The Dale Jr. Download - 540 - Darlington: Living Up To The Moment

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

Dale Earnhardt Jr. returns from vacationing in London and Scotland for another edition of Dirty Air. Although he was overseas spending time with Jimmie Johnson, Matt Kenseth and Casey Mears, it didn��t keep him from tuning into all the action at Darlington: Dale details his United Kingdom adventure Ryan Blaney and William Byron have a three-wide dust-up Chris Buescher vs. Tyler Reddick Brad Keselowski finally returns to Victory Lane, as an owner/driver The future of Front Row, Stewart-Haas and Spire During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners sent in questions regarding:  What meals Dale enjoyed on his trip Best games for an overseas flight Dale’s plans for grilling and smoking this summer  Favorite Darlington throwback schemes this year 21+ and present in NC. First online real money wager only. $10 Deposit req. Bonus issued as non-withdrawable bonus bets that expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See full terms at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download, and it is Post-Darlington. Brackislowski finally pulls off the win, driving for his own race team, an incredible moment for one of our Hall of Famers, or soon-to-be Hall of Famers. Also went on a trip overseas. We're going to talk about all that and more. Let's get started. This is Dale Jr., and you're listening to Dirty Mo Radio. Dirty-Dirty-Moe radio. The Dell Jr. Download. Dale, Jr. Download. Did you see if I pay as boots a hazard in the grass?

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near you. Anyways, man, I mentioned that I went on a trip went to Scotland for two nights and London for two nights. Got to visit some friends. My buddy Jimmy Johnson, Matt Kenseth, Casey Mears,

rode some mountain bikes out into the wilderness, went fly fishing for the very first time of my life. Never done that before. And that, you know, I probably would have never done that before in my life. but it was an option. So we did it.

Had some great food. Everybody had a great time. Tour to Castle. So the Royal Family has a vacation home in Scotland, and they've owned it for a couple hundred years. We toured around that property, which was kind of neat. Even on the way out,

so I don't know if it's true or not. I didn't see, but I'm in the car with Amy and we're headed to the airport to come home yesterday. And our cab driver's older fella, and he says, hey, one of the Royals is coming up by us in a motorcade. And they come zooming by on the other side of the street. And he said, I believe that was Prince William. So that was cool, if true.

Dang. London's awesome. Scotland's awesome. And I'm glad I got to go check those two. I'd never been to either country before. I have a collection of flags. I buy a three by five of any flag, whatever countries I visit, right?

And I have over a dozen maybe, different countries that I've been to in my life. And so I get to buy two new flags. And then later this year, we're going to go to Ireland for the first time. That's going to be awesome. Yeah. So look forward to that as well. but I've not seen Casey Mears in quite some time,

not really hung out with him. As long as me and Matt have been friends, I've never really traveled anywhere with him. We've never went on vacation together. And, you know, Jimmy is just a great dude to be around anytime. So, and posted on social media, we're sitting there walking down the street. The Xfinity race is happening.

I'm like, man, we are leading this race. You know, Justin Agar will dominate the hell out of a damn Xfinity race. that third stage, something just seems to always happen. And now sometimes he'll get the win, but a lot of times there'll be a challenge or some kind of adversity that we end up facing. And I'm sitting there thinking, man, it's going to, you know, what's it going to be today? But he just stomped him. Really, really cool.

We're sitting there watching the final few laps, and Jimmy's like, damn, there's nobody even near Justin in these final few laps. But that was cool walking down this. and cheering and cheering and having a little celebration there on the side of the street in London over what was going on back in Darlington, South Carolina. So quite a juxtaposition, what did you call that? That's right. Yeah.

It's a good use of the word. Yeah. It's your vocab word of the day. Yeah. Everybody, they're all texting me right now. We had a big group text, and they're all texting about how much they're catching up on their sleep in the last 24 hours. Yeah, I was going to say, are you jet lagged? No, not really.

So the flight home Flight home is easier I think Because we got up in the morning Took off around two in the afternoon And landed around 8 And didn't feel too bad Got home went right to bed Going out there is tougher

Yeah Because did you fly the red eye We Yeah we kind of flew in the evening And landed in the morning Yeah So yeah I guess you call it I think the red, when I think of a red eye, it's like, hey, I'm getting on the plane at 10, 11, 12 o'clock at night,

flying out, you know, from the west coast to the east coast or vice versa. But we took off, it was fun, man. If all the flights were good, we had one little rough landing in Scotland, a guy kind of cowboyed it in there. But the pilot stuck the landing. Well, it was my fault, man. So how is the plane not landing well, your fault? Well, yeah, I think the landing.

felt worse because of the seat we were in. Oh. Since it was a one hour flight or an hour and a half from, we connected in London, we landed in London and then flew to Scotland. Okay. And since it was like an hour and a half commute there, I got the budget package. Okay. And Amy are in the very, very last row. We're backs against the wall.

Can't we're fine. You all are over the wheels We're in the tail of the plane I think when whatever happens It's compounded The sway of the kind of movement of the plane Bounce or any kind of hard landing You feel it less toward the front of the plane

Or certainly over the fuel sludge Or even in the front of first class But I was like, we're not buying first class It's only an hour Right That's a I'm saving some money here So I said if we're not going to fly in first class Let's get all the way into the back

I chose those seats, right? You can choose your own seats, right? Pick your own adventure. And I told Amy, I said, hey, my fault. Never again, right? I'll make sure we're sitting a little closer toward the front. It's like riding the back of a school bus. You know, the bumps are bigger over the wheels.

I still would pick the economy class, right? But just maybe row 13, 12, well, maybe not 13. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But maybe a 10. I don't know, right? But anyhow, I always enjoy flying to, I like the, you know, the eight-hour flight to Europe. And, you know, you're excited to go. And I get, you know, you get on there and get the Wi-Fi.

You got all kinds of things that I make a big list before I am going to leave of all the things that I can accomplish, right? eat all the work stuff i got all these things in my notes that i need to go through and sort out and plan and you just can't never sit down and do that kind of stuff so that eight hours on the plane either going to sleep like i slept all the way out there dang really yeah that's impressive well it's funny man i got we ate a little bit of food and as soon as i sat down on the plane this is going to london as soon as i sat down on the plane i was like i could i am dead tired i could go right to sleeping so as soon as I could get in a position I tried to go to sleep and I slept four hours of the eight that's clutch yeah so that's big um I can't sleep on planes I just I can't do it I don't know

what it is about it but I'm up the whole time yeah one of the pilots that flew us home used to be rusty Wallace's pilot how did you find that out he told me he got by and he goes hey man he goes he goes like in the way back in the 80s like when rusty was just getting into to you know racing in the cup series he got a they had smaller planes back then probably didn't even have uh it's probably wasn't even a king air but it was a single prop or something something like that but he's like I used to fly rusty and then he mentioned another driver oh ricky rudd huh yeah used to fly a couple of different people small world well yeah then he showed me a

picture him and Rusty hanging out. Yeah. How was a flying commercial, the whole experience, going through security and... Oh, man, you helped me out. So... Oh, yeah. You gave me some sort of a app that got me through the customs coming back home. How much time did it save you? Well, you think. No, it did. I mean... Like, yes, ma'amation. There was a... There was a bunch of planes coming in from the tropics and all these other locations. And so the line to go through customs was packed and filling up, right? And we were going to be, you know, we're going to be like 350th, right, in line, right?

There's a ton of planes coming in all at once. And I said, oh, Amy, I got this app that Andrew hooked me up with and I filled it out and I'm ready. I had it ready to hit the button. Are you in Charlotte? Yeah. Right? And I was like, as soon as we get on the ground, I'm going to do that.

Well, we're walking up to that. I'm like, oh, I got to get the app out. hit the button and it shows me this little bark scan QR code thing and I'm like to one of the ladies I was like hey can you help me where I'm supposed to go and she goes oh yeah yeah go here's your row and we walked past everybody

everybody and Amy's looking at me like is this real are you supposed to be doing this and I'm like I don't know and so we get we go right to the front skipped all of those people and I'm standing at the baggage claim

And our baggage claim starts working. Amy's bag comes off, then it stops. And they're like, there's been a problem. There's a, there's a, the, the baggage claim thing's jammed. And, you know, your luggage will come when it's unjammed. We've got a guy coming to work on it. And all of those people that we passed came through the baggage claim, picked their bags up, got all their bags and left. And I mean, I stood there for an hour and a half before my bag came out.

Dang. So the short pit didn't, the short pit did not work. Yeah, we landed at like just around 7, 15, and I think I got my bag at 8.30, quarter to nine. That's why I never checked bags. Even for... Oh, yeah. If I don't have to wait in baggage claim...

How do you have clothes? How do I put it in the overhead bin? But I mean, if you need a... If you're able to pack for any trip in a bag that small... Yeah. I can do it. Okay. I think so.

We'll test it out. We had a couple dinners where we had to wear suits and sports. Jackets. Now that changes things. There you go. Yeah. That changes things. Now what are you doing?

Checking a bag. Okay. There was no lack of adventure on this trip. Was Jimmy a good tour guide? There was an itinerary. Things we're going to do, places we're going to eat and be, and it was good, really fun. So if I mean, you know, if it had been up to me, there would have been nothing to do. You would have just been.

Not, not, I guess that sounded like that would have been my choice, my preference. No, I'm a terrible. Planner. You just wouldn't have planned it out, right? That's what I mean, yeah. I'd be like, okay, you're on your own, everybody. Yeah, what are we doing? I don't know.

Yeah, this. What do you mean, what are we doing? Yeah. Yeah, it's cool, man. Was it fun seeing Jimmy kind of like, because he's a local there, you know, in London. Was it fun kind of having him show you around? Yeah, I mean, Jimmy's, uh, I've said this a lot over the years,

but man, Jimmy is really introduced, he's great at introducing his friends to new things, new experiences. He got me into cycling, which was great. Jimmy got me into skiing in Aspen with him one time. And then I'm, he taught, he took me and got me a lesson. I'd never really got into skiing and never done it before. I ski a couple of times.

me and Mike Davis fly to the Olympics in South Korea. And we're like, let's go skiing. And so because of Jimmy's encouragement, I'm with Mike Davis in South Korea on a mountain thinking, how in the hell did I get here? One of them surreal moments, right? Where you're like, I never saw myself doing this. And same thing with cycling.

In 2017, I rode 2,400 miles on my bike. And a bike Jimmy gave me. He's like, here. I'll give you the bike. I still have that bike. I like that bike better than any other bike I've had since, but 2012 trek. And so, yeah, I rode bikes for quite a while.

I mean, I don't ride that much anymore, but it's still, you know, I would have never gotten into that, never gotten in such great shape during that period of time. And riding a bike is good for your mind, as much as it is for your body, just being able to get out and, you know, I don't know what it is about, we used to do it, we used to ride bikes around the racetrack and driving the car, practicing the car,

worrying about qualifying or all those things can be counterintuitive with what kind of, you build up anxiety, right? About how practice didn't go as well as you wanted or whether it's going to go well in qualifying or whatever. And getting on that bike and getting out on the road for a little bit between, practice or qualifying or whatever was a good way to sort of tamper the nerves around just how the weekend was going to go and performance of the race car and all that. And I think it helped me.

Also, I think it helped me continue my, I was kind of still recovering from my concussions for 2016. And I think that that was helpful keeping me sharp mentally and really helping me understand how far I could push myself to get all the way to 100%. But anyhow, getting in the weeds a little bit. But Jimmy's just great at introducing. Jimmy's like, you know, I enjoy this. This is something I know you've never done.

I would love to show you and let you see what's going on. Yeah. He's that kind of guy. Was fly fishing his idea? Yeah. Well, basically, there was these, you go to the hotel and there's all these experiences that you can get involved in, right? There was stuff for the girls or Pilates or whatever,

and they had a list of things you could do, right? You just had to sign up. And so Jimmy's like, we're trying that, we'll try that, we'll try that, we'll try that, we'll try that. We just want to stay busy. And they were great. Riding the mountain bikes through these wooded trails in the middle of Scotland, man. I mean, I've got a ton of videos on my phone. Yeah.

We rode down this long, long, I mean, we're riding for 10 miles in the woods, right? There's a long ways, right? And so we come out into this big sort of barren, flat, open spot, long creek down beside us. And way off in the distance is this giant mountain. We rode up toward that mountain, and there was this little hut, this lodge that was like a foresters hut or a hunt lodge. And the guide's like, yeah, me and my buddies, everybody comes out here. and we drink and hang out and party. And it's right in this little bend of the creek,

and it's got this grassy sort of meadow and these trees and cover. And it was amazing. That hut had been there for 100 years, right? And all these generations of people just would go out there and hang out and drink and enjoy it, have picnics and whatever, right? But the only way to get there was using either a side-by-side or a mountain bike. but that was fun that was really really fun

so we definitely felt like we were in another country no question and but I was looking forward to getting back and seeing my girls and I've got Mother's Day all ready to go but I've got to leave today I'm going to New York City to handle some things with Amazon

and Turner who we announced that we're going to be broadcasting for in 2025 so I'm going to go to New York City and got a couple things to do there, so I won't get back home until around Wednesday, midday. And so Mother's Day for Amy isn't happening until later Wednesday, or maybe even sometime Thursday. And so she insisted, like, she didn't want to pack it into this morning

or try to rush it with the girls. She probably won't listen to this, and you all probably better not put out a clip, but I've got, I took Ila, I take Ila shopping and let I'm like, I get the lady in the store and I'm like, Isla's shopping for her mother. I'll just follow them around and they find stuff. We fill up a bag and hopefully Amy's happy with everything that's in it.

So that's going to be Mother's Day this year. Nice. Yeah. So it was a fun trip, fun time. I missed, you know, physically being in Darlington. It felt kind of silly because Chase had this awesome throwback. I felt like I needed to be there, but we had planned this trip well beyond the learning of the throwback, right?

And so anyways, kept in contact with Chase about how thankful I was for that and hoped he had a great run. They got it turned around. I watched all of the race on the plane ride home yesterday, which was perfect when you need eight hours of entertainment or something to keep that flight going. And so, yeah, I did get to see what was an interesting. incredible race and I'm just uh you know I'm impressed by this car and when you just when you least expect it you know you get these incredible moments um as much as we you know as much as we are concerned about like short tracks and how they're going to you know how do we get the car to do

give us that you know at a short track um damn dude when it delivers it delivers it delivers So, and it's the moments, NBC, when I used to work with Sam Flood and NBC, he would say it's about the moments. And I kind of understood what he meant, but that's exactly what he means, right? That finish there was a moment that we, you know, the sport has to capitalize on. And there was a period of time over the last probably several decades where those moments were scarce. They were there, but we had to wade them out. And for whatever reason, as long as we don't really go to a short track, it seems like we get a moment every damn time, right?

We had an incredible run here to start the season, some really exciting racing, you know, a couple misses at a short track here and there in the road course or whatever, and then we go for two weeks here, and we've had as, I mean, it's been as spectacular and as memorable as you could hope. So, you know, that's, that's, you know, got as much as we might have some criticisms around the next-gen car for certain, certain race tracks, you've got to give it credit when it's, when it's due, and it's certainly delivered the last couple of weeks. The, the moments are as much responsible, the moment that we had at the end of this race was the responsibility really goes, not as, you know, it goes to the car some, but it also goes to the drivers.

Reddick, right? Well, we had a couple things happened during this race, right? Blaney gets put in the fence as Byron goes three ride on a restart, right? Byron, you know, Byron gets the run and he's like, I got to take this run. I got an opportunity here and I got to take it. Now, he washed up in turn two. right he made Trux have to

have to you know have to make a move Trix is trying to lift out of there but he has he forces Trix up to race track Turex hits the 12 Blaney has every right to be angry right if you're if

if if Byron's going to go down there right and get on the you know take that I will say this and I've done this going three wild on a restart is going three wide, being the guy that goes three wide on a restart, you assume immediately a little extra responsibility. Because you're making an unusual move, right?

Going three wide on restart is unusual, wouldn't you say? At a track where three wide isn't necessarily natural. Yeah, right. It's an unnatural move. It's not a common move. But it's a move. You can make it. It's your choice.

But when you do that, you assume more responsibility now, right? Because you're going to say, all right, I'm making this choice, but I also need to realize that I'm putting the other two guys in an uncomfortable and compromised situation. Wouldn't you agree? Yeah. So you've got to assume a little more responsibility

and try to make sure you're tidy. And that's where I think Byron didn't meet the expectation of the other two drivers coming off turn two, right? he didn't stay tight and he kind of gets up to track a little bit and he's and he did that because he didn't want to lose momentum down the back straightaway right if he has to he's losing the race car a little bit

and he has to come out of the gas down the back straightaway is going to lose spots to those two cars and then probably be three wide with the guys behind it he's going to and then he's super shallow into turn three this could be a situation by time he gets back to the flag stand he's lost about six spots that's what he's trying to avoid right and he gases it up or slides of track, whatever, right?

He ends up, he ends up not giving those two cars the room that they needed and forcing one of them to have to lift out, right, and then make contact. So Blaney has, in my mind here, Blaney has every right to be angry, and Byron should try to make that right at some point, right? Do you guys see any different, I want to give you an opportunity? No, I think that's fair. I just always look at anything Blaney, you know, there's some sort of, I think it was Jordan Bianchi who tweeted a quote from Blaney from in the car and feel like he just

mashes that button and he gets really upset and gets out of the car. Oh, yeah, it was fine. So it's like, for me it's hard to gauge that heat of the moment for Blaney a little bit more than other drivers because he's definitely more vocal about it on the radio and, you know, speaking his mind to it. But I think that's fair to track like Darlington to make a bold move like. that is definitely a little riskier. Yeah, I think, I mean, I'm not just, I'm not, and I love the passion, the excitement,

the energy, I wouldn't want them to change any of that. Yeah. I don't even think about who's driving the cars. Yes, you can go three wide on a restart if you feel like you can take care of the guys around you when you do it, because when you do go three wide, that puts them in a tough situation and you've got to do what you can to try to make sure that you don't cost them anything and it cost them right it costs Blaine and Truix and a few other cars right and so you know that's I don't see how you know and it doesn't really matter who's driving the cars

that's on any you know any three wide move on a restart it's we see it all the time and sometimes it works out and everybody's fine sometimes it doesn't work out but um and I don't I mean you know after the fact you know whatever Blaney wants to say or do if he wants to get mad, not be mad, you know, Blaney has a, Blaney inside the car is different than Blaney outside the car. Certainly. And he's not,

that's not new for drivers. I think we're all kind of that way. I guess if I kicked you in the shin and it was in, you're in a hundred degree sauna, you'd probably have a different reaction than you would if you were standing outside on a standard degree day. Sure, yeah. I would be upset both ways.

Both ways. But you'd be much more angrier if it was 150 degrees. Yeah. And that's, you know, maybe let's say 135 degrees, And if I've been in the sauna for a while too. You'd be like a little more animated. Yeah. Maybe.

Yeah. And if we were competing for something inside the sauna. So he basically kicked in the shin. Yeah. You know? And so anyways, they'll have to have a conversation about that, which is, you know, going to be interesting. Man, and Blaney, I have to, when he comes back out on the racetrack and he goes up there to

show how frustrated he was. Fly by. Did you think he was going to hit him? For a moment, yeah. We obviously don't know until he gets up there. That is a tough situation because I've been in the car where the guys ran into me. And then I've been in the car where I've, oh man, so many times I wanted to go out there and destroy the other car.

But you know, you know every time if you go out there and you drive into the side of that, All you, so I don't know about Blaney, but in my situation, if I'm him, I want to go over there and hit that 24 and I just want to break the car. Right. Yeah. I just want to hurt his car. I for an eye. Yeah. I just want to ruin his, I want him to have to park.

Right. And, or at least lose a lap or two fixing a toe link, right? Whatever. And I want him to be that frustrated because I know what, you know, my day's over. I want his day to be over. Right. or any chance of winning, right? And so, especially at Darlington where it's hot and slick,

you can't get out of the way and you've got to run, you've got to drive a damaged or a wounded car, oh, it's the worst place to have to do that, because you're slow, your car drives bad, and you can't, you know, you have to, you run even slower trying to run offline and get out of the leader's way and other cars. And so if you can, boy,

if you really want to make somebody regret a decision, make them have to drive a wounded car around that place. And so. It's going to be my fantasy football punishment this year. Yeah. Yeah. So I think Blaney's, as much as he probably wanted to drive into that car on that moment, I think he probably thankful he didn't.

Because if he did, I think NASCAR would have to react. Oh, absolutely. Because we've seen them park guys even for races for that. You just don't want to take a chance on that kind of punishment coming down. That is that any, if he were to hit him, is that any different than Kyle Bush wrecking, who was it, all those years ago in the truck race under caution? You know, especially under yellow is even worse. Harvick ran into somebody at Martinsville. I think that was under caution. I can't remember. But, and he got, he had to sit out and Kenny Wallace had to drive the car, I think, in the Sunday race. Yeah. So yeah, I mean, there's a potential for that kind of punishment. That's the punishment to be that severe. So you have to think about that when you're going to go out there. and swipe at a guy. NASCAR fans, Fandul, America's number one sports book

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I guess we'll cover the final... I mean, speaking of angry drivers, but we're going to get to some more angry drivers. So Chris Buescher and Redick having a hell of a race Busher with a wild move, right, to be able to get around both his teammate Brackzlowski and Redick. That racing was incredible by the way. So good. Harvick talked about how the cars gets kind of, when they're side by side,

they kind of have a hard time trying to get advantage on one another and they could kind of hold each other at bay. And it allows the guys behind them get these runs. We love that because it produces these moments like this. And so as frustrating it is that the cars get stuck side by side and they can't really settle this fight, it does allow Bush for the opportunity to become this sort of new player in the game. He goes up there, takes a lead, right?

And he's, I think he's going to drive away and win the race. Reddick marches back up to him. Reddick makes this move into turn three, right? He's trying to do a slide job, whatever you think it might be. He wasn't as close to Chris Busher as I think you typically want to be when you're trying to make that move, right? So he was a little bit far back and maybe that's telling me that I think he realizes that he might not be able to get close enough to Chris Busher. and as he's getting within like three or two car links, he's starting to really feel some of the challenges

with aerodynamics and so forth and downforce as he's getting closer to the lead car. I wonder if he could have been a little more patient, right? As he's closing in on Busher, does Busher see him getting bigger in the mirror, right? And start driving more defensively and therefore slower. does Reddick, if Reddick waits another couple of laps, does he have a better opportunity or not? Did Reddick already know that that might be his only chance?

Is in that moment, right? Because maybe Busher didn't get through one and two just well enough. And Reddick is, that was as close as Reddick had been in the last handful of laps to be able to get up there and try anything. So it was a desperate move into turn three. and not even close to right paying off right he thought he could get in there and clear him and he immediately realized that there's no shot but i've already sent i'm already way over i'm i'm carrying enough speed that i'm going to need all the track and bushers there so he knows he's hitting him right he knows it and busher's has every right to be mad in this scenario reddick admits that it was a mistake. He admits he made that, you know, should have done something different there.

I wonder what he's thinking today in terms of like, hey man, I might have should have waited a few more laps on a better opportunity to be in a different position to try to make a pass like that. Or would he tell me if I would have waited, I would have never got that chance because the aerodynamics were going to create more and more problems for me. And I found myself really close enough

to maybe try something, but I don't know that I would have gotten that close again. That would be one thing I would like to ask Tyler. But we've seen, you know, Tyler was on the other end of this. Remember with Briscoe at Bristol? Several years on the dirt. Yeah. And Briscoe's like, hey, I had to try, right?

And they go in there, crashed out, and Kyle Busch wins the race. And so it's as much, I don't want to sit here. I mean, look, Redick f***ed up. He even said that. Yep, Reddick messed up. Bisher going up there and putting his hands on him and saying, hey, you know, I expect you to be better. Fair. All fair game.

Buster's not going to swing on nobody. I was never worried about Busser like doing anything out of character, right? Right. but and it's good to see Busher angry right we always you know we talk we talk to Chris Busher

and we see some of his interviews and he's very measured very mild right so it's good to see some some some some some real emotion right he's it shows we get to see

how important winning is to Chris Busher and I equate that to the rest of the field they all want to win that bad as much as I want to you know as much as we want to give Redick a hard time about the move

I kind of don't want I don't want them to not make that move right yeah if he doesn't try to do that we don't get the we don't get the crazy ending does it matter at all I'm watching the replay here and Boucher hits the wall

you can even see him the cart twitch a little bit Before Reddick even makes contact, Bushers in the wall. Does that matter at all? No, it doesn't matter at all. No, not in the situation. No. Reddick sent it in there and took them both out.

Reddick wrecked them both. That's the, there's nothing, uh, I can't, there's no way you can defend what Reddick did. Yeah. And at Darlington, it's not uncommon for people to bounce off the wall in the corner. So maybe at a different track, but, you know. I, I mean, I don't, I don't think.

think that would have uh i don't uh the other thing though is like i i mean i dude i like busher i think dude's cool as hell i really do but i don't want i won't i don't care who's in the cars i just want that kind of racing i want drivers doing things i want drivers doing things that create moments man poor like i'm sure a lot of this emotion has to contribute to what happened last week with Busher. Like he has not had two good weekends in terms of results that he's wanted and there was potential to win. I'm sure that

had to play into it. I agree. I agree. We talked about if I think that if last week doesn't happen, I bet Busher doesn't march down there and talk to him. I bet he just, you know, bites his tongue, you know,

and, you know, I doubt he'll, he would confront him. But to your point, We talked to Busher about last week's race, and I'm like, I'm like, dude, you're, you're going to see this highlight for the rest of your life. Here's another one. Yeah. You're going to see this, you know, this close finish. And he told us, he's like, man, it's going to sting.

I'm never going to get over it. And he even said that in his interview. He's like, I've got this one, I've got this new highlight that I'm seen all week long. it's stuck in his, you know, it's in his mind and certainly probably now two weeks in a row he's been in position to win. He said, he said, you know, I've got, I've been thinking all week long and I'll spend the rest of my, you know, I spend the rest of my life wondering what I could have done different at Kansas, but here I just got wrecked.

And I think that's fair. That's a fair statement. Well, Ann, what he said last week was going to make him feel better was go out and win Darlington. And gosh, like, the thing he needed to feel better. Do you know of any driver more motivated going into the next race than Chris Bisher to win? Well, I mean, he already tweeted, and maybe it's a bad week to have a non-points race for Chris Bisher, but he's like, I'm already looking at the Coke 600. Like, that is on our radar.

We got some sound from Chris Bisher after the race yesterday. It was certainly the person to be at on pit road. Oh, yeah. I saw you. I saw you all over there, all around it. It was fun. It was fun running around Darlington. So, uh, what? Nothing. Hey, I was like, wherever the damn, whatever was happening, Andrew was there. He was all over. I was, he was, I've never been involved in like, I wouldn't call this a fight, but a post-race altercation. So I was so excited to be on pit road when it was happening.

He texts us in the group, capital fight. Capital letters, fight. Exclamation point. And this was like well after the whole thing way down. All you can see was the back of people's heads. I know somebody. I'm like, there was no fight, Andrew. I got caught up in the moment.

I fought somebody on Petraud. Andrew's blowing this out of proportion. He's that guy in high school when there's a little shoving on the playground. Yeah. He's a fight! Come over here. Hurry! There's a fight!

That's you, Andrew. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You were egging them on. You were going to hit them? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I was throwing some elbows to get closer to the altercation. But yeah, here's a clip. Yeah. Clean race into it wasn't. They got side by side and got checked up. And we got by completely clean. And I was trying to take care of stuff, but run hard. And it just went for a move there that just was never going to happen.

It wiped us both out. I mean, here it's hard enough for we wheel hopped into the fence. It's not just a door-to-door contact and a little push and shove. It's just ruin both of our days. I don't, really frustrated by that. I really pissed off about it. I just don't get it. We've been able to race clean for how long and to take our group,

this for the third bank, number 17 team out of detention for a trophy. For another week to miss out on it, it's starting to hurt. Well, Darlington is If there's any track in the series That's a driver's racetrack, this is it Harvick said it on the broadcast I always look forward to come here No matter how bad our season might be going

Because I know I can take a car And drive it a certain way and make a difference here Yeah And every driver Drivers don't look into wins there There aren't fluke wins at Darlington Everybody that crosses the finish line and wins at that race track is a wheelman, right?

And we all, as drivers know that. Like, I've not ever won a race at Darlington. Came close. Not ever won, but I know how hard that track is. And then I know also that Chris Busher wants a Darlington trophy on his resume. Because that's a massive sort of, you know, that's a massive bit of respect that you gain from the people that matter your peers, the industry, the other drivers, right?

You know, I don't know if this is a great analogy, but like Eric Jones, right? Look at his career, right? And if you took all of his success away at Darlington, how would you feel about Eric Jones as a driver? Well, I think the fact that he has won those races is really what he hangs his hat on. And what I would hang,

it's what I would say is an indicator that he is a hell of a race car driver. Without those wins, you'd have a hard argument on really where he stacks up talent-wise. But to me, knowing what he can do at Darlington tells me that if you give Eric Jones the right combination of car, crew, he could be very good everywhere. Right. And so nobody makes mistakes or nobody lucks in the wins at that racetrack. Now, there's, you know, I'm not talking, I'm not talking about, like, Brad being in the right place to the right time. That's not lucking into that, right? I mean, there are no fluke wins at Arlington, where some back marker comes out of nowhere.

Even with Regan Smith, right, when he won, I can hear people already in, you know, in the future trying to argue my point. Regan Smith was with a team that was sort of starting to evolve into a contender, right? And they put him in the, they gave him the track position to go out there and he had a good enough car and he's a hell of enough, you know, hell of a wheelman to win that race. I don't even think that was a fluke. And so it just doesn't happen at that track. It's too hard. It's too challenging. I hated Darlington the first probably, sure, probably 10 years I raced there.

hated it because it was just so hard. It's like trigonometry when, you know, all you wanted to, you know, you wanted to do algebra. And that be that, right? I got my math credits. I'm done. Not taking trigonometry. Yeah. Right?

But you didn't get a choice. Darlington's on the schedule. You've got to do it. But eventually, after many, many years, you started to love the challenge or you found a way to love the challenge and enjoyed going there. You'd end up going and find a, you know, you had a car that could hit hit the line just right and you're like, oh man, this is what Darlington feels like when it's when you got the right pieces.

It can be really fun. So I think Chris knows how hard it is to win there and how close he was to getting that. And that makes it tougher on top of right the last couple of weeks. and how badly he wants to sort of punch his ticket to the playoffs and get that win out of the way. Hey fans, Carla Gevhart here. Mark your calendars for Thursday, May 23rd for Junior Motorsports fan day presented by Lionel Racing,

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Check Dirty Moe social channels for additional information or sign up for our email. newsletter at dirtymomedia.com. We'll see you there, May 23rd. Let's talk about Brad Casalasky, man. Yeah. Brad, I'd send him a text about how special this win must be for him. You got to think about Brad's family history. They grew up, his dad was a racer and owned his own cars.

They built everything. They were very successful in the ARCA series and racing in the truck series as well. But when I think about the Kisalowski family and even beyond before that in the 70s running at Daytona and the Dodgers and so forth, his family has raced in NASCAR for many years, when I think about them before Brad's career,

they built everything. and made everything and any success they had was they created right and they had to figure it out they had to take the pieces that they had and put together the best race car they could and go to the racetrack and they would succeed and his dad worked really hard at that his brother uh has done that his whole life right um and so brad had a i knew that about brad when i first started watching him racing the truck series and the Xfinity series driving for these smaller teams. I was like, this kid

knows how to get more out of these cars, but he also knows that he can't wreck it. I was a young, I was a young Xfinity team trying to just not crash, trying to make sure we didn't go over our budget tearing things up.

And so that's why we hired Brad. I thought if I got a 16th place car, Brad is going to finish 10th, 12th, and it's not going to crash. And that's what he did. We weren't good enough to run in the top ten. But he gave us the chance to continue to build

and get our cars and our shopping order so that we could then get better instead of just fixing wrecks all the time. And, you know, that was a big help for us here at junior motorsports to be able to get going. then Brad goes off right and has his championship in the Penske cars and sort of builds this really cool resume. And he decides while he's at the top of his game to get out of a proven winner and get into a car that's running in the very back of the field. And we forget how bad that six was.

not good. It's not good. Now let's think back a little bit and remember that car was not good. It was very bad. And we go to Martinsville and they're running last Stenhouse and Trevor and Newman. Yeah, it wasn't going anywhere. Now Newman had a couple moments, but it was a, it was a struggle. And so it really, and it seemed like that that program and organization was sort of stuck in a

rut mentally. And we know that I have to admire Brad because he got out of a car that was winning and said, I'm going to go drive this. It's going to suck. It's not going to be fun. It's going to be a long, hard process, but that's what I want.

It's going to give me this ownership. And he wanted that because of what his family had done all their lives. He needed that. Right? So, Some drivers don't care about ownership. They just want race. They're going to make money, race, win, and they'll be done. They're going to go on.

But Brad needs to own it because that's what his family has done, all their lives. That was ingrained in him. He wants to have controlling interest. He wants to choose the right hire, the direction of their cars and the culture. He wants to have influence. that on that and so that's why he made that choice and gave up what opportunities he continued to have with Penske or elsewhere so I have to admire that man because I everybody knew that man it's it's going to be tough out of the gate and so and having to sell

the idea to Matt as crew chief or anybody else right takes talented people to build good race cars and get them going to the racetrack and making them fast and he had to sell this idea to his crew chief and all these people, hey, this is going to suck. But if you believe with me, we'll fix it. I believe you can do this with me. Come on. Let's turn this around. Brad goes in there and sees the shop, the floor, and the parts and the pieces and all the outdated equipment.

And he's like, well, we're going to change this. He cleans the place up. and then they went on a wholesale effort to get rid of all of the outdated things they didn't need. I remember that auction online, and you could go on there and see all of the... It's great equipment, but it's no longer necessary and needed

that they had to get rid of, right? And I have a feeling that that happened because of Brad's influence. It's like, we've got to get rid of all these old stuff. This is just memories, right, that we need to just get out of here. and we need to clean this floor up. We need to get these benches cleaned up. We need to get all the toolboxes cleaned up and get everything looking great.

The employees come in there and go, man, what a beautiful place, I'm going to keep it looking this way, right? And so that was a big thing that I think Brad did out of the gate was change the way you felt as an employee when you walked into the building. And then the work started and the performance improved, right? And now, you know, and it happened over,

I know it's not been a long time, but the process of getting to where their winning team was a long one, right, for them. A lot of work went into that. And I think that's how we easily forget how bad that car was, because, man, you know, it's actually kind of progressively gotten better and better over the last probably 18 months to two years.

But when you go back four years ago, five years ago, man, they were not capable of running in a top 20. And so now they're showing up and they have these spurts, right, where they're, you know, they have these moments where they're a 15th, 10th place car, but then they'll have a couple weeks like they've had here lately where they're just, they're one of the best cars there. Yeah. And so I'll say, man, there's, I am amazed at how Brad has been such a great influence

on turning that place around. And you know what? The other thing is they didn't change Boucher. They didn't quit on Bisher. God, how easy would it have been for them to get rid of everything and start over? But they announced, I guess, during the post-race press conference that Bussure's got a new extension.

And he's going to be around, and which obviously you would want to keep him as talented as he is. But would you have known that he was that talented? Had Brad not come and turn this team around? They would have continued to struggle and grind it out and floundering. You'd have never seen the true winner that Chris Busher is in the Cup Series. We'd have never known that maybe had Brad not went to RFK. Yeah.

I mean, there's a lot of cool things about this whole story. And so congratulations to Brad. He has realized a dream of his to own and race and win in a car that he has a major influence over. And there was a moment in that post-race interview when he saw his little girl hugging his leg. And he went down and looked at her, picked her up where he just about broke. and so that I know that emotion's in there and he won't show it if he can help it but that was an emotional moment watching that as a father

imagining wow I can almost feel what he must be feeling right now like he got to do this he realized in that very quick moment that he not only got to do everything I just mentioned but his girls got to see it they're out there with him on the racetrack They're going to ride in the car. Man, he got to realize a dream, but also he has this incredible family around him that gets to witness these moments with him and see this part of his life.

Yeah, certainly rewarding. I mean, he was 110 starts since the last win. Talibagica, 2021. I mean, a lot of time has passed since then. Yeah. I don't know what happens going forward, man, but honestly, if this is the, you know, if you're writing the movie, that's the. the last, that's the last moment before the credits roll.

Now everything, everything from here on out for Brad Keselowski is icing on your bo-berry business. I think you hit the nail on the head there when he said like it's a story and because like you said like moments are what make the sport and the story of just like the dynasty that Roush was and then the fall and then Brad leaves and the first race he's not in that car, that car wins at Daytona 500 and then to go all the way that first. And then this win has to be so validating for him. I mean, I know all the drivers want to get over that hump of that first win.

Imagine being a driver owner. Yeah. And then you win. Brad Cislauski is a different man today for the rest of his life. 100%. Yeah. Kislovsky wins the credits roll. I can't wait for the Bisher spin-off show.

There you go. It's going to be a good one. Since we're recording on a Monday today, it's a little bit of a different schedule. We weren't able to get Brad Kislazzi to call in, but I don't. did catch up with him in Victory Lane yesterday. Talk about the win. Well, while the leaders were throwing haymakers at each other, Brad Kislauski, well, you were part of that, quite entertaining last 30 labs.

Congrats on the win. How would you describe, at least from my view, a thrilling finish? Yeah, haymakers all around. You know, Tyler and I were battling really hard. I thought I was in a really good spot, you know, when we got the lead there with, you know, 40-something to go, 50 to go. I can't remember what it was. And we were kind of driving away, and I was thinking, oh, we got this.

thing and then that yellow came out. It's like, oh, that's the last thing I needed or we needed. And then it was just the restart battle. I got beside Tyler and we were racing really hard. And we made a little contact in the corner, a little contact off the corner. And just everybody just throwing everything we had at. I don't know exactly what happened with all the contact, but I have to go back and look. But glad that and my teammate Chris Busher got by all of us and then something happened to him. So just kind of an epic day. First win since 2021.

What does it mean to just finally get that win, break that streak, especially for you and Ford? Yeah, we've had a lot of second places. We've had a lot of races we've been leading and in position, but things just didn't click. And I felt like for a while now we were due, and it's nice to be able to punch this winter. Pretty awesome for Brad.

Congratulations. And, yeah, I think it's fun to see Roush in Victor Lang, Jack. Yeah. Right. And fun to see Brad have such a great influence on that team. And I don't think they're the underdog that's overachieving anymore. I think you have to look at them now as a real threat in the Ford camp, especially, maybe one of the best Ford team out there.

Yeah, Blaney is the best Ford car. He's eighth in the points. But in terms of team, Kislauski and Bush are both 11. than 12th and points. So like consistency, I think they're a little bit better than Penske right now. And to your point, us recording this on Monday and not being able to really get a hold of some of the live call-ins. Good job by you, Andrew, on all the work you did this weekend, driving down and back to Darlington to be able to get these clips for us to be able to play today. Also want to give a shout out to Justin Al-Gyre.

We talked about it early on the show, how we watched the finish, the Xfinity race in England. But 24 career wins. and taking over the lead in the most top tens in the series history. That's a really cool stat, certainly something that he's proud of. Justin's been such a great asset to junior motor sports. We ebb and flow in terms of getting our cars to perform. And I'll say there's one thing that has always been a constant, and that's been his attitude, his professional attitude,

his effort on the racetrack. He is so dependable. And he's been a great mentor for a lot of the drivers that come through here. He can be that if they choose to access whatever insight and information he can give them. And he wants to help, right? And I think he's helped several drivers that have come through this building. but I hope that we can win a lot more races with Justin. My goal really is to try to get that guy his championship.

He's been trying to get after it, and I think we've got another shot this year. We'll see how it goes. I mean, just to show how good of a person he is, he not only helps the drivers, but he's helped me with my triathlon game, even like lending me his pair of shoes. Be like, these are game changers, yeah.

But you mentioned 24 career wins in the Xfinity series that ties you on the list. time he got there. I did that in just a couple years. Yeah. I took an old career. What took him so long? One more thing that popped up early in the weekend was Michael McDow announcing that he's going to Spire. I don't have a whole lot. I think, you know, Michael, Michael told me, all right, I came over to this 38 car at front row, and I've got a lot of influence over who's on this car and how this car goes racetrack

and how well it's prepared. I'm assuming he says whatever success we have I feel very responsible for. He doesn't say that in a bragging way. He's more like, I want that input and I get it. And I feel like the success we've had is because of my ability to have some influence. I think that he would not be going

to the Spire team without that same influence. So what do I think the future is for Mike McDowell expire? I think it's probably similar in terms of performance and results maybe better than what he's had at front row. I don't think he'll regress at all. So while I think when I watch the cars on the racetrack today, I'm not sure he's getting in a better, faster race car, but I believe he, if he'll continue to have that influence,

so I'm sure he's going to get guaranteed of that he will be able to get those cars even better. Spire seems to be, again, taking more of an assertive role to try to continue to improve. And I believe this is a step in the right direction on that path. I also believe that this is an indicator of more, this is an indicator of some sort of a conversation around this has something to do with the Stuart Haas stuff you know the Stuart Haas charters

are available or have been you know the rumor is that there there there there may be one two of those charters that that could come onto the market I just don't, I'm only guessing here. I have no insight, but I'm just feeling like front row, a form, some sort of a front row Steward Haas connection happens.

And one of the drivers that's at Stuart Haas may end up in that 38 car. 34. 34, I'm sorry, that McDowell drives. And so, I always get them too confused. I feel like that one of the current drivers at Stuart Haas ends up in Michael's old car

and there's sort of some sort of a new organization between front row and Stuart Haas and then like one or two of those charters that are currently at Stuart Haas end up getting sold out to someone else like Trackhouse 2311 right and I don't know what everybody keeps

saying, you know, man, you just trick, you know, this, this silly season is going to get even crazier, going to get even crazier. Beyond that, I mean, I'm only, I can only assume that that's, that's it. That's what they're talking about. Um, but, you know, there was, uh, did I see there was a rumor that, um, Gragson might be going somewhere? Oh, I haven't seen that one yet. So I, I guess, I guess my question is, if Stuart Haas has four drivers and they pair down on charters who goes where right who what what drivers will continue to stay in those two charters and what drivers may be going somewhere else yeah i mean that's tough especially with greggson and barry that just signed yeah this year yeah so like do you even give them a full year to prove

their worth i mean it's not grigson's rookie year but it's like his first full season to be able to have an opportunity behind the wheel same with josh barry Like, is that enough time? Well, Noah's done some really great things this year. He's had some good runs. Yeah, he's had some good runs. He's run really hard trying to, you know, he's done, he's surprised me and how well he's been able to run.

And it's interesting, man, he'll be running 10th, and he is driving his ass off to stay in 10th, you know, and he does it, right? He kind of manages it. But you can tell he is. is like getting everything he can out of that card to be able to compete with the teams in the top 15. Now, they had a great day yesterday where all the Stuart Haas cars had really, really good speed.

Briscoe ran up front, Josh drives the third, Noah had some reasonable speed at moments in the race as well. Two top fives. Yeah, it just needed to, you know, it didn't net out for Noah, but I think Noah could have easily, you know, if you had the track position at the end of the race, finish right there with still the two teammates.

priest has kind of been struggling to get the results, but it'll be interesting to see how all that shakes out. Outside of that, what happens with those charters, what happens at 34, is that all linked in some weird way? I don't really know what else could be on deck in terms of silly season. And when I hear silly season, I think drivers changing rides, right? I guess now we've got a charter.

about charters too where charters could be going I think briscoe has a team option for next year too which is something to look forward, look ahead to if they pick that up then it probably means he's one of the two that would stay or he's involved in some capacity. There you go.

Josh running third is what he needs to do, right? If he wants to continue to stay in the Cup series he's got to get those kind of results and I think he can and will. You know how I feel about Josh in terms of talent? I think he's incredible and given the right opportunity could get it done for various teams.

And I think he's in a great situation right now with Rodney. He got a crew chief that believes in him. And I think Noah's done some very incredible things this year to say, hey, I belong here. I didn't get the results in the 42 car, but, now I'm proven that I, you know, I do belong at this level. And so, and he has some great partnerships behind him. You know, some great Bass Pro shops and so forth.

So, I mean, that's helpful to any driver at this level, to have partners that believe in you will go with you. That's a big deal. You're going to get jobs over some other drivers with that kind of support behind you. Certainly. Yeah. Yeah, you, to tie it back to Michael McDowell. everyone seemed like, why is he doing this?

This is a kind of a, at least kind of shocked the NASCAR world when he announced, especially this early. I caught up with him at Darlington on, I guess that was yesterday. And he explained the move. Let's listen. Big news that came out this week, you know, moving to Spire next year and for the future. What led into that move and the decision for you to do that? Yeah, I think, you know, more than anything, what led to it is being able to have a bright future

and be able to race for many years to come. And, you know, Spire provided that opportunity for me to go, you know, contend for wins and keep doing it for many years as a driver. So, I mean, that's really the motivation behind it all. And, yeah, for sure, there's going to be, you know, a transition there and a lot of work. But I also feel like the timing's right. And they're on a growth trajectory right now and performance is getting better and their team's expanding and they're investing in the future.

and so I hope to be able to bring something to that as well. So, you know, it's a good move and excited about the opportunity. I think that guy right there knows what's going to happen at Front Road and also probably has a little insight on what's happening at Stuart Hawes. Well, and also he meant like this is a future security thing. I know. This is for the first time not signing year by year. All right.

But you're right. Yeah, it's like getting out when you can. He's been there for so long that I don't. know that he has a good enough relationship with the owner at front row, Mr. Jenkins, that I'm going to, I bet I'm going to assume that they came to him and said, hey, man, some things are shaking up. All of these pieces are moving around. And unfortunately, it's going to force us to have to make a change here.

And so he was seen an opportunity to go to this other deal at Spire, and which I think is a great opportunity for him and he noted all the reasons why but I think that you know we always felt like I know it's kind of strange because we always felt like Michael Madal was always going to be at front row no matter what he was like the you know he was fathered in

or grandfathered in right but something's going on yeah I've been keen on the verbiage he's been using like he's like you know the like oh I'm going to get a future championship content I'm going to go contend for wins. I'm like that kind of, I don't know if that says a lot about where he's coming from. You know, like, would that make you feel a little like if you're front row, like, well, he said he, front row can contend, though.

I know, that's why I'm like, it's confusing. I thought when he said, they gave me the opportunity to race for a long time. It sounds like to me, then he must have been told, hey, we're not going to give you the opportunity to race here anymore. because there's something there's some things shuffling around and now

and we're because we're going to do this maybe I'm probably probably getting my ass in trouble what if

what if what if you know front row and Stuart Haas said hey we're going to we're going to form

right you know a team together but if we're going to do that you've got to take these drivers right

and so Michael was just the odd man out, right? That we know, you know, speculating. Speculating, yeah. Right. Yeah, that makes sense. I've been wrong before. Shoo. I thought Ty Dillon was going to the Cup series. Remember that? Oh, that was last year, right? Yeah. I was convinced that he was going into the 31 cars. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He ended up in the 25 truck. Yeah. Way to go. Yeah. So, hey, I'm, don't listen to me. We're going to play this clip. We're going to play this

in about six months from now and when it's way off yeah yeah yeah hey i'm anxious to learn and find out and i'm not a i don't get on the phone or text people and go hey what do you know what do you know i mean if i wanted to you know i guess i could listen to door bumper clear they probably know they probably know most of what's happening yeah i bet they do industry insiders right they'll tell you they do at least yeah they're usually right now they are no yeah oh also hey why not we Give a shout out to our Dermot Media teammate T.J. Majors. Yes. On spotter for Brackislavski, big deal.

Yeah, yeah. I saw him in Victory Lane yesterday, and he seemed very exhausted. Well, I bet he was just relieved, all these, you know, trying to help Brad and that team. I know the work that T.J. does during the week to help Brad and his team and help that organization. He's involved. He's not just showing up and spotting off the roof. Like he's connected to like some of the effort and the direction they're going with Sim and all kinds of things. He's into that because I guess with all the information that they have now with Dark Fish and everything else, as a spotter,

he's compiling like this sort of notebook every single week that Brad and him go through. He does this with Xfinity drivers he spots with. It's insane. He's the king of S&T. It's insane. Yes. And I mean, I went over to TJ's house and he's like, check this out, man. pulls up this server and he's like here's all the stuff that I'm helping uh Carson

Koppel with and it's just like file after file of like um lines that he's running this is this is you know 30 laps on tires how how much fall off there is and this is the qualifying line that this guy used last year and here's insured or pit road and all these different things it's just so much information that uh I don't I can't believe TJ even puts that much work into it but he does certainly yeah good gives him a lot of value Yeah. He's certainly one of the best in the business. I've always felt like that, you know, he's top five spotter that I've ever, you know,

I've not worked with a ton of guys, but I think he's one of the best spotters that the series has ever had. And I know that's saying a lot, but I'm a bit biased. He works hard at it. All right. It was a major win for him. Yeah, huge. Nice. Nice.

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Hey, everybody. Coming to you a day early, I guess. I got a lot going on this week, so we're recording on Monday. And this is the Ask Junior segment of the show. Thank you, Xfinity, for supporting us here at Dirtymo Media and supporting the Asch Jr. segment of the show. We want to tell you about the Xfinity Mobile 5G and millions of Wi-Fi hotspots all across the country.

And anytime you need that nation. wide coverage, they're going to come in clutch, never leave you stranded. And so make the switch today, save with Xfinity Mobile. Xfinity is a proud premier partner of NASCAR, and we love everything they do for us here at DirtyMode Media. So it's been a fun show this morning, and looking forward to seeing what kind of questions you guys got for us. Yes, and this first one is from our good friend, Martha in Miami and it's about your trip. You're just in England and she wanted to know if you ever tried fish and chips. Did you have like have any good meals while you're there?

I had a lot of great meals. Yeah, we didn't do fishing chips. Gosh. Yeah, I eat seabass. My dad, so anytime I see sea bass on the menu, I order it because that was dad's favorite meal, at least that's what I remember. And so I ate that twice, but I wanted some bangers and mash. I guess that's one of the big deals.

Okay. It's like breakfast, right, isn't it? I don't think so. I don't know. I've never been there. But we ate good, man. It was awesome. Great food.

And Scotland had great food there too. Yeah, we're in Scotland for a couple days. We talked about all this on the show earlier. I was just in Austria. Holy cow, Wiener-Snyrd. It's so freaking good. I would highly recommend. Yeah, we ate that in Germany.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you would not have that really in England. This next question kind of similar. You know, there's a lot of time to pass on the flight. I know you mentioned earlier in the show how you pass a flight, but I guess this person is also doing a overseas flight for the first time. They want to know what's a good game to play on the, trip.

Game. Yeah. Any good games? You know, because you got the, you know, the, what was it, the football? What was it, that football game? Were you, like, managed the team? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Any good games?

All right, right, right, right, right. I mean, I'm, um, here's my games. All right, PubG Mobile, WGT golf, call a duty, IGP manager, Madden NFL, SimC city horse racing Mike made me download that yeah yeah I don't play that too much anymore Tetris the program which is that college

college football management and I've got a couple of craps game I'm trying to learn how to play craps yeah I always wanted to kind of learn how to get better at that I always see that you know we go to Vegas once or twice a year for the for the racing

you walk by those tables and it looks like everybody's having so much fun but I've never had the knowledge to go up there and play. And I certainly don't want to throw the dice, right? If you're playing, you have to throw. I mean, you can pass, but it's kind of like a bad luck, I guess, if you pass. So I'm like, I think I played craps one time in a casino and threw the dice across the room. Across the room? It was like four in the morning.

There was nobody there. So it's kind of, yeah. Just for the hell of it? Well, I was like, there was nobody here. If I did this terribly. Did the roll count? Nope. Yeah, what's the ruling on that?

I don't know about that. It's four in the morning, right? We didn't get into that. Not all the good decisions being made at four in the morning. That's amazing. No, gosh, it must have been when you're going to the Olympics, no zoo tycoon. Say again? Zoot tycoon.

Remember that? Yeah, no. No, not anymore. I don't remember that. I asked you in Victory Lane right before you're going to the Olympics. It was in Daytona. hey, you got any, how are you excited? And, you know, all you could say about the trip was,

I can't wait to play Zoo Tycoon on the plane. I never got into that. I don't even remember that. Oh, man. Well, dang. You need to follow through that. What a weird thing you remember. I don't know.

I remember that. Where do we go from here? Let's go to a, I saw this question in the YouTube chat. This is from David. Summer's right around the corner. Any plans to go grill or smoke? Oh, yeah, yeah. I need to get back into that.

I haven't been doing much on the smoker, and need to get, yeah, need to get back into that. So probably this summer, I get a chance to do that some, but I don't know. We're going to be around, having fun. We made that, we had this trip that we planned quite a while ago and that we just took to Scotland and England, and then we're going to Ireland for a couple days later in the year.

But during the summer, we're going to kind of stick around the house. So we got the fifth wheel to take out. I got the, remember the old houseboat that I bought? I just got new carpet put in it. We're putting the furniture back in and getting ready to put that in the water. And so be on the houseboat a little bit, just trying to fix it up. It's got a lot of little problems, right, that are going to take a little while to fix but I got to get to it.

Listen to some pontoon rock. Yes, I got a playlist rocking and ready to go. So, yeah, there's a lot of activities to get into and then the girls, you know, whatever's going on with Ila and Nicole and what they're doing. Are they doing any like summer camps? They have something, they have like a dance camp or, yeah, in July. So we'll be home home for that for that whole week. That's cool.

Yeah, I'm kind of looking for that. Look forward to that. So Ila's turn six, and she doesn't have, she has this gym class she goes to, but it's just really take her over to this place and she plays, right, with some friends. But I'm anxious or looking forward to her getting into an activity like whether it's soccer, dance, you know, whatever it may be, right? I want her to sort of find something she can put a lot of energy and effort into that I might could help her with or support her.

So I'm looking forward to that. Nicole's still a little bit too young for those type of things. But I was getting into that age where I'm like, hey, do you want to, do what you like to, because they had this soccer camp. I played soccer when I was her age. I was like, they got this little soccer camp at your school. It's after school, your friends, you know, I see some of your friends going to play. I was like, you know, she's not.

Not interesting. She didn't want it. She's like, I don't know, she's a little shy or doesn't, she doesn't want to fail in front of anybody or doesn't like this you know i don't know what it is she's a little timid about it i think she would enjoy so we'll see how dance goes are you going to help her practice her dance routines um you know i i don't know it's you know i don't know what you're going to get you know you're going to go into those things with an open mind and and and support her the best you can i will obviously know zero about dance or what what goes on but um

I'm going to be there every step of the way. It wouldn't miss it. Yeah. This next question also coming from the YouTube chat from Michael Davy, besides the Chase Elliott paint scheme from this weekend, because obviously that one was pretty cool. It was your car. Did you have a favorite throwback scheme that stuck out?

I like Josh Barry paint scheme. Josh Barry's paint scheme was thrown back to Rodney Childers, his crew chief. Rodney Chilers and I went to school together, grew up together. Rodney raced late models around Tri-County. and Hickory in this area, right? And Rodney was a, Rodney dominated. And we talked about it on this show one time when he came on here.

It's what if, had he gotten the opportunities like I was getting or like Josh is getting, could he have been, you know, would we be sitting here with, you know, Rodney Childers, you know, a 30-time cup winner, maybe. He's smart enough to set them damn things up. and then win championships, and he could drive them pretty darn good, too. And I just think that he won and everything he drove from go-karts,

won championships, national championships, big, big races, and then he built his own late models and would dominate. Go to Tri-County and win, you know, 18 out of 20 races, some crazy number. And that's why they, you know, that's why they threw it back to his late-model car. But I thought that was silver paint scheme was pretty cool and easy to find on the screen. I thought Larson and Terry Labani... Yeah, that was a good one.

He's just walking down pit road, I'm like, they're both wearing the same fire suit. And he rode in the truck together. I thought that was... Hendrick knocked it out of the park. I got to give Terry Labani a lot of credit for wearing the suit going all in. I know.

I probably would have had a hard time saying yes to putting a suit on. Why? I'll give you a hat. I don't know if I'm doing the whole suit. Why? I don't know. I'm not driving that day.

Yeah, but it's your car, you know. So it's really hard. I know this, no one will understand this. It's really, really hard to go to the racetrack as a retired driver and watch. It's just hard. And so, you know, I think there comes a point in your life when you're okay with that or you feel like you, you just want, you've been going to this racetrack having this very, very important role. And man, when that's gone, you feel.

so worthless. Yeah. You're standing around like I don't have a hauler to go into. I don't know where to be. And so, yeah, it's tough. Even as a broadcaster, when I go back into the garage, like, I don't have a truck to walk in. I mean, I can walk in those trucks and talk to people and say, hey, but they're like, okay,

nice to see you. Now, yeah. Nice see you. Let's see you later. So, you know, it's kind of, it's kind of strange. That's weird place. You know, it's weird to go back to the racetrack when you're a retired driver. But NASCAR's done this alumni program and reading all the comments from Rick Mass and Kenny Wallace and all these drivers about how thankful they were for that, right?

NASCAR mailed all these people hard cards and said, hey, welcome back. Come see us. That is cool. Yeah. And apparently all of these old retired drivers were very thankful for that, you know, because they feel some alienation. and they feel like nobody, you know, people could care less, or the industry right, doesn't make enough of an effort to get them to come out and visit, right?

So that was awesome to hear about that. Yeah, certainly. Well, that's a good place to N.S. Yeah, and ask Jr. this week. All right, everybody, appreciate it. Again, thanks to Xfinity for everything they do supporting us. Hope everybody's going to have a great week. I'm going to be doing a little work for Amazon and for Turner this week,

continuing to prep for our awesome return to the broadcast booth in 2025. I can't wait for that. It seems like it's so far in the future, but I'm looking forward to it, so I'm going to be a little busy this week with that. But school for the girls is about to come to an end. We are about to get to the summer. I am motivated to get that grill out.

But, yeah, I hope everybody has a great week, and I'm glad to be back in the studio. All right, now it's time for some dirty-mo dough, and I've been wanting to get to the table to ask this question. Who cashed in on the Keselowski win? Come on. I did. I did.

Got a winner. Got a winner. All right. I had a buddy of mine send me a picture. He also cashed in, and I thought it made me think of you. A lot of people followed me. I had a friend. Did you?

Yeah, a lot of people tweeted right after the waist. They're like, I wasn't going to tell you, but I told you. I had a friend text me, thanks. Tampa Tim's won me 20 bucks. There you go. There you go. Another round of pause. Good job.

Hey, who all? Were there any other surprises? Disappointments. I was thinking, you know, in that third stage, I was like, I wonder if he's cashing out on a couple guys. You know, I had a good feeling because he was, Kizowski was top three all day. I'm like, I'll just let it ride for a bit. I was a little surprised.

I mean, obviously the contacted a lot, that Redick obviously finished 30th, but his cash out really didn't do much for me, which was a little surprising. But the forwards had a really strong weekend for once. And that was, we were high on the forwards at Dirty Modell, so it paid off for us. But that was probably the biggest surprise of the weekend, how strong they were. Man, well, that's pretty cool. I bet a lot of people are pretty happy after telling that bit. We're going into the All-Star race. What is the approach to this in a non-point situation? I would just bet outright winners, and I would just have fun. Don't bet a lot of ton just kind of bet your favorite driver bet a crazy long shot you good short track guy especially with

the new pavement i'm not really sure how it's going to play out so there's nothing to go off of so just have fun really yeah so do you stick with the um you know what little bit of knowledge and data you have from last year's race i know it's a new surface but do you just go ahead and put you know gamble on larsen going out there and taking a repeat well he started in the back so i mean you're a little nervous but i mean why not if you if you want to see him come from the back to the front you might we'll put something on them. Yeah. Yeah.

So I think you just got to go off last year and go off what you see. Yeah. 10-4, man. I wonder who the underdogs would be for this particular race. I know. The lines aren't out yet,

so I wish I could tell us to tell you. Well, all right, man. Dirty Modo drops every Thursday to get those lines. When are those lines coming out? Usually like Wednesday. All right. So you have to listen Thursday to see you at Tampa Tims

and those guys are thinking about the All-Star race. And then again, a week after that, we'll have the Coca-Cola 600. Always a big one around Charlotte. hopefully getting out there to see some of the competition there in our backyard. But Dirty Mo Doe drops every Thursday on our Dirty Mo Media platforms. Tim's LaTart, the professor, coming off a big weekend.

The Bet and the Brad Kislauski win. All right, it's time for the white flag dropping Sunday night. The Tear Down with Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi. They covered everything you saw happening at Darlington this past weekend. Jeff Gluck said it was the funnest tear down that he can remember. being on. Wow. That's a big statement.

That's a big statement. Monday, action is detrimental with Denny Hamlin and door bumper clear. And that's with Brennan Queen. Butterbean. Really? On DBC. Oh man, that's going to be a good one they listen to.

He's a trip. Dropping tomorrow's Speed Street with Connor Daly and Chase Holden. And then the business of motorsports, my sister Kelly, will be with Spires Jeff Dickerson. And I'm sure everybody's always curious to hear what Jeff's talking about.

what's Jeff Scott going on? Those guys, they're jumping through hoops, trying to turn Spire into a competitor, and it's working. And so that'll be fascinating. And, you know, Kelly and I are always interested in charters and, you know, trying to get ourselves to that level with something we've been working on for a long time. And so I'm sure she'll have some great questions

as someone who's interested in, right, the ownership of a charter. Thursday, Dirty Mo Doe with Steve LaTart. We talked about that. Alex Tens and the crew will be teeing up all the information and all the best bets for the All-Star race, and then DJD reloaded on Thursday. This week we'll be hearing from a few All-Star fan vote candidates and why you should vote for them.

There's been some really cool campaigns going on out there, Justin Haley and Hosevar. They're doing a lot of funny things. He was sitting your chair. He was sitting my chair. I did. He called Nashville's cool. Go ahead.

Do what you got to do. All right. So also, yeah, we appreciate everybody who tunes in to everything we do here at Dirty Mo Media. We've got a lot going on. We've going to have a great run through the summer. Some awesome guests coming up. And I can't wait to tell you about it soon. Plus, not to mention J.R.M. Fan Day is coming up in Dirtymo Media. We're going to have a big presence there. Dirtymo game show. DBC is going to hit the stage. DJD. Reloaded. So there's going to be plenty of stuff to watch. I'll be out here signing autographs at Junior Motorsports.

I'll be on stage for some of that Dirtymoe media content. I'm going over to Hendrick Motors to sign autographs. At one point. You got a busy schedule. Yeah, a lot going on. We'll try to keep you up to date on everything we have happening. And hopefully we'll run into you and say hello. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.