The Dale Jr. Download - 526 - COTA’s One Flaw and Dale’s “Old Man” Complaints

Episode Date: March 26, 2024

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the Bojangles Studio for another edition of Dirty Air. All three of NASCAR’s top series were in Austin, Texas this past weekend to compete at the Circuit of the Americas, and there was a lot to unpack: Roaming scooter gangs Connor Zilisch’s eventful NASCAR debut What caused Marco Andretti’s rear end failure?  Austin Hill vs. SVG What NASCAR milestones are tweet-worthy?  Cup race winner William Byron calls in It’s time to bring the curbing back at COTA We need to revisit the NextGen road course package During the Ask Jr. segment of the episode, listeners sent in questions regarding: Dreaming about racing Weirdest items every autographed Tattoos The best neighbor Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download here in the Bojangles studio. We're going to be recapping everything that happened this past weekend at Coda in all three NASCAR series and the winner of the cup race, William Byron's calling in. Let's get going. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. Who's the new guy? In the studio for Dirty Air. Hallelujah. We got a big week for you here.

What a happy accident. There are some voices on the show. show that you're going to hear. Andrew, also Dalton, driving into a rager. All right, everybody, a pretty exciting weekend or, well, a lot going on throughout the weekend in Kota with the truck race, Xfinity race, and the Cup race as well. A lot of kind of different races happening. Not, you know, not everything that happened on Saturday followed through into the Cup race.

The Cup race was quite different. We're going to go over all of that. And William Byron, I said, is going to call in later in about 45 minutes or so. Everybody have a good weekend. It was good weekend. Yeah. All right. You?

Yeah, I did. I'm getting a camper ready. So I don't know if you've been following along on social media. I got, I'm selling my bus. Kind of been wanting to do that for about three years. It's a bus I bought 10 years ago. when I was a full-time cup racer. But it doesn't work with our kids,

and it's overkill a little bit. So probably one of the worst financial decisions, I think I've ever made. I don't know if I want to say that publicly. I might hurt some feelings at the bus company, but man, buying a bus is the thing, the amount of depreciation, and as soon as you drive that thing off the lot is crazy.

But that's with anything on wheels. Yeah. So I'm selling it. Finally, I'm ready. I've been wanting to do that. I'm glad. and I got a fifth wheel from Camping World, which I've been wanting to do that for a while.

And I've been kind of going through all these ideas on where I wanted to land on what to get, and we got a fifth wheel. It's called a Cougar. Perfect name. Nice. We've been kind of getting, you know, putting sheets on beds and getting dishes and all of the things, right?

Getting it ready. It's got the little bunkhouse in the back for the girls. Oh, they're going to love it. Yeah. Dang. It's going to Texas. for Easter. And then, you know, hopefully in a couple more weeks,

it might be going to a late-mile stock race, but more on that later. But I've been getting this camper ready and I'm excited about it. The, it's a Keystone, Keystone Cougar, 36 foot. It's pretty cool. It's fun, man. I bought an old used duly, 3,500 to pull it, has 30,000 miles on it.

and man you always get nervous when you're buying a used car like why do they turn it in something wrong with this thing what do I not know about what do I not know 35,000 miles not that much 30 30 30 yeah even better that's pretty good yeah for a duly it's going to be pulling a fifth wheel all around it's not a lot of miles

so I don't know why I got turned back in hopefully no big reason but yeah I'm looking forward to that that's going to be quite a I think Amy and the kids kids, Amy's kind of fired up about it. Going to these, you know, we got a little list, little list of campgrounds started already that we kind of could see ourselves going to.

What has you excited so far? Which, what? Which one? Oh, I mean, campgrounds are campgrounds, man. I don't know nothing about them. As far as I'm concerned, there's camping spots, to do. That's the extent of my knowledge.

Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So you're like around here or like? All over the country. Okay. Yeah. Nowhere

nowhere specific. I mean, I can go into detail. You really want to do that? We don't have to if you don't want to. You're genuinely curious? I am genuinely curious. Really?

Yeah, I've got buddies who enjoy camping all over the country. Got you, okay. Yeah. Do you ask them what some of their camping spots, their favorite camping? I do,

because I've always wanted to camp, but I just haven't, you know, fully pulled the trigger on. I've been a few times, but I enjoyed the few times I went. Yeah. I'm always on the lookout. I'm curious,

is how much fun camping really is, right? You pull the thing in, you park it. You got all the stuff, right? You've prepared this thing and got all the things to just live, right? Food and clothes and all that. And then you got some like rinky dink camping toys, ring toss or what the hell ever.

You got these silly camping toys that only people play when they camp. Exactly. So the wife's throwing a couple of them in there. And because, I mean, I never, it's like, larger size connect 4. You remember Connect 4 on the table, the little one, right? Like just a bigger version of that. It's a bigger version of that.

Like the bigger version of, what's it called? Jenga. Jenga. All those games. You never see any of this stuff until it's like, we've got a fifth wheel. We've got to have all these games. And so I guess camping is that, you know, playing those games.

Just, playing those games. Oversized board games. for some reason. Yeah. And sitting around a fire, right? That's my favorite thing to do. That I can get behind. The key is a good chair.

You need to get yourself a good sitting down on a fire chair. All right. That's damn, man. All right. I grew up camping, so I got you. Great point. You grew up camping, all right? I grew up camping, yeah.

See, I, I've been around a lot of chairs, man. That is, yeah. All right. And I've seen people in their camping chairs. There's some comfortable ones out there. Good ones. But I don't know if I won't. So the campus chairs have kind of went toward this sort of sitting low,

relaxed, laid back. Like, almost like a beach chair. Yeah. Kind of, yeah. Sings at the seat. I have a hard time getting away from the old traditional 1980s folder. Yes. I agree.

I want like a tight, like, seat. I don't want to sink down. I don't either. I don't like to sit low, knees up. Yeah, no. Try to hard to get in and out of. It's hard to get out. Yeah.

Yeah. And I love the nostalgia of the old folder. Yeah. Man. Also packs way easier, too. Does it? Yeah. Folds up a little bit.

Because if you think about the one that sits low, you got to put it back in the bag to make it really... Because in the bag, but it's easier, I think it stores better. Yeah. I mean, hit or miss. Yeah. But, I mean, it's certainly more comfortable than the old original folder. But damn, man, you know, the, I can't...

My nostalgia, you know, has me in all kinds of uncomfortable situations. I can't help it. I'm with it. Got that going on, excited about that. Something that me and Andrew been going back and forth, old man, is the scooter gang. Yeah, I was wondering

if you're going to bring this out. This is hilarious. So, all right, man. You follow Tyler Reddick. If you follow Tyler Reddick on social media, you are guaranteed to get a scooter shoe combo post every week.

What's up, Coda? I'm scooting at Phoenix. You know what I mean? I don't know. They must have a scooter deal. It's obvious there must be a scooter deal, but there's, you don't ever see, like, a brand name or a tag or anything, so maybe he does get a scooter. I think it's the love of the game. You think it's just the love of scooters?

Yeah. I got these things. They're piled up everywhere. I got two or three at the house. The girls are playing with. We got one or two over at the other place. I mean, these, you know, but I never have the urge to hop on one and take off. No.

But apparently they do the track walks. You know, they go to Phoenix every week. Go to all these racetracks in there. I went to, you know, we're in Nashville a couple last year, I think even. And they come on riding by on them little scooters. And Redick does it quite a bit. He likes to get out, look at the racetrack, just sort of get, you know, familiar, see anything new or whatever, which I get.

I mean, I think that's really smart to get out on the racetrack. I saw some pictures of Brack Zalowski and Chris Busher out there. Chris Busher had a scooter. Brad did not. So Brad's old school. Not a scooter guy, right? Cale, David. None of them guys.

They're not riding scooters. But now, man, you go, if you follow Redick and the other, and Denny, all the 2311 guys, man. It's a scooter game. Yeah. They're on the scooters. And then you got Kurt Bush on his scooter. he's looked like it was the property of the Austin, Texas. Like he came from the city.

He rode straight from the hotel. He had to rent it. It looked like he was paying for that one, by the hour. But I'm fascinated by this. I'm careful to use any descriptions such as disappointed or, because I don't want to overstate it. The guys are out on scooters. It's okay.

But, you know, these are gladiators going out to do battle. And they're going to, you know, They're doing something incredibly hard and unique, and they're the best in the world, and no one else can do it. Denny says it in the Netflix. Sure. You know, I can, I might can birdie a hole that some of the pro golfers burdy. I might, you know, can hit the three-point shot that the NBA guys can hit,

but none of them can get in my car and match my laps. None of them can do what I do. Nobody can, right? And so, I don't want to see them all scooters, man. I don't know. I don't want to see them on. I don't know how to say it, not be an ass-h. Sorry.

I feel like I complain too much. No. Y'all don't get that vibe. It's just the way you see the world. Yeah. It's just about particular things. That's the other part. I'm like, am I turning into a fucking old man?

No. Because I'm like triggered by a scooter guys. I don't like the scooter. These damn kids these days. Right? Am I screaming? Old man screaming in the cloud here? Is that what I've become?

do you complain about this to Amy she's just like all right and I know better she ain't going on listen to that just come here and talk about it we're actually not even recording this is just a way for you thing I know right yeah we're not even recording off steam

yeah Dale leads his hour to just you know talking to him like and another thing be watching them man Tyler Reddick the sneaker shoe combo is something like there's there's some sort of formula there that they're working on. Every week, man.

Yeah. It's the shoe, scooter, combo post. The sneaker scooter, yeah. Yeah, and it's on both Instagram and Twitter. Did you see the group picture of all of them together? It looks like the, you know, the first day that their parents let them go to school by themselves. They were so proud. Yeah.

They were all very proud of the scooters. That's right. That's like, yeah, it looked like, yeah, they were like going, they're graduating from middle school to high school. Right. Our first day of junior high. What? So true. No, it was just, because this is good.

What made me laugh is like, this has been going on for a few weeks. This is the first time we've talked about it. Me and him's been. We've been talking about it. So before Bristol, I go to Redick, and he actually flags me down because he's like, what the hell is wrong with your hair? And I'm like, okay, I'm going to ask you about the scooters here. And he said they don't allow motorized vehicles, so that's the fastest way he can get around the track. Yeah.

It's better than a bike? I mean, I guess you could bike. Yeah. Yeah, that's worse to me. I mean, you'd be upgrading to high school from there? Yeah. That a scooter? Why is a bike worse?

I just, I can't imagine just seeing someone just like carve through the garage and a bike. I think the scooter is a little better. What about skateboard? Oh, skateboard's cool. What about one of those one tire things? Oh, the one wheel thing? That's motorized. I kind of like those.

Oh, it's electric. I mean, I'm always pro Morgan Shepherd rollerblading. You telling me, Kurt Bush's scooter ain't electric. Did you see the damn? Do you see that thing? as electric. They're not kick a scooter in this thing, no. They got to be electric. No, the ones that Tyler Reddick. They can't be electric.

They're really. Motorized in electric is not the same thing. I feel like it's the same thing. Don't you do that. No, not, especially in a world where you know, you have all these fans that are scared of racing going toward electric cars, man. You can't say

they're the same. They are not the same. One makes noises and one doesn't. I'm just saying like if NASCAR sees that and they're like, okay, you're clearly like you're not scooting. Look, man. If somebody pulls up on me

on my electric scooter some official and says you can't take that out there it's motorized. I'm gonna tell them to kick rocks. You gotta bring that thing through tech. I'm gonna kick rocks and I'm gonna push

match your trigger and I'm rolling on. I'm gonna burn some rubber my little electric scooter. Now I'm part of the scooter gang. Yeah. What the hell happened here? Somehow you became

anti-scooter. on the scooter. It's all about that rebel, man. I am turning into the old man. You're not going to tell me. All right, so if you're going to have in your kitchen soon, like, farm the table, like one of those signs. Yes. Yes, yes. You're going to turn into that guy. Yes, did you see? I was messing with Kenny Wallace on his, on the ladder. Yes, the ladder. I wanted to ask you. You keep cozy ladder? You cracked me up because you were like, I'm going to bring in the ladder from the garage

and to set it on the side. I wanted to, yeah, I was going to bring my ladder in. It's got paint and all kinds of crap on it. Set it up and set it up a set of the TV and hang blankets on it. Because Kitty takes this picture of the race on his TV. And besides it's a ladder, I didn't, see, I'm an idiot, man. I didn't fucking put it together. I wasn't like, oh, that's a blanket ladder.

Right. Oh, yeah. I don't think that's that common. I went and looked at it and I'm like, it's fucking ladder, man. It says, keep cozy on it. It's just by itself. Keep cozy.

What's the hell? None of that has anything to do with anything. It's extremely close to the TV too. I mean, it's close. But it's, and I was like, the ladder to nowhere. And it's, keep cozy. Yeah.

I mean, I've seen people hang signs in their house that say country things, but a ladder? Yeah. So, but then somebody. and somebody in the comments is like, hey, you dumb, this is a rack for for blankets. Then I felt like an idiot.

But there were any blankets on it. No. So, Kenny posted an update too. Do you see he posted an update too? He did. He like got up and put blankets on it. Yes, he got up and put the blankets on. Good for Kenny. I don't know.

Stay cozy, Ken. I can't. I feel like, man, it's like social media and all these things are just turning me into this guy that's just like picking everything apart. You and your scooters and you and your lap. matter um you know i got to sprinkle in some positivity here soon you're doing it the right way because you're on a podcast so then you can just say it's a take yeah del's got a take on everything well all right

we had one bad take oh yeah well i don't know i mean the jury may be still out but first off i want to go through the truck truck race um let's talk about that a little bit um Connor Zillich and, you know, sets a new track record, right? Qualifies on the pole, well clear of the rest of the field. There's this sort of, you know, he's going to be driving for junior motor sports. He's driving everything. Kid drives Transam, trucks, bush cars. I say Bush still.

But, you know, you get it. He drives a lot of stuff. He's going to run the cars tour. He's driving super late models and all kinds of things. Arka. And so he's doing it all. And, what, is 17 still? Yep.

So it's insane. This kid, This kid has the runway to become a multi-time NASCAR Cup champion. The runway is right there in front of him. Not many people are getting all of this experience at this age, right? If everything goes well and he keeps his head on straight, massive success and potential ahead. But he comes into this truck race, does really well and qualifying.

they interview Kyle Larson. Oh man, it's going to destroy the field. Nothing happens. Somebody don't run through him. He's killing him. And he goes out there in the first corner and misses turn one, right? As soon as it happens, I'm like, all right, you know, doesn't. He didn't, he overestimated the level of grip in the breaking zone there, coming up the hill.

Okay. He kept coming back and kept having more and more mistakes. had to change the sway bar? Really? Because he had the flat, drug the sway bar arm off, and probably had to come in and change the tire, if not change the sway bar. That's pretty remarkable.

And only lost one lap too, which is really. Like Coda. Yeah, Cota's a long racetrack. He gets the free pass. He spins in turn 12 after getting... Did he get turned around by Tyler? Yeah, he got dumped. He got dumped.

So not a fuck up on his part, right? And the sway bar arm, you know, hey, he slides the tire. That's the mistake in lap one, lap two, the sway bar. That's just a repercussion from the flat tire. All right, he gets a pass-through penalty for cutting turn four, which everyone else did. So I can't give him a hard time for that.

Passes the 98 for second and made contact with him, and then he has a tire rub, right, lap 29. Pass-through penalty for cutting the course in turn three when he was in fourth place on lap 35. And it ended up, after all of that, finishing forth, passing 54 trucks. 57. 57, sorry. And so when you look at that, what do you see?

Do you see somebody who's, I'm on the fence about how hard to be on him about all of those mistakes, right? We had a phone call the other day, me and you, Andrew, and I was like, you know, it just seemed like he just kept screwing up over and over and over. but when you look at the list of things, it's like, well, a lot of this seems racing related. Yeah, it's racing related. There was only one thing that kind of screwed him up, and that was the term one.

A lap one. Yeah, happened. Yeah, happens to the best of us. So I guess I'm going to chill out. You're going to change your mind. Yeah, change your mind. So is it an impressive drive then, all that and finishing fourth? He's impressive.

His speed, especially on road courses. The jury is out on his ability. and talent on ovals. Look, Connor has had success on ovals. It's not like we don't know he can't race an oval. But when I think his, you know, his experience on road courses and all the types of things that he's been doing at a young age, obviously he's going to serve him well when he runs these races,

the remainder of the year. But when he goes to, you know, when he kind of gets thrown into the muck of an, of an, of a, of a, of a, infinity race at Dover, right? Mm-hmm. Right. Yeah, he's going to normalize a little bit. But,

dude could come out there and kick everybody's ass. I think he'll be in good stuff. He's going to drive our, I mentioned it, he's going to drive our stuff this year. Connor Zilich, man, he's like, Connor Zillich is like that comet that is out at the edge of the solar system that's supposed to come by Earth, right?

In a few years. We know when it's coming and we're all going to be standing outside looking in the sky waiting on it. That's Connor Zilich in my mind. Could be his nickname. Yeah, the comet. The comet. I like Connor, the comet. That's pretty good.

I just feel like that if everything goes right, this kid, we're going to be talking about him a lot this year and beyond. Marco Andretti had the entire rear axle come out of his car. Yeah, we saw some photos Clean break right in front of the Right behind the spring buckets Right in front of the U-bolt mounts Where the housing kind of clamps To the trailing arms

A clean break When I see this two things come to mind They're either, there's some trickery So they're doing something to the trailing arms Or the rear something back there To try to improve forward drive Or he will hop the crap out of this car or truck right so call i called into nascar yesterday and talked to a few people and there seems to be

from what you know from at this point yesterday there was no trickery like looking at it it's like it looks all straight everything's bolted in there right everything's tight um and apparently there was a failure of the track bar mount first like a high i'm on the track bar or something broke first there was some people that saw the rear and moving back and forth before it actually comes out the truck. And so who knows the chain of events that happen

you know, maybe the drive shaft, maybe the trailing arms are moving back and forth so much it, you know, breaks the yoke of the drive shafts or something like that. The drive shaft comes, comes out, hits the ground and and pull and twist the rear end. Who knows, right? But

this thing went through forces that we've hardly, we never see. We've never seen. We've never see trailing arms dual trailing arm, breaking half and the whole rear end. That rear and housing, whatever went on there, it went through some forces that

our cars never see. And so, you know, unless they're flipping down the damn front straight away at Daytona or something like that. It's just driving around on four tires. We've never seen ripped the rear end out straight out of a car or a truck.

I was testing one time. My very first time at Watkins Glen 1998, getting ready for the Xfinity race in the A.C. Delco car. And I'm coming down into the breaking zone of turn six.

And it's a left-hander right before the final turn, coming on the front straightaway. We called it turn six back then, but I don't know what they, it's 10 or 11 now. But I wheel hopped, really, really bad. So I got, so will hopping

happens when you try to get downshift into gear too soon. And you're using engine braking, so the revs of the motor. So you get into the downshift and it goes, wah! And you're getting too much engine braking instead of using the actual brakes and the brake pedal to slow the car down. So I get into downshift into third or second too quickly. And it's the revs are too much for the speed that the car is going and it starts hopping

the rear tires. They literally start hopping down the racetrack. And it can bounce like very violently. like a basketball. So I wheel hopped it real bad. I think I knocked it out of gear with my hand that stops the wheel hop, come on coast in and get into the garage.

And the guys are looking into the car. I get out and they're like, man, you've done something. There's grease pouring out of the rear end of the car. And so what I'd done is a nine-inch Ford rear end, which is the same thing they run these days. and the gear for the gear for the rear end bolts into the front it's a front loaded nine inch forward rear end and when i wheel hopped it it took that gear in the rear end housing and and twisted it it back and forth like this and pulled the rear end gear off of the rear end housing

stripped and bowed and flexed and bent all of the bolts that hold that gear on and so the gear separated from the rear end housing and the grease just dumped out. I think at Homestead in 1999 we won the championship but we broke in the race so we're running top five in the race come to pit road to try to make a pit stop and we'll hopped on the pit road and broke the rear end. Dang. Broke something in the drive line doing it that way but that's what when I see that happen in that truck race that's the only thing I can think of is Marco is downshifting and using the engine braking, probably downshifting too early, and wheel hopping a lot. And maybe did some things in practice also that created some damage, you know,

that sort of continued to worsen as he went on into the race. I don't know. I mean, he may call me or text me and go, I didn't will hop the damn thing, but I don't believe it. There's no way that rear end that come out of there. If there's no trickery, it had to been like some pretty severe wheel hop somewhere. You have them long, long straightaways, and he gets that thing wheel hopping and it can't stop and he don't knock it out of gear and it's wheel hopping like a football, two football fields. You're going to break.

Yeah. Anyhow, that was just crazy. NASCAR's saying they're going to call me back if they learn anything about that, and they don't want that to ever happen again. But let's move on to the Xfinity race. One shout out for the Xfinity race before we get down deep into it. I want to give Austin Green props for a great result in his first Xfinity race. This is David Green's son.

I know that I know Mark, David, and Jeff Green really well. Great friends with all of them. They want, you know, David wants so badly for Austin to get an opportunity to be a racer. I think if you're a NASCAR fan, you have to love this story about Austin and carrying on, you know, the tradition of their family. and so congratulations to Austin Green on its first top 10 finish, seventh place. Everybody saw Parker Clingerman and Sage Caream getting into it on pit road after the race. The ECR guy.

Yeah, I agree with you. Come on, man. That was so weird. Yeah. And he kept moving back and forth. Like he's like, what do you do it? Let him talk. They were just talking.

Yeah, I don't get that. Until it, you know, he started that before he even really kind of got a chance to gauge whether Sage was going to be physical. Right. That's weird. Like, he's been waiting to that moment. Yeah. I mean, look, props to him for trying to keep it all civil, but they were just going to talk. I don't see why you had to get in the way.

And listen, if it, if they end up throwing hands and like. The guy's in his way and Sage is just like trying to talk to. Like, Parker, I can't see around this big junk. Probably why they were yelling. I can't see around this big jughead in front of me. Can we have a conversation? And he kept moving, and the guys, like, dancing with him. That was annoying.

All right. ECR guy. Hey, I mean, at least turn around and look at sage and be like, you know, let's keep it civil. Right. Right. Right. And, but dang. Is that just a crew member's duty to protect their driver?

Like, because I feel like you see that a lot of other instances where, these crew guys just... I don't want Sage to... I mean, I'm not... I'm not hoping Sage just walks up and knocks Parker across the chin. I'm not...

That's not what... If Sage wanted to do that, I would certainly want somebody to step in and stop it. Right. But that was... Sage is just like, hey!

And the guy's like... And he's got its back to him. Yeah. It's just a weird thing. Yeah, I'm with you. Kind of looked weird to me. Yeah. Austin Hill.

So Austin Hill, listen, first off, I got to give the guy some credit. You know, he's sitting there with a chance to win this race against SVG and drove a great race. Austin Hill is good. Talented. Yeah. You know, he's won a lot of Super Speedway races. and when you do that, as I should know,

you get, you know, stereotyped. It's all you can do. That's all you're good at. Right? But he's good. He can drive and be fast anywhere. And his racecraft is actually, when I say is racecraft,

I want to be careful. His ability to start the race, keep himself out of trouble, and net the best result possible is really, really good. Way better than some other people in the series. Way better than a lot of people in the series. All right?

He does that as well as anyone in some cases. But he does drive into the back of people, and that's okay. If he's my driver and he's shoving people through corners, I'm like, yeah, get it. But he's getting results too, so it's like, Yeah. But when it happens to him, he seems to have a little...

He doesn't like it. No. Yeah. He does not like it. Definitely not. He's not like his own medicine. Yeah, he didn't. That's something I think he needs to work on is, look, man, I've...

Everybody is happy about SVG coming in here and racing, and everybody expects him to be a contender in that race in the Xfinity car at a road course like Cota, especially. and he's a V8 supercar racer. They're aggressive. Australians and New Zealanders by nature are aggressive racers, I think. I might have that wrong, but I think, look, man, he gave it as good as he got it. SVG gets out, and he's like, that's fun. Yeah.

We're good. I'm learning. This is a new style for me, new discipline. I'm getting it. But, yeah, I'm all good. Right. that's how like he Austin should have got out went man you know disappointed him but hell the race great beating up beating and banging with that guy

right not you know not frustrated about it right right right and it's for the win too yeah like yeah like what do you expect I'm watching a replay of this now like Austin Hill shoved SVG so far into turn one and just like took the lead and then and then quickly forgot about that yes right and closer to start finish line more turns later, SVG does the same thing to him and all of a sudden that's not okay. Nobody gets got wrecked.

No. Actually, Austin Hill ended up technically finishing better than SVG. Yeah, because SVG gets... Got the penalty. Yeah, the penalty. Yeah. Yeah. I think you know, Austin Hill, I wish Austin Hill would get out and say, that's some damn good racing.

Austin Hill has... He's a big boy. He's aggressive on the racetrack. He drives for RCR. There's all these ingredients to be, you know, be the man, you know, and like, and sort of be imposing and gain fans from his,

you know, his work on the track and his attitude about racing in general, right? And I think, you know, he's on the radio saying there's a book. bunch of the colleague were a bunch of wussies or whatever what I don't know what was the exact quote

Well he had a quote or it said he didn't even give me a chance to make the corner so frustrating which I mean you could think that was SVG saying the same thing about Austin Hills I'm gonna tell you right now if you if you get

if you're within reach in the last couple of corners at Cota yeah no you're not getting a chance to make the corner you're not no no matter what series no matter what you're racing unless you want to run, you know, IndyCar or F1 where you can't touch. Mm-hmm.

Yeah, you're not going to get a chance. The quote you were looking for is he said, it's a bunch of sissies over there. Okay. So, you know, that, don't do that. Right. Right. Just get out and go good hard racing, man. You know, I lost them pissed.

But good damn stuff. You know, hell, that was good racing. Is a rivalry good, though? You know, if this, oh, SVG and Austin Hill. All rivalries are great. But I wonder, you know, for Austin, I just feel like there's a better avenue for him in terms of helping his own perception and helping his own how people see him, right? Image. Image.

Do you think that this is an Austin Hill thing or do you think this is a general sentiment towards SVG after his one at Chicago? I don't think that's nothing. I don't feel, I don't know. I mean, I'm not a real. Like we can't let this happen again. It's like everybody's kind of out to make sure that this guy doesn't come in and embarrass us again. Right. I don't think so.

So, all right. Look at Watkins Glen, best finish at Watkins Glen that you can think of. It's the Kislovsky Ambrose. How did those two guys get out and react to how physical that was? It was great racing. Didn't Brad get out and go, get him everything I had? Yeah. And man, did they not drive each other into the corners, shoving each other?

through the final corners as hard as it could. That's the way you do it. Okay. You're right. That's how you get out and go. I mean, even when it sucks when you're on the wrong end of that or the guy gets the best of you, especially if you don't like the guy, man.

I mean, if I'm racing, you know, 2008 Kyle Bush into those final corners and he beats me, I'm going to get out, and it's going to be hard for me to compliment the moment. But you kind of got to see it for what it is. And that was awesome. Right. is it more do you have more of a right to be upset

when neither of them won? Because ultimately they're racing for the win and Larson wins. Well, I could see Larson was going to win that race when they took the white flag. You see how fast he was coming? Yeah, well, he had the fresher tires. He runs right up on them in the S's.

He still had, and they were definitely, so there was, I knew Larson was going to win. I got a text message I sent to my friends with like two laps to go. Larson. Because everybody was like, oh, is he going to catch him? SVG's got to catch him.

He's got to catch him, always going to, you know, once they come through term one, it's like SVG's got to put a hell of a lap together to be able to win this thing. I'm like, he ain't neither one of them winning. Because as soon as, so Larson's catching them quick, as soon as SVG and he'll get within reach of each other, they're going to get physical and again start missing corners. And they did. They missed the last corner. And Larson goes right by.

Congratulations to Rick and everybody putting that 17 out there. He wanted that number to win badly, wanted that scheme and that number. to win badly and it finally got it done. Greg Gives, my buddy and old crew chief made the call that was the right winning call. So good job by all those. You don't want to move on to the cup race. We can move on. All right.

Christopher Bales, 150th start. Can you believe that? That is awesome. My goodness. That is fantastic news. And I want to make, I don't know if it is actually, but William Byron's 78th start. Let's congratulate him. Is it William 78 start?

Holy cow. Unbelievable. That's a big number. We're talking about this on episode 526. Fantastic. Yeah, that's a milestone. Love that. 526?

NASCAR put a tweet out, congratulating Christopher Bell on his 150th start. I wonder. You know, I didn't do this homework. But I wonder what other drivers made 150 starts and didn't get a NASCAR tweet. Oh. Maybe they're making up for it because Netflix, you know.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. They're, oh, I see your point. So, they're like, oh, we feel bad. They're like, oh, we feel bad. Yeah. You're not being overlooked. Look.

We tweeted about your hundred and fifty of the start. We tweeted about your 50th start. You know what I did immediately. Since I'm pissed off grumpy old man. That's right. I went to the all-time starts. And so Richard Petty has 1,186 something like that. Sure.

That's a number. Yeah. He has a thousand more starts. That's crazy. And Richard Petty is, so 1,100 is like beyond elite. Yeah, right. And then you have, you know, Ricky Rudd, Terry Libani. I'm not naming this in perfect order,

but you have all these other drivers that are like 700, 800, 800, 900, 900. I'm somewhere into 600s, I think. Or maybe the 500s. But I think, look, man, we talk about it on this show. 631 for you. We talk about it on this show. We've talked about it before, and maybe nobody gives a shit, but I

get a little like, like, okay, 150. It's not like a, it's not tweet worthy. No. It's not, I don't think so. That is not social media content. Like 400, maybe. Because you're getting close. I think what you crest 500, yeah. You've done it. Right. You're in that

club. And so, I mean, do you guys... I agree. When you hear 150, what do you think? I mean, do you go, wow, neat. Okay, thanks for sharing that information. Do you really think that's good information? I don't really pay much attention to it.

Yeah. You don't... But what if it was like, you know, what it... So wherever Denny is, he's got quite a few, right? So maybe Denny gets to a milestone that's like... 550, 600... 630. So is it 630?

So is it at 630? So. Through 6. Oh, wait, no. Sorry, that's, that he's got more than that. Right. This was an old. This is an old document. So if he's, let's just assume he's below 650 and he gets to 650, right?

That's the tweet. No? No. I think you, I think there's certain milestones. It's like 100. So you're okay. Oh. For yourself.

Yeah, yeah. And then like 500, the team can pose. Okay. Whatever. After that, once I think it's then like. When do you think there's, when do you think NASCAR is? steps in to share this amazing information. I think it's when you pass someone important on the list, right?

Like, oh, he's eclipsed Jeff Gordon now for how many stars. You know, something like that. I think the number doesn't matter to me. Okay. I don't come in here and go, this is my 384th day work. Well. You know what I mean? I think, you know, they're, they're, I just, I, I'd struggle with this one.

Because I feel like that, you know, don't tell me about 100, 200, 150, 300. Don't tell me. Right. I don't, you're just in your career. You're just going. Just go. It's not, don't even freaking bring it up. Right. 150 starts. It's about four seasons in a cup race. Imagine like them posting an NFL player. Congrats on your fourth NFL season. Yes. That is. That is ridiculous. That's my point. Yeah. That's my point. So like, all right, you know, let's just go on down the road. You can bring this up. You know? Yeah. It's a nothing burger. But I think it is. And so when they're, but, But when do you think it should matter?

I think 500. 500? Yeah. I think 400 is pretty good number. Okay. 400 starts is when maybe the social media machines should start cranking. Okay. Tweets.

All right. All right. Yeah. Let's get everybody involved. We can bring it down 100. Let's get everybody involved. Driver tweets, team tweets, NASCAR tweets. Yeah.

And you get around 400. Do it all the ones. Celebration on Perry Road. Yeah. Pace the field. A little cake. A little cake. A star the race.

Yeah, that's right. That's kind of what that felt like. A little bit. A tweet. Is he going to, 150 starts? Yeah. It's Christopher Bell Day. Everybody, yeah.

Is he going to give the command from the seat of his car? He's announced last in driver intros. Yes. William Byron actually has 222 starts. That is fantastic. Good for him. I wouldn't have guessed he had more than Christopher Bell. I think he might be the first driver to win on his 220 seconds start.

All right, so let's get into the race. You mean talking about the race? So during the, we talked about track limits last week. I told y'all to enjoy those. The Xfinity and the truck series gave us 37 penalties of the, you know, that we know of, right? There were probably at least 50 track limit violations, 50 would be a round number that I feel good about. The cup race did not have I don't think Cup race had quite as many of those

I felt that that was probably going to be the case because the car's easier to control I don't want to say it's easier to drive because nothing at the limit is easy but it's just more it's better suited and better well built for left and right turns right where the truck and the affinity car

even Byron gets out after qualifying goes man, that thing's a handful. No grip. And so, you know, you get in a cup car and they just better at not making those mistakes. And so we didn't see quite as many issues with that.

But we didn't see yellows either. You know, we had the stage cautions that are sort of the, they're not fake yellows, but they're not the natural. Not the natural. Not the natural. Yes.

And so, their fabricated yellows, whatever you know, I don't know what you're calling. But I had a conversation with somebody in the industry about, you know, well, why didn't NASCAR throw yellows?

They had debris all over turn eight, right? Turn eight's the term where they were cutting. Right. I think. And so that trip, I got a picture of that and I sent that to you, Andrew. It was covered in, obviously covered in dirt from the inside of the curbing,

but also little rocks covered that corner. And when I saw that picture, I thought, I think that's reason enough to throw a yellow. Maybe not like inside 10 laps to go. You let it play out. But I think if you're sitting there with that kind of track conditions, you could have thrown a yellow with 20 to go

and said, we really need to clean this up. Yeah. This has gotten out of hand. It almost didn't even look like track. No. It looked like a sand trap almost. So all of the spins, the solo spins and all that stuff going on. on, that's no reason to throw a yellow

on a big track like that unless a car stalls get stuck or whatever. But I think the corner, you could argue that the situation on the track, the surface of the racetrack in turn 8 was maybe reason enough to say, all right, with 20 to go

or 15 to go still a long ways in that race, we might could get a yellow to clean this up. Otherwise, man, I mean, if there's no reason to throw a yellow, don't throw it. I saw this. really interesting stat on social media. Somebody did a little homework that was really, really cool.

I wish I had this to show it to you guys. But in all of NASCAR history, up until around 2000, just roughly 2000, 2004, NASCAR had an average of, let's just say, one and a half debris cautions a race, right? For 30 years. That was the average.

and right around 2000 to 2004 from that moment up until stage cautions the number of debris yellows jumped by two per race and I mean we were talking about I was talking about this

in my driving career in the 2000s and 2000 teens about these debris yellows and they were a horse shi right they would have a caution and wouldn't even you know the network wouldn't even be able to show you anything on the racetrack because it didn't exist.

Phantom. Yeah, the Phantom Yellows, right? They were real. They weren't real yellows, but the Phantom Yellows were, did exist because there was a chunk of time for about 15 years where the yellow flags for DeBrees just inexplicably jumped by two per race from a 30 year history. And then, as soon as stage cautions came back, that number of debris yellows reset back to the norm. How about that? I think you're onto something, Dale.

There's going to be a Reddit thread about this in a few days. Someone's going to investigate this further. I saw something on social media, and man, maybe I even saved the damn picture of it. But I was so like, holy shit, there it is. I'm not even going to waste our time looking for it but it's uh it's pretty cool and I was like yes there's the proof look I I like the race playing out if it if it's a if it's an authentic ass kicking and there's no reason to throw a yellow let's not let's not turn it into a an entertainment show right let's not manufacture anything but right before this race this is when I

a hot take that might have been a little bit sideways. I said after the Xfinity race, I was disappointed with the Xfinity race. I didn't enjoy it. Now, the beating and banging on the last lap, that's great. Right. I enjoyed that moment, but that doesn't make a good race to me, right? And so, you know, a good finish doesn't mean it was a great race. Three of my cars got black flagged for course cutting.

I was disappointed. We didn't get the four for four. But the eight car, Sammy, he had other issues. So it was just a rough day across the board for junior murder sports. That played a role in probably my feelings about enjoying the race. But, you know, we had a lot of guys that I saw cutting the course that didn't get penalized. And a lot of people that, you know, it was just frustrating to watch. And I'm like, I'm getting more and more angry about the design of the course.

never at one point in the weekend was I frustrated with NASCAR and their rulings or their decision making. It's impossible to get that perfect. You can't, their cars going through their side by side. You're like, well, I can't penalize a guy. Even though it looked like he probably was on the inside of the curb, I couldn't see it because there's another car between us. So, I mean, you can't perfectly, you know,

you can't perfectly govern this. But I want to talk about this some more. Byron is called in. We can ask him about this ourselves. What is the answer going forward? We can even cover my hot take that went south. Let's get him on the phone. Hey, William.

Hey. How's it going, buddy? You got me? Yeah, I do. Sound great. You're at the office. I am. I am.

I'm a hindered right now. What you got today? I've got a couple interviews, and then we do our SIM for Texas, actually. and then we'll talk about Richmond afterwards with Rudy and the engineers. So we're still a little couple hour meeting. You're going to ring the bell today? Not today.

I think it's scheduled for like two weeks from now. So we got a little bit of time. Got you, man. That's always fun going around. They got this bell. We do it here at Junior Motorsports. We stole the idea from Hendert Victory Bell. You take it all the way around, the whole property.

Everybody gets to ring the hell out of this thing. It's a lot of fun, man. Hey, I wanted to talk to you. We were just talking about Cota, track limits. I got so frustrated at the track limits during the Xfinity race. I thought we should never go back to Cota. And I didn't think it would be an issue in the cup race. And you talked about how the cars are just more,

the cars are more reliable, but also the cars purpose built to be able to turn left and right. And it probably goes around that racetrack better or easier than a bush car, so you're less mistake prone. And I talked to Kevin Harvick a little bit this morning about this as well. What is the answer? What is the answer? We don't want NASCAR in the officiating of track limits.

We don't want to be at a racetrack where we even have to say the word. So what do you think is the answer to this, you know, have you had a chance to talk about that? It doesn't even matter. I mean, you won the race. Sometimes when I went a race, I can care less what everybody else is problems are. Yeah, I mean, so I agree on that. A lot of times, you know, you win and your judgment's a little different, but I do feel like, so during the race for me, like, I hated the track limits because as the leader, I felt like I was at a disadvantage. Like, if I'm,

if I want to be aggressive with my line and make time, if I'm in second or third, like, I'm going to push that stuff a lot more. So I hate that that's the case because I feel like as a leader, you're in a spot where you don't really want to make that mistake and you don't know, I guess, how aggressive they're going to be in calling it. So I just feel like they've got to limit, they've got to protect us from ourselves, basically, and put some curbing in that we can, you know, that is a clear line that we're going to damage our car or go over and mess up our race. And so I just think that's the only way with big heavy stock cars that you're going to protect us because we're going to use all the track and and the only limit to that is

walls or curbs that are going to damage the car. So I talked to Kevin a little bit and he said that they have all types, different types, sizes and heights of curbs, the turtles that a lot of people like to call them, and they have them at that facility that they do install different curbing around that racetrack for different series to race. And so there may be, I think the perfect world would be to find some type of

a curbing that would not hurt your car, but it would just be a slower line to use it, right? You wouldn't want to use it because you'd just go slower through the segment of the course. So maybe there's an answer there. We always think, you know, it's,

you know, a lot of people and myself included, we get trapped into thinking no curbs or full blue turtles, right? That's the only options. Well, there's some middle ground there on the severity of the curb that would be enough of a deterrent. But there's also the mouthpieces and they've seen a lot of great data in the last couple of years of what you guys go through, so much so that they're cutting curbs like at the entrance to the bus stop at Watkins Glen. They actually shave that down because they learned that it was so severe for you guys. to have to go through that.

I mean, is it, is that a concern? Not so much, you know, you worry about the car, but also the drivers as well. What is it like for the driver to go over those curbs? For sure. Like, Walkins Glen in 2022, when the car was new, you know, we all try to get as close, you know, get our cars as low as possible. And with that, you've got the pucks on the bottom of the car. So, you, the first few times, I actually ran double duty.

in 2022. So I ran Xfinity and Cup at Watkins Glen. And I ran an Xfinity car and I was like, man, the ride quality is not too bad. You know, it feels, it's rough through the bus stop, but it's okay. I got in a cup car to practice. And no joke, like the first run, I hit the curb and I, like, my head hurt. And I was like, damn, like that hurt. Like, I need a minute. And so it just, I think that is a little bit, you know, that's what we're up against with this car. It's pretty rigid. But it's gotten a lot better as we've improved the ride quality and the shocks and springs. But yeah, that first time, 2022, I remember hitting the curb and feeling like I needed to take a breather. Yeah, they've trimmed the curb down on the interest to the bus stop.

And I actually got to go see it and saw some pictures as well. And you guys are going to be right up against that barrier heading into that corner. It's going to be awesome, but a little bit better entry. The next-gen car, man, you have won more races in this car than any other driver. when you hear about your success in the last couple of years, are you, what's the emotion? Are you relieved that things are finally clicking? Do you still feel like a dream to you to even be here?

You know, kind of what's the driving emotion? I mean, in my mind, you're easily going to win 30 races or more in your career. I could be looking at a guy that wins 50, 60, maybe even more than that. You know, if you're so young, so driven, so focused, if you stay the course, the success should be pretty linear. And so have you even had a chance to think about that, how your career is shaping up? Yeah, I mean, I think it took me a while to kind of crack the code and understand what it takes on a weekly basis to be competitive.

And I feel like part of that came from just maturity in the race car, racecraft, like mindset, like all those things had to click. And then I had to get the right people around that also could, that I could be honest with and give them the feedback. And they would understand what to give me in the car. And so that all those things kind of coincided around a couple of years. I'd say 2021 when we start going on a string of, top tens and you know very consistent performance um and then yeah i think um i mean to answer your question

about like my career i think honestly it's just it's really up to me and how hard i want to work and how much you know desire i have to to succeed and so if um if my love for racing continues at this level i feel like i can be competitive weekend and week out so it's just trying to manage the distractions so that i can um love what i do because i truly love what i do because i truly love competing and racing and I love the challenges and I just try to I try to approach every week with a similar process and knowing that that process now is effective. Do you ever have guys, young guys coming into the truck series or the Xfinity series asked you for advice yet? Not as much as you would think. I mean I think whether they're afraid to or whether they

just don't really know me. I mean, I'm, I'm probably not super approachable. I'm pretty quiet and reserved. So, um, Rajah and I have gotten to know each other. And he's probably been the, the biggest one that's come up to me in passing in the garage and just share notes about the racetrack and things like that. And I have a few buddies, you know, Stefan is, is kind of working his way through the, the truck series. So I try to, I try to help as much as I can and just, and we give feedback to each other like he he told me the break marker for turn one for the initial start so i i was like dude where am i going to break so i think just um i've got certain buddies you know that we've been you know buddies since i started racing and um and then yeah some of the younger guys might ask

questions here there yeah i think that you you talk about you talk about cracking the code and sort of understanding the effort that needs to be put into this and and where you need to put your focus is to be able to improve and get good at this, I think you would be the perfect guy to go to because all that's so fresh. You know, you've just literally done this in the last couple years. You know, for a connozillage or somebody like that, I would definitely be seeking you out to find out what's worked and what hasn't. So you talked about your love for racing.

We know that you love to race at the grassroots level. It seems that you kind of pick your spots. Where are you with that? Any more races in the future? Any races this year? Yeah. What's going on? Yeah, I mean, I would love to. I think as I get in a rhythm for the season, I wanted to be a little more strategic about it this year and not not planned so far ahead because I felt like last year, last year a couple things happened. I moved into a house and I was, you know, personally just trying to get time of my life sorted out. And I felt like it was stressful to go and plan a 10 race or 15 race schedule before I really knew.

And I ended up being way overwhelmed in the summertime and had a bit of a slump. So I just feel like I want to organically kind of plan those races, but I would love to. I love those cars like Chase talked about. I feel like the super late model translates a lot to the cup car. And there's a ton of good racetracks that you can go to. So there's a couple good races in May that we're working on putting some stuff together and hopefully do some stuff over the summer. Man, that's great to hear about how the next-gen car can compare and translate to the super

because you felt like, at least I felt like, are worried that with the way that the next-gen cars built the components and everything, that it was spacing itself further from anything else that runs on ovals in this country. So it's good to hear there's some correlation there to encourage Cup guys to get down in those cars and go compete. Yeah, the rack opinion, I think, made that. the steering. That was a huge. And that might have been why the next gen has helped me, because I did grow up doing the super late models towards the end going in the truck series,

and I feel like that was similar right away. So me and you have talked about the Titanic. You built, we talked about Legos. I got my Titanic in the mail from eBay. I have not started. I know that I need a dedicated place. You said it'd take weeks. even if I was, you know, and I don't have, you know, I probably don't have the time to dedicate to it. It's probably going to take me a longer period of time to do this. So I have a dedicated spot in my house. But all of this talk and everything you did with the next flicks sort of started the rumor of a possible relationship with Lego.

Is that something you're hoping for? Is it something that's in the works? Man, your guess is the good is mine. I hope so. I hope so for sure. I definitely have a few sets I'm going to build here soon I got the Mercedes F1 car that I'm going to build and so yeah I mean we're just going to keep it going

It's natural for me it's something I enjoy I would love to have them as a partner because I feel like it would be It'd be one of the few partners that is really applicable to my everyday life So that would be cool Between one last question man You you're one of the drive drivers that like myself and a few other the younger drivers, really, I think you look at the SIM for NASCAR as a tool that's useful.

I'm curious as to how much, having been a fan of racing simulations and I racing over the years, I'm curious as to how much you still use the manufacturer SIM. How much of that is still part of your week, your month? how much would you factor in percentage-wise you're trusting that SIM, trusting the information you're getting from it? Yeah, I mean, we've got unlimited information, you know, especially with being, you know,

Hendrick Motorsports and Chevy and everything. So I can use it as much as I want to, but we have to be careful of what we pick and choose to use. So, you know, even though you have all this information, you've got to decipher what is actually valuable. So yeah, I mean, we use it for certain tracks more than others. I'd say we're in there the most, like for a mile and a half tracks and for some of the new tracks. And then there's some places like the road courses, we don't use it much because we have a good notebook. So it just

varies. But just because it's there, it doesn't mean it's always, you know, what you use 100%. But we definitely do. Yeah. All right, ma'am. Well, I appreciate you giving us some time. Congratulations. on your win. Congratulations on all the success that you've had over the last several years. You're making another run toward a opportunity to win a championship, which I think you're going to win one of these days. William Byron on the Dale Junior Download. Thank you, buddy. Thanks, man. All right. I talked to Kevin this morning right before we started recording, and he told me he's like at that racetrack at Cota, they have like all these curbing's stored to use when different series come to that racetrack and he's like it's not just there's there's different levels different

heights and so maybe you know there is this perfect curbing that doesn't destroy the the race car but is slower if you use it right if you if you get if you go over it it it upsets the car enough that you'd rather not do that um and and William even talked about this you know the roughness of the car so you would then therefore maybe want to avoid it because of how uncomfortable that might be right. But I went on Twitter and said the Xfinity series should be running the spring Bristol, which I still think that they should not skip Bristol any chance they get to go there. I wanted to run that race this year instead of the night race.

I wanted to run the first Bristol race and get my Xfinity race done. But I definitely wanted to go back to Bristol, but I got to wait until you back half of the year. And then my hope one day is that Wilkesboro gets a points race. They ran the trucks there last year. They're going to run them there again. I'd love for Wilkesboro to have an Xfinity race in points and possibly a cup race one day in points.

I'm still of the mind that Wilkes Burrell's not all the way there yet. It's back. It's an all-star race, but nah, we want more. And I don't mean, I guess I don't want all of that to happen at the expense of Austin, Texas, right, at the expense of Cota. but man, you know, we've got to do something different. And I talked to NASCAR a little bit when I called them about the rear and housing coming out of that truck. They told me that they won't go back there the same,

whether that means different or better, more efficient officiating, because there is some technology and there's some, there's some, the officiating for the course cutting isn't all judgment. It isn't all, well, did we see it or not. there is some you know there is some technical and real you know they have this

system that they use for pit road right and it's it's a camera system that's triggered by a car you know a tire rolling away or a car being out of the box no one even has to watch it a human doesn't even need to watch it now there's there there are people that watch it to sort of back

up the system but the system runs itself and penalizes teams based on that information that it gets. And they have those same systems governing some of the corners of this racetrack at Cota. Right. And so if we can improve that to where, and if NASCAR could share openly that, hey, we have a, we have a computer system, cameras and all these things that are going to govern this.

We're not just up there doing, you know, balls and strikes because that's kind of how it feels, right? I think if mentally I can get somewhere where I'm like, all right, man, it's a system. It's a computer system. I'm not going to argue that, right? Now, I can argue if it's a human being that's missing some and catching some others. But so there's a possibility that the process of governing the track limits gets better technology-wise, but also, Harvick told me that there's these varying heights of curbs that could be put in place

that maybe don't, you know, destroy the car, but do, it's enough of a deterrent, right, that a guy would want to avoid them. or it would obviously they may still use them but they never go all the way to the inside right and so maybe there's a combination of a lot of things and I think NASCAR is definitely

going to make these adjustments they will not go back to Cota without some sort of attempted a solution which I think is a good thing and you kind of talked about like that curbing DBC brought up that like they want

to see the return of turtles to like eliminate that invisible track limits. So Byron even mentioned it too. Like if we could take it out of the driver's hands and it's just part of the course. And it doesn't have to be these giant blue things like at Roval. Like at the Roval. It doesn't, there's other styles and heights

and varying degrees of severity. So maybe there's some middle ground there that can, we don't want to tear the race car up, right? But we definitely want to try to figure out how to get these drivers to race on the track. Denny had a take on his show. But I think what was his... He basically said that there should be a common sense rule

that on a restart that's how to let things... You can't do that. It'll be chaos. Like everybody will be all over the damn track. Like, they'll be way off. Right. You know?

Yeah. And so then you're going to have to go, well, that was too severe. Now we're back to... How far is too far. Now the box is big for a lap and then gets a little small. I mean, no.

Come on. Denny. Yeah. Denny didn't have a lot of time to think about that one. I'll give him that. I blame the people who gave him the platform to say it. That's not me. I'm just kidding.

You know, I don't want Cota to go away. I got a little flak for saying that on social media. But I do. I just badly want the Wilkesboro track to survive another, you know, a couple decades. And I guess in my mind, until it gets a lot of. points race at the cup level it's not really achieve that survivability

that I'm looking for but it even I mean after the race Marcus Smith said it looks like they're already planning their return to Cota in 25 so nothing to worry about there and Marcus is the promoter not the owner of the facility but he does promote that race

as does as he promote Wilkesboro I text him and I said man this is frustrating the track limits on Saturday during his race. I said, it's so frustrating. I said, man, we've got to do something different. And he's like, yeah, I'm a little frustrated with it, too. He's the promoter of the

track and he said, I said they should go to Wilkesboro and I said it on Twitter, but everybody disagrees. So, you know, they're loving it. You know, what you're doing is, you know, the fans are loving it. So I'm sure he was happy to hear that. But I think a lot of people

is funny. At the end of the Xfinity race, everybody was in love with CODA, and then some of those people fell off the Waggit Sunday. I just, for me, it seems like we're just not racing at a track that's, I mean, it's not designed for NASCAR, it's designed for F1, but that's still my biggest thing with CODA is like, this is an F1 track. Yeah.

That would be my, that'd be my opinion too, Andrew, is I'm not, I never was frustrated with NASCAR, the drivers, or really anything other than the person that designed this race track. when you design a track that a series then has to create track limits for, you could have did it differently. You know, a race track that has track limits, that's a flaw in that specific area. The other side of that argument would be, I think, you know, there's drivers that have raced in our series.

that have come from super cars, they've came from IndyCar, and they will say these NASCAR guys are the only ones that drive beyond the track limits. Right. Like this is, they come into our series and go, this is absurd. You shouldn't be allowed to go way offline at turn one at Watkins Glen or out of the carousel. What is that? That's absurd, right? We see it and we go, that's normal.

Go wherever you want to go. race wherever you want to race, right? But all the other, basically every other series in the country or in the world even looks at NASCAR and sees us running way offline and going, what the hell is that? That's BS.

You ever think about it like that? I mean, I look, I... I don't care. I mean, I'm okay with it. I look at it the opposite way. I'm watching a one race. I'm like, this is so stupid. Why are we...

Yeah. I don't see the absurdity of us running way offline on certain corners and exits and stuff like that. But when you look at it from their point of view and you go, all right, every other series in the country for the most part, every top series, right, IndyCar and F1, they see that and they go, wow, these guys are different. I'm happy to be different.

Yeah, I guess so. I'm sure there's some scenarios in V8 supercars, IndyCar, and F1 where they are offline, right? I would imagine. Yeah, it'd be hard not to. Maybe not too extreme as we are, but. let's see Kyle Busch Christopher Bell

Kyle Busch went right after him man Yeah And I didn't realize How much taller Kyle is Than Christopher Yeah Look like about a foot taller

Yeah Seems like it Yeah Did you see Christopher Bell Tried to like Dap him up right afterwards Nope Yeah

He was trying to go for like The shake hand Oh yeah Don't go for that Didn't work I didn't see that But that's not a good You're not getting handshake

You didn't read the situation So Kyle Bush says he's wrecked him three times at that race? I think he was saying like that's twice. Jeff Gluck and Jordan were like saying that he kind of mouthed like that's twice. There won't be a third. That's kind of what he was saying. Did he wrecking there last year? Is what they said.

Yes. So apparently that's twice in a row at Kota. And did he say, who said you got one coming? It was a speculation basically of like he might he might be, you know, Kyle Bush is known to return the favor. in our book it seems like he's going to have one coming probably Josh Barry wrecked Kobayashi

they were on the same strategy in stage two which suggests that you know nobody was going to be short on fuel we talked about this on our phone call right I think Barry had to pit one more time really yeah so both of them did

well so Barry Pitt he stayed out and collected stage points at the end of stage two pit during the stage two caution and along with a bunch of other guys on that strategy, they all pit one more time before the race is over. The reason why we're wondering about that is because, so, all right, so let's just say Josh dumped Kobayashi on purpose. Something happened in the corner before or whatever, and this is not uncommon.

So I've been in this sport a long time and you get these ringers that come in and they race different. They have different ideas on what a block is, what fair is, what, clean is not good or bad just different they just have a different way of racing and they're different different methods from where they come from and so uh but sometimes they'll do something and you're like no not not not doing that to me today and you know you just you you might dump them you know because they're in they're in for a one-off they're not there all year you might not never race this guy in your life and you're frustrated

with your day and getting frustrated by getting used up by a guy who doesn't do this every week, it's like, no, I'm not letting that happen, and I'm, I'm going to show you why. Right. And so the thing that makes it even, you know, I guess, I guess I'm not, you know, not too spun out over that, no pun intended. Nice. No, nice. I don't know. I think it's fine.

I either You know Those guys are always going to get used up If they don't SVG And go to the front of the field Like he did at Chicago They are going to get used up By our cup regulars

Because You know And that was Just the way it's going to go That first race is going to be a tough one for anybody And that was at least last year I know he raced last year But we had all those like

One-off ringers I think Jensen Button Kobayashi Even Jordan Taylor filling him for Chase Elliott, their biggest feedback was how aggressive drivers are in the Cup series. Yeah, I think if you come in to run a one-off, it's going to be tough unless you can have so much speed that you're right up in that top three, clear of the mess, right? Clear the muck. But if you're

struggling, if you're an expert like road racer and you come in and you're, whether, whatever it is, car, whatever it is, you're struggling and your mid-pack, you're going to get beat around, pushed around. It is going to be an experience that you've never had before. Ty Gibbs gets, I don't know if it's criticism. It says hearing the notes he gets some criticism for not letting Bill go. People were asking if he had let Bell go, his teammate, could Bell have won the race? There's an argument to be said that, you know, should he have let Bell buy easier? Because Bell was going to close in on Byron and make a race for it.

and who's to say like I don't think so I know so you shouldn't you know I mean if Ty Gibbs decides to do that that's on him right but no one should expect him to do that that's my kind of position on it what if the Byron car breaks then Ty Gibbs basically will let his teammate buy to and gave up the win right the 24 could could break Something could happen to get a flat. He could get a course-cutting penalty. You don't know, right? So you can't let even your teammate get by in that moment. Bell is a win too. So it's like, it's a great point.

What does he need another one for? I don't have a win. I'm going for my first career win. Oh, yeah. You know? Another great point. Man, you're hot. Keep going.

Good day. Ty Gibbs. He's second in the points. I don't know if you do that. Wow. Yeah. You're on a roll, buddy. I am good.

This is my last show. I'm going to end it on high note. People were mad at me because I didn't let Jeff Gordon pass at Martinsville to get my first Martinsville in. That was going to affect him in the points for that year. But man, you've got to – that's just not the way it works. All right. Old man coming in to complain. We need like a sound sign.

Yeah. Alert. We had the short track package has been a – the short track package has been debated and criticized for quite some time. road courses have suffered similarly and a lot of people look at the packages very similar okay the car the next-gen car comes in it's amazing at the mile and a halfs it's good we saw some improvements we've seen improvements at the at the short tracks you know the martinsville tire from at the end of the end of the year last year was a good advance and um They're working on the tires, and we saw Bristol was crazy.

A lot of people like that. So we've seen some things moving, some change in the short track side of things, but not so much on the road course side of things, right? And so how far do we go down the road continuing to kind of see these very, you know, straightforward road course races that are pretty much all so similar? Road courses used to be thrilling, right? Even though I don't love road course racing, I don't tune in cause, oh man, it's road course.

I can't wait. I'm not looking forward at the schedule and going, what's the next road course? You know, one was enough back when we just raced at Riverside in the 80s. That was plenty. You know, but a lot of people love road course racing. A lot of people love stock cars in our drive. You know, a lot of people are,

a lot of people that are in our fan base that's an important part of the season. So how far do we go? When do we start seeing some maybe some tries, some effort, I guess, in affecting how the product looks on those racetracks? One thing, is it needed? I mean, I think so.

I mean, Byron said in his post-race press conference that the cars are just so reliable, especially like, you know, these teams have learned the next-gen car. So that's why we didn't see that many cautions. there seemed to be some sort of switch that was flipped, because all of a sudden, the second half of the year, the road course racing is like,

holy cow, there's a reason we added cautions, you know, to the road hole last year. Yeah, we tried to figure out, you know, maybe just talking,

taking those yellows away would change it. Right. We added them back quickly. Um, and that's fine. Um, I thought that would, yeah,

that seemed like, okay, we're gonna, we have a bore, you know, we hate to say the word boring because we don't even let our kids use that word. I'm bored.

It's a bad word. You know, the races could, the races left a lot to be desired, and so they thought, well, let's take the cautions out and see if that changes the way of the races look, right? And it didn't, so we add them back. That's fine. But there's two things, I think, that sit out there in front, and I almost hate to keep bringing it up, but horsepower, right?

If the cars had just so much horsepower that they were hard to get around the track and easy to screw up. What we need is screw-ups. Yeah. And not just, you know, wrecks. We need guys spinning their tires, trying to get on the gas and not being able to and somebody being able to do it better.

We need guys sliding through corners, missing apexes, and all of those things. And so horsepower would cause those things to happen. And also, or alternative a narrow tire. So less race less tire on the track. So the car is built symmetrically,

so it should go around a road course really well. And then we have this giant tire on it, a really, really big tire. A lot of tire on the racetrack, a lot of surface. And so it's, it drives really good, right? Comparable to some things that race there this past weekend, like the trucks and Xfinity cars.

So maybe NASCAR could have this big tire at some tracks where we don't really need to make any changes and try to develop a wheel that has a smaller, more narrow tread for road courses. Because, you know,

when I look at the, I went over to Australia to test a V8 supercar. V8 supercar has got a ton of power, but it's a road course car. It's got a lot of down force and it's going to handle. And if you put a gigantic tire on that thing, you're going to fly. But they had these tires. They used to be like from the Porsche Carrera Cup tire,

which was not enough tire. It's not enough tire. But that was good. You could blow the tires off. You could burn them up. You could beat them up. You could abuse them. And they would not fail, but they would not perform well.

and if you've slid them, spun the rear tires or any of those things, those tires, they would give up quickly. They would tap out. And so that's kind of where we need to be with this car. We need, we need, we know, we got way too much tire. The tire is just too good. Too, too good. So we need the drivers to have, you know, to go back to, you know, what we were saying after Bristol.

We need the drivers to have to, to be careful, not, not abuse the tire. not spin it, not slide it. And the ones that can't do that, can't take care of it, will be penalized by a drop-in lap time and a lack of performance and a grip falling off and all of these things. And they're going to be like, ah, you know. And so I think that's where road course needs to go. And I would love to see like some things coming together

like we've seen on the short track side to try to get the road course racing a little bit more dynamic. Oh, hey, I didn't notice you there. I was just checking my emails. What a way to start there. Welcome to Bass Jr. Stupid's a bad word in our house. I'm sorry.

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I'm calling on Twitter. All right. And yeah, let's see what you got today. This has been a really good segment for the last several months. So let's keep going. Yes, and this first question coming from Bill on Twitter. Sorry, I just had to, I'm not changing the way I'm saying. He said, have you ever had any weird or crazy dreams about racing?

Oh, man. I will say, I'm the kind of person that doesn't remember their dream often, but there are nights when I wake up and I realize that I was dreaming and I'll be able to recount whatever happened, which is always fun. I'm not sure I'd want to be a person that remembered every dream from every night, right? You'd wake up every day going, whew, glad that wasn't real, or I wish that was real. You know, you'd have that sort of emotion too.

That'd be too much. But I'll tell you this, man. Just about maybe it's less often, at least it has happened in a long time. But I was dreaming about dad at least like once a year. And it would be, it wouldn't be anything, like, wouldn't like some significant happening, we would just be in the same place. And we might be at a racetrack or around a race car and there would other people are around and not anything of note would happen.

But we were just there, right? And, you know, I liked that. I really did. I felt like, you know, when you lose a parent, and I'm going to answer the question. But when you lose a parent, you never see them again. They're not here, right? That's a real hard reality that you're not ever going to walk into the room and they'll be sitting there, ever. Right.

So when they, when they, when they, when they, when they, when they dream about them, it's sort of this little cheat code, you know, and it's nothing that you can control. You can't do it as often as you want. And so it feels legitimate. Like when it happens, you're like, man, I really, I really, I wake up and I'm like, man, I dream about. last night. It was like an exciting thing, right? That you got to steam. Even if you didn't talk or engage or communicate, it's just like getting to see them again.

And you know how real dreams can feel? So that's kind of the same way it is with racing. I don't dream about driving a car often. But when it happens, it's like you wake up and you're like, when you wake up and you remember that you dreamed about racing you're like damn i dreamed about a race last night i you know i still got the bug um you know so it's this it's this where it's it's it's always good it's never you never have any nightmares about racing you know dreams but um it doesn't happen enough and uh but when it does happen

you know i don't my dreams aren't i don't know how most people are but my dreams are like short segments that are like from one thing to another, bam, bam, bam, and then I wake up, there's no end. There's no,

there's no solution, no resolution, there's no victory moment or nothing, right? It's just, I dreamed and I woke up in the middle of it, you know, every time. And I'm like,

usually you're like, damn it, I wish I could figure out what happened. Yeah. What was the end? And there's a couple of times you ever woke up and you're like, try to go back to sleep so you can finish the dream?

Yes. You ever do that? Yeah. Oh, yeah. It doesn't work. No, it don't. No. It's terrible.

They say like, you know, if you think, whatever you're thinking about, if you're really thinking about pondering something really, really hard and you fall asleep, that tends to, that could encourage the dream to keep going. You know, the dream to be about that thing, right? So, you know, because we do, we'll worry, right, about something. And then ultimately dream about it. Yeah. You know, days later, right?

Um, so sometimes, this is going to sound hilarious. Like, sometimes I go to bed thinking about something I enjoy, hoping to dream about it, right? Okay. So, like, I'm thinking about sim racing or playing hell let loose or, you know, uh, boy, I wish I was a football player. I'm dreaming, me daydream about playing for Washington commanders. See if that might be, come a dream. You know, that I can. Yeah, number eight years.

live out this reality in a dream. It's so weird. Am I weird? Your ideal dream is playing a video game? One of them. Well, I am enjoying, I will play video games, and then I get so tired that I got to go to bed, but I don't want to stop playing video games. So I go to bed hoping to dream about playing the video game.

That's hilarious. I just heard that come out of my mouth. I'm like, that's pretty stupid. No. But it never happens. I can't never, I can't never, like, for you. force myself to dream about something. Plus, I may dream about it, but I don't remember it.

Yeah. Right. Rarely do I wake up and remember my dreams. There's no telling how many times I've dreamed about racing or my dad and not even remembered it. Interesting. I always dream like before a triathlon that it's race morning and I missed it. That's my biggest thing.

And then I wake up and I'm like, I'm not missing this race. I wake up before my alarm, all that. It's crazy stuff. Good question. This next question coming from Colbert. Maybe we've asked this before, if we have, I apologize. What's the strangest thing you've ever autographed? Yeah, we've been asked that before.

But I have a spin on that question. Yeah, I'll answer it again. I mean, the one thing that I learned about television is that every time you're doing a show, it's going to be a different audience. Yeah. So maybe some of the people don't know this answer, hadn't heard it. We were in Indianapolis. And I don't know that this was the very first time this happened, but this is one of the memories. We're in Indianapolis

and you got right outside of the bus there was this rope and there were, you know, I don't know, a dozen a couple, two dozen people waiting for autographs, diacast and all the stuff, right? So you're going to come out of the bus on your way to practice sign some autographs as me as you can

and then move on down the line and head on to the car or whatever for practice. And somebody pulled their prosthetic leg off for me to sign it. And I was like, all right, that was the first. And it's, you know, it's an unusual object to sign, right? It's like, it's not your die cast, die cast, shirt, shirt, leg. You know,

it's, it catches you by surprise. As it would, I think, anybody. Yeah. But you signed it. Of course. Yeah. Yeah, you can't. The spin on that question I have for you, and I've asked a handful of drivers in the current cup field this, and I'm going to come. compile all their answers and it's pretty good. But have you ever had like to sign someone, your name on someone's arm and they get it tattooed? And is there extra pressure to do that? Yeah, I hate that because Sharpie doesn't write good on skin.

So the autograph that I've tried to write always looks terrible in my opinion. I'll write it and I go, I really wish you wouldn't get that tattooed because it's so bad. And so what I try to do is get a blank. sheet of paper and say let me sign it on this paper you give that to your artist he'll get that on your arm I know they want the they want the real signature it feels more legitimate

but it just never it never works out like you want it to right and something about that close that something about that physical proximity and all is very

uncomfortable right being that close to a stranger and writing on them is just a weird concept, right? It's just a, so it's awkward. It's uncomfortable. Yeah. But people want that. Yeah.

So, but I always encourage them to like, let me sign it on a nice sheet of paper that we can, you know, your artist can use that. And some of them are like, nah, I don't want that. Yeah. That's not as good. Give me the sloppy one. I'm like, my idea sounds great. Surprised that.

I mean, it's only permanent. So. Yeah. Yeah. I've never, I don't have any tattoos. Now there's been some times when I thought about it. Yeah. But I know that if I started, it would be this never, I would be covered.

Like, I'm full sleeve, like over a period of time. Like, you know, five or ten years, it'd be all over the place. If you had to get one, what would be like the first thing on top of your mind? Just, you don't have an idea. Amy and I were just talking about this the other day. At one point during our relationship, way before we were married, I was convinced I wanted to get a sundrop tattoo. No way. Really?

It's a sun drop logo on my arm. Now that's a level of sponsor commitment. That's why I do not need to get tattoos because I have terrible. I have terrible ideas. I got filter time right here. Sunrop is more than a sponsor man. This is like a, that's a home team. I'm going to get a bow jingles studio.

We did the, remember we did the temporary tattoos and I had bow jingles right here. It's bow time. Yeah, it's boat time. Yeah. That's the problem. It's like I never, I've thought about it and had probably dozens of ideas about what tattoos I would get. Because you're always having those conversations with friends and stuff. None have ever been good ideas.

None, all were regrettable. And so I've never went to get the tattoo because there's never like this, oh, that's a great idea. Right? There's none. Yeah. That doesn't exist. Now I see other people and I don't look at their tattoos and go, what a dumb idea. It's a tattoo

It's what they wanted Yeah But if I get one I might go Oh no Right Why? Why did I do that? The idea I feel like

Has to sit with you Pretty good for a few years Before you even Consider getting it I would probably Be embarrassed And ashamed of Of it

Yeah Unless it was a sun drop tattoo Unless it was a sundrop tattoo That's pretty cool And then man You're walking around And people are going Is that a sun drop tattoo?

Is that temporary? No, it's not. No, it's not. I've had it for 10 years. I love that stuff, man. My whole opinion of you has now changed in an instant. I didn't know that. You're that kind of person.

All right, so first I've frosted my tips on this show. Now I'm going to get a sun drop tattoo. You need a temporary bojangles tattoo. Okay, I'll do that. I'll figure that out. We got time for one more question. This one's coming from Colin. I know like Blaney's lived on your property at certain times before.

That's not true. It's not true? So Blaney, so I had a house connected that was part of my property. I sold it to Brad. And Brad rented to Blaney. So Blaney was a neighbor. Okay. This still, the question still stays the same.

I just want to clear that. Okay. I'm glad you did. Yes. Who has been the best neighbor you've had over all the years? Blaney was great. Blaney was good? Yeah, Blaney was great because, you know,

You know, good neighbor's a neighbor you're going to, you know, you're hardly ever going to see, but when you do see them, it's cool. They never complain about what you're doing with your property. And you can enjoy a drink or two from time to time. It was perfect, man. He was kind of coming in to, you know, his own as a cup driver wins that first race. We got to help him, you know, make sure his celebration was good. we felt like we were helping.

We brought the booze. And we hung and partied all night, you know. And he, you know, he was in no trouble, man. Easy. And they, you know, he might, I don't know how much he did, but he would, you know, he'd ride a full-wheeler over to the house and we'd hang out in the basement and drink beer, which was great because I get home from the race and he gets home from the race and I'm still up and he's still up.

I'm like, let's hang out and drink a beer too. And that might happen every once in a while. and then I think maybe he rode his full-wheeler on the property some. We got some trails. And I didn't mind as long as nobody got hurt, you know. So that was pretty good. That's pretty good. All my neighbors are great.

I mean, I don't have a bad neighbor. There's not. I mean, there might be this one neighbor that's a little bit critical. You know, just not a good, not in a good mood. You're going to have those. Right. Yeah. But I don't never have any bad interaction with anybody.

and I think I like the thing I was thinking about this just driving down the road just the other day you know you drive down the road sometimes and somebody will wave at you

that you don't recognize and you're like you know they know me that I live around here and I kind of have this idea in my head that I hope that in my area we all look out for each other

right like if I see something going on that is unusual on your property I'm going to figure out how to get that information to you right? Or if I see something happening in the neighborhood that I think this person needs to know

or that person needs. We all kind of got to, you know, look out for each other. And at least that's how I hope it is. I don't know how about you got it. I mean, you know, if you live in a duplex or an apartment's complex, right, everybody's trying to work together, right? Sure, definitely. Got to coexist.

Everybody's trying to make this happen and everybody be happy and get to know each other. And so that's kind of what I hope it is like around my place. Yeah. You sound like a good neighbor. I'm easy. I don't make a lot of noise, you know. I got a, yeah, I don't make a lot of noise. I'm pretty easy.

Nice. I also, I need to circle up to a YouTube comment that made me laugh. This one's from Vegas, and it goes back to the dream conversation. They said, I'm pretty sure no one dreams about playing for the Washington commanders. That's hilarious. They'll always be my team. Yes, you're the first person to dream. Loyalty is a good quality, man.

Anyways, that's a good place. I guess so. I guess so. All right, well, thank you to Xfinity, Xfinity Mobile. All they do for us here, they support us to allow us to continue to make these shows so you guys can enjoy them. All right, so we talked about Dirty Mo Doe and the success of that show. I have to say that Tampa Tim's, we have brought you to the table, man.

You are the reason why the show has gained so much success. You think so? Yeah, we ground the ground, got no traction, couldn't. move that show at all, but since you've joined, it's blown up exploded. Must be the beard, I guess. Yeah. I feel like people really appreciate your takes. Well, I appreciate that. Well, we know the March Madness tournament has been going on, so how have you done? I mean, are you striking out? No, we're doing pretty well. Doing pretty well. We're doing pretty well. Really? Hit on a couple Cinderella's early, James Madison, Grand Canyon.

How did they? Why did you bet on Grand Canyon? Listen, when they're that big of an underdog, you kind of just take a shot. You have to. And there's always a team dressed in purple that wins, it feels like. Oh my God. This is a gambling advice? It sounds like betting on the horse because you like the name. It kind of is, yeah.

All right. Take a shot at it. Purple teams. Purple teams, yeah. All right. So let me ask you this, man. I'm very conservative, especially about things I don't know a lot about.

I'm not very versed in the gambling world. And I know there's tons of different types of bets that can be made. You can bet on the team that gets the five points first. You can bet on the first player that's going to hit the first shot. I mean, anything and everything. It's wild.

Yeah, you can bet on who wins a Super Bowl next year or whatever, right? So when you're gambling on something as big as March Madness in this bracket in college basketball, are you conservative? Are you aggressive? I'm conservative, yeah. I don't try to look. What is conservative? For me, it's just kind of focus on the day's game or the time frame, I would say. There's a ton of games going on all at once.

I don't try to get it on everything. It's really just, you know, I was at the games Thursday, so I just focused on. I saw you. I know. Did you, does that make your more encouraged to bet on the game

you're at? Yeah, because it makes it more enjoyable. More enjoyable. Yeah, like I watched North Carolina Wagner game and they were like 27-point favorites.

So I just bit on Wagner just to root for the other team. But just something small, something just to kind of keep you invested. So you're not those and off in the seats a little bit. Yeah. That sounds like fun. Yeah.

All right, let me ask you this. What conference wins the, wins the whole thing? Ooh, I think it's the ACC. They only have Carolina State, North Carolina State, and Duke. That's it.

Clemson. And Clemson. And Clemson's still in there, yeah. Yeah. Clemson's. They're at football school. I stood on Dirty Modell this past week, but they're still in it. All right.

Clemson and State, I don't think are going to win the tournament. I think North Carolina is going to win it. You think they can beat Yukon? They didn't. They didn't, but it's tough to go back. to back. Where's Duke in all this? I think they lose this round. Really? Yeah, that's kind of my. I haven't thought, I thought

they were going to lose James Madison, so I am not confident on them. Is Duke not the Duke of Old? I don't think so. I think once Coach Kay left, they kind of... I always worried about that with Carolina as they changed coaches, like how they sustain their position in basketball. Yeah. But they've done well. Yeah, I think Carolina does a good job. I'm a huge Tar Hill fan. Are you really?

A lot of people think that I'm a game Cox fan. I think you're obligated to pull for the state you're from. Yeah, a little bit. They're always in it too, so it helps. The Tar Heels are the real college team for the state of North Carolina. Oh, yeah. I hope Carolina wins it, but I'm just not sure. UCon is tough.

It's tough. It's tough. It's tough, but it's tough to go back to back. It's like a given like that UCon is going to make it to the finals. No one's gone back to back in about 20 years. So it's tough. Yeah. But we'll see.

All right, man. Appreciate you giving us an update. Dirty Moe Doe every Thursday Tim's, Tampa Tims, and the guys, Steve LaTartre group, they all will preview the races. Do y'all talk about the other sports, right? Yeah, yeah.

Whatever's going on, really. So right now, college basketball, I give out some hockey plays, golf, whatever's going on. We talk about it. I saw your take on Denny for going in Dakota. Where did he end up? I think he was like 14th or something.

So you were right. I was right, yeah. He wasn't really. The stats said it. I faded. I faded him. We did really well with Bowman and Busher, and they did really well.

All right, man. Appreciate you. Time for the white flag. Dropped already this week to tear down with Jeff Gluck and Jordan Mianke. They cover everything at Cota. And Denny Hamlin does actions detrimental, where he also covers his experience from behind the wheel of the race track this weekend in Texas. Doorbubber Clear with Connor Zillich. We get to learn a little bit about Connor.

And hear what the Doorbubber Clear guys thought about the race weekend. Dropping tomorrow's Speed Street with Conadalee and Chase Holden. And then Thursday, Dirty Modo with Steve LaTart. This is your go-to show for NASCAR gambling. A lot more people are starting to pick up on this show. And good to see the traction that it's starting to get DJD reloaded. We'll be on Thursday last week, Matthew Dillner returned to the studio as a guest. A lot of people were probably glad to see Matthew back.

Yeah. And they debated short track racing or the state of short track racing. I hope you guys enjoy it. Tune in for Bobby Hill and tomorrow. It's going to be a fun weekend at Richmond. Bubba Piler is driving Virginia Merseports. Let's get it. It's going to be pretty awesome.

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