The Dale Jr. Download - 482 - Daytona: The Premier Drafting Track

Episode Date: August 29, 2023

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back from the NASCAR Regular Season finale at Daytona for another episode of Dirty Air. He joins co-host Mike Davis to break down the superspeedway action and debate a few other ...topics: The etiquette of liking or not liking bad news on social media Atlanta is NOT a superspeedway Justin Allgaier’s big Daytona win High speeds, big crashes and improved safety The debut of some new Dale Jr. Download segments During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners wrote in questions regarding: Have Dale’s favorite things held up since 2001? The story behind the relic Budweiser case Karsyn Elledge’s appearance on Claim to Fame Dale’s iPhone wallpaper and lock screen photos DraftKings State-Specific Problem Gambling Information:In Massachusetts, call (800) 327-5050 or visit gamblinghelplinema.org, In New York, call 877-8-HOPENY or text HOPENY (467369). In Tennessee and Kansas, Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER. On behalf of Boot Hill Casino & Resort (KS). In West Virginia, Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit www.1800gambler.net. All games regulated by the West Virginia Lottery. Please play responsibly. In partnership with Hollywood Casino at Charles Town Races. In Connecticut, Help is available for problem gambling call 888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:01 What are you make? I am weird. You are weird. What? Mr. Dalenhart Jr. Bye. That family technique sometimes. Gives you more than just a banana salad.
Starting point is 00:00:17 That's the voice of my co-host and one of my best friends in the whole wide world. Mike Davis. We're screwed. What was that me? No, we're not standing in that box together in our underwear. Are you kidding me, Mike? Oh, my God. It's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Junior download. Right here in the Bojangles studio with my co-host, Mike Davis. He's sorting out his phone situation over there. You kind of... It's got to be perfect. You get it figured out.
Starting point is 00:00:49 You got that ring on the back. It's weird. It's causing a bit of a fit problem. But hey, how you doing? Pretty good. Good. Yeah, Mike Davis, he's one of those people. He puts that little ring on the back of his phone.
Starting point is 00:00:59 Yeah. One of those kind. Haven't dropped it since. I drop mine a lot. Yeah, but you look way cooler. No, that's a good point. It's going to be a great show. We want to thank Ally for sponsoring today's Dirty Air,
Starting point is 00:01:14 and they're a great supporter of the Dale Jr. download, Dirty Mode Media, and everything we do here. And when our guest segments come back, I'm assuming an ally will continue to support us there as well. We've got some guests on deck. We're already booking for the final few episodes of this year, and I'm looking forward to that. We've got one really cool non-N NASCAR guy coming in here.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I can't wait to talk about. I know. I know who you're talking about, but we're not going to say it. We're not going to say it. All right. So anyways, thank you, Ally. Thank you for all you do for us for NASCAR.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You're an incredible sponsor that does so much, and we're thankful for that. Anyhow, man, there's so much, my brain is scrambled this morning. Yeah, there's a lot going on. Just came out of Daytona. We had a wild, wild weekend of racing. and anyhow, I got the playoffs coming.
Starting point is 00:02:05 We got everything coming. It's busy. It is. But let's get started. Right out of the gate, I wanted to ask you a question. Something been bothering me. We're going to get into the Daytona stuff.
Starting point is 00:02:15 We're going to get into the race and hang with us. But there's this one thing that I need to get cleared up. God, where is this going? I don't know, man. This is probably not, it's a social media question, to be honest with you. And it's kind of annoyed me. a little bit. Let me ask you a question. And this is everybody in the room. All right. So when you see a post
Starting point is 00:02:35 that you agree with, right? But it's not, it's like a, maybe it's bad news. Somebody got hurt or somebody, you know, some, it's not positive news. It's, it's, oh, darn, this happened. But you, you know, and you're, and you're, you're sad about it or you're mad about it or you're, you're, you're, you're, you know, you don't like it, you agree with the news, right? You agree with the news, but you don't like the news. Yeah. Yeah, I understand. But you don't want to reply to the post.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Don't want to put a comment. No. Right. But you want to show that you acknowledge this in some way. But the only way to do that, really, is, I guess, a retweets one way, but a heart alike. Oh, yes. That. There was a recent example of this.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You know what it was? It was Tommy Baldwin announcing he has cancer. Exactly. So, all right, that's the, that's, and shout out to Tommy and hope everything's going well there. He's going to fight that hardcore. But again, yeah, like, you're faced with this almost daily where do you like the tweet? Do you not like it? Is liking it?
Starting point is 00:03:53 What do you know, how do you handle it? I always don't. I don't. No. I don't like it. Don't. But there's people that have. have liked it. You see that there's people that have liked it and you're like, man, is it
Starting point is 00:04:03 okay to like it? Because I like Tommy. I want to support what Tommy's doing. I want to, I don't know if it cares, but maybe, you know, he, uh, maybe he does like appreciate all the support, right? Yeah. And so, oh, here was an example. So this is good. This is a great example. Washington, uh, Joe Jacoby was an offensive lineman. He's great. He's done Hall of Famer, but he's not getting in. And year after year, I see in my timeline from the people that I follow
Starting point is 00:04:31 that are Washington commanders media, right? They're like, oh, another year and Joe doesn't make it. And so, there was a tweet sharing the disappointment over that.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Right. And I too am disappointed. But I don't have a disappointed thing I can click. Not on Twitter. I don't have a thing where I go, yeah,
Starting point is 00:04:55 I'm disappointed to, do it's a heart it's a heart you can't heart that you can't heart that no what do you do what kind of person you're an animal if you heart that right you're a disgrace I agree there are people though that heart it and I know they're hearting it to show their support to the they're agreeing with the tweet of course but you can especially and I got to be honest with you I know you don't like when we put you on a pedestal but when you heart it then somebody just to be a jerk oh you You're going to sit there and say that. Oh, you're happy about this.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Dale Jr. Loves it when Joe Jacoby don't get in. Yeah. Okay. So I guess it is true. If you like it, it is confusing or confused as approval. Oh, it's toxic. I stay away from that.
Starting point is 00:05:38 That's a setup. It's a trap. Yeah. Well, what did you do? You stay away from it. I don't do it. And then I don't feel like I've been able to share my displeasure in agreement. I disagree.
Starting point is 00:05:48 I disagree. I think if you like a year in agreement with whatever the tweet says. That's interesting. So I think you're supporting. Right. His notion of I'm disappointed. Yeah, I support that. I like it.
Starting point is 00:05:59 Because in that moment, like I don't, you know, you might not want to reply. Yeah. To show it. You know, oh, yes, I agree. And you just want to hit a button, right? Hit a, hit a like or I agree. Yeah. I agree.
Starting point is 00:06:14 Yeah, I agree with that. I agree. Yeah. I support this. I would do that. I would like that tweet. Yeah. I agree button.
Starting point is 00:06:23 I've just wondered. I've wondered that for a while, man, because it happens quite often. If you spend enough time on social media, it'll happen daily. Oh, yeah, it'll happen daily. All right, well, Alex, though, if you go, all right, you can use the Joe Jacoby example if you want to, but what if it was the Tommy Baldwin announcement? Do you like that? Yeah, it's showing support.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I think it's tricky, though. If you leave it alone, I feel like it's even worse. Like, you're just not even acknowledging it. So I think if you like it. Or, I mean, Twitter retweet also. I think they're the same thing, so it really doesn't... See, that's mere... I think a retweet is...
Starting point is 00:07:00 More endorsement. Huh? More endorsement. Retweet is more endorsement. You think so? I think so. I agree. I think if you quote tweeted, it's...
Starting point is 00:07:09 That's different, obviously, because you're typing, but I don't know. A retweet in a life to me is the same thing. I know. I don't think so. For me, a retweet is... Is more like a... Hey, did y'all see this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:23 That's right. But it... Well, it... It's an endorsement. I don't know. I don't think a retweet is. I think sometimes I'll retweet stuff and go, damn, look at this.
Starting point is 00:07:32 If you retweet it, you're putting it officially on your timeline. You are. You're putting it in your, you are. You are. Yes, you are. You're putting it on your timeline.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I don't think about that. For people to see it, if they visit your timeline, they will now see it. You are endorsing it. You're right, but I don't never, I don't never go to anybody's profile. Doesn't matter.
Starting point is 00:07:50 I know, I know it don't matter, but I'm just trying to tell you like, I don't either. way I look at the way I when I retweet something I'm thinking I'm throwing that into the mix right when you're looking at your timeline and seeing everything you follow and what it's suggesting for you I'm throwing that in a pile to check this you know let's be real whether you like it retweet it tattoo it on your arm it's there for life there there will be somebody that goes back a year from now to to check it and uh no matter what you do you're you're stuck with it so I wonder
Starting point is 00:08:24 You know what the answer is? You don't do a damn thing is what you don't. Until we get a I'm disappointed to button or I agree button, the heart is the heart. It's so, the heart doesn't, the heart doesn't work for everything. Well, certainly not on Twitter. Yeah. Is that what it is?
Starting point is 00:08:45 A heart? Yeah, it's a heart. Oh, for God's sakes. There's no place for a heart on Twitter. Well, I mean, on Instagram is a heart. Yeah. Instagram's a better place for a heart. Facebook has all the different.
Starting point is 00:08:54 options but the same thing you can even cry on Facebook yeah oh really you could say the same thing though if they're I'm disappointed thumbs down I mean does that mean you're not disappointed that I didn't get in like it could be the same thing well now you're coming around and seeing the dilemma I know I'm with it it is confusing for me like on on Instagram the heart is functional because usually you're in in your in your feed is typically everything you're gonna like right so if you're in Twitter it's like it's all it's more it's information highway right
Starting point is 00:09:27 it's like a runway of just endless runway of just information things coming at you news news news news news news and so like the heart doesn't work as well there it's like a again they need to change you move away from that it needs to thumbs up or thumbs down
Starting point is 00:09:43 yeah like a like a like Pandora and Spotify like I like this I do not like this I think I agree and I disagree button would be pretty funny. I disagree with you. Or, and here's a thought, you could just say it. Why are you so against
Starting point is 00:10:00 the reply? I don't like to put a bunch of damn comments out there. But you're literally just saying, I want a button that says, I agree. You could just put, I agree. I'm I'm not one to be just interjecting comments. It's not my style.
Starting point is 00:10:16 What if you liked a comment? Yeah. What if you... Like in that situation, like for Tommy balling like someone in the replies like this is terrible like we wish him the best then you like that comment that shows you agree with right that good idea you know there you go that's right okay yeah scroll down find the comment that you like and then hit that yep yep okay there we go just solved it all right problem solution trying to get this guy to actually you know let us feelings
Starting point is 00:10:41 out a little bit more andrew you're talking about Andrew no you I mean Andrew just basically ended the conversation Andrew lets his feelings out way too much I thought you should give him to give him I like you're giving him an adder boy there. Another thing that pisses me off. So we go, this is now, we're going to talk Daytona. So. Did your heart Daytona? The stat boys,
Starting point is 00:11:06 professor, the professor, right? Yeah. On Dirty Mo Doe. He's part of the Racing Insights Group, Russell, Jimmy as well. They were at the race this weekend. And, And so this is for everybody in the room too.
Starting point is 00:11:29 Forever, we had two restricted plate racetracks, Daytona and Talladega for 50 years, right, for a long time. We've had two restrictor plate super speedways. All right. And then they built Atlanta, reconfigured it. And so, no, our group, the people that are, the people, in my circle I'm not going to say everyone out there I'm not going to say all you people listening I'm not going to lump everyone into this but no one knows what to call
Starting point is 00:12:01 these tracks anymore because we don't run a restrictor plate in the cup series all right so it's not a restrictor plate track anymore they had that people feel like you can't call it that because there's the plates don't exist all right so we're going to call them what you know what the insights guys the racing insights guys think they should be called or they they called them this at a convenience drafting tracks. Which is not really all that correct anyways because we draft at Michigan.
Starting point is 00:12:30 Sure. There's drafting everywhere. Yeah. But they're calling them drafting tracks, whereas maybe we should just stick to super speedways. You can't, you know, anything under two miles is not a super speedway. It's just a speedway.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Okay? Super speedways are Daytona and Talladega. Everything else is a speedway, even Atlanta. That's right. That's where I'm at. Yeah. It's a super speedway, those two. The reason why is because there was some statistics that came up during the Xfinity race.
Starting point is 00:13:05 All right. Laps led at restrictive plate race tracks or now drafting tracks, right? Dad's way out there in front, and then it's Tony Stewart, and then Austin Hill and me, or me and Austin Hill. We're all in there together, right? Well, half of Austin's statistics in laps led come from Atlanta. Doesn't count. Yeah, so I'm looking at rustling those guys. I'm like, wait, you're just going to let this guy climb the brakes from running Atlanta?
Starting point is 00:13:43 I didn't race it. Crowding. My damn laps from Atlanta ain't in there. Crown Austin is one of the greatest drafters of all the time. Now, dude, no bull's great at drafting. He is good. He's going to be, I mean, I said it. We said it on the pre-race.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Everybody's chasing this 21. I ain't trying to say he ain't good, but I'm trying to say it's skewing the stats. It is. It is. And by the way, they did have this same problem just talking on dirty mode. They were trying to handicap the Daytona field. And the professor brings up this, you know, I don't remember which guy they were talking about. But like, this guy's really good at Daytona, Talladega, in Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:14:22 and Steve Lutard's like, well, well, well, just leave Atlanta out of this. I'm not counting Atlanta. I'm not counting Atlanta for this. I'm not basing off my picks based off of what they do at Atlanta. And so the debate, the dilemma there just came up in that and in court in this statistic thing. All right. So, all right, Atlanta is wide open, drafting. It is all of the things that Daytona Talladega is, but it won't be forever.
Starting point is 00:14:49 It is going to get worn out. And they'll be sliding around, they'll be lifting, they'll be sliding up the racetrack, and the track will change. And then, therefore, it will no longer be a Super Speedway Daytona style method method, you know, as far as like how you'll go in there and race. Everybody approaches it like they approach Daytona Tala. Yes, I agree. It has a lot of similarities. But it won't forever. At what point, if we're going to lump them stats in today, at what point do we stop?
Starting point is 00:15:18 right no one you know i think it's muddy in the water too much well i will say this i let me just make one minor argument on behalf of the professor because the professor is pro atlanta right like that's how this all started oh he thinks Atlanta is right in there right if if his predictor model which we all value and we all think it's fantastic and it helps us out in determining stuff at whether it's notes for nbc or bets on dirty mo do he's got enough of a factor at Atlanta to have to factor into the equation of, you know, statistics and stuff. So when does it, when does that end whenever that becomes a non-factor? But I do think on behalf of the professor, I will say that you do, in his role, have to factor it in.
Starting point is 00:16:08 I think, I think factoring in, hey, can this guy win? That's true. It's a different argument. You certainly can use his performance at Atlanta. and go, look, man, everywhere they race like this. That's fair. I don't know. But when it comes, yeah, it's a different conversation.
Starting point is 00:16:24 We were talking about, like, statistics. Most flat-led and super speedway. You know, I don't think you can go Atlanta stuff in there. Unless you're throwing all Atlanta's history in there. Yeah. I agree that. Wow. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:16:38 All right, so does everybody else have an opinion on it? I just think Atlanta's its own track right now. Atlanta's a hybrid, man. Yeah, it's its own category right now. And I think you do the stats for Atlanta. in the past are just the mile and a half version. You just, I don't think you even count those when you talk about mile and a halfs now.
Starting point is 00:16:53 I think it's just a league of its own. Because when you go there, you pick the favorites to win based off the two or three, four races they've had since they start, not the old one. I do that. I do that. When I go to Atlanta,
Starting point is 00:17:02 I look at only Atlanta performance. I don't look at Dayton and Talladega and go, yep, man, he kicked their butt last time at Talladega. This is going to be a great race for him. Atlanta's its own thing. I agree. Yeah, that burned me a little bit. Friday night when I saw that.
Starting point is 00:17:19 I was like, damn, they better not put that stat on television. I'll be pissed. Oh. Well, you know, the professor's been, he's been triggering you lately. First, it was the medium plus, and now it's this. I give them a hard time. Man, oh, I'll bring some of the, so they print out these one-liners for us, right? So the Race and Insights guys do God's work for us.
Starting point is 00:17:46 I mean, it is amazing what they do. It is, they, they give us some incredible information. It make you look extremely smart. Yeah. And so we, it's our job to, they give us way more than we need and information. It's our job to be able to utilize it and use it. But one of the, one of the very basic things they give us is called a one-liner sheet.
Starting point is 00:18:05 And it's a one sheeter, every driver in the field, and one line about basically the most important thing about that driver for this race. like Austin Dillon, three top five's in the last five races here. Right. And the one liner is literally a bullet to use on the show, right? It's basically there for you to just spit out anytime you feel like it's convenient and matters. But them boys will write it in such a backwards way. Instead of saying Austin Dillon, three top fives in the last five races here,
Starting point is 00:18:44 the bullet will be Austin Dillon. And the last five races here, he is finished in the top five, three times, and it's like twice as long as it needs to be. Like you would never say it that way on television. You know? And so, I'll bring some examples.
Starting point is 00:19:05 No, no, no. I'm actually tracking with you, although I... They will write out a bullet in the long form. and like there's some really odd stuff. Like in the last 11 races here, eight times he scored a top five finish. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:19:25 well, do you just say eight top fives in the last 11 races? That's the way you say that. It's kind of like TJ and his phone number etiquette, like reading phone numbers. It's the exact same thing. It's like, I'm not going to get on the broadcast and go, hey guys, you know what, in the last 11 races here, he had eight top tens.
Starting point is 00:19:42 and you're not going to say that. You're going to say eight top tens in the last 11 races. That's how you would say it. Yes. You would say it the other way. I'm just saying they're giving statistics for a bunch of different people, all that probably have their own style. A one-liner.
Starting point is 00:20:00 And maybe they're not writing those to be read verbatim on the thing. That's what the one-liner sheet is. The one-liner is a ladder. But is it also for Steve LaTart, Jeff Burton, Rick Allen, Everybody gets the same thing. Okay. Well, I guess, you know, everybody's got your style. Maybe they don't write it in Dale Jr. speak specifically.
Starting point is 00:20:20 I guess. I mean, that's an argument. I don't know. It's like they're trying to fit the word limit on like an essay. I know. Let's pause. I don't know what you're talking about on that, Alex. You know.
Starting point is 00:20:31 You ever have like a thousand word essay and you're trying to make it longer? So you'd word it like that. So you get some extra words in there. You write it obnoxiously long. Yeah. Double space the paragraphs. Yeah. Well, you flew through school with that method, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:20:44 I didn't do it. My friends did. Here. Of course. He's pulling up from the old liners. All right, kid. Now, don't pick. You just read from the top.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Okay. Oh, okay. All right. Let me get the, um, Ross Chastain. From Alva, Florida, 200 miles from Daytona, 10 cups starts at Daytona. Best Finish of 7th.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Finished ninth there in February. Austin Cendrick, 2002, Daytona 500 champion, finished third in this race last year. Austin Dillon, 20 starts at Daytona. two-time winner, 2018, Daytona 500 in this race last year. Kevin Harvard making his 45th cup start at Daytona two-time winner.
Starting point is 00:21:22 Kyle Larson, 18 starts at Daytona, best-finished sixth. DNF and 9 of 18 Daytona starts, including the last four. That part, like that... These seem pretty succinct to me. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's not all... It's not... I'm just saying it's not all written backwards,
Starting point is 00:21:38 but like that part right there, DNF and 9 of 18 Daytona starts, including the last four. Do they want you to read that verbatim? Well, I don't know. What am I going to? No. They don't. Because it seems like all the, like, even the previous ones were just like stats that you then would translate into your own.
Starting point is 00:21:55 Yeah, in your own words. That's right. Here we go. Here we go. Eric Amarola from Tampa, Florida. Two of his three cup wins came on drafting tracks, including Daytona in 2014. Drafting tracks. Drafting tracks.
Starting point is 00:22:08 I don't like that. I don't either. That makes me think, did he win at Atlanta? Here's another one. Here's another one. Tell me, please, how you can say this better than this. Okay. All right. Finished top three, four of the last five races in 2023.
Starting point is 00:22:32 Well, you don't need that in 2023 because four of the last five races is four of the last five races. I don't think you can say that any better. I think that's a succinct and clean. Well, how would you say? say it better. I don't know. It just sounds clumpy to me. That's like eight words total or something. I know, but it just sounds
Starting point is 00:22:51 it sounds like you're saying one thing, three in three parts. Four top three's last five races. Something like that. Yeah. I don't know. We're the last five races finishing the top three four times.
Starting point is 00:23:08 Riley hurts. The last Cinco races. Trace. Trace top Sinkos. Right, wait, wait, wait, Riley Herps. He has Riley Herps in his third cup start all on drafting tracks. So let's be real. We know what the problem here is, and it's not the freaking, it's not the wording of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:27 It is going back to the drafting tracks. You can't get past it. You're going to go make him feel like they can't write just because they're using drafting tracks. Poor professor. Tyler Redick finished second here last summer. top five last two summer races at Daytona. Yeah, these are just statistical. I must have been getting on their ass enough that they fixed it.
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Starting point is 00:25:19 he felt sort of dejected. Yeah, that's what he told me. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a little surprising. Yeah. And so the one thing that I told Justin when I went to Victory Lane, I had one thing
Starting point is 00:25:32 to tell him. And I said, man, into turn three, the decision not to block the two was what won you the race. Amen. 100%. So this is, you know, this doesn't work out every single time. Like, look, man, I can tell you how to be good at restricted plate racing, but you're still, that's not going to lessen the 80% chance that you're going to crash.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Right. Not going to change it. All right. I can tell you the best method to choose and how to run the best race, but yeah, the odds of wrecking don't change for you. The odds of wrecking go up when you block. All right, if you choose not to throw the block on the two, you live to race the rest of that corner
Starting point is 00:26:21 and down the next straightaway to the flag stand, which would be the checker flag. And that gave him the chance to win the race. 100%. I heart that statement. If he throws the block, like we see so many times, more than likely he gets turned around erect. or they get upset enough that someone makes enough of a run to pass them all.
Starting point is 00:26:42 So, lesson learned for a lot of drivers out there that are looking at, you know, trying to get better at racing at those tracks. And what is the right decision in those moments on that final lap or four to go, two to go? If somebody gets a damn good run on you, it's probably best to keep your ass still. and, you know, throwing a block is really not going to change their decision on what they're doing with this run. They're going somewhere with it, and it might be right in the back of your car. They might clip the corner of your car trying to avoid you when you throw this block. One way or another, they're not going to decide not to take the run at the end of the race.
Starting point is 00:27:26 So what happens is, is Algar doesn't block. The two goes to the outside. Our guy actually takes the bottom So all right, you want to go around? Go around the high side. Go around the further way around. And he ends up, you know, the two sort of has, you know, gets a little indecisive or gets a little wobbly there.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Justin says he almost wrecked thinking that Justin was going to block. And so he was already reacting to a move that Justin did not make. Perfect. Exactly. And so that slows him down enough that Justin's now in position to side draft a little down to straightaway. The runs didn't come from behind. which I didn't really think about it till after the race,
Starting point is 00:28:05 talking to Parker Klingerman, I was like, damn, Parker, I was waiting on your car, you were going to push one of those or maybe get out there and go through wide. I was, in my mind, watching where you were going into three and through three and four,
Starting point is 00:28:21 I'm like the 48th's going to be in the middle of this. And his car never got going. And he's like, yeah, the double zero was behind me and wouldn't push me. because that's HIRPS teammate. And I was like, so the double zero sitting there.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Now, I don't know, Custer, he might have been full damn throttle trying his ass off. But, I mean, if Parker's right, then Custer's sitting back there going, yeah, I'm not going to push you, bud. We're just going to cruise on across the finish line here, just all nice and easy. What a hell of a thing, right? You just never know, just when you think you're in a great position, you're not. That was fascinating for me. So when, you know, just, there's a lot happening in a lot of agendas.
Starting point is 00:29:09 We talk about it all the time. We talked about it. In all our meetings, we talked about it on television. In the pre-race, we talked about it during the race, and it ain't bullsh. When you go to Daytona for the cutoff, I know that the Xfinity guys have a couple more races, but when you go to Daytona for the cutoff race, there's so many. many agendas out there. You got drivers that they're just there to win.
Starting point is 00:29:33 They ain't got shit else going on for their year. Their year's over for the most part. Then you have people that have to win. Then you have people that are already in the playoffs and probably don't want to, you know, probably aren't going to take all the risks. You got teammates out there that you might be in, but they're not in. And so you've been given some sort of idea to help somebody if you were in the position to help.
Starting point is 00:29:55 And in this case, in the Xfinity race, you got a guy that knew who, he was not going to help before the race even started, right? Boy, don't get in front of me. Don't get in front of me because your ass ain't getting pushed by this car, right? Yeah, right. Think about that, having to climb in your car before Daytona and go, all right, don't get in front of the double zero. Don't get in front of this guy.
Starting point is 00:30:15 Don't get in front of any of these cars because they're the ones that have probably been instructed all week long do not help this number, this car, right? And so, you know, I'll tell you, I'll tell you straight up. I text my guys and I said, hey, we're sitting in some meetings. We're sitting in some meetings with NBC. And Marty Snyder is like, you know, if you want to go to the front, who do you follow? 21. Really?
Starting point is 00:30:46 Yeah. Well, how are you going to get around him when you push him to the lead? He just ass ain't going to let you get to lead? Right. I worry about that when I get there. That's the problem. So I told my guys, I said, hey. if you want to run second to the 21, help him.
Starting point is 00:31:01 If you don't want to run second to him, don't help him. Because he's good enough at Daytona and Talladega and even Atlanta, the hybrid. Big drafting track. Yeah. He's good at those tracks, too good to help get to the front. If you give him the lead late in these races, that damn car gets wider and wider and wider. and it's damn near impossible to get around him without wrecking, without him wrecking, you wrecking.
Starting point is 00:31:32 And so why put yourself in that situation when you can try your hardest all day long to avoid helping that car, right, and do what you can for yourself otherwise to get to the front? So, yeah, like in a situation like that, I'll text my guys and say, hey, y'all do what y'all want to do, but I would not try to help that 21 get up front. because that is going to be the hardest car to beat all race long. You don't want to do anything that's going to help him out. Maybe this is why Algar was talking about feeling a little bit dejected when Brandon Jones fell out.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I mean, Jones got swiped out. But when you lose your teammates up there and you're trying to figure out how you're going to get to the lead, I mean, that would be a reason. I guess the part that surprised us is that Algar was committed to pushing him. maybe he was going to commit to pushing him to turn four and then also then try to race it out with him of course. Who's he? Justin, with Brandon Jones.
Starting point is 00:32:29 If Brandon would have stayed in the race. I think he was going to try to push the nine to the win. To get him in. Yeah. Oh yeah. I promise you if the nine's leading off a two and the seven's on his bumper, the seven would never try to pass him. Okay. I feel pretty confident about that.
Starting point is 00:32:45 We haven't talked about it. There were no orders. but I feel pretty good about Justin and having race for this team as long as he has knowing what was at stake. He would have probably done that. You're probably right. Yeah. Any more about that?
Starting point is 00:33:00 Well, nothing else. I mean, listen, can we just, I don't think we can overstate how awesome the victory and the celebration was for Justin, how long he's been trying to win there. And also, I know that if you were paying attention to the interview, you heard him shout out to Ms. Evelyn, who is a significant. She's part of the Brant family. And she was celebrating her 100th birthday, which did you, you may not have seen the video at the party, but they were watching the race at Evelyn's 100th birthday party. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:26 And it was bonkers. And then when he called her name out in his post-race interview, she was like, they're talking about me. And it was just this amazing moment at this birthday party, which had like 700 people. So the Brant family is obviously important to us. They've been a partner and, you know, they're damn near family. So that was really special with that. Yeah, I will say Rick Brant, who, you know, he's on Justin's car. He's not on Justin's car every week, but he doesn't care what's on that car when it wins that race.
Starting point is 00:33:58 He's as happy as if it was, you know, corn numbers. He doesn't care. Corn numbers. Yeah. He loves Justin. He loves Junior Motorsports. He loves when that car wins races no matter what's on the side of it. Moving on to the Cup series.
Starting point is 00:34:14 A lot going on in that race. race, big crash at the end of stage two, and a little difference of opinion between me and Jeff Burton and what caused that wreck. And the one thing that, the one thing I learned in that moment is the, and we talked about this, so I probably should have been a little smarter about it, but Dayton is changing. Dayton is the color of the track is changing. It's aging. It's getting slicker.
Starting point is 00:34:43 We talked about it in the Xfinity race. The cars were all. all looser. Everybody's complaining about the handling of their cars. Some drivers really struggled to get the cars comfortable. And we saw in Cup qualifying cars going up the racetrack by themselves. Just in Cup qualifying out there
Starting point is 00:34:57 by themselves, they were struggling to keep the bottom of the racetrack. And I thought, man, okay, this track's starting to get worn out. It's time to worry about handling. And we've seen a lot of pushing in the corners, and for the most part, that's not been, that's wrecked some cars at
Starting point is 00:35:13 times, you know, pushing a little bit too hard. especially the transition off the corners. So what we saw with the 54 of Ty Gibbs and his teammate, Christopher Bell, is not uncommon. But honestly, ma'am, like, when it was happening, I did not think the 20 was actually touching the 54. I knew that he had bumped him, like, moments before the 54 spun down the track. So he hits the 54, in my mind.
Starting point is 00:35:40 The 54 gets out of control, and he's trying to gather it back up. and as the 20s coming back to him, they either touched again or the 20's close enough to affect his arrow while he's trying to regain control and he steers, you know, the car steers loose down the track into the
Starting point is 00:36:00 into the low lane. Very common sort of crash, very common sort of reaction of a car I've spun off a turn 4 by myself in like the 2017 Daytona 500 I can't remember what it was. By yourself, that's right.
Starting point is 00:36:16 It was early. It might have been the 16, 2000. Yeah, but I'm out there trying to side draft and got a little aggressive with the steering wheel and spun myself down into the inside wall. And so, you know, either way, you know, the Blaney said on Twitter that it was a bad push, you know, and so I'll take his word for it. I'll take the driver's word for it every day. They're out there driving them cars.
Starting point is 00:36:43 We are now, I transitioned. in that wreck from, yeah, pushing in the corner is okay as long as you know what you're doing. As long as you know what you're doing. Look, man, we saw the six push the 17 through turns one and two on the last lap. So pushing can be done. But we're now at a point where this track has aged
Starting point is 00:37:02 and got slick enough to where you damn sure got to be careful, more careful than ever, more aware. You can't carelessly just be bouncing into the back of the car in front of you anymore where you had so much grip before you could. So you're saying you changed your mind in that moment? Right. Mid-reck. It's like, all right, yeah. If I saw that, I got to go, as a driver out there on the track,
Starting point is 00:37:24 I got to go, I better re-evaluate how I feel about pushing somebody in the corner when it's, you know, at the end of the stage or at the end of that race, when you're Brad Kislaski's position, you kind of got to do it. You kind of have to do it. Yeah. And, you know, and. And how do you do it without wrecking somebody? Maybe if it doesn't feel right in the moments,
Starting point is 00:37:50 you kind of read the room and you see the, you know, everybody's on the old tires and slick, and maybe you just don't do it. They may not be able to handle it at that time. They may not be able to handle it. Yeah. If their car's loose already, they damn sure don't want any pushing in the corner.
Starting point is 00:38:03 But it's changed. That tracks change quite a bit. Nasty, nasty crash, um, scary crash watching the 12 hit the wall head on. In my mind, I'm sitting there going, they ain't no way anybody's hit the wall harder than that right there. I think he hit the wall at 180, 183 miles an hour, and it was full on head on into the fence.
Starting point is 00:38:26 I saw some comments from Denny on his podcast about, you know, the Hans, the safer barriers and all those things. And, you know, I agree with him. It's, you know, that crash 20 years ago, you know, probably injures Blaney and maybe someone else in that crash is injured as well. You know, you just don't know. But it was a nasty, nasty hard wreck. Those things, you know, I don't know what people, you know,
Starting point is 00:39:03 when in the broadcast booth at Daytona watching a car run into the wall wide open like that, you know you you've got to shut your mouth you just shut your mouth and and you're going to get an opportunity once everybody's once it's understood that everybody's not hurt right we'll do nothing until we realize everybody's safe there's not going to be a replay in typical protocol we have a crash like that we're not showing nothing until we know everybody's safe when we go to a replay the race you the drivers will cover what we're seeing and what we think was going on. And then, you know, that's it. You don't assume or, you don't make assumptions about health or any of those things.
Starting point is 00:39:52 You don't make any comments about anything like that, right? The well-being of the drivers. It's all got to be factual information. And most of that information is going to come through the headset to Rick for him to share. That was never more evident to me than in the priest rec. I don't want to jump ahead, but I will say that, in two different ways. One was in the actual broadcast
Starting point is 00:40:13 where there was very much intentional to stay wide on that wreck until there was movement by priest or he was out of the car. But also, I watched the YouTube Dale Jr. Cam footage. And I watched you and Jeff Burton
Starting point is 00:40:30 react to that while it was happening. And you guys very specifically just watched and did not jump in with reactions. Although I knew you had them. I knew you had them. knew you had them. I mean, you always have opinions and reactions, but you guys very deliberately did not speak up and let that thing unfold. So I think that was, that was evident to me in the Precrect. Yeah. But anyhow, yeah, with the priest rec, that was just, I'm going to tell you, man,
Starting point is 00:40:54 I've, I've, everybody was so taken aback by that crash. Me too. Yeah, everybody. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, man. It was. You weren't? No. I mean, it looked like a lot of crashes I've seen in my life. Really? Yeah. Well, I mean, there's definitely been barrel rolls, and there's definitely been, you know, cars flipping, for sure. You brought that up.
Starting point is 00:41:21 It's very old school. Yeah. So. I've never seen a car do that many rotations in the air. Really? If there's been one that was even close, I can't think of it. You would know better than I would. Well, I mean, I wouldn't know exactly what rec would have that many rotations
Starting point is 00:41:35 before hitting the ground again. but like I mean Dick Brooks wrecked at Talladega on the backstretch in the mid-70s nasty wreck I mean the image of him crawling out the front windshield of that car is insane
Starting point is 00:41:52 covered in dirt roof crushed and he's getting helped out by two or three guys it's like the most it's one of the most incredible like profound photos ever taken in NASCAR's history is that picture of Dick Brooks
Starting point is 00:42:08 getting helped out of the front windshield of that mercury. And so, if you haven't ever seen it, man, you need to look at it. Think about doing it right now. That wreck right there is kind of, for me, the first big Super Speedway, Talladega,
Starting point is 00:42:29 Ryan Priest-style wreck. You're going to watch the damn wreck. 175, Talladega. And so, fast forward to, not really fast forward on your video, Mike, but fast forward to, let's see, here you go. So he's barrel rolling all the way down the back straightway. Of course the cars doesn't lift and all that.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Right, it's on the ground. It's rolling on the ground. But yeah. Still nasty. I mean, no doubt about it. And so you go to, you fast forward to like, Rusty Wallace wrecking at Talladega, of Rusty Wallace wrecking at Daytona, I mean, Rusty Wallace had so many flips.
Starting point is 00:43:10 But there's a lot of examples of nasty, nasty crashes down the back straight. Darrell Waltrip, you know, flipping the Western Auto Car. I've got that car in the woods. Oh, really? Yeah. So that one, look at it. Boy, Rusty's was pretty vicious. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:43:32 And it had a good handful of barrel rolls in the air, right? Yeah. So when I saw Preas wreck, my mind went right to those crashes with the dirt getting in the car and flying out of the windows in every barrel roll, just mud and dirt
Starting point is 00:43:49 going everywhere. Window nets flying loose and the hood, you know, the top come out of the roof. None of that was like, shocker. Like, oh my God, how did that happen? It's like, damn, yeah, I've seen that before. you know, we've got way more safety and technology in the cars today than we did when we were seeing those wrecks more often.
Starting point is 00:44:18 It has been a long time since we've seen a car get airborne like that and barrel roll and do the things you're talking about. It has been a while for sure. We don't see it anymore. We thought, you know, I guess we thought, hey, we got enough apparatuses on the cars now that those wrecks are a thing of the past. Well, I guess they aren't. I guess they aren't. In the right perfect scenario, physics takes over and does what it does.
Starting point is 00:44:45 Right. Steve will say, you know, Steve's opinion, Latar's opinion was, well, everything was fine until it got to the grass. And when it got to the grass, the distance from the bottom of the car to the ground changes, and more air can get underneath it. And then it went up.
Starting point is 00:45:01 Partly true, I imagine. I don't just, I'm not saying that's incorrect. but that car turned that car got turned so quickly and was in that position right when it went airborne so quickly it had not scrubbed any speed off so it's the lift point for
Starting point is 00:45:19 this car is way lower than you think it's not 185 miles an hour it's not you know it's not 175 miles an hour it doesn't take much to get these cars airborne but that car was going way faster than I believe they assume a car would go in that moment when it's gotten
Starting point is 00:45:39 into that position. Yeah. Almost like a wing. Typically, they have an idea that cars are going to probably slow down, I don't know, 25, 35 miles an hour by time it gets to that point. And they try to create tests and
Starting point is 00:45:53 create roof flaps and all the apparatuses and safety things on the cars to try to keep the car on the ground in that window of speed, right? This car was far above that. I don't think anything NASCAR would have
Starting point is 00:46:09 done or could do would keep that car on the ground. I think that this is one of those scenarios where there's not much you could have done to avoid the end result. The car turned, it was going way faster in that moment when it gets airborne, and
Starting point is 00:46:28 I don't know how you stop that. I really don't. I'm glad to hear you say this because as is most the cases when something like this happens, whether it's in NASCAR or anything else, everyone feels like they need to have a solution and an answer right away. And so what you had is some people basically going dig up the grass in every race track. Pay you the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Which is, I'm like, wait a second. Grass didn't do nothing really bad here. Like we're going to go ahead and incriminate the grass? The grass is in there. And so it's like before we, and I don't know about what grass is rolling that was. but my point is, is that I thought that that was kind of an abrupt reaction to start saying it was the grass that caused it and that must be fixed. Yeah, I'm not so sure that's it either.
Starting point is 00:47:15 Again, there's not any experts really talking about that. I think that the grass probably serves a purpose other than just aesthetics anyways. But yeah. So I guess my question to you then would be maybe if you're on the position that not much could have really done. then should NASCAR go back and try to make improvements on the car? I think that you don't touch the racetrack. You don't need to pave the back straightaway. That's probably unnecessary.
Starting point is 00:47:46 I wouldn't do that. I believe that, you know, you're still, you haven't really solved the problem by paving the surface of the back straightaway infield. You get a car turned around at that rate of speed. It's going in there. The rocker panels are rolled. All right. When we look down at the very bottom of the rocker panels,
Starting point is 00:48:09 the rocker panels aren't a sharp edge. It's not a 90-degree sharp edge. It's rolled, right? So it's like the bottom of a wing. There could be some, you could look at that rocker panel and go, maybe if we change the shape of the rocker panel, would that change the lift? Right?
Starting point is 00:48:26 Would that change how air can climb under the car? I don't know that. but I would look at the rocker panel and how it is rolled. Now, when that car goes up in the air, right, and we see the bottom of it, the bottom is flat. It's panned from one end to the other. It's a flat pan, right? I don't know if there's something they can do at Super Speedways
Starting point is 00:48:48 with the undercarriage of the car to where it creates a different scenario. I don't know that all of those things are that critical and that important. I think what, and I don't know that changing the package and changing the style of racing there can avoid that, right? If you still, you still could, you know, all you need is two cars on the racetrack to recreate that wreck. You know, that wreck wasn't a product of pack racing or, or restricted engines or any of that. Two cars, two or three cars right there is all you needed to have that car flip like that. um the 43 eric jones love him to death
Starting point is 00:49:32 great dude he hit him an ass pretty hard you know what i mean he hit him pretty damn hard i mean it's late in the race you're trying to give a guy a shove a lot of times though those hard hits are really not that productive you know but he hits him hard and it and it turned him out of control yeah like there was not any chance for priests to save it
Starting point is 00:49:53 um even if no you know even if he doesn't get struck by the car on the inside briscoe he's going to in the dirt, he's going in the grass, he's going in the infield. He gets hit like that. He's, he was off. He was gone. So I think it's, unfortunately for me, man, I'm thinking in this scenario, there doesn't need to be your reaction. Could be everything did its job right, right?
Starting point is 00:50:14 Like, it could be. I mean, think about it. If Priest gets in the car and races this weekend at Darlington, I would say, hey, everything worked as designed. That's my point. Yeah, I mean, like, listen, if we go back and take a broader look at it, Ryan Blaney and Ryan Priest, are still with us and I don't know yeah if if prece is going to race this weekend I have honestly haven't heard I know he was held not 100% cleared yet but I think he you know his playing is but uh I mean kudos to somebody that car that car held enough together I know
Starting point is 00:50:47 the roof uh came open and the neck came open and that kind of stuff but Ryan priest is still with us man think barrel rolling through the air it's not some things you you can't worry about that wind and it and all these things coming apart because Because in that scenario, I mean, the roof was crushed. I think there was some deflection in the actual hoop bar where the wind in at bolts or snaps up there. So, I mean... The car actually held together better than it. You go back and look at the Dick Brooks and the Rusty Wallace.
Starting point is 00:51:16 Those cars are shedding parts. Yeah. Back to RFK, you know, they're kicking, kicking ass. I don't, you know, three wins by Christopher Bush in the last five races. Christopher Bush or Chris Busher I'm sorry RFK is doing really good
Starting point is 00:51:39 obviously they're going into the playoffs with a lot of momentum Christopher Busher has three wins in the last five races that's something I didn't think any of us ever saw coming but he had Brad who is really really good at pushing helping him at the end of that race and teammates
Starting point is 00:51:58 I said I was like man I called that one because I went on the pre-race and stood next to those cars. We had a hit where we're going to just talk drafting, talk racing. Just kind of we had basically they're like, we're coming to y'all, where do y'all want to be, talk about the racing here. That's all you had to do. And I said, all right, let's stand next to these two cars. They're going to probably work together.
Starting point is 00:52:17 They're teammates. Let's talk about teammates and how helping each other is the secret to winning. And damn it, if those two cars didn't end up going nose-to-tail across the finish line for the win. Like scripted. I mean, like you talk about these races. going off script, man, they were just like, that's their brand now. Yeah, I know it. They got a good thing
Starting point is 00:52:36 going on, man, and I hope that they can continue it in the playoffs. The American mystery case is now solved. Did you put that in there? Yeah. You did? Yeah, me. Do you want to take us on? Well, I mean, I'm just saying now we can It's kind of weird for me to read your notes.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Oh, I just put it in there. I honestly didn't think you. Just like Russell probably doesn't assume that you're going to read his one-liner. I didn't assume you're going to read that on the air. But why did you put it in there? Because, I mean, we can finally stop talking about the big, you know, is Chase going to make it?
Starting point is 00:53:05 Chase did not make it. Okay. And now it's over. Now we can move on with more pressing matters. I mean, to be honest with you, Chase honestly tried to diffuse that, you know, for the last several weeks. Everybody like, can he point his way in? Chase didn't think he's going to point his way in.
Starting point is 00:53:19 So then it's like, can he win? Well, you know, I don't think Chase, I don't think the nine is actually running that well to be, you know, just thinking they're just going to go in there and win. Yeah. Well, you know, he was, frustrated. And I mean, I get it, man.
Starting point is 00:53:32 You get an ass the same thing every week. You answered it last week. The answer's the same this week. You get tired of it. But as, you know, one of the bigger figures in the sport, he was gracious with his time, gave us a little interview pre-race. Yep. And he, he, you know, he did everything we asked him to do leading up to the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:53:55 But no, he will not be racing for a championship this year. and I don't think it's anybody's fault. I keep seeing all this crap about Alan. What in the hell is wrong with people? Who's saying that? That's lunacy. Twitter? Chase Elliott, Twitter is like trying to think he's.
Starting point is 00:54:09 We got a few reaction theater calls too. Really? Okay. It's stupid. Yeah, it really is. Like, does people not remember why he missed races and that he was even out for several weeks and that he got penalized and was suspended for an event?
Starting point is 00:54:22 None of that had anything to do with Alan. And they start, you know, if an owner The owners championship matters to anyone, it does to the owners, they are still contending for that. They did make the owners playoffs. I'll tell you what. If you take Allen and he goes somewhere else or crew chiefs for somebody else, he'll going to whoop your ass.
Starting point is 00:54:42 Yeah, what a heist that would be if somebody would take Allen. Yeah, he'll go somewhere else and just run circles around you. He is, this is a fun little conversation we had during the race weekend, the owner's points. So Chase is still in the owner's points. playoff. He's not in the driver's part, but he's in the owners. The nine cars still raced while he was out, so they did well enough to actually make it into the owner's points. That matters more to people's wallets than anything. And that's the last, I'm going to talk
Starting point is 00:55:14 about it the rest of the year. Don't care. Don't care. Don't care about owner's points, right? Tell me who the driver's championship is, and when we go to the banquet, we'll acknowledge the owner. I love it Hard He's a cold man I'm the same way I mean I'm the same way
Starting point is 00:55:34 I don't give the owner's points And I don't want to talk about it on TV And I don't want to I don't want to waste minutes Describing this shit Putting up a graphic And saying yeah
Starting point is 00:55:45 Here's the owner's points everybody We'll go to the banquet We'll celebrate the owner As we should And he will have a great damn time and that'll be that. I'm not disagree with you at all. I don't think about owners.
Starting point is 00:56:03 I just think it's funny to hear you say it out loud. It's almost like you had a funny line in the broadcast when you guys were talking about Denny Hamlin on whether he would push. And you were like, look, I don't disagree with him. The difference is I just never would have said it publicly. Yeah. Well, I wouldn't want my, I mean, if I'm driving for an owner
Starting point is 00:56:21 and I'm going to push my car that I own, I'm not going to tell my owner. Right. I'm not helping my teammates. I'm not helping my teammates in the cars that you own. I'm not going to help them. I would just do it, right? In the moment, I'd cross the finish line and I'm pushing my car and I'll go, hey, in the moment, that was the better option to me. In the moment, that was how I thought I was going to win the race or whatever, right? Figure it out. If it comes out. But anyway, so not going to talk about owners championships anymore. I almost think we should start a segment called Owners Championship update just to see if Dale Jr. It's annoyed by it.
Starting point is 00:56:56 It's basically going to be the same thing. Mine is Chase Elliott and Bubba. That's right. That's hilarious. All right. So we got a playoff bracket. We're going to do that. Let's get it.
Starting point is 00:57:06 All right. We got our playoff brackets in front of us. I have Dale's preseason bracket in front of me as well. You got my... Your preseason bracket, yeah. Let me hear it. You missed... So I'll give you the guys you missed.
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah. So you didn't have Busher, Keslowski, McDowler, Stenhouse. They all made it. Yep. You had Chase Elliott, Alex Bowman, Allman, and Swart. is making it.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yep. So they're out. Who's in my four? Your championship four? Yeah. Blaney. You have Blaney, Bell, Hamwin, and Truex, and Blaney is your champion. I don't remember what mine was, and I don't expect that you.
Starting point is 00:57:36 You only gave us a champion and it was Denny Hamlin. Right. Okay. All right. By the way, I'm sticking with that. All right. So Mike. Mike, we're going to go round to 12.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Let's do it. Let's just say we're going to pick the four drivers that we don't think get in. Got it. All right, that's probably easier. I've already done it. Oh, you have. You filled yours out. I did.
Starting point is 00:58:01 All right. Give me your four that doesn't make it. All right. The four that do not make it to the round of 12 for me are Bubba Wallace, Tyler Reddick, Michael McDowell, and your champion, Ryan Blaney. Damn, son. Yeah. Booted Blaney out. I did boot Blaney out.
Starting point is 00:58:17 And I've got reasons, although they're probably wrong. I don't mind. I'm not. This is where I would love to have the professors. you know, tool and model because what do you race at? Darlington, Kansas, Bristol, like you could probably come up with some, you know, the four that run there the worst. But anyways, yeah, I just, these guys are accident prone.
Starting point is 00:58:39 Like, they are not accident prone. They are mistake prone, whether it's not just them as drivers, but it may be their crew. It may be their pit crew. Something like that. You cannot have a mistake at this stage. So, I mean, in the playoffs at all. So, like Bubba Wallace, certainly been on. a streak lately, but I think, you know, I just don't have the confidence in either one of those
Starting point is 00:58:59 2311 teams, Tyler Redick or Wallace, that the teams are going to go through those three races without having some sort of mishap. McDowell, I feel bad about that. Ryan Blaney, I just, I think that one of the Penske cars do not make it to the round of 12. So I'm sitting there going, is it Legano or is it Blaney? I just don't see enough speed in the Penske cars right now. I don't think they're running well, and they would have to be perfect. And so one of them doesn't make it. My four is going to be McDow, Chastain, Stenhouse, and Bubba. So you add Chastain. Yeah, Chastain's interesting.
Starting point is 00:59:35 They're not running well. They're not running consistently fast. There's a lot of people like that. Yeah, there are a lot of like that. I'm telling you, it's hard to pick that. McDowell's tough to choose in this group. I could be wrong absolutely about any of these for sure. But I'm just going to go with McDowell, Chastain, Stenhouse, and Bubba.
Starting point is 00:59:54 and then moving on into the round of 12. Take your drivers. Now who does not make it through the round of 12 for you? In the round of eight? Who does not make it through round of 12? Into the round of eight. You know what I mean. For me, no, now I do.
Starting point is 01:00:10 My four that are out are Kyle Bush, Kevin Harvick, Joey Legano, and Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson was a tough one for me, but you got Talladega in there. Larson is admittedly does not do well at the drafting tracks. Very rarely finishes. I just, you know, and then Kyle Bush is a wild car. Like he could go and win them all for all I know, but that's my four.
Starting point is 01:00:41 Bush, Harvick, Lugano, Larson. Dang. And that's also me not feeling great about Penske. Penske right now just hasn't shown me a lot lately or all year for me to think that they're just going to go sail through these rounds. so that would take out if Lugano goes out that means there are no Pinsky cars left Harvick just man in this post-race interview
Starting point is 01:01:10 Harvick just did not seem like confident in his team like he didn't even want to make a prediction he's like I don't know getting into this he looked disgruntled I'm going to say in the round of 12 the four that I have not making it
Starting point is 01:01:26 Brack is Lowski Kyle Busch Reddick And Harvick. Okay. Cal, Reddick, so you're round of eight. Okay, I think our round of eights are pretty similar with the exception of two. He's got both Penske cars in there.
Starting point is 01:01:55 He's got both Penske cars in there. You're feeling good about Penske Carver being there? All right. I think they get going when it's time to get going. All right, so the final four, for me, I'm not going to change what I chose in the preseason. I'm probably, I wish I could, all right, but I believe that when you pick it, you stick with it. I don't believe it's fair for me to go,
Starting point is 01:02:19 oh, yeah, I'm going to change now at the end of the year. But it would be okay if you did. Really? Absolutely. You should, in fact, take another pass at that and just don't feel guilty about going off something. I mean, you've got a whole year. I still am going to pick Blaney as my champion.
Starting point is 01:02:39 Okay. All right. Truex makes it. Denny makes it. Byron and Blaney. Okay. So I'm taking Bell out of my final four, and Byron is going in. Okay. I don't know that we're too dissimilar, with one big exception.
Starting point is 01:02:57 So my out guys are Busher, Bell, Chastain, and Stenhouse. They don't make the round of four. I'm going to leave this with you. We'll hang it up. Yep. Well, hold on. You know who that means it's in? my four is Kuzlowski. I think Kislauski. Wow, big time. My final four is Byron, Truex,
Starting point is 01:03:15 Hamlin, and Kislowski with Hamlin winning the championship. All right. There you go. All right, everybody's time for Ask Junior. And that is brought to you today again by Xfinity. We thank Xfinity for everything they do. Their 10G network is killer. And I'm a customer. I enjoy it. And it does good. We're getting ready to put it through a hurricane, I guess. Hurricanes coming up through the southeast. It is coming. We'll see if old 10G can hang. We'll see if 10G can hang in our again.
Starting point is 01:03:49 All right, yes, it should be good. So let's get going to Andrews here. He's got the questions. Yeah, this first one comes from David, and this was awesome. So he found your 2001 Budweiser Hero card, and it listed your favorite TV show, favorite band, favorite food, and favorite actor.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I saw this on my time. Okay, so do you know, do you know? Sometimes I see tweets and I'm like, I wonder if this is one no ask. So here we go. So it was the Simpsons, the Matthew Good Band, chicken is your favorite food, and John Travolta. Does that still hold true today?
Starting point is 01:04:24 The office is the TV show, right? Yep. That replaces the Simpsons. Okay. Band is the dangerous summer. Food. Food is buffalo chicken wings. and then the last one was what?
Starting point is 01:04:48 It was favorite actor. Oh. Who did he say? John Travolta. Oh, dude, that's such, yeah, I know who the answer to that is. I wish I'd have taken a guess at these before I knew the answers. Yeah. On who his guesses were back in 2002.
Starting point is 01:05:03 Dang. I don't even know who my favorite actor is these days. I don't watch too many movies anymore. It's not Tom Hanks. I thought that was going to be your answer yet. Yeah, me too. I hadn't seen. I mean, I haven't watched a lot of movies lately.
Starting point is 01:05:17 Like currently, my favorite actor, I don't know that they're, I have to think about that one. Don't really have one. All right. We'll come back to it. Yeah. Come back to it. Try to think about that.
Starting point is 01:05:29 In like 20 years. Right. This next question comes from Kyle. And they saw you put on, I think he was your Instagram story, a case of Budweiser from 2007. I think the expiration date was July 4th. Where did you find that? July, it was July 4th, 2007.
Starting point is 01:05:48 Somebody in our family had it and had hung on to it for a long time, and I walked into the farm shop the other day, and it was sitting up on the counter. So I put it on me as the story. Nice. Yeah. That had to be a cool throwback to see. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:03 I mean, I don't know how many, how many, well, I think it was an 18-pack. I don't know how many of those still intact, undranked from 2007. Not many. My mug's on every can. Yeah. Car on the box. Yeah. I don't know how many of those are left.
Starting point is 01:06:22 Yeah. You have to crack it open on a special occasion. Even though it's extremely... Listen, right. I don't see Dale Jr. ever drinking a beer that has his face on it, frankly. I don't think that he would do that. He would think it's weird. Am I wrong?
Starting point is 01:06:35 Yeah. Am I on the sun drops? Yeah, you are. I mean, beer's beer. I don't know if your face is on it. I would drink. I think it is. I would still. Oh, maybe it is. I would. I mean, I'm putting it in a coozy anyways. Yeah, that's right. So just not a coozy with your face on it then. That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:53 And this next question actually comes from our good friends at Xfinity Racing. They saw Carson on the show Claim to Fame. And people thought she was related to Jeff Gordon. I don't know if you saw that episode or your thoughts on that. Yes. So the show is over. She almost got to the end. I got to see, I thought she did great. I was proud of her. She did a good job. And when she was telling me about going to do that, I was really nervous for her.
Starting point is 01:07:24 But she was great. Seems like she had a lot of fun, made some great friends, and it was a great experience for her. That's all you can hope for. Yeah. So I was pretty happy about it in the end. I know her mother was very, very proud.
Starting point is 01:07:38 I saw she tweeted about it. I think it was last night. Kelly thought it was incredible. Kelly had a watch party with all her friends, and it was Kelly's birthday yesterday, and so she had a big birthday. That's cool. This next question comes from Mike, and he asks, if you could go on a road trip with you and your dad,
Starting point is 01:07:57 and there was a shared playlist, what songs do you think would be on there from both of you guys? He would listen to some Brooks and Dunn and Edward McClinton and trying to think. He like... Did you say you had like meatloaf? Yeah, I remember there being the bad of the hell album was in his collection. Gotcha. It's a recognizable cover.
Starting point is 01:08:20 So when you're 12 years old and you see that cover, you're like, damn, what's all, it's a lot going on here. Yeah, therapy's next. He listened to, you know, a lot of late 70s, 80s, early 80s rock and roll, classic rock and stuff like that. what would be considered classic rock today. So that would probably be our playlist. Nice. Yeah. That would be a good cruising.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah. Cruising playlist to have. For sure. All right, we got time for one more. This one comes from Rick. What's your iPhone wallpaper background or, like, your screensaver? My wife and my girls. So on the lock screen, it's a picture of Amy and my two girls.
Starting point is 01:09:09 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And when I go into the phone, it's black. Just, I don't like, I can't see the emojis and I can't see the folders and everything. It's too busy when there's a picture in the background. Yeah. I like it blank, like the, like the, like my, nothing there.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Like the desktop on my computer when I like get into Windows, like, I don't want to, I don't need all this stuff in the background. I'll see where everything's at, right? Blank, just like his art. In his feelings, in his compassion. It's void. It's blank. It's empty. Like if you were to open up the original iPhone, like that's what the wallpaper looks like.
Starting point is 01:09:50 Yeah, there you go. Oh, man. Nice. What is y'all? Mine's blurred. So it's kind of similar. Yeah. Blurred?
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah. It's, uh, unlike one of the new updates, you can blur the picture. So it's kind of just like a picture. So you can still see all the stuff. Yeah. It's blurred out. Not like that's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:06 We'll teach you. I got, yeah. I got a rotation of, like 30 different pictures. It just like it goes through. It just gives you one a random one? No, I pick them. I pick them. So it goes through. You continuously change them? Every now and then.
Starting point is 01:10:20 Yeah. Yeah. Have you updated your phone? You can do the same thing. I just don't have the time to be sitting around looking for wallpaper. Changing my wallpaper. I think that's the point of what Andrew's saying is that it does it for you. Yeah. Well, you can choose folders. I asked him just now.
Starting point is 01:10:36 I said, wait, it'll do this for you and he goes, no, no, I pick them. Well, okay. You can do both. It can do it for you or I pick them myself. I handpick them. But there are options. But I don't and it's different. It mine's the current weather situation outside. And so right now I can know it's cloudy. Okay. It's cloudy and dark just like Dale's heart. I do not hate these options. So I'm going to look into that. But I mean, I keep my shit up to date. My phone ain't behind. I don't know. I think he's been exploited a little. I don't know what the hell kind of person you think I am, but I'm not one to walk around with an old-ass update on my iPhone. Not used to be, but now it seems like there's a new day.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I'm not that kind of person. All right. Now I know. Now I know. Teaching how update. If I see you in the hall, I'm like, that's daily. When I get the icon for the update, I'm one of the first ones to be downloaded. Oh, you're the first to hit it.
Starting point is 01:11:29 Yes. I'm going to tell you something. Look, I think he's all talk. I think he's all talk. You know, he does not remember this, but there was a day years ago at some racetrack and in his bus. where I got my first iPhone and I'm trying to do something, probably trying to get service,
Starting point is 01:11:43 so it must have been at Talladega. And he's like, you don't even know the capabilities of your phone. That's a shameful thing. You don't even know. You just don't even know. And I'm just like, all right,
Starting point is 01:11:53 then please, I know what he wants. He wants me to ask for help. And that's what he wanted. But I think there's a new day. I think you are going to ask him for help. What the hell did that story have to do with this? Then you think you used to be.
Starting point is 01:12:05 What the hell did that story have any fucking connection? I'll tell you. You used to think that you were all the techie guy, the one that was all the one to update. I don't think you are anymore. Well, that's your opinion. Well, I think it's mine and everybody else is in the room. I don't think so. I'm just the only one to tell you.
Starting point is 01:12:19 You're really. I'm the only one to say, you look like you are aged. You used to be the tech guy. You're trying to wheel this into existence, Mike, and it ain't happening. No, you did it for us. You did it for us. I've fixed so much shit around here. You're blank.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Your screen is blank. That's the way I want it. Yeah. It's all you know how to do. No, I want it that way so I can read. Read the words and see the icons. That means your eyes are going. No.
Starting point is 01:12:43 See, this is it. Anyways, for those just joining, the question was, what is your wallpaper on your phone? Oh, man. Good times. Yeah. Anyways, yeah, that's a good place to end Ash Jr. Before you guys get into another argument over there. What else?
Starting point is 01:13:03 What else can we ask them about? Myr's just wanting to start a shit. No, I'm not. you are. I saw you have a little chippy over there. You have a little chippy. It's funny. You put everything in folders too when you?
Starting point is 01:13:17 Hell yes. Yeah. Oh, God. Folder guy. I want all my apps on the one, I want all my apps on one page. Right? So you don't want to scroll through to get something.
Starting point is 01:13:29 I need to see every app so I can see all the icons. And I can see what needs attention. And so, yeah, I got sports news, Maps and Weather. Maps and Weather. go together. Does the people, who splits theirs up? You're, you're an animal.
Starting point is 01:13:44 There's no way that goes together. Maps and weather go together. No, no. I don't put, I don't put anything in folders. Because when you're looking at them, you're looking at both of them are maps. Nope. I just quick poll. Who puts their maps and weather together?
Starting point is 01:13:56 Wait, wait. Who puts a map? Who? I don't. It's a unanimous thumbs. They're separate, but they're on the homepage, though. Alex. I'm like, yeah, I'm all folders.
Starting point is 01:14:05 I'm all folders. Okay. Do you put your sports and news together? I got too many sports apps. Sports and news to go together. Same app. Same folder. Sports is my news.
Starting point is 01:14:14 I don't need to see anything else. Right? Yeah. All right. I got music, social media, photography, video TV. So like I put my video and my TV stuff in the same. Yeah, same. So like I can go and you know, well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:31 Any editing for video, any kind of that stuff is in there with flow racing, right? Yeah. Shopping. Yeah. I got shopping. I got a shot. I feel a little weird having a shopping folder. Mine's food and shopping.
Starting point is 01:14:42 Honestly. I'm like, I should not be shopping, especially on my phone. Utilities. Yeah. Yeah. I've got a folder for my home. Okay. I do too, actually.
Starting point is 01:14:56 Just his home? Yeah, yeah. I got a hunting folder. Wow. I'm surprised you don't have one. I don't need a hunting folder. put all my hunting apps on the front page. I'll move contacts and things that don't matter above hunting off.
Starting point is 01:15:14 I've only got three apps in there. I've got an aviation folder. Okay. So when I'm in the air flying, no matter what plane I'm in, I can see some stuff. I got a boat folder. I don't. I got a cycling and health folder. All right.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Okay. Yeah. I don't make folders, but I do have one of them. I've got a health folder, but I've never opened it. I'm surprised that's not on the back side of the front. on right on the next phase. Gaming. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:15:43 Games. Everybody's got games. And then I got my two, Arles and Nicole. I got a folder for them, like for their school and all kinds of stuff. That's right. That's right.
Starting point is 01:15:50 And then I can. Go ahead and say it. The last folder I have is called Auto Trader. And it's got, it's got RV Trader, ATV Trader, Van Camper, Auto Trader, boat Trader. Classic, Classics on Auto Trader.
Starting point is 01:16:09 public auto auction, eBay motors, Craigslist, Cars.com, boats.com. And you've got to swipe that folder. Yeah. I,
Starting point is 01:16:18 dude, I love sitting around my phone and like seeing how cheap stuff is, like boats and cars and RVs and all kinds of stuff. And,
Starting point is 01:16:29 man, I see a lot of things that I'd love to buy but I never, I'm just a window shopper. Yeah. So it sounds like you are pretty up to date
Starting point is 01:16:36 with the whole phone thing. No. No. Not according to Mike. Oh, and you know what? Does, you know what, there's some stuff. Let's keep this going just a little bit longer. There's a couple of things that live
Starting point is 01:16:46 outside of the folders. Yeah, because you don't know where to put them. Occasionally there's an app that doesn't fit any of them. Do you go create a new folder for it or no? Here's how first off, the one thing I did want to ask is does anybody have a folder that they
Starting point is 01:17:02 would rather not share? Such as like I had the auto trader. Does anybody have a folder that we would find humorous? I have a folder that is just the singular phone app. Like, that's the only app. Because you didn't know where to put it. Because I, well, but it's the only app in there. What? I should just fix it. Yeah. What is the singular phone app? It's like, you know, to make phone calls. The green one. The one, this. He's talking about that. The, the, I'm just too lazy to change it. Why is that not down at the bottom? Right. I have, I have Strava down at the
Starting point is 01:17:36 bottom. Oh my God, you're using Strava more than actually phone calls. The purpose of the device. So, all right, that's funny. Anyone else? I have the useless shit, which is just like the Apple stuff that they make you, they can't delete. I just throw that all the way to the back and that's all I guess. That's in my utilities. I just feel backfilled the utilities with that. Yeah, I just got a photo call fun and then it's just the random stuff like that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:04 What? Oh, wrong answer is only. what is in Mike's fun folder. That's awesome. It's something that's something that's to do with his dentist, I'm sure. All right. It's thermostat. Thermostat. Actually, I didn't even know what's in my fun folder.
Starting point is 01:18:30 Some of these are I'm a little embarrassed. I don't know why that's so funny. I don't get it. What is that mean? It's a garage door. Opener app. No, that's not in there. Home Depot app.
Starting point is 01:18:46 It could be. 7-11 coupons over it. He's free slurpee. No, what's in my fun app. These don't make sense. It does not make sense. It's the lottery app. This one probably has his keynote app.
Starting point is 01:19:04 The keynote app. You've got to tell us, now. Well, I will if you'll shut up. I mean, you guys, I think you're more entertained by the things you want to be in there. Okay. Go. All right. One of them is pit boss grills. Yes. Yes. Fun. Gosh, that app is a blast. One of them is ancestry. Oh my gosh. It's even better than we thought. Yeah. I don't know why, but the books app is in there. And then also, because it has a lot to do with all the things, GarageBan. I didn't even know if GarageBan was even still on my phone.
Starting point is 01:19:47 Yeah, I didn't even know. And then for some reason, FaceTime is in there. Okay. The FaceTime app. You got apps just lost. That is a, that's the abandoned folder. You have apps that are just roaming freely around in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:03 It shouldn't be called fun. It should just be called like random. But that is random. But, uh. So we were going to talk about apps that aren't in folders. I've got apps that aren't in folders that are specifically... So at the very top is the calendar. Settings is next.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Notes and Safari. Then it's all folders. At the bottom, bottom, phone texting messages, FaceTime, Mail. If you do your phone any other way, we can't be friends. I'll stop that. I agree with that. No, I mean, I'm three.
Starting point is 01:20:39 those four, but come on. Like, calendar is down there. Top right. Top left. Top left. No, it's in the bottom. Mail is top left. I got calendar. Top left. I got FaceTime top left. That's why y'all are always like. I got two, I got two emails, Gmail and Outlook, so they're on the bottom. I got to be on the bottom.
Starting point is 01:20:55 Okay. There is one app that is out of the folder because it's important. All right. Does everybody have that app? I have all of them out of the folder. Damn. You're crazy. You're crazy you're madmean yeah i'm what does your house look like it's like it's a mess yeah it's like a
Starting point is 01:21:16 house yeah it's alleys it's exactly yeah stuff stacked to the ceiling you're talking about you've got all these folders on your main page on your first page yes so most i've got two folders on my main page but the rest are sitting out there's no other pages okay um but wait i thought y'all would find this kind of humorous go ahead i want to hear there is one app that is not in a folder because it is a very important app. That's the alarm plug. Does everybody, you have a Strava.
Starting point is 01:21:45 You know, you have Strava placed down in the bottom where everyone else in the world today has their phone. Yeah. So that's important to you, right? Don't, I want to guess it. All right, I have an app
Starting point is 01:21:56 that's out of the folder that's really, really important to me, especially over the last several weeks that I need to access. I want it out of the folder. I don't want to click, I don't want extra clicks to get to this. I'm going to guess music.
Starting point is 01:22:10 Apple music. Oh, no, your way off. Okay. This has something to do with y'all. It's the NASCAR app. Nope. Damn. YouTube.
Starting point is 01:22:18 No. Come on. I said alarm clock first. It has to do with us. With us? Yeah. Teams. Stop already.
Starting point is 01:22:29 What have we been working on? Oh. Yes. Podcast. It's the docs at for the script for becoming Earnhardt. Gotcha. Yeah. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:22:40 right there on the front, man. Yeah, yeah, I believe that. Now, when becoming Earnhardt's over, does Docs get moved on out? I'll probably put it in utilities to hide until we start the next season. That makes sense. There you go.
Starting point is 01:22:56 Hey, all right, now we can end it. Yeah, let's end it. God, he's going to wait. Tim's texted me like 15 minutes ago, like, hey, one more. This was the one. Everybody, that was fun. Good job.
Starting point is 01:23:07 Andrew, good questions, everybody, and we had a lot of fun talking about our phones. So more fun than we should. All right, we want to introduce a new segment to the Dale Jr. download. It's going to be called the Flying Lap. That's right, and this Flying Lap is presented by Birch Gold Group. You text Dale Jr. to 9-8-98 to get a free info kit and also have a conversation with a Birch Medal Specialist. Flying Lap, let's go. A city block in less than a second.
Starting point is 01:23:49 Basically, we're going to play some clips of our other Dirtymo Media podcasts, and we're going to react to them. So, Alex, you've got a couple here today. Let's go. Yes, I do. Both Denny and DBC, want to comment on Brad Keselowski's another red flag donut. Let's see what. So we're both getting Denny and DBC's reaction to Brackzalski,
Starting point is 01:24:17 doing donuts under the red flag of Saturday night's Daytona race, and let's hear. Yep, here's Denny. It's a red flag. Isn't he supposed to be stopped? That's why I'm wondering. Are you even allowed to... I didn't think so. You're not supposed to be moving. Which is why they even say, they don't even let you catch up to the field.
Starting point is 01:24:36 So did they just kind of pay, he might be on fire, so we're going to let this one go? But certainly, by the letter of the law, Kazowski shouldn't have been moving. So what they'll do is even when they throw a red flag, wherever you are, you stop. It's like, you ever seen sprint car races, right? Wherever they're at, the red comes out, you hit the brakes and you stop in your position where you're at. So did anyone actually put out the fire or did it just die? It just died on its own head. So many donuts.
Starting point is 01:25:08 Yeah, stop dropping roll in... Talladega nights. Effectively. All right. Well, it was a winning move for RFK. So you can't hate on that. And here is DBC. you were inadvertently working on your car under red by moving it.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Well, T.J.A. never worked on a car. But yes. I actually have worked on a car a lot. But to put the fire out, you were moving. Yeah, but let me ask you this. Under red flagger, you allowed to move. Chris Rice. No, you're not. So my point being was right here is exactly what you're saying, right? You're not supposed to move.
Starting point is 01:25:46 You can't drive to pit road. They hold you a lap. So when he was literally getting a competitive advantage, that's where it should have come out, right? So it should have burned the spark plug wires up. That's not, it should be sitting still. Red flag, you can't work on him. Brad was working on his car. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:26:02 That's where I was like, what is going on? We thought he was trying to be funny. Being funny would have still been to the tail of the field, whatever they do for the red flag, whatever you get caught for if you're working on your car. All right, so my reaction is this. I hear their points. They have valid points, but I don't really, I don't care.
Starting point is 01:26:21 You know, it is not exactly entirely true that you are supposed to remain stopped under a red flag. During red flags, particularly at tracks where we use a lot of braking, we will fire our engines up and roll forward so that the brake pad and the rotor aren't sitting in the same spot all the time. so the brake rotor can, you know, you can roll the rotor forward and get it, you know, allow it to cool in that area. And then the brake pad temperature will be on, we'll be in a new area of the rotor. And we keep, well, as we're sitting under red, we move our cars forward back, forward, back over and over, right?
Starting point is 01:27:06 Are they to outlaw that now? Is that okay? But this is not. Where is the line? There's really no line. Of course, they don't want you driving to pit road and fueling your car or getting out, much as Sterling Marlin did and pulling on the fender. But Brad was on fire, right?
Starting point is 01:27:22 If Brad's on fire, we've seen how these cars can, can, the intensity of those fires can grow, right? Is Brad just to sit still and allow the fire to happen? No. So he's going to do these donuts to get a little air moving through the rocker box or whatever's going on to try to get the fire to go out, and he did. So, yeah, we'll crank our engines and cycle the water in those to get them to cool down.
Starting point is 01:27:48 We will crank the car and put it in gear and roll forward so that the rotors don't cook on one particular part. And the other thing, too, this was a situation where all the teams were trying to do everything they could to save fuel and manage gas and try to stay on pit road as minimal amount as possible at the last stop to be able to take as little amount of fuel as possible. Well, he was giving everybody a competitive advantage there
Starting point is 01:28:15 by burning fuel running in circles, right? He's cranked his car up and he's driving around in circles. If NASCAR had reacted in the moment and said he needs to go to the rear, I would have been fine with that too. I would have not had a problem if they had reacted in the moment and said, we're glad the fires out, Brad. That was probably a good thing to do because you get to continue to race, but you're going to have to drop to the back.
Starting point is 01:28:45 I'd have been fine. with that. But they didn't react. And so all of the all of the conversation afterwards or debate about it being wrong or this should happen, that should happen, I don't care about it. Does that make any sense? Yeah. Yeah. Makes sense. What do you think, Mike? I guess, I mean, you've said your answer, so I'm assuming that even the fact
Starting point is 01:29:09 that Brad pushed the winner of the race to the win and therefore finished second himself doesn't doesn't change your opinion at all, huh? No. Okay. Yeah, I mean, that I can assume based off of your position on it. I guess that's where they, when you say they have valid points, that's one of the factors that makes it valid. So that, to me, that's such, such flawed logic if those guys, right, would have never cared if he ran 15th?
Starting point is 01:29:40 I'm not, I don't think I could say that that they wouldn't care. I think they would care. I just don't know that it would be a topic. It wouldn't land in the show sheets and the topics of conversation. It wouldn't have been in the front of everybody's head if he finished 15th because how could it, right? But I don't think that that means they don't care. I mean, would it have mattered and made these shows if he would have ran 15th? No.
Starting point is 01:30:03 But he ran second, so it matters. No. I don't think that whether it matters on whether somebody can work on their car under Red Flag and whether it would make a podcast on Dirty Mo Media are the same thing. I don't think those are mutually exclusive topics. I do think it matters. I think it matters for drivers, especially if you're Denny Hamlin or if you're Chris Rice, on what you can do moving forward.
Starting point is 01:30:26 When his car is on fire, can he do donuts until it's out? And, you know, I think that goes back to just everybody being aware of what the rules are. I think what the rule will, I think NASCAR will tell you, so they don't need to worry. All right, Denny and Doorbop Clear, they ain't got to worry. NASCAR is going to let them know how they feel about the circles.
Starting point is 01:30:51 But if their car catches on fire, their ass is going to do something to not be on fire. I will promise you that. They'll drive in circles or whatever they need to do, illegal or not. They're going to do whatever they can
Starting point is 01:31:04 to avoid the car burning down. Right. That's just what Brad was doing. Logic. And so for anything, for anybody to be like, you know, you know, if NASCAR could have reacted, that would have been fine, wouldn't have bothered me,
Starting point is 01:31:20 but they didn't react, and it didn't, nothing happened. Nothing, so, and you can't change it. You can't go back and change it. And NASCAR's damn sure going to tell you what the deal is going forward, what they expect. And maybe they'll tell us next time you're going to the back, next time you're, you know, you got a drive-through, whatever, right? Or we don't care.
Starting point is 01:31:40 If your car case is on fire, put it out. out. Who knows what they'll say, but I'm sure they'll address it. But I don't have a problem with it. I never walked out of there going, that was wrong. I never walked. I never, I mean, we saw it, but we didn't know exactly what was going on. And when we learned what happened, we're like, oh, okay, that was pretty damn smart.
Starting point is 01:32:03 Well, look, again, I do agree with you on that point that if it's on fire, you do something to put it out and don't even care about what the rules are. Right. I'm with you on it. All right. Yeah, that's good stuff, man. I like this. So I think, you know, we should definitely be in the Tuesday show.
Starting point is 01:32:19 Those shows fire off on Monday. We'll use some clips and find some things that they're debating that we want to get in on on conversation. The Flying Laugh will be back. It's a great part of the show presented by Birch Gold. All right, it's time for the white flag. Something that we used to do on the show a while back, and we're bringing it back.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Junior Motors Sports, just, St. Agar held off Sheldon Creed by 0.005 seconds to win the Xfinity Series race at Daytona. That's now two wins in a row and three of the last five for junior motorsports. Carson Quappell came back to win in the Cars Tour Late Model Stock Race at Wake County Speedway. He didn't qualify real well, but ended up getting the win down there at Wake County. In my own happenings, I'm excited about this. The second children's book, Buster gets back on track, is currently available for pre-order at all major retailers.
Starting point is 01:33:25 More information can be found at Dell Jr.com slash buster. I'll be going to do some media soon around the book, and so you may be seeing me on your television or your smartphone tablet talking about it. You can go to New York? I am going to New York. Good for you. I've heard that I might be doing that hot ones. podcast with the wings.
Starting point is 01:33:48 I love that show on YouTube. I heard I might be doing that. So I hope that's true. Also, if you haven't heard, there's a new NASCAR docu series coming out on Netflix. They're recording it and getting information on all that now. They've started. It'll basically encompass the playoffs of this year, and it's going to come
Starting point is 01:34:07 out at the lead to next season. I'm an executive producer and putting some work in on this project and we're really, really excited about it. I think the whole industry is pumped about this. And so, yeah, keep your ears open for more information about the NASCAR docu series coming from Netflix. And for the Dale Jr. Foundation, the Driven to Give Glove Program auction is back for 2023.
Starting point is 01:34:39 It's one of the largest lineups of participating drivers in the program's 10-year history. So drivers in all series are wearing the skull gloves and those will get signed by the driver and myself and we will put them up for auction. A total of 60 NASCAR Cup and Xfinity Series drivers are partaking this year at Bristol during the race weekend. Following the event, as I said, we'll sign them and there'll be the race worn gloves. They'll be auctioned off to raise awareness and funds for the Dale and A&A. E. E. Earnhardt Fund at the nationwide children's hospital. And that fund has already raised millions of dollars.
Starting point is 01:35:22 And it goes, that money goes directly to research at the nationwide children's hospital. So I can promise you every dollar that we get there is doing some amazing things. It's fantastic. The internet auction for that will begin on Friday, September 15th at 1130 a.m. Eastern. and it will continue through Monday, September the 18th, at 11 p.m. Eastern via pristine auctions. So September to 15th on Friday, it goes live at 1130 in the morning. And it will run through Monday the 18th of September until 11 p.m.
Starting point is 01:35:59 Prestine Auctions, pristine auctions. 30-mo Media. We got a live show we're doing in Vegas. You won't want to miss that. Mike and I will be there. And it's going to be our biggest audience yet that we'll do. do a live show in front of pretty nervous, pretty excited at the same time. We're also going to have the door bumper clear guys coming along.
Starting point is 01:36:18 It's going to be a little bit of a showcase of Dirty Mo Media. Get your tickets to come see Dirty Mo Live, Dale Jr. and Friends on Friday, October the 13th at Westgate, Las Vegas Resorts and Casino. Check out Dirty Mo Media's social handles for links to buy tickets. You can call 888785 1531 to see if you. you qualify for a VIP experience. The VIP package. The VVIP.
Starting point is 01:36:48 What the hell is that? Very, very important. The very, very important package. The VVIP packages are almost sold out already. Yeah. All right. So don't wait. Don't wait.
Starting point is 01:37:02 They're almost sold out. All right. So you heard us play clips from actions detrimental and door bump are clear earlier. both of those podcasts are already out. So be sure to catch those for more information about this past weekend at Daytona and everything else going on. We've got the final regular volume of Becoming Earnhardt coming out tomorrow. And then our Thursday show is the final episode of Becoming Earnhardt. It's a bit of a wrap-up show and a roundtable.
Starting point is 01:37:32 And we're going to learn more about the 1979 season and it's cast of characters. And then we look forward to what's next. with Becoming Earnhardt. It's going to be a lot of fun. Let us know if you want us to keep this going. I think we already know the answer to that. So the 1980 season is on the table. I really enjoyed working on it,
Starting point is 01:37:51 but I think we can do an even better job in season two to bring you even better content of Becoming Earnhardt. Also tomorrow, Speed Street with Connor Daly and Joey Molinero will drop. And then the Dirty Mo Doe Crew will be back in action on Thursday to preview the Darlington Race. You won't want to miss that. Let's get to a couple of reviews from our Apple reviews. Zombie Killer 2000.
Starting point is 01:38:19 This came from the Donnie Allison interview, and he stayed apparently for becoming Earnhardt. Dale's podcast has taken me back to being a 13-year-old kid sitting on the backstretch at Martinsville with all Dell Senior fans. It reminded me of what made me love NASCAR. The interviews he conducts their first class in the series on the 1979 season is Can't Miss. I love the effort and research the team. put into all the little details.
Starting point is 01:38:43 The MRN calls make it come alive like it was just happening today. They love the little details, Mike. Yeah, I mean, listen, I'm with them. Well done, Zomkiller. A.T. Controller says, episode 481, that's our road trip back from Martinsville, was the best episode I've heard. Great job. Your audio guys did.
Starting point is 01:39:02 And it put me right in the middle of the front seat. And I truly felt like I'm right there, riding down the road with you guys to Martin'sville. It sounded like I was along for the ride. these casual conversations between you guys and they're the best. That was fine. So, yeah, you know, we got in the car and we just driving down the road and it was a dumb idea of mine to do a podcast on, you know, in the car.
Starting point is 01:39:23 And it worked. Yeah, it might have started off dumb, but it ended up being smart. Well done. By the way, on that trip, you and I both left something at the test. I'm proud to say that Chad McCombie came through for both of us, your skeleton gloves. They're back. They're back. I left my gloves in the race car, the MX-5.
Starting point is 01:39:39 My Alabama coffee mug, which he texted and said, that thing looks like it's been through a couple wars. And I'm like, yeah, it's very, very special to me. You made sure that he needed to get that return to you. Right. So thank you, Chad McCombie. All right. Well, that's the white flag, and that's the end of the show. We appreciate everybody tuning in.
Starting point is 01:39:56 It's Tuesday, August 29, 2003, and we hope you have a great day. We'll see you tomorrow for Becoming Earnhardt, Episode 8. Check out Dirtymo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram. I'm not so.

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