The Dale Jr. Download - 591 - Martinsville: How Do You Fix This?

Episode Date: November 5, 2024

Martinsville sure gave us plenty to talk about. After a controversial finish at Martinsville, Dale Earnhardt Jr. and his wife Amy are in the studio to preview the NASCAR Championship weekend at Phoenix and give their thoughts on everything that went down during the final laps in the Cup race.NASCAR made the right call with Christopher BellRace manipulation is difficult to prove, is there a fix?Were Ross Chastain, Austin Dillon and Bubba Wallace playing defense?Race car manufacturers’ influence needs to be scrutinized How do you prevent race manipulation in the Playoffs format?Race winner Ryan Blaney calls inWho to bet on this weekend at Phoenix Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. We're back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download, and it is Tuesday, and we're just coming out of a hectic weekend in Martin Zill. A lot to cover. We got our winter calling in. Amy's here. It's a lot to do. Let's have some fun.

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The Dell Jr. Download starts now. One. All right, a quick shout out to Tire Pros, sponsoring Dirty Air this morning, afternoon, evening, whenever you're listening to this. There's a few people who love cars as much as I do, but these tire and service experts equally love to drive. Give your vehicle some TLC. Head over to Tire Pros. or you can go to tireprose.com to find that location near you. So a lot going on at the racetrack.

A lot going on in our lives. Where do we begin? All right. So let's just jump right into the NASCAR stuff and the cup race. I mean, tomorrow we have all four of the Xfinity series, final four drivers going for the championship. We have them here tomorrow on the guest segment. We're not going to do much Xfinity today because that's going to get covered well.

Yeah. And the guest, so let's jump into Sunday. NASCAR officials deemed Christopher Bell's move a safety violation. It was kind of similar to what Ross Chastain did in turn three and four a couple years ago. And I don't know. So Bell goes into the corner, gets a little bit loose underneath Bubble. Wallace, he chases it up into the wall. Once he hits the wall, he has two choices.

Turn back down the racetrack and drive off the bottom of the corner or throttle up and just finish the corner on the fence. And that's what he chose. Finishing the corner on the fence, it was really similar to what Ross Chastain did. I think NASCAR makes the right call here. It did take 27 minutes to make. I wonder what their conversation was around why, you know. They said they were looking just at Bell, just at the 20 in terms of this call.

It seems pretty simple of a call. It was too similar to what Ross did. If it's a rule, which they made this rule, love it, hate it, it's a rule. I feel like it was a pretty simple call to make. That's why you think they made the right call. I think they made the right call. I wonder why it took 27 minutes. I actually, people have been complaining about the time it took.

I actually have no problem with this. This is a big decision. It is. It is a big thing. I want them to make sure they're taking the right amount of time to evaluate everything. I guess it's like back to if it's a rule, it's a rule. Why it takes so long to make the call? But I think it was a stupid call.

Why? You don't agree with it. I just feel like I'm a NASCAR driver. Why would I not just give it everything I've got and cowboy through this? Yeah. I understand that it's a rule. Yeah. I understand that they're trying to like.

Yeah. Here's the problem. All right. And I don't think a lot of people think about this particular thing. there is a crossover gate off term four. All right. There is a, there is a imperfect area of the safer barrier and retaining wall that could be compromised if that goes the wrong way, right? Let's, it is a safety violation, right?

They're not trying to quell competition. Right. They're not trying to take a bow or an arrow out of the quiver here. I think that it is unique to Martin's view. and I think if the maybe if the gate wasn't there they may look at this a little

differently. They may be a little more they may consider not being so strict about it but I think since the crosshivers gate there they don't want a problem. It's a safety thing. I can understand that. And Ross did it and got out and said, I don't want to ever have to do that again. That hurt. It was

physically painful. It's you you would be risking a head injury a concussion. You could, you could, let's not, let's not sugarcoat this. And that's not overstating it. It's absolutely a risky situation physically. You're wrecking your car, basically, to make this move.

So I think it's, while it sucks that we have to have the rule, it's not a fun rule. I think it's absolutely probably necessary considering that there is a crossover gate over there. And if there wasn't a crossover gate, then I would maybe be more akin to say, all right, drivers, it's up to you. So if he does this in one and two, less of a problem? I don't have as much of a problem with it

because the crossover gate's not over there in one and two. And we've seen what happens to crossover gates when they're compromised. They're going to run directly into the end of a concrete barrier, which will not be good. Do you think he would have ever done that if he had not seen Chastain do it before? I don't know, probably not.

I don't know. I mean, it's a video game. It seems like a new thing happening. Especially now that they know it's illegal of a move. It was called a video game move when it happened the first time. It's absolutely in the back of their minds because of, you know, Ross Chastain. These are younger guys. Like, these, you know, the older guys that didn't play video games, didn't run on sim, didn't do all those things.

these guys are running on the Sim every week. They ride the wall. They know it's faster. They go into Sim. They know how to trick to Sim. I mean, it's in the back of their mind in some weird spot where it's always possible. You can't trust a driver to not do it.

And so, anyhow, good decision. Wondering why it took 27 minutes. I'm not, I don't care that it took 27 minutes. I'm just wondering, why was the conversation so long? Right? but you know NASCAR wanted to make sure they got it right

I assume Elton Sawyer said when you look at it today clearly up against the fence there were there in turn 3 and 4 rode the fence all the way around turn 4 there strictly it's to protect our drivers as well as our fans said it was a straightforward

decision. The other thing that is not straightforward I'm going to move on all right race manipulation all right and this is where it really gets ugly, ugly.

And it's Tuesday. If anything comes to this, it will be after this show. Yeah, we're taping Tuesday morning. Right. And so, that's the unfortunate part is we can't react to what I believe is going to happen. Which is... NASCAR is going to penalize.

NASCAR's going to punish. NASCAR, I will be shocked if NASCAR comes out this week and says, We didn't see anything or we're not going to make a call on that or that's that's strategy call. You know, that's a strategy that we're going to allow. Ross Chastain, Austin Dillon, running side by side.

William Byron's right in front of him. He is struggling. He's on old tires. Those two drivers driving Chevroletes, just like William Byron are sitting right behind him, both appeared to have the car to go around. Both appeared, especially Chastain. on the outside. They appeared to have enough race car to get by William Byron. There's a lot of chatter on the radio. Not just, not really direct, do not pass William Byron because it was not really

super direct, but it was enough information from spotters, from crew chiefs, or what have you, that you could speculate without a lot of work or effort that they were being told, it's probably best if you just leave that guy alone. And so, um, Dylan says, hey, does the one C.C. know the deal? Meaning you can assume that he's saying, hey, does the one know not to pass the 24? I'm sitting here doing what I think I'm supposed to be doing whatever. I feel like I've been told to do whatever. And I'm wondering, because the one's on my

outside now, and it looks like he's kind of getting up. There was one point where he almost got to the right rear quarter panel of the 24 and the 24 shaded low on the straightaway and you're like, is Ross going to pass him? Damn. And so, you know, Dylan's saying that. The one car is getting told nice and smart with the 24. 24 is one to the good. So that's the information that I think could doom them. Yeah, I agree.

Right? Bubba Wallace reports that he might have a flat tire. If I'm looking at the in-car footage of Bubba's car, the car looked like it was a handful. I mean, he's sliding in the corner chasing it up the, he's got, he's checked. I mean, he, if he's acting, doing a damn good job. he is also that third groove with all the rubber that was being laid down Denny said on his show is like ice is dirty so listen um you know i think

baba Bubba says god forbid if we don't effing help a JGR car sounds a bit like he's frustrated that he's being put in that position or expected to because that sounded like a Bubba saying to me like that didn't sound like it was a code word or like some sort of I feel like it's more like a reaction from Bubba going I really don't want to be asked to do these things. Right. Like he's just frustrated in the moment. It's not some sort of a bigger

picture thing. I got my own freaking problems here. He's getting constant updates on the 20s location. Constant. So you know those are the things that NASCAR is going to look at and they are being this is a question without social

media without all of the people putting all of this content on social media for all of us to consume because I've seen it, there is no question that anything and everything that was said is being absolutely scrutinized and picked apart on any social media platform. And I firmly believe that that absolutely puts pressure on NASCAR. NASCAR can say, or they might say, hey, we make decisions based on our own internal conversations and thoughts, but I have to believe that the court of public opinion absolutely

influences whether things might get looked at. Connor Jones, Rexette at homestead. They penalized him two laps or something, right, in the middle of race. I believe, if you didn't have social media, that would have been the end of that. I believe because of the uproar after the fact, NASCAR then reacted again saying,

oh, we're going to look into this. The pressure's certainly on them more than it ever has been. And so I believe that they will, not solely due to the social media conversation, but partly due to it, really dig into this. this, right? I go back and forth with this. Gosh, I had a friend of mine that watches racing. And... What are you going back and forth with? This yourself? Yeah. I go back forth on my...

It's definitely not with Andrew. Don't open your mouth, Andrew. Every time he opens his mouth, I stop because I think he's going to say something. Yeah, that's what the conversation looks like. Somebody else opens their mouth and says something. You take terms. That's right. Okay. All right. So, I had a friend of mine say that he liked the strategy. He didn't mind it. He's watching racing. He's not in the industry.

He's like, what do you think about blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I don't like the manufacturers. I don't like feeling like the manufacturers are dictating what I'm a watch. I want, you know, we went, I heard Mark Martin this week. He said, he said, man, I went to Talladega with Jeff Burton. And Jeff Burton would come up to me and say, don't go with me. Don't help me today. Don't help me.

I don't want you helping me unless it helps you. And so back when I race, that was the code of ethics on the racetrack at Talladega and Daytona. I didn't help you unless it helped me. And if I saw a teammate and I knew they needed my help but it was going to hurt me, I didn't help them. And I would go after the race and go, couldn't make that decision in that moment. I know it's upset you because you want me to be there. and be your wingman, but that would have hurt us, hurt me, not helping me, I'm not doing it.

That was the way we raced. I loved that explanation from Mark because I've tried forever to help my Hendrick teammates understand my mentality, because they were all about, we're going to help each other. And even if it hurts you, I expect you to get in there and help me.

And I'm like, I don't know, that's not how I'm going to win this race. That's how you're going to win this race. And so, you know, Mark really did a good job explaining and that's where all of this sort of we could probably say began was at Daytona Taleda where the manufacturers were getting

teams and drivers in rooms and saying hey man we really expect all y'all to know what you're driving and who you need to be helping. We're all going to pit together. We're going to do all these things that are going to give a Chevrolet or a Toyota or a Ford the best opportunity to win.

And I be I'll be honest, it ruined my enjoyment of restrictor plate racing at Daytona and Talladega. It was still interesting to watch, but it wasn't as good when I knew they were all individually out to get each other and win this race. And, you know, you had friends you like to draft with. I drafted with Tony Stewart all the time because I knew Tony was probably going to do what we both needed in the moment, right? And so that was fine, but, you know, for the most part, I was out there doing everything for myself.

And when that changed, the manufacturers came in and sort of influenced this sort of, we're all in this together and we all need to be, you know, don't help the other guys, help these guys. It really changed it for me. And so that's why I never loved tandem racing because some guys, you know, you have tandem racing, fans loved it. but the guy pushing was not going to win the race and he knew it and he was making a choice to run at best second place

what the freak is that you know that's not racing that's not what I don't want to get in a car and go I'm going to push this guy to the win that's that's my goal today and so that's where all this kind of began and the playoff system has put the drivers in a situation to where these are the new tactics and they're developing and evolving and they're more on display every

year as we go through these rounds and it's you know it's not specific or to martinsville but martinsville certainly is where we see a lot of that happen um and i am i was saying i'm torn like part of me sees it in you know you see some of these sort of team orders and different forms of motorsports, not a lot, but you see it in other forms. I don't, I think the majority of people don't like it. I don't like it. How do you, if you, okay, I don't love it, but how do you govern it? How do you stop it? Who do you penalize, do you penalize a manufacturer? Do you, Denny was saying they really care about the manufacturer points, so you hit them there.

Yeah, but let me ask you this. So, and that was going to be one of my questions. you. So how do you fix this? That's my question to you. Andrew, that's my question to you. Here's where I think then. I'll ask you a question. I'll ask you a question. And then we're going to go back and forth. Look at this. I'm like, God, stop it. This is awesome, Amy. How is this different than what happened 2013 at Richmond with Michael Walserbracing? And Denny said it's the cake. It's the same. It's just baked differently. Yeah. what he said on actions detrimental.

And if that's the case, it's not. It's different? Not different. It's not different. It's not different. Okay, I think I agree with you. So if that's the case, do we expect some crazy news to drop this week?

Are we going to see a different championship four? There are three drivers. No shot. I don't think necessarily putting Larson in solves the problem because you still get a Chevrolet. These are the things I've heard. I mean, Elton Sawyer came out and said that at the end of the day, it was entertainment. And that's what, like, they're not going to, they're not going to, going to do anything about it. You are crazy. No. No, penalty, yes. Penalty, yes. I'm saying they're not going to

change the four guys who are racing for a championship. Look, that's set in stone. I'm saying if you, the way you fix it, you got to hit him hard. All right, but Byron didn't do anything wrong. Look, nobody did Clim Boyer. Neither did Clint Boyer. Or sorry, sorry, neither did Martin, Cherx Jr. Yeah. Martin, did Martin, did get taken out. I forget all that went down. I think they added Gordon. I don't think he got taken out. He did get taken out and they added Gordon. I thought they added a 13th. That was a nine. That was a nine. That was a He did out of 13th. So who did,

I'm pretty sure they yanked Shirex. And then Newman gets in. Yeah. It was weird thing. So I just remember Michael Walter Racing, definitely lost in that situation. They did and they ended up going bankrupt. And so that's, so, that's the problem for me. This sport is so, the sport has gotten so big and so.

There's too many influences. Dude. You, you, you, you, Listen, this isn't fans, I hope the fans can understand where I'm coming from. If you're a fan and you're listening, you're, put yourself in the shoes of NASCAR, right? You want to make a decision. You want to quell this. You want to just, you want to try to avoid this getting out of hand or getting worse or happening again altogether, right?

you don't like the drivers doing those type of things on the racetrack. How do you deter it without giving a team the death penalty or souring a OEM manufacturer on the sport entirely? Yeah, because you don't want that. That could very well happen. So that's the problem. So like if I, I mean, if you go, after somebody really hard, you have to be careful that you don't, it's very delicate.

You have to be careful that you don't basically put them out of business or run them out of the sport. And, you know, maybe you're not, you know, I know this is probably not the entirely ethical way of doing it, but maybe you get everybody in a room and say, look, we've got to deter this. We've got to do something publicly. the optics of our reaction is really critical and important. We're choosing to do these things. And you guys are going to get penalized here. Y'all have to help us row this boat, right?

And go along, you know, accept this result, right? That seems ethical. Is it? Yeah. So, all right. So I think that's what, you know, you can, that's the best case scenario. how do you penalize or punish and manufacture?

That I've never seen happen before. I don't think you can penalize Byron. He's driving his ass off on old tires, so I don't think he's fine. I don't believe you put somebody that's knocked out into the playoffs. I feel like that that takes any legitimacy out of it entirely. They already got tricky with that. when they penalized the 48 and put Lugano in. That hurt my

confidence or, you know, my gut of feeling about this championship a bit, right? And so, doing more of that is going to continue to I'm going to lose my, as a fan, I'm going to lose my, like, the value of this is

in question, right? Sure. And so, is it, you know, it's a championship with an asterot. Yeah. Asteris. You got it right. Asteris? Asterix.

Yeah, that's not what he said, though. I didn't put the S on the end. Mickey Mouse Championship. I didn't know if it was a single asterisk. That's another way to get around it. That's harsh words, man, Mickey Mouse. You just like, the loyalty kind of starts to fade as a fan. When you can't trust it.

I have a hard time saying that publicly, man. Well, I'll say it. I mean, watching the race, I texted this in our group chat. I was like, I couldn't tell if I was entertaining. Mander disgusted. Like the whole time, the last couple laps, I was like, this is horrible. I can't look away. It's like a car wreck.

It is not ideal. No, the Chevy's, as soon as Austin Dillon got to the back of the 24, I was like, that's it. He ain't going to pass him. And then Ross came up and I was like, maybe Ross will because Ross don't give, he don't care. And that didn't happen either. And I'm like, what is going on?

What am I watching? Let me, let me, if I could, I saw a post on Reddit that I thought was really good. And the elimination, it's talking about the elimination format since it was brought in. It's been controversial nearly every year. Every year there's been some weird things, right? The format has been put in questions, what you're saying? No. Or just, there's been some sort of controversy.

Ever since we've had this format, it's every year has had some moments where, doesn't pay the sport in the best light or dramatic, just purely dramatic, like Jeff Gordon and Brackas-Lausky at Texas in 2014. But then Ryan Newman uses Kyle Arson as a wall, eliminating Jeff Gordon. Gordon, he had scored the most points, most top tens, best average finish.

The deal with Harvick at Vegas, or at Talladega, I'm sorry, in 2015. Yeah. You were on the bad end of that. Yeah, Kansas and Ligano, Kansas, Martinsville, 2015. Kaubush wins a championship mission 11 races that year.

2016, the fake caution, I'll call it that. I'll call it that. The fake yellow. The Phantom yellow at the end of home said, there was a problem on the track, there was a car with an issue, was it necessary to interject in that moment

to deny, you know, pretty much deny Carl Edwards of a sure win? Then Carl and Lugano have that nasty restart, crash pretty much you know car walks away from the sport after that and um harvick uh who had pretty much the best year of any driver that year was no was a non factor in the finish there 2018 joe legano uh despite having five less wins and ten less top fives than both harvick and kyle bush that was the big three in me years yes yeah yep um and then 2020 kevin harvick

with an average finish of 7.3-9 wins, 20 top 5, 27, top tens, missed the final four. Yep. And a Gibbs car. A Gibbs car refused to pass a fading Denny Hamelin late at Martinsville that year. I mean, very similar, not as quite as egregious as what we saw this weekend, but that is not the first time that has ever been done at Martinsville in this. And then, you know, it's, and again this year.

You know, there's just been a lot. It's just every year there's these little quirky things that you kind of got to accept because of the format, right? And listen, I've had friends tell me, well, just get rid of the format. Let's just go back to the full old school. God, I'd love that. Dude, if I could mash a button and us go back to the original point structure, I would be mashing it. But that is never going to happen. It's never happening.

TV's not going to buy that. And honestly, you know, in five or ten years, fans would have something about, you know, something to complain about in terms of how those championships are shaping up. Is this perfect? Maybe not. Has NASCAR changed it, evolved? Has it changed?

Could change this be coming? Maybe. Honestly, man, I don't love, Denny Hamlin, you know, would say each round is a season. It's a three-race season. And then the final race being all for, you know, it's a one race at a track that maybe you're good at, maybe you're not.

It's just like a, I don't love that. I don't have a problem with there being a playoff. I don't have a problem with there being rounds and elimination and all of those things, but I just don't think there's enough sample size for us to feel, to feel as confident about the result as we did with the old system. The old system was you couldn't question it. This guy ran all the races and got the most points.

There you go. You can't argue that. Do you feel like it would be fair to go back to having a playoff and then the point system was with those 12 drivers from then to the championship? Yeah, I'll be honest. Maybe that was. Maybe the old chase with the 10 race. Everybody starts and here's your 10 races.

Go for it. No eliminations. Right. I mean, one of the most iconic races ever was Carl Edwards and Tony Stewart battling it out in 2011 because they were just that close on points. They tied after those 10 races and it came that, you know, maybe that inspired our game 7 moment. But like we got an unbelievable moment from that system that you were just talking about. The elimination moments like Martinsville or the final race of a round does get me excited.

and you would lose that going to a 10 race playoff. But I feel better about the crowning of the champion at the end of that 10 races than I do at the end of one event at Phoenix, right? And no matter where you put it, the way we do it now, it favors a team a little bit. You've got teams that are good at specific places or specific styles of racetracks or what have you or on a certain tire that a good year makes. They got that one figured out. It would keep people from allowing their teammates to finish in front of them.

Gaming it a little bit? You think? Yeah. I think you'd have better races. Going back to like, go ahead, don't know. I was just going to say, doesn't this weekend overshadow the championship? Like, we're not going to have anything like what we saw last weekend at all at Phoenix. We're not going to have like point straight.

I mean, you might have one car maybe trying to get, but like not the chaos that we saw. And like with the 10 race, you know, the 10 race thing that you're talking about, it is the pen ultimate. You're, like, that's it. So what you may be saying is what I'm hearing maybe is that you think that the way it's stacked now, the championship race has that potential to be anti-climactic because of all of the things that happen. Exactly. Like, it's going to fall flat.

It's going to, I think you wrote it in our notes. Potential. I'm sorry. Yes, there could be. Leave yourself open to being. I won't be so close-minded. But if I'm, if I'm, let's pretend I'm a Denny Hamlin fan, why do I even care about this weekend?

I know. If, if we stacked it up and said it was a 10. race stretch, there's going to be guys that are out of it. Oh, of course. Of course. But earlier. I just hate that the Big Bang seems to be in Martinsville. It's not at Phoenix. Again, I'll keep my mind open. But 99% of time, it's not going to be a Phoenix.

It's going to be at Martinsville. It's going to be at Throval, I guess. What I do not want to do is try to put ourselves in a box where what we're having, what we had happened, what drivers seemed forced to do or felt obligated to do happens in the championship race. Yeah. Well, that's a good point. And that's, And that's not what I'm encouraging. But if there's 10 guys still in it,

I feel like it might be a little bit less encouraged. I agree. I feel like they would be less likely to even care to do that. Right. What do you mean 10 guys still in it? Like at Phoenix or Homestead. Like they're not eliminated, but their point system is based on where like,

if you finish way up here and somebody else wrecks out, like you could finish in a better position. Whereas now, like you're eliminated out and you're just running circles. Well, that's still kind of the case. Not necessarily. They're still racing for points. The rest of the playoff drivers, There's still, I mean, that's no different than, I mean, when you get to the end, the regular chase,

there's still only three guys really that have a shot at it. Are you frustrated with Phoenix if this is Homestead this weekend? It's the whole thing. No, it's the whole, I mean, yeah, Homestead would produce a better race for sure. And I don't think you'd see guys kind of checking up. Homestead still cater, I mean, it's still one race that still can cater toward a certain car, manufacturer, tire, you know. Right.

It's still. Right. It's a one race, no matter where you are. I need more. Sure. And if you ain't going to give me a full season, because they're never going back. If you're not going to give me that, I think I need more. Like a three-race playoff.

Three, maybe. Maybe that's a baby step. And again, I'm going back to. It's not going all the way. The anonymous poll, the anonymous driver poll that Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi did at the beginning of the playoffs. There were a decent amount of drivers that threw out a three-race final round. They would certainly prefer that. over the one.

Yeah. What if you told them you're going to have ten races like the old chase? They probably all pick that. They jump up and down for joy. There were a lot of people who did say that too. How many times can we change the format before people start not taking the sport seriously? You know? Are they taking that seriously now?

Do we have to stick with this? Because if we just keep changing things and we decide to champion a different way every year, does that hurt the sport in the long run? Are you proud of what you saw this weekend? No. I don't. There's not a good taste. in my mouth after that.

I mean, it kind of answers the question. A little bit. It's like if it needs to change, if something's broken, it needs to change. I think that NASCAR's willingness to change, it says a good thing. Sure. And I, yes. And going back to something they know works is not bad. But yeah, I mean,

the hem-hawing and going back and forth is always just frustrating, I guess. I just feel like that the, again, this kind of goes back to like NASCAR, I think we would all be really surprised at the decisions and choices NASCAR would make if they were untethered to network television obligation. Of course, right?

Manufacturers. Manufacturers. The team alliance. And so, you know, we can all sit here and go, man. Man, this would be a great idea. This would be a great idea. But TV's in the room, too. And they're going to go, wait, no, man, we need those elimination races.

Those are big deals. We get great numbers for those last races of round one, two, three. We need those. You can't take that. And so, you know, you're going to be hard, and they pay enough money to have tons of leverage. Rightly so. Right. So that's where all your money's coming from if you're an organization, the majority of it.

And so you have to allow them to have some leverage and they've got to win some of the debate on what their end result needs to be. And this is, you know, not that I think that, I don't know if TV's totally influenced what we have. If this was like a TV, you know, executives dream. But I know that they've, you know, they're in there, I would have to assume they were in the room of NASCAR planning this up. right but it's cyclical so like if if it's not working and fans are stopped stop watching then then they're not winning either so they kind of have everybody has to be willing to jared made that same point on action statutory fans aren't fans are watching yeah i mean well the numbers go up and down just depending on denny talked about it and he was like you know yeah ratings

are up over last year but like look at 10 years ago you know like it's not it's just not the same like sure it's a it's a year over year growth maybe you know we've we've done some good things this year i think stuff has been entertaining. Yeah. But like, and so that's what my question was going to be to you. Do you really, is NASCAR even upset about this at all, do you think? Like, this is a big weekend for them. Do they even care?

Oh, yeah. Like, do you think that like, okay, so you think that they have a problem with what happened on track? Oh, yeah. Okay. They don't. Over the ratings. Like, it kind of, like, I guess like, I'm asking like, where do they weigh out on? Is it more important to consider?

He probably want the integrity of the racing to all to be the most important thing. I think that they absolutely are happy with the race integrity being brought into question. That makes me happy to. here for sure they don't they'll tell you as a driver don't put us in that spot right and don't don't we don't want to have to be in this position um i i mean i put a lot of the i put a lot of the blame for um all of this conversation around race manipulation on the drivers they they they but the format they're reacting to the format right or the sim the one the sim as he brought up earlier I mean, you could blame the format.

You can blame the format, but the drivers make a choice. They make a choice of integrity and, you know, I'm willing to, I'm willing to not do what is purely in the mind of a racer. Right? I'm really, I'm out here not racing. Yeah. Right. I don't think there's an innocent party. I don't know.

That's the problem. A driver would walk in here and say, you think I want to do that? You think I want to ride behind that guy? You think that's what I feel like doing? You're right. Not at all. So let me ask you this. And again, we're going to going back to like what happens from this.

I just don't know how you stop it. I don't know how you, everybody probably absolutely wants it to stop. But I don't know where you go, what button you push to get it to quit. And you're probably not going to like this idea. But revisiting this. if you take Byron out and you put Larson in. No. Hold on, hold on, hear me out, hear me out.

This is terrible. I know, I know. But I've heard this conspiracy theory a few times. Go ahead. Chevy still gets their car. Mr. Hendricks still gets their car. But now, if you're a driver, oh my God, if I participate in this. What did Byron do?

He's not blocking. He's just, you could watch him drive that car and see how bad the drive off was and how much lateral grip he didn't have and how hard he was struggling just to stay there. All right, you got a point. When the one actually gets to his right recorder, he shaded left. He was like, hey, if you're there, I'm going to let you have it. You know, my intention was the thought behind it was if NASCAR shows that this can cost you a championship,

drivers will be more afraid of that consequence than it is disappointing your own manufacturer. If Byron is to get penalized in this, I would need to hear some race audio from them that would be very, incriminating and I've yet to hear it. Yeah, I mean, there wouldn't be anything. The one thing that I've learned about NASCAR over the last several decades is they're going to give you an out. They're going to, look,

if we, I can watch NASCAR, myself, anybody that's been in this industry can watch somebody, I've done this. You can watch somebody self-spin intentionally and no. 99% freaking sure that that guy spun

his damn car out on purpose. But NASCAR's going to give you the benefit of the doubt until you go run your mouth. And I've done that. And so NASCAR will give you the benefit of the doubt in this situation as well until there's incriminating evidence such as audio, race audio, comments after the race, whatever it may be.

As long as you're good there, NASCAR can't say for sure with 100% percent positive confidence that you manipulated the same. event. So I haven't seen that from the 24. And I, again, the pulling guys out of the rounds and putting other guys in, listen, I mean, I understand the 48 and the 22 deal because the 48 failed inspection. That's one thing. But for this type of stuff, it really breaks my confidence in of this particular championship race. Sure. Speaking of, they did do that. I want to confirm in 2013. They pulled Martin Truex out, put Ryan Newman in

and Jeff Gordon. So they have done that before and look at the fallout they got from that. They can't do that again. I mentioned that's Jeff Gluck after the race. And he's like, don't give me PTSD thinking about that whole thing. Well, look, they can't do that. Whatever they do choose, if they

decide, they've got to be careful that it doesn't cripple, permanently cripple any of the organizations or sour a manufacturer on their support of the sport. The manufacturers are so critical to the sport. They're not knocking on the door every day trying to get in here.

And so we got to take care of the ones that we have. But again, you know, nobody wants this. Nobody wants the racers making these decisions or feeling obligated to make these decisions or being put in these situations. But I'm not sure how you stop it. I really don't. I'd hate to be NASCAR because.

Because you've got to pull a lever and damn not really sure which one to pull and hopefully you don't pull one that ruins any kind of an organization. It's not a perfect situation. Not really. What hurts for me a lot too is I really feel for Christopher Bell. And I know there's, we just said, there's not really an innocent party here. But if the Chevys didn't start playing the games, he wouldn't have even been forced to be in that position to, you know, track down Bubba or for Bubba to let up or for him to ride the wall.

Like none of that would have happened if the Chevys didn't start playing the games. And unfortunately, I think he's just a victim here, but like, I know how it played out. I know, but you go back to... That's what's tough for Medly's. Yeah. Yeah, because it's like you don't want to punish the guy for doing, like giving it his

all. I mean, he's giving it his all and it just stinks to... Because other people are messing with it. But now you've got to start messing with it. But in 2020, it was a, it was a Gibbs. car, ironically, the number 20 that wouldn't pass Denny. In the same scenario.

They're not... Oh yeah, no one's got free. I know. Yeah, no one's got free. That's why I think I just woke up Monday morning, just not feeling good about any of it. Just none of it sits well. Yeah. And I got a friend that's like,

I thought it was good strategy. I'm like, what? What friend? Kobe. Kobe's so mad. He's your brother-in-law. That's not the same thing. You've got a family member. Well, I'm just, I say, when I'm talking about people that are watching the sport,

he's a casual viewer, he watched it, and he said, I didn't bother me. And I'm like, hey, okay, I got to take that into consideration. Here's a guy sitting in home. Him running the wall? No. Oh. The guys are not. The guys are refusing to pass.

The guy refusing to pass. The teammate thing. I got it. Yeah. They're not even teammates. They just drive Chevys. So the Chevys are like, hey, don't pass the other Chevy. Feels like the same.

Yeah. So, I mean, he's, he's a casual viewer watching. it and going, oh man, that was neat, the strategy that they had to employ to try to make that happen. Does that happen in any other racing? F1. They tell guys to pull over and let the other guy go. Oh my God. I mean, that's not racing. Team orders is what they call it. This happened this year, some guy got his first career win because his teammate pulled over for him. So if you're the guy winning, do you really feel like as powerful as you probably should? It can feel good. And so even on, to your point on Victor, on Fitzger Lane, on Pitt Road after the race, neither Byron

Norbel looked happy. No, they hated the whole thing. Yeah, I was going to ask, do you think Byron's like happy going into this week? Like, do you think he carries the same amount of confidence going into Phoenix as he would knowing that he kind of got thrown a bone here? No question he carries confidence. At that level, he's elite.

He's the NASCAR driver. He goes in confident. But absolutely he's sitting there privately thinking to himself, this doesn't feel as good as if I had just gotten it on my own. Got it on my own. It doesn't feel as good, right? It just, I don't know that it could, but I'm just assuming. I don't know, man.

We'll have some information later this week on whether NASCAR steps in, what they do, oh, we will, everyone will have an opinion about what they choose or choose not to do. What do you think they should do? I don't, that's the part that I do. Do you punish the one, the 23, and the three?

Are those the ones who get punished here? I don't know what you do. Look, they tore Bubba's car apart looking for something wrong with it. We haven't heard what they might have found or not found. You know, they're doing everything they can. I was watching Bubba's M car. It was convincing to me that he was out of shape in trouble. So if they don't find anything wrong with Bubba's car,

I might not, I don't have much to stand on in terms of penalizing him. Now the one and the three, that is absolutely either a one-race suspension for the drivers, which would probably be detriment, you know, that'd probably be a deterrent going forward. Oh, I would say, you're going to make this choice and you're going to put it in our, you know, you're going to make us have to choose what you're doing here.

I would not hate that. Right. I think that that might, unfortunate is this may be, that might be the best case scenario for everyone to be able to move forward without a whole lot of collateral damage down the road. I actually think that's your fix right there. I don't, points and money, I don't know. The money find stuff, I don't even know, right? Because none of us really truly understand how detrimental that is, right? These are drivers that make a good salary. These are teams that. have lots of funding. So where does a real money monetary fine stack up? Is it hurtful?

Does it? And Denny was even saying the manufacturer would probably pay that fine. This all feels like policing children. It really does. Like, yeah, I'll take that toy away. Or you set time out. But if you can't go on the trip or if you can't go on that sleepover or whatever else, like that's what would hurt our daughter's feelings.

I know it's not the same thing. And the points, you'd have to see how, you know, Does that really matter? You took some points away from the guy and he went from 18th to 19th. I don't, you know, does that. Or he's so far ahead of the guy that just literally does not matter at all. I think you'd have to say that Chastain and Dillon, it could get announced that they sit out. And I actually, you're like, how do you curb it?

That is not a bad step in the right direction because now if you are involved in some sort of manipulation, I mean, you take the driving seat away and a driver's going to have to watch someone else's car that weekend. I feel like that is something most race car drivers are not going to want. It's like a, you don't want to race? We ain't going to race. The reason why I choose. That's actually it right there. The reason why I choose that is because I don't think that runs the manufacturer

off for showers their taste about the sport. I don't think it kills an organization like what we have with Michael Walshup Racing. And it doesn't affect our playoff chase, championship race, whatever you want to, you know, it doesn't affect Phoenix. That's not bad for TV either. Yep. Wow. Let's call NASCAR.

Let's tell him we figured it out. And I don't really think those two are the, I wouldn't go any further than that. I think that's pretty much. Unless you find something with Bubba. Or you don't find something with Bubba. I don't think you do. I think he got up in the marbles. His tires were ice and that was it.

You definitely have more of a case for the Chevys, I think. Bubba played it off pretty well. He's either really darn good or something happened. Yeah. I tend to believe something happened. but we'll see. And when he, all right, did what he did, did what Bubba did affect,

did that get anybody in? No. Well, it would have gotten Bell in. It would have, yeah. Well, because he rode the wall. Yeah. Well, and Freddie yesterday brings up that if they really wanted to manipulate it,

as soon as they went a lap down, he would have just said, oh, I got a tire going down, and let Christopher Bell get the lucky dog. And then if a caution comes out, then it's, then don't matter. Yeah. I saw that argument.

All right. Well, anyways, we got a... Felt good. That felt kind of therapeutic. Did we get it all out? That's it. Well, we know NASCAR is going to look further into the on-track actions of the competitors during the race Sunday. We expect those decisions to come early this week or midweek.

It was a, you know, it was a hell of a win by Blaney. I predicted Blaney would go battle for his second championship, and he's making me look pretty smart by putting himself in the finals with Lugano, Reddick, and Byron. And, yeah, Ryan's going to call in. He's actually here right now. All right, so let's get him online. Let's talk to Ryan and see what his thoughts are on the weekend.

We got our winner from this past weekend at Martinsville, Ryan Blaney, the champion. the champion, Ryan Blaney. And he has won Martinsville, similar to last year, vaulted himself into the finals at Phoenix to go for the repeat. And I just want to say, I might not be the only one, but I picked this to happen, right? Y'all know, y'all remember that, right?

I said, the guy's going to win it again. I didn't think it was going to be this dramatic. But no one else, I don't know. Did anybody else pick him in this race? I don't think so. I did not. Sorry, Ryan. Yeah.

Well, anyways. Hey, that's fine. Screw all you all. So, Ryan. Listen, man, you know, you've been, you've been, you had a solid year. Had to have been a lot of fun going into this year as a champion, right? You've checked this massive box. So much pressure is off your shoulders.

And now anything beyond this point is just gravy. And here you are with a chance. to win another one. How does this feel different than last year? Yeah, I mean, it's definitely been a fun year for sure and coming off what we did last year. And I honestly, like, I personally feel like we've had a better year. I feel as a team, we've been stronger this year than we were last year.

Like, through the year and I feel like we haven't really gotten some of the results that we've deserved, just kind of gotten caught up in. a lot of wrecks and all that stuff. But I feel like us as a group, we're doing great. But, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think that experience helps, like, kind of going through the playoffs. Our playoffs had a lot of ups and downs. Like, I feel like we, like, there was one race in every round of the playoffs that we got in wrecked.

Like, you know, we ran great Atlanta, went to Walker's Glen, wrecked on lap one, got to the next round, and then got wrecked to Talladega, the second race, and came back, still transferred. And then wrecked in Las Vegas. run eight and then we put together two good weeks like i i think just um the mentality of our group having gone through it once and and succeeded like that just really put us in a good spot of not really letting a lot of things bother us and just focusing on what's the next goal and how do we you know apply ourselves enough to to try to you know achieve that goal and um people asked me at were asking me like what's the difference between you know this year last year i'm like

I almost want, I'm like hungrier to win a second championship than I was the first because it's almost like eating the forbidden fruit and you like, you want that feeling again and you want to be back in that spot again and you had that feeling for a little bit. How do we get back there? So it's been a fun year for sure and it's nice to just have another chance at it. And, you know, it's a cool group to do it with. These are great people. Out of all of the drivers that we're trying to make it into this finals, some pretty heavy hitters.

found themselves on the outside looking in, namely Larson, but you had, you know, Chase sort of peaking at the right time at this part of the year. I don't want to discredit the competition because there, you know, you've got Redick who won the regular season. Byron was strong all year going for his first championship, and you've got a guy and your teammate, Ligano, you know exactly what you're up against there. but knowing that, you know, Larson, Hamlin, some of those heavy hitters are thinned out. Does that change your confidence at all?

No. You know, I feel like, I mean, those guys are going to be tough. No matter who's in at Phoenix, it's going to be difficult. Like, so I don't, you know, I don't really look at it that way of, you know, those guys not being in compared to some other guys that are in. Like, I know everyone, it's going to be a tough task no matter what. like you're going to have your work cut out for you. So yeah, I've never really looked at it that way, and it's going to be difficult no matter who's in it. It's just nice that we are a part of it, and we are still alive in the deal. What about your teammate being a part of the four? How is that an

advantage? Might it be a challenge at times as you go through this week? Yeah, you know, on the good side of it, it's great that we have two chances to bring Roger another championship, right? I mean, that's and bring team Penske another champion trip try to win them three in a row you know that is great that is great for our whole organization and group that you have upped your odds and your chances of winning and bringing the trophy back here to team Penske um i mean the other side of it yeah maybe people might think it's difficult when you're kind of racing against your teammate but in that on that stage but i feel like we've always done a good job in our group of racing each other with a lot of respect and no one's really taken away from anything. Like, we've always worked really well as a team

from crew chiefs and drivers and mechanics of all kind of collaborating with each other and sharing information. And that hasn't changed this week. Like, we're still sharing as much information like we normally do. And then you just, you know, try to go out there and race. And Rogers always told us, right, we've never had team orders. We've never had this type of thing. He said, you know, I don't care who wins as long as one of you win. Like, don't take each other out. and hand it to another person, right? So he's let us have the freedom of doing it. And so, yeah, I don't think there's any downside.

It's just good that we have, you know, double the chances of trying to win Roger another championship. I know you got a, you know, a championship to go try to win in Phoenix, but another big day coming down the pipe, this winner with your wedding. That is bigger than the championship.

Are you ready? For sure. I think we're ready. I'm sure G's ready. she's got out figured out we're both at the stage right now of you know we're coming up on less or just over a month away and uh you know we've been engaged for almost a year and the planning stage is fun for the first like handful of months and we're just over it yeah like we're tired of planning we're just tired of we just want the day to be here we just want to be with our friends and family

and with each other and you know just finally finally do it so yeah we're just we're just we're just We're just super eager to finally get out there and have a good time. What's the most common piece of advice people are giving you about that experience? What do you need to do on that day? Enjoy it with each other. Like, you know, there's going to be tons of people there, but this is y'all's day, me and Gianna's day. Just like anyone who's getting married, it's for you too. So, yeah, I think that's the best advice that I've gotten so far is just remember that it's you two.

And, yeah, you're trying to make sure everyone else has fun. Definitely appreciate you, you too appreciate what's going on in the week out there. I would say that's not just true for that day. Do that the entire time you're out there. You're going to have a lot of family and friends and everybody's going to have their anxieties or their needs. And just politely go your separate ways. Especially with family. My family was in town when we got married and all from Texas.

And so I had to really help cater to all of their needs because they had nothing here. So it was a lot. Yeah. trying to like we're planning the week out and it's like all right well we have you know these things we have to do with the group you know stuff like this but we've blocked off like two nights like hey it's just going to be you and I you know the day we go you know just go to dinner you and I oh that'd be good yeah yeah you and I so that that part I think we've done a decent job of kind of mixing and matching their job the there'll be a lot

of amazing moments but I think I can't wait to hear your description of of what you think or feel the moment she appears. That is like, when I look back on our wedding, that moment when I first saw her as she's coming down the aisle was hard, it's hard to describe, I can't, but it was beyond anything else that happened the rest of the week.

We didn't do pictures or anything like that beforehand, so we didn't see each other. Yeah, so. Yeah. And that, yeah, I guess that kind of probably made it a little different for me. But, man, I mean, you know, you know what your wife looks like. You know what you think she's going to look like in that moment.

But it just all hits home that you're making this decision together. And I'm happy for you, man. I'm excited about that. I can't wait to see you go through that experience. But appreciate your time today, man. You got a big, big task at hand this weekend. And I know you're ready for it. And I'm excited for you.

and hopefully everybody there puts on a show. The sport needs it. The sport's excited about it. Hope we can finish the season strong. Yeah, it'll be one to watch. So it's always nice to see y'all. Thanks for having me, and we'll talk to you soon. Sounds good.

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He's keeping my my my my my my pick my pick alive but um hey uh good guy great uh you know great champion great representative for uh for the sport of NASCAR and um and a good friend and a good friend yeah really good guy so i mean you you know what do you think about you excited about him finally settling down here i mean let's put the championship aside you know i know you're i know you're excited about the whip. I'm excited about both. I didn't predict him to win. I picked Kyle just because it's like a hard thing to do to win twice, especially in a row. Well, he didn't want it yet. And Larson's been, especially at the beginning of season, always very strong. So that's why I didn't pick him to win. But yeah, I'm very excited about their nuptials and the event in general and seeing her all

dressed up. It's going to be really fun. Yeah. So looking forward to that, man. Great to have our winner call in here on the show. And thank you NASCAR. And thank you. all the drivers for working with us throughout the year to bring that to us. And yeah, so. And we'll get the champion next week. Next week, we got the champion. Isn't it our kind of our, it ain't our final show. No, it's not.

But it's a final recap, race recap show. It's our final show after a race. But we're going to do some more content this winter than we've ever done before. Yeah, we've got a lot of cool things. We've got some great ideas. And me and Amy are going to come in the studio throughout the winter. and drop some content and have some fun with the holidays. So, yeah, we're not going to disappear.

So the other thing, too, was Blaney drove really aggressively to get to the lead. Great short track racing. I got to commend Good Year on a great tire. Yes. Phenomenal. Yep. They finally brought a tire, Amy. They've been taking tires to the short tracks that can run 30,000 miles.

And they decided to start trying to take tires that would wear out and cause some challenges for the drivers. And they've really went above and beyond to produce, I think, a really good tire for the short tracks at Martinsville and make some good ground. I'm really confident and happy about that. We've asked Good Year for years to get going. Get off their ass here. And they finally got it going. I feel like when you were racing, you would beg Good Year for a tire that would stay together. No.

Well, hey, we want the tire to stay together. but we want it to wear out. We need it to slow down. So complicated. That's got to be a very hard thing to do. You don't want a tire that can run the same lap time for 150 laps. And so they... And you're just talking about short tracks.

Yeah, just the short tracks. But it was a great tire. Blaney did some old school rooting and gouging, which was nice to see because the next-gen cars couldn't even get to each other. Yeah, it was cool to see people actually bumping people out of the way. Yeah, yeah. It was nice. I love it.

The tire, big part of that, big part of that. I mean, hell, going back to the tire, I think Chase short pitted someone and like jumped two spots or so. He took the lead late in the race because of the tire alone. As I mentioned tomorrow, we have AJ Armadinger, Austin Hill, Justin Argyar, Cole Custer coming in to talk about racing for the Infinity Championship this weekend. And then our truck series Final Four, Effinger, Eckies, Heim, Majeski. it's going to be a hell of a race Eckie's you know

him and Taylor Gray do y'all watch the truck race I was at a concert but I saw bits and pieces out of it so yeah Taylor Gray gets the lead I didn't see anything wrong with

short track race but but Ecky's used him up running him up the race track again I feel like I didn't hate it it was aggressive but you can't give the guy shot

You can't give the guy a chance to get you back in the next corner. So if you're going to ship somebody at a short track, you're damn sure better make sure they can't get you in the next corner. Ship and run. Right. And so the bump and run, we loved it at Bristol. We've always loved the aggression and contact at the short tracks. I'm fine with it.

I know Taylor Gray was unhappy. He had every right to go make a comment, handle his business. And so, and we love that too, right? We love seeing the post-race Dramatics. So it'll be interesting in Phoenix how aggressive the truckers will go. They set the tone. They set the tone for championship weekend.

And somebody's going to have to step up because Hosevar's not in it. All right. Gosh, remember that. He will love that. He will love that. He thinks that's funny. I think it's funny.

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pros. All right, it's time for Dirty Mo Doe, the best bets that the dough team is ready to make, his hat, has made over the last couple of weeks. We're going to talk about it, but first, before we do, we're going to get with our group bet of the week. So we made a bet last week for the Thursday night football group parlay, Thursday night football 8.15 p.m. on Prime. This weekend, it's the Ravens of Bengals, but last week, yeah, we failed again.

Yeah, that's on me. That's on me. Tyler Conklin did not get his, no, he didn't. What, two catches now? He dropped one, and then they ran back-to-back plays with third-string tight end. So I'll take it on the chin, but I think it's the offensive coordinator's fault there for us. I cashed out earlier in the game and made it a little bit. Smart. I just, I think it was starting in the fourth quarter. They still a cash-out option for a couple bucks. Yeah, it was good ending the game. The beginning of the game kind of sucked, but yeah, good ending. Well, this week we got the Ravens and the Bengals, and I've got a couple of ideas on what I want to do for my prop. But you guys, go ahead.

All right, I'll go first. I'm taking Zayflowers over 50 receiving yards. They had a big game last week. Yeah, he's looking pretty good. A couple touchdowns. I'm going to kind of compete with you. I'm going to go with Deontay Johnson two catches. He just got traded there, right?

Yes, he did. Yeah. From the Panthers. Yes, he did. Moneyline? Is that me? I'm picking the Ravens, of course, because their recent performance, they've been in great form, winning six of their last seven games, not to mention Lamar Jackson's having MVP-type season,

20 touchdowns, at least that's what AI is telling me. All right, so nine out of the last nine games, Derek Henry has gotten a touchdown. So anytime touchdown for Derek Henry is sitting there at minus 300. but I'm going to go with the other running back on the field C Brown for the Bengals under 15 and a half rushing attempts. He's done this 8 out of 9

of the last games and it's at minus 108. I believe that's the odds for that. Yes, but you can't parlay it. Yeah. Oh, really? Yeah. Why not? I don't know. Fando won't let you. No shit. Yeah.

Well, in that case. What about under 22.5 receiving yards for C. Brown? You can do that. Let's do that. All right. So under 22 and a half receiving yards for C. Brown. He's done that eight of the last nine games as well. And the odds are pretty good to help us get a good return on this.

So there's our four prop parley. Follow Tampa Tim's on Twitter. He will post this parley when he makes his bet. And we'll all be able to jump on and see if we want to tell that. but the NASCAR bets coming out of Martinsville, how did we do? We did pretty well. I had a Chase Elliott top Chevrolet bet. The group had a couple of matchups against Kyle Larson, Byron, and Elliott as well.

So that worked out, I think one for two there. And then I live bet Ryan Blaine to win. So that was a big cash ticket there for me. Nice. All right. Going into the finals, what are the opportunities here since this is for the championship race? Where are you going to put your money? You know, I've seen a lot of people asking me on Twitter

if they should cash out their pre-existing championship bets, and I've seen a lot of good offers, and I'm always a guy who takes the profit. That's my personal preference, but all the championship guys are plus 280 and under to win. Now you're down to the final race. I don't think there's any sense in cashing out unless you want a profit. I'd let it ride if it's a high odds play.

But for me, I think you go up kind of the same strategy as last year. I think Blaney and Penske is so good at these times. tracks. I think you stay there. I think JGR might be a good win bet if you want to go there because I think they have no cars in the final four. They're probably going to bring rockets and they're pissed off and they want to win. A little bit of like a revenge race for Seabell maybe. Yeah, exactly. It's going to bring a little bit of extra speed. Yeah. And he's plus 400 coming out. It's the second highest best odds to win. Right on line. So all right, man. Well,

Dirty Modo comes out every Thursday. Make sure you tune in to get more insider information on some of the best bets to make and just listening to how they might handicap the field. We'll see if we can finally win one of these Thursday night football group parlayes. I feel pretty good about what we've chose leading into the Ravens and the Bengals. 815 on Prime. We'll see you. All right, it's time for the white flag. Dropping after the race to tear down with Jeff Gluck and George Mianke.

I mean, with everything going on at Martinsville, all the drama, listening to all of Dirty Mo Media's content this week would be imperative, and it's going to continue to come out as more things are learned throughout the week. But the tear down is the initial reaction right after the race. Jeff Gluck, Jordan, two guys right on top of everything that's happening in the sport, giving you everything they can. Then yesterday, door bump up are cleared with Jeff Gluck as well, and actions detrimental with Denny Hamlin.

Two great shows, giving you even more insight from different perspectives over what they saw this past weekend at Martinsville. Dropping tomorrow's Speed Street with Connor Daly and Chase Holden. Those guys have rocked it all year. along and our guest show. Xfinity Series Championship 4 Drivers all come in to sit down together and we ask them some pretty good questions

putting them against each other because they've all bounced off of each other at some point during the season. Dropping Thursday, DJD reloaded with Ask Junior and Morris actually Ask Amy this week since she was in the studio and then Dirty Mo Doe giving you the best bets for this weekend and also our NFL

game or Thursday night football group parlay as well. So Dalton you have this week's Social media stand out. I do. This comes from Ryan Holman 88 on Twitter. He actually had an asked junior question. Stuck out to me, though.

He said, is this considered business casual for my 16-year-old daughter's high school Night of Excellence? They suggested a button up. And it is a Budweiser jacket. I think it fits. I would love if it counts. I would love if he wore that. You can certainly put that over a button down shirt, and you're locked in, man.

Fashion these days, man. All right, man. That's the show. Had a lot of fun today. love having Amy in here. Thank y'all for being so great to her. Some great conversation around everything going on in the sport. It's hard to know where to land,

but we're going to learn more throughout the week, and hopefully whatever NASCAR sorts out and how this settles down, we're all pretty fine, pretty happy with it. So, all right, we'll see you tomorrow. Championship 4 from the Xfinity Series stopping in. Check out Dirtymo Media on Twitter, Facebook, TikTok, and Instagram.