The Dale Jr. Download - 561 - Indy: An Unpopular Opinion About The Finish

Episode Date: July 23, 2024

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the Dirty Mo Media studio to discuss the heavily debated Brickyard 400 finish, and has an opinion that may surprise you. There was a lot of controversy at Indianapolis this year and the Dirty Air crew unpacks all of it:Should NASCAR have waived off the final start?How does Ryan Blaney feel about it now?Did NASCAR make the right call with the final yellow flag?Race winning crew chief Cliff Daniels joins the showPenalties or warnings for blending back onto the trackDuring the Ask Jr. segment of the show, listeners sent in questions regarding:Team Xbox or Playstation?Being in the Nickelback “Rockstar” music videoDale’s choice in glassesDale’s next project car21+ and present in North Carolina. Opt in req. Wager requirements apply. Bonuses awarded as nonwithdrawable bonus bets or profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including bonus expiration. See terms and conditions at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, it's Dale Jr. And we're back again in the Dirty Mo Media Studio for another episode of DirtyMone this Tuesday, brought to you by Tire Pros, and we're going to cover everything that happened at Indianapolis. I race this weekend at Langley. We'll cover that Thursday right now. We need to talk about what happened at the brickyard. Let's get started.

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Hey, everybody's Dale Jr. back again in the Dirty Mo Media Studio. And here with Andrew and Dalton and Thames and everybody. Yeah, coming off of a busy weekend for me, busy weekend for NASCAR. And a lot to cover. I want to thank Tire Pros for supporting and sponsoring our Dirty Air segment this Tuesday. Tire Pros is, you know, a great supporter of junior motorsports, and they got hundreds of locations across the country

and, you know, owned by men and women in your own community. And so if you need more than just tires, I mean, you know, when Tire Pros first started being a part of junior motorsports and supporting us, obviously you want to imagine that you'd go there to get you some new tires on your car. But they do everything else, anything. all service. So that's something that really surprised me about them. But having visited a tire pros locally, they can accomplish about anything you need for your

car. So make sure if you want to support your community and the people working in it and owning businesses in it, you'll take it to tire pros. For me, I raced at Langley Speedway with the late model stock car this past weekend for Bass Pro. Had a great weekend. but let's get on into Indianapolis and talk about the race weekend there. Since the Cup series is going on break for the Olympics, it'll feel weird.

There'll be no cup racing, I guess, for like two weeks, right? Two Sundays or one Sunday? Two Sundays. When was the last time that happened? It's been a while. I mean, there used to be a 28 race schedule, which was perfect. You know, everything in the past was perfect. There used to be a 28 race schedule, and we had a lot of time off back then.

This is in the 80s. There was often almost a break between races through multiple weeks. So, you know, it was kind of normal to have some time off. But we've gotten so used to racing like, you know, 20 weeks in a row and then having one off weekend in the middle of year. and then 20 more weeks of racing straight out to the end of the season. So it's going to feel weird not to having cup racing, and it'll be interesting to see how that affects anything if it does affect anything. I think, you know, I'll be excited when cup racing comes back,

so I'm assuming everybody else will, and it will not be a detriment to, you know, viewership or anything like that. It's just going to, you know, the Olympics are great, but, you know, no racing is not. what anybody wants. So it'd be tough to weather storm for a couple weeks. But anyhow, do you think this is a nice break for the drivers and the teams? Like, is this something that the industry that travels every week is going to be welcomed and, you know, people look forward to this two weeks off? Like, you know, put yourself like, you know, as a driver. Well, that's what I was, yeah, that's the point I was trying to make is that Larson's on vacation. It's not going to call in today. We get

the winter to call in every week and Larson's out of the country maybe. But, um, so we're going to talk to Cliff Daniels, his crew chief, it's Cliff's 20th Cup win. You know, the race had some controversy if you want to look at it like that. I didn't really get too stirred up about it, but we'll talk to Cliff about the win and see what he has to say. Ryan Blaney was upset after the race. Keselowski is the control car coming to the green. and runs out of gas,

darts to pit road, and immediately, you know, the front road changes to where Blaney is the control car. Larson is now on the inside line, which would be the preferred line going into term one. And there's a lot of people that, you know, Larson didn't have a problem with it, obviously, but Blaney was upset,

that maybe they shouldn't have went green. This is all heat of the moment. He was frustrated that, you know, he was now not in the preferred line, but the control car. He was thinking that NASCAR might have, should have waved off the green flag. I don't know how he feels today.

We could, it would be nice to know really where his head at, his heads at after a couple days of thinking about it. But there's a lot of debate about what people should, what should have happened in that moment? I honestly feel like that it played out the way it should have. Brad Kislauski is not at fault. They were trying to stretch fuel. They knew that they were probably on, you know,

they interviewed the crew chief Matt and he said, hey, we're probably going to run out, but we're already, you know, we made our bed. And so we're going to go for it. And it's their, their prerogative to bring their car to pit road whenever they choose. And it just so happened that they're coming to green flag and he decides to pit. Something about whatever's happening inside the car for Brad.

Let him know that he wasn't going to make another lap. But they bring the car to pit road. That's no fault of Brad's for how that all played out. And per how the rules are written, Blaney's now the control car. and we're going to have a green flag. I don't have a problem with this. I don't think that they should, you know, have a time out.

And they even said that if they, I guess I think I heard NASCAR say that had they not thrown the green, they might have let them, you know, if they had sort of waved off the green, they still wouldn't allow them to reach you. So it wouldn't have made any difference other than, it would have allowed a moment for Blaney to regroup and replan his strategy for the restart now is the control car.

And Larson would have had maybe a moment to think about not being the control car. Because I don't know if Larson truly knew in the moment who the control car is. And so we can ask Cliff what he thinks Larson might have thought in the moment. because listen, let me tell you something. I'm going to admit this. I do not know every freaking rule in the rule book. You know, maybe Steve LaTartre does, but there's a few people in the garage that would claim they know every rule.

But I promise you, you're going to, you could test every driver, and they're going to fail some rules. You know, you get in a car and you race to the front and you try to win the race. you don't need to know every freaking rule. And this is such an obscure thing that I don't expect all the drivers to immediately be aware of what happens next. And you've got a football field to the restart zone,

maybe less, to have all this figured out and understand what's happening. And so I would have not had a problem had NASCAR waved off the start, but they usually just don't do that. I mean, you know, if a car runs out of gas or, you know, if Brad just runs out of gas and pulls to the side, you know, like he did, entering pit road, that, that to me is not enough to wave off the start or get in the way of what's playing out with Green Flag. So, yes? Yeah, and to answer, like, to answer your question, Larson said after the race, in regards to like knowing the rules, he said, I came to the restart zone.

I'm sure Ryan and I were both confused on who was the control car. So, and he even went on to say it was a bit confusing. So he definitely did not know what was going on. And there's a lot of debate about him jumping the start. And so if, you know, if he doesn't know who's a control car, he is, you know, maybe Ryan doesn't even know that. Now Ryan, you know, over the radio, before he gets, before the race is over, he seems to understand that he was a control. car. But in that very moment, did he realize that? Yeah. I don't know that. But anyhow, you know, the restart happens. Larson takes a, you know,

may have jumped it a little bit or gotten the gas, had a little bit of an advantage. Blaney's side draft him as hard as he could to try to draw back even and maybe get a little bit ahead. But still, he's in the wrong lane going into term one. And I think if anything, that was probably the most frustrating part for Blaney is he, He's now the leader, the control car, but he can't be in the lane that he would prefer. But that is, I don't have a problem with that because of how the rules are written and the way that works. When a car pulls out a line, whether it's the lead car, the fifth place car, or the ninth place car, the line moves forward, and we move on. And so, you know, unless they want to change the rules,

I'm not upset about how all that went down. There are some drivers that were radioactive, including Blaney, who I feel like always gets upset during a race. It's always a sweetheart. What are your thoughts on him saying? And this is, I think, in the heat of the moment, he said, quote, it's over. I'm on the top.

I ain't going to win from the top. Gave it to fucking golden boy, son of a borg. Just heat of the moment. Blaney is super, I mean, I used to say on the broadcast that he has a short fuse. That's not necessarily exactly true. he just you know the guy that you talk to

and know outside the car versus the guy that when he gets in the car he takes the filter off and he says whatever is immediately top of mind into that radio and I think that as he gets I think that'll probably change

as he races longer into his career you know we're gonna we're you know I'm not going to make a big deal out of that because it's just being you know he's just running his mouth in the car and I don't believe that it you know I don't believe that he even

cares that much about I mean he's mad in the moment but and he just says whatever he thinks but I think over time the more of this the more that the media picks up on these things that he says the less he'll do it

and to me that's just you know you'd have to understand that go out and sit in your car in the driveway and for three and a half hours without the air conditioner on in a 130 degree temperature heat and and have something annoy you and how are you going to react that's that's all this is i mean i you know i do the same thing and you think that you're only talking to the person on the other end which is your crew chief but you and you're not thinking about all of the

other people with scanners and all of the, you know, public with connections, you know, TV. TV. Yeah. You're not thinking about that. You don't, you're not thinking about it. You don't care about it. You're mad. You want to tell somebody you've got a team on the other end of the line that's going to back you.

And so you're like, man, I'm going to say what I think. He's tell my boys about it. And, you know, you don't really care about who else is listening until you do, right? You get older and then you start maybe dialing that back. little bit. I don't, I'm not worried about all that. I mean, Larson had a little fun with it on social media. I don't think there's any problem or any riff between these two guys. Um, every week there's a different golden boy. You know, one week it's Larson. Next week it might be Chase Elliott. So I don't, you know, I'm not,

everybody thinks that NASCAR scripted, uh, not everybody. Just, you know, there's, when things like this happen, there's like this little ground swell, uh, you know, and I've been in the middle of that years ago. It's annoying, but it's BS. There's no conspiracy and no, no group of people involved in NASCAR's, you know, there's nobody sitting around a desk in an office in the building at NASCAR going, all right, let's plan this next race out and try to get Golden Boy the win. Yeah, can we write in the script that Kislauski comes, runs out of gas coming to the green? Can we write that in there real quick. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, priest spins. This is just all heat of the moment, frustration. Listen, it's Indy. It's the Oval. It's a big deal to win there. Ryan Blaney,

racing for his team owner, has done everything perfectly to put himself in position to win this race. Could he have held off Larson? I don't know. Larson was coming pretty quickly. I think Larson wins the race and think the race You know as soon as Larson gets the lead I think the race is over So which leads to we want to go back to a couple other things that happen But uh Ryan Priest gets spun out by Chase Elliott, unintentional.

Priest runs out of gas coming off turn two. I was wondering how that all went down because I was so ready to blame priests for all of this nonsense. Yeah, you texted like, we need to give priests some shit for this. Well, you know, we gave Cendrick a hard time for creating all that fiasco in Nashville.

It's only fair that we sort of make sure we, you know, priest is the suspect here that we have to question. I think Kyle Bush was the caution that led to this, though. So if we're pointing fingers, I think it's Kyle Busch. Really? He dove in too hard coming into three and washed up into Denny.

Like he sent us into overtime. Okay. He makes the list. All right. Well, he had a great run going. He did, yeah, until like the very freaking end. It's like vintage Kyle Busch. And then all of a sudden it was just dawn.

Modern day, Kyle Busch. Well, priests get spun, runs out of gas. No fault of his own. He's as low as he can get. Chase has got to go, right? so Chase's, you know, seeing cars go by on the outside thinking what the hell's wrong with Priest here. He spins out, I think he hits the wall, he's got flat tires, he's off out of the way, but then

he tried to ride his car and gets it out there toward the racing surface and onto the apron and so forth, but he's, he's in the way now. And he's spinning his tires. So as I watched it live, I felt like. that I personally realized priests was not going anywhere before our leader got to turn four. There's going to be a ton of people. I'm sure Andrews as well that'll have like a freaking timeline, perfect, you know, amount of here's how long they had to decide. You've got that right. Doesn't sound like him at all. Sure do. So listen,

Elton Sawyer says, you know, we'd like to play out naturally. We want teams to to race to the checker flag. We did everything we possibly could to make that happen. We kept an eye on the 41. He was given in an effort to get going. He had flat tires. He wasn't going to move. And we had already taken the white.

That, to me, is a great explanation. But the only problem with that is I felt like I knew he wasn't going to be able to move before they got to turn four. Yeah, me too. Right. And I think a lot of people feel that way. Um, this I think is a, this isn't like an intentional goof by NASCAR. This, uh, this decision has a lot to do with the size of the race track. All right.

So if this happens, you know, if this happens at a short track, I think it's a caution. You know, it's a caution before the white. if it happens at a smaller track, even Nashville, right? But it's such a large racetrack that there's time to wait, and they took advantage of that unique aspect of the day, right? And so they waited, and they can wait and wait and wait. Now, they could have thrown the yellow flag and could have regrouped and rewracked. I've got no problem with that.

I don't care about guys running out of gas. That's their problem. They put themselves in that situation. I don't think that NASCAR should try to avoid, you know, throw in the yellow because it might ruin a strategy for several cars. That's their NASCAR's decisions in race control and race teams' strategies should never be going out to dinner. Right. No.

She should never implicate on the officiating of the race. Never, right. So I don't want that. And I think someone who can weigh in on this. Oh, is he here. Cliff Daniels is here. Damn, right in the middle of this. All right.

So, I'd be curious to hear his opinion, though. I suppose, yeah, let's bring him in. All right, so we got Cliff Daniels calling in. Cliff, thanks for giving us a minute today. I know you're on vacation. Looks like you're, I mean, y'all didn't waste any time. Y'all, y'all didn't even, did you even celebrate the win before you got your, everybody started headed toward their respective vacations?

So the way that we celebrated the win was kissing the bricks on the front straightaway with Mr.eration and. Gordon after the race. And so we get done with that, media center, get through tech. And they told us that the pilots were going to time out. So we couldn't even really hang around the track for that long. Had to jump on the plane and get out. And landed at home, of course, you know, late Sunday night.

And my wife and I got this house for us and our kids for this week. So Monday morning was a complete disaster trying to get everybody ready to head out of the house and come here. So to answer your question, no, we didn't waste much time. time and still trying to figure out how to celebrate the win, not being at the racetrack. And it's weird. So we got a couple weeks where we won't race as wildly Olympics are going on for NBC. And so I was wondering, like, is there, how will you best utilize that time so that your team hits the ground running when y'all get back to the racetrack? Yeah. So what we've done really well as a company is identify how to kind of structure the workflow for the road crew guys,

you know, being off for some of this time and what it's going to look like when they come back. How does the shop flow need to be? So we're kind of hitting it heavy this first week of giving folks the time off, which we could do because over the last, I'd say, month and a half, two months, we built our schedule forward. So a lot of our cars are in really good shape, like the Richmond cars are actually in fantastic shape right now, which is great. So our company is actually going to be closed Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday of this week, full shutdown, no emails allowed, which is awesome that, you know, we've structured ourselves

that way and, you know, big thanks to Mr. H for approving that. And part of the reason we could do that is our cars are in good shape. The second week, we'll have a little bit of, you know, shop flow going to try to help keep us ahead. And then when we come back for the, you know, for the week of Richmond, it's going to be game on. So getting on to the race, you know, do you choose behind Brad Kiselowski for any other reason other than being on that inside line? I mean, do you understand that Brad's obviously short on fuel, his own crew chief had stated that they were not going to make it? I would be hesitant to line up behind this car, not knowing how he might fire off. So what was that conversation and thought process like for you guys?

Well, you're right, and we knew how big of a risk that it was going to be. And at the same time, kind of thinking through the scenarios, we tried not to, you know, confuse ourselves too much with this conversation. But we knew if Brad ran out, you know, coming to the restart zone or whatever, you know, NASCAR does have the rule that you can't pass before the start finish line unless the guy in front of you has trouble. So kind of our best shot to have a chance at the win, knowing where we were lining up, was going to be to be behind Brad. and if Brad's car didn't run out of fuel, then hopefully we push Brad past the 12 into turn one, and now we get to race it out with Brad for the win, you know, kind of hoping and knowing that they were going to be tight on fuel. I don't think anybody expected it to go quite the way that it did, and certainly a big kind of free window of opportunity opened up for us. I think Kyle was back and forth in his mind at the time of which car to pick behind,

but knowing how dominant the bottom lane was there, I knew why he chose what he did. Yeah. As the, you know, as the race is playing out, it looked like, even though, you know, Blaney was relatively quick, you guys, you know, were able to be more aggressive because of your situation with fuel. Some of the cars were trying to save to make it to the end, Blaney, one of them. I don't know, I mean, where was your confidence level that you could just drive up there without the yellows

and take this lead? and win this race? One out of ten. Really? Yes, just being honest. I think we, and maybe I'll just speak for myself, I think I underestimated how much those guys were going to have to save fuel, knowing that they were going to be more than just a lap short.

And one thing that I thought was really interesting, and I'm sure you saw this play out, when they were all saving fuel, they were keeping their gaps to the cars around, them pretty tight, which almost allowed for this little bit of accordion effect. And the accordion is what helped Kyle do such a good job of building runs. And of course, at the time, we had fresh tires, we had the fuel. So we didn't need to take anything into consideration as far as our level of aggression.

And so when guys that were saving fuel were blocking us like they should, in doing that, they were actually further tightening the gaps, you know, to the cars around them, which would create more of an accordion. And it just kept giving us a window, you know, like Kyle described it, to kind of throw some bombs on entry and get spotters to call out the spot for us. So that was really interesting to me. And we had to make a couple adjustments to our car leading up to that point so that it could turn good enough in traffic.

The next-gen car, you know, typically the arrow effects of it. It gets really tight in traffic. I was glad we had a good enough adjustment in the car that Kyle could really kind of arc out and turn to build a run. And it was pretty wild to see the way he got through there so quick. How did you guys prepare to run the Oval, having run the road course there for so many years and not having much experience with the next gen on this track? I mean, what are what is the thought process leading up to the race? What are some of the notes or some other tracks that you might be pulling information from that compare to the corners there at Indy? Pocono maybe being one of them, but how do you feel like you guys obviously prepared really well,

but how do you feel like the race went off? Do we continue to race the Oval? Was that where we need to be? Was it a great experience for y'all? It really was. And even from the start, you know, there was a test that Blake and Alex and the 48 team did roughly a year ago that I think was the first good year tire test. then there was another test a couple months ago that the 11 the 8 and i think the 38 you know we're at and and we had a decent window into the world of you know what what the tire was going to look like what lap times and pace and fall off were going to look like you know all big question marks of course um and so to your point you know this from all your years of cup racing you know that there's a lot that you can take over and compare between polono and indy not everything but there's a lot

And it was really helpful for us to have all four of our cars pretty competitive at Pocono. And actually, the nine was really good at Pocono and they could pass really well. A few things they had in their car that we thought helped them, you know, have a little more turn and traffic. So our company kind of banded around, you know, our recent Pocono experience. And I was really impressed. Nowadays, there's so much that happens from the driver in the loop simulator side of things and from the SIM side of things. I was really impressed with our groups back at the shop of just getting the balance of our cars close. It was a different tire than Pocono.

This tire that we ran in Indy had thicker tread gauge. There's a softer right side compound. Man, that's just a lot of variables to take into play. And as a long-time racer myself, and you know, you can of course relate to this, you kind of have questions when so much is driven from Sim of what is reality? going to show us. You know, what is the track going to look like when it takes rubber? You know, when the pace picks up as the track cleans off,

and then, you know, naturally the track will take rubber and then get slower. You know, those are big questions to answer. And it was nice to unload with our balance being really close in practice. And then we could just kind of tune on our cars from there. We didn't have to make any big wholesale changes. And that kind of set us up for the weekend. Well, you did a great job. Congratulations on the win.

A win at Indy is just unlike any other. The opportunity to kiss the bricks and to have that trophy and your resume is a special thing. You've built a hell of a resume already. 20 cup wins as a crew chief. And, you know, you're just getting started. I mean, relatively young in the game and building a hell of a potential Hall of Fame career, bud. So congratulations. Good luck to rest of the way.

Enjoy your vacation. we'll be excited when racing returns. Hey, thank you. And one thing I've got to ask you, because I don't know if you know this, but my sister Tiff, who's sitting in the room there with you, I'm sure. Our home track is Langley Speedway, and rumor has that you were up there this weekend, hanging out with some of our friends. What was that like?

I really, really loved it. So my mom lived in Norfolk for 25 years, and I'd go up there twice a year as a kid, and every once in a while we'd get to go to Langley. and I know the history of the track, appreciate it, and felt very comfortable being there because of that connection with my mom. Had never turned a lap there. Wow. Brand new car.

Okay. Quick off the trailer. Really happy. I don't think we made it better. We might have done a couple things that actually kind of hurt us for the race, but a little tightness there that cost us a chance at the win, but saved tires and was smart and drove up through there and got a good result. everybody that we met was incredible.

I did meet a lot of people that mentioned you guys and knowing y'all. And just, yeah, the race was late and delayed. So we end up, this was the best part. And you appreciate this. Race ends at 2 o'clock. Everybody around us in the pits had these big fold-out tables and grills and grills and all that stuff. And so 2 o'clock, everybody's cooking.

in the morning. And so at 2.45, we're sitting there eating steaks, drinking beer. And the regular shows are running, like the four cylinders and all those guys. And they get done around 4 o'clock. We bring the trailers back in, load up the car, and at 5 o'clock we went to bed. Wow. Yeah, got up at 7.30 and drove home six out, five hours. It was just, I mean, I wouldn't change a thing about it.

Short track Saturday night racing at his best. Well, that's awesome. We'll know this since Tiff and I quit racing late models full time, which has been probably since 2010 or 11 the last time we race late models. Man, I have always followed the car store. I love what you guys are doing with that. We've been really good friends with Brennan Queen for years and years. A lot of the guys that he knows, we know.

And I think you probably ran into Phil Warren up there, local lately legend. Yeah, Phil was the first person I went, I ran five laps off the trailer. and walked straight to Phil and said, Phil, help me. How do I get around turn two? Love it. Yeah, he was awesome. We were parked beside him all weekend with his grandson, Riley, Music.

And, man, just a great group. I'd known Phil forever. Yeah. So that was just awesome, connecting with him again. Yeah, that is cool. And fun fact, so Phil's son, Anthony, he had raced for many years. So at Indy this weekend, there was two spotters for every cup team. Anthony was our second spot.

So he won the brickyard this weekend with this, which is pretty cool. Oh, man. Full circle, bring it back home. A lot of connections. A lot of connections. So that was cool to see. And yeah, I wanted to ask about your Langley experience. It's been a while since we've been there.

But I tried to follow the coverage. And when I knew the race was going to start after midnight, I had to go to bed. But I woke up the next morning and checked you guys out. So that was cool. Yep. Flo's got some highlights up for anybody that wants to see them. And we had a blast, beautiful facility. They work really hard.

The government was there. A lot of government officials. there to support the track. So they're doing really good work up there going strong. Yeah, they are. And don't understate what you guys are doing for short track racing and for late model racing. You know, like I said, Tip and I raced at all those short tracks for years and years and years and to see the strength of what you guys are doing with the cars tour and, you know, just bringing back the excitement at some of these local places, you know, Langley and Carraway and South Boston and all these places, man, it's amazing to see and it's a lot of fun, you know,

when we're at a cup race, where normally I can't always follow along great. Now I just pull flow up on my phone and I get to watch what you guys are doing. So appreciate that. It's really cool. You bet, man. Yeah, we're riding a wave. It's got a lot of momentum right now, man. So we appreciate it.

Thank you. Enjoy your vacation, bud. Tell the family we said, hey, and we appreciate them sharing you with us this morning. And we'll see at the racetrack. Awesome, man. We'll do. Thank you. Thank you.

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Yeah, GJGGD reload. For the reloaded. Yep. You know, back to the Indianapolis conversation. I appreciate him calling in and giving us an opportunity to talk to him. Cliff has done such a great job, you know, kind of building that team up around Larson. I mean, he's been at it for a while, but he's learning and he's applying, and he's really one of the fun crew chiefs to listen to because of how direct he is.

One of the things that's kind of surprised me, you know, maybe this is nothing, maybe it's something, but when I was driving, when I was racing, the driver had a lot of power in the conversation that happened over the radio, and a lot of authority. and I think that it's sort of shifted whereas the drivers the way the cars have gotten more technical more challenging to understand especially the new next-gen car

the drivers now kind of relinquished a lot of authority and there's just this full trust when you've got a driver like Larson or Chase Elliott or any of these guys really they really have to lean on that crew chief to kind of know everything going on outside of driving that car or steering the car.

And so the, you know, a guy like Cliff has to be able to step up to the plate wielding that kind of authority and power. And he does a great job. You can hear him over the radio. He's very stern. He'll tell Kyle exactly what he needs him to do. And there's a handful of crew chiefs that I've had a chance to listen to over the last couple of years that the tone of the conversation has so,

changed between driver and crew chief since the years I was driving race cars. But anyhow, we appreciate him giving us some time today. And, you know, going back to, you know, where I, you know, where I was talking about that restart, you know, I don't know what they, you know, I'm not going to ask Cliff what they should have done. He won the race. He probably thinks that, you know. Like in terms of the caution or the, oh, the caution coming out.

Yeah. Not coming. Not, I'm sorry. The restart. The restart, right? He's going to, you know, I'm not going to ask Cliff because Cliff won the race. One thing that I do not like to do,

sometimes you have to, but I don't think it was necessary in this situation, is when you bring the guy on at one, ask him about the controversial ending. You know what I mean? Because he's going to give you the, hey man, congratulations for winning the Brickyard 400.

Now, do you think it was a fair deal? What's he going to say? Right? He's going to be like, bullshit. Well, it's also, an alesan thing to do is to sit there and go, you think that was right how it ended?

He's the winner. So, we'll handle it. We'll handle it without him. I did not have a problem with how all that played out for the restart. Okay. I don't. I don't either. I mean, what else are you going to do?

I don't think they wave it off. I don't see the... No. That's car's not a wave-the-caut kind of group. No. Can you remember the last time they like waved off a yellow? Now I know they've for this, for something like this. Yeah, I know there's been times when, you know, they're coming around turn three or something and they're like, hey, they're adding a lap, right?

There's a truck on the track or, you know, there's a error or something. There's an error in a lineup or something. But that was right on top of the restart zone. They just, I think if you waved it off, you could also have a potential. potential of an accordion effect or some mistake happening by a driver not getting that information and having some damage created by some contact midfield. It's so easy on that long straightaway as the rest of the field and the backs anticipating the start for an accordion and a stack up.

And so I think I personally, if I'm in the booth in that moment, I would fear that and say, let's just let this happen. It's, you know, it's on the teams and drivers to understand how things fall into place. Now, if Larson jumped and NASCAR didn't catch that, you know, we had a little debate about that at Richmond this year with Denny and I think Truex. You know, NASCAR misses calls sometimes. Did they miss a call here? Maybe. they're all human up there.

They're bound to air at some time. I'm not going to get too upset about it. Listen, I wanted Blaney to win the race. I was hoping Ryan Blaney was going to win at Indy. So I'm not sitting here. I got some buddies am I giving me shit saying I'm a Hendrick fan boy and won't Larson to win the race or any Hendrick car, right? Golden boy.

Yeah, I was sitting there with 10 to go hoping Ryan Blaney was going to win. him a brickyard 400, you know, but it didn't work out. Now, there were a couple things, though, that if I wanted to criticize NASCAR, there was a couple of penalties, and I think Brad and Chase Elliott received these penalties. So when you exit, turn, you're on the, uh, the, the, the runoff lane. It's this little, you know, strip of asphalt that's separated from the racetrack, but right in between turns 1 and 2, it's connected to the racing surface. And a lot of drivers swing out, crossing a couple white lines to get a good

angle of attack on this runoff, you know, this exit lane through turn 2 so that they can accelerate down the back straightaway. And so this is a really common move. Very common. And some drivers are more aggressive than others in terms of how far they swing out, but it's never been a topic of conversation. But for whatever reason, and I know that NASCAR gave them some content, some explanation about what they expect the drivers and teams to do in this area before the race.

Yeah. And it really says pretty much what, you know, what we all knew, You can swing out, you can come out, you can kind of come off line and get out there a little bit close to the racetrack. It did not designate any specific line or anything that you couldn't cross. Just said the white line. Yeah, I can read you what it says. It says exiting pit road, you may swing wide beyond the white line on acceleration lane between turns one and two, stay off the racing surface. So then Chase's big contention, like, well, what's the racing surface?

Because there's two white lines. Yeah, which white line? They should have said which white line there. Yeah. Yeah. I guess, you know, I've seen so many cars go where they went or Chase did. Yeah. Larson thought he was going to get penalized. And he got, because he was following Chase and was like, oh, he stayed a little bit closer inside.

But he was like, oh, if Chase got penalized, I am too. Yeah. And then he was like, oh, I guess I guess I'm right. Even on DBC, Ty Dillon was right behind T.J's car, the six. and Ty Dillon was Brett's car, and they basically did the exact same thing. The six got penalized, Ty Dillon didn't. This is something that I have a little bit of a problem with,

is like, it's never really been something that was heavily officiated before. This sort of swinging around wide to better your angle of attack for turn two on that lane, the access lane, has been a common, common thing that drivers have done for a long time. I don't believe that it's ever been something that was strictly governed.

And so now to pop a couple drivers in the middle of the race, when others we know are probably doing and are doing the same thing, it just felt loosey-goosey. It's not a great look. And it's frustrating when you know you're being black-flagged. There's no way you're going to talk your. yourself out of this, talk your way out of this. When NASCAR, you know, rarely do they admit fault or mistake in those situations?

Nope. Nope. But you saw or you know that you're not the only one doing this. And you know that this has been a common thing that's been done at this area. It's been a few years since we've raced the Oval. A little bit of maybe some turnover up in the booth. Some different opinions about how things go or should go on the racetrack. some different perceptions.

And that's the challenge. It's like, that's the frustration, I think, is this is not consistent. I don't know. I mean, it is what it is. It's over and done. I mean, Brad Still was in position to win this race, albeit on some bad, you know, bad terrible fuel strategy. It almost one of them.

Admittedly, yeah. The nine was able to read. bound. God, he was fired up on the radio. Yeah, I've never heard Chase Elliott like that before I feel like on the radio. Yeah, and he had every right to be. This was just not a great decision or a great call because, um, but this wasn't a great call because it, it wasn't, it wasn't really well defined in my opinion beforehand. Should drivers have asked some questions in the driver's meeting or what have you, maybe? Um, but, they all felt like that they were doing what they've always done

and had done for decades at this racetrack. Jeff Gluck tweeted a video for the last brickyard and it's Joey Lugano doing the exact same thing that Chase did and I don't think there's a penalty. Well, he said it was being enforced this year. Yeah, right, yeah, being enforced today. But the verbiage isn't extremely clear. I feel like this was avoidable.

This was avoidable. You could say, do not cross a line if you want to keep people off the track. Right. In my opinion, if we have, say there's a dozen cars that are doing it, you can't bust two guys and not the other. It's got to be everyone or nobody. You've got to start. What I believe, I don't know if this is effective or not, maybe this is why, maybe it's not effective and that's why NASCAR doesn't do it this way. But I believe you've got to warn the drivers.

Oh, so don't penalize the first time. Like, hey, NASCAR's warning. The 6 and a 9 should have gotten a warning. and said specifically that last white line is the one we do not want you to cross, so stop. Next one will be a penalty.

That's the, that, if I'm in the car, I feel like that's fair. Because then that, that'll at least be related to other teams of like, hey, NASCAR just gave the nine a warning,

do not do this because they just made it clear. Yes. What? Maybe, I mean, you know, maybe there were some warnings. What penalties? deserve warnings and what penalties deserve

like... You want to go through the whole rule book? I'm not saying the whole rulebook but like I'm just saying like what kind of question is that? I'm just saying is like if NASCAR does that are there certain instances where it's like well I would have loved a warning like does that open the floodgates of like... No? No? No because

they never... No. Because if you're not I guess do you think that their direction before the race and the pamphlet or the sheet was clear. I mean, looking at the video, no, it wasn't very clear. Not the video. Did they show, even the rule? Did they put it? Did they give out this sheet and the video? I think that, yeah, they showed drivers of video in the, Bob Pockers tweeted a video of what they showed drivers. And even that, I think it cut off before it even showed you where the problem

spot was. And then Dalton read the rule book. It's like, okay, that's a little vague, which white line, what's the racing surface? Well, but then, but then you hear Denny and Denny was like, I knew exactly where to go. Like yesterday on the spot, he's, he's, like, he's, like I had no issues knowing where I needed to be and I had no problems. But then I just don't understand how there's this much discrepancy. So if it's me and I'm NASCAR, which I'm not, but I would be like, no one's crossing the line. No one. Maybe Denny paid attention better.

Maybe some of the other guys are like, ah, this has never been a problem. They are listening. They're watching. They're in the driver's meeting when this is being discussed. But they're like, you know, they have 20 years of how they've done. it in their brain. They know how to. And they're like, yeah.

Of course they don't want us going out into the groove, right? Of course they don't want us going out onto the racetrack. I don't feel like where I've been going is on the racetrack. And I feel like that's been perfectly fine. Right. I don't know. I just feel like that they could have been, they didn't, it wasn't necessary. I don't believe, to penalize those guys.

I don't think it was a big advantage that they gained. I think you could have told them, hey, man, stop that. next one's a penalty that's what I would have done I think that's fair yeah I know we were talking about the caution call before Cliff called in

but like what's your official like did NASCAR make the right call of not throwing the yellow until they took the white I think that the race was over that doesn't answer the question yeah what was that I don't care I didn't I didn't

so this was a there is no right there is no right answer to this. What's your opinion? I didn't care. You didn't care? Nope. When it happened, didn't care. I thought it was a big deal. I know. I know. My phone lit up. I'm in the middle, you know, I'm in a bunch of text messages,

group text messages with industry people, buddies that you're just race fans. Everybody that I talked to was up in arms. This is awful. I'm never watching again. Oh yeah. Really? Very upset. Not going to watch. Angry.

This ruined the sports for them. This is why I hate this. I wasn't that extreme. Wait, there were many people very, very angry about this. Okay. Right. You had multiple things going on at the same time that we're building this ramp of frustration, right? The race went off network TV or went off NBC because of some breaking news, right?

It goes to who knows where. USA, it's not that hard to find. These people are just ridiculous. I mean, it's unbelievable. Hey, let me be honest with you. I'm sitting there watching the freaking race. All right. I turn and look away for five seconds and the race is gone.

And I didn't hear where the hell it went. Could you have taken a guess? Yes, I did. Okay. All right. So I took a guess and my second guess was right. What was your first? But, I mean, if you go to the guide, it's not like, hey, the race is here now.

Yeah, you had to click law and order. The guide is telling you some other. And so, you know, there are people that are like, way, the race is gone entirely. And, you know, so there's, it was just not. Definitely was an ideal situation. Ideal. Absolutely not ideal situation. All right. But it all got shaken out fine.

Everybody ended up fine in the race, I think. See, that didn't matter to you. No, right? Not even a minute. It was just a bit annoying. I'll give you that. All right. So then all of the things that happened in the race happened.

So now you're already ticked a little bit about the dang network moving the race. And then you're going to, you know, you're going to get mad about how you thought the race should have happened differently. But I'm sitting there finally. I'm panicking trying to get to the right channel because I know the race is. They end of freaking, I won't miss anything. It's happening right and left, right? Even under caution. And so I get over there and I'm watching it happen.

And I see priests. And I'm like, damn. they ought to throw the yellow here. And they didn't. And I was like, eh, it was over anyways. But, oh man, a caution would have changed everything. I feel like people were close on fuel. There's another restart.

That's a big deal. The five didn't have a fuel problem. He was going to win that race. Did you see the launch that everybody was getting with the next gen in the five gears? Denny and all those guys that were control car on the inside were like, free and clear before the flag stand. No, no, no real battles going down into term one. And so, I mean, I'm thinking in my mind, the five's, the fastest car out there,

he is now, he's won the race. If we have another restart, he's just going to jump in the league, go into term one and drive, they can't, they've talked all day long how they couldn't pass. The nine gets, you know, the penalty and, oh, well, we're screwed, can't pass the car, figure something out. I can't pass them out here. So, I mean, in my mind, I'm, listen,

let me be clear. As I'm watching it, I'm like, wow, I can't, I kind of can't believe they're not throwing a yellow because they had enough time in my mind. 30 seconds. To realize that the 41 wasn't going to move. And so as they cross the white,

my thoughts then are they're going to have to throw the yellow. This won't get they won't race to the checker the 41's there they're going to have to throw a yellow it's yellow's a yellow flag is coming because they're coming closer and closer to turn two where there's a car on the racetrack but the yellow comes out my phone lights up with all my buddies and even friends in the industry going this that was atrocious how the hell that happened why did they let it happen that way i didn't have that reaction i was surprised i was surprised that i was surprised that I was on this other side.

My friends are like, I was like, man, I didn't really care. I mean, I, you know, I could have taken a caution. Or no, race is over. I'm fine with that either. Either way. So you're fine with it because you think Larson would have won regardless, like a caution wouldn't have changed anything.

I didn't think. But like, okay, yeah, go ahead. I didn't think a caution would change anything, and I didn't think I was going to see. anything extraordinary if the caution comes out, and I had already had enough. From a safety, from a safety call, like, does that surprise you at all? Like the caution, they were still flying as a kid by priest. I mean, they threw the caution, what, in like the middle one and two?

They're still going 150 miles an hour down the back straight away. I mean, they're slowing down, but that's still fast, you know? I don't know. I think it's all right. Nothing jumped off the page. I'm sorry. Nothing about this pissed me off. I usually am pretty pissed off when things are...

Even just the consistency... Andrew. Fact. Nothing about... I didn't care. I'm just trying to get in your head here. If they... Okay, but hear me out.

Okay, if we all knew, which we all did, that they were going to have to throw a caution at some point, why not throw it as soon as you know it's going to be a caution? Why wait until he gets even close to the finish line? It's not like we were close on. daylight or weather was coming in. I hear you. You already changed the damn channel.

It's, it doesn't, TV is obviously not mattering at this point. Right, exactly. My, I hesitate to say this because, I don't know, I don't want it to be interpreted the wrong way, but man, I was, I was, I had enough, I was pushing back from the table. I had ate plenty of, of, you know, brickyard. Yeah, brickyard 400. I was fine. I was like, all right, racing.

is over, man, I'm good. Moving on. Even from a calling things consistently. Was the race good? It was... Like that. Don't... Don't what.

Was the race good? It was... How many races have we had where the race sucked, but the ending could have been really good? The brickyard... Listen, man, the brickyard Indianapolis is an insanely cool historic racetrack. Cool shit. Really, really cool shit has happened there. And it's history and how, you know, what it went through during the Second World War and almost becoming nothing, you know, almost being wiped off the map at one point. I mean, it's just a really cool history there. But it is not a place I would go take.

It isn't that great of a racetrack for stock cars. I don't know how else to say it because I do not want to insult the racetrack or anything about its legacy. but it's a one groove track. They will never be another, they'll never be an outside groove there because it's 90 degree turns and the best way through those turns is in the bottom groove.

And it's always going to be only, only about the prestige of the event and the location and the track itself. And so the actual racing product isn't as exciting to me, as it might have been somewhere else. If we were racing in another racetrack, I may be on your side with this.

If it was Michigan. Yeah. I'd be like, oh man, another restart. I want more racing. But I did not want more racing at the end of that race. Now you're sounding inconsistent here with the...

I am. I feel like I'm saying the same this whole fucking time I've been in this room. I... Well, track to track, right? Because it's like... Listen, so... So how NASCAR officiates it doesn't...

official, I'm watching on my couch at home with my own opinion. And this is it. If I was at another race, I would have probably been like, oh man, why didn't they throw the yellow? But I had had, I didn't want. I'll give you that. I mean, I do agree with that because to me, the best part of the whole race was watching Larson come through the field and trying to challenge for, like, I was bummed that the finish was taken that we could have had of the strategies lining up. and Kozlowski's are run out of gas and Blaney might not make it,

but Larson's flying. So I'm like, for me, entertainment be damned. I just want to see if that's a caution, no matter if it's with two to go or in lap five, call the same thing. I have a list of cautions that were called. I want to get to that list. That is a great argument.

And I'll stand by that argument. Like if that's a caution on lap two, it should be a caution on lap, you know, the last lap of the race. A caution. is a caution no matter of the moment. We can agree on that.

I can agree on that. I'm not saying that's, I'm not saying that how it played out how it should have played out. I'm not saying that. If they throw the yellow, great.

They didn't throw the yellow, fine. I didn't care because I had had enough of that race. Okay. All right? I think it's incredible to win there.

I think it's a hell of a thing to have on your resume. India is freaking amazing. But something about the race product just doesn't check all my boxes. And so I wasn't sitting there going, man, damn it, I got robbed. I just was like, whatever, it's over.

Now, if we go to another track where I really love the racing product, of course I want more racing. I don't know how else to say it. And it's flawed. My opinion is flawed. It's just my opinion. I'm not going to hide.

I'm not going to run, you know, I'm not going to bullshit you. My opinion is probably likely flawed and inconsistent. Fine. But I will agree that if that's a yellow on lap two, which it is, probably before the leader gets through term four. Right. It's a yellow every time. Yeah, I mean, this has happened. I think I got what I wanted out of that.

This has happened multiple times. I mean, Nashville coming to the white, Cendrick Spins doesn't hit a wall, immediate immediate caution. In the OT at Nashville, OT number two, Joey's coming to the white, I mean coming off a turn four, Josh Barry spins hits the wall, caution comes out immediately. He keeps rolling too. Yeah, keeps rolling.

Kansas. Kyle Busch spins coming off turn two, doesn't hit anyone, gets going, immediate caution with four laps to go. Richmond, Kyle Busch taps the wall, keeps rolling, caution immediately. Booth didn't even know why it was a caution at Richmond. Not a right front or a break issue. Maybe that's why the caution. Like, oh, but, but

priests can't move, hits the wall, they're going to be going 150 miles an hour past him nothing we're just going to wait we're just going to wait until Kyle Larson hits the and I'm I have my own conspiracy theories on it but about Golden Boy I don't want to call him Golden Boy because I don't think that's fair he raced his ass off he got to the front Cliff Daniels had a hell of a strategy but you have

it's going to be hard to convince me that if any other car is leading that race really oh yeah oh yeah if Daniel Suarez is leading that race they throw the caution bullshit man Are you kidding me? Yes. It all worked out too perfectly. It's at Indy.

Like, Larson's running the same damn paint scheme as he was before. He gets, what? He doesn't get his win. The Hendrick, the, the, the, the, the double. Like the double paint scheme. But that didn't go that well? There's so many, there's so many things. If he'd won the Indy 500 in that indie car, then maybe I could get on this wagon with you, but.

There's so many things that happened. What are the other things? Like the restart. him not getting penalized. He just talked about the restart. Him not getting penalized for going over the white line. There were so many little things that happened

and then all of a sudden it's like, well, we'll just let him cross the line and throw the caution. Again, I don't take anything away from Larson. He raced his ass off. He's the best driver to hold a steering wheel right now. But I would be hard pressed. If AJ Almondinger was leading that race, I think they throw that caution.

They would have thrown it for AJ. I'm just saying. Not Daniel Suarez. Okay, maybe not. Okay. Swares is a bad example. No. But yeah. if, if, I don't know,

if Kaz Grawl is leading that race, that's throwing that yellow. That's what I'm saying. Oh yeah. Like, tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. You're right, you're right. I would put, I don't know.

This is so much fun to watch. Okay. I would say, all right, caution or no caution? Name a driver. This is funny. Ross Chastain. No caution. No caution. Chris Busher.

No caution. Christopher Bell. No caution. Danny Hamlin. No caution. Chase Elliott. No caution. Really?

That's the only other one. Keep going. Bubba. No caution. Tyler Redic. Maybe a caution. Blaney. No caution.

Joe Legano. No caution. Austin Sindry. I'm sorry. Let me say that again without laughing. Austin Sindry. Oh, my God. Kyle Bush.

Kyle Busch. I don't know, man. He needs a win. NASCAR needs a win. This game isn't as fun as I thought of it. SVG. Oh, no way they're throwing them. SVG wins.

So they would throw the caution No, they'd throw the checker to lap early Yeah All of a sudden Whoops Whoops, I got the wrong flag out All of a sudden it's a timed race Yeah

Yes Time is expired Oh my God As soon as he takes the lead We're in the middle Green flag pit stops That's all I'm saying And all I'm saying

Really is Is that I think there was A bit of hesitation In the booth Knowing that Larson's out front And his beautiful Special little paint scheme About the double

and all the waiver and the controversy and all that crap, I think there was eight seconds of hesitation for them to go, we'll just call it. Yeah. Well, I think the booth has got a lot of criticism. You know, and particularly over the past probably two or three years, there's been some moments, you know. So, you know, maybe that's something to keep an eye on.

I mean, this is, It's frustrating, I know, but I mean, as long as they're human beings up there making these decisions, everybody's going to have their own opinion about it. And this isn't other forms of motorsport on immune to these scenarios. I've got a question for you. This is kind of shifting gears. I want to tie it back to last week. I know we were talking about, like, the seatbelt stuff.

I have a few more questions for you. Tims, I think you got a clip for anyone who missed it. He had his winning it down, his belts off or his belts loose? I feel like a lot of drivers do. that, though. No, they don't. Nobody unbuckles before they come to a complete stop in the pits to get the hell out. You're a complete moron

if you undo your belts in a moving race car. At any point, a complete idiot. That is, you've got to stop it. You've got to admit that. You're a dumbass if you undo your belts in a moving car. Hey, I totally agree.

You are a dumbass. Oh, Jesus. He's going to have a picture of me. your belts in the car. Look at this. Look at what you're doing right here. That's a seatbelt coming off. There's a seatbelt on. That's the same car.

Okay, fine. You want another example? This is Talladega. These are all wins. Okay, fine. I'll show you ones. I'm so glad you brought that up. That's another win.

Okay, great. This is a dual race. You're coming to pit road. You're taking your helmet and your seatbelt off. You've got to be a dumb ass to do that. Jeez. A complete moron. Here's another one.

Another one. Another win. There's no seat. That's, but this is the cool down lap. This is a cool down. There's a car right there. Okay, so did Bowman.

He took his seatbelt off. No, he didn't. He didn't. Okay, maybe he didn't. Nope. He's not a dumb ass. You are. All right.

He's been so excited. I had to get that off my chest. He's been all, all week it's been, look at this picture. Look at this. Unbelievable. Look at him.

Seat belt my ass. I'm the only. car on the track in that moment. There's a few other examples. Yeah. This here, you're not. You're coming to pit road. This is after a duel.

You might have won this, but still. I'm done celebrated, hung out on the front straightway. All the other cars are in the garage. No, you're going straight to pit road. All right. Again, we're going to talk about my Langley race

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Can I hire you to unsubscribe from my 7,000? Yeah, that'd be awesome. Unsubscribing from emails is kind of like building a Lego set. It's just brick by brick. Yeah. I don't know. I'd rather build Legos and let's subscribe from emails. I would too, but it's kind of like that.

It's like satisfying. It's a kin to it. Yeah. It's similar. They're cousins. Nice vocab word. Yeah. I didn't say it's better.

It's akin. Yeah. It's similar to it. To where I'm nicely done. Yeah. I would like, I mean, you build a Lego thing and you're like, okay, that was fun. And I spend some time. It's good for my brain.

You know, unsubscribing from me, could be therapeutic. You ever, you know? Could be. Yeah. I ought to try that. Yeah. I mean, that's my therapy.

We sit on YouTube and watch people build things and, you know, watch things happen. And you're like, same thing. Man, I can't look away. That's kind of neat. But in the end, what do you have? Nothing. Less emails. I might start doing that.

There might be a market for that, just recording myself on subscribing from emails and putting it on YouTube. I don't know that that would be done what. Dawton, you're our social media. you guy? That was your idea. I got this great idea, guys. I'm just saying. It's going to get so many likes and engagement.

I'm just saying there's a lot of things we do that are really pointless. Yeah. But it's like satisfying. But satisfying. It's exactly. Pointless, completely pointless, but also satisfying.

And knowing that I'm getting rid of all these emails for you and your inbox will be cleaner is satisfied. Yeah. It's like clean in the house, you know, spring cleaning. I clean my emails all the time.

just search Andrew and delete and complete. Yep, I'm good. Most people do. I leave his unread. They just sit in my inbox. Somehow that's like worse. I noted it. I'm just not reading it. It's in there. I'm going to address. I got 10 emails. For like four months. I'm going to address the next email like urgent. Open now. Open now. It's just going to be one of the pictures of his seatbelts. Whatever. All right. Yeah, this is Asch Jr. presented by Xfinity Mobile, believe it or not.

This is Asch Jr. presented by Xfinity Mobile, the fastest mobile service, 5G all over the country, millions of hot spots, nationwide coverage. If you're in a jam, switch over to Xfinity Mobile. All right, let's get these questions. Yes, hold on. This first one is from Casey Waller on Facebook asking, you know, you talked last week about, you know, playing the N. the AA football game. You're going to be Charlotte. Are you team Xbox or PlayStation? Xbox.

And how is the dynasty? Hadn't touched it. You haven't touched it yet. Man, I've been busy. I was going racing in Langley. I should have took that with me because I had time in Langley to mess with it, but yeah, all my friends are like, let's play tonight, let's play some ins-I'm like, I don't even have it going yet.

I haven't purchased it. Charlotte Football jumped all over our post about it. They loved it. Let me tell you. see the graphic they made that you committed to you're committed to charlott let me tell you oh yeah if i say i'm going to do something i'm going to do it but it's okay it's going to be a while okay so we'll check back in with you tomorrow yeah yeah i'm going to stay on you i'm going to send you an email about it okay like to read it like the titanic Lego set it's sitting down in

south carolina you're going to do it though hadn't touched it since the last time you saw it But I'll get it done. Yeah. That's the kind of got it. Slow and steady wins the race. You know. I just got stuff going on, man. Got time.

Clearing emails. That's what you're doing. You could be playing football. I've been messing with my houseboat. When I get any free time, me time. Yeah? I've been working on my old house. What's you doing?

Just getting it, we put new carpet in it and just getting it ready to go on, to go out on. How far are you from set and sale? A couple weeks, I think. Yeah. But, yeah. Does the boat have a name? I was just about to ask that. When we bought it, it was final draft.

That kind of works. We're going to change that. You don't know yet? No. To bump draft? All right. No. I'm going to ask the chat.

What are names for Dale's houseboat? I'll read you some. Amy, we had a name. We talked about it. I forgot what it was, but I liked it. So whatever that was. Okay. This next question is coming from Steve.

How fun was the Nickelback Rockstar video? Oh, man. Lots of fun. That's going back. I still see it. I feel like everybody's got a song called Rockstar. Sorry. Just keep going on.

Yeah. I, you know, those were the days. That was mid, you know, that was Peak Budweiser, number eight. We're running well. We're in other music videos. We did three doors down. So, I mean, we were having a lot of fun. And that, they were big back then.

And the list of other people that were in that video. Like to be not, you know, when we did three doors down, it was me and Stewart. That was fun. But this video was going to have a lot of other people in it that were pop star, pop culture, you know. So I don't know, I had fun. And I got to shoot it right there on my property.

Pretty easy. Yeah. And, yeah, it ended up being a popular song. That was, I mean, it was easy. It took 15 minutes to shoot my little spot. That's it? Really? Yeah, I mean, they just had me read, sing a couple lyrics,

just this little block of lyrics, and we were done. I was like, wow, okay. Do you remember your block of lyrics? Nope. But you can watch the video. I'll go watch it. There's a lot of stats about Nickelback that are surprising. They're like the sixth highest grossing touring musical act of all time.

They got a documentary or something on Netflix. I watched part of it. I haven't finished it yet, but I started watching it because I was like, oh, well, you know, see what their story is. You might have made a cameo in there for like a half a second. I've got one boat name from the YouTube chat. People are sending them in. These are good, but this one's, I think, my favorite.

V-T-E-C and it's Sale Earnhardt Jr. Come on now. I'm sorry that is bad. All right, we got time for one more question here. This one's coming from Danny. And, you know, I feel like you get asked all these different questions.

Danny just wants to know, like, how'd you pick the glasses that you're wearing? They're spies. I mean, I got a spy deal. and so that's Dale how'd you pick the shirt you're wearing so you just go in your Hey sometimes the question's like hey what's your phone

wallpaper we talk for 20 minutes Maybe you got a good story I picked this shirt because we're going to run Florence later this This year I'm going to run Florence in like a month and a half or so All right I got another I got another question I'm driving the sun drop cars

So that's why I'm wearing my sundrop colors today I just felt like it Spy I've been with Spy sunglasses for a lot long time and um i mean you remember back when wraparounds were the the ticket yeah now they're not the ticket anymore um they're coming back are they oh yeah people are finding like old oakley's and stuff like that well yeah i mean but it's just those yeah those big wraparas so um i don't know i'm i've always wore spy and spy makes a frame for you know these type of glasses and i like to be loyal

because they've been great to me and so yeah. They'll look good. All right. Nice. This is a good question. I can ask one more question. You want one more question?

Yeah, let's go one more. Chris from the YouTube chat, do you have any, like, what's the next project car you're looking to do? Oh, man, I mean, I don't want anymore. You've got too many? Yeah. Already on your plate.

I'm not looking for projects. Projects just sort of find you. And if it was up to me, I wouldn't, I would, if it was up to me, I'd sell all my cars and just, like, have one vehicle. And I like to just simplify as much as possible, but you don't, sometimes you don't get to choose the cars. The cars choose you. And so, you know, one day you might wake up and somebody's got an old car that your grandfather owned or your dad raced or whatever.

And you're like, all right, here we go. we're going to fix we're going to get this and fix it and so that's just kind of how it happens I'm in the middle of restoring an old late model stock car that I raced it's sitting in the back of the shop over here and it's not really got a lot there's not a lot going on with it right now the teams are real busy and so the guys were helping me with the body and so forth but there's not much going on there thinking about moving it over to my late model shop where those guys might be able to tune on it a little bit. But that'll eventually get done at some point.

I've got a Nova Wagon, 66 Nova Wagon. I'm pretty excited about. Church Boys have been messing with that, wiring it for me and getting it plumbed so it'll run. I did a little work on it. The shop here did a little work on it. And the church boys guys, they work on Nova's. They've been working on it pretty hard for me for a couple months.

and I think that's it. I'm always kind of messing with my other stuff, my other cars and things. Like we took the camper and the truck to Langley, and, you know, when it comes back, I washed it with Kenny, he's my retired bus driver. Wash that thing, put it away, put it back in the shop and put the slides out and get all the, you know, the sheets and everything ready for washed and got the sheets washed and the towels washed and all that back in there and ready for the next

trip. I think Florence, when we race the late mile car down there for the car store. Nice. Yeah. Good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. I appreciate it, man.

Great ass junior. Appreciate everybody tuning in. We got a great show for you today. Dirty air is a lot of fun. And tomorrow, we got a pretty cool guest coming in here. Donnie Reeves is going to be my guest. And he was the best man in my dad's wedding with Teresa,

really, really close friend to my dad's. He's not the kind of guy that does interviews, talks about his relationship with dad and some of the things they did together. So a lot of the stories that he has, I've never heard, and I'm sure you haven't either. So I'm excited to get him on the show and talk to Donnie. Dad, you know, Donny on dirt cars and ran local dirt tracks and so forth.

And so it'll be kind of around that. But it should be a lot of fun. And that'll come out tomorrow. So hopefully y'all will tune in for that as well. Some cool stories that none of us probably really ever heard. All right. It's time for Dirty Mo Doe with Alex Thames. So far, you know, we had a, we'll talk about En.

and some of the bets that you made, some of the things that worked, and then now what are you going to do for two weeks with no racing? What bets worked out for you and what bets got, went in the tank? Well, I was sitting pretty good, at the end of regulation, I guess, with Blaney sitting there at second, and then I had Hamlin as well to win.

But once Larson passed Hamlin, he was kind of out. But I thought Pliny was going to get him. He was holding off Larson. Kyle Busch caution screwed that, and then it all went haywire from there. but I did win a frose bet with Steve LaTart by Redick beating Chase Elliott head to head. So that was a good win.

There you go. The predictor went five for ten. Yeah, five for ten. That also got pretty screwed by the late-race caution. Well, five to ten, I guess you kind of made your money back. Yeah, yes and no. Yeah. I have to do the math, but I don't think so.

I think if the caution didn't come out, they probably would have won a lot. Right on. So a frosei. from like this place in Charlotte called Co-op that makes some great Froeseics. Co-op is amazing. They have one down by where we are, yeah.

It's a very good food. Their tuna sandwich is 10 out of 10. Really? Oh yes. I haven't I tried the food yet. I don't try I mean everything else is great but the tuna I get it every time. All right. I have to get that. Their food is great.

I haven't had their food yet. Just the frozen egg. That's all I make it to. Yeah. Oh, their food is really, really good. Yeah. Yeah, co-op. Can't say enough about them. That's why you see how to bet with it. I'm surprised to even hear that come up today.

We eat there all the time. Really? Yeah. So, you know, with racing going away for a couple weeks, so you're going to dive into the Olympics. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Dirty Modo will be going live on YouTube,

on our YouTube, Dirty Modo's. So subscribe and hit the notification bell. So, you know, when we're going live, Tampa Tims and Friends are going to be watching, probably the popular sports like track, swimming, beach volleyball. Where will you be physically? We'll be up in the office as Dirty Moe with the ticker, the TV's going to have,

if we have a four screen right there. We'll have multiple stuff going on if it's... What days are you doing this? We're going to try every day. This is a popular sport going on. Starting when? Next week. No shit.

Next week for a whole two weeks. Goodness. Monday? Monday. All right. Yeah. I think I'm in town. Come through?

Yeah, I might need to. So what are the sports, I guess, that you're most looking forward to? I'm looking forward to swimming track. It's just eight people going right with each other. I think it's exciting. I'm a big beach volleyball person. That's for betting-wise, too. I'm very excited to bet on that.

Never bet it on volleyball or beach volleyball, but that should be really fun. There's a former NBA player that's in the men's bracket. Really? So that's really fun. Yeah. Yeah, Chase Budinger. So that's really fun to watch him. I think he'll be playing Monday.

So we watch him. that. Yeah. I mean, that'll, you know, when I would assume, I guess, when the Olympics come around, it's a very opportune time for betters and sports gambling, such as, you know, tournament style, sports like March Madness and all that. There's some really great opportunity there if you kind of know who to follow or who to pay attention to. So I'll be interested to learn, I guess, what ends up being some of your favorite bets. We talk about Major League Baseball and some of the bets that we like to make. Yeah.

Like no hit in the first inning and stuff like that. Yeah, like some prop bets and stuff. Or no runs in the first thing. Yeah, some stuff like that. So it'll be interesting to see what you learn in this process going through. My first Olympics, so I'm excited to see what kind of bets they offer and not just, you know, the straight head to heads, maybe just some props. So it should be fun. I'll dive in.

I might actually come be on your little live cast. You should. I'm going out of town during next week, but I'm not sure exactly when, so I might be able to come in on the front end Monday or something. That sounds good. All right, see you, Tim's. See you.

All right, it's time for the white flag. As we wrap up this Tuesday show, the tear down with Jeff Gluck and George and Bianchi dropped Sunday night after Indy. You'll want to check in and see what their opinions were about everything that went down. You know, they're coming right off of the race, full of emotion.

And then Monday, you have actions detrimental with Denny Hamlin. And he, you know, he's going to talk about his opinions around all the things that happened in the race several hours after cooling down a little bit. And then doorbubber clear, those guys come in Monday morning, amped up. I watched some of the clips in some of their opinions, very opinion, you know, they had some hot takes about what they thought went down at Indianapolis. TJ was fired up. Oh, yeah. We had to call in. I think he's on vacation.

Yep. Still had to, yeah. Well, and then, you know, we have dirty air that you're listening to now with our thoughts a couple days later. Tomorrow's Speed Street with Connor Daly and Chase Holden. Connor raced at Brickyard this past weekend, finishing 14th in the Xfinity race, and he did a great job. Donnie Reeves, who I mentioned in Ash Jr., is the guest, interview this week. A great friend of my dad's, the best man in his wedding. Donnie does not do interviews, so these will be a lot of, I'm excited to sit down with him

because there'll be a lot of stories that I can't wait to hear. DJD Reloaded will drop Thursday. I plan to be on that show. So you might want to tune in to DJD Reloaded, so we're going to cover a lot of what happened at Langley this past weekend with the late model stock car. And the dirty mo do guys are going to take the week off, to the lack of racing this weekend, but again, next week there'll be a lot of live YouTube opportunities and shows with Dirty Mo Doe,

and Tampa Tim's covered that earlier in the show. So the Dirty Mo Summer Games are coming as well. All right. So Andrew Dalton, can you both tell us about what the Dirty Mo Summer Games is? Yeah, we competed in a series of events that, I mean, some crazy ones, like scavenger hunt through the race car graveyard, apple bobbing,

Hot Wings Challenge, and, well, we've got the big finale tonight, school bus racing at Charlotte Motor Speedway. It was nuts. It took everything out of me. I couldn't recover for almost a day afterwards. It was a fun time. Yeah. We just saw the trailer for it with a little bit of the clips, and it's hilarious.

Yeah, so stay tuned for that. It's going to be super entertaining, obviously, you know, with the summer games going to going on. In Paris, we had to have our very own summer games. Absolutely. Dalton, you have a weekly social media standout. I do. Yeah. Last week, we talked to Ryan Blaney and, you know, we mentioned his sponsor, Wabash. And someone commented, I think it was on Instagram, Jeff Hartz, said, it's also a drink in Tamakua, Pennsylvania. I hope I'm pronouncing that, right? It's iced tea, lemonade and vodka, because it looks like the shi-crick, the Wabash. Is what he said. He said crick, literally spelled a crick.

But I figured, you know, iced tea, lemonade vodka, a little high rock moment. We need to make a Wabash. All right, so we have the question of the week. Yes, and that's been a lot of fun. It's from the guy who caused all the controversy, even though it wasn't really his fault, Ryan Priest, this week. Hey, Dale, do you still play Clash of Clans?

That's it. Short and sweet. It's been a long time since I played Clash. of clans they got me they got me for a few a few hundred um fun game i even had like i got they sent me stickers we were sticking those damn stickers everywhere hell yeah so i was i had my i had my place down in key west back then and man key west is a sticker town you walk up down the street bear carry a pocket of stickers and you're gonna have a good time There's all the road signs, all the, everything on the side of the road,

sticker bombed. And you go to all the bars and there's stickers everywhere and you can add whatever it is that you want to add. And so I would take, we had a big old bag of Clash of Clans stuff that they sent to us and a bunch of stickers. So we stuck Clash of Clan stickers everywhere in QS. And so, you know, the little numbers that the cup teams put on their wheels, I got a crap ton of those little 88s and stuck them all over town.

You think they're still there? Some of them probably is. Hey, if anybody sees them, if you go down there, send us a picture. Send us a picture of one of the 88s. So, yeah, that's fun. I mean, if you're in a town like that, you've got to carry around a bunch of stickers in your pocket. So you can, you know, if you got anything that you're, you know, anything.

You're a fan of. Right. Right. Yeah. Go shout them out. That's right. All right, good times, good show. Appreciate you guys, and we'll talk to you tomorrow.

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