The Dale Jr. Download - 581 - Kansas: Every Spot Is Worth Fighting For

Episode Date: October 1, 2024

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is joined by his wife Amy for a special edition of Dirty Air. After a compelling race in Kansas to kick off the Round of 12 in the NASCAR Playoffs, there was plenty to unpack:Incredible support efforts for those affected by Hurricane HeleneJosh Berry is the latest victim of the NASCAR damaged car policyBreaking down the Chase Briscoe/Kyle Busch incidentThe points gains and losses so far in the PlayoffsDale and Amy’s Montana adventureAre you playing DRAFTYCAR?Who to bet on at Talladega this weekendChristopher Bell's question for Dale Jr21+ and present in North Carolina. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling problem? Call 877-718-5543 or visit morethanagame.nc.gov. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr. and we're back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download. It's Tuesday. It's the first of the month. We've got a great co-host that I'm excited about. It's back again. And we're going to talk about Kansas. We're going to talk about Daego. We got a lot going on. So let's get to it. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. You're Dale Kincu. You're a complete moron if you undo your belt in a moving race car. Moron.

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All right, everybody. It's Dale Jr. We're back again for another episode of the Dell Jr. Download. And it is the first of the month. And that means a lot of things. But one most important is I've got a great co-host at the table. My lovely wife, Amy.

How you doing? I'm good, honey, how are you? I'm doing good. We got the kids of school. It's a great start to the day. Yep. The rest of the crew's here. Andrew Dalton, Alex, and we got a big show to fill up here.

But first off, I want to say that obviously everybody's watching everything that's going on out in western North Carolina and eastern Tennessee with the flooding from Hurricane Helen. Helene. Helene. Yeah, who would pronounce it that way? I don't know. There's an E on the end, so it's a lean. But either way, there is a lot that I wanted to mention about this. The first thing I want to say is to help in any way.

You can visit red cross.org or Samaritan's Purse to do anything that you would like to do. I'm sure maybe you're already, you know, trying to, you know, trying to assist in your own way. But in the last two days, two or three days, I think, Every single person that I've came in contact with has told me a story about how they are individually doing something actively supporting with some type of supply drive or a relief effort. I'm talking big organizations, race teams, my neighbor down the street. I don't care who I've spoke to. They know about something that's going on down the street or at the local fire department. or something maybe even a larger operation.

A friend of mine, State Trooper, Garrett Barger, up in Salisbury, has secured a tractor-trailer that they're going to fill with generators. There's the Troopy headquarters in Salisbury where they're organizing this generator organization. That thing will be going out west to help on Wednesday. Junior Motorsports and the Cars Tour, they're collecting supplies to send to the the Statesville Airport, which is a bit of a distribution hub temporarily. NASCAR and North Wilkesboro Speedway are working together. Wilkesboro will be a distribution hub for a lot of things that will be collecting there through

NASCAR and a ton of the race teams will be working with that. We see all the things Greg Biffle is doing with his helicopter on social media and he's updating all the things that he's seeing and not only the devastation but also all the other support that's flooding in. other people sending their own helicopters and the fuel to use those helicopters to get the supplies where they're dearly needed. One of our own employees lost their own house. Many of our employees, family members and friends have been directly affected by this. I'm telling you, in the last couple of days, I've been inspired and amazed by how literally anyone that I come in contact with

has some, is doing some role in support and relief. And so, and that's, and that. will continue. I know that there's people out there that are in dire straits, but it's good to see your community banding together and going in all sorts of directions to try to figure out how to get the needed supplies and assets up to the people that need it there in the western North Carolina Hills. Absolutely, yeah. My grandma was up there. She had a cabin up in Banner Elk, and we didn't hear from her for four days. I mean, she didn't have power, water. Finally, my dad and uncle were able to get up there and actually bring her home. But when they found her, she was like, everybody's been grilling out. And we were like so worried about her.

Well, at least they had supplies. Yeah. That's so wonderful to hear. They were taking care of her. But I mean, my dad told me he's like, man, it is like apocalyptic up there. It is really sad. So just thinking about the people up there for sure. Sorry, you got me worked up over here. It's overwhelming. But yeah. Yeah. It's pretty amazing. It is. It's a tough thing to see. And you just really, you know that there's a lot of support and assets and supplies on their way. There's a lot of people across the country, and especially in the southeast, and especially in probably the Piedmont area of North Carolina, they're actively now compiling supplies to be headed out there shortly,

but they can't get there soon enough. There's a lot of people out there with nothing to survive on. and but hopefully those supplies and and and and that stuff will reach them quickly. We had, you know, speaking of charitable initiatives, we had the foundation event for the, for the Dale Jr. Foundation this past week and just wanted to thank all of the staff that showed up and all of the, all of the staff for 99% of them are volunteer. We put on this event annually. at the Whiskey River western town.

There are all kinds of things happening throughout the year that are raising funds for a lot of the commitments that we make to charitable initiatives across the country nationwide, but this is our main event called Driven to Give. Chris Jansen come out and was the entertainment. He was incredible. And not only did he entertain everybody with his music, but in between songs he spoke so kindly of the foundation.

He was helping remind people why they were there. We had a live auction and a silent auction going on, and he was driving people's focus towards those things. And, you know, going above and beyond, I think, for what we would have expected from anyone that we asked to come entertain the folks that were there. We had about 250 or so people at the event. It mon so so sooned on us right in the middle of the whole thing,

And so we got lucky that he could even get out there and do his gig. We had weather, you know, as Amy mentioned, and that sometimes can really knock the wind out of your sales when you're at an outdoor charitable event. And we ended up raising nearly $500,000. It was, I think, a record night for what we... Wow. Which I wasn't expecting that.

You know, it kind of ebbs and flows. And again, we make some financial commitments out, you know, to charitable initiatives across the nation, and we need to continue to, like, hit our numbers, hit our numbers and raise this money annually to be able to support what we're doing. And you just can't, you know, just never assume what's going to go down. But I was so pleased with the event and just wanted to make a mention of our staff that supports the foundation.

It's a lot of the employees here at Junior Motorsports that pitch in and show up. they could easily do something else with their night or come to the event and just enjoy it. But they volunteer their time to serve and help make things run smoothly for the event itself. And again, Chris Jensen, great job by him and his whole team coming out and entertaining the group. Before we get any further, I wanted to say that today's Dirty Air segment is brought to you by Tire Pros, whether you know a lot about cars or nothing at all. The pros at Tire Pros are a go-to. from an oil change to an engine repair.

They've got you covered. Visit your local tire pro. All right. The race is past weekend. We'll just hit a couple of high points. Obviously, the big conversation, a couple of big conversation, but one of them is Josh Barry being parked on his flat tires. They had a, you know, everybody, you know,

probably very aware what's going on there. There was a crash in the back of the field. Josh gets clipped in the right rear, spins a car, flat tires, has trouble getting the car fired back up, hoping to get towed back to pit road to be able to put tires on the car, but NASCAR deemed that he was in the accident, and so therefore he was out of the race, and they towed him into the infield.

And Roddy Childers are crew chief for Josh Barry's car, a very respected crew chief in the garage said, I've seen a lot of things over my 25 years in the Cup series, but that's the most screwed up thing I've ever seen or been involved in. All we needed was tires with air in them, and how many times have we drove cars to the pit stalls to put tires on them? Why today? We saw a similar issue at Watkins Glen two weeks ago with Ryan Blaney and his crew chief

Jonathan Hassler. They got towed to the garage with a little bit of damage on their car that they felt was repairable, but NASCAR deemed that they were out of the race. I guess Blaney and Hassler ultimately conceded that they had. misunderstood the rule. NASCAR has a damaged vehicle policy, right? And a flat tire policy. And it has determined that the former policy, the flat tire policy. What? No, no, no. I'm just reading this as you have it on this page. No, you got it. You got a good. Basically, NASCAR determined that it was not a flat tire. I was just going to do that part.

You want to do that? Okay. I don't know. Oh, I want to. You looked at me like I was. No. I heard you. Well, I heard you go, I know. I know. This is Andrew when he's ready to speak. He wants to play. We need a new noise. Maybe you need a buzzer. And he just holds there with his mouth gaping open.

Breathe, Andrew, breathe. It's going to be okay. Okay. So NASCAR has a damaged vehicle policy and a flat tire policy. It was determined that. the that was that was the former

not the latter whatever the fuck that means that's why I came in because I saw you getting confused so Matt Weaver this was what he wrote in his article well I didn't know you're going to read it word for word

this is I want to say it was for our notes I didn't know you're going to go read it now I feel like I got to credit Matt Weaver you should yeah otherwise Dale's got to rip you deflected the blame basically yeah NASCAR determined that... The car was involved in the crash. Yes. Right.

So... And I talked to NASCAR earlier today. They said if Josh Barry was a solo spin, he didn't touch anybody, it would be a completely different story. But since there was contact, he was considered a wrecked race car. So by the letter of the rule, NASCAR's determination is that he was hitting the right rear and now he's part of the wreck. And it doesn't, you know, and so while...

You know, this is such a sticky thing, man. the um we are all aware of the rule right and no agree or disagree yeah the rules the rule the rules and it hasn't changed this has been in place it's not a new rule yeah it's not a new rule all right that's fine i just i think um you know there's been some people i you know i will say the the the doorbar clear guys brought it up there's other people on social media all right bringing it up. You know, what if this were to happen

and the, you know, obviously, you know, okay, the argument is, what if this happens at Phoenix

with the final four? You know, you have one of your final four guys that has, you know, clipped in the left rear and flat tires

and now he's out. You know, while that could happen and under the rule, NASCAR would, would have to follow what the rule is. I feel like that,

you know, this is something that they'll probably look into. I mean, I'm not, they're not going to change the rule today. they're not going to change it after what happened to Josh.

I don't think they'll come out and go, they might alter it if they found like a really easy solution. And that could happen. But, you know, I think that, I wonder if they'll look at it in the offseason and say, hey, man, how can we kind of stay, how can we change this rule to give, in Josh's case, give Josh a chance to continue racing without undoing a lot of the intention for the rule itself. So the damage vehicle policy, we went over this a couple weeks ago.

they there are a lot of reasonable ideas on why this rule came into play and I mentioned a couple like before the damaged vehicle policy we as our race teams had

crash carts that were these elaborate big giant crash carts with all front all rear suspension every single part that could be been or torn up on that car was on this cart weighing foul weighing hundreds of thousands of pounds, right?

And so hundreds or a thousand pounds. And so, that's aggressive. Yeah, and so, and on top of that, you also had the full nose, like you had a complete fender, nose and hood kit, and body pieces, bumpers and tails on a whole different cart. And so two crash carts per car, per team, hauling up down the road in these haulers, unnecessary, unnecessary,

right? We were, you know, NASCAR one day said, you know, the teams were changing motors. You'd blow a motor in the middle of the race. Teams would change them.

They could change them in 12 to 20 minutes. Get out there and finish in the top 20 back in the day. NASCAR eventually said no more changing engines. Just not doing it no more. He can't do it.

Some teams were happy about it because it was a lot of work and a lot of effort, and they were bringing all these extra motors and stuff, and it was just unnecessary. And if it was like, you know, if it's one-size-fits-all kind of rule that affected everybody the same, it was fine.

And I feel like that the crash, the damage vehicle policy and the clause is similar to that in a way. It's trying to, you know, the teams had gotten so smart and built out these really elaborate solutions to any type of scenario that they might find themselves in that all these haulers were moving up down the road. Borderline, if not overweight, they did the same thing with the gear rule.

Years ago, there was no gear rule. We had nine-inch rear ends with big-ass rear gears, and teams were carrying six to a dozen rear gears up and down the road in these haulers for no reason. And finally, NASCAR came in and said, there's going to be a gear rule where you get one or two choices per race. Now that was years ago,

but it took all of the gears and all that weight off the haulers. That's just one, one single reason or one good solution or one good fix that's happened because of the damaged vehicle policy. Also, you know,

you would have cars out there that were just so badly damaged, running so slow, that we're able to go back out on the track and complete as many laps as possible. and NASCAR was trying to get those cars off the racetrack and say, hey, teams, you know, we're, the, the way the teams operate is like, we're going to finish every lap we can finish no matter what. No matter how hard you got kicked in the gut or how bad your car was torn up. The only way to really salvage that day emotionally was to go back in the garage and fix the car and do everything you could to get even one more lap.

And you felt like, okay, we, we did everything we possibly could here today. And the teams were always going to continue to do that. They were never going to go, man, you know what? There's no reason to go back out there. This car is so terribly damaged. Maybe we gain a spot or two, but we should probably pack it up. The teams were never going to do that. They were never going to say that.

They were always going to try and try and try to run every corner that they can run. So NASCAR is kind of saving them from themselves saying, we're going to put a policy in place that, you know, parks all you guys that shouldn't probably put your car back out on the racetrack. And so there's a lot of reasons why this vehicle policy is in place. But is it perfect? Maybe not. Would you have liked to have seen Josh Barry or any guy in that situation that was,

that Josh was in at Kansas, be able to put tires on his car and go back out there and finish the race? Yes. I mean, they did build a $250,000 roughly race car, spend weeks preparing that car, all the man-hours in the shop, all the pay, all the pay role that that takes for the team. They haul this thing halfway across the country, unload it, practice it, qualify, and race it.

They should. NASCAR has definitely got to assist in getting the teams the ability to finish that race. I'm hoping in the off-season they'll look at how they can adjust the policy without, ruining the intent, the original intent of the policy.

Because nobody really wants to just undo all of those things that we kind of helped achieve by putting this in place. But is it perfect? I don't know if it's perfect. And nobody said it was. And so I think in the all season, we'll see what NASCAR might achieve. I don't think that,

you know, I've got to be surprised, I guess, if they made any adjustments now, but they could. What would they do, right? You mentioned, like,

NASCAR saving the teams from themselves. The DVP was actually a team request that both the teams and NASCAR worked together to figure out a solution to how can we make this work. So to your point, I think maybe there's a conversation to be had because it's a bummer when you see a technicality almost in the rule, take Josh Barry out. I mean, like there was damage, but you look at that race car. He could have finished if he just had tires. No one wants the rule to go away. I just think we can use our heads here and go, that car could have raced. It absolutely could have raced. Let's figure out a way to put tires on it, not just leave them stranded in some campground

a lot, like in the middle of the infield. Yeah. I think they'll do that, and they just have to make sure that whatever the, whatever the change is, it's fair across the board, because you're still going to have these, you're still going to have to have some language somewhere in there that we're going to butt up against. In some weird scenario, you're still going to find a fault. Right, right in the rule. And so, well, you know, you let this guy put tires on and here I am.

I think that's how everyone's going to feel if they changed the rule before the season's over. Well, I think that, you know, NASCAR will probably, if I was NASCAR, I think I would hope that, you know, we didn't find ourselves in no more situations like this going forward. But I definitely would look at the rule at the end of the season and go, hey, hey, even if we can't change it or don't change it, NASCAR is probably damn sure you're going to have a conversation about this. They're definitely know that there's some

opportunity in the off season to look at it and see if there's something we should do. We should talk about the Cobbush-Brisco incident. Ready to move forward? Yes, I was just going to say, I was just one last point on the Josh Berry thing. NASCAR actually just sent me the flat tire recovery program,

which is what you do. So basically the program was put in place for vehicles not being able to make it back to pit road under their own power due to flat tires but it was never intended to tow damage vehicles on DVP back to pit road and since Josh Barry was DVP that's why. Right. The rule makes sense. It's just the dumb rule.

Yeah. Anyway, sorry. I just got that update. Yeah. All right. Well, I wonder how they'll find a way to get Josh Barry's car back to the pit road and be able to put tires on it and without, you know, where, where do you, I guess they'll figure, they'll have to find out where you draw the line, if they're going to make a change, that is, right? Where do you draw the line on what car you do not tow back? Right. Right. Where is the, where is that at? That's the subjectivity that's difficult.

That's going to get tough determined. That's not an easy fix and that's something that'll take, that's why I think it's an off-season conversation because it's, they're going to have to go through the scenarios of, well, what if, what if this happens and what is the repercussions of this? Is this in part a next-gen issue? Because I feel like they didn't, you used to be able to tow cars easier back to pit road, it's different wheel, like I feel like the next-gen car on flat tires has a harder time moving than the older car, right?

There's no inner liner, right? Well, no, it's, I mean, there's not been in a ladder. So the reason why the next-gen has a harder time is because they put a diffuser underneath the car and the diffuser works at best when it is just very close to the ground. And so they try to run the cars as low as possible in the back. And when you take the air out of the tires, the car is literally sitting on the ground and it will not move.

Yeah. Okay. That's kind of the issue there. So, I mean, if they could figure out a way to get the diffuser off the car to where they didn't have to get the car so low and two birds of one stone, they would be able to... They would be able to probably drive them back very slowly.

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And Chase Briscoe runs literally a car off the wall. I mean, I don't know if Kyle Busch's car could have fit through that hole. If he could have drove through there, it was very tight. Briscoe said he gave him like a car width and a couple of inches. Steve Lattar on the broadcast said he gave him about 90% of a car length, which is more what I saw. I think, I think Latar's correct. It was not a car. It was not enough.

I mean, but, you know, I mean, if you're Kyle Bush, you're looking straight at it. You're looking dead at the guy. You see there's not a car width to get through there. But, you know, Kyle's pushing really hard trying to win him a race. He's, you know, he's had a tough year. So Kyle Bush is going to give it every damn thing he can give it and just stepped over the line when he was in that scenario behind Briscoe. It's a bad scenario to be in aerodynamically with this car.

But, and Kyle's, you know, the back gets out from under him, he slaps the right rear into the wall, right front goes into the wall, and then he's off, you know, spinning around down the back. Straight away. I don't blame, I'm not going to put any blame on Briscoe. Briscoe's in front. You know, it's not like Briscoe drove across the racetrack to get there to block the eight. he ran a line through the corner

that the eight car is driving up and seeing him in that space and he has the option to, you know, wait and back up and wait for the next corner to try to either go low or go high again. You got, you got, you know, he had an opportunity there to sort of ride out the second half of that turn, knowing that he could not fit in the hole between Chase Briscoe in the wall and knowing that it was a bad area aerodynamically and he was going to end up losing the car. You know, it's just, it's a tough situation, but it's racing.

It's racing is what it was. It wasn't, Chase Briscoe is just doing what he has to do. He is racing for his own playoff spot. He's very determined to take this SHR car as far into the playoffs as they can. they're already overachieving and doing things people never thought they were capable of doing. And so, yeah, I mean, I know it's disappointed for Kyle Bush, and he had a real shot at winning that race. But I can't say, oh, man, you know, that was a nasty block or, you know, that Riscoe did anything truly wrong in that scenario. I got two points, main points on this.

First, I don't care who you are racing for the playoffs, racing not. it just kills me anytime I see a lap car get in the way of a great battle for the lead, which it was. I mean, that Kyle Busch-Testain battle was thrilling. And also, I could argue that Brisco, keeping your lap, yes, it's important, it's the end of the race, and, you know, he was not having a good day up to that point. He was minus 21 to the cut line at the time of the incident. But when Kyle Busch and Briscoe were racing each other at Darlington, you could argue there's more on the line because one guy is going to,

get in the playoffs. One guy's not. Kyle Bush raced Briscoe clean. Yeah. And this is now... At Darlington. What year? This year. Because they've raced... I know they had the Xfinity race. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was pretty wild. I mean, Kyle Bush... Kyle Bush has proved that he'll race clean giving

the high-stakes circumstances. He proved it at Daytona. He proved it at Darlington. And he's just not getting that same type of respect back almost in return. I would have seen... It was disrespect. I don't know. I just... I didn't see Marobim or nothing. He touched him?

Yeah, but he didn't give him a, I don't know if your lap car, he's going to, it's inevitable that you're going to get lapped, right? No, not necessarily. It's not, I mean, it's inevitable, but not necessarily. He did. He ran him down. The lap car, your first point, you hate to see a lap car getting in the way of a great battle for the lead.

If there weren't lap cars, there wouldn't be many battles for leads. I understand that. I mean, the, the, one of the things that I get the, most excited about is a broadcaster when I'm watching a race is the leader catching lap traffic because I know it could change if this you know it could change the dynamics of the top two or the top three it could give the second or third place car an opportunity to make a pass and so you know I I feel like if that part's fun but watching them destroyed the and then come over you know like really

If he slowed him up and Chastain got by him and they both got by Briscoe, sure, but like, God, was wrecked because of it. And then he ruined his day. He made that choice to try to fit in that whole. I understand the run is the run. And sure, you're not going to slam on the brakes coming out of turn two. But, like, at the end of the day, like, I think of it as if I'm in traffic, right? If I hit the car in front of me, I'm at fault.

I'm the one behind. It's, it was an unfortunate situation, but it played out. He was probably just hoping he was just going to tap him and get through it. Yeah. just kind of squeeze his way in there, but I don't know. And by the way, Freddie on DBC yesterday made a great point because Briscoe said after the race, he's been close all year long and I'm a Kyle Busch fan and I wanted to see him keep the streak alive, the streak being him winning a race at least once a year.

And Freddie made the point. It's like, no, you're not a Kyle Busch fan. That played out exactly how you wanted it to you. Like that could not have been better for you. Kyle Busch, you keep your lap, he doesn't lap you, caution comes out. like, Chase Briscoe completely won in that situation. Like, don't go saying that, oh, I'm hate for that to happen. Like, I didn't want to see that happen.

Like, it played out exactly how he wanted it to. Yeah. That's, I'm echoing Freddie's point. I, um, Freddy said that. I thought you're going to have. I think it's just really shocking to hear people feel sorry for Kyle Busch. I know. It's wild.

It's just this year. The world has been turned up on a sad. I mean, he said, I'm numb. I don't know what to do. That's sad. How, that was like, like, damn. How defeating of a feeling is Kyle but like how tough is that for him? I mean, I don't know, you're a race car driver.

You know, he's leading the race and he's running down Briscoe and he got in a fence. I mean, Briscoe didn't run him in the wall, didn't hit him, didn't touch him. Briscoe just said, hey, I'm not going to give you a lane. And Kyle Bush, Kyle Busch is always going to race 100, 110% as hard as he can go. and he's trying to end a long drought, and he's struggled this year, and you've got to imagine, like, the car's great, but just how much is Kyle carrying this thing?

Kyle's got, I mean, literally when I watch, listen, I don't want a dog, this ain't a dog on RCR. They've done some really good things to get gains to give him a shot at it. Recently, too. But, dude, you still know that Kyle Bush is carrying that freaking car on his back, and he's trying to do too much. because he's always having to do so much, right,

to make that thing competitive. And at least that's the feeling or the temperament that I have when I'm watching it. I'm like, you know, I just watch it and I just know that Kyle Bush has gotten so accustomed to having to do too much. And so it was a lot of, there was a lot of things coming together in that moment. and he just didn't, I mean, what, how could, how could, what was, what's the scenario, answer this for me, I guess, what's the scenario, if Chase Briscoe doesn't do anything different, how does Kyle Busch come off a turn two clean?

He, he has to check up and then probably lose a spot to Ross, you know, so like I, you think he loses a spot to Ross there? Maybe. I mean, maybe not there, but the momentum carries Ross. They're battling down the backstretch, maybe in the next corner. And they race it out. Right. And so I understand why Kyle did what he did. Is it an error? Sure, we could chalk it up to that. But I don't fault him. Like, I don't fault him for what happened. Like, it's, Briscoe. Neither of them. I think he's, brisk, did Briscoe make a mistake? No. No, but he didn't, like, he ran, he didn't give Kyle Busch the, he didn't give Kyle Busch the, Because here, hey, there's no...

You don't give somebody you're competing to space. I will say this. Hold on, but it's like a respect thing, because Bush said back in the old days, when you were under 30 to go or whatever it was, lap traffic would kind of lay over and give you a lane and let the leaders race. That's my biggest problem with this.

That's true. 30 years ago, absolutely. But the whole mentality of the etiquette in racing is different today. The drivers don't live. Let each other go anymore. They don't let it. They don't go, oh, man, it's 50 laps into the race.

Someone will let you go. You're faster, and then you let me go later, right? You know, yeah, that shit ain't happening anymore. It used to happen all the time back in the day. It doesn't happen anymore. And all these guys race the dog shit at each other, every restart for every position. Nobody wants to give up even one spot. And so the mentality that Chase Briscoe has in that moment is no different than anyone else in the field.

and he's in, if he's not a playoff guy, I don't think he does this. He's in the playoffs. He's got points to get. His team is sitting there saying, his team is telling him this all week long, and he knows this every moment he's driving around that racetrack. I have to be in the fight.

I have to stay in the fight. Nothing's impossible. We're never out of it. He can't sit there in that moment and go, yeah, we're out of it, man. Y'all go ahead. That is not the mentality that his team wants him to have. That's not the mentality that his coaches are telling him to have.

They're telling him, hey, man, you're going to drive his car. You better be on the wheel. You better fucking try to hold that guy off. You better try to keep your lap. Did he go and run a line intentionally to make it so hard on Kyle Busch? Yes, he knows exactly what he has to do to put that car in the position to make Kyle be compromised. He knew where he needed to run. and he did it intentionally.

But it's not, it's not, is it a, is it what Kyle wants him to do? No, but if you're on, if you're working on that 14 car and if your crew chief in it, then it's the move you got to make. It's the drive, it's the line you have to run. You have to say, hey man, I'm not going to just let it happen. You're going to have to work your way around. And only, it's only because he's in the playoffs. It's only because Chase Briscoe's into playoffs

that he made that choice. He can't give up. Look at last round where he made up all those points. I think he made up the most points that anyone's ever made as far as the deficit to the cut line in that round. And he did that because he didn't give up a single corner. Like he did, he made this round off of this mentality that he had driving,

and he's driving through that corner and holding off Kyle Busch. And if he makes it into the next round, you can look at this moment as a possible reason why he's still in it, right? Because he just refuses to give up. And so he has to go,

hey man, I can, you know, I know he didn't salvage a great day. I know that he lost 18 points in his effort on Kansas. But he could probably look at that and go, you know, hey, it could have been 30. Had I not done what I needed to do,

maybe I saved myself a few points. So when I go to Talladega and I go to the Roval and I put together two badass weeks, I'm in the next round. And so, you know, and Kyle Busch is not racing for the playoffs. He's not racing to move forward in the next round. He is not, you know,

does Briscoe react differently if that's a playoff driver? All of those scenarios have to be factored in. But I'm not going to, you know, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that Chase Briscoe did something wrong because he didn't. He just ran the line. He said, I'm going to run this line, and it's your job to figure out how to get around it and do what you need to do. And, you know, Kyle got into the wall and wrecked out. Does the clean racing at Darlington between them matter at all in this situation?

You know, I, yeah, I mean, you know, if you're Kyle Busch, you're definitely kind of like, hey, dude, you know, we had a good little battle there. And I just wanted some more respect in that situation. I can absolutely see Cobbush's point. But, and I can not, I mean, I just, I don't see like a glaring, obvious, this guy did this wrong, this is wrong, he should not done that kind of thing. I think no matter what, it goes back to this is the playoffs. and respect or not, you're not battling for that, and I am. So I am not giving you the space. I'm going to keep my points.

The etiquette has changed in NASCAR to every driver, not giving up a spot, not letting another driver, you know, they're all racing each other way harder and with way more intent. And there's just not a lot of give and take. And I think we should all be glad that, that is the case. Yeah. Because it would not be as exciting if there was a ton of give and take.

We would, you know, we would have big chunks of these races where there was just not much to talk about. And drivers just going, yeah, you go ahead. All right, man, you're faster. Yeah, take the line. You got it. You know, that's the way it was 20 years ago. And it was fine.

but I like the way it is today. I like, and I will try my hardest, even when my favorite driver is getting wrecked or when my favorite driver's in the situation that Kyle Bush was in, I'll try to remind myself that, boy, I'm glad they race the shit out of each other. I know my guy got the worst end of it right now, but I love the tenacity and mentality of the drivers because we need them to be aggressive with each other,

other and we need them to put each other in compromising situations to an extent and really you know make these moments compelling it's a compelling moment in the race and a fortunate one for Kyle I feel like Andrew's really sad we made him really sad making good points all right I hate you're I hate it for Kyle man because I want to see listen I've had my differences with the guy but we've we've worked it out and I think that successful Kyle Bush is good for NASCAR And while this also this storyline of Kyle Bush, this sort of redemption tour, you know, he was one of the, he was the villain, you know, one of the least popular guys in the sport. And he's sort of found a route to, you know, to being appreciated. And people want to see him achieve and get back to Victory Lane.

And so it's a great storyline for our sport. And so, you know, I think when if and when he does win this, race it'll be a cool moment for him for rCR for all his fans that have stuck by his side through all of this you know he has a lot of fans that hung in there with him when he went away from joe gives racing and going to rCR and wondering about how that's going to work out and he's got a lot of new fans that are that weren't Kyle Busch back in the day they didn't like the old kai bush that they like the new kai bush and um i think him being a dad and and seeing social media and him helping Brexton on his path as a racer is compelling and help people understand a little bit more

about the person that Kyle Busch is. So look, I want to see him go out there and win these races, but, you know, that's just a scenario where I can't really say that Briscoe should have done or could have done anything different. Briscoe gets to make his own choices on the racetrack. A few weeks ago, you expressed concern about aggression ramping up. So, like, where's the line now? Well, that wasn't aggression.

There was no aggression there. That was a guy just, hey, I'm going to run this line and you figure it out. There was not. Yeah, he didn't tap him as he passed him. It was an attack. That doesn't fall in the line of aggression. If anything, it was defense. He's trying to win this argument.

He's like, on this date. Hey, I appreciate it. Let's find our angle, Andrew. Well, if it makes you feel, Andrew, Andrew, if it makes you feel any better, I feel like I'm in the minority on this. I feel like your opinion. that Kyle should have been given the right away or Briscoe should have made it easier on Kyle.

I think that's probably the majority of people's opinions. I'd be surprised if people felt much different than the way you feel. I think my biggest disappointment with all of it is it ruined Bush's day. If you slowed him up, if Chastain even passed him and Bush had to track him back down and had a chance, I would feel better about this.

But the fact that Bush's day was over I agree. Get mad at Kyle about that. I know. Kyle had as much responsibility for what happened as Briscoe did, if not more. You know, so look, I'm, you know, Kyle's a champion. He's certainly, you know, if Kyle gets out and says different, you got to listen to it and you got to take it to heart because the guy's a champion and a winner.

But just watching it, I'm like, I mean, you could have, you could have. you could have lived to race the next corner, right? Yeah. And, but he, but I feel like where he is mentally with trying to carry all this on his back, the, the, stressful. Like, he's almost trying too hard. Yeah. Like, he's pushing so freaking hard.

Just to get the monkey off his back. He's sitting there going, here's my shot. I got it, you know, he's, he was in, he was running 110% here on fire. So, anyhow, Now, Chastain ends up winning the race, the second non-playoff driver to win a race. Yeah. Ever? No, just this playoffs.

Oh, I was wondering where it. Like, it just says that. Yeah, sorry, I meant to put this year. Oh, basically 50% of our races so far. No problem. These are great. Every week. One of the things that I noticed about that race was there are a lot of loose wheels.

More than normal. Just seemed like a lot of mistakes. Stakes all around. Yes. At a playoff driver's specially. Kansas seems like that's where all these things happen. So. Which is strange because you don't think of it as necessarily a wild card race.

But when we go to Kansas, and it's different with the next-gen car, but even with the old car, man, every time we race, we had these vibrational. And you didn't know whether it was a loose wheel or if it was just a, there was a, there was a, I will just say, I don't want to dig, I don't want to dig Goodyear here, but every time we went to Kansas, the tire and the track almost had this really odd sort of relationship where you just would get a set or a tire that would shake. And it was, it was a tire we used it other racetracks that didn't have that problem. but we'd go to Kansas and you just would get these strange sort of vibrations sometimes and you didn't know whether it was just a tire or it was not a you know it's loose wheel maybe and so you'd come down pit road and they'd be like yep no no problems no loose no lug nuts and you're thinking was shit um i could have just stayed out here on that vibrating set of tires well now you know and i wonder you know they they they had they had a few more loose wheels than

normal. You know, I thought the loose wheel epidemic had kind of cured itself for guys. Teams had kind of figured how to not have that issue. Remember, that was like a big problem when the next gen car came in and it's sort of

gotten better and you see them less, hear about them less. But there were a few more than normal during the race. And to your point, a lot more mistakes on pit road and so forth. And it just seems like Kansas always, it looks

like a totally doable freaking race, right? This almost seemed like the first normal, no question marks race of the entire playoffs. And it was the one that had the most sort of complications for each driver, which is really fascinating. Jeff Gluck wrote a great article real quick on

like the what ifs. What if different things happened during the race? If Denny Hamlin's picker didn't have one of the worst races to date, if Chris Rebell didn't hit the wall twice, if Kyle Larson didn't run over debris on lap 19, like this would be a completely different outcome. Of course. Yeah. I don't know, just interesting problems

that the playoff drivers ran into. Yeah, you know, as bad as that is for those drivers, man, it really makes for some compelling stuff when you look at playoff standings. William Byron comes out of their gaining. I like to look at the gains and losses. I know we can just look at the overall and say, hey, Reddick's sitting on the outside of the eight

that will advance at minus four, but he lost 24 points during the, Kansas race weekend, lost 24 points at a track that they had been great at. 2311 has been great at Kansas. Oh, you circle that race all year long. You're thinking if you're Reddick, man, I want to have a good day today. We should. This is a great track for me because Dega and the Roval are next, right?

And so, you know, I want a little bit of a safety net. He's lost all of that as he's now minus four. And a guy who was really great and competitive and solid through. throughout the entire regular season and is now going into Daga and the Roval in danger. Daniel Suarez, Briscoe, Cendrick, not a big surprise for me. I know they've done really good things in this playoffs. I want to commend them on even being here at this point, but Suarez, Briscoe, and Cendrick, I really didn't have them making a big splash anyways.

And I know they had their own challenges throughout the day. They could still figure something out at Daga and the Roval. those are two wild cards. I just really feel like anything can happen. And we've seen it. Even at the Roval, I typically go to road courses and go, well, these are the guys that are good at road courses and everybody else to be fighting for their lives. But it seems like at the Roval, it just, you don't know what to expect. People run good there that usually shouldn't or you wouldn't expect them to be great.

It's not the typical road course and doesn't provide the typical results. Don't apply. and so I really don't know how to have any confidence if I'm even great at road courses going into the roble because you just never know what might happen there. Let's see. Larson did lose 21 points of his cushion. Now he's plus 18, but I feel pretty good about where he's at.

Honestly, Alex Bowman's been championed a lot during these playoffs because of the points that they've been. accumulating. He won a stage? Yes. And so he's at plus eight. He gained 15 points at Kansas. So they continue to perform how they hope they would perform.

I don't want to say they're overperforming. But he, you know, he's, can they keep that up? I think that's, you know, I think a lot of people are sitting there going, okay, you know, when's this, when's this, you know, great streak for a moment going to kind of come unraveled. But so far so good. But it's going to be interesting. You got Joey Lugano

sitting there at plus four going into a race that he absolutely can win. Yes. You know, will he do Joe Ligano things and go win and advance himself into the next round when God knows he hasn't been running good enough all year to be there? But that's how Joey does it.

So it, but it is sizing up to be kind of the group of drivers that we all thought would get this far. Byron Blaney Bell, Larson, Hamlin, Bowman, Elliot, and Ligano. It'll be interesting to see what Reddit can do. Reddit can do to climb back into the fight. And it's not over for anybody by no means with two races left in the round. I think it's, I mean, of any race that you could have a non-playoff driver win in a round,

Kansas was an awesome one because with two wild cards looming, like, can William Byron even feel safe plus 34. I don't think he can. You've promont Talladega, then you gotta go in the roval. Yeah. You know, like, is anybody safe looking at this? Like, I can't even, I don't know.

I guess my, I think so. Going in, if we're gonna preview Daga, you know, we can say, you know, the first thing I wanna know is like, all right, what's your asking each individual driver? What is your goal in stage one? Answer me that, right? And you remember Denny's saying, man, you know, in Atlanta, we just need 20 points.

I bet you he's not saying that again. Yeah, what's Denny's shot? No way. What's Denny and everyone else's goal in that first stage? Do you, and I think that all of them know that they'd love to go in there and finish great in the stages and eventually get a top 10. to be able to accumulate, you know, anywhere from 30 to 50 points at Daga. They feel, they'd love that. They'd feel great about that.

So, I would imagine, I would be really surprised if any one of these drivers said, we're going to give up stage points and try to be around for the finish. I don't know that any of them can, can take that approach and feel really great about it. So do they start the race at Daga with the intention? of getting points in stage one and working their guts outright trying to do that they're going to, if any of them do have

the track position, they're ain't going to do nothing to lose it, right? They're not going to move if they're sitting there like second, third, in line, inside line, outside line, don't matter. You ain't going to see any of them do anything to screw that up, right? So you're going to see a lot of guys that are perfectly happy sitting

where they're at. Some further back that maybe aren't, right? Some drivers that don't have the track position that are going to try to fight to get up into that top 10 in the stage working back there doing that throughout the stage. At some point, though, there'll be like, you know, a few laps to go where you might say, all right, I don't have a shot at this. I'm 22nd in line and I'm just, I have no shot at getting these stage points.

Then maybe you kind of regroup or rebound, try to rebound and get the track position for stage two. It'll be interesting to see how that plays out for these guys. But, you know, I think you have to, yeah, I think you all, I think all of them have to start the race thinking, man, we're going for stage points, first stage, we're going to stage points, second stage. We're going to race, race, race, all day long. Hopefully that means we'll see a really active pack, right?

Whereas in some of the plate races at Talladega, Daytona, they've gotten into two lanes and set there in road, side by side forever. I'm hoping that since there's some drivers that really want to try to get those stage points, it'll create some action and keep that pack active throughout the first stage and the second stage, giving us some good entertainment. Chaos. I'm looking forward to it. How much wild card aspect should we be expecting?

Because, I mean, you look at Talladega, you think Wildcard, but then the winners that come out of it, like Blaney won last year, the playoff race, Chase won the year before in the playoffs. Should we expect a traditional playoff name to win this thing? Like I feel like the cream still always rises at Talladega. Well, I love that because, you know, I won a lot of races at Daytona and Talladega, and I felt like that the reason why I won those races was obviously because I had a great race car, but also because I felt like I knew what I was doing. Right.

And I felt like I could do that better than most. And so I like to think that when you go to these races, especially this late in the season when it really truly matters, that the guys that know these races well and know how to do these races the right way, we'll find a way to Victory Lane. And it won't be some sort of a fluke winner, right? That could still happen. It's Talladega and it's got its share of, you know, Cinderella stories.

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Hey everybody. I want to talk to you a little bit about safety culture. You may know Safety Culture's logo from Shane Van Gisbergin's car, but safety culture is more than just a sponsor. It's also the workplace operations tool for the trackhouse racing team. And what does that actually mean? Well, the team uses Safety Culture's app to manage everything from pre-race inspections on the car to assembly checks, and they even do some of their training. on the app. Every race team has an incredible amount of individuals that maybe don't even travel to the racetrack, work back at the shop, that are a big part of the success of that race team, preparing cars, getting them ready to go to the racetrack and run these races and try to win

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everybody would assume we'd have a big giant party. Not doing that. This year I wanted to have some experiences with my wife and friends and family and my kids and we're doing that and just got back from a trip to Montana. It was incredible. I've don't really have a list. I've not really made a list of the states that I've been to, but I know I've never been to Montana.

And like Alaska and a couple other places. but so it's nice to see that part of the country, you know, we, um, we originally were going to go to Florida. Yeah. And we were leaving on Thursday. Yeah. Yes. And plans changed on Monday because of the hurricane coming through.

Right. The entire area that we were planning on going to was underwater as well. Man. So, I mean, that hurricane has just rocked everything. Yeah. You know, the eastern seaboard. But we were able to find a new spot and, um. How'd you determine Montana?

Dale has a list of saloons he wants to visit. Oh, really? And Bozeman, Montana had one. Oh, Bozeman. Yeah, Bozeman. So we get on VRBO and just see if there's homes available for the group. And I'm talking to friends, like, how do we reroute your flights? And everybody can meet in the same spot.

So Monday was a little stressful. I didn't want it to not happen. You know what I mean? It was like a good challenge. Yeah. It all worked out. It was really fun. Yeah, it was a, I've always kind of wanted to see some of the,

I've always wanted to go to Montana, but I also want to go north of that up into Canada. I mean, one of the things that I've always wanted to consider doing was to, there's this road that would take you into Canada, north, all the way up to Alaska. And maybe it's unreasonable to think about taking that as a road trip. but I just think there'd be some amazing things to see driving up through there and trying to think, too, about the people that made that hike. The first time. The first time, right? It'd be like a four or five day road trip, right?

It would be a long commitment. I've never really signed up for that. I haven't really mapped it out, but I just know that there's some really old, maybe not so much historical towns, but just some towns. but just some towns that are really survived and done some, you know, they were kind of the like pioneers. The supply stops along the way, right? I mean, you know, these are the areas where those people were kind of coming through and making that trek up and down from Alaska and back.

And so I think it just neat part of the world to see. Is that how Bozeman got on your list? No. No. No. Bozeman was just, we were, I don't know, we were just kind of looking around, looking at Jackson Hole and Santa Fe and a couple different cities that we just thought might be we want to be able to walk around.

And, you know, it would be easy to just to see things. But Montana was beautiful. It was really, really beautiful. Where I don't know if this is the way Montana is for everyone, but it is exactly how I thought it might be if you were in a, you know, if you were to say, hey, man, plot me down in Montana. We were I was you could where I was I could stand on the ground and no matter what direction I looked there was a mountain range. No matter what direction. Yeah. I mean it was just beautiful. And so that was kind of kind of neat to to check that off the list. Even like the airport out

there's cool because I've been to Bozeman and it's like one big hunting watch and there's all these windows that look up you know and there's this mountain and planes taking off it is gorgeous. They have maximized that. with all of the designer on there. There's a lot of glass. You get to see it. It's really pretty. Absolutely.

What was this saloon? There was a lot of it. It's literally called the old saloon. And that's, because you said that's kind of what inspired the trip. It was. We started Googling like, there's at least one. This is going to work. There's at least one saloon.

There turned out to be quite a few more, but they were all very cool and old and family owned and run generationally. And so we got to meet the people that, you know, the locals that live there. Everyone was a very nice. You know, that determines your trip. You know, I saw you. post a picture of like this I guess one of the saloons you went to and it looked just like the western town it did yeah I don't know if that's why you posted it but that was a nice

it was neat you guys did a good job I walked in there I was like hey we kind of did we did it right yeah this is what they really look like it was cool getting inspiration for home yeah yeah I will be at the i racing NASCAR series finale oh um yes it's at the hall of fame down in Charlotte, the four drivers will be going for a $100,000 prize. And I have a doctor's appointment with my eye doctor before that. I'm going to see, Amy and I are going to see if I can get contacts. I'm going to slap some contacts on this point. Whoa. I don't know if I'm a, I'm the kind of person that can do the kind of. He's not. This is going to be really fun. I don't think it would be worth the effort. I don't know if the prescription I have is a contactable prescription. I see what you're saying.

Your glasses are like... Yeah, he's got the readers. I don't know how. I'm going to ask them. I'm going to ask them, hey, can you do... I think they're going to say you can do contacts, but you're either going to get the, you know, the far or...

Right. I think they've created contacts that do more than they just... That's what they used to do. That's what they say. We'll see. But I have had to help him put drops in his eyes, and that's been quite an experience. So watching you try to figure out how to manipulate your eyelashes

to get a contact in is going to be a learning process. What's harder getting Isla to brush her teeth or putting contacts? It'll be contacts for him. Nicole? We've actually gotten... It's Nicole. Is it Nicole?

Isla just fine. Nicole, she's gotten better. There was no screens last night. Yeah. Well, it's one night it's freaking fine. But you know, we're going in the right direction. Tonight she'll, you know, she'll have to hold her down. Cover her mouth.

It's just whatever. I, um... I'm excited because I, I miss seeing his, eyebrows, which is the weirdest thing. Well, it might not be too damn excited. I mean, they might not be a prescriptionable thing. I mean, they might not be able to make a contact. I'm setting my hopes high. I'm going to attract this into my life. I miss seeing in your face. I have no idea what emotions you because I can't see the eyebrows. It's so hard to read. He looks just mean all the time. I like that. I like that. I'm not selling it. I like to be mean.

How are you dumb? You'd like to look so mean. Like nobody can approach you. Is anybody in here download the drafted car? Yeah. All right. Here we got one drafted car. I have not.

Tons of fun. That's no surprise. Wow. Ouch. You just always like I ain't got time for it if it's not a triathily. Yeah. I don't have time. Yes.

It's not work or running a bike or running. That's right. Swimming. Yeah. Yeah. You're not downloading. Draft your car if you're in a swimming pool at 7 o'clock in the morning. No, it's fun.

Really? I don't think so. I'm not in a swimming pool at 7 o'clock in the morning. October 20th, I'll download it. Well, Drafticcar. So Drafticcar is kind of taken on. Everybody's going to say maybe I'm a little late, or the hardcores will say I'm a little late to the party.

But Drafticcar is a app on your iPhone that is kind of, it's a fun little. Oh, is that what you were playing the other day? I think so, yeah. We're sitting in a bar somewhere, and he's like playing. video game on his phone. We really can't get away from this. Living in the moment. We have a hankering to play video games at all times.

Yeah. So, yeah, I just want to drop a little hint if you hadn't checked out drafty car. It's kind of fun. You're the eight, right, in that game? I started you post a screenshot. You won. I mean, you can pick whatever number. Really?

Oh, wow. Yeah. So, yeah, it's pretty fun. I was in Bristol. I went to Bristol to run our affinity race, and I went into the hauler to just kind of wait for practice. start put on my uniform and Sam Mayer's in there messing with it and I was like okay I want to

see this I want to show me what it show me what you're doing and how everybody's talking about it everybody's posting about it on social media in all their industry folks and a couple of guys in the holler are like yeah I love it I'm playing it I'm playing our crew chief Marty Lindley he's like I'm doing it yeah that's awesome I mean

everybody in the everybody down in the infield is like you know to kill a couple hours are playing drafty car on their phone drafty drafty car drafty car So the thing that's neat about DraftiCar is the developer, it's a single gentleman. That's awesome. It's a one guy that I have known for 20 years in Sim racing. And so I've raced online with this guy off and on.

And he's like kind of one of the, he's just one of the guys, one of the respected kind of old heads of the kind of the iraicing world, but even pre-Iracing NASCAR. race in 2003. And he has just decided that, man, I'm going to develop a game. And I know he's been posted. I follow him on social media. He's been posting about this for a couple years now about building this. And man, it's really achieved more than, I think, I'm sure he ever imagined, but it's a real app on the app store.

Is it free? It was free, but it has ads. Now there's a doubt. There's a, there's a, there's a, no. ads version. It's a one-time purchase. Yeah. And I would play the ads version. The ads are annoying, but before you spend the money on it, make sure something you would enjoy. But it's kind of fun. It's like a career mode where you got to fix the car and you get sponsors and you could get, you know, you get letters from the,

you know, the racing series about how, you know, if you're doing badly, you get kicked. Yeah, it's pretty fun. There's like a little storyline to it that kind of keeps it a little entertaining and if you get in trouble financially, you have to borrow money, then pay off the loans. So it's a little bit of a kind of fun game. Like the same city than the racing. Yeah.

And so in the racing, the way he did this is kind of funny. The way you do this in the racing, I'm talking about this, but the way you race this game, the racetrack is straight. It's always straight. It looks like Daytona. Okay.

There's no turning. left or right to go around a corner. There's no mashing the gas. The gas is on all the time. And you basically are kind of changing lanes to draft forward and take the lead. Huge crash. Yeah. So you can crash pretty easy.

So you just kind of have like three laps and you'll cross the flagstand and realize, okay, a lap is completed. There's a little bar up top telling you that you're getting ready to finish the race. But it's not challenging. Anyone can play it. It's not a difficult game to play, but it's kind of entertaining to try to work your way to the front and figure out how to finish well

and keep your team afloat and do the financials and all that stuff. But anyhow, I wanted to make that mention. Talladega is coming up. I'm going to sit down with a couple of, I'm going to try tomorrow at noon. Amy, I'm putting this on my calendar right now. A couple of the drivers that asked me to give them some help as they go into the race this weekend.

So we're going to sit down up in the conference room at noon, have some lunch. You're having a conference for this? They asked me to give them some advice on drafting. So what we will do is we will put last year's race on the TV and we'll watch the race. And if I see, okay, I thought this could have happened or this should have happened. And we'll mash the pause button and we'll say, all right, you see that? I would have done X, Y, and Z in that moment. or I'll be thinking about doing this or trying to get here and trying to do that.

And so I like helping people with that advice, but it is really, really hard to go out and emulate it because in every situation is so different, what you're watching and what I'm telling them to do may not even materialize. Well, this car is different too than what you race, right? Not really. It's not? No. I mean, the theory and the idea of the draft,

and how the draft works is kind of universal. There's some components that change over time with the way the cars change, but not too much. So, I mean, I can watch a race today and see a car do something and know exactly why that happened and how that happened and what he felt and what he might have should have done or what I wouldn't have done in that scenario

because the drafting, like the bubble and the beach ball effect and the side draft and all those things are still there. And so, but anyhow, it's so hard to go out there and try to, you just got to, you know, it's one of the things where you just kind of got to do it and learn it. Yeah, muscle memory. Yeah, but.

You're gonna use drafty car to teach a couple lessons. No. Squeeze in here. I mean, you kind of could. Very basic mechanics of drafting are in drafty car. And honestly, so yes. Yeah. All your phones.

But to your point, I was, I called, I called TJ this morning on my drive to home, when I dropped I off, I get on the phone and I start calling people up. And I called T.J. Check in on him. See what he was doing. And he said last night, he had Carson Quaple on eye racing. And so he'll get, what T.J. does is very smart.

So T.J.'s job is to help Carson get ready for this race and spot his car during the race. So he's taking the spotter roll to a whole new level. And so what he did last night is he recruited. a handful of sim racers, and he told them, y'all stay in line and run the bottom. Don't do anything, but stay in line and run the bottom. And let Carson try different things

and see how side drafting and all this. And so, like, you know, T.J. recruits a couple guys, and they go out there and they just uniformly do this one thing. That's pretty cool. Yeah. And then Carson and T.J. can talk and T.J. can go, okay, try this. See how that works?

See how that didn't work. see where you need to side draft, where you don't need to side draft. And so, yeah, you're a neat, neat tool. It is very cool that the other guys came to play. That's right. So, yeah, I think the general sim racers are always up to help a real-world driver prepare for the race weekend, and that's some way that they can do that. Also, wanted to make a quick mention before we moved on to the race this weekend in Kansas

and cover that. The commanders had another great game. Wow. Oh, yeah. I watched that one. I watched that in Stacey's. Yeah. Two weeks in a row, they went from the bottom of the heap to a top 10 team.

Amazing coaching. Great draft by the GM. Jaden Daniels at quarterbacks playing well. The team has bought in to what's going on there. So it's fun to watch. So at least, you know, I know they won't win every game this year. At least you wouldn't expect. But it's been fun to watch them the past couple weeks.

Looks like if we can keep all this going in the right of. direction, you know, who knows? It's good to be a Washington commander's family. We won't cry so much this football season. Not good to be a Dolphins fan. Me and Amy have gotten, me and Amy have put a game on the calendar. We're going to go to a game. Who they plan? Do you remember Chicago? Are you going to Chicago versus Caleb Williams? No, not Washington. Yeah. I don't know. Well, I don't, so this is a, this is a, everybody's different about this thing, I think, but I won't go to watch my team play in another person's arena, except when they came to Carolina, which is right up the street. But I'm not going to go to Philadelphia to watch the commanders play.

I agree. I'm not going to Chicago to watch them play. I mean, it feels kind of sketchy. It's surrounded by all the opposing fans. I'm willing to put himself in the middle of that. But I mean, you know, if you watched, I watched them play Arizona and was a bit surprised at how much. many Washington Commander fans were in that stadium. But it's kind of, so for the, I'll say it, man,

for the last probably a couple of decades, it's been such an embarrassment. And you, like, I wouldn't even, I've got hats, jerseys, shirts. I'm,

I'm, I'm, hesitant to even wear that stuff around here, out and about, right? Because people are going to go, oh, man, you like,

you like, Vim? You do it all right? Yeah. Man. And so, you know, now that they've had these two weeks, you're going to start seeing this commander's gear everywhere. You're going to start seeing it when they could. Get ready.

I'm telling you, man. You got to get the belt. All the fans, man, they're coming back to the wagon. Yeah, wear the belt. All the stuff's coming back. All the stuff's coming out of the closet, all the gear. Oh, yeah. Dusting it all.

If they have a decent season, it's, yeah, you're going to see a lot of it. So you're not, you know, you don't support them when they're, At their lowest. He does at home. Yeah. But you're afraid he's not wearing that t-shirt out. Show that off. It just brings on unnecessary negativity, man,

because you go out there and you run into the cowboy fans. He likes to heckle others, but if it comes at him, he's like, this is not worth it. It's not worth it. Yeah. Well. Okay, so it's time for Dirty Modo. And Alex Tim is now at the table.

We're going to talk about best bets. But first off, last week, we made a group bet. We did Thursday night football and it was group parlay We will do that again this week The Buccaneers are at the Falcons The Buccaneers, man, they've been tearing it up Oh yeah, they're playing so good they are I'm feeling I like saying that

Because they did a number on the commanders there And I wasn't sure just how good a team they were But since I see they're very good Now I don't feel so bad Yeah But anyways Thursday night group parlay We went up with the parlay for the Giants And the Bills

And the Bills Cowboys we lost. Oh, I'm sorry. It was Giants and Cowboys. It wasn't Bill's. Wasn't Bill's? No, I thought it was D.

All right. T.J. was, I know it was the Giants. We lost to parlay. Does anybody remember the legs? Well, I know mine hit. I was the one one of a hit. I think T.J.'s hit?

You're doubled. No, TJs did not hit. T.J.s didn't even come close. And we thought it was going to. I know mine didn't. I had the Giants going over 19 and a half and they didn't do that. They got 15, I think. I took Singletary 60 plus yards.

I didn't realize they were rushing four different guys. So that kind of sucked. Yeah, he's my lead back in my fantasy team, and I'm just in trouble. Yeah, not good. All right, so we've got the Buccaneers and the Falcons. We're going to come up with a parlay, group parlay.

Since CJ's not here, just be us three. Let's do it. That's fine with us. All right, so what do you think? I'll go first. I am taking Mike Evans 50 plus yards. Really? Yep, I'm going safe.

I did 60 with Devon Singletary. I think at minus 210. That's a pretty safe bet to add to the parlay. It's a little over what I want in value, but Mike Evans has been on a tear of Baker. Well, I'm going to compete with you because I'm going Chris Godwin 50s. Really? Yeah.

Spreading the ball out, Baker. Yeah. Well, all right. I'm going to, I like, how do you guys feel about cousins this year? He's looking better and better every week. Yeah. So I was thinking about going alternate passing yards with Kirk. I like that.

I like having so on the Falcons in this thing, too. And so, but the only thing is, is, let me see, here it is. I thought about taking the bucks money. Do you all know what the odds are on your legs? Yes, mine's minus 210. Mine's minus 250. All right, so I go Kirk Cousins, 200 yards passing you. So that's a, that's at 250.

Nice. Gotcha. All right, so Kirk Cousins at over 200 yards passing, and then your legs were? Mike Evans, 50 yards. 50 plus. Godwin. All right, we're going to make that bet.

All right, I'll put a unit down. We're coming out of Vegas or coming out of Kansas and going to Vegas with our money. We're coming out of Kansas. What were some of the bets you made this weekend? How'd you do? We did really good.

We actually gave out some long shot options and Ross Chastain was one of them. So I feel good about that one. But we did really well with the props. I had under three and a half forwards to be in the top 10. I was so confident in that. And over 18 and a half drivers

to finish on the lead lap. So that was good. Man, all right. That's some of the randomest. Those are, yeah, there's one sportsbook out there that has some really random props, but they're fun. All right, bud. So we're going into Talladega.

This is one of those weekends where, you know, you kind of just play for fun. Don't play to win. It's a bit of a lottery. So kind of protect yourself and being conservative on your bets. But with that said, it is also Talladega in the playoffs. And as we mentioned earlier in the show, you do tend to get those, you know, those drivers that you would expect to win there. They do win this particular race.

Totally agree. So you might want to change just a little bit and maybe go for an all-out winner like a Blaney or Ligano or something like that. But so anyways, what are you thinking now? I think the same way. I think Lugano, this seems like a type of race he would win. And I think William Byron, for something's kind of leaning me towards him. He's leading the standings now. He's kind of getting up at the right time.

he could probably sneak one in and move on. So, right on. So what other, are there any other kind of fun, we always talk about these kind of fun bets that we like to make. For example, like in Major League Baseball,

will there be a hit, will there be a run score in the first inning or anything like that? Those are kind of the fun, fun props that you can play with. Is there, I think that maybe Talladega in that type of race presents that opportunity.

There are stage matchups where you can just, the first opening stage, you can, they'll have like a regular head-to-head matchup and you can pick one of those. Those are usually pretty fun too if you want like a quick winner before anything really happens in the race. Yeah. So you can build your, build your bankroll out, you know, before the checker flag. All right, man.

Well, some of the best bets will be covered on Thursday when Dirty Mo Doe drops on our dirty moe drops on our dirty mo media platforms. You won't want to miss it. Steve LaTart, Alex and the guys will be talking about some of their refined arguments and opinions about what to make in in terms of bets for this race coming up at Talladega. So you can have a lot of fun. I always putting a couple bucks on a game always makes it a lot more interesting for me. I don't risk so much that I'm going to be disappointed if I lose. And so I can imagine that would be a great way to enjoy this race coming up this weekend.

So thank you, Tim's. Thank you. It's time for the white flag. dropping after the race in Kansas, the tear down with Jeff Gluck and George Bianchi, doing a great job. Those guys covering everything going on in our sport. There was a ton going on in that race,

and I'd love to hear their reactions on some of their opinions about the past weekend, and they definitely are doing an amazing job on that show. Yesterday, action is detrimental with Denny Hamlin dropped. Denny going over everything that he witnessed and experienced behind the steering wheel in the race at Kansas. Doorbubble Clear, the spotters, all given their input on what's going on in Kansas

and what to look for this weekend in Talladega. Dropping tomorrow's Speed Street with Connor Daly and Chase Holden. Those guys continue to crank out great content. Weekend, week out. Carson and Travis Quaple will be the guest interview for tomorrow on the ally guest segment for the Dale Junior Download. I'm excited about that. I want to tell people, I guess, you know,

Travis and me have struck up an unlikely for friendship through working with his son Carson through our late model stock program. It has been really, really rewarding for me. And certainly can't wait to share some great news that we're going to have for that show. But Thursday, the DJD Reloaded will be back out, be dropping again with Ask Jr. that we did live today. And more on that show as well. Can't wait to see them. You guys do a good job kind of creating content and conversation off of the back of the Tuesday,

Dale Jr. download. And so it would be fun to see what you come up with. Dirty Modeau, as we mentioned, will drop as well on Thursday. A new episode of Andrew Curlin went there with Grammy-nominated songwriter and country artist. Drew Parker is out now on the next level with Andrew Curlin YouTube page. I saw that. Drew is a great friend of ours. We love his music.

He's also a Sim Racer. He's in the Mad. He's in the NCAA Football League. So I played Drew. He's Georgia. I'm the UNC Charlotte. I played Drew the other day, 1 35 to 7.

But anyways, Drew, on the latest episode of Andrew Curlin went there. And that is found on the next level with Andrew Curlin YouTube page. Dalton, you've got this week's social media standout. I do. This comes from our YouTube page. 83 DJMI is the guy who's commented this. He said, as a new fan to NASCAR from Australia,

I've been following NASCAR for about four years, but would watch some many years ago, and he stumbled across the Dale Jr. download by accident. And now he waits for it every week, as well as Denny Hamlin's action is instrumental. I want to know, how do you find us by accident? You know, like, not that we are everywhere, but like, did he see it?

I don't know, like, did he just like randomly stumble across it on social media? What was it? I'd be interested to find out. It's crazy thinking there's people listening all around the world. I love it. Yeah, it's awesome. I love it. We appreciate that.

We appreciate the support. We want to hear from you. Continue to give us the five-star reviews. We will continue to read them on the show. You might be surprised to hear yours. The question of the week comes from Christopher Bell. What is up with your driving technique in the car? Why do you do it?

How did you develop it? Yeah, why? All right. So what he's talking about is basically, as I drive down a straightaway I hold the wheel just like everyone else a bit of a 10 and 2

if you're looking at the steering wheel and it's a clock you got your left hand at the 10 o'clock and your right hand of the 2 that's kind of way most drivers will drive and as they turn into the corner they really don't move their hands they kind of keep them in those positions and drive into the corner like this right

and so what that does is your right hand ends up sort of right in front of your face. Right? And so for me, I didn't like to look through my hand. And I didn't like my knuckles or my glove or anything to sort of be obscuring my vision. And as I start to get close to the corner and I'm turning the wheel steering toward the turn, I move my right hand over and put it beside my left hand.

And now I'm at 10 and 10.30. right 1037 yeah and so I steer and then I drive the car through the corner and what's that

there's a nickname for that that grip on the wheel and it's called the Arkansas pull and the man who is best known for this and is most celebrated

for this style of driving is Mark Martin and I don't know that I intentionally copied him but I do know that when I ran when I started to become a race car driver, when I truly started to develop into a driver,

was in 1998, a little bit of 97 and 98-99 in the Xfinity series, and Mark Martin raced with us in the Wind Dixie car, it seemed every other week. And he was the car to beat. When that car showed up, they were going to be the car that you looked at on the lap time sheet, and you mimicked and watched his line, and he tried to get out there and get around him in practice to watch how he was doing it.

And so it might be coincidental that, you know, that was his style, and I also adapted that style as well, but I have to feel like that, you know, Mark was influential on me and so many other racers during those years. Surely you learned a lot from him when you raced with him in the Cup series. But if you were fortunate enough to be racing with him when he would drop down, into the Bush series, you were very lucky to be able to learn what you could. And he was really, really inspirational and influential. And you would be able to, he was the kind of person that was really approachable in the garage.

So if you had a question, there was no dumb questions. You could walk up to Mark and go, Mark, I feel like I'm an idiot out here doing X, Y, and Z, and what should I be thinking? And he never made you feel foolish or anything. And he would just answer the question. And so, yeah, I just wanted to, I feel like that's very comfortable for me to drive that way. And it really has a lot to do with not only how I saw Mark Martin do it, and he was always fast. But as I steer into the corner, I positioned myself really, really low in the car.

That's a habit of my dads that I adapted and I positioned myself super low. and I want the steering wheel to be as far away from me, away from my lap belt. I don't want it to interfere and come in contact with the lap belt at all or any of the latching or anything down there. I don't want my glove or anything to be coming by and collecting anything with the seatbelt. And so I will sit myself as low as possible

and then I put the steering wheel as high as possible, but I still want to be able to see over the steering wheel and the hood of the car. But as my hand passes through that part of the steering wheel, now that's a big problem for me. And so I would just move my hand, and then as I come up off the corner, I put the hand back over on the right side of the wheel,

and I just move the whole race. The whole race, I'm just doing it. It's kind of like a dance movie. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like that shocks a lot of current cup driver. I'm really surprised. I had that observation.

Connor Zillitz when you were in the Sim was saying, I don't know how he does it. So that seems to be an observation. I know. I got up on the intro stage at Bristol and SVG grabbed me and goes, man, how do you drive like that? I was like, you just got to try it to see what you think. I would, you know, I watched when Brad Kiselowski was racing with us,

he drives tradition. at 10 and 2 all the time. Or 9 and 3, it kind of depends, but basically just kind of keeping both hands on opposite sides of the wheel at all times. And I went to a test and tried to drive that way. So we're out there testing

8 to 5, 2 days, going to run many, many laps, going to have all kinds of time to kill. And so I'd go out there and run and try to drive like they would drive, and I just feel like I don't know what the car is about to do. When I get down in the corner, I don't know exactly what's coming next,

and I don't feel like I really got a hold of the race car. And so, you know, when you're down in the corner and everything's loaded up, right, and you're driving that car through the center of the corner, you're hanging on to it like a bull rider, hangs on to that belt, right, or that rope. And you got to make sure you got to hold of it. You got control of that car. That car is like an wild animal trying to get out of your hands, right?

And that position is the position. I feel like I have the most control over that car and what it's about to try to do and what I'm going to make it do. You know what I mean? And so when I'm out here, I don't feel like I've, I feel like the car's controlling me.

And I'm not able to react in a second to fix something that's about to happen. Because as you're driving a race car around the racetrack, it's always trying to do something you don't want it to do. Always. It's crazy. And so your, your reaction. to that and fixing that with little inputs here and there and that's the best way for me to do it.

Is that at every race track? Every track. What happens when you turn right on road course? Do you cross over? We'd have to, I don't know. Go back and watch. I'll be honest. I would not be able to tell you.

I think we'd have to turn on some ink car and see. I have to go do that this week, see what you do. I might drive normally. You could just like, yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's only muscle habit for right or left, I'm sorry, and then right is, yeah. Interesting. Yeah, maybe I cross arms in left-hand turns at road courses, but in the right-hand turns, I don't.

I don't know. Kind of black out. I have no idea. Like, I don't even know I'm doing this, right? I don't, it's not an intentional, it's not, it takes zero effort. It's like breathing. It's like it's instinctual, I don't even know I do it, and I don't choose to do it. It's just something that happens.

It's fascinating. Yeah, it is. I couldn't stop it if, I mean, it's such a habit. I couldn't stop it if I had to try because it happened. it doesn't even take a thought. All right, that's the show. I hope you guys enjoyed it. Remember tomorrow, we're going to have Carson and Travis Quaple come in for an interview.

It's going to be a lot of fun. I hope you tune in. Appreciate you listening today. Have a great rest of your week, and we'll be a part of it. Take it easy. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.