corey has to get out of the nine car and chase. comes back, Corey goes back to the seven, and maybe the seven's not where it would be had he been driving it consistently week in and week out, right? And now that momentum that they've created, you know, is, is somewhat disrupted. Then their business model doesn't work. They're not able to run 15th to 20th. Now they're back to 23rd, 25th. They're losing, you know, they're losing on that business model, week in and week out. And they may, you know, that may force them to have to make adjustments they don't want to make, right? That's the worry, I guess, about, you know, Corey leaving that team.
Starting point is 00:50:07 They are, I mean, I told him, I sat down with him a year ago, two years ago, and I said, we was in his motorhome, and he said, he's like, man, you know, I, I am so lucky to have this opportunity. I really, I really am. It's just frustrating sometimes, but I know I'm lucky to be here. And I said, you just need to hang on to that. You may one day be sitting in this seven car and thinking that you are exactly where you need to be. This ride is exactly what you wanted your dream to be.
Starting point is 00:50:45 This car could develop into that type of car that performs every single week. And if you leave or would leave prematurely, the next person that gets in there gets to enjoy that success. And you're going to go, wow, look at that seven. car used to drive up there in the top five. Yeah. You don't want to make that mistake. Yeah. You know, so.
Starting point is 00:51:08 So enjoy it and focus on the positive. As hard as it was for him and everyone, right, inspire all the people, all the people that own that company, everybody to grind through those years of having to go to the racetrack, knowing that, you know, a top 20 was going to be an excellent day. he is finally starting to situate himself into a car that he thinks can go running the top 15, the top 10, a top 5 in Atlanta. They're heading in the right direction without a doubt, and hopefully they're able to continue that progression.
Starting point is 00:51:43 And, you know, in another year or two years, continue to take that team up the ladder to be able to compete with the big dogs. Kevin Harvick's going to run the number 29 at North Wilsonboro, in the All-Star race. That was some good news this week. Yeah, I love it. Stuart Hoff's racing is doing a really good job on this video series for Kevin this year to celebrate his final season. I was asked to do some work with that.
Starting point is 00:52:07 It's been fun to watch. It's been fun to celebrate and highlight Kevin this year. And he's going to be doing some cool things, one of them being driving that number 29, that iconic paint scheme that he ran in Atlanta when he relieved my father and won his first race for a Richard Childers at the cup level. I guess Richard Childers had to maybe give a blessing, if you will, for them to run this scheme, or I'm sure Kevin took it over there and said, hey, I want to do this. Oh, that looks great.
Starting point is 00:52:37 Let's do it. Awesome for Stewart-Hawson to allow that flexibility. His partners, you know, everyone has to check off on this number change. It's not an easy thing. So, bravo to everybody who supported this to make the job. this is a reality. I'm sure Kevin's going to enjoy it. I can't wait. We had trucks testing at North Wilsonboro on Monday. I think there's a cup test today. I called Zane Smith yesterday. He said the track's awesome. He said the tire wear is insane. Oh, that is
Starting point is 00:53:10 cool. I guess Carson Hosevar said it's like three seconds to fall off. Wow. I love that. Yeah. It's a war out on racetrack and hopefully we can hang on to that surface just a few more years, whatever the future is for North the Whitsboro Speedway. Hopefully that surface that they have right now is a part of it. All right, Andrew, you want to do some Ash Jr. presented by Xfinity? Let's do it. We are live
Starting point is 00:53:47 on this Tuesday for Ash Jr. Dale, you ready to go? Yeah, let's get it, man. Let's do it. Justin Combs has the first question. He says, what happens inside the hauler when NASCAR calls you in for something? What's the discussion like? Does it feel like going to the principal's office? Well, it depends
Starting point is 00:54:03 on who's going to be handling the discussion. but when I was racing, it was usually Mike Helton. And one time we got called into the holler. And we go up into the lounge and we're sitting there waiting on Mike to come out of the booth. And so when he walked into the door, I started talking. Like, hey man, you, you know, we, I started pleading my case and he said,
Starting point is 00:54:32 you guys are going to keep your mouth shut. I'm going to do the talking. And that's kind of the way it might usually go. But there has been times when I've been in that holler for a conversation with the door bumper clear. Where it was great conversation. It was like, hey, man, we're a podcast. We're going to sensationalize. We're going to talk junk.
Starting point is 00:54:56 We're going to be controversial. None of this is intentional to piss you off or be. you know, be annoying to NASCAR or anybody that works in the industry. This is, you know, that's kind of just the showbiz of the sport, right? The entertainment side of it. And so we had a great conversation where, you know, it was helpful for everybody involved, I think. So, I mean, there's times when I've been in that hauler and it's a, you know, you get a chance to kind of tell your side of things. but then there's other times when you're completely in the wrong
Starting point is 00:55:37 and they're like, look, you're completely in the wrong, just keep your mouth shut and we're going to tell you what the deal is and that's what the deal is. You know, they'll tell you sometimes. It's like, this border was here before you came. It'll be here when you're gone. You're just a blipping the radar. You're just a part of the process.
Starting point is 00:55:55 So just enjoy it or, you know, we're going to find somebody who will come in here and act right. Man, I think my heart would sink. just getting that message like, hey, you've been called to the haul. Like, who calls you to the hauler? That is right, Andrew. So when you do get that message, whether you're still in the car racing or, you know, it's after the race, when they say, hey, man, they want you to come over to the holler, you don't, it's a very nauseous sort of feeling. You're not, you're not like, oh, hell yeah, you know, let's go to the hauler.
Starting point is 00:56:27 Can't wait to tell them what I think. Do you know then that you're instantly regretting whatever it is that's going? getting you called to the hauler for. Go listen to DBC. Josh Williams gives some insights of what happened in that hollower. He got to sit in there for like 150 laps. 140, yeah. Yeah, 140 laps. It is pretty hilarious to hear him talk about it. So that's on this week's podcast. That was funny. This next question coming from Brian, what was the most creative code word that you guys use for pit stops? You know, we hear listening on team radios all the time. Yeah, we never did. Never did. No. The code words kind of came in right, right? Right around.
Starting point is 00:57:03 of time when I was retiring. You know, I would say we were pushing back on that a little bit, or at least I was, and my crew chiefs at the time were not on board with code words. And it was like, man, let's not do anything that's going to confuse us or get us, you know, I don't need to, you know, look up on a thing. Okay, what's that mean? You know, have a cheat card up there. I was just like, look, just tell me, just tell me what we need to do.
Starting point is 00:57:32 It was almost like to, like, who are we if we think that we are so important that we need a special code for being able to put two tires on the car instead of four? I mean, who's really listening going, oh, they're doing two. Everybody change, you know. Like, we weren't never really running good enough to feel like, you know, the last year in 2017, we kind of were, you know, mid-pack, had a couple good runs. but it was kind of like this thing of like, you know, it was almost a, I almost felt like it was like a pompous thing to do. Like I'm going to, I'm going to have some codes, man, so nobody knows what's going on with me.
Starting point is 00:58:12 Now it's kind of necessary, right? Because everybody, there is this ability to literally listen to everything everybody says. And so, sure, I mean, in those moments when it's critical strategy that could, you know, do things that, you know, give you an advantage. A code word would probably be very helpful. But yeah, I mean, it was kind of just starting to come around right when I was easing on out of the sport.
Starting point is 00:58:38 There won't be any code words in my Xfinity starts this year. I heard from Dalton, our new social media coordinator, that you may have gotten a secret message when Washington won the game on Sunday. He wasn't that cryptic about that either. No, they would just say. I got to ask about the name he'd ask about it. who was winning the game. Hearing a red flag, he wasn't.
Starting point is 00:59:02 I wish he would have been code wording. I mean, like, everybody's listening, and now we're going to hear Dale ain't got his head in the game. Better win the race, or they're going to be like, yep, he was focused on football. We really only talk, and this is the damn truth. I mean, I know everybody makes a big deal out of getting football scores during the races. That really only happened at Talladega.
Starting point is 00:59:23 It did. Literally, there were like two races at Talladega, and that would have been there. the only place where I would have been felt comfortable enough to say, hey, yeah, yeah, we're coming for four tires. Great. What's going on with Washington, T.J. Inside, inside.
Starting point is 00:59:42 Touchdown, by the way, you're up by two scores. All right, and you're inside. Like, yeah, it was a red flag. It wasn't even under caution. Okay. We would never, I would never have felt like that would have been appropriate at any of the race. And it happened a couple times at Talladega, and we talk, we brag about it like it was a regular
Starting point is 00:59:58 thing. That's good. That's good. Your mind was in the right place during most races. This next one coming from Doug. During most race. Thank you. Yeah, Andrew, with a slight jab. Well, you said Taledega. Hey, you said Talladega. You're like, well, the only place I asked. So it wasn't, it wasn't all the races. Damn, Mike. This next question coming from Doug, how is learning guitar coming along? Have you given it any more thought?
Starting point is 01:00:24 Nope. Nope. I downloaded this app, tune the guitar, and haven't touched it since. Okay, so you do have a guitar. I do have one, and I do have it tuned. I bought that little guitar buddy, and I just, you know, I just got to sit down. I mean, I've been on this world tour of vacations, so that's kind of been making things difficult. But I'm finally going to be home for a little while, and hopefully this week I got a lot of things to get to. Yeah, I got a lot of things to do. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:53 It's kind of one of those... It's loud, which is, you know, I mean, I've heard someone play the guitar before, and I've strummed the guitar, but for whatever reason, now that there's two kids in the house, and I'm, I'll strum the guitar, and I'm like, wow, I've got to go somewhere. I can't be doing this in the house, right? With the girls around. But it's just
Starting point is 01:01:11 super loud, right? So you pick it up, though? Oh, yeah. Oh, nice. I bet Jimmy Johnson has already learned how to play guitar. I bet Jimmy Johnson already knows three or four songs. Yeah, Jimmy Johnson's like Santana over there. This last one,
Starting point is 01:01:28 You'll have to listen to the rest of the show to get that joke. That's an inside joke. That's right. Listen to the show. A couple of people have asked, have you added any new cars to the race car graveyard, and do you have any that you're iron? No, that's the thing. I don't believe that we have a next gen. So any next gen would be cool, but I mean, literally, you know, the center sections, it's all bolt on, the front clip bolts on, the rear clip bolts on, so I doubt if ever, are they getting rid of the center section of the car.
Starting point is 01:02:02 It ain't like, you know, you're never going to have somebody walk up and go, man, we crashed our next gen, here it is. Right. Especially now. They mean all the cars they can get. They're going to fix the front clip or back clip and it's, you know, they're going to race it again. So I doubt that I'll ever get one of those. And even if you did, you'd only get like the center section that looks nothing like a race car, right?
Starting point is 01:02:25 You're not, you know, you're going to say to somebody, yeah, over there lays the next gin and it's just roll bars. No body parts or nothing, right? So I don't know. We'll see. We'll see. I haven't gotten a new one in a while. And I think that people in the industry have sort of moved on or forgotten that we were doing
Starting point is 01:02:46 that because we were getting calls on the regular. And then when I retired, it kind of started fading off a little bit. But it, yeah. This will get it right back into the, yeah. Yeah, this could be the one. way to get back. Yeah, if you got, I mean, there's been a couple people that have called. Mya Snyder called me after the Daytona crash last year where he flipped that truck
Starting point is 01:03:03 or that car down the back straight away. Yeah. There's been two or three calls. It's usually, oh, Austin Cendrick called me this year about putting a car in. But they had already, I think, I can't remember exactly what the wreck was, but it wasn't a next-gen car. It might have been something from last year, but he wanted to put the car in. And usually the driver, he'll say, hey, he'll say, hey, I. I want to donate a car and I want to come and do some social media around it.
Starting point is 01:03:29 And so that's kind of how it's been happening here lately. So we still get a call or two. Yeah. If you get a next-gen car, teams are going to be like, if they're short on parts. You're like, let's go to Dales. Can we get that back? Yeah, can we get that back? All right.
Starting point is 01:03:41 That's all the time we have for Asht Jr. this week. All right, me all. I appreciate it. Thanks to Xfinity for supporting our show and everything they do in NASCAR, Xfinity 10G network. Super fast. 10G. Nothing's faster. Anyways, if you want to get faster internet or even faster speeds
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Starting point is 01:04:16 doing an awesome job. You guys out there are doing an awesome job. Thanks for everything y'all do to support the Dell Jr. download and everything we do at Dirty Mo Media. We're working really hard for everybody this year to try to put out a lot of great content. All right, everybody, if you remember, we put out a children's book last year. Buster's trip to Victory Lane. I have been signing these things and hearing about all the people that are enjoying them, all the kids that love Buster's trip to Victory Lane. We're very proud of it.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Well, Buster gets back on track. Literally, the second edition of the Buster series is coming to you. side and it's available for pre-order today. You can go to Amazon, all the sites where you might pre-order books. It is releasing in September, and it features an entertaining off-road adventure story. Buster takes on a new track. He meets new friends. It's going to teach kids how to process their emotions and calm down when they're feeling overwhelmed.
Starting point is 01:05:22 You know how our kids can get riled up, and this book kind of helps him learn how to manage those emotions and find success and help others too man i really uh have enjoyed uh helping create the storylines in these books um buster is a uh buster is a very important character to me you know so dad's nickname was buster when he was a little boy uh the car itself is designed after a dirt car that my dad drove in the 70s owned by my grandfather robert g uh there's a lot of cool characters inside the book that have a connection to my own personal experiences. So anyways, the second installment of Buster coming to you soon. Go ahead and pre-order.
Starting point is 01:06:10 Buster gets back on track. All right, everybody, we're going to close the show out. It's been a good one. Tyler Gray's Race Rewrap from Atlanta comes out every week on Dirtymo Media's social channels. So be sure to check that out. Hope you guys enjoy today. Ricky Stenhouse is our guest tomorrow in studio. Can't wait to talk to.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Ricky, and then make sure you tune in again Thursday for whatever the hell we call that show. We'll see you. But a play is cold as hell and it's time to race. Drop down in the seat, going to be a long day round baby Daga. Take it away. Whole front row is nothing but ovals. 8 out of 10 day. Hot like Scoville.
Starting point is 01:06:52 Hot like a porridge wall. Hot like a Ford of Old Gator. I don't know where rhymes with Scoval. Joe be winning stage one and Cindra taking stage two. And Penske thinking it's done. But Harvick says that ain't true. Way out in front. That's not ideal.
Starting point is 01:07:06 Ross blew a kiss There goes at the field Barry and Billy and Chris Among others taking all the damage They just couldn't eel Lama roll out in front of the pack Young money is hot in his tracks Car number 10 is hauling the cash
Starting point is 01:07:16 Until a blue shell And straight up his BK and two pay A couple of vats Stuck in and Dodging and stalling arrest Battling hard but no need to stress They prove you can race Without causing wrecks All of them boys retracting
Starting point is 01:07:27 Shuffling and passing Legano came off the top rope B450 smashed him Crossing the line And Joe got the dub Credit assistance To bell with a shove. Can't forget Corey got to show him love. But taking them pennies and stacking them up.
Starting point is 01:07:41 At a baby CL, A4. Love to see it. Next stop, victory lame. My guy, let's get it. Tyler Gray, rewrap. Check out Dirtymo Media. Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.

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