The Dale Jr. Download - 437 - Cryotherapy, Canyon Camping, & Fixing Martinsville

Episode Date: April 18, 2023

After a week’s vacation, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and co-host Mike Davis are back in the Bojangles Studio for some Dirty Air. Mike details his trip to the Grand Canyon with his family, and Dale Jr. chimes in about his trip to the beach in Texas to visit family. They also discuss: Dale and Amy’s recent adventure in cryotherapy  Attending a Charlotte Football Club event  How the new short track package delivered at Martinsville  What short-term changes can be made to brakes and tires When the gang went live on Youtube, listeners sent in questions about: Talladega infield parties Best girl dad advice The most popular drivers in Cup today Favorite non-racing athletes Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. What do you think? Didn't get them? I mean, of all things to say. Family picnic sometimes. Are you kidding me, Mike? Are you kidding me, Mike? Oh, my God, that is hilarious.

Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr. Welcome back to another episode of the Dale Jr. Download right here in the Bojangles studio with my, best friend in the whole wide world the man with the best teeth I've ever seen yes here we are yes he's back y'all Mike Davis Mike Davis is back from the Grand Canyon really he really went to the Grand Canyon hiked all the way down there I did are you going to tie a teeth joke into this somehow I just know that you went to the dentist immediately after that you're right and then you he texted me yesterday guys he texted me and he goes hey where you at I'm like the dentist and he goes

did you chip a tooth on the way down to the Grand Canyon? I'm like, really? He's just, that's the first thing he goes to. He had to get the grid out. Mike went down to the advanced hiking. Went through the, he went through the advanced course. And so, you know, after that you've got to go to the dentist to get the grid out. The grit.

He's a tough guy. No, I wasn't. Did you ride bear back? Did you ride horse bear back? Everybody else's got saddles. You're like, nope, not me. No, I didn't ride. I would have liked it, actually.

Especially on the day you hike out. I didn't have taken a bear back, saddle. I don't care. I'd have taken anything. Did you sleep out under the stars while everybody else is in their tents? I slept in a tent. He didn't rough it? That is roughing it.

Oh, okay. When's the last time you slept in a tent? Did it rain? Did it rain? Did you need shelter? No, it didn't rain. Man, I'd have slipped out under the stars. What have you?

I did see the stars from my tent. Yeah. I hear you. Listen. I've been to the Grand Canyon. You never been down in that thing. It's pretty big. Oh, man, it's big.

Yeah. Like when you walk up on it, it's pretty impressive. But what's the feeling when you're down at the bottom? As impressive. The scenery is unmatchable, but then also the hike out, never again. It'll kill you. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

There's not an easy way out of there, huh? That's the thing I was telling myself. I'm like, God, there's only one way out of here, and I'm going to have to climb my ass right on out somehow. We went out. We were supposed to camp halfway up, so divide the sink. So it's nine miles out. We'd already hike seven miles.

Holy, holy. Dude, I'm going to show you something. Look at it. I've been showing everybody this. I look down in there. It didn't look like nine miles down. What are you talking about? Yeah, it's freaking far away.

Look at this. I want to, I just want to, I just want to, I will read to the listeners what he's reading here in a second, but I want to get your impression on that. Look at the steps. This was the 31,000 out. 31,000. And it's 31,000 just straight up, basically. 12.6 miles of walking.

Yeah. So I was hurting. We got you seven hours and 33 minutes of sleep. And you must have been comfortable. I was exhausted. But I got to tell you this, and this is in all seriousness. I want to say this. Hey, it says, his app says seven hours and 33 minutes time in bed.

He marks that bed out and puts tent. I just want to be accurate, man. I want everybody to know. But listen, this is in all seriousness. When you're down in the bottom of this canyon, there's no cell service. And what that did, we got down, we left at 6.15 in the morning and we got down to this camp at the very bottom by the Colorado River. We got down there at about 1130, which means. from 1130 for the rest of the day,

you've got to entertain yourselves. There's no cell service. There's nothing like that. And the time to spend with my family without the interruptions and distractions. I have a question. What? How many people were around in your group?

In my group, specifically, just me, my two daughters, my wife. But there was other people in the campground. That's what I mean. How many? Oh. Y'all all went down together. No, no.

You went down with just your family. You're passing people here. Did you? Nope. Nope. Really? You're walking on down in there all alone. I've done it before.

Okay, sorry? Yeah. And so you get down in there and it's just y'all and you all got just your . Yes, my gear and my... Yeah, yeah. You got y'all's gear? And you're like, hey, man, we're going to find a spot. Yes.

You find a spot? We've reserved a spot. Well, you had one reserved. You have to. Nice. All right, this is information I need. Yeah. So then you get down there and you're like twiddling thumbs.

Well, it's hot. So listen to this. It was snowy at the top. and it was almost 100 degrees down at the bottom. No air, wind? No, that's how tents work. They don't come with air air condition or anything. No, no, no.

I'm saying it's not windy or blowing any air? I imagine you're in a canyon. The air condition is the Colorado River, and it's nice. Yeah. It's nice and cold. Okay. So if you get closer to the river, is it cooler? A couple degrees cooler?

Get in it. Yeah. Okay. It's that hot. And it's melted ice and it's melted snow from the winter, so it's real nice and cool. So that did cool you down. No shade down there. There's a little bit of shade, but there's definitely no shade on the trail down.

We went down on the trail called the South Kaibab Trail, and it's seven miles down. And it's insane views. I mean, again, it's well worth it going down. It's also not easy. But when you get down to the campground, yeah, there's trees or stuff like that. It's hot now, though. It's hot, but, you know, you cool yourself off in the river. The thing is, is my daughter twisted her ankle halfway down.

Okay. And it's swelled up. Swell, swollen? whatever. Beachball, you get it. Yeah, it sounds terrible. And yeah, we were a little concerned that she wasn't going to be able to hike out. Yeah. But she did, and she did way better than I did, even. But the hike out was nine miles. And, uh, how many times do y'all stay there? Just one. Oh, okay. One in the Grand Canyon. We also went to other canyons before that. All right. So, yeah, wait, you spent the night in other canyons?

Not camping. Okay. Yeah. Hotels. Oh, hotels. Okay. So, um, when y'all were coming out you were supposed to split it in half and why didn't you because we're idiots i don't know man everybody else could hike out i mean like i should a dang sure camped out i could have used the break what's the camp midway out look like compared to pretty pretty primitive yeah half the space yeah just just you know it's just see anybody else camping there y'all are like no we're not you know the higher you get up you know That's what happens to me, man. I'll walk by that and see no one else camping.

No, I'm not going to be the only one. No, there's enough people out there. It's like the first person to get up to go to the buffet. Not me. Listen, this was the problem. This was the problem for me. By the way, the buffets. You know what?

When I'm on the trail and I'm exhausted, the buffets is also what's going on in my mind. You know what else is going on in my mind? Google and Oculus are things that are nice. I could have seen these pictures just as easily from those things. That's all the hike out. You're going to the Grand Canyon next year through Oculus. Right. And I'm going to feel great about it.

You know, it's funny that you mentioned that. I got an Oculus a couple years ago. It was messing around with it and checked out. They had this app where you could go to places like that in the pyramids. Holy moly. You're like, right. It's like so real. Yeah.

No, I know. Making me want to do it right now. Oh, it makes you want to do it right now. Oh, it makes you want to do it or you feel like you've already done it. Let me just want to go back to the Oculus Pyramids. See where else you can go. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's the things that creep into your mind when you're hiking up and it's, you know, you're like miles to go.

And it's like, but listen, the trail at the top was covered with ice. You're walking on an ice bed. Not fun. Especially when the drop off is 9,000 feet right next to you. What did you see out there? Anything cool? Dead animals? Some skeletons.

The awesome thing about it. You would love this. See any artifacts? You would love this. Historical. Deer is so protected, the wildlife is so protected that you're just walking by a big old buck. You might as well be walking with the buck. They are not going to run.

They're not skittish like we know them to be. You're just walking beside bucks. Nice bucks too. I love that. Okay. Yeah. So. Okay.

And that we even walk by deer in town. Yeah. Just on the sidewalk. Yeah. So that was cool. It reminds me of that old TV show. We should watch in the preview. in the introduction of the show,

the elk walking down the street. What was that? Oh, yeah. I don't know what you're talking. Bullwinkle? No, no, no. That's a moose. No, no, no.

It was a really, huh? Yes. Northern exposure. James Brose and the TV connoisseur. Hey, so I was a shit out of that. That's a good show. We did see elk. That's also pretty awesome to go walk up on elk.

All right. They're big. Yeah, they're big. All right. Yeah. But did you? did you do anything during your spring break? What hell did I do?

I've kind of been doing a lot lately that we claimed was for spring break. But, like, you know, we talked about a couple of things on the show. We went to Texas to the beach there a couple weeks ago that was spring break down in Texas, I guess, with Amy's family, which was really, really fun. And anyways. I did do one thing in particular. All right, let's hear it. Yeah. So, you know, I've been seeing,

are you good? Grand Canyon story? Got any more tidbits? You're good? I don't want to. Nothing that I want to share. What is that supposed to mean? That's it.

I'm ready to hear your story. No, no, no, no. No, no. What happened? Nothing. Did you have an accident? No, no accident. Did you poop your pants?

Sounds like that. you pooped her pants. Really, that's the first thing that comes to your mind. That's the only thing that could have come to... No, that's all. I'm done with the Grand Canyon. You did chew your chief. You did.

What happened, Mike? What happened in the canyon? I didn't know. What happened in the canyon? What happens in the canyon? stays in the canyon. Well, then leave it to that. So, my wife, who does not like surprises,

knows I do like surprises. And she's telling me, as I'm getting ready to take the girls to school, hey, meet me over in Burkdale, which is off exit 25, I think. It is. Off exit. 25, I 77.

Burkdale's a sort of little village of all kinds of fun stuff and apartments and whatever. Got a theater, bookstore, all the good stuff. So, anyways. she's like, meet me at Berkdale at 2 o'clock. You know, we're going to take the kids home, drop them off, and I'm like, man, what are we doing? She won't tell me.

I'm thinking, man, you know, I don't know what's going to be fun. I'm sure, right? Going to do some day drinking. I don't know what the plan is. I'm trying to think of my head. It's not my birthday. Trying to think of what we're celebrating, but we're getting ready to party.

and I get to Berkdale, meet her in the parking lot, and we get out and we start walking, and she put all this on her Instagram. So we walk up on this building, she's like, here it is, and it's a Cairo, what's it called? A Cairo chamber?

Yes. Yeah. So I've been talking to Amy about ice baths, and I don't know nothing about them. don't really care. I don't care about it, but I want to do it. I want to do it because I want to see if I can do it.

You know, kind of like, hey, feel like somebody's daring me to do it, right? And so, I don't even know how long you're supposed to be in there, three minutes, ten minutes, whatever. I think 15 is getting dangerous. Not that I could even be in there that long, but anyways, I got this feeling. It's like something's daring me to do it,

and I got to do it. I've got to try it one time just so I can say I've done it. and keep telling her about it, telling her about it. And she's, I mean, basically, I just mentioned it once. Okay? And so the night before we were laying in bed, I'm like, man, I'm going to get one of them damn tubs on putting on the back porch here. And I'm going to do an ice bath. I've got to try it.

See if I can do it. And I'll probably never do it again. So here she is. She booked us an appointment at this. What is it called? Cairo chamber. Yeah. But it's got a name.

It's called a Cairo chamber. That's what I heard the name be. Yeah. Chiro therapy. There's a name to the, there's a name. Cryo. Cryo. Cryo.

Sorry, man. I don't know. Not you, Alex. It's got a, there's a name to the act of doing it. But anyways. So anyhow, let's get back to it. So we get there. We're at the store and I'm like, oh, hell no.

Like, I'm, you know, I'm doing this on my terms. I'm not doing this. So you did not like this surprise. No. Okay. It damn sure wasn't day drinking, for one. So big disappointment that I had to shield, right? Your conscious wasn't daring you to day drink, though.

Your conscience was daring. You want to know what's tough? Try not to be disappointed that you're not day drinking. Oh, man. Fair enough. Fair point. So I'm like, all right, we're going in there. I'm like, I've said, all right, are you doing it with me?

And she said, all right, fine, we're going in. We go in, this lady sees us a mile away, right? She sees it coming. She knows that when you've never done this, she's giggling, the lady at the desk. And anyways, I'm thinking an ice bath, right, how cold is that? Right, let's just go around the room. How cold is an ice bath? Pretty freaking cold.

Give me a number. Give you a number? Like in temperature, fair nights? Just guess. We're all going to be wrong, so it's fine. I was going to say... 25. I was going to say zero.

25 degrees. 25? I was going to be way off. 32 is like literally melting. A lot of the ice... Go ahead. Ice is water freezes at 32, so it's got to be below that. Oh, really?

Fair enough. I shouldn't have been that hard on you. I told you we were all going to be wrong. Maybe in the Cairo chamber is 33. I told you we were all going to be wrong. So fine. All right, so everybody's pretty thinking roughly is like zero to 32, right? somewhere around that range.

I know. It's going to be negative in it. Well, these chambers, like the pros, so they got different levels of aggression, the pros go in there as minus 200 degrees. What? What? You're near three minutes. Cheez.

200, minus 200 degrees. Me and Amy got the beginner lesson at minus 140 degrees. That's the beginner. That's what they told us. Look, man, anybody that's hearing this that knows. more about this than we do, congratulations. And if we're completely wrong, congratulations, you can correct us, whatever.

This is what they're telling me at the counter. Okay. All right. And I'm like, holy shit. Yeah, are they trying to talk you out of it? They didn't tell me this before, right? They're telling me this after. So we're going to go in this box.

It's literally a freezer. We opened the door, me and Amy step in, and we're in our underwear. We walk in there with roves. You take the rogues off, hang them up, and then you're just standing there. We got slippers on, and we got gloves on, and a tobogging, and our underwear. And it's three minutes, and I'm going to tell you, at 10 seconds, I was like, get me the F.

Get me out of here. I was going to open that door so bad, because they're not locked in there, obviously. And Amy's standing there, not saying a word, standing there just stoic, and I'm like, I'm shaking, moving, jumping, tapping my feet, rubbing my arms. And, like, I got to get out of here. This is awful. This is terrible. Like, quite the feeling.

What would it, like, knives in your back or something? No, no, no, no, no. Not, not. It's just freezing. It's, you know, it's, it's, you know, imagine getting locked outside of the house. You're in the mountains, and it's three foot of snow outside, and you step outside to grab a newspaper, and you should turn around and the door's locked, and there's, like, nothing you can do about it. And you're under, you know, you're standing there in your pajamas. But it's freaking cold, man.

So in 10 seconds, you're ready to get out. I was ready to leave in 10 seconds. And so Amy stood there completely fine, and I had to do all types of shit to distract myself. I'm speaking in tongues. I'm, you know, I'm rubbing every part of my body, right? Trying to find some work. Trying to get, you know, trying to create some friction. and it was miserable.

So they got this light, this bar that lights up, and it's like imagine mercury rising in a temperature tube, right? And that's basically, once it gets to the top, you're done, you can come out. So I'm sitting there watching that thing, and it's freaking going so slow, and I'm like, come the fuck on, we got to get out of here, this sucks. I'm never doing this again. I felt like I got freezer burn on my back. When I come out of there, my back is burning.

Oh, man. Yeah. And I'm like, man, my back burns. So I'm rubbing it with my hand, and that's not really helping. And I'm like, wonder why my back feels like it's sunburnt, which I got no understanding of, you know, maybe, you know, if you're in there too long, that's exactly what happens, right? And so, anyways, no chance I'm ever doing that again. No chance there's any infections hiding in my body. Those are dead.

But it sounded to me, though. You said that you in 10 seconds wanted to out. that Amy was doing fine. Amy was fine. We get done and this was a decent part about it. We get done and they put us in these recliners and they put these inflatable things around our legs that squished our legs and sort of inflate, deflate, inflate.

Compression, yes, yes, yes. So I don't know what the hell that's doing. All this, you know, so what I've learned is that really ice bass and all this, all this sort of, this is sort of an idea that people, this is a true. that people use post workouts. Like, so we're absolutely doing ourselves not a lot of good because we obviously didn't work out before we did this.

But all of the ice bath and treatments are for the workout crowd. And, um, but anyways, we got the whole, we got the treatment. It was fine. That part was fine, but I don't think I'll ever go in that box again. Here's my point, though. What you're telling me is that Amy, and this is your admission, and this is fine, Amy's just was a lot tougher than you are. In my Grand Canyon experience, my wife, is way tougher than I am.

And I think that we can all say as men that our wives are way tougher than we are. They just are. I mean, my wife goes up that canyon like the Mandalorian. She's got like almost like she's got a jetpack on her. And I mean, it's an most unbelievable thing. My daughters hiking circles around me, man. One of them's got a sprained ankle. I'm telling you, man, to the women that are listening to the Dale Jr. download today, you're our heroes.

Y'all are way tougher than we are. She definitely was tougher in that scenario because she's like, man, I'm going to come back and do this, but not me. And I feel like the ice bath is going to be the same thing. Ice bath is going to be miserable, and I'll never do it again. And I don't know what I'll do with this tub I got. There is an actual scientific reason to do ice bath. It is recovery, right? Like your body recovers.

Now, I'm not sure exactly what you were recovering from, but there is a recovery. Yeah, you go work out, beat your body. you up, strain your muscles, and you jump in this ice bath, and it's supposed to help with recovery and repairing, you know, your muscles and stuff like that. And you're, I think you're supposed to do it very shortly, briefly after the workout, right? So if you wait an hour, you're kind of not doing yourself any of the good that this ice bath is supposed to help you with. But we don't care about that, because we're not in, we're not trying to work out. Exactly. Yeah. We're just trying to try this ice bath. We're just trying to have.

the experience, right? What the hell is it like? What's it feel like? Anyways, if you watched any of my social media on Instagram over the past couple of days, you'll know that we went to the Charlotte Football Club match the other day with, I took, so Ally, one of our great partners here at Dirtymo Media and the Dell Jr. Download, they took, they invited me to bring my daughter, Ila, out to a soccer game. I was really nervous. about this because Ila is four and I wasn't sure how she would react right down on the down on the grounds before the game we were there about 20 minutes waiting on the game to begin very loud a lot of music playing I was worried that she wouldn't think that was okay you

know that she wouldn't like the noise or whatever you know kids you know react different ways to certain you know stimulations right and felt like she might get overstimulated there and just kind of want to go somewhere else But she was great. Then I got her some ear plugs, which I was then really happy about. So that was a parental fail not to bring those myself. But we get some ear plugs, get those inner ear. And then I'm like, hey, ma'am, they're going to take me over to this throne.

Every game, every home game, they bring somebody in, and they put them up on a throne. They put a crown on them. And that person, it's a coronation. Yeah. And so that person is to fire up the crowd and sort of bring some good vibes. and hopefully a win. And so I'm thinking, hey, Ila, do you want to go up there with me? It's very, we're standing right there looking at it.

I'm like, it's a couple feet, you know, a couple steps up this thing. We're going to go up there. We're going to wave when they announced us. We're going to wave and then we're going to pump up the crowd, right? We're going to get this thing started. She's like, yeah, I want to go up there. I'm thinking, man, no way. She's not, you know, because they got some CO2 that goes all behind you and just a lot of people

shouting. And I'm thinking, I don't think I would. like this if I was four years old. I don't know how I would react. You're thinking maybe breakfast tantrum I could just erupt at any time, which is a bit of a counterproductive when trying to pump up a crowd, right? She was perfect, man. She smiled. She loved it. She had a great time. She looked like it. She looked like she was having a blast. I saw the pictures.

So all that went well. We had a great time. We watched them get to a, they got scored on early, and then they scored two points back to back. And being able to watch the crowd react to that was a lot of fun. I've never been to a soccer match before. I played soccer a little bit when I was in school at a really, really young age, but I'd never been to a professional match. So being able to see the home team score and the reaction to the crowd was great. Being able to watch Ila, witness that, was fun for me. And we eased out of there with about 10 minutes ago. It was like probably,

I don't know, man. It was about 9 o'clock or 9.30. I was bedtime. at nine. That's late. And so I was pushing it trying to keep her in there as long as we could to see how, because she was fine. She was, she wasn't melting down or anything. We had, we had some cookies and some sugar and still things were good, which is a good, you know, usually the sugar brings out the gremlins, but, uh, anyways, we had a great time all the way home. We talked about it. Usually like getting a car that late, they're going to go right to sleep. We talked all the way home. She was so excited and happy. And then, so I was, I'm going to tell you, I say all this to, to say thank you to ally for

the invite, but also to encourage people to go to those games. Yeah. I enjoyed it. It's very family friendly. And the crowd is large, but there's, you know, there's plenty of room to breathe, if you will, you know. And so, I don't know. I just really love the vibe.

It was really nice, and I think I'll take my family back. That's about it for the personal stories, man. Why don't we dive right into Martinsville? Oh, yeah, let's talk about Martinsville. I know everybody. This is our version of the cryo chamber. I know. So here's the thing.

And I know you've got a lot of things to say, but I'm getting really, really exhausted with the feeling that every week we got to fix something. And I, you know, I feel like every single week we watch a race and we come out of that race instead of going, man, that was awesome. Incredible race. Oh, that track delivers. Man, that is a hell of a battle. Instead, we come out of there and go, man, that sucked. We need to fix this. Man, that sucked.

We don't need this anymore. Man, why do we do this this way? And I'm doing it, I'm doing it too, right? I'm guilty of sitting there going, God, darn, it was awesome. but I didn't like this part, right? And I don't know whether that's because there's truly some problems that need fixing, or if that's just the new norm in terms of, you know, how we react or how I react. I won't even put this on nobody else.

I'm trying to ask myself, like, damn, dude, do you need to complain every freaking week about something? Can you not just back off a little bit and look at it for what? what it is because, and I'm battling with that a little bit on this Martinsville stuff, because, man, I've seen some races. I've been around this freaking sport forever. A lot of people have been in the trenches for a long, long time. I've seen a lot of races at Martinsville that look just like that.

And it didn't matter what Jen car it was. I mean, if you went back into the 70s and 80s, you would see bigger leads and less lead changes and less cars on the lead lap and less passing. And so I don't know that the sky is falling in terms of the short track package. And what I want to say to sort of back that up with is the, you know, the race, they made some changes to the, they made some changes to the car to try to improve it. And I think that those changes were effective to a point. Did they go far enough? I don't believe so.

Absolutely not. But we did see a little bit better of a race than we saw with the two events at Martinsville last year. All right. The two events at Martinsville last season were not great. And we all agree on that. And this one was not perfect either. But it was better. They did make some changes.

I want to give some credit to the fact that there was, at least it didn't stay the same. name, right? While, you know, I was looking at a tweet from Jeff Gluck. He says, from night, this is, and thank you, Jeff, for bringing some of this information to light. But from 1997 to 2015, 36 of the 38 Martinsville races had double-digit cautions. All right. At least 16 of those had 15 cautions, right? So a lot of yellows. The last three races with the new car, the cautions have been five for this past weekend and four and six for last year's events. So the cautions are way down, and two of those are stage breaks, right? So there's really only two or three legit yellows.

But when I was looking at racing reference statistics, and I know this is a stat that is widely disputed and criticized. So I don't even, you know, but when I was looking at green flag passes, okay, both of last year's races had green flag passes of 674 and 1233, like 1,133. So those are relatively low when you compare it to races since 2015 at Martinsville, okay? 674 green flag passes is ridiculously low. this race this past week had 2026 Green Flag passes that is the most since March in 2015 so there was racing going on in the pack

I would be one of the disputes that but anyways go right I don't know how you know they come up this I don't know whether there was a lot of going on I don't know if they are including a ton of going on on pit road and it inflates this number but the number was large

in their metrics and a lot of those races back in the you know 2015, 16, 17, 18, 19, or 500 mile races. There were 100 lap or 500 lap races. There were 100 laps more than we had this past weekend. And so I, and this ain't not, you know, when we're watching a race on TV, there's a lot of things happening that you do not see.

And I've been, I've watched races on TV, I've been in the booth, I've been at the track, and even our own broadcast with NBC, we cannot cover every single battle and pass. We try. We try our best, right? So I want to air on the side of, hey, man, maybe we,

maybe there was more racing happening than we were exposed to. Certainly we knew what was happening up front. Nobody's passing the leader. That's a problem. All right. But maybe there was a lot of great racing that we didn't, get exposed to through the broadcast, and so we react accordingly, right? I didn't see a lot of racing.

I didn't see a lot of action. I didn't like what I saw. And so just, just, I'm asking people to have a little grace with the idea that, yes, there might have been a lot of passing in the field that we didn't witness, that we didn't know or realize. Maybe if you were there in person, you might have had a different reaction to a race than somebody who watched it from their couch, right? And that happens often.

I mean, but all this to say, I do believe the changes that they made were a long time coming. I don't know why they didn't happen last year so that we could have had, you know, a better race in the fall. But those changes that they made did make a difference. They did move us in the right direction, but it was nowhere near enough. And so there's been some conversation on social media, but also Denny Hamlin talks about it on his podcast. Some of the people in the industry, Jeff Andrews with HMS, have talked about, you know, horsepower, more horsepower. How do we get more horsepower? Jeff Andrews at Hendrick Motorsports says, well, we can get it, but it's going to take us.

six months to a year before those parts are ready. If you ordered it and wanted it and designed it right now, we wouldn't have this, at best case scenario for six months, worst case scenario a year. So that's if you ordered it today. Hell, we have to have the conversation to get the convincing to order it, right? That's another how many months. Yeah.

Right? So to get everybody, all the collaboration that we've now induced into the sport between the teams RTA and the drivers and the, you know, the governing body, all of those people have to agree that we're going to have to, that we're going to do this. And then the stuff starts to get ordered. So we're talking, if we're getting 900 or 700 horsepower back, that, at best case, happens in the fall of next year.

So I'm not, you know, these are, these are to be highly disputed. But I'm thinking about what are some cheap, you know, fixes for NASCAR on the short track schedule. And if this, I don't really care if this fixes the road courses, because I don't, I don't love road courses anyways. Well, hold up. You're saying, you're looking for, you're about to give us cheap fixes. So that does suggest that there's a problem.

I know there's a problem. Yeah. Okay. Just makes sure we clarify that. I think I'm, I think I was clear to say that the move, the changes they made did help. They weren't enough. They weren't enough. Okay.

All right. So this is taking it in the next step. Yeah. What can they do, right? What can they truly? do to try to keep getting us closer to better racing. So ripping more downforce off the car, that's a simple solution. Okay, they took down force away, continued to do that.

If it's under the body, if it's the spoiler, if it's underbody, fine, whatever. Do, explore that avenue, right? That's not probably going to net a whole lot more of an improvement because how, you know, how slow they go in the corner at Martinsville. They did pull a lot of downforce off. We saw that it barely moved the needle, but it is a move in the right direction. So a harder, so look at the brake package that we have on the car now.

I don't know why we have this giant rotor with these massive brakes. I don't know who thought that, man, you know what? We need these cars to stop way better. At a short track in a row course, this has shortened up the braking zone. This has really taken away any kind of opportunity for somebody to outbreak somebody into the corner. charge into the corner deeper. If the breaking zone is way shorter, all of that activity

and that opportunity happens in a very small window. All right? So how do you make the braking zone longer? How do you get these guys out of the gas and on the brake pedal sooner? And that be an opportunity as they trail down into the corner to try to beat somebody.

Well, you're not going to redesign a new rotor. You're not going to get a new caliper and all of that package has to stay as it is. The owners, the owners, and I don't blame them. They're not going to pay for a redesign of the entire brake system. But one thing you might be able to do,

might be able to do, is go to a much, much harder brake pad. A brake pad that intentionally performs poorly. Okay? And so they could institute a rule that this is the softest brake pad you can use and it will be much, much harder. Another thing they could do

is to take the brake pads and take away surface area so that there's less pad material striking the rotor, and that will perform poorly, right? And so if you wanted to, you know, if this is what we used to do on some race cars, if you want the car to turn better, you would take some pad material away from the right front so that the left front, if you didn't have the ability to,

if you didn't have the ability to actually change the bias from left to right, you could actually take pad away from one wheel to make the other wheel outperform in the braking zone and that would change the balance of the car so we know that taking pad material the surface of the pad actually striking the caliper if you take away material you're going to take away braking performance

so I think one of the things that would help would be to take away braking performance and there's a couple different ways that they could explore cheap alternatives instead of having to reinvent the entire system time out are you just to clarity clarify are you talking specifically about short track packages are you talking about in general the short track martinsville let's just talk about martinsville okay okay because this might fix a lot of other issues okay got you we saw them a little bit of conversation about the rain tire that they they used it at in the truck race

and denny hamlin was on social media a little bit about that talking about how that tire performed and how it had a lot of fall off and it's relatively soft because it needs to be soft when running in the rain conditions it's a softer tire. If you ran that tire in the dry it would destroy it. So good year, you know, we're not going to redesign the braking system. They're certainly not going to

redesign a new wheel, a more, a narrower wheel. They're not going to do that. They're not going to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions of dollars to make a smaller wheel, a more narrow wheel for a more narrow contact patch

on the racetrack, and Good Year's definitely not going to spend the money to redesign a different mold. What they could do is design a tire that had grooves, a tire that had less rubber on the road. There would be some challenges with that because that, you know, there's some, there's, they'll have to understand, you know, how those tires will dissipate heat, not blister, not chunk. but if they have, you know, if you want, basically what you need to try to do is take tire off the road, take contact patch away from the asphalt,

so a groove tire would certainly do that. Holy crap, yeah. I'm of the opinion, though, that the tire contact patch and the size of the tire is not as critical of an issue right now. And the reason why I say that is because I watch the modifies run a big, big tire

and have great races. So if Goodyear, can't make a softer tire, which would be akin to what the modifies run. They run a little gumball that wears out. If Goodyear can't develop something like that, maybe a groove tire would be able to take away some grip. That would increase the braking zone,

take grip away in the middle of the corner, slow the corner down, get the guy, you know, all of these things would be able to slow, you know, take away the ability for them to charge into the corner, down, shift, gas up, and leave the exit, right? Obviously, adding power is something everybody has been talking about. I don't know how expensive or inexpensive that is.

Or how time consuming. Apparently after what Jeff Andrew said. Andrew, I mean, is adding, you know, is getting back to 900 horsepower? That sounds like a big jump. That sounds like a very long-term process. That sounds very expensive. But what is 100, 200? I mean, how hard is it to give them anything?

What could they give them back at a relatively low cost? That's the end of my list in terms of cheap roots, quick fixes. The number one thing that I believe is the biggest problem with the short track package at a track like Martinsville is the shifting. Right. I don't know nothing about what that would cost or how to go even approach getting rid of shifting at Martinsville. if I was in charge of that decision I would be working right now to get rid of all shifting at ovals

there is no need for us to be shifting a gear at any oval racetrack any oval much less Martinsville especially short tracks so that would be the number one thing I would tackle I would get rid of the shifting but that's likely a long-term project

I don't think they can just pull some gears out or change the rear main gear. I don't think they can do this easily. Or they would have probably already done it. If it was an easy thing to do, they would have done it. It's obviously going to be a challenge to get rid of shifting, but I would put that at the top of my list as a problem. Well, the teams probably could do it quickly, but they can't do it with getting a single supplier part or anything like that approved in a timely fashion.

That's the whole issue with this thing is that, The teams have to agree on these new parts being designed, and they have to agree to pay for them, and then they have to be developed and created. And that is, you know, years ago, we'd just go change the damn gear in the rear end and fix the problem, right? Or we didn't have, you know, we didn't have five different gears. We had four in a standard transmission. But I'm just saying, move. I would say shifting is one of the, if not the biggest issue.

The break package being so exceptional is, is another issue. The tire would fall in behind that. So those are the issues that I see. Long term way down the road, I would think it would be in NASCAR's best interest to not to have this good of a breaking package, and I would also think that it would not be in their best interest

to have this big of a tire. I think that the braking package being so damn good, doesn't really make our racing better. It makes it, it makes passing less likely. I also think that the bigger tire, which I've talked to Ryan Preece about this. He drives a modified a lot, grew up driving modified. He swears the tires not the problem. He thinks the big tire would be fine with the right compound, a softer compound.

He thinks it's not the biggest problem. So I myself am going to listen to a guy like that and slide that issue down the list. but the breaking issue, power, and shifting. Those right there are the two big problems. And look, I think NASCAR is definitely looking into this. There's too much conversation. There's way too much noise for them to turn their, turn and look the other way. Again, I mean, I think that they have to address this.

My frustration is that it probably, it will probably happen in a very slow pace. And that whatever fixes and adjustments we get when we go to Martinsville again will not be near enough, it'll be a little better. But it won't be like, it won't be perfectly fixed, right? And so we went from, you know, my heart breaks because we went from begging for more short tracks. Let's drop back about three or four years. Short track racing was our best product. We were begging. There was T-shirts out there.

short tracks. Everybody was hashtagging it on social media. And now that idea of the sports sort of cycling back around and the North Wiltsboro's coming back and more short tracks being considered and, you know, Fontana, California turning into a short track, all of that steam is slowing down. It is. Yep. Nobody is all fired up about short tracks anymore.

which really, really sucks because that's the core, that's the core of the sport. That's where the sport was born and made. Yeah. And we should be eagerly, aggressively working to make sure that that is a product that we are extremely, extremely proud of and cannot wait to revisit week after week. Yeah. you know Clint Boyer was on social media yesterday saying hey man I know that the short track package sucks

we got to fix it I feel confident in NASCAR will the good news is we don't go back to one for a long time I thought man damn it that's a terrible he's not wrong but he's not wrong I knew what his point is but I was thinking that that that sums it up for me that man two three years ago we were like

hell yeah short tracks is where it's at let's get more short tracks where every time we go to Martinsville we just want to bottle that up and sell it. We had so many amazing finishes and so much controversy. And now we're like, man, it's a good thing we don't go to one of those again for a while. Yeah, it feels like we're losing our identity. Well, you know, and that to me is the bigger problem. I want to open the door for you to say what you need to say. Oh, listen. You've got some opinions about it. No, no, no. I mean, I think what you said, listen, I enjoyed hearing your list of fixes. I could never come up with something like

that. I mean, I'm not even going to try it. What I would say is, you know, I step back and look at it from a, you know, 50,000, 80,000 foot view here. And that is just, just, I can, I point to two things. One is TV ratings and other is grandstands. That's as best as I can do. And TV ratings are down. And I know everybody's got an opinion about why that is, is it because Chase Elliott was gone.

I think if you look back at the big picture here, you could say, there's a problem. There's a problem that needs to be fixed. And we all know that. And so, you know, I feel just as guilty as you do when we start to harp on them. Hey, NASCAR doesn't need us to tell them that. They got the same access to all these ratings. And they get better access than we do. But I am a little nervous.

I'm a little scared about it. I love the sport too much to not be. And so I don't think that we should feel guilty about having a pessimistic view on a week-to-week basis. When we come out of a Martinsville and we're not feeling emboldened by our sport, then yeah, we should speak to that. Why do we not feel emboldened? The fact of the matter is, is this car getting us into an area where we are emboldened by our sport on a week-to-week basis? And if not, then what can be done to do it? So look at there.

Okay. So that's up 17% from last year's race? The TV ratings? Yes. Okay. Just announced. So listen, that's what I look at. Look at the hard data.

The data, if it's up 17%, maybe there's truth to the Chase Elliott thing, right? Maybe there is something to that. I want reasons to feel emboldened and proud and saying, yes, health. Yeah. That's what we're looking at. And so anytime I get those little victories, I feel better about things. And when we don't get those victories, you know, then we can sit here and scrutinize it. So I like your ideas.

Wow. The grooves and the tires. The one thing I'd say to that is that the one, I would love, man, would there be awesome just to have somebody from Goodyear on our show one day to explain to us why a softer compound is just that difficult to bring to a track? Like, explain to us the engineering and the science behind that and the cost. I'm sure it exists. We just don't know it. But like the one thing that you would think that you can do without changing a single part on the car is the tire. Yeah.

So the tire is the most important part because it connects the car to the road. And everything you're going to do in terms of whatever power you decide to have, all of us could think we're going to create the greatest race car. I'm going to take away shifting. I'm going to change the braking package. I'm going to make all this power. but if the tire doesn't complement any of that, you're still going to have a poor product, right? So Goodyear is critical.

Good Year's importance to the sport and what we watch on Sundays is massive. And they know that. And so I think with that much focus, they certainly want to make sure that they have a tire that performs well, basically meaning they have a tire that doesn't give problems, doesn't create issues, because then people look at that and go,

well, damn, I'm not going to go to the store and buy one of those. I'm not going to buy, I'm not putting Goodyear on my truck because they can't even build a tire to run 500 laps, right? And so, you know, or 80 laps or 60 laps, right? The tire's coming apart. So, you know, last year, right, we had all the tire issues. Good Year took so much criticism because of that, right? Whether it's right or wrong, they did take, you,

they're a very big organization outchurched. trying to sell tires. They don't make money. They don't make no money in racing. That's their advertisement. That's how they advertise the market. And if their tires are falling apart like they were last year, and they're the ones getting the blame for it,

they're going to build a tire that doesn't fail. Not a tire that's softer, not a tire that wears out and falls off. That's the issue in terms of, you know, yes, I was a driver. I'm still a driver a little bit at heart. I'm a fan.

I want to see fall off tires that wear out. I want to see drivers having to manage their tires and be smart about them and suffering from those consequences of abusing them. But I don't know if I can expect the tire company to get me there because they definitely don't want that bad criticism when they build a tire that is subject to failing. And so because even if they only have a, you know, if your favorite driver has a tire issue,

you know, a lot of that driver's core fan base. is going to blame the tire company, not the driver, not the setup, not the crew chief. And so, you know, when a lot of times those issues are because of something about the car, right? And so anyways, that's the issue, that's the tough part about the tire and getting that tire like a driver wants it versus what the tire manufacturer is going to deliver to the track. They're going to bring a tire that's damn sure not going to fail and damn sure going to hold up to the abuse, right? You know, I wanted to say the numbers being up from last year, I mean, we've had double-digit drop, some single-digit drop, mostly double-digit drop every week.

Chase comes back from his injury. They did a big push about this, right? Big push. Marketing, yeah. NASCAR a little bit, mainly Fox. A lot of pre-based interview, talked to him on Pace Laps, commercials about him back, he got, you know, Alex Bowman joked a little bit about that, not having his own commercial when he came back from injury. Um, there's already, um, social media post about Chase racing at Daga.

Um, and honestly, you know, I see a lot of criticism, uh, from fans about that. They're like, yes, I get it already, you know, whatever. But man, when you're, when you're, uh, when you're, uh, when you're, uh, when you're, uh, ratings are down, double digits and one of your biggest stars, if not the biggest star in the sport is coming back. You're damn sure going to talk about it. You're damn sure going to promote it. Yeah, well, we certainly can't hold NASCAR accountable for not building up their stars

and then not doing it when they come back. Yeah, this is not even an argument. Right. Everything that they're doing to try to promote Chase coming back. Even another, you know, even more promotion this week leading into DECA is justified. Absolutely justified. And so, you know, we did have good numbers

compared to last year at Martinsville. I know a lot of people tuned in for Chase, but a lot of people also tuned in probably to see if the short track package was going to be improved over how dismal it was last year. But I think there's some truth to the fact that, you know, a lot of people were tuning out because of Chase. He has a massive fan base.

And if I'm a network, and if I'm NASCAR, I'm absolutely going to be sharing with people as much as I can that this guy's back at the racetrack and competing. and he's also a big storyline. The guy is out of the playoff picture currently, trying to fight his way back in. He's got to win a race. He's got to point his way in.

There's all kinds of scenarios at play here. And people, you know, it would be interesting to see just how that goes for Chase. That's a fascinating storyline, in my opinion. That should be followed. We're going to Talladega. I was going to ask you, what do you expect at Talladega? I'm ready to rock. I like that, by the way.

So I'm looking forward to watching that race. That's another thing. That's another package that needs a little work. Yeah, Danny was talking about it. Good grief. Jared asked what his strategy. He goes, well, I'm going to ride. I'm going to ride.

Try to pick a line that actually moves. Right. So when I've been watching the plate races the last couple of years with the next-gen car, it's two lines, bumpeter bumper. And it seems like that for the most part, that's your, you know, you're sort of, you know, you're kind of stuck in a, you're stuck in a scenario to where you can't, you can't do anything but running those two lines. You know, if you're, if you're in the outside line or the inside line, no matter where you are, you really can't create anything or do anything

to change what's happening. You have to basically stay where you are, ride where you are, and those two, you know, those lines basically either advanced or they don't. There's no three, there's no guy going around the top. There's no people team, you know, haven't seen really in a long time a third line form and get around the top and pass the field. I don't know, man. I don't know what the answer is. Yeah.

But the way the car races right now looks frustrating at Daytona and Talladega. But I will say that that is one package that they do not mind messing with. And they will change a lot of it. And they will mess with it quite a bit. So I don't, you know, if it, I don't expect it to stay the same for too long, but it doesn't look like a ton of fun. We'll have to see how it goes. Talladega is a bit wider, a bit of a different racetrack than Daytona. And, but hopefully it's exciting.

Yeah, I'm looking forward. And I always look forward to Tallade. Well, the, you know, off of four to the checkered will be excited. Yeah, of course. But it's that, you know, the first three quarters of the race could, I wish the drivers could do more, right? I wish they had the confidence to do more and confidence in the car to be able to accomplish things instead of being feeling like they're hopelessly stuck in a line and don't want to get out of line for fear of being dropped to the back. Andrew, you're ready to get it someass junior.

That's fired up. All right, Dale, we are live. Did you make that shot there? I hit the rim. You hit the rim. That was close. That's good enough for me. Live here on Xfinity 10G on 10 Gs.

That's pretty good. But I saw the Verizon car riding around with that wimpy 5G this weekend. Oh, God. Yeah, how pathetic was that? Yeah. Give me 10G. Half the Gs. I'm like, man, I wonder about six months ago when they were putting that deal together. And now they're like, oh.

Yeah, they're thinking, this is going to get them. And you're like, you're running down half cylinders, baby. Give me the 10G. Yeah, wait until we see what we have with Exfinity. Yeah, no, it's pretty good. Live on YouTube, I saw some fans tuning in from Ontario, Tennessee, Miami. So we've got a lot of, you know, North America covered here. Oh, shoot.

So, yeah, it's pretty good. Awesome. This first question is coming from Olivia. What's the best Talladega infield party story that you can share? Um, well. If he has an answer to this, I would have a problem being that he can share it. Right. I know.

I, um, I haven't never really, you know, I used to always like, oh man, I can't go. in there. I'm not going in there. You know, I'm racing, right? I can't party. But, you know, the last couple of years being in the broadcast booth, you can definitely roam around and check things out. I will say that they do a really damn good job with their concerts. When you go to the concert stage and look out across that crowd in the infield at Talladega, you don't feel like you're at a racetrack. You feel like you're at a, you know, a big event, a big concert, a festival, which is a great experience for everybody. I think the fan that comes there that has bought a race ticket, getting to experience that, you're feeling like, man, this is nice.

I'm getting more, I'm getting my money's worth. So I did like that. And the fact that the concert happening in the infield, as opposed to on the property outside the track, I mean, you know, it's a cool vibe. But I've rode around in there, me and Tony Jr. got on the golf cart one night and cruised around, and it's everything and more than, you know, that they say it is. It's pretty crazy. There's one of my favorite things about it is that there's a couple people that literally come and set up a bar, right? Yeah. And so they'll, they put up tarp walls and big, you know, horseshoe-shaped bar down in the middle and back around, you know,

2008, you would go to one of those bars inside the, and it might be as big as this room. You'd go to one of those and you'd see four, six drivers hanging out. You'd see a lot of people that you knew from inside the garage. And so everybody would get curious and ease on out there. And sometimes you'd be surprised with some of them. And now they had that thing where they put drivers on that trailer. and they drive it through. I haven't done that.

But I've watched a lot of social media videos of it. And that looks pretty fun. And I think the fans appreciate it. I really don't have like a, oh man, this happened one night. I went out there and watched a bunch of concerts, though, and anonymously hung out and sometimes not so anonymously. Yeah, I was going to say. My favorite thing is, I'll say this, Andrew, sorry to cut you off.

Yeah, go ahead. My favorite thing is the post-race Twitter thread of all the things Oh, yeah, that they leave behind. God, that's so fun. It's like a, it's got this sort of, you know, the day after Woodstock vibe. Yeah, it tells a story. I think it's cool. You talked about people setting bars up.

There are even stages with live bands. And just walking down the strip, it's just different, you know, you hear a song over here, and then you walk 10 more feet and it's a different band. I thought, I think that's pretty cool from Talladega. And a lot of times, man, you know, Bob's walking around in there, Bob Pockris. And everybody's in there just trying to see what's going on. It's pretty interesting. And a lot of times, even the fans, they're not hassling any other drivers and stuff that they see.

They're like, oh, yeah, here. There's such and such over there, and they're such and such. And they're not, you know, they're too busy having a good time. So, very interesting. We'll have to see what gets left behind this year. I'm always looking forward to that Twitter thread from Talladega. This next question coming from Eric, what's the best girl dad advice that you've received? Oh, that's, everybody tells me they're going to be.

a real handful when they get in their teens. One guy said, I was pushing Ila in a stroller down the street in Key West one morning, going to breakfast. Isla was probably six months. And this guy walking by turns around and goes, she's going to break your heart in about 16 years. And I looked at Amy. I said, is he telling the truth?

Amy's like, no, don't trust him. Don't believe it. I think he was telling me the truth. I think he was telling me the truth. I think it was. You know, I think that there's a, I think the one thing that I've been paying attention to, and I've heard this a lot, and people have told me of this, this a lot, is not to wish life away.

So, you know, I can't wait till we're done with these diapers. I can't wait until we're done with these bottles. I can't wait until we don't have passes anymore. And we can just, I can't wait until Nicole's potty train and we can get, you know, we can stop having to worry about buying all these diapers. Stop wishing your life away, you know. and there's so much joy in the moment with the dirty diapers and the pasties everywhere. And there's so much joy in what you're doing right then.

And you better damn sure soak it all in, right? Because you don't go back when those days are gone and the kids are, you know, when they're not, you know, we're already miss them tiny little babies, you know, and then we're going to miss them being five. We're going to miss them being 10. We're going to miss them being 15. We're going to miss them being home. You know, we're going to miss it. We're going to miss them when they used to run in the bed and climb in and jump on and cuddle with you in the morning.

There's days when they're not going to want to do that anymore. There's days when they'd rather be with their friends than hang out with you. And so I think that's one thing I'm trying to focus on. I don't do a great job at it, but it's trying not to wish, you know, try not to look so far ahead and anticipate and be too excited about the next thing, just like soak in what you're doing right then and there. You know, it's tough to do, though, because, you know, we all feel like that, I don't know why that's a habit of ours

is to really kind of like look forward and go, man, I can't wait till this. I can't wait till that. Trying to really enjoy every day, I guess. That's great advice. Just in general, too, live in the moment. For sure, yeah, yeah. Don't let those, these are the good times, right?

I know that we're all sitting here, and this is a little deep, but I know that we're all sitting here going, man you know short track package sucks yeah do da da da and but we're there is it it never it's not failed yet now i could be wrong but it never fails that we look back five years ago man those were good times 10 years ago man those are good times we're going to be sitting here five years from now 10 years from now going man that was so much fun sitting around that table yeah talking every tuesday um so yeah i'm I'm especially when you get around 48, 50 years old, you're like,

shi-h-hitting down. Yeah. Past halfway, Mark. I'm past halfway. It's official. The race is official. That's hilarious. I've never heard it be described like that, Mike, before.

It's an official life. Whatever happens from here. That's a T-shirt. Oh, that is. That is right there. We got time for one more. On DBC yesterday, Brett was mentioning how 80% of the fans follow 20% of the big drivers. Who are the top 20 superstars in the Cup series today, would you say?

Huh? Like 20, 20%? 20%. I was going to have you name. Give me like four or five. All right. Danny Hamlin, Chase Elliott. Kyle Arson, Kevin Harvick, Joe Legano, Cobbush.

I mean, that's pretty easy, right? Yeah. Who am I missing? You see Ross Chastain? Not yet. No. Blaney? Not yet.

Nope. You don't think? What would it take for Ross to kind of reach that? The championship? Yeah. Championship. I mean, top 20%? That's, I mean, these, Blaney, Ross, they're stars.

They've got growing fan bases. Chase Ross is probably growing quicker than anybody's maybe, arguably. They're right there on the cusp of that 20%, I suppose. And I'm sure a lot of their fans right now are disagreeing with me. But there's a couple old guys that got to retire. And when they do, those guys fill the void. Yeah, definitely. All right, I think we got time for one more quick one.

Growing up, who's your favorite non-racing athlete that you looked up to? I was a – I pulled for the Washington commanders. they were the football team and the Redskins back in the day. And I had a lot of players that played for them that I loved. And, you know, outside of racing and my dad and Kell Yarborough and other people, I mean, yeah, Washington, you know, football players that played for Washington were my heroes. And it wasn't, you know, there was Art Monk who was a receiver. and I loved how automatic he was.

He showed up, played, stayed healthy, called every pass, got every first down, and just was so good, you know. And Darryl Green and was a guy as a cornerback for us, fastest man in the NFL. We used to brag about that as fans. Super, super good guy. Had a chance to meet him, super nice. and just was always good, you know, just always there, always dependable. Always going to stop the play, always going to defend the pass, always going to, you know, pull it off when you needed him to do it.

John Riggins, there's a lot of guy. I'll go on, you know, I can sit here all day and name a bunch of the players that they play for them, but trying to think anything outside of that, I mean, that was pretty much it. Good deal. I think we learned a lot on this ashton year today. It's fun. A lot happens at Talladega, live in the moment. and I won't make you name 20, 20 of the top drivers.

All right, man, that was a long one. Usually we're trying to be a little more brief in our dirty air-ass junior, but we got carried away. We had a lot to talk about today. We had to get analytical. Thank you, Lionel, for all your support. I cannot wait to see the new tool for the late model stock. They got a new tool, Mike.

They do. New design. I can't wait. It's got to be coming soon. I'm waiting on the sample to show up any day. but thank you Lionel for all the support here at Dirty Mo Media and who are we forgetting. Well, Bojangles, Linell, Xfinity, who else? Did we get them all?

Covered it all. Yeah. All right, y'all. Y'all have a good day. Tomorrow, Hutt Strickland's our guest, and that's going to be a great conversation. Can't wait. See you then. Check out, check out Dirty Mo Media.

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