The Dale Jr. Download - 567 - The Austin Dillon/Richmond Controversy Reaction Show

Episode Date: August 13, 2024

Dale Earnhardt Jr. returns to the Dirty Mo Studio to react to the highly controversial NASCAR Cup race finish at Richmond on this episode of Dirty Air. As the racing world awaits NASCAR’s weekly penalty report, Dale weighs in with this take on the issues:Ricky Stenhouse sets up calamitous endingWas Austin Dillon’s bump on Joey Logano against the driver code?Did Austin Dillon intentionally get into Denny Hamlin?What will the NASCAR penalty report say?Race winner Austin Dillon joins the showThe Goodyear soft tire worked! 21+ and present in North Carolina. Opt in req. Wager requirements apply. Bonuses awarded as nonwithdrawable bonus bets or profit boost tokens. Restrictions apply including bonus expiration. See terms and conditions at fanduel.com/sportsbook. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download this Tuesday, it's Dirty Air, and the winner of the race in Richmond. Austin Dillon's going to call in and talk about all the controversy. We're going to cover it all. Let's get started. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. You're a Dale. You're a complete moron if you undo your belt in a moving race car. Moron. He tends to hide the weird stuff in our time. Bringing Amy on was a bad idea. This is great. The Dell Jr. download starts now.

All right, so we're back in the Dirty Mo Media Studio, and it's Dale Jr. Andrew Dalton. Alex Tim's back there in the corner. Let's get right to it, man. There's a controversial finish, obviously, with Austin Dillon if you've been living under a rock. I think you probably still heard about this. Austin, Rex, Joey Logano, and Danny Hamlin

in the final turn to win at Richmond, locks himself into the playoffs. Joe Legano says he's a piece of crap. He sucks. He sucks his whole career. Joey was so mad. Joey, did you see his in-car footage? Yikes.

Didn't look good. No, not at all. Yeah, I mean, a lot going on there. Let's dial it back just a couple moments. Austin has an incredibly fast race car. He's ran good at Richmond before, right? So, like, I want to ask him when he calls in here in a bit. where the speed come from. RCR's been beat up this year because of the performance of Kyle Busch.

They're under a ton of pressure. They had a little bit of a, they had a, you know, Petri leaves in the middle of the season. Not a lot was made about that. Maybe it wasn't anything. Maybe it was just Petrie saying, I'm going to do something different. I'm just saying that RCR's had a tough year. And they've been under a ton of pressure. A couple things that I'm going to see if we can learn a little bit about when we talk to Austin is, where did the speed come from for this weekend? Because, all right, regardless, controversial wreck aside, he had the best car. Yeah. What?

He's run, he's 32nd in points. That's like, honestly, man, that's like a front row showing up and being the best car. that's like you know front row runs okay they have their moments but they are never the fastest car on the racetrack at Richmond I mean they this is a

not even a mid-packed team that had the best car and clearly was going to win the race we go down and with two laps to go Ricky Stenhouse and priests go down to turn one they're not even racing for position

Ricky Stenhouse if you watch that replay you can see getting down into the corner ricky stinthouse gets loose i mean quite a ways before he gets the priest like he's out of control heading into term one he really he really is and so he's probably i can see i can see ricky stenthouse inside his car in sheer terror about because he knows i'm about to hit this man and i'm out of control there's nothing i can do about it i'm busting ass right and so his car hops sideways and he starts trying to correct into this and right into the 41 so hard that it breaks the right front on his car he goes freaking right into the fence it was a crazy right in front of the leader too yeah right in front of austin bill and this is a this was a this was a this was

one of them moments it's like cindrick at nashville yes right and we gave him a hard time but cindricks probably like, hey, where's the tweet? Where's the hard time? It's coming. It's coming. Where's the hard time for Stenthouse here? Ricky Stenthouse. I like Ricky a lot. He is one cool-ass dude, but Ricky, you messed up. So, Austin's going to go win this race. All right, so we've got to put tons of responsibility for all the shit.

We got after this on Ricky Stenhouse. Sorry, Ricky. It's just the way it's going to be today. We get a restart And if you go back to, I think the last time we raced at Richmond Earlier this year, we had a late caution And we had a controversial restart With Truex and Denny And I was thinking about that

And what I'm going to say is that It's hard to get an advantage At least at Richmond in that restart zone It is hard for the control car to really get a clear advantage and launch. And what I mean by that is like if you watched Indianapolis race and Denny and some of them guys that were the control car, they could launch an almost clear second place before they got to turn one.

They had all of these options and could get down in the corner and there was really no threat of being raced down in the corner and losing the lead or anything like that. but and so that's what you want as the control car but at Richmond you're you're not really in a place where you can do anything creatively you know that the guys behind you are going to roll and roll up to you and try to time it to where they might can push you out of the way down in term one Austin Dillon has to know that he's going to get the bumper all right at some point you got that in the back of your mind. You're going to more than likely have the outside car on your door,

which is going to make it difficult down in turn one and two. And the 22 beats him. 22 gained the restart just right. He didn't cheat. He didn't do anything wrong, but he timed it just right, and he went down and didn't allow Austin to be able to roll the corner in one and two like he would have preferred. And so he beats him off the corner.

and um straight up yeah yeah and so austin at that point is like i gotta stay close enough to be able to hit him all right that's it that's all you're trying to do in that moment is and austin would admit that i'm just trying to get back to him and if i need to hit him i'm hitting him i need i'm 30 second points i'm gonna do whatever i need to do and so now as they go down in the last turn austin definitely would have liked to have been closer so that it didn't look so desperate. But he's absolutely desperate. He goes down in the corner and hits Joey, which I don't really have a problem with. Even as big of a hell Mary as that was, I mean, it was a full intent not even trying to make the corner. I'm going to do everything

I can to knock the sky up the racetracker. Spinning man, I don't care. I don't care what happens to him, I'm getting to him and hitting him. This is it. This is all I got. This is my only chance. I don't really have a problem with that. I don't love it. I don't, you know, in the cars tour, you're not going to, you're going to get disqualified for that move. NASCAR doesn't have a rule for this. They don't have a rule against this. Now they have penalized people for spending people in the past. You go back to Sonoma, I think, sometime in the, in the 90s. Ricky Rudd and Dave Bialison. So, I mean, there's a precedent from way back where someone was penalized for turning a car to win the race. And so, but I don't have a big problem with that in terms of the driver

code. Now, what happens after that is the big controversy, so in my eyes. So he goes through the 22 car and then who what happens next does denny drive across the three or does the three turn the 11 or is it a combination of denny taking a natural line and the three taking a very unnatural line and you know a bit of an argument there i listened to between those two cars i listened to happy hour yesterday and austin dillan was on there and uh he said that he was trying to take the shortest line to the checker, which is along the bottom of the racetrack. And Denny was probably taking the natural line. That was his words,

taken for what you want. Yeah. But I know that Austin's looking at the start-finish line, and I know Austin's like, full-throttle, get there fast as I can, but he's an elite, you know, as much shit as people want to give him for being mid-and-average or below-average, whatever you want to do. A lot of people give him shit. for, you know, being in the position he's in.

He's still a very good race car driver in terms of the general population. He's doing this enough every week. There's no question he sees and feels and understands where Denny's at, right? All of the, I mean, your peripheral and all of those things are overtuned. And you're, all this information's coming at you. and you're processing it. And so, yes, he's trying to get to start, finish line. Yes, he's focused on that and looking forward.

But he definitely sees and feels a car right here to his left. And so not that he says, hey, man, I didn't know he was there. I'm just saying, like, you know that car's there. Now, they come together. There is some data. So the SMT is public. The SMT's out on the internet. Usually we don't get this SMT put out publicly.

But it is, in this case. And you can see when the cars come together, either moments before or during the contact of 11, Austin Steers left. Now, a lot of people are going to look at that and go, well, there it is. He's red-handed, right? You remember Jack Sprague at IRP when he wrecks Ron Horner Day

and he's got his white gloves on and everybody? I mean, it's like so, right before they get in the corner, he goes, right? Well, you know, you could argue that Jack Sprague was just chasing the back of his truck. Did his truck get loose? Or did he truly steer into Ron and wrecking? And so there's

that debate. I can look, the data is there, the SMT is there, but it still doesn't convince me. I need, the only thing that is really going to convince me is

somebody admitting that they did it. I guess what I'm saying is like, you could you know, you could argue if you're in the Dillon camp, man, Dylan turned left at the point of contact to keep from going into the wall with the 11. Because they, when they come together, the 11's going to crash. And if Austin doesn't steer left, he's going with it. Right.

And so Austin certainly turns left, right hooks the 11, but was it to save his own ass? he was asked straight up did you mean to wreck the 11 in his post race press conference and he said I mean it was reaction that's the best way I can say it it was super fast so the mean to was definitely to move the 11

the rest was just whatever my body did I don't know what that he means so you blaming your body for I don't know you're doing that like it's just a bang bang don't ask me ask my body I don't know

that's a very confusing if you didn't mean to wreck him then you just come out and say it. Yeah. You don't say my body did it or it's a reaction. That's what you immediately try to get that out there so you don't get a penalty. Like he didn't say it, but he didn't deny it at all. No, he didn't.

Yeah, that's a good point. So that's something I think that we'll all debate is, or that's something that I wish we all had more information or the truth on is like, what really, what really did you want to achieve there? and it was kind of a bang, bang play. Let me ask you, so I heard the phrase chicken shit move being thrown out by Joey Lugano and a few other people. I think Bubba was another driver who said that. About a million people on Twitter.

Do you agree was what Austin Dillon did, a chicken d'i move? I think, you know, whether the 22 or the 11 or both, what do you think? Yeah. I think that Joey has been on the other side of that quite a few times. Um, you know, as mad as Joey was, uh, I can, you know, there's a lot of examples of him sort of being in the same situation. Um, he didn't, he's, you know, I think, I think what Joey was mad about is, man, you came from four cars back. You know, by time, when we're going down the back straight away, there's some drivers that would be in Austin's shoes and go, I'm beat. you know, I'm too far back.

Now, if I was two car links behind or one car links behind, I'm definitely hitting the hell out of the 22. Every driver in the field is going to do that. Every driver. Now, maybe not every driver, but I would expect every driver to do that. It used to frustrate the hell out of me when Truex wouldn't move people out of the way.

And so there are some drivers that don't get physical in those moments. They're just like, hey, can't pass you clean, can't win clean. And so, but I'm all right at Richmond especially if you're within striking distance to move the car for the lead. I'm all right with that. But where is the, when is it desperate and maybe. Like where's the line? And so that's, and it's, part of that is the distance you have between you and the lead car. Lugano thought that he had earned enough of a distance to earn, to have to, to have, to, to, to,

for the three to go, yep, he's got me. If I sell it down in there, I'm barely going to get there and clip him in the right rear. It's just an unwritten. There's no rulebook, there's no pamphlet, but there's a code of, dude, you don't come from four carling's back. That's Joey's point of you. Like, you could argue he didn't attempt to make the corner

without planning on hitting that 22, right? Like he was going in way too fast. I think he was still in fifth gear. Yeah, yeah. So like, listen, he isn't denying that. I guess you're right. It's very clear. It's very clear what happened with the 22.

And I think Joey's like, look, God dang, man, I was, you know, I had you beat. Now, you know, if you had been two Carlinx back, one Carling's back, I could have, I could have accepted this. But, God, Lai, you came from four or five Carlings back. That's, it's trivial, I know, but that's kind of the, there's some drivers that believe that, you know, when you're as far back as the three was entering turn three, that you don't make the move, that it's over. The race is over.

And Joey honestly was sitting there probably coming to the white flag thinking, I'm about to freaking steal this. Right? And had it in his mind that, man, I look in the mirror and I've got it. And he goes down. It's over. Back straight away, like, oh, I'm good. No way.

and so but again man joey has been on the other side of this and definitely like he sent byron into the wall at um Darlington I mean you know it's fair game he's had dustups of Denny at martinsville yeah it's just short track race in that famous quote you know the thing that's gonna really that I think the thing that's really tough for everybody is that is the the 11 the deal with the 11 I mean what do you think was your intent do you think there was intent to wreck the 11 yeah I think that he didn't care what happened to the 11. To me that's intent. Like if you don't give a shit, then you don't, like, if you don't have enough care at that moment to take care of the driver next to you,

which to your point is the code, right? You're not dive bombing someone with five car links back. If you don't give a shit, then that's intent. Apathy is the same thing. It's complicit in the court of law. Yeah. It's the same thing.

And, and, you know, Denny's talking about, well, you know, the line's invisible, but there needs to be a, line drawn by NASCAR of like, okay, this is too egregious. You know, he said it doesn't paint the sport in a good light. Did this cross a line, in your opinion? Well, I think that it definitely crossed a line.

It's a missed opportunity maybe for NASCAR to react in the moment. I'm hesitant to, you know, what are you, you got to, NASCAR was probably hesitant to react because what are the dominoes and ramifications of what are the negative things, right? If they say, this isn't official, nope, you're disqualified, the winner is the 45, or in this case they have Denny.

Yeah, finishing second. Right. What would have been the, now in the moment, fans might have been like, okay, acceptable. What is the long-term ramifications of that? Or, you know, in the next moment when somebody gets slid up the track, you know, where does NASCAR can't?

NASCAR and drivers, I mean, the code of drivers is not written. The code of drivers is not written. It's not in black and white for you to read. it's just hey man treat me with respect and so NASCAR wouldn't really be able to go NASCAR likes to make rules that they can tangibly hold and feel

right and so where would you say what's it where would you stop at what's legal and not legal in those moments is the hard part I think for NASCAR but I believe that this was a missed opportunity for them

this was definitely more more than enough. I think they had an... To do what? I think they definitely had an opportunity to define what is unacceptable. And take the win away

in the moment? I mean, I don't know whether you take the win away. I don't know. I just feel like that... I don't know what else you could do though. Yeah. Like really, I mean... Well, I mean, you could take his playoff eligibility away. I mean, that's what...

He gets the trophy, but that's it. Yeah, you get the win, but it doesn't count toward you don't go lock in. That would be during the week. right? Like in the moment, I don't know that they're going to say, like, well, he's automatically not in the playoffs. Do you think that they do that? Or do you think they would just wait until today to do that? I don't know. I mean, so it's Tuesday morning. I want to throw some hypotheticals at you because it's, you know, penalties. It sounds like there might be something coming, maybe not.

I didn't want to rush into that. So my, I guess my question to you guys is if they don't, if they did, if they did miss an opportunity to, to define what is unacceptable, live in the moment, the toothpaste is more toothpaste now is out of the tube, right? Will it not, now it's now, now it is harder for them to demand higher expectations going forward. When these things would happen in the past, Mike Hilton would stand up in the next driver's meeting the next week and say a few words, and now he was convincing.

He was a convincing dude, but there's, I don't, they don't really have that guy anymore. There's, I don't know that there's an authoritarian figure in the garage that the driver,

when he speaks to the drivers go, oh, yes, sir, you bet, you bet, you bet, you got it, man. That's the way Helton was. Nobody messed with that guy. And now we don't, we don't, it's, now it's very holding hands,

it's very you know the drivers are coddled and NASCAR doesn't really hammer them in these moments and so I worry I guess that you know when we go to the next driver's meeting or we have you know the drivers won't be corralled they won't they're you know even if somebody does say guys we got to tone it down I don't feel like a driver driver driver going whatever I you know I saw what happened last week yeah I guess that's why I wish something had been done live in the moment because I don't think that there is enough influence and a way to influence the drivers after the fact like there used to be back in the day.

You're going to think twice if they take that win away from Austin Dillon the night of doing that again another week. The other thing too is I think NASCAR is very scared of what happened in the past. So this really reminded me a lot of the of the deal with Michael Walter Bracing and Clint Boyer intentionally spinning out, causing the yellow. They end up pulling True X out of the playoffs,

or they added Jeff Gordon. It was a freaking disaster. Yeah. It was. And a lot of people would blame that moment on the demise and ultimate closure of Michael Walter Pracing. Right?

Yeah. You don't want, want to put the nail in the coffin on a race team, right? If you're the governing body of the sport, all you guys sitting here in front of me, you were NASCAR, the people listening to the show, you're NASCAR, right? You want to send a message, but your message could end up closing or causing or creating that team to fail. And ultimately, right?

we know RCR is sort of struggling to you know to get things going fighting an uphill battle they're probably not as financially flush with money as some of the other teams they do more with less all of that right and performance has been bad this year they got Johnny Morris standing right there in the pits they're probably one of their biggest pay their biggest checks that gets road all year is standing right there in the pits it's his car i mean i know it's like a black and white common sense like what austin did was bad that should be yeah something should happen they had a chance to fix all that if they made the call at the race now during the week it's you can't do because of that you had a chance to not ruin an organization if you made the call you think if they make it

you think if they make that call at the racetrack that night it doesn't ruin yeah because i think if Taking the win away is a lot more of a punishment than finding them whatever they're going to find them if they find them or suspend him. But I think if they, yeah, I know, but I feel like if, I don't know. Because he makes the move because he's desperate. Yeah. He makes both moves because he's desperate because he's 32nd in points. It's definitely significant because you now you're in the playoffs. And the financial backing of him making the playoffs. Yeah. Of jumping 16 positions and points, whatever it is. I'm just saying like, all right, if you come out on a Tuesday or Wednesday and you take a win away, or don't even worry about the monetary fine. Just say, all right, man, you're out of the playoffs, the wind's gone, back to 32nd. We know what that kind of did to Michael Walter Bracing, right? It sent them down a bad path they never recovered from. I think even if you did it at the racetrack on race night, it's all the same.

Yeah, but he's running, that's his performance, that NASCAR is not stepping in and putting them back there, kind of like Michael Walter Bracing. He's running 32nd every week. you know, that's on their performance. And I think that's much more to swallow as a fan than them putting him back because of a penalty. Landon Castle tweeted, don't hate the player, hate the game. And, you know, we look at like NASCAR kind of put themselves in this position with the format. They even got rid of the rule that you have to be top 30 in points.

So really, Austin Dillon can go for it. Is it time we maybe revisit looking at the format? Do we look at rules to change what makes you eligible for the playoffs? No, I mean, NASCAR is not going to do that. We can sit here and say what we think NASCAR should do all day long, but they're not going to change the format. NASCAR is not going to look at this and go, oh, we made a mistake, we better change this and dial this back.

And in his post-race press conference said, well, we've created this elimination, we've trying to create these moments, and here we are, we've got these moments, and now we're not governing and NASCAR's not going to look at it like that. NASCAR is going to look at it and go, everybody's talking about it.

We took a couple weeks off, and we came back from the Olympics with a bang, man, we're back on the map. A Sunday night race at Richmond was trending number one on Twitter. Yeah, yeah. Which Richmond has been terrible. And so they were going into that race

thinking, please don't let this be a boring ass sleeper, you know, and they get what they get at the end. They're probably sitting there going, man, we're not touching a thing. Yeah, they're happy about this. I'm not touching this. This is working. I was really surprised by Denny's post-race and how measured he was.

He was. I thought the same thing. He saved some stuff for the podcast, so I'll tell you that. And he, what was interesting is, so Denny gets out of his car. He gives a post-race interview immediately that was really measured. And then as each interview went, that night. Have you watched all the other interviews he did?

He gets a little bit more loose. He did a breakout on pit road with all the other print reporters and other cell phone cameras and all that. And he's getting more and more and more and more. And then he went to the NASCAR hauler and then they talked to him after that. And then his podcast, which is fantastic. You got to go listen to that. Action is detrimental.

So it was like, yeah, he got more and more unraveled and more disappointed, more angry and more brazen as his interviews went, which was pretty funny. But Joey comes right out of the gate. I mean, Joey's in trouble for the pit road stuff, not to try to divert attention away from Austin. Honestly, I don't think Austin, I would be surprised if Austin gets penalized for anything.

Even though absolutely you could say he right-hooked the 11, there's other instances with right hooks. sorry, there's other instances with right hooks. That should be the same for Austin, right? I mean, you could absolutely, I would not argue that at all if somebody wanted to compare his right-hooking the 11 to other situations where drivers got turned into the wall. You're ultimately steering the race car.

I don't think that, I think Joey's going to get a big deal, a big penalty from the pit road stuff. You know, he pissed. off. So if you watch the in-car footage of Joey come down pit road, you know, there's people that are crossing pit road, which there shouldn't be any people on pit road. It's a live pit road. Victory Lane and the car and all that, there's a problem there that the track needs to fix. Victory Lane used to be over by the Unicab 76 building on the interior of the pit wall. And, but anyways, it's, they, that's a problem in itself.

but there are, you know, with the officials, they're jumping out of the way. Joey's come down pit road out of control. And one of the, when Joey finally comes to a stop, you got an official, about to chew his ass. And yeah, I was like, hey, I like that guy. You know, I like the officials to be that way. That's Mike Helton-esque. You know, that was how, that was a 2004 official right there.

You know what I mean? Joey stopped in his tracks for sure. And that guy, that guy was coming to give him a piece of his mind, and rightfully so. And Joey will get a penalty for what he did there. The spotter chatter. So that was comical in the media center with Richard Childress. Like, doing everything he could. That's not what you said.

No, it didn't happen. Someone was on the radio. Somebody else said that. Not on that radio. Can't believe it here on the internet. Yeah, I mean. was AI that's what it was so i mean yeah if you go and listen to the clip it sounds like if it syncs up correctly with the video which i'm not sure if it fully does but it sounds like the

spotter saying wreck him right go listen to yourself yeah the audio and the audio the video on the internet on on social media is not perfectly synced it's just a tick off but still you do hear the guy what what i would i think he's saying wrecking now the second one could be heck yeah i can't really tell, but the first one is definitely wrecking. And that's a, you know, that's trouble. That's trouble. Now that, I think NASCAR will react, NASCAR

will react to RCR in some way, shape, or form because of the spotter audio. And they should. They should. Spotters have gotten in trouble in the past for giving directives and

instructions like this. So, you know, crew cheese, spotters should always get in trouble when they're telling their driver to do something nefarious on the racetrack, such as wrecking another opponent. So I expect I'll be disappointed if something doesn't happen in that realm. You can't have spotters out of control, you know, and that's out of control. That's too far. I think, you know, there was a line crossed on the racetrack with the three car throughout all that sort of. shenanigans and certainly a line crossed in the spotter stand and then a line crossed on pit road so i mean a lot of lines got crossed the you know will they be more than two penalties i'd be i'd

expect 22 joe lagano penalty for pit road i'd expect something around the spotter audio and i'm not sure what nascar could do or would do beyond that so like naskar cited section 4d in the rule book which i can i know no one you can't go look at it but i have in here they've cited the last two suspensions from right hooking, and one of the examples is clearly forcing another competitor into the wall in an abrupt and unambiguous manner and so on. So that's what I saw. Is this grounds for suspension then?

He called for Austin Cindrick to be suspended after Gateway last year. He said, I got right hooked right into the wall. I mean, almost the exact same kind of move. So would we, so maybe we wouldn't be shocked if NASCAR came out and said, Austin's sitting out of race. How would you feel about that? I wouldn't have a problem with it. I think if they do that,

I would even go as far as to say you don't grant them a waiver. Yeah, yeah, what do you do there? You keep the win, you don't get away. Sure, keep your Richmond win. You got it. You're not getting the playoffs. I told y'all, I don't know,

it feels like 12 months ago there shouldn't be any waivers. You messed up, Haas? Yeah. I'm sorry. It should not be waivers. for nothing. What if Denny Hamlin

gets declared the winner? I don't know. I guess, I mean, that is, it is what it is. Somebody's got to be the winner. I don't have a problem with it. Taking the win away midweek. Don't have a problem with it.

I'm not a fan of, I don't mind, I like, Austin's cool. Denny's fine. Look, I don't like, pull for the, yeah. I understand that.

I can't get it like, emotional, I can't get emotionally charged by any of it because yeah, okay, fine, whatever they want to do. But just the precedent of it. I think that it's a very important moment for NASCAR. This is. Yes. Yes, this is very important.

So, they cannot not deter this. It's Pandora's box. That was too far. I don't want to see that again. That was, like, Denny, I thought didn't he hit way harder than he did. I was surprised to see him get out of that car so surprised. he did. I thought he

pre-com pounded the fence. It depends on how you look at it. I mean, we all could sit here and say, yeah, he wrecked the 22, he wrecked the 11, you know, penalized the 3. I could totally understand that argument. But I could also understand, like, saying, you know, that the 11 and the 3

sort of met in a bad spot. And that was unavoidable what would happen to the 11. Because, again, if the three doesn't steer left into that, he's going with him. But he is responsible. I think once he sent the 22, he's like, I'm going to, I got to. It's winter get in. It's all or nothing. And I don't, I can't blame him for it, I guess, but man, what a, I don't know. There were a ton of people, including Jimmy Johnson, who tweeted, you know, comparing this move to something your dad would do. What do you think? What do you think? Is that a fair comparison? Um, I don't, you know,

Dad was rough. He had a little spell, especially in that blue and yellow car where 86, 87, he got pretty rough. Someone on Twitter went through and looked at the last 20 finishes of his wins,

and there was only one where there was like really any egregious contact made and it was Bristol, Terle Bonny. That was the one. Otherwise, he was either clean, gaping people, winning by a lot. Well, I back then, certainly a different time.

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Every race team has an incredible amount of individuals that maybe don't even travel to the racetrack, work back at the shop that are a big part of the success of that race team, preparing cars, getting them ready to go to the racetrack and run these races and try to win checkered flags and ultimately championships. All right, so Austin Dillon's caught into the show this morning. Austin, it's Tuesday. Been a couple days removed from the action at Richmond. You've done a ton of media.

And recently in the last 24 hours, the SMT data got published on social media. And that's kind of a new thing for all of us this year. And it allows, I guess, some people to use it to support a certain narrative. What is that like for you, I guess, as a driver when, you know, in the past, when you would go through something like that happened on Sunday, it was, it was, he said, he said. Now there's SMT data that everybody thinks they're experts on analyzing. And that information's out there. It shows you steering, you know, to the left when there's contact with the 11. But that could be, you know, you could explain that away.

So, you know, what's your take on that? Yeah, thanks for having me on, Dale. It's been a minute. I'm pumped to be on the show. My voice isn't very good, but I'm going to give you my explanation best I can today. Yeah. For me, you know, I'll start with, let's go back to, you know, going into turn three. Obviously, I'm doing everything I can to try and give my team a shot to win.

I'm trying to get Joey loose. as I go in the corner got a lot of speed but actually I kind of had the car under control pretty good with a hard entry I end up I think second lane middle when I get the car pointed to come back down the hill

on exit of turn four at Richmond the track naturally drives you to the wall when you're running the yellow line Denny's on the lower line I've got a really good diamond kind of angle at the track at this point So my vision is clear still, and I'm looking at the start finish line. But my straightest point to the start finish line is about mid-track, which isn't optimal for like the guy coming up the track.

Denny, I think in his podcast said that he didn't even know I was there. When he came into my view, he's carrying more speed than I am. If he clears me a little bit further, none of this happens. If he's half a car length further back, he takes me to the wall with him. and we crash at the wall. When he comes up, I'm headed to the same angle as I am. His right rear catches my left front. At that point, if I hold the wheel right, I'm going this way.

I mean, I'm trying to turn my car to keep the same direction I'm going. Yeah. At that point. The Denny part, you know, I hate it. Denny protected me earlier this year on his podcast when times were really tough. When we were getting wrecked out and just not running worth of darn for the last two years and and shoot him in his basketball league i'm supposed to play in thursday in basketball um are you going to go i don't know i think paul broke my rib

after the race when he punched me i saw that it was already hurt from the previous weekend playing and he hit me in the right the same exact place but yeah i kind of want to go and just show up because one i haven't talked to dany yet um i feel like um Denny's very honest and open about a lot of things. I think in this situation, he's probably in a more torn place than he's ever been because one of his car is now in the bubble in the playoffs, right? So I thought his first reaction after the car was fair. You know, I mean, he knew what I was having to try and do to win the race.

And when he said that he didn't know I was there and outside of him, I really don't think he did. And like I said, I was just trying to go the same direction. because that was the fastest way to start finish line for me. Yeah. You know, what's the last, you know, several hours or several, you know, you've had a few days to process this. You've done a ton of media as the winner, truly, you know, tends to do.

Probably more, though, because people want to get your point of view on what happens Sunday night. And you've had a bit of an opportunity to process it. So, you know, I think I would encourage you to go to play basketball with Denny because he did seem to have some understanding. of whether he might he didn't like it, but he did seem to have some understanding of what you're

thinking was, but you know, where are you now, I guess, a couple days removed from this? There's the potential for NASCAR to have some kind of a reaction today in terms of everything that happened between Joey on Pitt Road,

the spotter communication. I would expect some reaction from NASCAR. Do you have any idea what that might be, or what would you expect NASCAR to do? Yeah, you know, I mean, I'm expecting something, obviously. I think, you know, as far as my spotter, I talked to him, and I truly think, you know, for all of us, the emotions were really high in our situation for the three car.

We've been beat up, banged up for a while now, and with two laps to go, we had a three-second lead at Richmond and a caution comes out that probably shouldn't have ever happened, but it did. And then now we're here talking about things that take away from the car that we really had and the opportunity that we took. You know, from our spotter, I feel like he became a fan in the stands on the last lap of Austin Dillon and RCR. He was just saying what came to his mind in the moment and it was wrong. and I'm sure there's going to be something from that.

But what he was saying didn't change what happened in turn three and four. I'm driving at that point for all it's worth, and he's just keying the mic talking. So I know he's bummed about that, but I mean, he's had my back through a lot of the rough patches that we've had over at RCR. I can't fault him for being a fan in that moment. Where did the speed come from Sunday?

You guys have struggled. It's been a tough, tough year, probably one of your toughest in the Cup series. A lot of been made of being 32nd points before the race. You know, and you have ran good at Richmond before. Is that just a track where y'all just have an understanding of the package you need? I mean, no one expect you to have a winning car or a race winning car, and you had the best car there. Yeah, no.

For us, you know, that track literally, If you asked me when I started my cup career, what was my least favorite track? It was Richmond. Struggled there. Couldn't find anything. I tested there with Justin with the old car one time. And I kind of found a rhythm. And Ryan Newman kind of helped me actually with a line there.

And I've always stuck to this line that's a little lower on the straightaway. And it works for me off of turn four. I think it saves my tires. And I enter super low and hard into one and two. And no one kind of runs down there. I've seen Harvick used to do it. But yeah, it's just been, for me, it's a place that I've got to feel for. And we built a car around it and it really started at the simulator where we felt like we hit on some things.

And really none of the other key partners were set up like us. We just had a different setup and went to a break package that, you know, has seemed to be better for us. It started back at Gateway when we had a pretty good run there. and led some laps. And I think that momentum, and then the option tire, we were really good with it at North Wilkesboro, didn't get to showcase it. We had the pole at the open,

and rain came with a car left, and I think we were going to keep that pole. So it started back there on our short track program getting better, and we kind of just stuck to that same program and unloaded, and it was good. You said that change is coming for our CR. I kind of want to know what that looks like. I've said on our show here that I think your location creates a lot of challenges.

Tell me, you know, how you said that, you know, you may have said that some things in the all season that you have planned coming up that are, that should make a big difference in y'all's team going forward. You've got Kyle Bush that, you know, when he doesn't run good, it's a big spotlight put on you guys in, even more so than ever. So what are these changes? How can you be that confident in what's coming down the pipe for you guys? Well, I think that, you know, we have, my grandfather has done a good job of wanting to get better, you know, consistently.

And I think we have to make changes to do that. And some changes will be made. I'm excited about it. Obviously, I think the garage knows that, you know, there's some strong people out there that are moving around. And I feel like we did a good job in what would you call, like a free agency type period, that we're going to bring in some good talent that should freshen up the blood over at RCR and just some good people. We've got people that have been at RCR for a very long time and really care about how we run. But it was time to kind of bring in probably some new people.

And I think that that should help in the offseason. And truthfully, Keith Rod, and moving from a crew chief type role to, the competition director. I think he kind of found a role for himself. He's a really smart guy, and he is making us work together more. Yeah, I think some good things are coming for what I can say. So you know what's happening, but it's something you guys haven't announced or don't want to quite announce yet because of some current things going on in the sport,

I'm assuming. Yeah, you know, I mean, it's just. silly season is kind of wild NASCAR obviously. We're waiting to make the calls when we can. Why did Petrie leave? Man, I think the performance from both teams had dropped, but, you know, it was in a place. Like Petrie was one of the first people to call me after we won. And Andy called me.

He was like, man, I knew that was your shot to win. I felt like Richmond is just a great place for you. his son-in-law is my front tire changer. So relationship there, I think Andy, there was a lot of pressure being put on him from both teams. And it was one of those things where, look, he told my grandfather straight up, if you need to make a change, we'll make a change.

And he's that way. He's kind of up front about it. He's been through it. And he's very relatable with my grandfather since he owned a race team himself. So, you know, I'm glad that Andy and myself and RCR still have a good relationship. And for him to call me after the race,

I thought that was really special. Him and one of my other favorite text messages was Mark Martin. He hit me up after the race and said, spectacular. And I was just like, that's like a hero for me. One of the guys I used to watch as a kid and getting a text from him and Mike Skinner, Chocolate Myers, guys that I've grown up around. It was pretty cool. Yeah.

I publicly said that you need to be positioning for an executive owner's stake in the business. For the success of RCR, I see you as a big part of that. Having driven the cars and been around this since you're a child, it just seems to make sense to me. Is that realistic? What is the five-year plan for Austin, the driver, and Austin as a member of RCR? Yeah, so I'm thankful you said that because it means a lot, and I care about our business

as much as anybody. and that's where you see the determination to keep on going because, you know, it's a tough sport, man. You've got the ups and downs with it. You hear it's impossible not to hear everything around you. And I definitely love coming across the railroad tracks there and welcome and working with the people, men and women there. So for me, I've had a lot of fun being the GM of our Carolina Cowboys, and I've learned a lot through our PBR team about people and contracts. what all really it takes to run a business, watch my grandfather.

The guy's got some crazy energy blood in him that allows him to just go. At his age, it is super impressive. So if he comes to me and says, hey, look, at this point in time, I want you to help more, and I am already, and my brother's starting to help a little bit too. And, you know,

a lot of the things that are going on I've been involved with as of late, even getting Kyle was one of those big things. And I want to do that, obviously. I've watched my grandfather fight for his company for a long time, so I want to keep it going and feel like I'm in a good place to do it. And my dad's experience helps that. But my contract right now is as a race car driver for two more years with RCR. And so five-year plan, we see what's going on in year two of my contract.

And if I'm best suited as getting out of the car, and putting somebody else in it. I definitely would love to be a part of that conversation with my grandfather and Mike Verlander. I think that's another guy underrated that we have gotten. There's been awesome for our company that is coming in and you'll see more of. He was Kyle's manager for a while, worked at Stuart Haas, and Mike has just breathed a lot of, you know, commitment to making the eight and the three run well. And he talks to Kyle really well, obviously, they have a relationship.

So he's been a plus. I'd love to help run it alongside of him and my dad and my grandfather in whatever capacity it is. What Kyle Bush say to you when he leaned down in the window after the race? He leaned down in the window and said, I said, man, that got wild. He said it didn't matter. You won it either way. He said you were the best car and you dominated. So which means a lot to me, you know,

it means that we've got to do everything we can to help Kyle get to Victory Lane to get a playoff spot as well. And, you know, Kyle is one of those people that you just got to respect because of his commitment to winning at all costs, just like all the great race car drivers. And, you know, he's had a frustrating season for his standards as well. And we all feel that at RCR. And we've got to get him to where he's capable of running. And that's running in the top five and winning races each and every week. And hopefully we can start that momentum now. All right, man, well, we've kept you longer than I told you we would.

I appreciate you giving us some time this morning. I know you've been busy. I know you got a lot of things going on. Look forward to seeing you make a playoff run and having fun the rest of the year. Thank you, Austin. Thanks, Dale. And at some point, I want to get on here, and we can talk about some bull riding and some other stuff that we got going on.

But it feels good to get on here and just chat about the weekend and performance we had. You bet, man. Hey, go to the basketball game because we want to know if it got awkward. All right The crazy thing is It's just how life works We're playing Denny's team So like it's not like I'm playing another team in the league

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See terms and conditions at fendul.com slash sportsbook. Gambling problem, call 877718-58-5543 or visit more than a game.nc.gov. All right, so it's good to get Austin on the show and get his take. And I was expecting him to, I was expecting him to describe that contact with the 11 that way. Because that's his only argument is to, you know, say, hey, man, the only way I could keep myself from going into the fence with the 11 was to turn left. That's why the data shows what it shows. and I think that's the only way he can keep himself from any more of a severe penalty from NASCAR.

He admits to doing what it took to get to the back of the 22. And it is what it is. Be interesting to see what NASCAR does. One of the things got overshadowed and all of this is the two tires that NASCAR chose to run at Richmond. There was the hard tire and the softer tire or the option. or the prime, which I still don't know which one is which. I think it's the dumbest thing I ever heard. I think, why do you think they want to call on names option and prime?

I mean, no one names make any freaking sense to me. Yellow and red, like, good years have been yellow forever, which I wish they'd have never changed. I wish they were still white. But they're yellow now, which doesn't, when they made the yellow letters, it made, it just didn't look good on the cars. Like you got all these cool paint schemes and then this tire that was a white lettered tire.

I wish it was either all black or the white letters and not yellow, right? Just like, what a strange color. I don't have a problem with yellow. You know, I'm super particular. I'm one of the, I'm still going to, I'm still one of them people that are complaining about the number moved forward.

Like I'm seeing most of NASCAR has moved on, but not me. You're still hung up on the tire collar. Oh, yeah. So, you know, I'm idiot. I'm idiot like that. But, uh, so they should have been

yellow or red or hard or soft. Yeah, prime option. It's just, they came up with these like, snazzy names. Yeah, way cooler than it's supposed to be. What are we talking about taco shells? Like, I'm going to let you sit in that one. Yeah.

Um, yeah, it's like, way, they're trying to make it way cooler than it's just call it hard and soft well i believe i believe that they want to um there's some reason they don't want to call them hard and soft tires because technically that may be not entirely correct or it also might steer them down a road in in a in a public relations manner that might not be one they want to go down and so they want to name them something uh but anyway it's really confusing for me. It's like oversteer and understeer, which for all of my life,

I've called cars tight and loose. When it's loose, the back sliding, when it's tight, the front sliding. And in road course racing and overseas, it's oversteer and understeer. I still ain't got a freaking clue which one is which. Like there's some things that my mind just chooses not to learn. And that's one of them.

I could sit down and, focus on it for a day and as soon as I get up my mind's like yep ripping that page out that's what I'm doing with this prime and optimum tire or whatever whatever it is. Optimus prime tire

I'm not learning that so let me just be honest if I'm a broadcaster in a booth when a race has those tires I'm calling them hard and soft I'm calling them yellow and red because that makes sense to me

They're going to put on the reds, man. Here they go. The yellow and red almost make, because, like, I recognize yellow is these are the tires we run every single week. All the time. This is the normal compound. Red is the new thing. It's what you have more of them and red is your...

That makes sense to me. I got a visual clue. I got a visual clue that's like, hey, man, I've got the red tire. But if I'm not watching the race and I'm listening to it on the radio or whatever, hard and soft. Yeah, the radio would have to be impossible

how to tell the difference because it was hard enough watching it on TV to figure out. I mean, unless I was looking exactly at the, pylon but then radio would be terrible. I'm not doing this prime and optimum or whatever option. You still haven't learned how to I'm not. I ain't doing it.

Tire. I ain't doing it. I'm sorry. I love you, good year. Not doing this. Nope. I'm glad you can draw a line somewhere. But hey, I do want to say, good job, good year. Oh, yes. The tire worked. It worked like a freaking charm. Yeah. What do you say to the people? So, listen everybody, focus on this.

Don't focus on what Andrew's about to bring up. Focus on this. NASCAR is learning, and Goodyear is learning what they can do with this tire. They got, you know, when they go to the racetrack and they're like, hey, we're going to try all these compounds. We're going to tire test. We're going to take three cars to a racetrack that is not in racing. form. It's not a great

when they go tire test, it's not the perfect scenario to learn what you need to learn. We went to, you know, we'd go to all these racetracks and there's way higher tire rare during a tire test. Everything's just not right dynamically about the track,

how much rubber's on the racetrack. They're learning all of this now in race conditions, in the perfect condition to learn how aggressive. how aggressive they can get. This is awesome. So even if you don't love the two tire

hot and hard and soft, even if you don't love that, do love the fact that they're learning how to make their tire wear. They're learning how to make their tire fall off and not fail. They're scared to do this if they don't do this,

if they're doing this during tire tests, they're scared to come to the race and actually go this route and get aggressive. They're actually able to learn all of this in these perfect conditions, so it's awesome, man. And so hopefully it's allowing good year to go, you know what, when we go back to Richmond or we go to the next short track race,

we're actually going to take both of those tires a step further. You know, we're going to try to maybe even, or they might close the gap a little bit to where the hard tire is a little softer, and then they get the soft tire, which has great speed, to live a little longer. like that tire at Richmond lived about 25 laps before it would neutralize and then drop

they needed to be a little longer not much not a lot because then it really becomes too good but I think if it would go 40 laps right imagine if we had imagine going back to Bristol we had that one tire that wore out in 40 laps but you could put on a hard tire right and run

but you couldn't run that tire the entire race you didn't have no sets I thought this is opening up a lot of opportunity, but it's also allowing good year to truly, truly learn, all right, man, we can really get up against the, you know, we can push the envelope here. And so I'm thankful for that. And I hope that they're taking that opportunity.

I'm certain they are. I'm certain that they're taking the advantage of this to learn how to get these tires to where drivers want fall off. They want the tire to slow down. They want to have to take care of it, not drive like a freaking idiot all. every lap and just beat it up. They want you to have to be smart and have a racecraft.

And so this is helping them sort of be able to put a tire underneath them to get that. I got two questions. I asked you, hey, what do you think of the option tires a week or a month ago when it was first showing when you're like, eh, they're all going to do the same thing? Like you weren't that excited about it. After seeing it, did it change your mind a little bit? Not really. They still did.

They're still going. About the same strategies. Yeah. I mean, there were some teams that did some things different. like the 99 right he drives up to the front but eventually I mean when he when he got when he got on the other tire and everybody else had the soft he goes right back to where he was it all it ain't really I don't expect it to really alter the results because I think these teams get smart and they all end up on the same plan but it was just

I think it's just a great I love one thing about it one thing and one thing only and it's that Goodyear is able to try to test the softer compounds in race conditions to give them the confidence, even at these other tracks that we're not using two tires, to go softer. Whereas they would be conservative than they have been for a very long time, conservative and hard and no fall off and, you know, not great, not as good of racing. But, so I'm excited about that.

Kyle Bush said he would love to see like just the red tire, just be the tire. Oh, yeah. Would you agree with that? Yes. Yes. Yes. Because, yeah, I mean, that's where we'd love to live. Mm-hmm. Great, great, great, great comment from Kyle Busch. I hadn't seen that, had heard that. I want to say he said it during the race, too. So, hey, he knew.

I mean, if he feels that way, I think that would be awesome. And so that's kind of my point is like I'm hoping that they're learning how aggressive they can actually get in a safe space. And so like, okay, say they come to the racetrack and the soft tire is too soft. Man, it falls out.

It's courting in 40 laps. It's still, they're still able to have a race, get to the end. The drivers can figure out how to make that work plus have the hard tires to finish the race. It's not a catastrophe. and they can adjust and amend issues in real time and go to the next race and continue to improve this tire at a faster rate. It's taken too long to do a lot of things in this sport.

It just, you know, it takes a lot of time to approve parts, to get parts in manufacturing, to get tires to evolve, to keep up with the, with the, with the car. with the tracks, and this is going to accelerate that a lot. So I'm in favor of what they're learning. And to my point, Kyle Bush says, hey, this ought to be the tire we run all the time at this racetrack. This is great. I love this tire.

Well, we wouldn't have never heard that from a driver had we not tried this tire at this race during race conditions. We would have never had the confidence that it could live. And so, you know, I think NASCAR and Good Year can now go back to Richmond or Martinsville and say, we're just going to run the damn soft tire. Get rid of the hard. How about this? You get all sauce and two hards.

I don't, you know, whatever. Hell yeah. Right? You know what I'm saying? So, well, just, you know, if you run the soft and it stays green 100 laps, you might get freaking lapped. If somebody's on hards, they'll give up half a lap at the start and then run your ass back. down? I mean, who knows? I would love that. Yeah, that would be kind of cool.

But I want to shout out Hosevar. He had a good run all night. P-10. Yeah. Brand great all night. Yeah. We give his kid a lot of shit. He's right-hooked a bunch of people. Speaking of right-hooking. He's a right-hooker. But hey, we got to call it out when he does the right thing. All right, it's time for the Dirty-Modos segment

on the Dale Jr. Download. Dirty Mo-Doh, coming out every Thursday. Basically, handicaps the field, tells you some of the best, best to make and Tim's is here to tell us about how he did this weekend at Richmond. I saw you, man. Saw you making some bets. Yeah, I was out there. Popping up some notifications. Yeah. I saw one you made that did not work out. How did you go? How did you go? Well, we were looking good until Austin passed Denny. First of all, I had, I lied back Christopher Bell to win too. And that's beating penalty really hurt. He was the fastest car besides Austin.

But a lot of people forget about that. Yeah. We got really overshadowed. But then Austin passes Denny, and I had Austin top 10. Everyone knows my, you know, fun little rivalry with Austin on the show. And all he had to do is not beat Denny, and he beat Denny and wins. And that, you know, made it a not a great day, but not a bad day either. Yeah, you bet, um, Busher, Kislauski for a top 10. I saw your Josh Barry bet. Yeah. Yeah. Josh is really good there. It's probably his best track, so that was a little disappointing, but. Yeah, he slid back into the, you know, around 15th and and kind of hung there throughout the entire day. He had one run where he looked like he was clawing back into the top 10

with about two sets of tires left, and I thought you might get that bet. I wanted to put the Reds on and climb him to the front. I thought he'd be really good on those, but I never really worked out for him. All right, so what's your thoughts on this upcoming weekend? Michigan, so there's a NASCAR who puts out these featured matchups every week. So there's a couple that I really liked based on Michigan,

and there's one, Austin Dillon v. Bubba. I think Austin, I think it's a good week to lay low. and just kind of just ride around a little bit, you know, take it. And then Ford's won the last nine races here. So Joey Lugano over Chase Elliott, it seems like a pretty good one to me. He'll be pretty fast. Yeah. Yeah, Joey's got something to prove.

Yeah, exactly, especially after last week. Those are too good. I can get behind those. All right, man. Well, we appreciate you. Dirty Modo coming out every Thursday. Steve Lutart, Alex Tens, the professor, all those guys, giving you all the information you need.

Hey, if you don't even make bets on NASCAR, great show to listen on how they feel. the field is going to do. I mean, just gives you a good preview of strong matchups or strong drivers coming into the race if you're, you know, into NASCAR fantasy and you don't like to gamble. This could help you a lot to be able to set your field. So, yeah, tune in. Dirty Mo Doe, dropping every Thursday from Dirtymo Media. All right, it's time for the white flag. Dropping Sunday night to tear down with Jeff Gluck and Jordan Manki. Those two guys. I mean, it was, this, I knew as soon as that race ended, we were going to have a strong week.

So the tear down is must listen this week, as usual, with Jeff Gluck and Jordan, those two guys going at it over the finish of the race. And then you couldn't not tune in to action is detrimental with Denny Hamlin after Denny gets sent into the fence. We had a lot of opportunity to listen to his comments throughout all the interviews that he had post-race, and then he goes home. And you get really the true genuine reaction after he's been able to say. sit down and kind of, you know, decompress a little bit.

And in the comfort of his own home, so action's detrimental is must listen this week as well. Doorbub are clear. I'm sure those guys were off the rails with opinions on what they thought went down Sunday. And, you know, then you have our show as well. Dropping tomorrow, Speed Street and Conner Daily with Chase Holden. And then we have our Josh Wise interview. I want to let you guys know, man. I'll give you one guess on who told me we should have,

Josh Wise on the show. One guess. Austin Dillon. A lot of people saying he's the greatest driver of all time. Jimmy Johnson. Kyle Larson. Kyle Larson texts me riding down the road in the Midwest somewhere between dirt races and said, you know who you need on the show?

This guy. So we booked him. Josh Wise is going to come in, tell us everything about what he's got going on. And not only just his racing career, but everything he's doing for Chevrolet to help these drivers all stay in shape and get prepared mentally and physically for each and every week. He has a big program that we want to learn more about. Dropping Thursday is DJD Reloaded and Dirty Mo Doe. And then also we have the Dirty Mo Summer Games.

They're still going on. All right. Dropped yesterday was the beer ball competition at the Western Town. That's on my property. Hope you guys didn't tear anything up. Andrew and Dalton both were competing in that game as well. Dalton, let's hear your weekly social media standout. All right, this one is about the hangover cure from last week.

This comes from Stephen on Facebook, Stephen Yost. He said, I have owned bars and am now a DJ, and the absolute best hangover cure is mashed potatoes. No. And he said that he would used to go to Bristol at the campgrounds and order mashed potatoes for all the people he was with, and they said that that was the perfect cure after a night of drinking. All my.

All right. Mash potatoes, I need to try that one, but I can, yeah, putting a little something down in there. Substance. Yeah. Is it the night of or the morning after? He said about 10 a.m. after. All right. Some mashed potatoes.

All right. And we got a question, the question of the week coming from Carson Hosevar. What was the most embarrassing moment he'd gotten out of a race car and just like in a race car at a racetrack? Like what's his own embarrassing moment that he still remembers this day that he left the racetrack, thought like, man, I shouldn't have said that or shouldn't have done that or, man, I wish nobody knew about that. There's got to be one good story out there. Yeah. I will say this. So, and I'm probably shared most of these on the show.

So I would probably say that I could count on one hand, how many times I peed in the race car during the race. And when I would pee in the car, I was so nervous, because I always had white uniforms mostly, white uniforms. I was so nervous to get out of the car and it'd be like obvious that I'd peed all over myself, right? And I would say, all right, I need to. some orange gatorade over to the car

post race, right? And I would, I'd pour that orange gatorade all over my suit so that when I got out, it's like, it's just orange Gatorade. Yeah, that was avoiding embarrassment more than anything. I think the most embarrassing, I,

we were testing, we were testing, I was with Steve LaTart, we were at Daytona, we were in the draft, everybody's, it's February, you know, it's January. Everybody's got their brand new speedway cars. Everybody's cars are like primer with their little, you know, numbers and stuff on there. But everybody's been working months on these cars.

They're awesome. And we're all out there in a draft. And man, got to be careful. It's drafting, but you want to learn, but you also don't, don't tear your car up because this thing's ready for Daytona in a few weeks. but you want to learn you got to do right and so Denny's leading the pack and coming up off a turn to

I'm behind Mark Sambrose and I push Marcus and I think I pushed him up to behind Denny and I turned him and he's turning I can see him starting to turn and he's going to right front the wall.

And so I've got to get the hell out of there. So I dart left. He hits the wall, comes back across the track and all the cars behind us, which is probably about eight or ten, just plow into him. Big crash. And so I pulled down into the garage and pull into the stall. And I'm telling you, I could have, if I had a shovel, I'd have dug a whole way out of there. I'd have dug a tunnel.

I was I'm looking and Steve is my crew chief We're friends But I even in that moment I'm looking at him He's like I don't know you Oh man

You're not my driver I don't know you are And what did you do And I'm thinking All them people Were coming down Here To get in my ass

About this Like I've got no argument I'd effed up I'm watching the replay right here Yeah What the hell you think Yeah right

And so I was so embarrassed. And there's nothing you can say about it, but that you screwed up and you've destroyed the field. Now, you know, I know people are going to go, well, you know, the Vickers thing, that was in the race, and I'm damn sure I told you all already. Like, you know, Vickers was as responsible for all that as I was, in my mind.

I've done some other dumb, dumb, dumb things in a race car. Self-spunned at Bristol and got out and admitted it. Got myself in trouble. So, but that one right there was just, I just thought, God. That's tough. Yeah. Because it's not even, it's a test. It's not even for points of racing.

You got no argument. You're like the dumbest guy in the room. You won that test. I'll tell you that. So that was probably the worst I felt about the other drivers, the other teams, the other cars. when you're in race competition and you do something dumb, you definitely feel bad about it, but that in a test, that was the worst.

Sounds like it. Good stuff. All right, y'all. We'll see you tomorrow. Josh Wise coming in to talk to us about everything that he's got going on and his career. He drove here. He raced for us at Junior Motorsports for a while.

So we've got a nice connection there and we'll see what he's been up to and look forward to that. So we'll see you tomorrow. Check out Dirty Movement. media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.