The Dale Jr. Download - 473 - It's Good To Be A NASCAR Fan Right Now

Episode Date: July 24, 2023

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the Bojangles Studio to join co-host Mike Davis and unpack all the action from NASCAR’s weekend in Pocono. After a controversial finish that has race fans split, there was plenty to discuss: Dale’s adventure reporting from the flag stand Austin Dillon vs. Tyler Reddick Denny Hamlin vs.Kyle Larson How good it is to be a NASCAR fan right now During the Ask Jr. segment of the show, listeners sent in questions about: NASCAR’s delayed caution at the end of the Cup race Apologies between drivers If you didn’t need sleep, how would you spend the extra time? Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What do you think? Did it get them? I mean, of all things to say. What? Family picnic sometimes. Are you kidding me, Mike? Are you kidding me, Mike? Oh, my God, that is hilarious.

Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr. and welcome back. Again, for another episode of the Dale Jr. download here in the Bojangles studio with my co-host, Mike Davis. Mike, how are you doing? Doing great. Can't wait for this one. cannot wait like Christmas morning I'm glad

well I want to let you know that this entire episode of the Dale Jr. download is brought to you by Allied we want to thank Ally for their continued support across all of Dirty Mo Media's content yeah they're a good one

yeah they've been a great partner to us and a great friend of the show doing great things in NASCAR I'm really amazed by their involvement in the sport you love when you see big companies get involved and go the extra mile right 100% are certainly important to us

so thank you to Ally for that all right so we're getting right into it dirty air coming up first I want to also make sure we mention Lionel and I'm still looking for the um did I just make that nope yeah we have a trash can in here I try to make a lot of shots and he misses most of them

miss most of them but that was close anyhow back to the Lionel die cast man I'm still looking for that Lake model stock die cast to come onto the table and I keep talking about it, hoping that I'll just kind of wheel it into existence, but still not here. I mean, have you heard anything from Lionel yet? Nothing.

No samples or nothing? No, but we haven't asked them either, have we? I don't think we should probably just ask. I figure just, you know, speaking into existence, putting it out there in the universe would help. That happens a lot of times with you. Wilkesboro, a couple of things. Surely somebody at Lionel listens to the show. They do.

They for sure do. But I don't know. I mean, like there's a lot of manufacturing that goes into those things, I reckon. All right. So a change just for this week in our programming, this show, Dirty Air Asr, Jr., episode 473, is coming out today, as in Monday, as in now. A day early. Yeah, so you're listening to it.

That's right. It's a day early. Nothing happens tomorrow, nothing. All right, everybody. Your usual Tuesday, Dirty Air Asch, Jr., is coming a day early. All right, nothing tomorrow. And then, again, on Wednesday, becoming Earnhardt. Episode three.

That's right. Episode 3 becoming Earnhardt. How's that coming along, man? It's coming along great. Is it? Yeah. Are you enjoying it? Well, no, I'm saying that episode three coming, like we are building it, actively building it right now. Yeah, yeah.

How is it coming along? It's coming along great. I've worked on it a little bit with you, but I haven't heard anything in the last 24 hours. I know what you're asking. Yeah. Why haven't you heard it yet? That's what you're wondering. Well, I haven't heard anything.

Like, hey, man, things are good. Oh, we're in trouble. Well, we're ahead. We're behind. We're doing great. Okay, good. All right. You all have no idea.

Y'all that are listening, y'all have no idea what kind of a situation. What a pickle I put in, Dirty Mo Media in with this becoming Earnhardt series that I've just forced upon everybody. It has been a Herculean effort to try to build these episodes in really no time at all. Can we just say, though, episode two last week, fantastic. I mean, listen, this was the whole mecca of the 1979 season, the fight, the 1979 stuff. I mean, the Daytona 500. So yeah, big time. Tell me something about episode two that I don't know.

That you don't know? Yes. Like, not some information that's in it. Like, how popular has it been? Are people listening to it? Listen, there, yes, people are listening to it. But second of all, I would say that the media coverage of becoming an art continues to happen. I love that.

That was a little bit. Offer announcing, put out a tweet. that you shared with me. I'm so thankful for that. I actually reached out to the writer of that article in DMs. And, man, I really appreciate it. That's cool. Those little moments, man, I mean, look, the download has been around a long time, right?

And it's had, it ebbs and flows and sort of how media picks up on it, right? We have something pertinent to talk about or a big story or whatever. They sometimes dip into our comments and use some of our quotes and stuff. But, man, yes, to your point, the way that people are. have embraced becoming Earnhardt and are sharing in and saying, hey, this is actually pretty good. Y'all should check this out. It's been a great thing. Yeah.

And I'm very thankful for it. That awful announcing article that you're alluding to had some very complimentary things about you and what your role in preserving the history of the sport has been. And I thought that was very nice. I think they're a fun follow too. Yeah. Oh, they're great. Yep.

Awful announcing on Twitter. Anyhow, let's get into Dirty Air. Today's Dirty Air is brought to you by Valvaline, the original motor oil. Um, there's a lot to unpack, right? Yeah. Um, so. So where do we begin? I, let's first start.

I know everybody's, what we're wanting our take on. I, I know everybody's going to be wanting our take on the Denny Hamlin deal. And in this particular instance, it does matter what Kyle Petty had to say about it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Because I know you and him had some exchanges on, on, uh, the internet. And so, um, but anyway. Before we get into all that, I got an opportunity to do something cool. So every week we went into this season, NBC went into this season with, hey, man, we're going to change it up a little bit as far as how we do the pre-race and how we lead into the race itself. And it's been so far well-received. NBC, I think, has been doing an amazing job bringing the races. A lot has changed behind the scenes that a lot of people may not be aware of.

but, you know, as far as in the production, there's been some changes in personnel, and it has actually been very, very seamless. And the race broadcast itself, I love what we're doing. And I think everybody's doing a great job. Replay, sound design, cameras, production, all of that is doing amazing. And so our bosses had this idea. We're going to do this action-adventure, is what they call it. you may remember, like, we're, you know, Jeff Burton walking down beside the, uh, the starting

grid talking about cars, right? It's a bit of a throwback to how things might have been done a couple decades ago or even more. I love it. And so, um, we even got more ideas we're trying to push, trying to make happen. But this week, so to move that around, right, and make it unique and different every week, the tracks provide us some, some opportunities to do, uh, to take fans to different locations or put fans in different situations. This particular week, they wanted me to be in the flag stand. So, man, I had a ball up there. And so when they say, hey, Dale, you're going to do a bunch of hits in the flag stand,

your mind goes, all right, how do we make this great? I get up there and just start looking around, and you ask questions. Grab flag man, you ask them questions. You start saying, hey, why are you doing this? What do you do here? What do you say here, right? And so I noticed, I don't know, you know, there's, I noticed there were two checkered flags sitting there. And they got these little holders.

It's kind of like a holder on a boat for a rod, right? For fishing. And they stick the flags in those. And then they have a bag that some of the flags are in. And I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay, some of the more commonly used flags are in the holders out of the bag. And then the ones that are rarely used are in the bag. and this guy is doing the Xfinity race and I imagine

you know they have a different flag man every event for the most part truck Xfinity Cup so as I learned on Sunday they got two guys up there for the cup race and they're like hey we're the A team we're the experienced team and so I was like

why are there two? There was one yesterday in Xfinity you got two now he's like well something happens it's a longer race somebody might get fatigued we're both experienced we can both do this And so, anyhow, on Saturday I see there's a couple in the holster, and I asked him, you know, I was like, yeah. And then there's two checkered flags, and one of them had win, win written on top of it. And it looked very new.

So the one checkered flag was a little weathered, you know, a little darker. And then the other one was brand new. and I thought, hey, I see what's going on here. This checker flag is the new one is the one that they're going to hand out to the winner. That's right. He can do whatever he wants with it. Give it to a kid, what have you. And I love those little things, right?

So it reminds me of when we win the race at Martinsville, we jumped on that stage and started bouncing around and that clock was up there. And the clock's about to fall over. And everybody at home is going, you're about to destroy your clock. what they didn't know is my clock's in a box in the in the infield that's right that's not my clock you can do whatever you want to that clock that's a that's a prop and so um it was you know it's i kind of like that inside baseball stuff right and it's a i'm in the flag stand i'm not a lot to work with up there but i'm trying to find out things that i think would be interesting i said hey who's our uh who's our honorary flagman today and they point

to this kid that's walking up toward the stands to walk up into the and it's Victor right and I had just met Victor on pit road his family said hey I was walking by they go hey can you take a picture with Victor I said sure great I'm take I've taken many pictures walking down pit road right took a picture of Victor kept on moving heading toward where I need to be I didn't know he was a flagman honorary right so they're like that's him right there I said oh I made him just a few minutes ago this is cool And Victor has autism. And I thought, this is pretty incredible.

I don't remember another time where someone with autism was given the opportunity to be an honorary flagman. That was very cool to me, right? And I'm thinking, man, Victor is getting ready to have a hell of an experience, right? And so,

I don't know, man. That was, I just was really, I totally forgot about my role as an analyst in that moment, right? I was just like, wow, hell with the camera and the mic and all that. You know, this is, you know, I want to, you know, I want to watch Victor have this experience. And so, you know, we, we had a great time. He weighs the green flag and I'm watching the cars and listening to the cars.

And then I said, you know, I remember this when I was up there for the first time. I thought, yeah, man, it's going to be cool when I weighed the green flag and the cars are coming under me. but they're only accelerating to speed. And somebody grabbed me and said, hey, don't move. You need to be here for the next lap because that's when they're coming by full speed. You'll love it.

This is at Daytona. And holy hell, man, you sticking around for that second lap is well worth it. That's really the moment. Right, waving the green, being up there for that, the race kind of starting is a cool feeling. But that second lap when they are coming back speed, the whole field, the whole grandstands

sort of experiencing this all together, right? all the fans seeing the cars come by at speed for the first time many people in the grandstands may be seeing their first race and so victor's easing a easing easing away right back in a way he doesn't know you know he's like he's trying to get out of the way of the flagman and everybody else up there's a lot of people up there and i was like oh no victor come here you got to watch this dude this is the moment when they come by this time this is the moment you got to be here for this and uh and so that was cool I'm glad they captured that. So I love going back and watching that again.

And then on Sunday, I was standing there. Okay, so Sunday morning they're like, hey, you're going to do the whole thing again. And I'm like, you know, I go on Reddit, and I'm reading people's comments about the work I did Saturday. And I do that because, you know, there's often some good ideas about like what people would love to see, what they missed, what they didn't learn,

what they want to know more about, what they didn't like. Reddit is kind of a quick, easy place to go and get really straightforward feedback, right? You know, you can't, a lot of, it's hard to get that in other areas of social media. But so far, Reddit has been a good place for me to really kind of get pretty good understanding of the pulse, right? And so, anyways, how? was reading that and getting people's feedback on it and I went up there and I thought I can't do the same thing again. I can't do it all over again. This is new. This has got to be new. But I told people in the production meeting, I said, this is like taking this, this is not going to be as good as

yesterday. We had victory yesterday. It was a great moment. I don't know who the honorary flagman is for Sunday, but this won't be as good. This is like eating the second bite of a good piece of cake. you know, it's never going to be as good as it first. And they were like, oh, come on, you can do it. So we get up there and literally like, we were about 10 minutes from going on air. And I had this one hit where I really was drawing a blank on what to do with it. And they were going to come to me for about a minute and 30 seconds, which is a long time. That is a long time.

Yeah, anything over 45 seconds is quite a bit. You've got to get creative. Or you've got to have something important to say. You can't just, you know, give some generic. crap and so they I was standing there and I asked the guys I said all right they had a guy named Robert first race ever I don't know where Robert came from don't know his connection to the event or how he got brought there but they have this guy named Robert right he's I was like okay what do y'all tell Robert right what do y'all telling him I'm going to try my best

to make the fan at home watching uh get a sense of what it's like getting ready to be the honorary starter. I'm going to give them the instructions that you're going to give Robert. And so I don't know how that worked. I haven't seen a clip of it. But anyways, you know, they come to me and I'm like, hey, all right, everybody, you're, you're the flag. You're the honorary flagman.

This is what's going on. I'm going to, you know, I'm going to control everything as a NASCAR official. I'm going to take care of everything under the pace laps. But then as they're coming around and getting the one to go, I'm going to push you to the rail, give you the green flag. I'm going to give you the green flag, and you're going to watch them come around. They're going to come right through the Geico Resort Zone. When they get to that final line, I'm going to tap you on the shoulder, and you're going to wave the green flag.

I want you to wave it all the way until every car has came by. I want you also remember, have a good time. You're on TV. And don't drop it. That's right. That's the most important one. And the don't drop it part is funny. You can't not say it, right, in that moment.

it's perfect for the bit but it's so true because you just have you have to be in the flagstand to realize the wind oh I can imagine it's already kind of gusty at some of these racetracks up in that flag stand

but when the cars come by even accelerating on that first lap waving that green flag if you're not hanging on on that thing it could get away from you yeah it feels like you would have to have a deliberate attempt to hang on or else you could make the mistake

because I'm sure it rattles you. Yeah, and the wind doesn't really, so if the field's coming by, right, 40 cars, the wind doesn't start happening until about halfway through the field. Ah. So, like, you don't feel it at first, and after about the 20th car, the wind starts whipping up, and the wind is really the most at the very last car. And it keeps kind of tumbling and blowing through the flag stand moments after the last car is passed. It's really interesting.

but it's a lot. It's a lot. You really got to be hanging on that flag. But, you know, I don't know, I thought I had a lot of fun doing that. I loved your improv moment. You had an improv moment when you were up there for the cup race. Well, all right. During the, when they came back around. When they came back around, yeah. So this is my personal feelings, man. I love everything about what I'm doing up in that pre-race moment. I love walking by the cars out at the pit road as they're firing the engines. I love that moment. Being down there in that energy, it is so easy to genuinely be excited and to let that come through to the viewer at home. To share with them, this is cool, this is exciting. We all should get excited about this together.

I enjoy the same thing for the same reasons in the flag stand. But the moment that the green flag comes out, I want to be in that booth. I want to be in the booth. I wanted this job to be an analyst in a broadcast booth. And so every minute that I'm down there, you know, doing any work, radio style, whatever you want to call it from the flag stand, like every time we've done this, I've missed a majority of the first stage. Yeah, I don't like that either. What happens is, is I get to the booth, and I don't really know what's happened.

How could you? I don't know what they've said. I don't want to repeat what they're talking about. and man it's just hard it's like imagine a broadcaster in an NFL game just having to sit in the basement for the first quarter you know or or sit in the locker room and not

you know and then come on up to the booth in quarter two and plug right in all right and that's not going to be optimal right right and so even though I'm in the flagstand or on pit road it's just hard to get into what's happening and see everything right the glare on that little monitor we have. I really can't tell who's leading or what's going on.

I can't see cars get loose or make mistakes. And anyways, it's a balance. We've got to work on it to perfect it. I love what we're doing before the green flag, and I think that we're doing something nice and new and good. I want to continue it. But I'm telling you, man, I cannot. When the green flag comes out, I cannot wait to be turned loose and get back to the booth.

So this is going to be maybe a dumb question, Dale, but why can't you, because I don't like the fact that you're not in the booth talking and broadcasting until about stage two anyways. I don't like it either. Why can't you go immediately from the flag stand right to the booth and start? I mean, I know that it's still not ideal. It's still not ideal. But why do they hold you so long before you can go at? So the producer and the director are the authority. You know, I work for NBC. NBC's telling me what to do. So you could go in sooner, but they don't let you. Right. Okay.

Yeah. I mean, I got to listen to what they're telling me. Of course. If they say, hey, man, we're going to leave you down there. I don't move until they say you're clear. We don't, you know, when we call a race, we stay on headsets. when the race is over, we stay on headsets until they say the booth is clear. That is, you don't take your headset off, you don't assume your job is done,

and that's the mentality that you have in those moments. And so when you're standing on at flag stand, you stand there until they tell you to leave. I see what you're saying. Yeah, I did love your energy that you brought as you were on the flagstand, especially when you had that improv moment when they came around the second time. Well, yeah, but you kind of like keyed your mic and let them go through. And that was fun because you can't hear me. Well, I know that, but you also go, sorry, guys, I couldn't help myself.

And that was kind of fun. It was a fun improv moment. But yeah, Dale, I mean, you're the, I need to hear your voice as the broadcast team telling us what's on the track from the driver perspective. And they've got both the drivers down doing other things. And I don't love it. I understand that they're trying new things. But the fact of the matter is, is that your perspective from the booth seems, for me, as a viewer, far outweighs than whatever kind of stuff they got you before the race.

That's just my opinion. That's a fair point. It's a balance and we'll work on it. I've talked with my bosses and we'll continue to adjust. But we also got to acknowledge what we think is a good thing and how we feel like that it's a nice way to start to show. I do love being in that flag stand up until the green flag. It was energetic.

It was great to be. and such close proximity of the fans. But as soon as the green flag happens and the cars are racing, I'm like, I need to be in the booth, I want to be in the booth. I miss that perspective. Like I want to get up, up, up high

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rated PG-13. The Austin Dylan Reddick, that was hilarious. I text Austin this morning a little bit, just making sure we're still pals. Oh, that's right, because he cited you. He saw, I don't know that he was mad. I at least, I heard his MRN interview and he's like, well, I guess Junior said on TV that it was my fault, so I guess I was. I didn't take that as him being critical. I thought him taking it as in maybe I should look back at it, but was he mad? Well, I don't know if he even saw my point of view, but he might have been told by somebody in his camp that Dale put the blame on you, right?

And so that I put the blame on him. And, you know, I understand that. I can't count how many times I've been annoyed and mad at broadcasters and you hold a grudge. And, you know, you're like, hey, that guy wrote a bad article about me. I'm never working with him again. I'll never accept one of his requests for an interview. You do. You hold grudges, and you can.

And I think sometimes it's valid. But that's a tough situation to be in that we sometimes find ourselves in. And there's been times, so when you're a broadcaster and you've raced with these guys, you're still friends with a lot of them, you've got to have good relationships with the driver. with the drivers so that they can respond to text messages or questions that you might have about them or the race, the upcoming race. You got to have that dialogue, right?

And you're going to piss them off, right? And you've got to repair that damage. And so there's going to be moments when they do things in the race that you think is a mistake. And you might be right. You might be wrong, but you've got a second to decide, right? Did I see a driver do X, Y, or Z? And the fan wants to know your thoughts.

they don't want you to flip-flop. They don't want you to call it, you know, they don't want you to call it thin or avoid it. Or neutral. Or neutral. No. They don't like it. They don't want that.

They want really your gut feeling. And if you can just believe in your gut in those moments and just say what you think. Look, in that moment, I'm watching that wreck. The 45, it was a low percentage pass. He's on the bottom of three. going into term one, low percentage. Probably not an optimal decision on his part, certainly. The six is at the very top.

In the moment when I saw that replay, it's still etched in my mind that the only car really moving is the three. And he's coming down the racetrack. I don't think even the six was turning in just yet. The 45 certainly didn't do him any favors. The 45 went straight, right? But, you know, I had to say what I thought in that moment, you know, and it's, you know, you don't love when a driver quickly comes into, you know, does an interview mid-race and calls your name out, a broadcaster, right? You're like, hey, man, I'm just up here doing my job.

I'm doing what I've been, if I don't call that, they will get somebody in there that will. Sure. Yeah. I will not be in that booth too long if I can't call it one way or another, even if I'm wrong or right. doesn't really matter just that you got to have a you got to make a choice in that moment anyhow did he say anything to you this morning just out of curiosity that that might have changed your mind or vice versa well i don't know uh we didn't really get into hey man did you watch your replay did you change your mind he told me um he told me what i kind of already knew

about you know the 45s move was low percentage he wasn't going to make you know he wasn't going to be able to complete the pass uh without a slide job and he didn't you know he didn't make an attempt to do the, you know, overdrive the entry and slide job up in front of him. He sees the wreck where he feels like the 45 put him in a bad spot, you know, 45 should have never tried to make the pass. And so I can understand his argument. We had, we talked about, you know, we talked about a lot of things outside of the crash, you know, but just basically it comes down to, hey, he's going to race and he's got, he's got his

opinion about what went down and how he wants to move forward and I'm doing my job I think he understands and respects that I'm doing what I think I need to do in that moment and there will there will be times when you have disagreement with the drivers and you have to tell them like hey man I'm I'm you know I'm not out to throw you under the bus I didn't say you're a bad driver I didn't say that you don't belong out there. You know, I just need to call it, and that's what I thought in that moment. And by all means, if, you know, we get together on Monday or Tuesday and you can change my mind, I will publicly say, I've changed my mind about this.

Yeah. I have no problem doing that. It's not, there's no wins and losses for me. I go to the race, call the broadcast. When I get down, I feel the same every week. And so, you know, I don't. I'm just, I know, I know when I've done a good job. I know when sometimes, I know personally when I fell short on my role and responsibility,

there's been times when there's been wrecks on the track and I did not tell the truth. Hmm. I didn't tell my truth. It's not that I told a lie. It's like I stalled. I hesitated, right? And that's where, you know, that's a, hey, that's a, that's a thing I got to work through as a broadcaster, you know. And so there's been, and luckily in those cases, Burton's been there to be the one to say,

hey, man, this is what I saw. Yeah. That's another part of that whole conversation. That's another whole part of that thing, like when a driver does something, especially Austin that we know, I'm friends with Austin, connection to RCR, dad, you know, Richard, all of that, right? So is Jeff. Jeff's been a driver there.

There's relationships, friendships. We both can't jump on the same point. If I think Austin made the move and caused that, Jeff might let me do that, and he will just let that be the, that's the comment. Right. So we both kind of work in tandem to try to talk about what we see. And we both won't really say the same thing.

just because it's unnecessary. Could come off as piling on. Yes. You don't want that. No. So that's what we're careful of. And if you disagree, then you can speak up. So I don't agree with that.

I think this guy did this. It's an interesting part of it. I don't know that it matters that much to the viewer at home. But again, like that as a broadcaster in, what, my fifth years, I don't know. I don't even either. In 2018. I'm still working. working on that, right?

Still working on the balance between not hesitating on a call, saying what I believe happened, because you don't really get a lot of time to correct it. The TV, our production truck, they're not going to let, they're not going to give me 15 minutes. They're not going to give me two minutes later in the race to go, hey, by the way, that wreck, I changed my mind. You know, I don't like what I said. I said this wrong. Or here's why you, here's why I said that.

They don't care. We've moved on, but. Yeah. You know, what you said is what you said. So I'm trying to always get better at that. Okay, side note, are you as, not as a broadcaster, I know you like it as a broadcaster, but as a race team owner, are you four drivers throwing their helmets in, uh, in discuss, or are you, I'm good with it.

I'm good with it. Hey, man, they know how much that helmet costs. The helmet's $5,000, probably more. They want to throw a thing, throw it. Yeah. Yeah. I got to give kudos to Kemp Koon at the post race. an interview with Kyle Larson, typically our questions, typically our interviews go in with usually

just a two question deal, right? You're going to get two questions and then we're moving on to the next. The truck, I believe, I don't know for sure, but a lot of times the production truck, if they're not getting, if they're not quite getting what they're looking for, they might ask the reporter, hey, go ahead and ask another question. Kim asked the perfect third question. that unlocked the box, right? They got Kyle Larson to really open up. And, you know, that I don't envy how difficult that is to talk to a driver who's not happy and then have to continue to ask them multiple questions after question.

Usually the driver wants to be somewhere else. They're going to give you, they're going to let you ask a question or two, and then they want the interview to the end, right? And so that's a really tough, uncomfortable situation to be in, man, she handled like a pro. Do you remember what that question was? I watched the interview too, and I'm trying to remember if it was about the friendship between her and Denny of what? All I know was that the interview from question two to three, the interview changed dramatically. And we were finally hearing like what we really wanted to know.

And, you know, that's when our, you know, those are the moments when, you know, those are the moments when, you know, Marty and Dave and those guys down there that are working the pits, that's when it gets so good. Yeah. When they can really, you know, they're interviewing drivers after crashes at the Enfield Care Center. So they're always usually interviewing in difficult situations, especially if it's in the middle of the race. You know, it's not a favorable moment.

And she did a really good job there. Well, shall we get into why she was interviewing him and why that was so? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Denny, it was exactly like with the one car, Ross Chastain last year. So Denny gets position in the middle of the corner. Larson missed the corner, didn't, whatever, right? Larson didn't get through the corner as well. Denny gets to his, Denny gets wheel to wheel mid-corner.

He makes a decision in that moment to throttle up and drive up the racetrack and door the hell out of the five. there's contact he's up he's coming up the track right so I agree that it was a dirty move dirties yeah I agree that it was a dirty move to door him to throttle up and just door him but it's for the win you know it's not it's not how you would expect friends to race friends but maybe that friendship, which I've seen this, and I've been part of this on the racetrack, when you got buddies, you use them up.

Oh, yeah. More than you would otherwise? Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Because you know, you're like, hey, man, I know this guy. I know he is not going to do anything.

I know he's, you know, I know him, you know. And I can, I know, I feel like I can take advantage of this situation and get out of the car and go, hey, bud, come on, man. You know, we just. racing. Yeah, I've seen it before from other drivers that were friends, and I've been in that situation with other drivers that were friends. I got fenced off of the turn two at Michigan by Matt running for 10th one year,

and I'm like, you know, I don't know, maybe he fences everybody off turn 2 in that scenario, but I felt like, damn, dude, why did you do that to me? We were both going to run top 10. that that mattered to me. If I was, you know, if the best I could do was a top 10, I wanted it. You know what I mean? And he, you know, I hit the wall and ended up getting passed by a couple people and ended up 12th. And I was so pissed because a difference from 10th, a top 10 and a 12th is a big difference.

You know, and Matt's like, hey, you know, it's last lap. I'm racing hard and sorry, you know, just the consequences of signing a number. up to get in a car and go and so i can understand you know both sides of it i really think that put anybody else in denny's car and do you have the same outrage i mean he already had a lot of people pretty upset at him over over this this year right uh some of the things he's been involved in on and off the track have soured a lot of fans right you go to the racetrack i don't know you haven't been to the racetrack a ton this year mike but when you go there and he's interesting He's likely the most booed driver.

I agree with that. It used to be Kyle Busch, but no, it ain't even close. Yeah. And so, you know, he didn't help himself there. The fans were adamant. Now, I look down, and I'm in the booth, and I'm looking down, and there's some fans cheering. There's some 11 flags and shirts, and they got their arm in there.

But it was like 80-20. Yeah. I believe that. And you had a funny line. You had such a funny line because Jeff Burton was like, no, this is the right call by NASCAR. And you said, I don't think that's why they're booing, buddy. That's not why they were booing.

We should talk about that too. We'll admit we'll get to that minute. Well, yeah, the caution at the end. But look, I, you know, I have a hard, look, he throttled up and drove him up to racetrack. That's what happened. He crossed some lanes. He did.

There's no denying that. He doored him. Now, when you slow it down frame by frame, like, they didn't, you know, when the five hits a wall, Denny's not in his door. Right. Right. It's not that egregious.

Right. You know, that would have been total, total, total, he bounces off of him and then kind of turns down the track. Denny didn't even get off the corner. He ain't, he didn't, he's not full throttle and just hit, he didn't hit a badass exit. They hit, Denny kind of turns down the track. There's a car like than a half between them when the five's in the fence.

But yes, the five's in the fence because of Denny. For sure. But they both come off the corner and have to block like hell because they both got off the corner. So, you know, it's a little disrespectful, but it's also hard racing. And the thing that I cannot ignore, say what you want about whether you hate Denny or you hate the move or you think it's shit. I don't, I'm way beyond. I can't get into that. part of it.

What I cannot stop thinking about is how freaking good it is right now to be a NASCAR fan. Thank you. And how great the last four weeks have been. Yep. How that place looked like a 1994 crowd. It was packed. Slamped. The infield, I retweeted a couple of images from 2019 to 2000.

to yesterday. Stark difference, right, between how many fans were in the infield, the cars parked around the racetrack for the fans that are at the grandstands. The storylines, look, you know, I know that, you know, if you're a Kyle Arson fan, you're pissed off about that race, you think that was a shit deal. You're mad. But your sport that you love is thriving.

and if you can take a little comfort in just being a little happy about what kind of growth we're seeing, what kind of sparks we're creating, what kind of conversations we're starting. We need exactly what we got yesterday. We need that. We need that villain. We need contact, confrontation. Somebody's got to do it. God, dang, man.

When it ain't there, yeah. Good Lord, it's bored. Yeah. Yeah, I'm sorry. When there ain't nothing going, when you don't give a crap about the two, three guys up there battling for the lead,

and their three carlings apart all day, and, man, letting each other pass, and driving by each other cleanly, and not even really putting up a fight. I mean, that's where we were not long, ago. That's right. What we got right now, man, it ain't, it ain't scripted.

This is real. This is authentic. This is literally exactly what I love about NASCAR. And maybe this is just me. I grew up in night, and I grew up, I grew up

in the 80s, watching dad run over everybody. And we love, Loved it. Yep. Hey, he's catching that guy. Watch him put the bumper to his ass. We freaking wanted it.

We expected it. You knew it was coming. Yes. Couldn't wait for it. And man, when he passed him without hitting him, it was disappointing. What, this clean? You're like, damn, man. I hear for the clean stuff.

Yeah. What's up with that? I mean, you know, there's a little seriousness to that. No, I'm with you. honesty to that. This goes back to the thing. This is NASCAR's identity, whether you like or not. You know, Matt Weaver had a really good article, a couple good articles this week in

reaction to it. And it's like, this is the sport, man. This is what we are. Not we don't, it's not that you endorse dirty driving. That's not it. But there is that nuance that these are the cars with the fenders on them. So you want the cars with the fenders. They use the fenders.

And then we embrace everything on the aftermath of it, including the hypocrisy. And there is some of that. There's some hypocrisy. I'm here for it all, by the way. And I love it. I love it because you were so excited. You put out a really good tweet yesterday after the race. And it's just like, say what you will. You knew that the fighting and the feuding and all that stuff was going to happen. And as podcasters are going to get in here and we're going to debate it. But we're here for it all, aren't we? Isn't it fun? That was a fantastic race yesterday. It really was. And the ones I want to know from, I think that there's a group of people that could be actually. the most objective on the planet. You know who it is? Chase Elliott fans. They're the ones that I want to know from because be honest with you, they like neither driver. In fact, they probably dislike both. They've got reasons to dislike both. And if you remember Watkins Glenn last year, Kyle Larson ran to win the race, ran Chase right off. And there was a lot of bad animus after that race, including from Chase himself, right? So we've all been in that situation. right we've all we've got drivers that have been on the receiving end on the giving in and and here

it is i'm curious about honestly for the first time of my life chase elli fans what do you think is it denny hamlin was he right or was Kyle Larson right yeah because you don't like neither one of them they're they're neutral yeah the one time everything's the line for them to be neutral yeah because Kyle Larson listen Kyle Larson here's the thing i wanted to ask you Denny has always been on the side of Kyle Larson is a very aggressive driver. But for some reason, as me as the viewer, I don't see that aggression as much. But then when you have like Watkins, Glenn and Fontana, when he's running with Chase Elliott and a couple other times, I'm curious if Kyle Larson would have done the same thing that Denny did if the

situation was reverse. Yeah. I think so. I really do. And I don't have a, I don't really have a problem with it. So there's a, there's something TJ used to say on the radio. When you, when you would get in the position that that Denny was in. TJ's line would be take what you need. And honestly, that's the mentality of the driver in that moment, the spotter, the crew chief, all the, all the crew guys standing on the wall or huddled behind the pit box looking at that TV screen waiting to see the decision the driver makes. They all want that driver to take what he needs, what he wants.

all right if i'm if i owned the race car of either one of those drivers i'd want them to do what they needed to do what they had to do to win right and so you're i think your opinion of what you saw and what happened depends on what side you're on

100% what role you play right put yourself in the shoes of you know the crew chief or the mechanics or the engine builder for that 11 car what are your thoughts right change your try to truly put yourself in that position and i would expect you and rightly so to have a different opinion being on the other side of that being in larcen's camp or working on that five car right i'd expect you to be real pissed off right and so either way all of this sells tickets yeah right we're we're going through becoming earnhard right talking about

1979. And we all know what happened at Daytona in the fight. What we are learning is how that affected all ticket sales throughout the rest of the year. All the way through May, they're outselling every track from the years before. This crescendoed and continued, this current, right? And so we know that. Me and you are learning all about that, right, that 1979 season and how that one little spat affected everything. All these fans were buying tickets that had never been to a race before. I got to see this. I got to watch NASCAR.

Is this what I'm all see? And so it's absolutely going to have a good positive effect on the next race and beyond. And we've got some storylines. The other thing too, man, and I just thought about this morning. for the last two and a half years or however long, Denny's been getting run over and crying about it and not doing nothing. Oh, yeah.

He's sort of changed a little bit. Seems like he's doing something now, Annie. Seems like he's doing something, right? Ever since we started making a joke about Denny's list? My question is, is that the difference maker in Denny becoming a champion or not? Him changing that mentality in his head and saying instead of being run over,

I'm going to do the running over. Instead of being everybody's punching bag, I'm going to be the one swinging. Is that change in mentality, which is certainly a different style than we usually see from it? Is that going to, will that make a difference for him this year?

What an interesting question. You know, I couldn't help. Because that's everybody's, you know, when you go on Twitter, that's everything you read. Yeah. I ain't never won a championship. I ain't never won a championship. Well, yeah, but there's examples of how doing it,

either way has produced results. I mean, let's take Martin Truex, for example. Truex is not going to run you dirty, right? No, he won't. No, he won't. And you know what? He had a reason, and he had an opportunity to get Joey Lugano back. I was listening to Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi do this.

Joey Lugano will do, he'll take what he needs, right? We can say that. And he also can win a championship that way, right? He's done it. And so, but Truex lost a championship that way. Yes. So it is an interesting question that you got there, because Denny now made a change in mentality to like, my time's running out.

I've done, I've tried to be nice. It's funny, even when Denny tries to be nice, it's so funny how it just doesn't work out for him. It comes off. I texted Travis Rockold. He comes off. It's so condescending when he tries to be nice. He does. If you want to honestly talk about the thing that I was like, a little cringe on from yesterday, was that, okay, I wish Denny would have actually showed a little bit of reward.

Like, or not even remorse. Remorse is the wrong word. But just a little bit of understanding that there's another side to this coin and that he might have crossed that line a little bit. He might have. He might have. He did not indicate anything, which is what led to Kyle Petty going. People that think they're always right have no remorse. And so it's quite interesting. I would have liked Denny to done what Kyle Larson did at Watkins Glen last year.

He got out of the car. People were a little iffy on what he did. Was it fair to Chase Elliott? he got out and goes, look, I wouldn't have liked to done it that way. I did it. I had the decision to make, and that's what I chose to do to win the race. That's fair, right? I wish I hadn't done it, or I wish I had not been in that situation.

That's what Kyle Larson did. Denny not so much. Denny's like, hey, look, I didn't even hit him. That's like, okay, wait a second, wait a second. And he goes, he had a choice. He had a choice? I mean, Denny, yeah, when you cross 47 lanes to get to him in that turn, Yeah, they pretty much have a choice.

I can't understand how Denny didn't know he hit him. I guess he just can't feel it in the cars. I don't know. I guess the composite bodies is just, I don't understand how he does not think he hit him. Yeah, you know, we're recording this on Monday and we don't get a chance to listen to his podcast. Well, I know just judging by the radio stuff, and he's, he isn't sure. He says, did I hit him? Or he asks the question of his crew chief, Gabe Hart.

And Gabe Hurd's like, I told you, you didn't. So he's getting reinforcement from his people like, no, man, yeah, believe you didn't hit him because you didn't hit him. I'm telling you you didn't hit him. And so he gets out of the car and goes, hey, we didn't even touch. And I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah, you touched, buddy. How do you not know you touched? How do you not know?

It's so funny. It goes back to last year when we debated and disagreed on whether they touched last year. Yeah. Some guy went on Twitter and said that they should all boycott actions. so that we'll cancel his show. How do you think that's going to go? I just don't think that that's going to work. I don't think so either. No, I'm not about cancel culture. Sorry, guys. I can't wait to listen to what he says. Will he have a change of heart? Right. This is all going to come out about the same time. I cannot wait. Will, and I bet he doesn't,

but I do want to know. You don't think that. Well, no, about whether he touched him, I wonder. No, I wonder in the comfort of his own home whether he walks it back and says, yeah, I see we hit. You know, I'd rather not have done it that way. I feel bad. You know, I hate that for, I hate that for Larson. I want us to be pals. I don't ever want to ruin our opportunities to go to the escape room together and do fun things. That's what they need to do.

They need to go to the escape room. They already have. They did that a couple years ago. That's funny. Yeah. I was like, man, when you're escape room buddies, you know, it's tough. That's tough trying to be friends. on the racetrack.

Holy crap, man. Oh, all right. So did you have, everybody wants to know, Cal Petty's strong words afterwards? I thought he was right, you know? Yeah. I thought that, you know, I didn't, I thought it was, it is what it is.

It's a dirty move. He gassed up and doors him, right? But it's also the last lap for the win. That's it. It's not whether it was a dirty move or not. Everybody can make that opinion. It's whether or not you're okay with it. But I also, I agree with Kyle, but I also factor in Kyle's past relationship with Denny.

Like, they, I don't know that they are Facebook friends. And you remember years ago, 07, I think it was, when they got an argument in the garage mid-rate. Yeah, physical, right? Yeah, I think, well, Kyle slapped his visor down. Right. So I can't help but not factor that in, right, to all of that. I don't know. I don't disagree with Kyle

And I see you don't either By judging by your Yeah I don't think I disagree with him Yeah I mean Kyle has his own style of going hard to the hoop I don't know that I go and you know dunk all over Denny like Kyle does I love that because Kyle's really the one We need the broadcast needs that guy 100%

Yeah And Kyle Kyle has no He has no He has no give a shit. Zero. Hey, listen, we used to be mad at him. Yeah.

Back when you were a driver. I mean, he said some pretty egregious things about you. And you know what? I don't think he still cares about that either. No, he don't care. Yeah. He's going to say what he thinks. He's going to say he leaves it, he feels it, and he's going to lay it all out there,

and he has no problem. I admired it. How is the... Because he's talking to millions of people. How is the conversation with all you booth guys on the way home? Did you guys just talk about this all the way back? Not really. We just, I think we were happy about the, you know, the job we did and happy about the race being, you know, I think we all were not so analytical about the moment and the moves and the decision by the drivers, but so much more like, hey, man, how about these last handful of races?

How about how badass is this? How can we sustain this, right? Keep this going. How can, hopefully the racing continues to be compelling. Yeah. All right. That's all we care about. Hey, everyone, in case you haven't heard, maybe you have, but Dirty Mo Media is heading back to Bristol

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want to come join us, do not wait, get your ticket today. It's at dirtymomedia.com forward slash ultimate experience. Again, dirtymomomedia.com forward slash ultimate experience. We hope to see you there. I guess we can get on into some Ash Jr. Let's get to it. Asch Jr. brought you back Xfinity. Xfinity is a great supporter. of the Dale Jr. download and certainly has sponsored the Ask Junior part of the show for, I don't know how long, seems like two decades now. You've sent all of your questions into AdExfinity Racing on Twitter. They've been great every week.

Who's behind the monitor over there? It'll be me today. Oh, it's you today. Yeah. Okay, so Alex is going to pull the questions. You have pretty big shoes to feel, Alex. Oh, I know. Yeah.

Andrew has done an amazing job with this all year. I'll try not to let them down the street. And so don't suck. Yeah, especially coming off vacation mode. Yeah, coming off vacation mode. Straight out of grease. You're probably rusty. We'll, you know, we'll accept that

and understand that you might not be hitting on all cylinders today. Yeah, I'm going to be down one a little bit, but. So anyways, the questions. Awesome. Well, our first question is about that last caution. Ethan wants to know, do you think NASCAR made the right call, delaying it as long as they did instead of throwing it before they took the white flag.

Yeah. So we have a competition meeting with NASCAR every race. And so Sunday morning, one of the questions we asked was in the Xfinity race, the seven car, Justin Algar, lost his tailpiece coming off of turn three. And the tailpiece is laying on the racetrack right before the flag stand. And there's cars running around the racetrack on the last lap. And usually the yellow flag would come out, right? you're like, hey, what are they doing? The yellow flag's not coming out.

There's a piece. Surely they're not racing back to the checkered with this piece laying here. So we asked NASCAR, and they said, you know, in a big racetrack like that, we can wait and allow the racing to continue and give the fans as much as we possibly can. And we anticipated throwing the yellow as the cars got into turn three so that they would be able to avoid, you know, any kind of issue with this tailpiece laying on the track. And they did not get that opportunity because they had another crash happen off of turn or the eight car hitting the wall in the tunnel turn.

Other things happening on the racetrack. But anyways, their idea was, all right, it's a tailpiece. We see it. They told the teams. We see the tailpiece on the racetrack. And they were going to let the race continue as far as they could to allow. whatever racing to play out that could possibly play out. So I thought that was a great decision.

And they said, you know, a track of this size gives us that opportunity. If it's at Bristol, we're throwing the yellow as soon as a tailpiece pops off. But at a bigger track like that, they use a different approach. And, hey, I like it, giving me more racing, right? Giving me everything I can get up to a point. And that was the same mentality that they had on Sunday. and they were going to try to allow that racing.

Hopefully this 41 car can get going. The priest was, you know, we saw the exhaust. They were seeing the same thing we are. He's trying to fire the car. It looked like he got it fired. Then it stalled again. We saw earlier in the race it was difficult for Austin Dillon to get his car refired and going again after a spin and contact.

And so NASCAR's like, come on, come on, get it going, get it going. Want to let this keep going. Want to let this race keep going. And so, you know, I like that. I think it attracts that size where you can, you know, you're still, everything safety-wise, everything's still in the box that we want to be in. And so let it keep going. Let it let the green flag keep going.

I don't have a problem with it. I don't think, you know, I'm not of the mind, hey man, why didn't the yellow come out before the white? Let's get a re-rack and go again. The job is to try to get to the checkers, right? And they were trying their best to try to get there. and hopefully that 41 gets moving, and he couldn't do it. Yeah.

Our next question is from Cody. Can you remember the worst apology you've ever received or given a driver after something that's happened on track between you two? I wonder how you define worst apology. I mean, I will say the one, yeah, I think, I don't know that I ever said, I don't know that I ever apologized for something and didn't really, like, I don't know that I was just like flip it and not like, you know, whatever, man, sorry. Who cares about you?

I will say, like, the one, the one, this is often cited as probably the one moment in my racing career where fans of our car were most disappointed in me or most embarrassed by me. And this is the wreck on the back straightaway at Daytona. I think it was 2008 or two, you. 2010. We got a really fast car. Rain's coming. We lost a lap because of a battery issue or something.

And I'm racing Brian Vickers for the Lucky Dog. And I know I got to get in front of him. We could have a wreck any minute. Everybody's racing toward this rain, so intensity is high. And this was also during a moment or during a time frame, where they were, they were really, there was really no defined understanding

of when you might get black flag for going below the line. It was almost like, hey man, if NASCAR looked and you were below the line, you got a black flag. They didn't care how you got there. They just saw you down there. They were like, that's wrong.

Yeah. So I got to run off the corner on Brian, and we, I've talked about this, for so sorry I have to have to have to do this but um he cuts he comes he comes down the racetrack and i'm like i'm not going below the line buddy and he he forces me below the line i'm like you you took you took my spot you pushed me away you pushed me down the track i'm coming back up if you don't move i'm sorry yeah so i drive back up the racetrack turned him turned him he over corrected back into the field big crash and honestly man i ain't felt i felt hardly little or no

remorse for that ever since. Really? Yeah. I mean, and I told him on the phone. We get on the phone and he's like, what the hell? And I'm like, you ran me below the line. I'm coming back up to the racetrack to get back in line or get back on the track. I'm under you.

You force me down. Move. Move up. What do you want me to get? You want me to lift and get behind you? This is not how racing works. And I, in that moment, man, I was like, you're, I don't have, I no longer care what happens to you.

You put yourself in this situation and you're going to, and whatever consequences come or because of what you did. And that was, you know, kind of the conversation we had, at least the way I remember it. And I remember standing at my doorway in my house talking to him on the phone and saying, like, man, I hate the crash and taking everybody out, but I really don't have a problem with what I did and what I chose to do in that moment. And I know even today, my, you know, fans of my career, that was a point where they didn't really understand why I was acting that way or why I did that.

And that was something they didn't approve of or were embarrassed by, but I still have no problem with it. And so, you know, sometimes you just, there's times when, I know the repercussions, like 15 cars crashing is not good. I don't love that. But me and the point between the moment between me and Brian, I handled it the way. I wanted to handle it. And so there's times when you, you know, there's just times when you can't, you know, there's times when you're going to have a conversation with a driver and he wants an apology and you just can't bring yourself to do it, you know.

You're just like, I really don't feel like I did nothing wrong there. That was the 2009-day 205-100. I'm looking at it on YouTube right now. What a massive wreck that was. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, if he spins down across the grass, I'm like, hey, all right, shipped your ass, and you deserved it. But he wrecks, he corrects in front of the field, and now, yes, I feel like a real ass.

He absolutely put you in a compromising situation below that yellow line, and you absolutely come back up on him. It actually reminds me, you know, we talk about this in today's podcast, about if you put your shoe on the other foot, you can understand each person's vantage point and perspective. and why they might be angry. Same thing in this one. Like if you're Brian Vickers, you did come up on him. But if you're you, he came down on you

and pushed you down below the yellow line. I mean, like, both of them. When he drove me down, he's like, God, he, you know, what choice does he have now? I'm here, I'm against the line. Yep. He's got to get behind me.

Right, which is what Denny's like, Kyle could have just let off the gas. He had a decision. He could throw it off. Right. But that's not what you were going to do and that's not what Kyle Larsson was going to do. So these guys are,

know what you're you know what you're doing when you put somebody below the line it's taking advantage of the situation exactly yeah yeah i just remember dw's call from that was just saying i don't i don't care who you are you're that's just wrong he was mad he was low down dirty yeah he said something like that that's all i'm sorry hey i don't feel i don't feel i don't feel like i feel like i feel i feel like i did what i needed to do in that moment yeah if i've lifted uh in that moment and then then vickers gets away you know gets away with doing that and and and everybody's going to race me that way from that moment on. Yeah.

So the point is he's still not sorry. Still not sorry. Sorry, not sorry. Sorry, not sorry. Switching gears a little bit. This one's a little bit off the wall question. Corey wants to know, if you didn't have to sleep, what would you do with all the extra time?

Hell, yeah. Oh, three eight hours right there. That's such a great question. Yeah. I would probably, whatever I tell you, I'd change my mind in five minutes. I'd play more eye racing. I'd play more video games in general.

I'd work on my 1979 podcast and maybe already be working on the 1980 podcast for becoming Earnhardt. I would, I don't know, man. I mean, eight hours is a lot. I'd still want everybody else to be asleep. Yeah? Do you think so? Yeah, because that's a key to... I mean, selfishly, I might, you know, take one of those days and get a good beer buzz

and then so right back up before everybody got going. I mean, you know, you'd be tempted to, you know... Is everybody awake? That's right. That's good question. See, that changes everything. If everybody is awake, then, I don't know. Yeah, if everybody's awake, then I may be doing something with my family, traveling more.

I don't know. Geez. I think they're awake if you want them awake. So it's up to you. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I would think. Yeah, if it's just me,

if I'm the only one awake, yeah, I'm probably going downstairs, turn on some YouTube videos. I like to watch music videos. So like I, you know, you change the way you take music in, right? Yeah. Used to listen to your iPod.

And now it's like, you know, you got your Apple TV or whatever, your Roku. But I'll get on YouTube videos and listen to music. It's old, old, like, yacht rock music videos and stuff. Yeah. I'd probably sit there and do that for several hours and drink some beer. Wait some time doing that. Yeah.

That's cool. Yeah, man. Go sit on the beach. I don't know. Dude, you can do anything you wanted. It's a lot. It's a long time. Yeah.

The next one has to do with Becoming Earnhardt. Tim wants to know. They've been incredible. He loves them. But what has been your biggest challenge and what's been the most, the best part of making them? The biggest challenge is trying to keep all of the stuff in there. So I, my class. So it's a tough challenge.

So the scrapbooks that I, that I had that started this whole thing, they have a bunch of information in them. But we've been digging in like a dozen other publications, right, to try to find little stories, right? Little fun stories. Something happened to somebody driving to the track. Something happened to somebody driving home. Something, you know, whatever. And the shows, Mike wants, you know, Mike and Dirtymo Media and the team, they want the shows to be roughly 35 to 45 minutes. And easy to listen to, easy, you know, and it's hard to pack all that stuff in there

and hard to keep all those little stories. And so me and Mike are really, kind of going back and forth with every episode going, all right, man, I'll let you take this out. Okay, well, we'll move this to this episode. And we can shorten this up. I'll reread this, and it doesn't have to be so long. To be able to find time, like, episode three, unedited is an hour and a half, right?

You told me? And we need to cut a hour, you know, 45 minutes out of this thing, right? And there is a, you know, the way I wrote it in the script of it is very wordy, right? And there's certainly, I'm certainly not the most talented. at that so there's ways to say the same thing in a very brief you know a few sentences so going back and re-recording stuff that part is really the the toughest part Mike tells me over and over we did this all backwards I came to them with the idea and really the whole script and said

this is the show and now they got to come in behind and and put in all the sound elements and read the script and go we need the sound element for that now we have to to go find it. Luckily, we've been given the entire archive of MRN. They've been so great to us to allow us to have, that really makes the shows come to life. That's probably the best part about it is be able to couple the narration with the actual audio of the race.

And so we're finding some really cool gyms of races that I didn't even know existed. And yeah, so I hope people. listen to it that's all I care about is just I think if you hear it and you get into episode two three you'll realize this is something special and unique and you know people all I think a lot of people some comments I see is people go well I've heard this you know I know I know what happened at Daytona in 1979 what could you possibly tell me that I don't already know and so I think you'll really be surprised if you dive into the show how we deliver it is really entertaining and there are some new revelations in there

Yeah. And so, especially beyond that race, right? What does everybody know about the rest of the season? I surely don't know much about it, not detail. And so it's kind of cool to relive it. I think, man, I wish there was this, I wish there was something like this out there for every year in NASCAR. Would you not want to sit out and just, like,

have a badass refresher course on 1992, 1989? Yeah. Like, what was that year like? What happened? What was the process of it? Pre-social media, too, all these little stories that you don't really, you'll never hear about unless they're told, passed down through people. Yeah.

And again, that goes back to trying to keep those little pieces in there. That's part of the personality of the show is that it's not just what dad did in 1979. It's all these little quirky things that, going on in the garage that really help you understand what the culture might have been like, right? Like, I want so badly to go back in time and walk through the garage at Charlotte on a Saturday before the World 600. Look at the cars, watch the people, see the mannerisms, and this is what I think the show can do. Yeah, you got to just put all the stories like five or six in there.

You might can't take them all out, you know? you take one or two. Mike, I end up keeping them all. We work hard at it. It's not that I'm trying to take them all out. It's a sequential thing. It's a sequence. Let me give an example.

And I say this is an endearing quality of Dale, right? And this is what we want. Let's say he's given a rundown finishing order of Rockingham. It would be something like this. Bobby Allison won the race. Kell Yarbrough finished second. Darrell Waltrip earlier in the week had a hemroyd. I'm sure that was probably bothered him.

Anyway, so you had Harry Gant finishing third and then you had dad finishing fourth and then oh by the way you know and so it's like wait wait wait what about supposed to do with this like we were trying to give the top five finishing order and then there's a story this diversion that goes wow way over here that's where I'm like I don't know what to do with this so we end up just going just leave it you know what Dale waltrow was doing there that's it though wonderful all right well that's all we got for today amen awesome questions appreciate everybody tuning in supporting everything we're doing here at dirty moe media we're working so hard to bring a bunch of great content to everybody and uh hope you're taking it in and enjoying it

and um again thanks for supporting us thanks to exfinity for everything to do for us and and our um all the things we do here at dirty moe media just uh let us know man what we're missing what you'd like to see from us what uh what you do enjoy what we can keep doing for you uh we love that feedback. We want to be making the content that you want. So help us do that. So don't forget today, as we get toward the end of the day, this episode of the Dell Jr. Download comes out on Monday. So the only week we're doing this, nothing tomorrow. Becoming our heart comes out on Wednesday, episode three. And I'm loving all the feedback that I'm seeing in my timeline on Twitter. I check it. I look at it and read everything you say.

about becoming earned heart or anything else we do. Everything comes across my timeline. I'm checking it out. So I appreciate all the great feedback I'm getting on that. All right, everybody. That was a lot of fun. Good show. Mike, thanks for making some adjustments for me to be able to allow us to happen on Monday.

And it's going to give me a little time with my family this week. It's always important. Family first, everybody. That's right. Don't never feel bad for putting yourself in a situation to be with your family more. and I hope everybody will tune in again to the episode of Becoming Earnhard on Wednesday and everything else we got going on this week. Let us know if you listen, if you can bring yourself to listen to actions detrimental this week,

give us your feedback whether you approve or disagree with Denny. And anyways, yeah, thanks for a great weekend. I hope everybody had fun. Enjoy your week. Going to Richmond this weekend. Cup race only. The Xfinity Boys will not be there. So just solely focusing it on Cup.

It's going to be a lot of fun, and we'll see you there. Check out Dirtymo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.