The Dale Jr. Download - 577 - Watkins Glen: Do We Have A Respect Problem?

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

It was a thrilling dash to the finish at Watkins Glen, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the Dirty Mo Media studio with a new edition of Dirty Air. Special co-host TJ Majors joins to recap the race and weigh in on the latest hot topics in the racing world:Was NASCAR right to park Ryan Blaney?NASCAR team crash carts were getting out of controlPlayoff drivers struggled at the GlenThe tire was a big improvementRace winner Chris Buescher calls inWhat to do about increasing driver aggression Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download with my co-host, T.J. Majors and the rest of the gang here, Andrew, Dalton is out. He is married. He's on a honeymoon. Big deal. We're going to have fun. We're going to talk about Watkins Glen, and we've got our winner calling in, Chris Busher. Let's get started. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. You're a Dale. You're a complete moron if you undo your belt in a moving race car. Moron. He tends to hide the weird stuff And I'll find it

Bringing Amy on was a bad idea Oh, this is great The deal, your download starts now All right, so as I mentioned, TJ's in the studio. How's it going, TJ? It's great.

I kind of wanted to forget about the Glenn, but we'll talk about it, I guess. Yeah, we're going to talk about it. We're going to talk about it. Also, we're going to talk about Bristol coming up, man. Me and you, we're going to team up, go over there and run the Xfinity race. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.

Hopefully we don't go out in a ball of flames. Jesus. I'm going to hear a lot. of flame and burn and all those jokes this week. Everybody got up this morning and it was a miserable weather. We got a little bit of a storm coming through. The Carolina's dumping a ton of rain and man, I threw on this hoodie. It's hoodie weather.

Kind of. It's still a warm out. It's not hoodie weather yet. Well, it's not hoodie weather. I'm looking forward to it, man. I'm always excited when the weather turns. You got two? sets of clothes, right, in your closet.

You got the warm weather shit and the cold weather shit. There's really no middle ground. And so, you know, I love the summer, not wishing it away. But, man, I got a ton of good-looking hoodies. I'm ready to throw them on. I mean, you just threw it over that Lucas shirt. Yeah. We're going to talk about, yeah, we're going to talk about why I'm wearing this shirt later in the show.

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I've actually used that service, and it's amazing. Really, yeah. It sounds incredible. Wish they'd have had it back in the day. Change your profession if they did? Well, I mean, it's just so convenient. So many things that we've done over the years to make life easier. I think we kind of take these things for granted.

So thank you, Tire Pros for being innovative and trying to service your customers. You can find a van near you at TirePros.com. And, yeah, let's get right into, I guess we'll go right into it, man. Walkins Glen. So you're wanting to forget it, man. Wait a minute. I want to forget it, yes. You're working for the team that won the race.

For them, yeah, great, great race for Chris and the 17. For them? Yeah. I mean, it's like they're not even on, yeah, it's like they're not even on the same team. No, no, Chris is, Chris was on, I mean, he was dominant. He was, he drove to the front. I've never understood how, you know, you guys, you'll, hey, when he runs well, you get a bonus, right? You get a little bump?

No. No. Right. No. No. No. Well, don't say, if he wins, don't the guys on the 6th team get a little bonus? I don't know.

That not worked good? I'm not really sure how it works. I'm sure there's some. I'm sure there is. I'm sure there is. Man, I can't believe you didn't work that into your deal, T.J. You don't let much slide, man. I'm surprised that's not in.

Yeah. In the contract. It's penciled in. Don't worry. It's on my notes. All right. You need to add that into your next contract. I'll pay if Chris is going to keep doing this.

Yeah. I need to. So this was a fun race to watch. We had the accident on the first lap, Corey Ljoy getting into the back of the eight car. And man, it just caused a hell of a mess. And the 12 car of Blaney has contact with you guys, and it snaps to Tonek or something on the front,

the left front of Blaney. Some of the steering. Steering's gone, yeah, right? So he's pulls, he can't get back to the pits, right? so they got to bring his car back to the pits. Now there's this big debate. So he gets his car back to the pits. It's absolutely more than likely repairable.

But with the rules that NASCAR has, if you get towed back, you're out of the race. And so you're in the accident, you're out of the race. He could have fixed a car, got back out there, been a couple laps down, maybe made something out of the day. When we go over the results, I think he could have made something out of the day, probably come out of there about 10 or maybe 15 points better.

better. But they wouldn't allow him on the track. And man, he blasted the situation. I mean, obviously, absolutely furious that he couldn't repair his car. They didn't give him a chance to do it. But that's the rule. So is there a debate going on around whether there's, you know, is this rule good? Right.

We've not had a problem with it up until this point. NASCAR has changed the policies in terms of repairing your vehicle and there's a crash clock and all that crap. So, I call it crap, but it's not really crap. So listen, there was a reason why we or NASCAR went this direction and I was chatting on social media. Bob Prockers put up some great points about, you know,

some of the reasons for the current protocols. teams teams had these elaborate crash carts you had a cart you had one cart that had like all these body panels teams were carrying entire fender hood and nose pieces up in the top of the haulers if you crashed the front of the car

you could just basically set this whole front in on and get the arrow decent enough to finish the race they had crash carts with full suspension front and rear suspension pieces. And imagine with this, with the next-gen car, the elaborate crash carts that they would

develop and create that would all have to go into the hauler and get pulled up down the road unnecessarily overweighing the haulers. And the haulers were at one point, you know, carrying illegal amounts of weight. Like a lot of them were on the borderline or pushed right up against

the borderline of legally getting up and down the road. And some of them were getting themselves trouble. And so, you know, NASCAR's done, that was one of the many, many reasons why we went away from this, you know, and went to a situation where, you know, when you wreck, you're out of the race. Unless you can drive the car to the pits, then you have an allotted amount of time. I could tell you some problems with the current protocol. I've always felt like the cars that do get back to the pits have a lot of damage sometimes that's not repairable, but they're sending these guys back out on the racetrack

and in dangerous situations for themselves and the other cars on the racetrack. A lot of times the bare bond and the pieces that they're hurriedly putting on these cars comes off, creates a caution unnecessarily. And so they're rushed to fix the car because of a clock. And if the clock runs out, they're out of the race.

So they're just trying to, to go back out, make minimum speed, that's a dangerous situation. That is that, you're not going to argue with me and change my mind, but that's, that's, that's putting somebody in a very compromised situation. They could not have the clock, allow them to repair the car and take time on pit road. If it's, you know, 10, 15 minutes, whatever necessary so they can send the car out there safely and where nothing's going to come flying off of it and the car can steer properly and then let the guy finish the race.

but, you know, NASCAR wants to try to, you know, I think NASCAR kind of wants to save the guys from themselves and say, hey, man, you know, it's time for you to park it. It's time for your day to be over with. It's worked well. It has worked well. One of the things that I proposed, and I don't, I'm sure there's a lot, I'm sure there's flaws in this idea,

but one of the things that I thought about doing TJ was if you wanted to strip away, like the crash clock and give a guy like Blaney the opportunity to, fix his car that got towed to the garage, why wouldn't you just say something like, hey man, from 25th to last, I'll get the same points, right? So, or 20th to last. Something, I'm sure there's problems with that.

But what I'm trying to say is like, man, if I, I know the only way I can improve my points for the day is to finish in the top 20, right? And so if I'm damaged and tore all to hell, I'm more than likely going to load it up because I know my chances of improving points that I'm going to gain aren't going to be great.

So does Blaney repair the car if he knows that he's not going to be able to go out there and improve 20 positions? Maybe, especially early in the race, but maybe this might work for guys that are crashing out at halfway and 75% into the race knowing that they're probably not going to be able to

regroup, rebuild, and get back into the top 20. I don't think that's going to work. I know, but I think that... I know how these crew chiefs are, and you've been there with, like, Tony Jr., they want to fix these things, whether if it's a 500-lap race, if it takes them 400-9 laps, they're going to try to fix it, especially at a plate race, too, though. Because if you wreck on lap 5, the plate race, you know, I mean... I agree.

I think that IndyCar, maybe if somebody else has a very similar sort of points. At one's point system is what this reminds me of. I don't know if I like that, though. Yeah, I don't look at the points, and I've never looked at our point system, no matter what it was, and thought, yeah, I don't like that. From 15th on back, I don't love that. I mean, do you give two s what 20th got for points that day? I mean, now that we're looking in the playoffs,

it feel like it matters. I mean, especially you look at where all the playoff guys finish this week, the difference between 26 and 20th could be the difference of advancing from one round to another. It would tighten the points race up, I think, for sure. I definitely think maybe not all the way to 20th, but maybe like a 30th or something, you know. Something like it.

Yeah, I don't know. There's probably some room there for it to look at it. Look, I didn't say it was perfect. I think that it's like an idea. There's a middle ground. There's a middle ground with maybe doing exactly what you said. From 30th on back gets the same amount of points. And then maybe you can dial back some of the,

some of the crash protocols that we have that sort of, gosh, I really hate that, you know, I hate for anybody in the points. Blaney or anyone. Dude, I like Blaney. pals. But I hate it that he can probably just change a toe link and be fine. I heard that damage was a little more than a toe link. Yeah. Why don't

they just tell them? That's just speculation. Just tow them all to the garage in my opinion. I heard that it was not bad at all. Oh, I mean, I heard it was something in the steer. I countered your hearsay. Yeah, with more hearsay. Yeah, I heard it was something in the steering. This is what they do on BBC. Yeah, what I heard.

Yeah. I don't know. I've seen cars drive with broke toe links, though. Oh, yeah. Saying. Yeah. All right. We don't do that hearsay over here. I mean, what you're new here at TJ?

What's yours? Yeah. Did you see it? I don't have factual evidence, so I don't just spout hearsay. Well, I mean, that's kind of hearsay what you just said. I know I was hearsay for hearsay. So let's... Hearsay for hearsay.

That was a... Talked about Blaney having that... You know, one-lap crash, 38th place finish. A lot of the playoff drivers struggled. 11 of 16 drivers had issues during the day. And what's in, what I mean, you know, Byron, Brad, Hamlin, all the trouble they had was, you know, it was sucky.

But what I found surprising was Larson, Suarez, and Christopher Bell, even Lugano getting top 15 finishes, if you look at what happened to them, that is really what's impressive is if you said, okay, man, before the race begins, I'm going to tell you that Larson will be penalized for vehicle interference, and Swarers is going to park it in the gravel,

and Bell will be in a lap one crash, and Ligano will be in 80, you know, Lugano is going to be in that little dust up. With the 6 and the 24. Yeah, which was not an issue for him. that wasn't really a problem I mean he escaped and he made it a problem

for other people but if you say if I told you that about Larson Swares and Bell would you think they would finish in the top 14 if I told you that was what was going to happen to them that day

you would have thought man there's no way they're going to come out of there with a top 14 finish why is the field why is the field having so much churn during that race

that a guy can like Suarez can park it in the gravel and come back and run 13th what helps is probably that it's a road course. It's so big. You don't go lap down from like a pit road penalty or stuck in the gravel. But still, once you lose that track position. Right. Yeah. With the other tire. I know they were saying it was Ty Gibbs said it was hard to pass. It's always hard to pass. Yeah. Man, it's hard to pass. We hear that every week.

I know. I understand. That's nothing. That added nothing to the conversation. All right. What I think it is, TJ, is the tire. Do you not think that the tire, all that, listen, there weren't a ton of There wasn't all the falloff we were talking about. But guys were on pit road more to take tires. There was more pit stops, different strategies, people on different strategies. There was more churn and turn through the field. There was a lot more accidents, people having issues. Yeah.

But how do you, how do you know, explain? I think there's a lot of factors in here. I do think the tires matter, but I don't think we had enough because we only had enough of what? We didn't have a tire sets to do that a lot during the race for, hey, caution flags out, pit. What I think now is there's a lot more guys that aren't trying to get stage points They're going for the win

So you got every playoff guy is going for stage points You know what I mean They're staying out They're staying out That's why at one point You looked at the top seven And you're like man or top five whatever it was You're like there's not even a playoff guy

In the top five right now You think that's why our playoff guys didn't get the better results Is because they all gave up I think it's one of the factors That add in there You've got to take stage points when you get them

and you can't be as aggressive with your strategy shooting for the win. So you're gonna, I think the tires mattered some. The track was, it was cool because the tires wore and the track actually

got really dirty. You know how like when the tires wear it kind of makes offline and stuff way worse. But the tires definitely were stepping the right direction in my opinion. I agree.

And so the turn and turn, the turn over and the position swapping and mix up through the field, especially on those restarts, man. The track being dirty, the tire having a lot of lateral slip. It looked like guys were yawing and slipping the back and losing traction. Right.

Yeah, they could. Way more than what we would see with the other tires, I guess. And the track was dirtier. So if you got offline or put offline, you could tend to lose multiple spots coming up through the S's. We saw some guys gain several spots in the first three corners of a restart and other drivers lose several, there's a lot of churn and turnover in the field to give a guy like Sores, who puts himself in the gravel, many opportunities to redeem himself and recover,

which I don't believe that opportunity would have existed if we went back to the racetrack the way we were last year. If you go in the gravel and you're Suarez, without some sort of a lucky yellow, where everybody's caught out on the racetrack or something like that. I don't think he gets that track position back, not 13th. You know, I just think this race with the action on the track, the dirty track, the tires, all of those combinations presented us with,

we left not so frustrated by how, you know, we always would see cars kind of get trapped behind each other because of the arrow and the hardness of the tire and the lack of, you know, the lack of the, if you drove smart, you could keep this guy that was three-tenths or a half second faster behind you. It drove like a mile and a half last year.

It wasn't that way this weekend. No, it was way better. Yes. I agree. And guys were making mistakes less. I mean, the race was won off of one of the best road racers in the series making a mistake. Yeah.

We saw a lot of guys make a mistake in practice, missing the, not just, I mean, there were spinouts. But we also saw, guys go down in the carousel and cook it in there too hard and miss the corner right and and and miss the it was way more of that this year yeah so listen man i just want to say before i know you're ready to chime me i can tell i just want to say that you know i think that we should really applaud the tire and the effort a good year made i know they talked a big talk about four seconds of fall off and all that and as the track rubbered up it it it wasn't quite as much and uh so we didn't get

everything that they talked about but the tire definitely looked more, the tire to me reminded me more of a bias ply than a radial. There was more yawing and cars sort of hanging

it out up through the S's and guys getting over that line and making a mistake and chasing their cars and which is really, really what we need. Exit of one was big. Yeah. Guys could get, guys could wiggle off of there way more now and then the guy got behind him gets a run. Yes. So way better.

The track too. Got to give the track credit from making the changes that they made trying to help the racing. Yeah. What do you think about that stuff they did to the runoff area where they basically tried to, they tried to take some of the grip away. I think they went through there and made divvits in the asphalt. Yeah. And trying to make it where, yes, you can use it.

Yes, it'll help you if you get in trouble. But it's not somewhere we want you racing. Guys still did go way out there. But what was the response from the drivers about being on that? I don't think it was as usable. It was, it definitely, from what I, the hearsay that I got was that it was made a yon edge a little bit. Yeah. So it was definitely, you know, and you could see the guys that went out there last year, the guy that ran all the way to the wall would just carry momentum and clear everybody on the bottom.

The guy that got out there now didn't always clear the guy in the bottom. So you could tell he was struggling a little bit. With a tire that was maybe sensitive to wear too, I had to think that that surface and perfection of that surface would be more, you know, if you'd be. more, you know, if you used it constantly, it would be harder on the tire over the course of the run. Well, Connor Zilich said even on DBC yesterday, he used it on the restarts. Well, he quartered one in practice

in the Arka car, I believe, messing with it. So he knew right then that he wasn't he had to be careful when you played with it. Yeah, it was much more abrasive. What's, why why are we trying to curb the track limit so much? Like, why not just let the guys run out there? Because, listen, I don't, I didn't see why it was such a big

deal that we're trying to keep everyone, like, swinging out wide. Dude. And nobody could get runs on anybody. There's no room. If you mess up, the Watkins Glen, like, before you were born. It's more forgiving. Is what you're saying? Yes. You used to watch, like, Robbie Gordon go through the bus stop with the right side four feet in the air on the first curb. And then if you got offline, four feet, you were hitting dirt or something and making a mistake and then people would capitalize on it. When you just pave all that area, it just gets much easier to run off there and people keep their speed up. It takes away the potential, the potential for mistakes, which would present

opportunities for passing and, you know, if you can just, if you just can bury it into term one and run off the racetrack on corner exit, hell anybody can make a corner, you know, halfway decent. Yeah. And, and look like a hero, right? And so it brings back in a discipline of getting the braking perfect in the entry, getting the downshifts just right, getting the turn, not locking up the tires, and getting up out of the corner without just a complete free reign

of running wherever you want to run. If you cook the entry or run too hard through the center, the guy behind you can't capitalize because you have all of this asphalt out here saving your ass. And so I hate track limits. Like when we're talking about CODA track limits, that's ridiculous to me. Ridiculous.

We're not talking about that. But I think it's a good move. I don't think anybody ever intended when they paved that for the teams to go running out there. Like, hey, here's a new racetrack. Go run this way. I think when they saw that, they were like, oh, that was unintended. Much like the apron, listen, much like the apron at Phoenix on the frustrate away.

Dude, I don't give it what they say. The people that designed that track weren't sitting there going, man, they're going to use this apron. It'll be five wide on restarts. They were going, I bet when they saw that for the first time, they were like, damn, I didn't think they'd go down there. But they did. Probably true.

Right. And now, you know, it makes for some awesome restarts. I don't entirely love cutting the track so massively, but as a traditionalist, I don't love it. I hate spotting it. Yeah. And, you know, we're talking about Watkins Glenn. Our race winner, Chris Busher, is in the room. What in the hell?

What's that behind you there, pal? That's my dad's Bronco. Yeah. What color is that? Dang. It is. I don't know. My little girl would love that.

That's lavender. Well, that's fair. I love would think that's awesome. I think it's a good-looking truck, but. I bet it smells good. Very surprising. Of all the, I mean, you have some pretty cool cars, don't you? We're slowly building up a collection, but everything's progress.

This is the closest one to running. Well, man, hey, I'm appreciative that you're going to give us some time today. I know that, you're kind of in the, you're, this is a tough, tough part of the season. You know, you're grinding deep, deep into the year, and everybody's kind of smoked emotionally and mentally and maybe a little bit physically at this point, but you got a couple of races left. I don't know how in the hell you did that Sunday.

Look, I will tell you that I think the world of your talent, and I think you're a really, really great race car driver. But I don't believe that many people had you pulling off the wind with a half a lap to go over SVG, I don't know, how surprised were you to see the mistake and see the opportunity and take the lead? Yeah, I won't lie. That was probably the one car did not want to see get biased on that restart. So I was with you.

I knew that was going to be a tough one to get back going. And honestly, that last, the second to last lap was not good. Yeah. I was, you know, lost the lead. I felt like my lap was messy, lost a little ground, and we took the white flag, got into one, gained a little bit, and watched them run wide off of one. And the rumbles, while they weren't a big deal, you really couldn't put that much lateral load into the car across them. And so we gained a little bit there, and we got a good run up through the S's. And the thought went through my head at that point.

I was like, we've got a shot up this thing again. And so I just tried to keep the pressure on up the hill there and into the bus stop. And man, when he drove in as deep as he did, I was pretty much to a point where I don't think I could go any deeper. And he was ahead of me still digging. So I thought an opportunity might open up there, and sure enough, it did. And ended up being a really fun race, a hard-fought one. It was looking a lot easier about 25, 30 minutes prior to that, but still had to go fight for that one. I want to know your emotions when you come out of the carousel and you look in the mirror, and he's within reach.

That is, you know, that's probably one of the toughest things to describe as a race car driver. You've got two corners with one of the best road course racers. You know he can outbreak just about anybody in the field. You know, you've got two corners where he's going to try his hardest to get back to you. What's your emotions headed down the back straightaway? Yeah, I know one of our spotters, Tom was telling me he was, it closed a little bit into six, but we had been really good getting out of six. So I thought we would be okay there.

And so got off of six pretty good. I didn't get all the way out to set up for seven like I would have liked. But in doing that, kind of guarded to make sure he wasn't right there on us. And then I think he had the same mindset was put power down early. and try and be to the inside. I didn't know it at the time, but I watched the video back and I saw he got awfully crossed up,

crossed the turn six exit curve there. So really just gave us some breathing room. My turn seven was terrible exit, but I better get off the brakes because he was probably coming. And so I rolled in and way overdrove the center, but was just trying to. to cover and didn't even make it all the way through seven and herm told me that he missed the

corner and that was it and i was sitting there fist pumping from inside the car and um almost forgot to grab third gear so i had to get that mindset back real quick and make sure i finish the job but i'm obviously a little bit of a sour taste in our mouth for celebrating too early after a couple months ago and um there i was doing it again so Yeah, it was a really big boat. That was so cool for our entire group. We had such a fast race car Really just came alive after a couple laps. So that was truly enjoyable. I think the tire really brought on some Some cool opportunities for a lot of the field, but we you know specifically for us a lot of those Changes really worked well for our group and man, we finally got a roadcourse one. We've been so good at these things

have been so close to finally actually pull it off was that was special to me personally. I know the teams jacked up and loved it, but that was a big check for my wins. Yeah, I was wanting to ask you about the tire. We were talking about that just a moment ago. It looked like that the tire presented and provided a lot more y'all, a bigger forgiving window for you to kind of be more creative with the car and put the car a bit more back in the driver's hands. Would you agree with all that?

and where do you think they can go with what they've learned with this particular tire? Yeah, I'll be quick to say I'm not an engineer, and some of this could be completely wrong. But from where I was at behind the wheel, yeah, it was a tire that you can move around. It didn't feel so on edge. But there's also a tire that you could really piss off. You can make that tire give up on you really quick if you really abused it. and you would have to actually take a breather and get it back. And in my memory, I don't remember racing on a tire in, you know, probably the last decade that's been able to go through cycles like that.

That as a driver, I had a little bit of control over where it went. It felt like we've always had tires that either you abuse it and throughout an entire run, and you take it off the car and it's still got half its treadlight left. no fall off. Or, you know, we've had tires that Bristol won this year that, you know, no matter how easy you take it, it's going to shred. So I thought it was a great mix of a lot of different elements to put things back in the driver's hands. And I think that, you know, I don't know about the roval with the load that you see in the banking if this is an option there or not. I have no clue. But, you know, to me, it's a tire that I feel like. You take that.

that idea behind it, it could work really well at a lot of places. Yeah. I was wanting to ask you about before we let you go, man, we are coming back up on Bristol. We know what happened there with the tire at the first race. A lot of speculation on what might happen this time around. Will it be more of what we've always seen at Bristol? Or will we have another situation where the tire has excessive where? What's your expectations?

We got to do the test. We were one of, I think, seven or eight cars that did that tire test. I would say that it was significantly hotter that day. And going back, looks like we're going to have an awfully cool night. With the test, I don't think that we're changing anything. And I think we did see some significant wear still. So from where I'm at, I feel like we could see a lot of the same principle of the tire. I think teams are all aware of that and know, and they're going to go into, you know,

trying to set up for longer runs versus our shorter Bristol runs that we've had in the past. I know we're going to do, just found out yesterday we're going to do our full group practice with all the race cars for an extended practice. So maybe getting all the cars on track and practice will help put some rubber into it versus, you know, trying to do our 20-minute practices. And you know how those first couple of labs, it kind of actually. actually pulls the rubber out of the track and then you have to keep back in it. So maybe with that, it changes it a little bit.

But I think we're going to have a lot of similarities to the last race. And it's really going to put it on our teams and on us as drivers to really try and make sure that we are smart about how hard we push. I hope it widens out a little bit more so that you do feel like you have a little bit more wiggle room to try and save it. But I think that we have another race coming up that could be extremely exciting to figure out how to play it. Yeah, I agree. If the wear is there, I enjoyed the race earlier this year because of the drivers were

the ones responsible for trying to get that thing to the finish line, and that was fun to watch see who could do it the best. Hopefully we'd get a little bit of that. Thanks for giving us the time today. Congratulations. Just a statement, statement victory, something I think you'll definitely be proud of the rest of your life. You don't do what you did as a race car driver. You don't do that very often. Many people don't really have those moments. You either, you know, you win races in all kinds of ways, but not many times you get to go up against one of the greatest road course racers and beat him at his game. And so I was thrilled to see it. You're a great dude. Thanks for the time today, bud, and good luck in Bristol.

I appreciate it. We had a blast as well. So hopefully all enjoyed watching. And yeah, let's go make Bristol just as fun. All right, man. Hey everybody, I want to talk to you a little bit about safety culture. You may know safety culture's logo from Shane Van Gisbergin's car, but safety culture is more than just a sponsor. It's also the workplace operations tool for the trackhouse racing team. And what does that actually mean? Well, the team uses safety culture's app to manage everything from pre-race inspections on the car to assembly checks,

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I expect it to still be a bit of a challenge. I was going to say I didn't expect it. I really was, you know, I think with all of the truck and Xfinity and the racing, the K&N series, as long as they don't have weather that washes all of that off the racetrack. Those races, they're not going to treat the racetrack before the truck race. So the trucks, I think, are going to widen this track out. I think trucks will widen it out for sure. And then they're going to treat it with resin before the Xfinity cars get on it.

We'll definitely use most of the racetrack. They're going to have plenty of practices. And so as long as there's no weather, I think that the wear issues, they'll still be wear. but I don't think drivers are going to really have to kind of dial it back. Every 30 laps, somebody's blowing on. You won't have that. I don't either. I don't think so either.

I do think, though, that you can cord. I think you may have a guy or two cord a tire or get a tire toward, you know, they're going to have to get to pit road a little quicker than maybe they perhaps want to if it runs extensive, like 70, 80 laps. I was going to say 7080, a guy that's really fast. Pushed a little bit too much. That's what I want. Denny said on action stetch from rental they can run at least 10 to 15 more laps because the team. teams just are smarter. They have a better approach to all of this.

Well, there's that. I mean, the teams now will go with geometry and front-end setups that'll try to help the tire. And the drivers will be a little smarter. They'll be more rubber-down. So I think, you know, all of that adds up. And you're still going to have that one-off that just tries to get a little too aggressive on Canber or something like that. Oh, for sure. And because it'll make a car so much faster, but it won't last. So we'll see. the guys that go with it just for the speed and be like, oh, we'll just back it way down and we'll have it there and we need it. Yeah. So that'll be

fun to see. And for those asking too, it is, we talked a good year yesterday and it is the exact same tire codes, the exact same track prep as they did the last time. I could not be nothing different. And I know, I'm pumped about it. I'm so glad that they went

that direction again. Yeah. You should run the cup race, man. I think it'd be fun. The first race was, the three oldest guys in the field finished first, second, third. I mean. I think if I, if you could say, if you could plot me right down in the middle of that race, the first Bristol race, I'd have probably been all right. Yeah.

I think you would have been, we'd have blown her right front the first time. And then we would have been all right from there. Yeah. Well, I want to step back to Watkins Glen real quick. Talk about Truex after the race, frustrated over the aggressive level. Some of the race car drivers showed it, how do these guys call them? themselves the best in the world, he says, when all they do is drive through you. And, you know, I hear what he's saying.

I do agree that if, no matter, you know, if you drop, you know, in the in the, in the, in the, in the cup level at the end of that race, super aggressive. If you drop down Xfinity truck, it just gets so much worse. We're seeing, they're seeing quite a bit of that happening now at the, at the late model stock and the grassroots level. there's more aggression, more physical contact, more pushing and shoving. Drivers are getting more brazen, less respect. And that's all true. And that's troubling, concerning to a point. But if I'm a driver, I hate it.

I'm like, I don't like being disrespected. I want somebody to give me a chance to make a corner, right? But if you're watching. If I'm an owner, certainly pissed off too, because I'm at, I don't kind of. I can't control the car, can't drive it, I feel even less helpless. But as a series owner or as a fan, well, maybe some fans don't love this. But as I think for me, I love the aggression. I love the contact.

And I love a guy, I love their being people in the field that will put your ass in the wall. And I might not pull for them. I might think they are a bad human being. because they make those decisions. But I like what it does to the drama. I like the drama. I want to see if this other guy is going to come back and redeem himself. Get the other guy back.

You know, will this create a rivalry? Whatever, right? We need all those things. Those ingredients are important as fans. As a series owner, you want to see the aggression, but you want it to stop at a certain level, right? You don't want it to continue to escalate. That's what I think I've only.

concerned about is that we've seen a rise in the lack of respect and guys just basically just driving through each other at the end of these races. And it seems to be ramping up, right? What we saw this past weekend was almost like the perfect amount. I thought so. Right? The Xfinity race, that could be a different argument with all the overtimes. I was at a wedding. Yeah, yeah, we were at we're at Dawton's wedding and Dalton got completely married and they were still in overtime.

Yes, which is another conversation to have here a bit. We were still saving fuel. I would just, there's not an end of this conversation or any kind of a button, but I'm just saying that I'm a bit concerned how the aggression is just kind of ratcheting up.

And it's like, you know, it's good. Some of this is good, but too much of this, is bad, right? Too much of this is foolish and unproductive and unprofessional. So, you know, we'll just have to watch and see where it goes from here. And this is the part of the year, especially in the playoffs where the, you know, it's anything goes, right? All take, yeah. Yeah. He's not wrong. I mean, it got, it got, it's gotten so bad that they've moved restart zones. Yeah. To get us away from each other more. You know, you got Coda,

the Indie Road course. Yeah, Cota, like, that's a, that's a great example. Turn 1 at Cota is free for all. It's not even, it's so, it's a video game. It's kind of, it's a little embarrassing. Oh my gosh, it's so bad. You know, like when the, you know, look, I, when the, when the emce guys come and run with us or the other, you know, other guys come from other disciplines, SVG and all them, and they're coming in there and they're like, holy crap. Like, wow. You know, that, that's, it's a little classless.

It's a little embarrassing. You want some of it, though. You want them to come into the series and get pushed around, but you don't want the whole field looking like a bunch of buffoons going in the corner. Which we were. Who comes out? Who comes out as anyone's guess? It's not really any, and there's no skill involved.

It's just all like, who doesn't get wrecked? That's it, exactly. I mean, we're talking about Phoenix and the dog leg and how people go five wide there. And there was clear intention to move the start finish line there. because we would have, I mean, probably a factor, not the only factor, was because we're going to have thrilling restarts now. I feel like there's at least some intention to this higher aggressive level. That shows you that it can be done.

These guys can do it, but that turn one at Cota. I mean, yeah, the Cota term one and a little bit of the Indy Road course, those kind of things were just not good. And so, you know, you got a guy at Cota going to the bottom of the race track, trying to outbreak everybody and pass 10 cars knowing he has no chance of making the exit of the corner. He's got to bounce off the guy in front of him just to get turned. And he's going to do it. And he knows he knows he's going to do it.

And that guy's going to get sent into somebody else, into somebody else, into somebody else. And then there's like, you know, there's three cars with bent toe links by the time they come out of the corner. And one of them's up, one of them's backwards. And guy, I've been running sixth all day, having a great day. And now he's 30th. And so it's just really frustrating. The other thing, too, is the cost of repair. So for, I do know that in the cars tour,

when we go to the SD2 tire that has less fall off, it's everybody's more competitive, can run harder, there's less fall off, it makes it harder to pass. You have to be aggressive to pass, especially late in the race. Cost to compete for our teams is probably up 15 to 20% in damage repair, just fenders and doors and quarter panels and bumpers and bumper bars

and front bumper bars and crush panels and duckwork because you're replacing this shit every week. Even the guys that run in the top five have to put a new damn right front fender and a half a nose on and a bumper bar. They weren't doing that last year. We ran on the 45s and you had to take care of the tire,

be smarter. You couldn't even, you know, you didn't have that aggression. Think about what that's like in the, Cup series, you know, when you got guys, you know, knocking the sides off these cars and you've been, you, you've made the front and the back of the car more crushable. And so those little aluminum braces that are going out and jutting out to the bumper, they are all, you know, bending and conforming in impact. And those things all have to get replaced. Do you think the cup car, since it's so solid, do these guys know they can have more contact? I do. Without having the, you know,

Joey Lugano spoke into that. Without, they do. They beat the s** of these cars because there's, there's less of a performance. Yeah. No tire. Penalty. Yeah. But it does bend that $500 freaking aluminum brace on the right front of the bumper.

There's like six of them across the bumper, right? I'm sure that damn thing ain't cheap. Well, that sounds like your problem. Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Like, I'm, the driver ain't thinking about that in the moment. They ought to be. Owner, no. Yeah.

Really? Yes. When you. Well, when you're racing at the cars tour level. I guess I'm never going to drive for down. Cars tour level, I 100% agree with you. Well, why do they forget? Why does it not matter at the top level?

I mean, if you're going for a cup win and you get to pay the five-hre-offender brakes. Wait, wait, wait, take the fucking. You can't come in here with this. You can't come in this conversation and go, well, if you're going for the win, that's a whole different conversation. I'm talking about the guy that's restarting 30th. Here's why. Dye bombs down on the inside at Cota.

That makes no sense. and destroys, you know, because he destroys, you know, $10,000 where the body work to get five spots. We're at a level where if you don't do it, it's going to be done to you so you might as well do it. Right? Is that not the mentality in the garage? Yeah, and honestly, that guy that was running 30th

probably doesn't even belong in the Sydney series. Or I'm talking to Cups, but either way. Either way, you know what I mean. We need to pick a series and talk about that. Dude, I'm going to tell you right now, every freaking Tuesday when I come in here

to record this show I walk by all of our what? Just the way you said freaking Tuesday I gotta come in here every freaking Tuesday

every Tuesday I come in here I park in the back of the shop and I walk through the shop and every Tuesday they have all four of our Xfinity cars in several versions

of of deconstruction. They got all the suspension off the cars, and now they're out in the wash bay getting cleaned up. And they're all destroyed. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Not all of them. Yeah.

By the way, do I get a win bonus? Listen to me. I'll take you out there right now, and we'll look at that 88 car, and all the crush panels are knocked out of it. Well, he probably hit the wall in the front trash. He won the race, though. Can you be too upset about that?

Listen, I'm just trying to tell you. You're up my conversation here, man. I'm trying to make a point, and you're just, you're, you're, you're, you're, all over it. So, you're the owner of this car, unfortunately, yeah, you said that desk, you don't have to worry about it. But if you're the owner of that car and you walk by four cars every single Tuesday that need a tail piece, need a nose piece, need all the front bumper bars cut off of them,

they need all the, uh, crush panels rebuilt. They're, the right front fender and the quarter panel on one car is no good. the other fender and the other corner panel, then the door on the other car is no good. All that stuff adds up. We don't, you know, when we had steel bodies, we'd hack off the problem area and rebuild it. Yeah.

And it was cheaper. And now, you know, I mean, these parts and pieces add up over the course of the year. And every week we are repairing parts, body parts, and crash panels and bumper bars. And this is just the Xfinity series. Spoilers, everything.

Yeah, it's crazy. And we would walk in here two years ago, and they would be tearing the cars down, and you could walk around them and go, yeah, all that's going to buff out. And now we're not. Now you walk in here, and they're all missing giant chunks of the overall body

because all the shit tore up and it's in the garbage. Yeah. And so we got a big pile out in the back that used to not be there of fenders, noses, hoods, all the shit just busted up. And so, and it ain't, you know, it's because of the lack of respect. All that happens, mostly, in the end of the race. For sure.

On those final restarts, green white checkers, green white checkers, green white checkers, green white checkers. Yeah. And, you know, it's just, it's, I guess my point is, is it's like, it's, it's 15 to 20% more expensive to race at the grassroots level. in most cases because of the aggressive nature of the racing that changed a little bit over the last couple years. And it's no different trucks, Xenity. It's gotten more expensive. Denny was talking about it.

He's like, man, everything's great about, you know, Denny's like, hey, one of the things that we have it factored into the expense of running our cup stuff is the damage repair. All this carbon fiber, all these purpose-built parts that we have to buy from these other, You know, third-party people are expensive.

And as they made that car absorb the crashes better, that means getting torn up. That means more damage to the car. They used to run, man, the first time they wrecked the next gen, they ran into the fucking wall at 80-mile-an-hour, and you looked at it and you went, damn, it ain't even hurt. Yeah. How in the hell?

And even Denny, Denny wrecked in the S's and finished the race. Yeah. If you wrecked them the S's when you were driving, you were done. I know. But now they've made the car where it bends and, and it's torn up, and it's expensive. Those parts aren't cheap parts. They're very expensive on the cup car because it's all custom third-party vendor.

They got the monopoly on bumpers, right? The guy making the bumpers is like, hell, yeah. Every green and white checker is high-fiving somebody. Yes. So, I don't know. I don't even know how we got on this conversation. Andrew, I'm sorry if I offended you. Do you, all right, let me ask how we fix this then because you were talking about,

well, the steel bodies. Wait, that was my argument with you. is like it is on the drivers to fix this. Ultimately it's on the drivers. Yes. They're the ones that are hitting the gas and brake and steering. Andrew. If the car is what's allowing them to race more aggressively.

It isn't the car. No, in the Cup series it is. In the Xfinity and Trucks, it's not. So then in the Xfinity and Trucks series, how do you curb the aggression? Is it a... NASCAR has to start cracking down. You know, there's...

I mean, we talk about the line with Austin Dillon. Is that where NASCAR now has to find this new line of aggression? Let's go back. and I'm sorry, Hosevar, great job this weekend. But let's go back to when he was racing in the trucks

and he's right-hooking people, right? Or just turning guys around, right? And NASCAR had some opportunities to park him in the penalty box, like at IRP, right? There was a particular wreck, I think. And they didn't, right? And that's, that's, so I think it's not,

that's not the entire fix, but that's part of how you, That's part of how you sort of send a message, draw a line, the governing body at the grassroots level, the cars tour, the SA tour, how they penalize people like that fight with Matt Tiff. Right. Matt gets kicked in the face. They got to handle that guy. He needs to not be at the racetrack for a long time. The guy that kicked Matt should not be allowed in a racetrack for a long time.

No questions asked. I'm sorry, that should be the way that goes. Matt, if ASA has a rule, don't go into somebody else's pit. Matt will get penalized. He is getting penalized for going into that pit. That's a rule. I'm not going to change my rule because Matt got kicked in the face. All right?

Yeah. I'm sorry that happened to Matt. Shouldn't have been there. Don't go into the guy's pit. So those fans will go, what the hell is Matt getting penalized for? but those rules are important for for keeping Matt out of that pit and keeping that guy that's going to kick somebody in the face

while they're on the ground out of the racetrack and so that's where it starts and the same thing on the racetrack right okay we in the cars tour you spend a guy out you're in the wreck you go to the back if you're in the wreck you go to the back everybody goes to the back we sent so many people to the back one in one of these races

I think the top you know like six of the top ten got sent to the back and in the But it's the only way to get these guys to understand I can't drive through these people, and I'm not going to win this race doing it that way. I'm going to get penalized. When I ran my first race, back in the late-mile stock car, I turned a guy off turn, too. Complete accident. I'm in a really freaking good spot.

I wish I could take it back because I felt like I could win the race. But they put me in the rear. It's the rules. And so I think that that sort of mentality of holding people, super accountable more so than probably necessary. Like in the cars tour race at Hickory, Connor Halls drives through the 15, and the 15 turns him at the intern three and four

coming to the checker. Both of them are out. And so Millington. And so, you know, it sucks for Millington. You used to wreck a guy, put him in the wall in the last lap, and you were to win. But we can't do it anymore because you're going to continue to foster that sort of mentality

and you see it in the truck series. That's where I think, you know, not everybody, not all these drivers are going through the truck series to get the cup, but like truck, Exfinity, like there needs to be maybe some stricter parameters and drivers held more accountable to things that they create, problems they create on the racetrack and things they choose to do with other drivers. NASCAR tries to stay out of the, well, you know, we don't really know if he meant to wreck the guy.

You know, we can't, we don't want to, we don't want to get in the, the gray area of, you know, assuming that that was intentional. But maybe they need to, you know, have some sort of a, hey, if you're involved, you're guilty. Yeah, but that's tough, you know, it's tough, it's tough to govern. I think you do it right. Yeah, sorry, go ahead.

You got to do it early. Like, I think if you start them kids young. But then they go into the truck series and it's like, There's no penalty for any of that stuff. Like, what do you think about maybe a system like, what does Formula One has like that system where if you get so many points, you get so many points, you start getting penalties.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like wrecking points, kind of. And then if you get so many in there, you lose your license or something. I think the overall idea is there's not a much, there's not much deterrent or discipline. There's none. Right, in the truck, Xfinity,

and even maybe the cup to a certain extent. When it comes to dirty, driving a rough drive. Now we've seen some things this year with Austin Dillon and whatever. NASCAR said, hey, that's crossing the line. That was good. But I think I would love to see the younger guys that are coming up through the lower levels be held more accountable.

And NASCAR really say, hey, you know, we're going to be a bit over aggressive on penalizing for what we think or what we see is aggressive dirty driving. So that maybe they adapt. a different style of racing and race craft. Look at SVG, right? They have such strict rules in supercars that he got to Cup racing and he's like,

damn, these boys run through you. They bump you out of the way they push you around. He's like, we can't do that in Supercar. We're not allowed to touch each other. We've got to figure out how to get around a guy literally without, you know, it's a penalty. It's like a, you know, encroachment. if you bump into another car.

Remember Martinsville? Whenever somebody got in him, he's like, oh, that guy was a little rude. Yeah. It was Martin'sville. No, but that's every single corner. And so, yeah, you know,

that's a great, that's a great understanding of a guy that was taught to race a certain way, his entire life, right? Coming over here and seeing, like, how undisciplined we are. And which I love some of this, right? We all agree.

What we saw this weekend, at Watkins Glen was good. You need some of it. Right. We need some of it. But there needs to be, I think the... Finding that line then. Finding that line and having more accountability for the drivers in the lower series

as they're coming in to the Cup Series. I think the most contact that you were going to see from SVG was into one when he bumped Chris and it was only the little bit. He probably was like, he probably is like, I'm, you know, this is not so much out of character, but he's like, I'm going to do all I'm willing to do. And that was it. Yeah. That was all he was willing to do.

in terms of being physically aggressive. You could see Chris, he's like, he was bracing himself for the last corner because he's like expecting it, but I don't think, I don't think SVG would erect him. I don't think he'd hit him super hard just like. He might, if he could get inside of him, he might have tried to wiggle him a little bit.

They'd make contact. They might erase side by side down the front, but I, by no, I don't think SVG wrecks them. Yeah, but if we don't, if things, I guess, don't, if things continue to ratchet up, what happens to SVG? Does he get more and more aggressive?

He's going to have to. Because he knows, right? He's the only way you play the, game. Yeah, why he's going to have to. What? Do you want to see that happen? The SVG? I mean, he's going to, yeah, he's going to naturally. I know, but do you want it

to happen? Do you want a guy that's lived under one code his whole life have to go down this other route because it's the only way you can play the game? I mean, I kind of want to see it. Yeah, okay. All right, well. He's kind of adapted to that. Oh, it'll happen. It'll happen. You'll see him

slowly getting there. That little bump that he gave Chris Bisher in his time one in about five years, he'll just be sending them off into the damn Rupples strips. Later. Get you out of here. And I know we were saying this weekend at Watkins Glen was fine, but that was a good level of aggression. Perfect. I thought.

Yeah. I mean, I could have stood for even more, but I thought it was perfect. Yeah, the way they race through the carousel, and I could have saw that the last three corners have been fine. Yep. All right, so let's run through the playoffs real quick. Some interesting names that are in really good positions. Austin Cendrick is third in points, plus 43. what in the hell.

Alex Bowman at plus 41. Daniel Suarez plus 36. Those three guys sitting there in the top five. No one had that happen. No one. Some drivers that are in trouble. Chase Briscoe is plus six. He's probably thrilled to have that situation.

Byron at plus 25. That's a little risky going into Bristol. Ty Gibbs, Denny Hamlin, plus six minus six. They're nervous, but Denny's good at Bristol. I'm sure he'll try to put together a really smart race, and he's got a great shot at getting out of there and surviving this round. Keselowski, Martin Trix Jr., Harrison Burton, minus 12 to minus 20. Where are you guys?

So you're minus 12, T.J., going into Bristol. What's the approach? I think we need 50 points. Dammit. Like, well, the approach is stage points. You guys, it's like Denny talking about how he needs 20 points at Atlanta. So fans aren't hip, and I'm not either. Like fans aren't up on this new thought process of, well, we want to get this many points.

And so we know, you know, right, behind closed doors, if we do X, Y, and Z, there's 50 points. Yeah, to tell a fan right now, we need to win. You are going to win. Oh, we have to aim to win. Yeah, 100%. So you're not going to stage, you're not going for stage points. I mean, we are going to go for stage points, but you got to try. But if you get a chance of short pit out of, out of, out of, you're going to.

of the top 10. Are you going to do it? It's true. I don't know. I don't make that call. That's going for the win. I mean, you've got to be fast. You've got to be a really competitive. You got to be a top five car. We have to be a top five car. We won't transfer. That's basically it. Yeah. Well, it would be interesting to see how it all goes down. Who do you think makes it in and out? Like I think, I could see. We got time for that? Yeah, sure. I'd be curious to know. Well, who do I think makes it? I guess it's easier to say who doesn't.

Sure. Harrison Burton will have a hard time going in and making up 20 points. Honestly, don't think Truex gets it done. I don't think so either. Minutes 14. That's a bit of a tall order. I believe Chase Briscoe will struggle to not get kicked out by a Denny Hamlin. You know, if you say, can Denny go in there and make the six points up on Chase Briscoe?

Yes. And then I think it's a bit of a toss-up between the Ty Gibbs and Brack has allowed. I don't think Brad beats Denny, but Brad could possibly outpoint Ty Gibbs. Ty is going to have to struggle. It'll be important that Ty does not do well in stage one and two to give Brad that shot. Yeah, and don't forget, though, we're going to a place where I look at some of these guys that are fifth, sixth, seventh, maybe not Chase, but I look at Swares and Reddick. those guys struggled with that high tire wear stuff. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I just think they have enough points that they're safe. They do. I mean, if they court a tire and go a couple laps down, you know, they don't get that yellow like NASCAR was hesitant to throw there. They'd have to be just a pure shi-day. There's opportunity for that stuff going into here. Okay.

I mean, Brad finished third at Bristol earlier this year. Ty Gibbs finished ninth. Briscoe finished 13th. Those are where those guys ended up. And Ty Gibbs was leading late in that race. Yeah, had tires. I ain't going to really look at that race. I have a hard time.

It's kind of a one-off. I do. I look at that race and go, yep, that's a good baseline for how I think this will go. So we just don't know what the tire wear is going to be and whether that'll be as much of a challenge.

If that's a challenge, then who the hell knows what happens, right? Golly. This could all get flipped. Yes. So which is fun. That's why we love it. This week's segment of Dirty Air

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But first off, I wanted to talk a little bit about my experiences. I've been, I got into some sports betting earlier this year, this spring. We obviously built out our upstairs room at Dirtymo Media and put up a bunch of TVs. And we're, you know, yeah, the state of North Carolina opened up. and have all these sports books and we have the Fandu connection here. So I was like, man, I'm going to get into it. Let's try it out.

Had a lot of fun this spring. We bet all of us, I think, bet a lot on the NBA finals. I actually probably wasn't going to watch the finals a bunch, if at all. Ended up watching two and a half series, full series of the finals, which is a major difference. and what I would traditionally partake in, right? And only because we were betting on the games, right? And ended up becoming a big fan of this guy right here, Luca, from Dallas.

Just, I mean, I'd never heard of, I'd heard of his last name. I'd heard of his name, but I hadn't ever really watched him play. I'm not, you know, being around Charlotte, you know, I might play, I might pay attention to the horns a little bit. But anyways, so got me a couple T-shirts. All of this, because of having a little skin the game. It was a lot of fun. During the summer, I spent a lot of time down in South Carolina,

a state that's not open, so I didn't do anybody. Basically, kind of took a break, which was fine. And then with the NFL cranking back up, I skipped last week, kind of thought about it, but just didn't do it. It's not a bad way to take off. Yeah. So that's true because you don't really know what's coming.

Exactly. With everybody's first game of year. But anyways, yesterday, or Sunday, I decided, I was going to sit at home, watch a lot of football, watch Washington play against the Giants. I was going to watch the race. And I was like, hey, I might put some money on some of these games. So what I like to do, everybody's different.

Listen, I'm not an expert gambler by any means, so I'll take any help I can get. I follow a bundle, a big, you know, full dozen of accounts on social media. It's just a suggestion, right? These people are putting up their ideas of what they think the best bets are, the same way we do at Dirty Mo Doe with our NASCAR bets every Thursday. You know, don't blindly bet somebody's advice, like do a little research, right? But I'm getting into it. I'm going to have some fun.

I'm thinking I'm going to, you know, bet a couple of units. I'm pretty, I bet very small when it comes to value. But I was like, you know, I'll trust a couple of these. I looked at a handful of bets through my social media and picked a couple. And I ended up on the day overall, 15 and 9. Damn, that's good. I thought it was great. That's good.

Yeah. Ended up with more than I started with. That's the goal. Yeah. And so last spring, I was doing big parlayes with multiple players in these NBA games and not really enjoying much success. You get six of eight or five of six. and it was always like falling just a little short.

And so I thought, you know, when I went back to it, I was really going to just bet small but also bet singular and have a better shot at success winning the bet, but winning much less money. So, but I did go in on this parlay. It's a big one. And it's a big one. And dude, it hit.

I could not freaking believe it. That's amazing. Yeah. That's awesome. And so I didn't even, I didn't even really know. I didn't put a bunch in there, so I knew right away when it hit that I wasn't going to be like, you know, jumping up and down about it. But a win's a win. And I bet the commander's money line.

Oh. Dude, I'm surprised there's nothing on social media because Amy had plenty of opportunities to get some funky stuff happening in the living room when that game was coming down to the final moments. Oh, my God. Because I was all over the place. Because they didn't score touchdown, right? Yeah. This was a, this was the, this, I'm not sure if this is all true because, um, I think that teams that allowed three touchdowns and scored no touchdowns were one in like 2,700 in the history of the NFL. Checks out.

Probably. It had been done one time. I saw, I say, I've seen stats where it said this is the first time a team scored three TDs and long. to a team that didn't score any TDs. But I've also seen that stat where there was one game that this happened. But I'm not sure. Either way. That's still wild.

Yeah, they kick seven field goals and beat the Giants who scored three touchdown. And the only way this happened was because on one of the first plays, one of the early kickoffs to Washington, they ran it back for a touchdown that got called back because of a penalty, but on that run, on that, on that run, the kicker for the giants pulled a hamstring. And so they had to go for two when they scored. And that allowed, they didn't do well, right, in that scenario. And that allowed Washington to add up seven field goals to beat their three touchdowns. That's crazy. It's so crazy. It's absolutely crazy. It's only happens to Washington. I think they just picked up that kicker too, like this week or something. This week.

The dude comes in. Oh, they got him on his, they got him on their shoulders. Yeah, he won the game. I was going to say they carry him off like Rudy. Yes. I'm sitting there thinking, you could totally make a movie about this shit, and I'd go watch it. This guy's life, right?

That's Washington football, baby. So anyways, 15 and not overall. I don't know if it'll be that good this weekend. I don't know if I'll do any betting this weekend because I'll be busy, but we'll just kind of see. It was fun. I had fun. That's what it's about.

Yep, I did. I don't bet a lot of money because I don't want, I just get a little nervous. It becomes not as fun. It becomes not as fun. It does. You stressed out now about what you put on it. Yeah, and I love the idea of like, hey, man,

you pick whatever, you feel like your unit is, right? And that's your single unit, and that's kind of where you live, and you don't change and deviate. Like, if, you know, if you don't chase losses. Nope, definitely. Golly. Right. So if you lose, don't go, okay, well,

well, let's double the bet for the next one. Hawaii plays in five minutes. Yeah, try to get it all back. You might do that on the roulette table, but not. I think you should go out there and be like, you guys all get new fender brakes this week, boys. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, we just fixed the cost problem. There you go, guys. I really do enjoy it, and the apps make it so easy. Yeah. That's are cool, man. They're fun. They are. They have a lot of good promotions, too.

There's a bunch. Oh, yeah, there are. I know. So I think, you know, I think, you know, I was able to boost this parlay. I hadn't played in a while, so I had all the rewards and boosts sitting there waiting for me to opt in. And so just about every day there's a new boost or a new reward.

Oh, yeah. They got him. They got him good. No. They do a good job. I put it down all summer, never even thought about it. Didn't even bother me. So, I mean, I'm in a good place with it where I feel like I enjoy doing it.

But, yeah, it's something that you want to do responsibly. We were going to do something here. for the remainder of the NFL season that we want the listeners to help us enjoy, right? And play along. And play along if you want, right? So Thursday night football is on prime. We're going to work for prime, coincidentally, next year. So we will start, we're going to, what we, what I like to do, what I, you know,

I can't bet on racing, right? So I can't enjoy, I want to enjoy what Alex is doing. and I want to go in on some bets with Alex, but I need to do that in another area. So we're going to pick Thursday night football for the rest of the NFL season. We're going to all debate the money line. For example, this week it's Patriots Jets.

The Jets are favored at minus 260. We can argue for or against either team, but we're all going to come to an agreement at the end of the day that we're all going to place a unit. on the money line bet that we all agree on. So, do we take the Jets or do we take the upset and go with the Patriots? I'm a Jets fan, so I'm a little biased here. So we have to bet the Jets.

Yeah, but I also actively root against Boston teams so that I will not have a But sounds like we're all going to go with the Jets. T.J. are you going to get in on this? Can they both lose? Because I hate them both. But I really feel like the Jets, I think they're at home too. I think it's in New Jersey there, I think. Really?

Yeah, I think it is, yeah. Well, I'm going to open up my, I'm going to get into my Fandual account right here, and I'm going to go ahead and put my bet down for the Jets to win Thursday night football on Prime. The whole D&P, the whole, I was going to say DMP, the whole Dirtymo Media DJD crew is going to make this bet, and should be a lot of fun. We did this the other day. we were, there were some, I think we bet on, we lost the money on the Jets

last week. We did, yeah. So we're going to chase that loss. Yeah, we're going to stick with one unit here. But that, that should be a lot of fun this year. Does Aaron Rogers make it past three plays? Man, it's the home opener that. That's the last time. What did he look like this past week?

He looks good. Yeah, it looked okay. He looks okay. All right, it's $2.80 now. I know. I hate the price on it, but. Hey, I'm just going in, man. You're going in?

Yeah. Is there any boost? I think there is a 50% boost or something. All right, so coming out of, walking's Lynn, how did you do this past weekend? Good. Our best bet on the show was Chris Busher top 10. So I wish I bet him to win, too.

He sprung a little bit on that, but he's money on road courses, so that was easy. We also, Austin Dillon, my favorite friend over there, he spun out Christopher Bell, we've won my top 10 bet on that one, but it's all right. That race was crazy. I mean, putting Waukins good on the, playoffs, I think made that way more chaotic than it usually is.

All the factors like we talked about adding into that made that race. What do you think? Going into Bristol, I'm sure you got Hamlin on your cards with probably automatic top 10 or something like that. He's been so struggling recently. I think he's approached the playoffs. I don't know what he's, I think he overthought the first two. He fixes it.

You think so? Yeah. I mean, he's on the short list. I bet he's top five. I think Christopher Bell wins. He's got pointed points cushion. You're going for an overall winner? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I also, I think the way that this is gone, I'm going, Josh Barry has a long shot one or two. Well, Josh was fast there in the spring. Yeah, exactly. But he probably has not really a long shot. He'll have like 30 to 1 odds.

He hasn't had a top 10 in at least 10 races. Dude, Josh has been struggling. Yeah, so I think the odds are going to be pretty much in our favor. Okay. All right, man. Those are some good bets to make. There'll be more information on the upcoming race at Bristol in the Dirty Modo show with Tampa Tim,

Steve Littart, and everybody else on that team. Coming out Thursday on Dirty MoD Media. You want to listen to that show to be able to try to make an educated bed. And Tim's is a pretty good year, I'd say. Yeah, pretty good year. Yeah, it's been pretty positive. You know what I'd love to see.

You know what I see from a lot of these guys on social media is they sort of tell you their winning percentage or they even give you a stat like a 15 and 9 or something like that. It'd be kind of nice to know where all of you all individually netted out at the end of the year. Yeah. If you read the articles on dirtymo Media.com, I have my record of the box. bottom of the articles. All right.

So you should have dropped some of that information in the show so everybody kind of knows, all right, I trust this guy. I like this guy. This guy is giving me better information. Oh, yeah. You guys can get competitive with each other. But Dirty Modo, man, a lot of fun. I can't wait to see what comes out on this Thursday and what other information there is for

the upcoming weekend. I'm sure you'll talk some NFL as well. Always do. College, NFL. We'll talk about it all. All right, man. All right. Now it's time for a Cars Tour update.

It's been a while since we've had one of those. We had an awesome race at South Boston this past weekend. Carson, Quaple bringing home the victory for junior motorsports. Eric's got the rundown. Three races are all that remain in a season-long venture to a championship. And for both the pro-late models and the late-model stock cars, the fight for the title is separated by just single digits, setting the stage for a three-round title fight of historic proportions.

In a year that has provided photo finishes, intense racing, the birth of new stars, and tested the strengths of series veterans. 2024 seems like the perfect year to have it all come down to the wire. Historic and beautiful South Boston Speedway would serve as the playground for the 15th late model stock race on the 2024 ZMAX Cars Tour's season presented by Sound Gear, and it was the seventh trip to the 4 tenths of a mile oval in series history. Florence winner Ryan Millington laid down the quick time in Thunder Road Harley-Davidson, Polarward qualifying, ahead of Trayton, Lapsovich, and Lane Riggs, who rounded out the top three. As for the title contenders, Connor Hall would start 15th and Brendan Queen would roll off eighth,

as the two came into the night separated by just three points in the standings. This would prove to be an uphill battle for both drivers and teams, as no one has ever won a Cars Tour sanction race at South Boston after starting outside of the top five. The feel was set, and it was time for the Autos by Nelson.com 280 from Sobo. Didn't take long for them to think about going three wide as Lane Riggs stuck the nose to the inside of Lapsovich and the 77, and he's still looking down to the bottom as Millington leads Lept one. Millington would go on to lead the majority of the laps with Lapsovich and Riggs not far behind. All the while, two-time and defending cars tour champion Carson Quaple, making his return to the tour for the first time in over a month, had worked his way up into a position where he could take advantage of the choose on a late-race restart.

With 25 laps to go, Quaple decided to try the bottom on the front row for a restart and give it all that he had up against Millington for the lead. 25-lapse shootout from Sobo. A restarted there by Boppel. He can slide to have. I thought he might try it. And he is clear. for the race lead. Carson Guapel to the point. The race would run green to the finish with Quaple scoring his third win of 2024

and second ever at South Boston with the tour. By virtue of the win after starting six, he now holds the honors as the furthest back anyone has ever come from in the field to win a cars tour race at the Speedway. Yeah, for sure. I mean, we all, obviously we all come here to win, but for us, we're not running for points. It's not really anything to lose, I guess you'd say. So we're out here able to race a little bit differently than we. we have in the previous years and the cars too are defending championships and whatnot. So it's kind of fun just to be able to go out here and race your tail off with these guys,

these really talented group of guys, and root-route for some wins. Well, Heinkoppel at the finish was rookie Trayton Lapsovich with another solid night on the season, Pulse at Ryan Millington settled for third with Lane Riggs fourth, and championship contender Brendan Queen rounded out the top five, while points leader Connor Hall finished 7th, keeping the title fight close, which is two races remaining. Just as we saw in the late model stock side, the winner from Florence and Spencer Davis would go on to earn himself a Malle Polar Award extending the championship points lead over Caden Honeycutt in the process. The two championship contenders would bookman the top five on the start and both narrowly avoided disaster on an opening lap crash that involved outside pole sitter T.J. DeKere, Jake Bowman, Logan Jones, and more.

Once the race settled into a rhythm, Davis proved to have the dominant car and would go on to win his second race in a row maintaining control. the title fight with just two races to go. Tough love, man. You can't be sidel for ordinary. You know what I mean? We settle for ordinary so long in my career, truck racing once we got out of that KBM stuff. And, man, I'm here to win.

That's the only thing there is to do, here to win. We wanted to put them on them this weekend. We won every practice, sat at the pole, won the race. Justin McKee gave me a run for my money man on the outside there, that last restart. And we got away, and it was just, it was a smooth sailing,

but determination, man, that's what takes it. That's what gets these wins. Everyone grinds deeper. Everyone works harder. Tristan McKee was second. Caden Cople, third after repairing damage on the right front from being involved in the big one on the start, Honeycutt fourth, and T.J. DeKare also rebounded to round out the top five. The series now has a few weeks off to allow the late model stock teams to turn their attention

to the prestigious Valley Star Credit Union 300 at Mortonsville, taking place September 28th, the final leg of the Virginia Triple Crown for the Late Model Stock Car. The tour will reignite at Tri-County Speedway, Saturday, October 12th, with the season finale the following week in what is a two-day event, October 18th and 19th, at North Wilkesboro Speedway. For ticket information, event schedules, and so much more, visit Pars Racing Tour.com. If you can't join us at the races, don't forget, you can watch every lap live on Flow Racing. For the ZMAX Cars Tour, I'm Eric Brennan. All right, it's time for the white flag, dropping every Sunday after the race to tear down with Jeff Gluck and George

Yankees, they covered everything from Watkins Glen over the weekend. And yesterday, action is detrimental with Denny Hamlin. Must listen to audio from one of the drivers out there competing, trying to move forward in the playoffs. And door bumper clear with guest Connor Zillich, the winner from the Xfinity

race this past weekend. That all come out yesterday. Tomorrow, you got Speed Street with Connor Daly and Chase Holden. The Indicard Championship race was held this past weekend. We'll get their feelings about how that all went down. And Tim Brewer, the crew chief from back in the day crew chief for junior johnson and so many different drivers throughout

his career he's going to come on here and tell us all about his life kind of going through a run here lately of of late 70s early 80s crew chiefs and they all sort of have a tie to each other um so it's been kind of fun doing that's crew chief month september yeah it is it's been fun for me anyways i love that that that part of the the history of the sport but that's our interview for tomorrow and then Thursday as we mentioned dirty moadow will come out DJD reloaded with asked junior and more and then we got the question of the week from chase brisco with dale junior try one of jordan's meatballs okay jordan bianke that is yes okay so do you trust jordan bianke's cooking basically this is a discussion on the tear down not blindly no no no I need to see it I know you'd have

to be there to see he just walking with a meatball and eating it that's not happening I you know what, I'll be honest with you. That's a great question. Because... It's out there. It is out there. I'll be honest. I'm a skeptic of anyone cooking

unless it's Amy, myself, or I'm at a restaurant. So if I'm somewhere else... T.J.'s face. I've cooked out and you've ate... Geez. I don't not eat. I'm just saying.

I don't know you're looking at me like, whoa. Well, you know, I mean, you're over there cooking the steaks. I'd rather be doing it. I would feel more comfortable if I was doing it. But I let you do it. I would feel more comfortable if Amy was doing it. But I'll let you do it. I still ate the steak.

I'm just saying, I, if you're, there's levels of comfort, right? I'm a 10. If Amy cooks it or if I cook it or if I eat it at a restaurant. Right. Where does it drop off? How far, say like, I'm grilling. idols down depending on where I'm at.

Now, Jordan would be way down there because I don't, I've never seen this man cook. I don't know what. I don't know. He lives. I don't even know what these things look like. Meatballs? Do they, I don't know.

You're just assuming it's going to be this traditional meatball sitting there. I would think so, right? Was it made of? Beef, chicken, turkey, what is it? Bread crumbs? I mean, what do you got? Yeah.

Could be vegan? Who knows? All right, you've thought about this more than I have. Well, you're just going to blown the answer, yes? I'm, yeah, I don't know. See, you got to trust about this. Well, that's what you're young when you're 50 years old, you'll probably answer this question like I'm answering it.

Okay. Right? You'll have all this experience, all these life lessons, and you go, the hell, I'm saying yes. I'm going to see it first. I'm going to check it out. Yeah, you got to like, are they the little ones, the bigger ones? I mean, what are we looking at here?

Yeah. All right, so. Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah. I don't know. You know, there's been some times I've been places where I'm looking over at the person cooking and I'm like, damn, I don't know.

I think we've all been there. Yeah, I don't know. I don't want to eat this. Right? I literally watched him cook liver mush for me one time. Yeah, I mean, dude, I feel. I watched that like a hawk. Dude, that's a great, that's a great, that's a great point because if I'm cooking for someone,

I feel like, I can't believe they're going to eat this shit. Oh, my God. Wow. I'm not a cook. I've never, I've never, I've never, are you comfortable eating it yourself? Yeah. I had never had it before and he's like, I'm going to try this.

Yeah, but I mean, and it ain't really what I'm cooking. I mean, I might cook you a steak or a burger or livermush or whatever. I mean, yeah, some things are more, you know, some things you're going to be like, I don't want to eat that, I don't care who's cooking it. But listen, don't come over to my house and expect me to make you some damn gourmet meal.

All right. I don't have, I ain't got no skills. I like it. I like to eat. Amy can cook really well. Amy's damn good. She's really good. Yeah.

She's made. things that I wouldn't eat normally like vegetable things and things like really good wow yeah she's a great girl you know yeah there you go I don't know if we made made much sense there but I'm a bit apprehensive

cautious about like going somewhere else and eating other people's food I feel like Jordan's a good cook though what just makes you just assume that he just looks like he would be very into the recipes it would require a lot of ingredients and very lot of prepping stuff,

and he looks like he'd be good at it. If he puts as much attention into how he dresses. Josh Snyder and David Hovis worked at a pizza joint. Oh, my God. Remember that? I would never go in there to get pizza. But yeah, those two clowns were in there by themselves, just doing whatever the hell they wanted.

And when nobody was in there ordering pizza, they were just making pizzas and making up shit. Like, let's just put this on there, blah. And they were cooking pizzas just for nobody. and then they would eat a bite and go yeah it takes about what I thought I've heard some crazy things you just don't know what's true

what ain't true but that's it for the show today I'm going to get some pizza boys all right check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter Facebook TikTok and Instagram