The Dale Jr. Download - 585 - Roval: Turn 7 & "A Sh!t Doughnut"

Episode Date: October 15, 2024

Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back from his birthday vacation to recap the end of the NASCAR Cup Playoffs Round of 12 on this edition of Dirty Air. The Charlotte Roval produced many compelling storylines, and... he joins special co-host TJ Majors to recap it all:Hendrick Motorsports will NOT appeal Alex Bowman penaltyThe Roval’s new turn 7 was a successThe fans would like to have the Charlotte oval back in the PlayoffsThe problem with track limitsNASCAR Cup Playoffs Round of 8 previewUpdates to the Damage Vehicle PolicyOverhauling NASCAR’s race control processDale's move to wearing contacts Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:04 Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr., and I am back in the studio for another episode of the Dale Jr. download. I took a little bit of time off, but I'm here again with my co-host, T.J. Majors, and we're going to cover everything that's been going on in the sport the past couple of weeks that I missed. We've got a lot to cover. Let's get going. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. Eighth. You're Dale and Jr. You're a complete moron if you undo your belt in a moving race car. Moron.
Starting point is 00:00:42 Five. Four, three. Hill, Rally, and disregard the bird. That was unnecessary. The Dale Jr. Download starts now. Go, go, go. Hey, go. Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr.
Starting point is 00:01:03 We're back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download. And we're, yeah, we're in the Dirty Mo Media Studio for a Tuesday show. And my co-host, T.J. Majors, is here. Thank you, T.J. for coming in. Yeah, glad to be back, man. I feel like you've been gone forever, though. That was an awkward pause. It felt like 10 seconds, even though it was only probably one.
Starting point is 00:01:24 I was in deep thought. Well, are you with me? Ready? Yeah. Okay. All right. Listen, man, yeah, I have been gone. But I'm back.
Starting point is 00:01:33 I had a birthday. Oh, not just a little one. Hey, that's right. 50 Big 50-5-0. Yeah, we'll talk about that a little bit. We're going to push all the personal stories to the back end of the show, and we've got a few to share. But right now we're going to. to say thank you to tire pros.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Today's Dirty Air segment brought you by our friends at Tire Pro's, whether you know a lot about cars or a little. The pros at Tire Pros are the go-to. From an old change to an engine repair, they've got you covered. Visit your local Tire Pro today. I want to thank Kenny Wallace for filling in last week. That was a fun surprise, I think, for most people. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:10 Yeah, it was. Yeah. You guys enjoy that. Yeah, it was a wild ride. Dalton and Andrew, Thames, everybody. Have a good time. Not too good a time, I hope. No.
Starting point is 00:02:19 It's like when somebody else drives your race car, you're like, yeah, go out there and run good, but not too good. Exactly. Not really, really good. Yeah. We had no idea where the show was going to go. Suddenly at the end, we all found ourselves singing with no music. Yeah. So it was a wild ride, but I cannot wait for that new show to drop.
Starting point is 00:02:36 Got you. I was wondering how that was going to go. Suddenly at the end, we found ourselves, and I didn't know what you were going to say. He didn't know what the end was when he started the sentence. He just found it along the way. Along the way. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, they're the Kenneys. They're going to start a show. I was talking to Mike Davis about this yesterday. Kenny Wallace, Kenny Schrader,
Starting point is 00:02:59 they're going to create a show around those two guys on Dirtimo Media. Kenny Wallace has been killing it with his own stuff. Love that man and supporting him, doing everything. He's out there just, you know, quick reactions to everything happening in the sport. And we love what he's doing. and wanted to see if maybe we could work together on something. So Kenny Wallace, Kenny Schrader coming together, going to do a show on Dirtymoe Media. We haven't got a title for this show yet.
Starting point is 00:03:28 My favorite is stacking Kenny's. I did see that one. That's a very original. It's hilarious. So Mike and I were talking about it, and he's like, yeah, we can't use that one. It's funny, but we can't use it. I'm like, why not?
Starting point is 00:03:43 He's like, it sounds like a troll. I'm like, no, man, it's like a tip of the cap. Like hey man this you know stacking pennies Corley LaJoy's show You know it's like a tip of the cap to to that show Well we're they're stacking pennies we're stacking kinnies It's hilarious why is that a problem I thought it was good
Starting point is 00:04:02 How could that be a problem for anybody? Yeah imitation is the best form of flatter right yeah Yes and it is hilarious It's catchy very catchy I just heard it for the first time and I was like that's actually perfect for those two I can't find a flaw in this idea of a show name. Really? Not one.
Starting point is 00:04:20 There's not one flaw. Tell me. It sounds very... I mean, I know we've talked about it sounds very similar to another show, but... People in racing are already familiar with that. I just mentioned that show. You can go ahead and it's out.
Starting point is 00:04:33 You can't out of the bag. You can say what you feel. I don't know. Do you think it'll be taken as flattery? Or do you think it'll be looking like we're trying to steal it? Like someone's... Oh, my God. We know that... People know we're not stealing.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I mean, I think people would know it's an obvious acknowledgement to that show stacking pennies. I do think there's going to be a few that are like, ha-ha, like troll. I do think there are some of them. But I think it's great. It's better than any other name that I've heard. Now there is a, we are doing on, I guess on Dermermot Media's Twitter. If you're following Durnumo Media's Twitter, there will be a poll
Starting point is 00:05:11 or has been a poll or is a poll up right now? I don't know, but there's an opportunity for our fans to engage to vote for this name of the show, right? Yep. And for once, it doesn't matter who won the race. I'm asking you, Andrew, you're supposed to know this shit. Dalton's... Well, you're supposed to know what Don't do in all time.
Starting point is 00:05:32 Exactly. You're the supervising producer. Yes, you're right. Am I right about this? Yes. You are. Tell me more. So there's... We put out a post last week and we asked people to help give us names
Starting point is 00:05:42 and we've gotten, I don't even know, Probably thousands. No kidding. A lot of them are the same, right? A lot of them are pretty generic. You know, your kids and Kenneys. God dang. But it's just, I don't think we have to compile them.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Well, what's doing out? Was there anything good? Are we having a fucking poll on Twitter? At some point. Just texted there will be a polls. Yes. Thank you. How many sunshots have you had already?
Starting point is 00:06:04 When? I just want, we don't got five hours to do this show. So someone said Kenny. No, I'm just kidding. When do, when can fans engage on this? specific posts. We are going to compile them, take the best ones, and it will go out on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:06:20 It looks like it says Tiff has texted us. Going out. Take me. I'm glad. You know what? What would we do without Tiff? I have no idea. I mean, honestly, maybe she needs to sit between shit. I can just ask her all the questions. Yeah. Instead of us being like, get rid of Andrew.
Starting point is 00:06:35 I leave for a week. What are you guys doing? I brought you candy this morning. You did. I filled the office full of candy. You did. That explains the energy, T.J. We had a birthday. We had a birthday party for a four-year-old, and we have a truckload of candy to give away.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I brought it here. We are going to be hyped up in the Dirty Mill offices, that's for sure. Did you sample it on the way? No. I know how you like candy, so, I mean, you... I'm recharged. You know, I've been away for a week. Recharge.
Starting point is 00:07:04 I'm fired up. We had a call yesterday, all of us, talking about, well, sorry, we should have included you, T. But we talked about everything we're going to talk about to do. day. And some interesting news out of the, out of the Hendrick camp, they were not going to appeal the suspension or the penalty with Alex Bowman. So Alex Bowman car, Alex Bowman's car failed weight. Post race, they let him go, you know, NASCAR put out a comment, actually a great video saying, hey, here's the process. We, you know, they failed. We let them fuel it. We let them put, make sure it was full of water.
Starting point is 00:07:44 everything that they can possibly do. We allowed that car to go back over the scale a couple more times, still failed. They give them a tolerance. Really, you know, NASCAR has a lot of rules where there's a bunch tolerance, right? Even on pit lane, there's a speeding, you know, there's not really, you know, there's not strict to the specific speed on pit road. There's like five-mile-an-hour window. And so, I mean, they give you a lot of wiggle room.
Starting point is 00:08:08 And, you know, so he was beyond that point on weight. Now, there was a video of him racing and jumping the curb. Yeah, yeah. He jumped the curb. Yeah, some things falling off the car maybe, right? And so I assumed when I saw that video, oh, man, yeah, they're going to appeal. They might win because they've lost these parts. Maybe they can figure out what these parts are, weigh these parts, and say, here, here's the weight.
Starting point is 00:08:34 It come off the car. You know, we see, I saw the, the, the, the, the, um, the, um, the, the, um, the, the, um, the, the, the legacy club cars did I get that right legacy I can never get that yeah no sorry I can never get the name of that team right it's just weird it's weird name so
Starting point is 00:08:55 they crashed and parts are falling off that car and so I mean parts fall off cars right they continue racing if they did go up and finish well and they were light they would get you know they would get a break on that because you could see the you know will well fall out of that car but
Starting point is 00:09:12 you know so I'm thinking the same thing with Alex. If he lost the weight on the racetrack, it's, damn, they're going to appeal the hell out of this. They're going to win. Alice would get back in. No. I was surprised. I was too, man. I was just kind of really, I was really not expecting that to go that way.
Starting point is 00:09:29 You know, usually, I mean, with everything on the line, and this is Alex's playoff or championship hopes, right? This is, they rest on the idea that they can somehow appeal this. And still be in the final. And they didn't even try to appeal it. So it was, they must have, I called around a little bit yesterday, looking for some information.
Starting point is 00:09:54 There was, I was told that they had no, you know, I was told that there was no understanding as to how the car was like. What might have come off of it. The team, the team at one point yesterday was still as confused as the rest of us. Right. So that was a bit surprising because they're, you know, the teams are good enough and the crew, you know, all the guys and the technical, you know, crew chief engineers. I mean, if the car is light, they're, they're going to, they could probably look at the car and spend 20 minutes in the garage and go, yep, there it is.
Starting point is 00:10:34 There's the problem. And still hours later, they were like dumbfounded or just, you know, still unsure as to how this could happen. and so, you know, I guess I'm going to assume that there's nothing significant of weight that came off of the car. The car was beyond the tolerance that NASCAR allowed, and, you know, even if it's a half a pound, it's beyond the tolerance. Yeah. You know, and if they can't argue that there was some parts and pieces that would make up for that weight lost, then there's no way to win the appeal. they must, Hendrick must look at it and go.
Starting point is 00:11:14 Yeah, we've lost this. There's no way we can win this. This is an obvious mistake, right? That is, I'm really surprised by that. Yeah, got any reaction, guys? How do you pass pre-race inspection then? Yeah, I don't know. I mean, you can still, you still lose weight as you, you know, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:35 There's a lot of tricks after the race people do and stuff as well. I'm ready for you to explain this one. I mean, I don't know. I think they just cut it too close. And I was like you under the assumption that whatever, when he jumped that curb and you could hear some pieces hit the front of the 34, that whatever hits the front of the 34 was going to get close enough where they could prove to get. People had screenshots of like objects in the air, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:57 Yeah. I thought that was going to get them back into that percentage that NASCAR gives you to make weight. Yeah. And apparently, like you said, they went through everything. and I feel like if it was even close, they would appeal it. Right. And it must not even be close. So I think they just had a mistake.
Starting point is 00:12:14 So again, it's either, it was either very close to the rule, the tolerance, right? Yeah. Which then would give, you know, like to your point would make you think, man, they're going to try to appeal it because something fell off the car. Cars got damage, you know, race damage, wearing tear. But maybe it wasn't. close and they thought they had no chance of winning it, then again, yes, to your point, how does it pass pre-race and lose that much?
Starting point is 00:12:45 I have no idea, right? I saw some folks joking around on the internet, as they tend to do, that there was some buckshot maybe on the racetrack. Somebody found some buckshot down. Check the jackpost. Some jackpost, buckshot jackpost. Andrew, you remember those conversations?
Starting point is 00:13:04 On the internet this weekend? or on the show? Yes. Yes. Oh, yeah. I know you've been on some medication. Are you right? I'm fine.
Starting point is 00:13:14 Just as usual stuff. He's just a little slow up there today. I've been looking at you. I've been listening to the show. Now you're freaking me out a little bit. Is it because I'm not doing this? Yeah. Is that what's throwing you off?
Starting point is 00:13:27 Are you okay though? I do know that you're feeling well. I'm feeling. Went to the emergency care. Yeah. Right? After the race on Sunday. I'm good.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Yeah. Okay. He had a little scare. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You okay? Yeah, I'm all right. We don't have to keep this in the show, but...
Starting point is 00:13:42 I won't be racing my Iron Man this weekend, so I'm mostly bummed about that. But, outside of that. Dude, didn't you train? Yeah. You trained for like three days. Three days. Three days. Four days.
Starting point is 00:13:54 Four days. Four and a half days. Just started last week. I was just going to get it out. All right, me. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm glad you're feeling better. Incredible turnaround.
Starting point is 00:14:04 You know what? You're in such great. shape, you got ill, and in 24 hours you're back at it. That's like your flu game. Just a little brain fog, but otherwise, you're all there. I don't feel the brain fog, but apparently everyone else see it. I'm sensing some brain fog. We're waving front of them.
Starting point is 00:14:19 Aren't you? You're right? I don't know what I sense with Andrew yet. I sense a little brain fog. Well, we did get here. When I look at him, I see just, he's not all there. I mean, we got here in our head says didn't work, so I feel like there is some brain fog. He's not all there.
Starting point is 00:14:33 He's trying his artist, but he's, just not there. I can see you're speaking, but I can't hear you. Oh my gosh. Okay. It's hard to see the two of you. Yeah, big surprise on that. The fact that Hendrit won't appeal that
Starting point is 00:14:49 and try to, you know, hey, what do they got to, what do you got to lose? What do you got to lose? So, that's a good question. I know in the Cars Tour to, I try not to compare the Cup series to the Cars Tour because it's literally couldn't be any different
Starting point is 00:15:07 in terms of the enormity of the cup series. But I know in the car store you pay 500 bucks to file the appeal, win or lose. You pay the $500 to get the chance to appeal. I'm interested in what the teams, NASCAR teams in the Cup Series, do they have to pay? What is the lever they have to pull, right?
Starting point is 00:15:28 To get an appeal to go into process. But anyways, how many hell I should know that. We filed one ourselves. trying to win, you know, our issues with the one car, right? So, but anyways, we'll talk about that. We're going in the Xfinity series here in a bit, but also wanted to talk about the Roval this weekend. The reconfigured turn seven makes an interesting debut as they, you know,
Starting point is 00:15:56 people made a pretty big deal out of this. It ended up being an area where there was a lot of contact, totally expected, right? Not a problem. I thought it was great. I mean, yes and no. I mean, I didn't, I liked that people can make passes there, but a lot of the passes weren't. Did you see Sam Mayer's pass for the lead in the Xfinity?
Starting point is 00:16:19 Awesome. Textbook. Sam was fast. That was a textbook pass for that, for that portion of the racetrack. This new configuration right there. Awesome job. Yeah, San Bitt a good job. So, there were also some really bad passes there too, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:33 Tyler Radick. So, no, I'm joking. Actually, that was a good pass. That I was on the receiving end of a bad pass. You were. I was, and I was spotting a car that was on the receiving end of it, and it's not good when they're not fun. You would have loved that corner.
Starting point is 00:16:45 I, listen, as a viewer, I loved it. I agree. Yeah. And so, you know, there was, that, if you look at the aerial of Charlotte, Mary Speedway, they have all kinds of going on in that road course that they could do differently.
Starting point is 00:17:04 they have, you know, when they run the Legends cars through there, they try, they use different portions of the road course. But there's a lot of variety there and options to do different things and challenge the team. So as Marcus Smith likes to do, they'll go a couple years and then they're going to change something. They'll go a couple years and they're going to change something. They've got to do something to get people interested in buying tickets to see what might happen, right? And that's kind of been the MO for Marcus. and Charlotte Mare Speedway going way back to Humpy Wheeler. Humpy Wheeler was a showman, a promoter,
Starting point is 00:17:40 always, you know, making things happen and throwing curveballs at the teams and drivers. And so it's, you know, I thought, I didn't really think that, you know, I wasn't a big fan of the Roval. I'm still not a road course guy. I don't love, you know, a lot of road courses in my stock car racing. But I did like that change. the reason why I liked it and I always
Starting point is 00:18:07 kind of this is kind of my M.O. in terms of what I want to see when I watch a race. I want to see the drivers being uncomfortable situations and I want to see them be forced or tempted to do things that are out of character
Starting point is 00:18:20 and that corner put them in a ton of uncomfortable spots and it also made some of them have to do things they typically don't like to do you know you could see drivers like putting it three wide or dive-bobbing somebody and knowing they're going to knock the guy out of the way and they don't they're not bad people they're not but they had to drive like
Starting point is 00:18:42 in that corner right sometimes right and so it was just fun to see what might happen and you could tell as they entered that turn and how they were positioning themselves like this is going to be bad right there's contact coming um so i thought it was good um there was a uh there was a uh Gluck poll, was it a good race? And I think people approved of the race, but there was a second poll that Gluck put up, said, hey, would you rather be watching the Oval or the Roval in this part of the season? Roval Good Race was 55% yes. Maybe not as good as I thought. I thought that would be a little higher. So that's kind of, I mean, when I look at a poll and it's pretty even like that, I say that's a bad result.
Starting point is 00:19:31 Yeah, I agree. Yeah, I agree. It's not really majority. You want more than half the people liking what the hell happened. But I thought, you know, aside, I mean, the five runs away. He dominates.
Starting point is 00:19:41 That hurts the poll, right? Sure. Everybody's going to vote negative. A lot of people will vote negatively when there's not a great battle for the finish. Right. Or a late yellow that sets up a hell of a finish. So, but there was a lot of drama.
Starting point is 00:19:56 A lot of, I liked the race because of turn seven. The configuration to me was much better. Even 5, even turn 5 leading up to 6, or even 5 and 6 there, leading into turn 7, which was the hair pin, like they're on edge, like carrying a lot of speed, and you're all the way out to the edge of the grass. Which those guys, I mean, coming into 7,
Starting point is 00:20:17 the way the track, I enjoyed that configuration more than the previous version. If they didn't have turn 7, this would have been a damn boring ass race. Yes. How it's set up was definitely really cool. Yeah. And the same thing, second poll you referenced. The results are 75% people voted for Oval, 25% people voted for Oval. Yeah. In terms of their preference. So, we had, you know, if, if the race was really, really bad, which it wasn't, and the good race poll was heavily favored toward the no, right? You might say,
Starting point is 00:20:53 well, this is just because this was a bad race. It was just an anomaly. The, you know, this is just people saying, these are the same people that voted no, right, saying I want the oval. But the roval vote for good race was even and even a little skewed toward the positive. And, you know, people still want to see the oval. And the reason is, is because the racing is so great on the mile and a halfs. It really is. It is. You know, we give this car a bit of a hard time at short tracks and the road courses.
Starting point is 00:21:27 The road courses have been kind of stricken by the illness that this car has at the short tracks. And so, yeah, people want to see the car run where it runs great. And I agree. And I think Charlotte, honestly, the 600, I mean, it's been insane good the last couple of years. And so now I can understand that poll. Marcus will look at that and say, hey, man, Marcus is going to try to get. give you what you're asking for. For sure.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Right. He's wanting to sell tickets. That's all that matters to Marcus is trying to get more people to come to his racetrack. And so if people are hollering for the Oval, he's more than likely going to do that. Maybe he flips it and puts the roval at the beginning of the year. I can't see him getting rid of the 600. Right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:19 You know, that makes it a bit tough, but maybe you move the 600 to the playoffs. Yeah. I don't know. Dude. Pretty wild. A freaking, the 600 is a legendary race because of the duration, right? We're so used to ovals and even in indie, right? The Indy 500, the Daytona 500.
Starting point is 00:22:43 I mean, that's the benchmark in distance, right? But the Charlotte, the World 600 is the only one of its kind. I know that it's traditionally built around that very, very popular. race weekend. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Right. And it'd be hard to pluck it out of that. But maybe you do. It's kind of like, you know, the Daytona race that was in July, moved away from July 4th, and everybody, myself included, we're like, oh, man, I love it. And I love it on that weekend. But what we have heard now, you know, hadn't heard this directly from government officials down to Daytona, but they don't mind it being on a different weekend.
Starting point is 00:23:21 They are going to have people there on July 4th. They don't need a Daytona 400 or NASCAR race in town because they're going to have a great weekend either way. Yeah, I agree. So if they can have a great weekend later in the year, because the NASCAR race is there, then they double up, right? So is it maybe better for Charlotte to not be on that, you know, that 600? They run the, if you run the Roval that weekend, right, on that weekend in the spring, move your 600 later in the year where people are asking for an Oval, I'm going to get roasted for
Starting point is 00:23:55 this. I don't like that. I think you're going to be a run it. But okay, so when do you, time-wise, when do you run it? Is it going to be into the night race on the roval? You know what I mean? Because you got Monaco in the morning. No.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Oh, yeah. That alone, you don't get to do the double anymore. What is it the double where you do the Indy 500, then the roval? That's not cool. All right. All right. Yeah. Wow.
Starting point is 00:24:18 All right. This is a bad. Listen. I know what you're saying, though, because putting the, like, I do like the, I mean, I think it'd be great to run the Oval and the chase. I just don't see... I guess my problem is I want the Oval
Starting point is 00:24:31 but I know I'm not going to lose the roval even if I want to. I know that the roval's not going away. Yeah, I don't know. We were leaving the race because Andrew and I both went on Sunday and I was saying that like the roval was fine.
Starting point is 00:24:47 Like it's a good experience. You go and it's really, really cool. I mean, there's nothing against the roval, but you're not going to get me to say I'd rather have that than the oval. Yeah. Like even, you can have the best race there possible.
Starting point is 00:25:00 And I'm still going to go, I'd still rather be a counter to buy one ticket or the other. You're always going to buy the only ticket. Every time. Like, no, and it's not even a shadow immediate. I'm not like, oh, baby.
Starting point is 00:25:10 No, oval, every time. Yeah, same here. So, but I do want to ask real quick, does it being a cutoff race make it better? Like, if you drop the rope in the middle of them.
Starting point is 00:25:21 It don't, it don't hurt. Right. But I mean, you're like, you know, you're putting sugar on. on a shit donut.
Starting point is 00:25:26 I mean, exactly. Makes it, man, I don't know. That's the title. Don't do that. Like powder sugar or like right?
Starting point is 00:25:35 I don't know. I'm just saying like you're, you know, you're putting a nice paste scheme. You're putting a good paint scheme on a rust bucket. Exactly. You've nailed it with the first one. Donut.
Starting point is 00:25:44 But I mean like if you drop the roval in April. If you drop the roval in April, does it do anything? Does it really matter? Because like the whole time. It hurts it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's like, it's like, hey, it's like, it's like you got a piece of
Starting point is 00:25:58 furniture in the room and you're just moving it around to different parts. And you're like, it's a little better over here. Right. So I still a shit. The race in general is just not a good race. Like, it's, and it's nothing. It's not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:09 It was a, it was a neat thing out of the gate. And it's kind of a lot. And then we had a couple years where we had the rain, the Xfinity race that was in that pouring rain was awesome. Monsoon. I'm not so sure this race is, is better in the middle of, like, earlier in the year because It isn't. Right now, it's...
Starting point is 00:26:26 It's not better than early. No, I know. I know what you're saying, but like it, right now it's so high pressure packed right now because some people need stage points. But damn, imagine if it was on the oval with that pressure. I know. Well, that... And it's the 600, too, so not, you know...
Starting point is 00:26:39 Well, just... All right, forget my... Precise of the event. Forget my idea about moving the 600. That's not happening. And it was a bad idea. We shot it full of holes. And so...
Starting point is 00:26:50 But if we do, if he did... Okay, so if Marcus did say, fine, fine, no roval. He's put all that effort into that thing, building it up. He gives it the guillotine. He puts it on the chopping lot. And we get the Oval race with that kind of pressure. That'd be cool.
Starting point is 00:27:08 I'm here for it. Yeah. I think it'd be great. I do like the varying strategies of a road course race. You might not get that on the oval. That's a good point. You're not going to get that on the Oval. Especially, like, a road course in an elimination race spot is almost...
Starting point is 00:27:22 What if they just... Give us about three or four more turn sevens. Yeah. Can you kind of position them all around? Turn seven. No, no, we had one at Cota. Turn one at Cota is the same thing as turn seven at the roval. It is what I call one guy, the hairpin hero.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Like, you got a lot of guys that are just going to drive all the way down there. Oh, look, racetrack. Oh, race cars, bam. It's not going to work. I don't disagree with you, Curlin. Like, I don't mind a road course. You know what? mind the strategy, but I just, why the Charlotte Roval? You know what I don't like about,
Starting point is 00:27:57 one thing I don't like about the Roval? Like, what's wrong with the Roval, right? So, the one thing I don't like about the Roval is watching the cars go through the chicane on the front stretch looks so awkward and almost impossible. And so why, you know, we do have, so they come out of the chicane on the back straight away, and there is a passing opportunity coming into that. that chicane on the front stretch, right? But it's such a bad chicane. It's not, it's like a, it's like, it's like, hey, you know, it's an off-brand, no-name chicane, right?
Starting point is 00:28:36 It's not your good chicane. It's not your, it's not your good brand chicane. It's the, brand store brand chicane, right? So, get that freaking store brand chicane off the race track. And imagine. What's a fancy chicane then? Well, a fancy chicane. The bus stop at the glen?
Starting point is 00:28:52 The bus stop is a glen. Purpose built, right? A real freaking road course. So basically, imagine all of the great moments. Man, that this, there's only one flaw with this. But if you take that chicane out, the passing opportunity then comes down into turn one,
Starting point is 00:29:13 which is, I still like to call it heartburn turn. Right, never we had it. Yeah. The Tums were there. Do y'all want to know a cool story about that? Yeah. So the Tums, people buy the turn. And we're like, oh, great, heartburned turn.
Starting point is 00:29:25 It's perfect, right? And you know how in historical road courses, there's all these amazing names for each corner. We just mentioned one, right? And Big Ben and U Rouge. Yeah. Well, I'm like, hello, y'all, that's the fucking turn. That's the name of that turn for the rest of its life. We came back the next year and Thumbs didn't buy the corner.
Starting point is 00:29:46 Someone else bought it. And they were like, hey, don't call it that anymore. Don't call it heartburn turn. I'm like, why the fuck not? It's heartburn turn. Still heartburn turn. Right. It's still creating some heartburn.
Starting point is 00:29:56 It's perfect. It's a great name for the turn. But then the, you know, the people were like, the people that were my bosses were like, ah, don't call it that. It's not Tums anymore. It's not Tums this year. I'm like, well, that don't really have to be Tums to be Heartburn Turn. But there was a new sponsor down there and they were like, oh, you can't call it that
Starting point is 00:30:16 because there's a new sponsor down there that didn't really have a cool name for a turn. It's a shame. I hate when that stuff doesn't work out. You know, it's like you had the perfect opportunity. Get out of the way. Get the hell out of the way. Call it heartburn turn. So imagine if the chicane wasn't there, they could race around and, you know, that, that
Starting point is 00:30:35 damn turn, they would be putting each other in a wall. God, that'd be so fast. I was just thinking, you got to get rid of one of the chicanes. But the back stretch or front stretch, one of the other. I would do front stretch, then. Well, the only issue with that is you take a passing zone, you take a passing opportunity out right before the first. finish line. So if you got two cars
Starting point is 00:30:55 racing to the end, you don't have what we had with Truex and Jimmy Johnson. Right. Right. Yeah. Which was bad for their fans, but dramatic and awesome for Blaney fans. And that was the first Roval too. So what a great way to start that. You don't have, you take away a potential dramatic moment for any finish to a stage or the end of the race. But yeah, I'll tell you though, man, that
Starting point is 00:31:18 that damn chicane is off brand, no name, store brand, chican. That's what we call it, no name chican. No name chican. What do you think happens if they don't have the backstrettech chicane and they got to go through three and four from term seven? Wide open. Do you think they can do it wide open in them cars? I mean, in those cars, probably. I don't know. Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:31:39 Yeah, can they, without the backst chracecane, do they lift for three, like the big track three and four? Oh, I mean, how fast are they going? Because you have, well, you have no camera in the left front. So you're all, the left front's cambered the wrong way. You probably would, they probably can't do it because the left front tire would fail. Over time, you would wear it. So the left front tires cambered the wrong way and so driving it through that bank turn for 20 laps, say, would cord that fucking thing.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Take some camera out. I'm with you. Make the team fucking get the setup right. Yeah. I'm with you. Make it work. That would be interesting. It would be wild.
Starting point is 00:32:14 It would. But, all right. So, turn seven, we like turn seven. Track limits, penalties we had. Speaking of the no-name chican. Yeah. Here we are. Here we are.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So the no-name chican, man. All right. So they, you know, the drivers complained about the turtles and how aggressive and hard it was to get over them. It was painful even. Truex speaks up. Kyle Bush says, thank you, Martin. Damn, I'm glad somebody said it.
Starting point is 00:32:44 NASCAR immediately. reacted track NASCAR get together. They take the turtles out of the inside of the no-name chican. And what that did was present the opportunity for cars to cut that corner and have some track limit violations, which we hate. I'm of the opinion that if you have to enforce track limits, you have built the tracking correctly. Speaking to you, Kota.
Starting point is 00:33:13 So, you know, the F1 cars, I don't know, I don't really watch a lot of that racing at Cota, but do they have as much problems with track limits? They seem to get around there, okay? Well, they have strict penalties that they use them. They don't mess around. Right. So whatever we need to do to, like, get ourselves out of that sort of judgment call would be awesome. But, you know, our guys, you know, we had a lot of cars get,
Starting point is 00:33:43 kind of busted for track limits. You had Bubba Wallace cut in the corner there. He cut it pretty big looking at the photo here. The 24, he's left of the red and white curbs, which is I think where you have to have tire. You can't have any blue showing. But. And Bubba got a penalty.
Starting point is 00:34:10 Byron did not. Yeah, I know. So, you know, Byron, Yeah. That's a penalty. Sorry. But that's the problem. So both them are penalties in my mind. Do you guys agree? I would agree. If you're going to penalize one, you got to do the other. Yeah, I think Byron is, Byron eclipsed the apex of the corner beyond and got a wait. So to me, by the word of the law, there are both penalties. The problem is that I don't believe it can be enforced consistently through the field. lap after lap after lap after lap.
Starting point is 00:34:45 You'd have to literally have some guy sitting there watching every single car. And that guy would even miss some cars. Of course. Yeah. And so we know because of something that happened later in the race that they don't have the bodies on
Starting point is 00:35:01 the racetrack. They don't have the spotters to be able to be doing all of the things. The Xfinity race. Yes. Yes. And so no, I'm sorry. No, I got you. And so you know, that's the problem with track limits. The reason why I don't like track limits is, A, I don't think a track, I think there should be a deterrent, a wall, grass, dirt, gravel, something that would keep you away from that part of the racetrack. You would not want to cut that corner.
Starting point is 00:35:30 But I also don't love it because I know that it can't be perfectly governed. and there will be drivers that will purposely or accidentally break that particular rule and then I'm going to see a few of those and then when I get called out I'm going to be really freaking mad, right? That's what aggravates me about track limits. But in this case, there's no question they did the right thing
Starting point is 00:36:02 in terms of the change to the racetrack. Hell, it looked like they needed to take some more turtles, out because we saw the 48 launch in the air, a few other cars. That couldn't have been any fun, right? No. That could have been, that had to have been pretty painful. But then you're going to be track limits everywhere, right? And so, you know, I wonder if we have the Roval. Yeah. That's the one 48. Yeah, that's the one 48. That's the curve. That's the turtles. Oh, yeah. That's the, that's the left-hander that the 48th? Yeah, so they fixed the interior,
Starting point is 00:36:38 they fixed the right side of the no-name chicanne, but the left side, the exiting corner, still had it, still had it. And so, yeah, I mean, but if you take it all out, then you're governing more parts of the racetrack and more apexes, and you're going to have to have, you know, you're going to have more of this where people are posting on social media going,
Starting point is 00:36:58 this guy got penalized, this guy didn't, why? And you're going to have drivers arguing the same thing. And so that, you know, that is what it is. Track limits are, or track limits suck. And the tracks that have them, I don't, I don't really, you know, what are you going to, I don't like it. Judgment calls, judgment calls are terrible. Like, you shouldn't, I put, put something there to where it's, if you hit it, it hurts your, hurt your car or something where you won't hit it. I mean, do you just straight up put a mini wall there?
Starting point is 00:37:25 No, a mini wall. Yeah, I don't know. What the fuck? How tall is this wall, two inches? Only about three inches. No, no, like. I don't know. Just a temporary wall.
Starting point is 00:37:34 At Sonoma, they used to put tires in turn 11. And the drivers, these guys... They pushed them. He would just hit them when he goes by and move him in, move them in. Yeah, especially with the F-O-T. You can hit the shit out of their tires. That damn thing was a block. That's a tank.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Yeah, tank. It probably drove better after you hit it. You weren't going to make it drive worse. Oh, man. The, yeah, I don't know what you put there that would be a better deterrent. No chagin. You know, I don't think you can't put a wall there. you can't put a wall.
Starting point is 00:38:06 So, yeah, you can't do that. They need an escape route in case something bad that's going on. But either way, I don't know. Hey, we have the round of eight preview. We have, you know, Kyle Larson at plus 33. He had an incredible start to the playoffs. And to me, looks like the favorite at this point. Christopher Bell
Starting point is 00:38:33 I think is poised and ready to make a legit run at winning his first championship in Phoenix and I think he gets there Tyler Redick though our regular season champion
Starting point is 00:38:46 has been stumbling the team 2311 not flashing right now am I right I mean do you guys feel like that there's been a he's falling off ever since yeah definitely not
Starting point is 00:38:58 finishing his consistent for sure but could you even argue that we've had, at least this feels like, a very non-traditional lineup of racetracks to start the playoffs. This round is finally normal. Like Vegas, Miami-Martinsville are three not really sketchy racetracks.
Starting point is 00:39:16 Deity blasted the first two rounds of the playoffs in terms of the tracks they chose to put in those rounds. I agree with him. NASCAR and the tracks, trying to make it drama field, trying to make moments, trying to create moments. But Denny's like, I didn't grow up honing my skills to run these tracks to earn the greatest,
Starting point is 00:39:40 you know, the greatest reward being the championship. This isn't what I spent my life sort of prepping myself for. And so it has been absolutely unconventional. Not entirely a great fan of it. You got to, I mean, stock cars are oval cars. and first and foremost, right? And so to be, you know, I know Tala,
Starting point is 00:40:06 but, you know, anyone can look at the schedule and argue, like that's a very untraditional or unorthodox couple of rounds. This will be the critical round, I think, for Tyler. Reddick, can they get, you know, now that we're going to some genuine stock car ovals, can they find this? the speed that they're going to need to continue through the playoffs. William Byron, Ryan Blaney,
Starting point is 00:40:32 plus four, minus four. They're right there at the cut line. Denny Hamlin minus eight, Chase Elliott, minus nine. And then Joey Legato, minus 11. Joey's got to be the happiest guy in town today. And I hear they might add Jeff Gordon as the ninth driver. That, yeah. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:40:47 Joey is sitting there going, man, are they going to file an appeal? And when he learns... I think it's more like, oh, frick. Well, when he learns that they're not filing the appeal, you know that, boy, cussing. You've seen that in car when they tow trucks.
Starting point is 00:41:01 Yeah, for sure. So he's a cusser. He just doesn't do it in public. So I I am excited, excited about these playoffs because you know, Denny Hamlin, Ryan Blaney outside the top four, they're below the cut line, Chase Elliott, Joe Lugano
Starting point is 00:41:22 who flashes in the oddest times. This is his sort of MO to come in here and screw up somebody else's chance set a playoff or an advance. So this is a hell of a list right here, these top eight. Some of the best drivers in the series are obviously going to go for it. We got a great round. Vegas, Miami, Martinsville.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Everybody's, who's calling it Miami? What the... I call it Homestead. Yeah, I don't... It's a... It's not even... In Miami. It's an hour from Miami.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Is it Homestead? Right. Is this round of eight track? I mean, this is a... Is this a NASCAR? This is MB... We're using the NBC graphic. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:58 The NBC graphic, NBC. They were going to put Miami in there maybe just because it's shorter. Maybe. It might be for, yeah. Sounds flashy. They could have moved.
Starting point is 00:42:07 They could have changed Martinsville to Marty. Emville. And Las Vegas, Las Vegas, they could have just dropped the loss. Right. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:16 There's only one Vegas. Yeah. And then they don't even need the word tracks. Round of eight tracks. It could just drop. Round of eight. Vegas.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Miami. Marty. Marty. Marty. What is this hot? the Miami stuff. It's like you're tossing it to come on.
Starting point is 00:42:31 They're like trying to change the identity of homestead. Homestead is Homestead. Miami to me is the Formula One race. That's the Formula One race to me. Miami is a formula one race. I'm just giving somebody a hard time. I probably know the person
Starting point is 00:42:44 that created this graphic. And guess what's going to happen? Next week it's going to say Homestead. Probably. We're going to make some change here. I want to a quick, quick point to what we were talking about earlier, which is the non-traditional
Starting point is 00:42:58 tracks that have got us to this point in the playoffs. Not a fan. We still have I mean if Bowman didn't get eliminated or disqualified it would have been the top eight in points were our final eight drivers but still the top seven in points
Starting point is 00:43:15 represent seven of the eight and then you have Joe Lugano two-time champion as that final eighth spot so it's like even with all the wild cards and things we've thrown at these drivers the best of the best still have risen to the top, which I think it's... Like putting Joey in here, this is the guy that you want to see get eliminated.
Starting point is 00:43:35 Like as far as these other guys, that's the guy they don't want in there. Yeah. So, I mean, but like you said, the start of the... I don't think you can have a plate race, which I consider Atlanta a plate race now pretty much and a road course in the same round, especially back to back, because we go to Atlanta and the first two stages basically set the next round... I mean, basically set the next race up for, I mean, I don't know, it's a one-race playoff after that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:02 So. Look at how many non-playoff winners have won this playoffs already. Like, is that any indication of the type of tracks we're going to that we're getting different winners? Or is that just because the field is that good? I think it's situational. There's some situational stuff that has come up, but, I mean, you're going to see the cream's going to start rising. now with these tracks coming up. Yeah, for sure.
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Starting point is 00:45:34 Two more things we want to talk about before we move to Xfinity, damaged vehicle policy. Since I've been out of the studio, there's been a lot going on with that over the last several weeks. Mask car, okay, you know, unless you've been, if you've been living under Her Rock, I guess, the next-gen car when they get flats the cars get stuck the drivers can't move it's a problem they have these systems that they can put under the car they kind of get
Starting point is 00:46:01 the cars up in the air but they don't have many of those systems and some of the teams save them for places like talladay or the next they don't have them in the cars every week it's not that's not the solution and and chase elliot says we have a car design flaw number one fix the issue the root calls and that's the car right that's a big big task to and likely not realistic. We know how slow the sport moves to remedy those type of issues, and I just don't see a fix coming to where if you had flat tires, you're driving back.
Starting point is 00:46:40 I don't see one. So NASCAR, I believe, has now came and said that they will be towing every vehicle back. So there's some clarification. I actually called someone from NASCAR yesterday to just get some clarification on it. And actually, they sent over a great article from Kelly Crandall, which kind of best maps out this clarification. So if NASCAR will tow back cars to pit road that have one or more flat tires and repairable damage after being involved in an accident, which is a lot of what we saw at Talladega. If a driver has been in an accident and has significant damage, such as a broken radiator or is leaking fluids, or very, clearly they're done.
Starting point is 00:47:23 Yep. They're done. Yeah. Now, here's where Ryan Blaney at Watkins Glen would still be the case is if a driver has four inflated tires but cannot drive it back to pit road, then they will be declared out of the race. All right. Which, if this is the case, I think it's, I think it's great.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Okay. I think it's just, and they, I think the folks at NASCAR even know that the communication on where this policy has landed with the whole Josh Barry. incident and then Talladega, the communication maybe could have been improved, but if this is the case, I think it's a big win. Yeah. Well, I don't know about a win, but I do like the clarification. I don't love that this is something that we have to have. Yeah. I hate that this is necessary. I hate that this is necessary. But I do think that that's moving in the better direction, right? And we did need clarity. Man, there was a lot of quotes and comments.
Starting point is 00:48:21 comments and you didn't know really where NASCAR landed on their own policy that they created and the drivers seemed to be confused and upset about it. But that kind of makes it more clear. They're going to just tow them back. If it looks like, you know, the car can continue in the race, they're just going to drag it to the pits and say, here's your piece of shit fix it if you want. And the rest is, you know, it's in your hands, teams, drivers, crew chiefs. But the problem could be is like,
Starting point is 00:48:51 You know, they may determine a car to be irreparable where a team looks at it and goes, no, we can fix it. You know, and then there'll be more, I can still see, if we go 12 months down the road, there are still being some instances where teams argue against the policy and feel like that they got incorrectly diagnosed as a car that was not able to compete. You can see that coming, right, T.J. Oh, 100%. Who's the person looking at that car saying that it's not fixable?
Starting point is 00:49:20 You know what I mean? Like who's doing that? Like is a safety worker starting to make officiating calls? No, no, no. They would not... NASCAR wouldn't put that... I get what you're saying. Not on a safety word.
Starting point is 00:49:31 They wouldn't put... I mean, is NASCAR going to have someone down at the accident scene? Right, right. An official. Yes. Yeah. It's somebody knowledgeable.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Yeah. I mean, it sucks that we have to have the... This is what we're worried about, you know, trying to get cars back. But there's other things like the timing some guys got towed back. before other guys like the 41 got out of the priest gets out of his car and they hook his car out first and tow him back and then I think the only way to do it in this situation too is when you have a
Starting point is 00:50:01 big wreck that involves that many cars you throw the red flag you tow everybody back to where their spots are and then you let everybody go at the same time yeah to have the have a fair shot and let one more thing that we got to talk couple eyes that we haven't talked I haven't talked about is the lawsuit um so you know there's not been much news or much update and I wouldn't expect a lot of updates to be coming through. This is something that I'm hearing may drag out for quite some time, could take a year or two. And I know there are some, there's some levers that get pulled really quickly over the, they either have started that process in terms of how NASCAR's got to make their position
Starting point is 00:50:48 known and they're going to be they're going to have to give up some records very soon about their books and we're already reading into some of the information that has been made available on 2311 and front row in terms of their finances and so that stuff's going to become more and more public over the short short period of time and that's interesting I think that's think, you know, my, I feel like that it is perfectly great and okay and fair for the teams to file the suit. If they feel like that they deserve more or don't, or if, you know, it may not be just about more money per charter, right? If they feel, you know, I believe that, you know, 2311 wants to own those charters outright, right? And if they feel like that that, that's, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:48 fair and what they deserve, they should and rightly file suit to get it. I do not like how NASCAR's been characterized, or Jim France has kind of been characterized in some of the comments that I've read. But so I hate to see, that's unfortunate, right, to see NASCAR be talked about in a negative way. Because, listen, I'll criticize them all day long. have, you know, been very critical about them on our show here, and I will criticize them going forward when I feel like I don't agree with a call or a decision they're making in the sport. But it's kind of like you're, that's my family, right?
Starting point is 00:52:36 They are my, they have, they have been everything that I've known, that garage, that industry, everyone in it. They're, they're, it's very close to me and a lot of people in the industry. A lot of retired drivers, mechanics. And so we can criticize it and go, ah, that's BS. They shouldn't do that. But when someone else comes in the room and says anything negative, you're like, whoa, you better watch it.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Stay away from my buddy. Yeah, hey now, you know. And so that's kind of the feeling that I get a bit about this. but, you know, it's, I, of course, everyone said this. It will be interesting how it plays out. I think that everyone will, it's going to cost everybody just a little bit to get through it. But I think NASCAR absolutely survives it. And I feel like, to be quite honest with you, 2311, will come out of it satisfied as well.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I don't know what that looks like, but I don't believe that there'll be. be any big, big winners, but I don't think anybody will have, you know, suffer any major losses in this either. I think it'll, it'll have to, you know, it'll have to sort itself out and the right decisions and just, you know, right results will be given. The, you know, it is unfortunate, though, but yeah, we'll just have to, it's going to be something that we're all going to be paying attention to and commenting on and talking about for a, long time. We'd love this to get done and get wrapped up and be out of our lives tomorrow, but it's probably not the case. And so that's kind of where I'm at. I don't like the,
Starting point is 00:54:32 you know, the reputation or the image of NASCAR to be stained or unnecessarily drag through a mud, but I do feel like that it's fair and right for any of the teams to argue for what they believe they deserve. And so, and I think that, that can happen without this getting ugly, right, without this getting too personal. And I already feel, you know, like it may be, it's kind of already walking that line in a sense. But, I mean, otherwise, any reaction? I think a lot of people want people to pick sides. You know, like, it's like, oh, I'm on the team side or I'm on NASCAR side. And I think the real answer here, the real win is is in the middle.
Starting point is 00:55:22 Like, you want, you want the teams to be happy and you want NASCAR to be happy. You want something to work out between the two of them. I don't think that a win is 2311 getting this landslide victory in a lawsuit. I don't think a win is NASCAR completely monopolizing to use quotes that have been used in the media, the teams. So I think that if you really care about this, you should be hoping for some sort of mitigation that brings people together. You know, we were on pit road right after the race and standing right off outside of Tyler
Starting point is 00:55:54 Redick's car. And Michael Jordan comes up and is so happy for Tyler and with Denny. And so, like, you want to see him be happy. You want to see those moments as much as you possibly can in this sport. And so, you know, for anyone to think, like, oh, I hope NASCAR takes this and, and and is super, you know, aggressive about taking the charters or whatever it is. Like, I just don't think that's a win, and I don't think that going after Jim France is a win either. Yeah. I think that the answer is somewhere in the middle.
Starting point is 00:56:21 Yeah, Jim's an amazing guy. I've known him. I've known him most of my life. And his, his Bill Sr., you know, started NASCAR, created it. It's his dream, his vision. everything that is in this room all of our lives as we know it are affected by what that man created and the vision that he had and his son bill junior came in and did an incredible job and did an incredible job maintaining the integrity of the sport and and moving the sport forward. Imagine, you know, leadership is so critical, right? And I don't know, Bill Frant Sr.
Starting point is 00:57:24 must have been an insanely good leader. And he had a son that he raised that was equally as talented and, you know, had the knowledge, the ability, the charisma, and all those things to continue that on. Usually, look, I'm a junior. Usually the juniors, not as good as the senior. You know, that's a, that's a, I'm, I'm being honest here, you know. You get, you know, the, the, the, the, the sun, you know, I'm getting in the weeds, but the sun rarely has all the same marks and abilities and, and even, in a special, even if he does, he, he, it's,
Starting point is 00:58:09 hard for him to gain that respect from all the people in the room because he's the son. He's not earned that opportunity. But Bill Jr. come in there and took over and continued to push a sport forward and had some incredible, incredible gains that overshadowed a lot of things his own dad did. And of course, you know, we faltered and the shit at the fan when Brian got, you know, got in trouble. but we were so lucky that Jim was there. Jim's over here running the EMSA stuff, happy as shit. He's doing his own thing.
Starting point is 00:58:44 He loves sports car racing. He's got that under control. He's helping that grow. NASCAR's taking over ownership of that and control of that. And Jim's loving that and has no, there's nothing. He doesn't need to be running the NASCAR, you know, the machine that the NASCAR side of it is. But due to the circumstances,
Starting point is 00:59:12 he was kind of asked to come in and take that over. And man, it was a good thing that we, he was there. It was a good thing that they had him in the roster to put into the starting lineup. I don't know who they would have put in there otherwise that would have been able to help us continue to move forward. And Jim,
Starting point is 00:59:34 he's a kind man. he's easy to talk to approachable he does have a lot of the same characteristics in terms of how he thinks this business should run that his dad and his brother had and but he but he's a bit softer bill junior and i don't know bill senior that never was around him but bill junior man he was rigid very by the book and hey this is what we're happening today you can you can play along or head on out the gate. You know, Jim wants to maintain what he believes the vision and integrity of the sport is and always has been. And I can understand why he's fighting for that, right?
Starting point is 01:00:23 And trying to try not to let things move in a direction too quickly. But a lot has happened. I mean, when the charters came in, that was not a long time ago in terms of the grand scope of things time-wise of sport. And a ton of has happened in those in the few years that the charters have came into existence. And there, a charter didn't exist. And then one day you were given a charter, a non-tangible thing that is now something you can sell for millions of dollars. And so, I mean, there's been really good progress there. And so, you know, I think, I think Jim's a good guy. And I think he's, he's got good intentions.
Starting point is 01:01:05 And so I hope that, you know, again, I want the teams to get what they deserve. I want them to be successful financially. But I just hope that they don't cannibalize, you know, the teams, this us versus them, this one, you know, pick one side, who side. I don't love that divide that it seems to have created for the time being. And we got to, you know, when this is all settled, hopefully everybody can, dust their cells off and we can move forward as an industry in a good direction that's successful for everybody. And I think it can happen. Hey NFL fans, you can start the season with a big return
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Starting point is 01:02:25 See terms at sportsbook.fandul.com gambling problem. Call 877717185543 or visit more than a game.nc.nc.gov. All right, we're going to move to the Xfinity series. This is, as we do say, we do criticize NASCAR at times here, and this is a time to do that. Look, I'm happy. I ain't going to be a lot of nobody. Sam won the race.
Starting point is 01:02:51 I'm thrilled with that. I thought he made a hell of a pass in turn seven on Parker. I like Parker. Parker's a good damn dude. I worked with him at NBC and got to know him. well. He's a hell of a race car driver. And as with, you know, I have cars that race in the Xfinity series, and he is not immune to pissing me off because we race against him. But I still think he's a great dude. And he's really damn good at what he does for TV and creating content.
Starting point is 01:03:32 And there's a bunch of people that want to see him win. I think that the Have you guys had him on the on reloaded? Yes. We did a little while ago. A handful of months ago.
Starting point is 01:03:49 Yeah. So I would love for you guys to get him on reloaded and tell us why he has decided to walk away from full-time racing. He worked his tail off to just a few years ago get the opportunity to run full-time, which is in this 48 car.
Starting point is 01:04:07 Great opportunity, good race car, and the success he had in the truck presented that opportunity, right? And he's run good in the 48, and they're going to move in a different direction with a different driver. What are the opportunities out there for Parker? What are some of the full-time opportunities
Starting point is 01:04:26 that might have been presented to him? What are some of the part-time opportunities that might be presented to him? him. What does his future behind the wheel of a race car look like? I'm so curious about that because I know he worked hard
Starting point is 01:04:42 to get in this position and now he is seemingly downsizing, right? He's like that guy that turns 40 and says, yeah, I'm going to sell this house. I don't need all this house. But it certainly can't be that simple.
Starting point is 01:04:58 So he's made this decision and said everybody, I'm going to move away from full-time racing. And if you weren't already pulling for the guy to get that one win, now everybody's like seeing the clock running the sands and the hourglass running out. And they're going, come on. And here he is with his, here he is. He's winning this race. He is winning it. He's driving his, he was driving his day off. And he's winning the race. And in a spot to advance him to the next round too. Yeah. Yeah. So he's winning this race. And there's this car get stuck in the tires
Starting point is 01:05:32 badly. Like as bad as I've seen a car get stuck in the tire. Yeah, you couldn't even see it. Yeah. Well, let's not go to that far, TJ. You're going to ruin the argument. Don't say that, man.
Starting point is 01:05:44 Are you arguing for a NASCAR here? You could not see it? No, I mean, there was definitely a corner there when the barriers are five feet higher, but yes. I'm giving you a hard time. So, dude, this just sucks. It did. Listen, I'm being ripped into
Starting point is 01:06:00 because I'm thrilled that Sam won the race. Yeah. Of course. Thrilled. I mean, this was the perfect, perfect outcome for me. Oh, my God, yeah. I get both cars through. And at one point, it looked like I might get no cars through, but, you know, the 8th's in.
Starting point is 01:06:16 But so at the end of the day, I'm like, hell, yeah, I got three cars. But look, what's even more important to me than any of that is integrity of the sport. And it is hard, hard. to see that happen to Parker or any driver. You're a foot from the white flag, which would, if the caution comes out after you cross it, would determine the race is over. You're the winner.
Starting point is 01:06:45 And the caution light comes on. And you have spent the entire day busting your ass to put yourself in this position and this silly chain of events is going to take it away. you know, it's like somebody walked up onto your doorstep, you answered the door, and they're handing you over a damn check for millions of dollars, and right as you reach, they snatch it back and walk out. You know, it just sucks for Parker because, you know,
Starting point is 01:07:17 he has absolutely worked hard enough and run well enough to deserve to know what it feels like to stand in that victory lane and celebrate. And I fear that he won't get that chance, at least not this year, not sure what he's got going forward or what he may do going forward and if he can get himself in winning equipment. But he certainly is a, if we were in dire straits and needed someone to drive a race car and he's sitting on the sidelines, I'm calling that guy. Parker, I got a car, no driver, and I need somebody behind the steering wheel this weekend. He would do, he would, he would do the job. And I don't know, man.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I just, we have seen, I think, we've seen over the last, I don't know, I mean, over the course of this year, some very tough things happen in race control. Oh, yeah. That are frustrating. Right. And I think that I'm hoping that this offseason NASCAR tries to get every. everybody in the room and say, hey, man, let's, let's, uh, let's go through a process to find out how we can eliminate some of these issues. And everybody, let's have a conversation. Let's go,
Starting point is 01:08:42 let's all get together and try to avoid that thing happening again. And, you know, every other instance where there was a very frustrating call. And now look, you know, I don't want to be them. I don't envy NASCAR. I don't, I don't want to do race control. I don't want to be up there doing that. It's not a job that people are lining up to get. No. But, man, I honestly feel like
Starting point is 01:09:09 I don't know enough about this. I'm not educated enough about this. I don't know so you have, you know, so the truck series, Xfinity series, and Cup series three series. I could not tell you who the
Starting point is 01:09:30 race director is by name for any of them. I know Elton Sawyer a few other people up in the room, Chad Little. These are all great people. There's not anybody in that building or in that room that I don't think deserves to be there or doesn't belong there. But I just don't know who does what and when. And when they don't do it. You know, right? You've got three series and it sounds like there's a revolving door of race directors or the people that are making those particular calls, right, to put the caution out. Yeah, we got three or four race directors.
Starting point is 01:10:08 God, man, we got to, we got to whittle it down. We got to wheel it down and get some consistency. And, again, I apologize because I truly wish I knew more about all the individuals that are involved in each three series but I always felt like that for broadcasting you need one booth that does trucks
Starting point is 01:10:36 they live trucks they know everything about those drivers right and you got one booth for Xfinity that live Xfinity and they know everything about those drivers I'm a watching Xfinity race and that guy knows every freaking thing about them
Starting point is 01:10:51 the play of play he knows these people he lives it. He doesn't do trucks. He doesn't do cup. And so in the cup booth, you would have obviously just guys that do only the cup races. I feel the same way about the officiating and the race control
Starting point is 01:11:07 itself. They got to get a bit of a handle on it to where there's just more consistency and a higher standard and a better, a higher expectation from us, from fans of the consistency that we're looking for. But it's
Starting point is 01:11:23 It's been a rough patch, and I'm hoping this all season maybe they can smooth it out. Yeah. Am I on an island here? No. Yeah. No, you were 100%. And I think the heartbreaker here is that that should have been a caution. Like NASCAR was ultimately correct.
Starting point is 01:11:46 It was just how long it took to make the call. If Parker could have not gotten to that finish line, quick. Right. No, but like if they called it as soon as we saw it on TV, then all right, you know what? It's a legitimate caution. So yeah. But I mean, even so this is playing over the radio like telling Parker get to the get to the white, just take the white, take the white. So like, at least would it have been worse if they threw it right after he crosses the line. I think that's the problem. You wait so long and you paint yourself in a bad spot no matter. Well, it's a lose lose situation, right? Because if if you wait until right before,
Starting point is 01:12:23 than all the Park and Klickerman fans are upset. I mean, I get the timing's bad on it, but the right call was made. The caution came out way before he was the line, so it should have been a caution before that point anyway. So I think this, so I talked about the consistency in the booth. In this particular instance,
Starting point is 01:12:42 it feels like that there needs to be more bodies on the ground, more eyes on the track, more, you know, they have, you know, that we traditionally are an Oval series, right? And this, it's easier to have a certain amount of eyes watching everything about what's going on at, let's say, Vegas or Homestead or Martinsville. Yeah. When you go to the Roval, there's a lot of hidden spots.
Starting point is 01:13:12 There's a lot of blind corners. And you would need to add, you know, inventory or more bodies on the ground watching, just literally just watching for those type of incidents and there was one there was one particular piece of debris in turn two it looked like a little ring I think this was on the Xfinity race
Starting point is 01:13:35 of the Cuprette I think it was the Xfinity race yeah I mean there's a little ring it's like three inches or two and a half inches in diameter or it's about one inch tall it kind of blends right into the they see that they see that right there so there's somebody that's able to look at that that's not there's
Starting point is 01:13:51 nobody at the booths looking at that debris. I don't think. There ain't no damn way. Cameras pick up everything, but the only problem of the camera is they don't, they can't speak. The camera, look, I mean, that's a, we have to be careful about how we, we have to be careful to be even implementing
Starting point is 01:14:12 any of the cameras or the video. Look, you can use the, the video and the production feed. And all, so, let me just say this. So if NASCAR wants, and they probably do, they have a feed in the booth
Starting point is 01:14:32 of every single camera that the race broadcast is using. And they can see all of those, I would assume. And so I can sit in the booth as a broadcaster and I have
Starting point is 01:14:48 a screen in front of me with a bank of buttons and I can mash a button and change that screen to any camera on the facility. If I want to see turn two, I can hit a button and I'm looking at turn two, whatever the cameraman in turn two is looking at.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Race control has that same ability, but the broadcast and the cameras should only, and at all times and forever forward just be a compliment to what they're doing. they've got to lean and prioritize humans and people and bodies on the ground and eyeballs looking in every direction, right?
Starting point is 01:15:29 And so we have, you know, we've went down, if you look on pit road 20 years ago, they had an official in every other box. They had multiple officials up and down pit road. Yeah. Now they've taken a lot of officials off pit road because they have that automated system and they've got people in this truck that watch it like a replay booth, you know, like a replay booth going, okay, the system says this car made a mistake. So let's watch that video. Yep, there it is.
Starting point is 01:15:55 And so that is nice. I'm good with that. But we can't replicate that on the racetrack. We have to have the bodies out there looking and being able to see these things and immediately calling it to the tower. And so at Oval racetracks, you can get away with just a handful of individuals, maybe one in each corner. But at this Roval, apparently, they need somebody in that area.
Starting point is 01:16:17 It's as simple as that And so At the Ovales they do have Like that's we I go by them a lot Because they speak on the NASCAR channel You see these spotters Well they I hear them
Starting point is 01:16:31 Yeah Because they call out the wrecks They only say all they say is like two And you know like when I hear somebody say too You look and turn to I automatically look right away And I see at the same time as they probably see But there's eyes
Starting point is 01:16:45 In every corner and they're quick man like those people are quick and it helps us spot wrecks as well when we're not looking in that direction so i do think where naskar is stationed where the tower is and where this wreck happened is a blind spot for like us i mean i couldn't see it either so and it's that little section three to four right there it'd be hard to hide a race car especially under a bunch of tires so i mean it's definitely a I can see why it would take a little bit of time, but, I mean, to me, when somebody needs to be watching that camera, I don't think those cameras that they have are all manned at all.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Like, you know, they're just stationary cameras, but... And they have a lot more cameras than even TV has, too. I would caution y'all to not be leaning on cameras or video. Oh, for sure, you know. You got to have eyeballs on the... Yeah, I want to hear it. I want to hear three, you got a person standing there. There's a walkover gate that they drive under.
Starting point is 01:17:46 stand, put somebody on that that watches turn three and four. Yeah, there should be a human eyes on every corner. Yeah. Well, you know, I hate to give them a hard time, but, you know, NASCAR has, you know, they operated up until 1980 without cameras, without video feed. That's the first line of defense is humans, the eyeballs on the ground, and the race that we're watching at home is a complimentary to the race control. It helps, right?
Starting point is 01:18:22 It certainly can be an assist, but certainly shouldn't be the first thing that, and I'm not saying that's what NASCAR is doing. But I think a lot of us watch it and go, well, the TV saw it. Let's not have NASCAR looking at TV. You know, let's have real people standing there going, there's a car, I see it, you know.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Their corner spotters are really good. They are. They're really really big. Just need more of them the other day. All right. Well, I believe that we have covered all of the racing. I think so. Nicely done.
Starting point is 01:18:54 Thank you. Turn 50. This year, been traveling. And we've recently spent a little bit of time, Montana. I've never been there before. I've always wanted to go to all. I want to go to all 50 states in my life. So I don't technically have a running list,
Starting point is 01:19:19 but I do know that I've never been to Montana, and I do know that I've never been to Alaska. I really want to go to Alaska. But Montana was great. Spent a little bit of time in South Carolina and enjoyed that. I had my birthday. It was awesome. We didn't do really nothing.
Starting point is 01:19:41 I've asked Amy not to, I didn't want a party. All my friends are texting me going, man, if you don't want me to come to your party, just tell me. I'm like, there's no party. They're like, yeah, sure. Just tell me if you don't want me to come, man. You don't have to be like this. And I'm like, no, man, there's really not a party.
Starting point is 01:19:57 I thought you were better than that day. And then after my birthday, so where did y'all party? I'm like, there wasn't a party. They just can't believe it. There wasn't a party, but you still had a good night. I did. I had fun. And, TJ, you know that?
Starting point is 01:20:10 Why? Because I was texting you? Yeah, you were texting. You were very talkative around midnight. Yeah. So that's a sign. Oh, it's a sign. Yeah. So we, Nicole turned four two days after my birthday,
Starting point is 01:20:28 which is the reason that I brought you guys like 10 pounds of candy this morning. We thank you for that, too. Yeah. And so, yeah, a lot's been going on. obviously we have been watching and seeing all of the things going on with Hurricane Helene and all of the support that's been happening through that. We've been motivated and inspired to do different things, which we've done at Junior Murder Sports.
Starting point is 01:20:58 One in particular, this happened over the last couple of days. and let me see if I can get this right. I've been on the text chain watching this come together and it's really been cool. But Junior Merge Sports, Brandt, and Jared, there's a tour of our partners,
Starting point is 01:21:20 and MPH United, they've come together to have six truckloads of intermediate bulk containers. Those are big giant plastic totes that are in those cages. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Huge white. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:33 containers delivered to Western North Carolina to help with basic sanitation. There's a lot of people that don't have water and they're going to, you know, to whatever water source they have, they can't flesh their toilets. They're having to dump, physically dump their toilets or take, you know, they're not even using their toilets, right? And so there's a lot of people that are in a very tight spot with sanitation and that, if not handled correctly, can get absolutely out of control in terms of illness and so forth. Together with flush AVL, these totes will be used to provide water for toilet flushing. Each tote is capable of holding 275 gallons of water, slowing the spread of infections,
Starting point is 01:22:17 infectious viruses for up to 360 homeschools and nursing homes. So this came together through a text message of some friends that we have at NBC. that I worked with over the years, reaching out going, we need toots. Do you all have any idea where we can find this specific kind of tote? And Kelly reached out to Brandt because they used those kind of tots. We found a big giant batch of them brand new that Brandt was looking for an opportunity to help. So they jumped right to it.
Starting point is 01:22:54 Jarrett has been helping us in terms of transportation. and so forth. So just cool to see that kind of thing come together. Here's how people can help support. Visit flushavl.com. That's flush, f-l-u-s-h-A-V-L-com for more information or to volunteer as the need continues to grow.
Starting point is 01:23:16 Maybe you know where you can access some of these totes and have them sent for people to be able to have some usable water. You can also go to Samaritans, purse.org to donate to Samaritans Purse and people doing some great work out there in western North Carolina. Also, the cars tour this past weekend. Yeah. We thought about not racing at Tri-County, considering that a lot of people that would be accessing that race coming to see us. We're in Western North Carolina in some of the affected areas, but the track was adamant that they wanted to have the race. Some of the track owners are in some of these areas that have been
Starting point is 01:23:57 affected. And so, Tri-County and the Cars Tour had their event this past weekend. There was a donation collected. It was organized by the Cars Tour at Junior Motorsports where fans dropped off items such as non-perishable foods, bottled water, and other supplies. They filled up an entire 18-wheeler. Yeah, and like the entire downstairs break room was filled with this stuff. It was unbelievable. Yeah. Shane and Chad Higgins, the promoters at Tri-County Speedway, have taken the lead on humanitarian efforts to help those in their community with members of the cars tour. They deliver food and water on side by sides to those who were trapped. Biffle, Greg Biffle, we all know and see what he's been able to do.
Starting point is 01:24:35 He came out and gave the command to start your engines and was able to spend the evening with a lot of people from Western North Carolina that came to the race. He's been a hero, man. No kidding. We dropped grandstand tickets from 20 bucks to five and filled the grandstands. And a lot of people there were people that had lost a lot. in this. They upgraded random fans
Starting point is 01:24:58 to a suite so they could eat a home-cooked meal prepared by the Cars Tour. And so there was a monetary donation collected. There was the truck that it was out at the racetrack to collect goods as well. And so all of that stuff, they filled multiple
Starting point is 01:25:14 trailers including a 53-foot trailer. The Cars Tour employees, we literally have three. They are going to take all of this out to Western North Carolina and disperse it themselves with some help with the individuals that are already there. Some of the drivers, maybe some of the team members as well from the tour are going to go help. So just awesome to see the tour take the initiative to do something. And it was pretty incredible. Like all last
Starting point is 01:25:38 week, I feel like every time I walked out or was leaving, there was someone coming with like a truckload of water, like a truckload of food. And it's just fans, just people being like, take it. Like I bought it. I had it. Just whatever. So thank you to all the fans that have come by and help out. Don't stop. And we'll keep keeping the people. Western North Carolina on our minds for sure. One of the other things that we did, we were talking about my year and something that I did recently that I kind of wanted to share with you guys. Big Cedar Lodge, you guys know what that is?
Starting point is 01:26:10 South Missouri, right? Yeah. Johnny Morris. Yeah. So Johnny Morris, Bass Pro Shops, they have a theme park, if you will. That's really not even a great way to describe it. It's kind of like a community. and it's called Big Cedar Lodge and it's out Missouri.
Starting point is 01:26:28 It is, I'd heard about it, Kelly and L.W. and Wyatt and their family has been going out there a few times. It's been around way longer than I thought. I thought it was this thing that got recently built, but they've been around for over two decades. And so Kelly asked Amy if our two families could get together. this would be a trip for our two families that we we don't we rarely go together to do things and and so Kelly brought her two girls Kennedy and Carson who are much older but to have them kind of around my two girls is so much fun to see them get along and play Wyatt is an awesome awesome cousin nephew so to to spend time with them was was going to be great perfect place for us to
Starting point is 01:27:21 go. So we went to Big Souter Lodge. They have, as soon as we got there, they had this golf cart that anyone can get one of these, and you go on like this kind of a three-mile trail ride. And you kind of go kind of slow. It takes a while to get through it. That was a lot of fun. Some amazing
Starting point is 01:27:39 waterfalls and opportunities to stop and take some pictures and going through some caves and so forth. There's even a cave where they have a beer in a bar. Like you drive, you ride, You're driving a golf cart through this cave. Water's pouring in on the sides and stuff, and there's some cool, you know, pools and stuff inside the cave.
Starting point is 01:28:01 And then there's this lady, like a beer cart. All right. And so that was fun. They have this giant, giant building where we spend a lot of time with the kids, bowling, arcade, bumper cars, golf, go carts, food, all of those things. Lots of stuff for the kids to do. and it was perfect for our girls, a little rock wall and stuff for even a four-year-old Nicole could climb.
Starting point is 01:28:30 So that was great. So just sharing that we went out there. I'd never been. I wasn't sure what to expect. They had a corn maze, several restaurants. Even the shops were kind of cool because it's kind of geared toward both mail-in,
Starting point is 01:28:50 female, you know, you'd imagine some of the shops are kind of best pro-shoppy in a way, and they have some kind of fun, unique foods and things that you wouldn't ever, you know, kind of like a Trader Joe's, maybe might, you know, you go to Trader Joe's and buy some unique random things. But it was just really fun and easy. We had a great time, and they have some great little lodges and smaller cabins and stuff like that, and you can rent a pontoon. They had fishing in the morning for the kids.
Starting point is 01:29:19 We took Isla and Nicole. to this stock pond, and there were probably 40, 50 kids out there fishing. That's awesome. And so just awesome time, man. So if you ever get a chance to, you want kind of a different break, a couple nights, go go stay somewhere or take the family a couple nights. You want something just a little bit different than going to the, you know, traditional beach or mountain trip.
Starting point is 01:29:42 Big Souter Lodge was well worth it. I have a Bass Pro Shops Club card. Okay. So they're credit card. Right. I just got it. and probably this year. And dude, everything that we did there, I kept using that card.
Starting point is 01:29:56 And it kept sending me the e-mails saying, you've earned cash back. And so you can take that and spend it in a Bass Pro shop. Oh. Which I'm getting ready to go hunting in the first November. And so I am going to go buy some new hunting paints. All right. In the Bass Pro Shop.
Starting point is 01:30:17 That's pretty cool. And it's like they're going to be free. So because I had this cup card and I can spend money and, you know, everything I'm needing. You just spend the money and make money. Well, I had to buy some new glasses. I got a new prescription for my glasses. Contacts are coming. I'm going to try those.
Starting point is 01:30:31 I'll try those. I got to talk about that in a second. That's going to be jarring. Hold on. Yes. So I went, gosh, man, glasses are so expensive, but it's a necessity, right? So I'm like, here, use this card. I'm going to give me some free, you know, hunting pants.
Starting point is 01:30:45 So I got to get contacts. or I'm not, I don't got to get, I can wear the glasses. Amy doesn't like the glasses because she can't see my eyebrows. She likes some eyebrows, I guess. So, she says the eyebrows, she says my eyebrows say a lot about my disposition or my mood.
Starting point is 01:31:05 How you're feeling. Yeah, whether I'm happier and mad, right? And so I said, I'll try contacts. And I thought you just went and ordered them and they handed them to you and you take them home and you're just like, try to get them in there. but they have a there's a there's a there's a there's a class there so I went in to pick up my contacts and the lady says we're going to schedule you for your class and I'm like okay
Starting point is 01:31:30 I just don't just show them in there she's like no no she's like and I've she's the lady she's like I've done this a lot most of my life we're gonna you're gonna I'm gonna teach you how to do it you know once I feel comfortable that you can get them in and out you're good to go. But some people don't pass. Some people can't do it. Are you going to try and tank it? No, I want.
Starting point is 01:31:56 I want badly to have the contacts. Hopefully I can be a person that can put them in and then take them out without a big issue. But I'm not, I don't know. I'm not, I mean, do you all walk around? Can you touch your eyeball? I can't. I can.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I don't like to. I don't want to. And I'm worried about, you know, scratching my eyeball. So I'm not going to touch it. but I'm going to try to put these contacts in and see how it goes. She said she'll give me 40 minutes. If I ain't got it figured out in 40 minutes, I'm out. You failed.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Really? Yeah. Contacts aren't for me. Do you get a chance to try again or no? Like, that's it. I don't know. I'm a little nervous that I get to do that next week. Get to.
Starting point is 01:32:33 Yeah. I feel, I'm nervous in the same way I was nervous going to get my license for the first time. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. You're like, shit. I want my license. Yeah. Is this worse or?
Starting point is 01:32:46 better than Xfinity Qualifying. Oh, man, Qualifying's worse. Okay. Nothing's worse to qualify. Close second. Yeah. I don't even bring that up. Come on. It's Halloween.
Starting point is 01:32:59 It's scary. Yeah. That's what I'm going to dress up as Halloween. Xfinity qualifying and Scaredale. Oh, man. What day is that on? It's on a first day or something. When are you doing your contact class?
Starting point is 01:33:11 Because I'm going to text you on the way. You're nervous, man. Oh, I'll be fine. You need to text me after. Would be happy or sad. You won't be able to see my eyebrows, so you'll have to call me. I'm predicting a loss. Predicting a loss.
Starting point is 01:33:23 Yeah, what are the odds here? Yeah. I believe the odds are one in three that I get it right. All right. Really? So a 30% chance that I'll be wearing contacts. It's going to take you 15 minutes to figure it out. And then once you feel the click that the contacts in your eyes.
Starting point is 01:33:37 Click! You'll feel a little bit of like, oh, got it. And it's the best feeling ever. But you have to do that. Then you've got to get it out. Yeah, but you got to do it every morning and night. Getting out is a mental block. You just got to go.
Starting point is 01:33:46 Go for it. How do you get it out? You pinch it? Pinch. I have long eyelashes, so I have to really open my eye, but I don't, I've had contacts for 14 years. So is it, to put them in, is it pull the bottom down or the top up? Well, I pull my top up and get in there, get real wide.
Starting point is 01:34:08 He does both. I do both. But I have long eyelashes. So what the painful part is, if there's an eyelash cloth behind your eye. We heard you about. your eyelash. So my eyelashes are super long. I don't know if I said, I have long eyelashes.
Starting point is 01:34:21 Alex has long eyelashes. That's the name of the show. If they get stuck behind your contact, that's what's painful. That's the, that's your band name. Alex's long eyelashes. It's not bad. Geez, Rapunzel. Nine inch lashes.
Starting point is 01:34:36 Yeah. Nice difference. I gotcha. All right. Hey, this week's segment was brought to you about tire pros. There are a few people who love the cars as much as I do, but these tire and service experts equally love the drive. They offer a huge selection of brand name tires and full service repairs. That's oil changes, alignments, brakes, tire pros, they do it all.
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Starting point is 01:35:29 our Thursday night football group parlay. That's at 815 on Prime. The Broncos and the Saints. The Saints have Spencer Rattler as a quarterback, and so that makes things a little unique. Yes, it does. Yeah, and so let's go ahead and get everybody's leg on the parlay, starting with Tim's.
Starting point is 01:35:52 I have, I'm going to get Bo Nix, Broncos quarterback for 25 rushing yards. All right. Over? Yes. All right. Dalton. All right.
Starting point is 01:36:02 I'm going out on a limb here. I'm taking Alvin Camara anytime touchdown. TJ, you want in? Go ahead. I got locked out. I'm signing him in right now. Okay. I'm going with Spencer Radler under 0.5 touchdown.
Starting point is 01:36:21 Passing. Okay. So Rattler to not throw a touchdown. A touchdown. All right. We won our last one, by the way. We did. I mentioned that.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Oh, yeah. Our three-leg Broncos Falcons once you. We'll wait on T.J. I'm looking at it right now. All right. TJ, you're going to make a break this. I think we're going to win up to you, buddy. Don't ruin it.
Starting point is 01:36:45 We're going to rush him into a bad choice. Yeah, I'm struggling. Give me something to pick from, and I'll pick one. Well, let's pick from the Saints and Broncos. Thursday night football group poorly. What about like points or spread or something? Oh, man. Let me, give me it for.
Starting point is 01:37:02 Fandle's like doesn't have a lot of stuff. Oh, man, you were on. You were in. What the hell? Oh, here. Yeah, what if you did just money line? That's where you're at, right? Yeah, who you think wins the game, T.J.
Starting point is 01:37:16 Between. Money line. Saints and who is it? Saints and Broncos. Man, I'm going with the Broncos. They are favored. I am going to Broncos. I think Bo Nix.
Starting point is 01:37:28 He was looking pretty decent as fast. I think he makes some mistakes. He's running around like crazy man. He wins some games. Yeah, I think he wins games. Yeah, I mean, I like the Broncos. That's what we're going with. Let's do it.
Starting point is 01:37:40 It was Money Line. All right, that's the bet. Bo Nix, 25 over on rushing, Kamara, anytime touchdown on rushing, or just any time touchdown. Anytime. And then Rattler, no passing TD, and the Money Line Broncos.
Starting point is 01:37:52 We'll see how that works. So Tampa Timms, how did you do at the Roble? He did pretty well, actually. We had a fun little bet where we had Bet Austin Dillon top 10, and then he bet his finishing position over 13 and a half. So we only had three spots where we could lose and he finished he finished back there, two laps down. So we were good there.
Starting point is 01:38:11 Lost a wheel. Yeah, lost a wheel. So that helped us out. Bet Bubba Wallace top 10. He was good all day. And then the one bad beat I had was I had Alex Bowman over Daniel Suarez and the book I placed it on did not cash me out after the race. So he got the cueed and I lost the bet.
Starting point is 01:38:29 Damn. Yeah. So that was a bad beat. All right, man. We're going into Vegas. What's the picks? Well, I think I've been really high on Christopher Bell, the whole playoffs. I think this is the race where we see him march towards that championship.
Starting point is 01:38:44 All right. This is punch your ticket. I think it's Larson or Bell. It's a very square type of pick, but the final four races, you got to, this is. clean it up shine. Yeah. Right on, man. Well, we will learn more about the rest of the bets you guys are ready to make
Starting point is 01:38:59 or proposing some people try out this weekend in Vegas. Dirty Modeau out every Thursday as the team will preview the upcoming race as we close in on the finish of the NASCAR season. All right, as I mentioned earlier in the show, the car store had a great, great event at Tri-County. Let's get the recap. The second to last stop on the 2004 Z-Max Car. Mars Tour season presented by Sound Gear would bring the series to Granite Falls, North Carolina,
Starting point is 01:39:26 and the Tri-County Speedway, a venue that is known for hosting some incredibly competitive and intense races. The Speedway is located about an hour east of Asheville, North Carolina, a town that has been considered to be at the epicenter of what were devastating effects from Hurricane Helene. Thanks to a large collaborative effort between the series, Speedway, and several other partners and parties, the plan was for the race to go on as scheduled, but with a massive emphasis being placed on helping those in need. The late model stock championship was as tight as it could be coming into the race, with Connor Hall holding just a single point advantage over Brendan Queen,
Starting point is 01:40:00 heading into a track where Butterbean had won the last two races held at the Speedway. The weekend got off to a hot start for Hime as he captured his third career Thunder Road Harley-Davidson Pol Award, with Queen lining up fourth, and Connor Hall back in 16th. While the fans piled in, they collectively packed a 53-foot trailer with donations, and former NASCAR star and local hurricane response hero Greg Biffle officially got the party started by sharing the most famous words in motorsports along with his family. That decision by Hine to start on the outside lane thought it was going to pay off for him immediately.
Starting point is 01:40:34 He was seen the 55 bottom out a little bit. Hine would dominate most of the race while Connor Hall and his team struggled to work their way up from the middle of the pack. But about a third of the race to go, Hall found himself in the wrong place at the wrong time. We're talking about Connor. All trouble. Big crash. The Connor Hall is in it.
Starting point is 01:40:56 The championship points leader is in the wreck in turn three. Parker Eatman, Dylan Ward involved as well. The team would thrash to keep Hall in the mix, with heavy attrition still being a possibility in the later laps. Tyrell appeared well on his way to his first one of the season until a late yellow would slow the field with just two laps to go. While circulating under caution, Tyrell would run out of gas, sparking a rash of fuel issues for many other competitors. As the teams were now all collectively holding their breath trying to make it to the end, The final restart of the night would see Connor Jones and Brendan Queen line up door to door with former champion Jared Fryer in the mix as they try to settle it amongst themselves.
Starting point is 01:41:34 Here they come to the line, two laps to go. Fryer, I don't think we've mentioned him at all up front, even in the top five, now having a shot to win. He clears Butterbean, now trying to run the middle of the racetrack, Jones up high. Friar really going to be the only factor here for Connor Jones as they take the white flag. White flag in the air, I think Queen trying to run the bottom to save as much fuel as possible, but Connor Jones looking for his second career. Z-Max Cars Tour victory through three and four, and it's going to happen. Connor Jones returns to cookout victory lane. Probably one of the most special wins I've had. You know, I lost my grandma earlier this year to cancer, and that's why
Starting point is 01:42:12 we're running breast cancer awareness stuff, and honestly darned lost his dad a couple weeks ago. So it's been an emotional couple weeks, so this win means more than anything to us. Jared Fryer took home second with Brendan Queen third and now on a fifth. taking over the championship points lead. Landon S. Huffman had a great night and fourth, and Chase Burrow rounded out the top five, while Conor Hall defiantly worked his way back to 13th amidst the chaos. On the pro-late model side, Caden Honeycutt did exactly what he needed to do in order to remain a contention for a title come the season finale next week. After Malle Pohl Award winner Tristan McKee was penalized for jumping what would be the final restart,
Starting point is 01:42:51 Honeycutt was credited with his second win of 2024. and his first with the Bryson Lopez team. No, but I know I want it. It's honestly, thanks to these guys. BLR Racing, Dustin, Bryson, Ernie Lopez, for the opportunity to even run their car, man. I can't think of a family that's done so much for me to finish out of season. We've been here for quite a while.
Starting point is 01:43:13 We just worked so hard this week to, you know, cut into this championship. We want to win it. Ashton Higgins in what was the feel-good story of the night, being handed the keys to Connor Jones' Racing's number 44 pro-late model after all that he and his family had endured over the last few weeks, brought it home in second with Cade and Cuapo 3rd, and Spencer Davis on officially keeping the points lead
Starting point is 01:43:33 thanks to a fourth place effort and Jimmy Renfrew Jr. rounding out your top five. Both championship battles are set to be decided at North Wilkesboro Speedway and what is a jam-packed weekend at the facility. The late model stocks and the pro-late models will qualify on Friday, October 18th, prior to race day, Saturday, October 19th, for a full weekend schedule or pathway to purchase tickets, visit Cars Racing Tour.com. If you can't join us at the track,
Starting point is 01:43:59 be sure to lock it in on the Flow Racing all weekend long as we'll be covering you across the board from the historic facility. For the ZMAX Cars Tour, I'm Eric Brennan. All right, it's time for the white flag. Dropping after the race this past Sunday to tear down with Jeff Gluck and Jormionki and actions detrimental with Denny Hamlin.
Starting point is 01:44:24 He was in the booth and working that show just moments after he learned that the 48 car was DQed. I love the, uh, the commitment there, Denny Hamlin. Good job. Good job getting that show done and getting it out there. We appreciate it. Yeah, we do. Dropping yesterday, door bumper clear, the spotters. T.J., you'll have a good show? I wouldn't know. I didn't go to that one. Damn, dude, where were you? Preparing for this. Oh, they had Lee Diffy and Bob Popper's. Yeah, Bob was on. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:44:53 Dropping tomorrow's Speed Street and Connor Daly and Chase Holden and the guest show with Luke Keeckley. That's going to be a lot of fun. And Thursday, DJD Reloaded with Asch Jr. and Moore. And Dirty Mo Doe with the best bets for the upcoming weekend. Thanks again to Kenny Wallace for filling in last week. We got the question of the week from Ty Gibbs. How often does he use his little village that he has in the back? Where is that?
Starting point is 01:45:17 Oh, the graveyard? Yeah. Oh, the western town. The western town. I wonder how often he uses that. Okay. Oh, the western town. What he called it the village?
Starting point is 01:45:25 The village. Hey, all right. We built it out. It's a village. We used it a lot. Man, back in the day when I built that around 2006, we used it basically just for parties, which we did.
Starting point is 01:45:41 We'd have parties Tuesdays or Wednesdays most weeks. And then we do New Year's parties down there sometimes. But now we use it for birthdays. A friend and the family just had their son's 10th birthday. there this week. We have sponsor events there. I think Hendrick Automotive groups using it today.
Starting point is 01:46:07 There's been a couple of other sponsor events down there, tire pros and some other people have used it in the past couple of weeks. So, it's used quite often. I like to go down there when it's empty, turn the stereo up, and just
Starting point is 01:46:23 sit and chill, right? And it's a lot of fun when the weather's good. You can open up the doors. and sit out on the porch and just, you know, there's a creek down there. It's really, really a great spot. So I kind of like to do that a couple times a year. We have our big, big, Dale Junior Foundation charity event there, driven to give. We've really put some money into it over the last couple of years to have it
Starting point is 01:46:49 where it's a bit better of an event space. And our partners and friends, Charlotte Merge Speedway, Marcus Smith, any of our partners in our ecosystem have access to it and can use it for any kind of a company event friends, family, birthdays, weddings, bands have used it for music videos. I mean, it's just, it's available, and I'm happy because the more it's used,
Starting point is 01:47:18 the more it's up to date and things are fixed and working, right? Yeah, sure. If you don't use it, you go down there and you want to use it and you don't know it's broke, and you don't know it's broke until you get down there and you're like, shit, I can't use it
Starting point is 01:47:29 because I can't, you know. So yeah, it's good. That's that. Thank you. Man, Ty Gilles, great question. Good question. It was good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:38 Dalton, you've got this week's social media standout. I do. This guy, Roddy Baker, on YouTube, donated us $2 and just said, thanks. All right.
Starting point is 01:47:48 That's it. Like the doorman at a hotel. He just was like, hey, thanks. Nice tip. Well, I appreciate that, man. That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 01:47:54 So if you have a five-star review, leave us one on Apple. We will read it. Yeah, we'll read it every Wednesday after the guest show. Yes. So, well, I will read the damn thing. Just write us a review. Give us a review. And tell us some damn details.
Starting point is 01:48:13 Give us some specifics. Right. All right. Make it cool. Make it get a good review. We appreciate the $2 and the thanks. Just the thank you. All right, that's the show.
Starting point is 01:48:21 Hopefully y'all enjoyed it. Tune in tomorrow. Luke Keekeley is here. and we'll see you. Check out Dirty Mo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.

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