The Dale Jr. Download - 606 - Cleetus McFarland: Do It For Dale
Episode Date: February 19, 2025Dale Earnhardt Jr. welcomes Cleetus McFarland, one of the most recognizable stars in the YouTube automotive scene, to the Dale Jr. Download this week. Fresh off his ARCA Racing Series debut at Daytona..., McFarland caught the eyes and hearts of race fans with his post-race interview and time spent in the Fox broadcast booth. Garrett Mitchell was born in Omaha, Nebraska, and the Cleetus McFarland character was born thanks to a viral video made by a burgeoning street racing film company he worked with. After splitting his time between video editing, covering events, and law school, McFarland decided to go full-time with his own YouTube page and rapidly grew into one of the biggest followings on the platform. McFarland turned heads in the oval racing world when he purchased the dilapidated Desoto Speedway in Bradenton, Florida, and turned it into his personal playground for content. He and Dale recount the story of how the purchase came to be, and how a run-in with the IRS and COVID restrictions almost stopped him dead in his tracks. In an effort to bounce back from the obstacles, McFarland hosted his first Freedom 500, a race held for state auction purchased Crown Vics. The races have since become marquee events, held at established short track strongholds such as Indianapolis Raceway Park, Stafford Springs, and Bristol. The guys also discussed his time spent with Greg Biffle in relief efforts for Hurricane Helene and how Greg has become a mentor in his stock car racing efforts.FanDuel Disclaimer: Must be 21+ and present in select states. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Is there a video or an idea out there that you don't want to do, that it's not possible at the moment,
that you've got this grand plan?
Should I say it?
All right.
Well, this one we were going to keep you on the wrap until it happened, but I'm going to say it
because I'm with you.
You're the legend.
All right, it's time to bring our next guest onto the show.
This is going to be a lot of fun for me, Cletus McFarland.
He is a YouTube creator, something that we do here at Dardimo Media.
I have a lot to learn about that from him.
I can't wait to dig into his approach
and just hear his story about how he turned himself into
one of the more popular YouTube content creators out there.
And he bought this racetrack.
He does a lot of crazy stuff.
He races, and now he went and ran an arc race at Daytona.
And so just a lot there.
This dude is, and what's next?
29 years old, got the whole world in front of him, got his whole life in front of it.
And it seems like the creativity and whatever may come next is limitless.
So let's bring him in the room, get started.
This is going to be a lot of fun here, Cletus McFarland on the Eldjutor download.
It's been an exciting thing to come meet you.
I know.
I'm excited to talk to you.
I've been watching you.
I mean, probably since you bought that racetrack, I've been paying attention to what you're doing.
Oh, yeah?
That's cool.
And so, and I think I kind of, you know, the algorithm.
rhythm showed me the three truck and all that stuff for a while back of the day. I was curious if you
had seen anything. I had seen it. Yeah. So, um, 29 years old. What's your real name?
Garrett Mitchell. Garrett Mitchell. Where were you born? Omaha, Nebraska. When did you, uh, start your
YouTube page? 2009. Where were you living then? Omaha, Nebraska. What was the motivation behind
creating that page? Well, originally it was my normal name, you know, and, uh, uh, you're, uh,
I made RC plane and boat videos.
Really?
Yeah.
That was what you were into.
Yeah.
And then 2015 July, my buddy called me Cletus in a total spoof video, just as a joke.
Yep.
And then when that took off, I actually didn't do anything with it for a few years,
but I finally decided I wanted to pursue a YouTube career,
and I changed the name of the channel to Cletus,
because that's what everyone called me pretty much.
So the videos of you,
The original stuff, is that that still exists.
Like the RC stuff?
Yeah, all those original videos, right?
Is that all on the same page?
Yeah.
And so take me back to like when you're like growing that audience and how you, what was the motivation?
Where were, what were the milestones?
You were like, this was a cool moment.
You know, because like I've got some friends that have a few pages and they'll get the plaque or something in the mail about, you know, having a certain amount of followers and so.
for us. So tell me how that, tell me how you enjoyed that process and how that process grew.
So, you know, when I was young, you know, 10, 12 years old, making the RC plane videos,
I purely did it for the process. I liked editing videos and posting something about my airplanes.
I didn't even care if it got views. When I was, when I came back, started doing it again,
I had been working for a YouTube channel. So I kind of knew how to make a title and thumbnail,
you know, we made street racing videos.
Who?
And 1320 video.
You made racing videos?
So really the guy owed my entire career to, his name's Kyle Loftus, owner of a 1320 video.
And I filmed a video of a street race.
And I showed it to him because he was the only guy with a YouTube channel in town.
I thought it was the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life.
And he ended up using the footage in his video around this time, Instagram and stuff was coming out.
And I said, hey, like, could I help you do your social media?
I'm just in high school, you know.
And he was like, sure, you know, give it a shot.
So for years, I just didn't, you know, work for any money.
I just helped him make his stuff.
And then I was around the YouTube channel a lot.
So I just learned a lot.
And he's the one who called me Cletus in a video, you know, years down the road.
I was always behind the camera.
And I'll never say this enough.
He's the most gracious person I've ever met.
Because if someone, you know, when the video went viral and I became Cletus,
a lot of business owners would say, whoa, like, let me grab a hold of this deal, see how I can make money off it.
Kyle helped me spread my wings and create my own thing so that I'm doing what I do today.
Yeah.
And so when I started my channel, I was working for Kyle in law school because I didn't know what to do with my life.
Law school?
Yeah.
Made through college, graduated year early.
Wait, wait, wait.
You got a degree?
Yeah.
In law?
Yeah.
Well, no.
I graduated college with an entrepreneurship degree.
That's impressive.
I was terrified of what to do with my life.
So I went to law school, Stetson University.
Dang.
And about a year and a half in, I was working for Kyle full-time.
So every day I'd go home from school
and work on his videos and his pages and things like this.
It was a full-time job at this point.
We were killing it.
Four million followers on Facebook.
We had like the biggest out of Facebook page.
We were crushing it.
And I was watching all these YouTube videos because that's how we would drive content to his page,
just posting other people's videos.
And I'm like, man, these guys, I could do this.
You know, I could make videos like this in my garage.
So I asked Kyle, I said, hey, you know the cleatest thing?
Like, think about making some YouTube videos in my garage after school.
He's like, as long as it doesn't, you know, affect your work, go ahead.
Even, you know, post your links on the page.
You know, if you need help, get in traction, whatever.
So, you know, as you talked about those milestones, you know, I remember the first time I got
100 views overnight. You know, that was a big deal to me. And I remember when it was 500 views
in a night and then a thousand in a day. And I remember when I hit 10,000 in a day. And I have
some really terrible videos on my channel that went super viral because I knew the thumbnail
title recipe, right? That's key. What is the recipe?
So, yeah, that's right, the recipe.
The way I look at it is you could have the best video ever made,
but if no one goes through the door, what does it matter what's on the other side?
Right?
The door is the title and thumbnail.
So, like, my biggest video on my channel is a Corvette C7 exhaust with four whistle tips.
You know the whistle tip things that you can screw in your exhaust?
Yes.
With four of those in each tip.
And it's just a picture that makes you say, like, what does that say?
What is that?
Yeah.
And it just says 800 horsepower Corvette versus turbo whistles, and it has 14 million views.
The video itself is terrible.
But, you know, like this is back when I had, you know, maybe 10,000 subscribers.
Yeah.
So, you know, then you enter a whole new thing.
I call the gauntlet where you have enough people watching your videos to hate on you so heavily.
And until you make it to about 100,000 subscribers, where you get some people that start
defending you and say, hey, I kind of like this guy.
It's brutal. It is savagery out there.
Yeah. Because it also matters if you have a reputation or not.
Like the Biff, you know, he's starting a YouTube channel, but he already has an excellent
reputation. We know him, yeah. Everyone knows him. If you're just some kid making a YouTube
channel, the world wants you to fail. You know, the internet wants you to fail for some reason.
That's just how it works. So if you can make it through that, I do remember sitting in my room
many times thinking, why am I doing this?
People are so, they'll bring you down to rock the bottom.
But then, you know, there was times when I was like,
this is the greatest day in my life.
You know, I got this silver plaque at 100,000 subscribers, you know?
So certainly many milestones in those smaller numbers.
Then it gets a little easier.
You know, about 100,000, you're not worrying so much
if the video is not performing that well because it'll still get,
you know, decent bit of views regardless,
because you're starting to have that fan base.
You have, it's a competitive field, right?
Do you look, I mean, so.
That is an interesting question.
Yeah, so how do I, how do you look at it?
Because to a lot of people and myself, I think the, we look at you, like I spend, I would rather sit down and grab my iPad and sit on the couch and watch YouTube videos than watch TV.
Yeah.
And that is something, that's something that took a long time.
to happen, right?
I had, you know, I watched, I watched Cheers when I was a kid, night court, the office.
I mean, you know, I had all these sitcoms, and that's not the way I spend my time anymore.
And so when I go there to watch, I'm getting things in the algorithm that it thinks I want to
watch, and there's, you know, there's a lot of automotive stuff.
do you look at that landscape
as basically just this wide open prairie
or is it a competitive space?
Do you compete?
I have gone down this conversation.
You know, I've talked about it many times with friends.
I don't think it's so much competition.
Like, I have to win over the viewers
versus them watching my buddies videos.
Because that's never seemed to be,
that's never seemed to be the case.
It's almost like they'll just watch both.
I don't know.
I've never felt that competition,
but I've always driven myself to be like,
I want to be the one with the best content there is
when it comes to drag racing and stuff.
So maybe that's just automatically worked out that way for us,
but I don't feel like my neighbor can pull views off of my channel,
if that makes sense.
Yeah.
Who are some of the people that you respect in the space?
that do some similar stuff.
Oh, wow.
Or maybe not even that similar.
Yeah.
I mean, I have a lot of friends that have made channels off of just the most outrageous things you can do.
And I have a ton of respect.
Obviously, Kyle with 1320 with the street racing stuff and street car stuff.
But then there's guys like Whistling Diesel, you know, he's a good friend of mine.
He has totally built a channel off of destroying stuff, you know.
And a lot of people think he's crazy, but he's taking massive risk.
sometimes he's destroying cars that are worth $300,000
and then banking on the video doing so well he can make his money back.
He's making risky business moves, you know,
so you've got to respect it at the end of the day
because he pulls crazy views and a lot of channels that I respect.
You know, the Hoonigan guys built an amazing platform,
and, man, my buddy, J.HD, so I'll give it to him.
He's done a great job building his channel,
and many friends around me have built.
What are some of the pitfalls?
in this business?
I would say some of the pitfalls.
Ooh.
People let off the gas when they're at the top.
And I see that a lot.
What about that's a good,
that's probably common across the board and everything,
getting, being successful in sort of turning,
you know, going idle at throttle.
Yeah.
What about, what about like not writers block,
but like creative blocks or,
Yeah, I think YouTubers call it burned out.
God, really, man.
And how do you handle that?
I've never had that feeling.
You never had it.
Uh-uh.
How do you handle like, how do I did this now?
What's next?
How do I do this?
What happens to YouTubers more than often than not is they'll have, they'll work super hard on a video and then it does poorly.
And that brings YouTubers down big time.
It's kicking a gut.
And you just have to set the expectation when you work really hard on a video, that's going to be your worst video of the month.
Like for some reason, that's how it is.
And I think getting over that can be tough.
You just got to push through.
I always tell the guys, views come and they go.
You'll have your best week ever followed by the worst week in the fiscal year.
It's just weird.
When I'm working on podcasts, I've learned to not get really excited about certain bits
or certain pieces of content because it's the stuff that I think that people are going
to love, they tend to just go ho-hum about.
And then there's this thing that we talked about that I didn't think was a big deal at all
that they want to know more about that they draw to.
Yeah.
And so it's kind of unpredictable,
but is there like a scientific method to the process of what you release,
when you release?
I know you have to know like, all right, man,
the shorts accomplish this.
This is why I do this short.
It has this purpose, right?
Do you have all the, are you like the man behind the?
Yep, so I edit all the videos and make every thumbnail title,
along with George here, who's my right-hand guy.
helps me out on all that stuff.
And, you know, in the past two years, we actually switched from just doing fun stuff
and recording it and then posting it to making sure it's a title and thumbnailable
idea then doing the fun stuff.
Yeah.
And recording it and publishing it.
And that's made a significant upgrade to our channel and viewership.
Because if you just look at the title and thumbnail, and it can't make something that
him and I in our brain think hits,
we just won't do it.
Yeah.
Or we'll do it,
we can still do it
and just include it in a video
that has a title
and some nailable moment.
Yeah.
And now we just know the recipe.
It's more predictable now
than it used to be.
You know, eight years ago,
I would just do it.
You know, if my,
if I spun a rod bearing,
then I would just have to change rod bearing
and the video would be titled,
changing a rod baron on Leroy,
you know?
So that's just what it was.
Yeah.
Now we can actually produce
based off what we,
want that moment to be. Yeah. Is there a video or an idea out there that you don't want to do,
that you just, it's not possible at the moment, but you've got this grand plan? Should I say it?
It's Dale Jr.'s podcast. I got to say it. All right. Well, this one, we were going to keep you
on the wraps until it happened, but I'm going to say it because I'm with you. You're the legend.
It's happening. It's going to be a little bit longer, but we're building a redneck air,
carrier.
Really?
Out of pontoon boats that I'm going to land my airplane on.
What?
Yeah.
We're pretty excited about it.
What kind of airplane?
Carbon Cub.
Okay.
How much, what's the runway performance?
I mean, well, aircraft carrier is going to be underway.
Oh, it's going to be moving.
So we're going to get some headwind off of that.
You got a cable?
You're going to stop the plane with a cable?
How are you going to get this thing from one off?
That's right.
We're going to put an arresting cable on it.
Well, you know, I compete in like Stole,
competitions won one one recently in that in this plane right it's a high performance extremely
lightweight what kind of competition stole short takeoff and laying yeah okay yeah so you compete in
competitions doing yeah yeah damn dude so this this plane i mean on a good day it can get off in 60
feet you know pretty much just in its normal weight but if we take it down to nothing how many
pontoons do you need i think we're just doing three
Three. So the ship's only going to be 60 feet long. How fast is it moving?
Well, we're hoping to get her to go about 15 knots. Yep. And that'll create the...
Plus a headwind. Yeah, plus the headwind. That'll create the, the performance, landing performance.
We think we got... Yeah, it can land like nothing, especially with an arresting hook. That's wild.
So I'm excited that that's out there now. That's got out there. And if you're the FAA, give us a minute. We're going to give you.
call about this.
Are you?
Do you have to handle
all that legal stuff too?
I mean,
is it because it's...
Yeah.
You ran into some missions
in the past?
Oh, yeah.
I get calls from the FBI a lot,
but we really do follow the rules.
Like, I take aviation safety,
serious.
You know, something like that idea
might sound crazy,
but worst case,
I end up in the water.
You know, my airplane's going to float
and I'll get out.
Yeah.
The airplane's going to be wet.
We'll fix that,
but it's really not a dangerous situation,
in my opinion.
it.
You're married?
Yes, sir.
Kids.
Yep, two kids.
My beautiful wife, Maddie, and we have a 11-month-old and a two-year-old.
My gosh.
All right.
When you had kids, I know it's still new, but did that affect your risk-taking ability?
Yes.
I definitely think about them more.
You know, you would think about your wife and, you know, your life, but your kids,
pull a different chord.
Absolutely.
I think the last time,
you know, the most significant times I think about them
is when I'm in my drag car that goes 250.
You know, 250 is fast.
That's fast.
And I think about them when I'm in that.
But all the other stuff,
as dangerous as it does seem,
seems pretty calculated.
You know, the aircraft are inherently dangerous.
We have the best equipment you can get.
We use the best service centers.
We don't work on them ourselves for the most part.
So it's a carbon cub.
So I feel pretty good about everything we do,
but the drag car, $2.50 is getting it, you know.
And that's on its low side, you know.
It can do $2.70.
So how often are you messing with that thing?
We pull her out.
We just got that one, the one I'm referring to,
it's called Eagle.
And I don't know.
We'll probably run it a dozen times this year.
Do you just take it out and do appearances?
We go to competitions.
Right?
Competitions you enter and try to perform?
Yep.
you're not just showing up and doing a celebrity appearance.
We don't do any appearances.
No appearances.
We only go for racing.
Yep.
All right.
So let's talk about the racetrack.
Yep.
Was DeSoto?
It was formerly known as DeSoto, now the Freedom Factory.
What would have happened to this track if you hadn't bought it?
Well, funny you ask that because the week I bought it, the developer that now is developing
behind the track came to me and tried to buy it that week and offered me.
I think it was a million more than I bought it for,
which at the time to me was, you know,
it's still a significant amount of money,
but, like, it made my eyebrows rise
because I was like, maybe I should do this.
Right, sure.
You know, it would be a,
it would be part of the development, no doubt.
So right now, behind our tracks.
How are you fighting that, though?
Because that's the problem.
Yeah, so the...
I think I saw you talking about that recently.
Yeah, the commissioners,
our local commissioners, approved a massive,
housing development behind our tracks.
Recently.
Which is crazy because, you know, if you had the nicest development in the, you know,
around, you wouldn't let them build a racetrack next to it, right?
That's just common sense.
And that happened recently, right?
Yeah, so the commissioners approved it.
Yeah, this is all while I owned it.
And they approved it.
And now none of the, I think one of those commissioners is still in office.
So they all, you know, they all get their money and go do something else, whatever.
So now we're dealing with it.
All the homeowners have to sign this.
agreement that says
I understand there's a very loud
racetrack and I'm moving
next to it. I cannot sue them. I cannot
sue the owners.
Do you play good in terms
of the hours you operate?
Yeah. Yeah. We definitely try to be
respectful to our neighbors. Yeah. You're doing it right.
I mean, I can hear them from my house, you know,
but we just had top fuel there. So it's like
where they're putting these houses, it's going to
rattle their windows. Sure. It's a
you got the Oval Track and the DRAC and the DRAC.
strip? Yes, sir. I own 50% of the drag strip and then I own the oval myself. So why did you want
to buy that? Was that, were you looking for a place to operate and it just so happened to also
be a racetrack? And you're like, damn, that's kind of a bonus? Not, I wasn't really looking for
a racetrack. Where are you living in? Tampa. How did you get to Tampa? Well, the dragstrip.
Oh, I lived in Tampa because I went to the University of Tampa. So you moved from where you were born.
I said, I want, yep.
And went to college and you stayed.
I went to college in Tampa and stayed because, you know, you can do car stuff all year round.
Okay.
And so when did you find the track?
I found the track and two, well, the drag strip I just went to automatically when I moved to Florida.
So it was about an hour drive.
And when the YouTube stuff started getting, you know, busier and like, I'm sure you've seen the video where I got pulled over in the three truck.
Yeah.
That stuff was starting to get frowned upon by YouTube ads, you know, things like that.
that. What do you mean?
Yeah, like, if you go out on the street and just do straight illegal activities.
YouTube tries to.
It's kind of hard to not do it, you know, when you're doing the content that I do.
I was like, man, I need a playground, you know, and I was working with the dragstrip.
So YouTube will frown on that and try to, try to suppress your success on that.
If you're out just.
But that wasn't illegal.
You were, that truck was legal?
I guess.
Truck was street legal?
Yeah, to a point.
The guy didn't ticket you?
Yeah, he didn't take it.
No. But, like, it was just one of those things.
It's a bad look for all your sponsors and stuff.
And, you know, you don't want to hurt somebody, whatever.
So we, it didn't click at all, but this, the Soto had been sitting there for years, shut down because several reasons, bankruptcy a couple times, you know, a driver that passed away, things like that.
So I drove by, I mean, the place was a dump.
But one day, it clicked in my brain as I.
I started doing these burnout events called Cletus and Cars.
I was like, man, if you think about it, it's just a little stadium.
If it had a burnout pad in the middle, it would be a little burnout stadium.
So I called my best friends, Victor and Allen, and we got a hold of the owner.
And he basically named the price and wouldn't budge.
This guy was on it.
But it was $2.2 million.
He owner financed a million on it, which my last payment is this month.
You're still paying on it.
well, the owner finance part.
Yeah.
And then Alan loaned me like 400 grand.
You didn't have this money.
I didn't have the money.
And then I sold my Porsche TurboS that I had, 2011.
We just like sold everything we had, gathered it all up.
And I literally went to that closing with everything I had.
Damn it.
Every dollar I had.
And this was December 19.
And then COVID hit.
Yeah.
My master plan of having all my fans out to make some money really, really took a while.
Really crushed me.
Yeah.
So how did you, was it hard, I guess, to get through the next couple of years with having basically, you know.
I can tell you that, you know, that month, my IRS check bounced, my quarterly prepayment that I gave in December hit.
I didn't realize it hadn't left my account.
It hit like a week after closing,
and my bank went to negative $90,000 or whatever,
and then it bounced.
IRS is calling me.
I'm literally so stressed.
I thought I was sick.
And COVID's hitting, and I'm trying to gather it up.
You know, I'm trying to make payroll from my guys.
How many people you got?
At this point, I had three employees,
James Cooper and our merch grill,
trying to gather it up.
I'm trying to sell some T-shirts,
You know, because that YouTube check comes once a month.
You probably know that.
And trying to make it to the YouTube check.
We make it.
We're getting through there.
COVID literally hits as I'm gathering it up.
And I was laying in bed and I just really stressed out.
Just all-time low, honestly, rock bottom.
And I'm thinking, how are we going to buy some of these parts we want to put on Leroy to get him back going and whatever?
And I thought, what if I do a crowned valiant?
Vic race. I'll buy 20 Crown Vicks from state auction and we'll do a pay-per-view.
Where did the Crown Vic idea come from?
It just came to me in bed. And I just...
How are you going to get the money to go buy these crowns?
I called Alan, my business mentor. And I was like, brother, I need, you know, 20 grand or
whatever. How much was the Crown Vic? We got them. This is unbelievable. We, we averaged 900
bucks at the state of the... Holy shit. That's awesome. So me and J.H. and my buddy Chad
went to the state auction. And I don't know.
if Alan had to give me that 20 grand, I think I had got a YouTube check. I've always wondered where you get
20 Krow-Vix from. Yeah, we bought 20 that day. And we didn't put any, we didn't do anything to
them. They're on their tire, the same tires that came from the auction, we didn't change it. We didn't
check the fluids. Yeah. Some of my friends that I invited to this race, you know, I advertise,
I'm doing a race. And, you know, this is COVID was hitting. So, like, they're getting so much,
so much scrutiny from the town. Why? Oh, because you're going to have a race. They're like,
We're going to have more than 10 people on the property.
That was the law they had just set.
I thought I had COVID because I was so stressed out.
I was so scared of getting arrested and this and that.
And my dad also got some paperwork from an attorney that said they had to have a warrant to come on the property
because the sheriff was calling us telling us they're going to arrest me if I have more than 10 people on the property.
How are you able to, I mean, that was some weird rule they had in place?
You guys didn't have, when COVID hit, you were only allowed 10 people.
I got you.
No, yeah, I mean, I'd never heard of that.
But I believe you.
You guys didn't get that?
No.
Oh, in Florida, it was like 10 people per property or something.
Damn.
Okay.
So, but it was like 10 people per acre.
But we had 40 acres.
So I'm like, all right, so we had to spread out and we had to make it look good on camera.
Because if you remember, like, people were losing their minds.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
People were calling me like Cletus COVID super spreader and stuff.
It was, and I didn't really know what to think because I didn't know if COVID was real or not.
I was kind of terrified that I was going to go to prison for this deal.
So, anyway, we hosted the first ever Freedom 500 that night.
And they initiated the lockdowns for the day of my race, the local town did.
So we moved it up a day.
And whatever, we got all my friends show up.
Some of them even flew from California on a plane with like,
one person on it. This is like literally when COVID was going down. Yeah. And we hosted the race and
I had no idea if it was sticking or not, if they even had the stream up, if the website was holding
anything. I didn't know. Alan was just radioing me from the car, kind of telling me things are okay.
I guess the stream was pretty botched, but my fans were like, it was the most pleased thing ever.
So I get out of the car and I've also, I don't think I've ever said this online before ever, but
I get out of the car, and I'm thinking it was, there was probably 5,000, 10,000 people on or something, and I actually won their race.
Yeah.
And I get out of the car and I run over down.
I go, did the stream stay up, you know?
And I'm getting chill saying it.
I go to the stream stay up, and he goes, Garrett, there were 75,000 people on the stream.
And I was just, I remember just like being so mind-blown that we had just.
made a monumental amount of money
and successfully like saved
what I thought was all crashing down in that moment
and I didn't get all that money
because we partnered with the stream company and stuff
so like you know some mistakes made there
but like what an amazing
feeling to go from like rock bottom
to like we actually pulled off this
this Freedom 500
damn really uh really one of the
probably
best moments of my life, I would say.
Since then, you've had this race multiple times.
You have it annually.
Yep.
And it's grown into something that, you know, it's kind of, I don't know if you know this,
but it's kind of become a common knowledge in our industry.
Yeah, I was curious if you knew about it.
Oh, yeah.
I have reached out, you know, through a lot of avenues.
Obviously, to try to get you to raise.
I'm sure you've been hit up about it.
So it's become fun.
We do the Freedom 500 in April, and then we do the End.
80 800 in May.
What's the Indy 800?
It's Luke Soil Raceway.
We go to Indy.
You go to Indy.
You go to a different?
We take all the Crown Vicks to Indy.
Oh.
Where?
Lucasoil.
Luke Soil Raceway?
Oh, yeah.
So we had Tony Stewart race the last one.
Yeah.
And then we take the Crown Vix up to Stafford Speedway in Connecticut.
We did Bristol.
We're not doing Bristol this year.
And then we do lay mullets back at my track again at the end of the year.
It's like the kidney bean shape.
So you run the front straight.
and then you come into the infield and then back row.
What cars? The Vicks?
Same Crown Vicks all year.
So these are your cars?
Yeah. I own them all and all the drivers show up.
It's zero pressure.
I don't even care if they post about it.
All my buddies post about it because they're just great people.
But like, you know, when we have celebrities on, you know, great guys like you or Greg Biffle,
like it's literally zero pressure.
As long as we can say you're on the driver's list, that's all I need.
I'm not going to put out an ad that says, you know, Greg Biffle's coming to the Freedom
500.
We just have them out.
They get in the car.
They can have their fun.
They can wot it up and leave.
But it's not a demolition derby.
It's just if you do wot it up, don't feel bad about it.
It's just their crown vicks.
You share a car?
Lay Mullets, you share a car.
The rest of the season, it's all one driver per rome.
It's pretty interesting.
The track, you've had to do maintenance on this track.
Yeah.
It was wore out, bust it up when you got it.
Exactly.
So the pay-per-view money, I mean, I don't think I've ever pocketed from the pay-per-view.
It has all gone back into the program and the racetrack.
The lights alone were $440,000 to do lights and poles.
The bleachers were upwards of $350,000.
And I have just spent all the money we get from the pay-per-view basically ever since just building the track and now the drags trip.
How close do you live to that?
Five miles.
You now have
super late model races there.
Yes, sir.
Like it's...
Yeah, it's ripping.
Rippin.
It's rippin.
What is that experience like for you
to have a traveling, touring division come
to your racetrack and do something completely
unique to like the content you're creating?
This is a...
I always looked at that racetrack is like,
that's your workshop.
Yep.
And that if all you did there was what you do,
and your Crown Vix and all that stuff,
that would be the sole purpose of the property.
Yeah.
But now you've introduced true touring racing with Super.
So what?
The track can absolutely self-sustain with just our events.
Yep.
But I love the motorsport industry, you know,
and like I want Circle Track racing to thrive.
Is there just, is that super late model race
the only one you have right now?
No, I mean, just this weekend.
How many?
Just his weekend while I was racing Arco,
we had Crown Vicks race.
and
I guess sportsmen's
and...
So there's some local
classes that compete?
Yeah, but we don't do
like a weekly
program.
At the drag strip we do
weekly testing tunes,
but...
What does the Oval do?
The Oval runs,
we do like tour of destruction.
We do...
Have you heard of the Bigley?
No.
Okay, we do the Bigley,
which is a big race on Thanksgiving
with late models
and all kinds of stuff.
I mean, there's like 90 cars.
It's awesome.
So we've allowed some really good
outside for motors to come in and rent the track.
It's more of a partnership.
They buy the track for the weekend.
It's a partnership.
Yep.
So we still run in front of the house and stuff.
We just let them handle the race because, you know, the moment.
How is those, how many, I guess that's been going on for just a couple years now?
Yeah, we didn't really start, we didn't open the track, start doing that stuff until about
two years ago.
We were trying to drift in and some other stuff.
And how have you enjoyed doing those things?
Does it help hurt?
Is it?
Like, just have.
them there? Yeah. I mean, they definitely make
some money and they bring new
people to the track because some people don't
care for my stuff. You know, they don't care for the
Crown Vic kind of
thrill show. They want to see real racing.
So it's great to have the real racers
come out and they also
offer opinions on the track repair some things like that
which is nice. It
makes the back of the pits
busier and it just
I think it helps the industry and
I think it's great. You know, it
definitely helps us. Work
great for us. What does your wife think about all this?
You know, my wife's been very supportive of it all. She's been around.
She, she, uh, her and I started dating after I started my YouTube channel, but before the track.
Yep. So when I wanted to do the track deal, she, she, we were just dating, so she didn't know
how deep in the finances I was. Yeah. I've taken her down to zero, you know, I've taken my stuff
down to zero twice and, uh, she, she's, she was cool though. She bought me dinner when I,
I was when the bank account was negative and stuff,
and she's just always been there for me.
Yeah.
She knows I'll figure it out.
So let's talk about, I guess let's bring this to racing in the ARCA series.
You know, you've done, you did the Crown Vic races at Bristol, and I guess from my
perspective, seeing you do that, I was, that was kind of the first time where I was like,
I bet this guy starts trying to.
to do some legitimate racing.
Yeah.
I bet you, I bet I could tell your gears returning in your head and you're like,
I want, I want to really get in real, you know, I want to get in a real competitive
competition environment.
Yeah.
Outside of what you had created for yourself.
Yeah.
I mean, we, we compete really well on track racing.
So that's always been fun.
And, uh, circle track, the crown vicks are great.
But I was like, man, talking to Georgia, I was like, we should go race NASCAR.
Yeah.
How freaking cool would that be?
And it just so happened that I met Greg Biffle earlier this year due to a software issue,
you know, at Southwest.
Like one of my racers, Brad DeBurdy, couldn't come because of that software outage.
And then he called me.
He was like, hey, do you know who Greg Biffle is?
Does that kind of do?
And then Greg and I met, and he's just the greatest guy ever.
And then that's how I got my door into NASCAR.
Yeah.
I figured let's try this ARCA thing out.
And now my mind is blown.
Had you done anything in motorsport?
beyond that, outside of what you, you know, what we've seen with your Crown Vicks and drag racing
and all that? I mean, so.
You ran a model race anywhere?
No, I ran sportsmen's, but I've done at my track.
Yeah.
What's your sportsman car looks like?
I just rented one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
But it's like a, it's like a late model, late model, I think, just a different engine and stuff.
They're a little slower, yeah.
Yeah.
But I've done, I raced on dirt at Bristol.
Yeah.
I drove a late model at Bristol on dirt for a few laps.
Yes.
I remember that.
with the hunt in the front and then I've done uh I used to do autocross when I was younger
what is that auto cross is like cones in a parking lot yes you know that's just fun stuff and I've
done I've competed in drifting you know drag racing obviously there's no turning it's pretty simple
driving but I've just done a number of random different automotive things yeah and so yeah this is
definitely the most serious and so when real when did the when did the conversation turn
turn real? Well, I head up the Biff, Mr. The Biff, I said, brother, how do I get in a nap?
Like, I want to race to the Daytona 500 is what I told him. He's like, you got to start an ARCA.
And I mean, this is the first time I've ever heard ARCA. To be honest with you, I have
been watching NASCAR race in five years unless I was at the race cheering out my buddy Alex
Bowman. Got you. You know, just drinking beer with my sleeves cut off.
Alice has come out to your place and done some of the stuff. Yeah. Run your Crown Vicks or
something. Yes, sir, yeah. And Greg kind of explained a little bit to me. He said there's this
Arka series, it's where you got to start.
And we went and visited a team, tried to sit in some cars.
I don't fit in a Gen 4 ARCA car.
So then we had to find a Gen 5 Arcad Car with the Red Jones racing dudes.
And then they were like, I guess their driver fell through or something.
And Bowman calls me and says, hey, this team I know, they got some fast stuff.
So I flew up.
I fit in their car.
And then they told me the pricing.
I got it, you know, sponsored and stuff.
And I said, let's do Daytona.
Now is that.
Now we're just doing it.
Yep.
You went to the test.
All right.
Went to the test, yeah.
So that climbing into the car to run the laps at the test are your first laps.
Yep.
Describe your emotions.
Well, I can tell you when I got on that back straight and, you know, went into third
and then fourth, and they, you know, Viffel told me to stay wide open.
He's like, you don't have to lift, you know.
I was like, damn, this is awesome.
And, you know, when that thing is singing,
7,400, 7,500.
That baby's singing, and it's just a sick feeling.
You're just bombing out.
You know, and your spotter's talking to you.
I'm like, it's the coolest thing I've ever seen.
It was unbelievable.
And that feeling was incredible, man.
I can't really...
I remember when my dad took me to Talladega,
I had ran some short track stuff at Myrtle Beach
and a little half-mile bullring stuff like your track.
Yeah.
Dad's like, get your helmet and your suit and get on the plane in the morning,
and it's going to bring you to Talladega.
He was down there testing.
But I didn't know what I was going to do, but I had an idea.
But pull it out on a racetrack, and I'm going down the back straightaway.
And he told me, he's like, got to hold it wide open.
You got to hold it wide open.
If you lifted, you were going to burn the piston the way they had to jetted back then with those engines.
And so he made me scared to lift, right?
I was going down the back straight away, and I just was like, I don't know how it sticks.
Like I'm looking at the turn three way out in front of me going that way and I'm like, how does it stay?
You know?
Yeah.
That's what I'm thinking of my mind.
I'm like, and you go in the corner and it's like, oh, yeah, okay, this makes sense.
Yeah, when it's pressing you down.
Yes.
And your whole body is, I remember in the test, I felt like I ran two miles after four laps because my whole body was just flexed.
Yes.
You know, and I'm just in there with my big old neck getting bent over.
Yeah.
You run the first handful of laps with like every muscle.
your body tense.
Just flexed.
Just flexed.
And when I would go to Atlanta, even 20 years into my career, like I still ran the first
five or ten laps at Atlanta like that.
And I would, I'd run five or ten laps on Thursday or Friday morning in Atlanta, slow down
to come to pit road and my hands hurt because I'd hold the wheel so hard and I had no clue,
you know, and you're like, God, bang.
Yeah, it's a feeling that's like really no other.
It is.
I think I've experienced almost every motor sport.
I'm getting close.
I've probably done 75% of them or something.
I've done sprint boats and helicopters and you name it.
I would say that ripping Daytona is like a significant step above all other driving experiences I've had.
When you get into the race and I'm sure like everything's coming at you a million miles an hour.
and trying to understand, like, the draft.
And I'm sure that in your mind you have a concept with things that you've done in the past, silly stuff.
Like, I think, I always tell people when drivers are going out to Daytona stuff,
I describe the draft as like a wake of a boat, but it's coming off the nose of the car instead of the back of the boat, right?
Yeah.
And so the following, the car in front is making a wake.
And so, I mean, I'm sure why you're out there racing, like you're computing all of this stuff coming at you.
I was trying to see that.
Yeah, you're like, oh, God, I'm learning this.
I think that's working.
I think that's happening.
And I think I understand why that did that.
And so talk about, I guess, I really am curious as to understanding, like, as you're
going through that process of being in the draft and trying to, like, be.
You're excited.
You're trying to learn.
You know, you need to be a little patient.
But.
And I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to, you know, I'm trying to.
God, dang, man.
You know, we got a lot riding on it.
The whole team's side of my grandmas are there.
You must have been, like, your mind must.
have been in like a rubber band going back and forth between like how excited you were,
but also like how calm you needed to stay, right?
Yeah, and I got so much great advice from Greg and the team and Max and my car sucked up good,
so I had some room to get off the guys and then if I wanted to, I could just drive right up
into them.
So I was really happy about that, but computing was definitely a factor because the cars were moving
so much around me.
Dude, you were talking about that in the car during the stream where I was watching this car.
There was early in the race or I don't know when it was, but there was a car in front of you.
The driver was just not very good at the, they were just, they were chasing the car in front
of them.
I think people are so tense.
Yeah.
One of the things, this happens on Sim Racing online too, is you're trying to draft the car in front of you and you,
and you chase it.
If that car moves, you go,
and it ends up looking like this little snake.
And the car, they look terrible because they're not.
They just need to,
it's okay to be a little offset here and there
as the, as the lap is happening.
It's just hold the wheel.
Yeah.
And the guy in front of you,
it was making me nervous.
Yeah, I was nervous about that.
Yeah.
I don't know if it's my car was just different.
But like, I just held my steering wheel straight,
and that thing drove straight.
It looked like the person in front of you was having a hard time.
Yeah.
I was wondering how you were.
I was getting, you know,
Even I was looking out my door and like...
That was right before you got clipped off a four.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which was wild.
That car you're speaking of is ultimately what took me out.
But like even there was someone outside of me and I'm just watching them close it to one foot.
Back to four, one foot.
And I'm like, damn.
Hold the damn wheel.
Like this is kind of, this isn't ideal.
Do you think back like when you're, you know, hindsight's, you know, one thing, but do you think like, damn, I knew I should have got out of there?
Absolutely.
I've been thinking about that after last few days.
You'll never forget it.
I knew when she, you know, that she was, her tire was smoking,
and she was going into one and two bombing out, and I'm just,
I was just chasing it right up in there.
What the hell was I doing?
I should have just stopped and waited for the caution because we knew it was coming.
But, you know, who knows it could have been freaking oil dripping on the header,
and that was the smoke.
So I just went up in there, and I think that's just my experience, the foolishness to just go,
because I'm like, I can't get any farther behind the pack than this, you know.
I don't want to lose.
Right, yeah, you lose the grass.
No, I thought that was, I listened to your post-traced interview and I appreciated you saying, I was inexperienced. And, you know, like I, I like people that are honest about certain things like that. You've got to be you and you were, right, in that moment. But you also gave us a human moment when you said, that would have been better had I had more experience. Next time I will, you know, next time I will, I will have that experience.
I try to always have that, like, factor of, because I am an experience in most of the sports I do, and you just can't be good at this by doing it.
It's like being a pilot.
You can't be good at it unless you've just done it a lot.
I'd be a fool to say, everyone's like, Cleet, you need a cup ride.
I'm like, brother, I'd be a fool to go race with them, you know, right away, because I just don't have the experience to do it.
They would walk all over.
I know it's early.
because you're probably still
processing the financials and all that stuff
but
when it's all said and done
is this was this
I know you had fun
I know you enjoyed it and I know
the content that you create around
it's probably going to be
it's crushing
it's probably going to measure all the things you know
that you're going to do everything you want
when it's
you know racing's expensive
sure is
when you close the door on Daytona
are you eager
and excited to try to recreate another opportunity.
You talked about going to Talladega.
Yeah, I'm going to Dega.
You're going to Dega.
You're going to figure it out.
You're going to figure out how to get there.
We're good for Dega.
You're good for Dega.
And we're actually building some content around it on the YouTube channel.
That'll cover it.
So we're going to see you race again this year.
Yeah, should I say what we're doing for Dega?
Okay.
Oh, son of me.
We don't get everything.
We're going to Dega.
So, and I don't know, man, it's like, if part of me wants to jump, don't even wrong, there's some good drivers in ARCA.
I really think there's some great drivers.
But with all the crashing, it's like, it's all everyone talks about is, oh, I got a 50% chance of finishing because ARCA is so crazy.
Yeah.
Well, let me tell you this.
I don't know where you're going, but in the trucks in Extinity, I think it's 80%.
It's as bad.
It's worse.
So that's a factor.
I've been thinking about is like, how will this pan out for my viewers if I can never finish a race
and me? I don't know how I'll feel after. That's the risk you take. If I wreck out in Dago.
And Dago, I mean, Dayton and Daga are going to have that high, they got the high risk.
And it's not, there's nowhere you can go in terms of a different series to escape it, I don't believe.
Well, Talladega is wider, so hopefully that'll be better. But I love the super speedways.
It's like there's something that attracts me to them. So that's why I want to race them.
They're also the ones you crash the most out.
So I don't know what to do on that front.
I would just go to Daga and try to hope for a better result.
That's what I was thinking.
Do you think that you would do other races, though?
Do you think, I mean, you know, because.
Yeah, I don't know, man.
It's like if I, if I do.
So get your Arca Car or any, or any Arca Car, for that matter,
and take it over to your racetrack and just cut laps.
Yeah.
And go and cut enough laps.
You know, it would probably take you a week, and you'd be like, I think I'm, I think I've found the limit.
Mm-hmm.
And then you'll go, you can go run these short tracks with these guys.
I know.
Well, there's a factor for me, too, that the short tracks for pulling in viewership, too, you know, like Taledega.
Oh, I know.
Everyone's watching that.
But everybody would watch you.
So I got a mentally way that, you know, I got it sometimes.
I would watch you run Taledega, but I would, I think I would be just as excited to see you go run, you know, Winchester.
Well, there's, you know what, there's really no risk.
me finding out if my fans are into that.
Well, I'm thinking.
They'll tell me.
They'll say, we don't need to short track.
So you're going to get in a tricky spot where you're going to have to manage.
I think I'm already in it.
You're going to have to manage the, you're going to have to manage at some point, like the business decision.
Yeah.
Right?
Of like, I, am I a race car driver?
Yeah.
Or what do I want to be here?
What am I trying to freaking?
Yes.
but I mean you probably already
you've got a handle of that I
imagine because of what you're doing and other things
I always I almost forget that you
drag race that you got the airplane that you
do all these other things I'm like
I see you like singularly
as this guy that owns this racetrack and races
and cars and runs and circles
which I get you know that's the stuff that
creeps into your world a little bit
so you're not just that that's like a tenth of you
our best performing videos have nothing
to do with competition racing
well you're going to get
You got the bug.
I got the bug bad, though.
Right.
I'm fired up to go super speedway racing.
That stuff is badass.
Well, if you can, if that's what it is, that's what it is.
And you run two, three races a year.
It's Daytona and Talladega and that's the content you make and you get your scratch your itch.
Yeah, and that might scratch my itch or I might do good in Talladega and say,
screw it I'm running the season.
I really don't know.
Yeah.
It's just.
It's doable.
It's a beauty of being a YouTuber.
is we really can kind of, we can wait and just pivot whenever we want.
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I want to ask you, too, about your relationship with Greg and your experience,
and I know you shared this on some other shows too, about helping in western North Carolina.
Yeah.
When did you and Greg connect?
So.
Originally.
Yeah, Microsoft outage caused Brad DeBurdy to not make it to the.
And Greg comes to your race.
Stafford race.
How did that get y'all together in Carolina?
So Greg came to the race.
We talked briefly a couple minutes before the race, and then he rolled out right after.
So that was like our whole interaction.
I got to ask you, what happens after the race?
After the Vic race at DeSota.
or at the freedom.
Usually.
Tell me.
Usually we tear it up in the pits.
How late?
I don't go as late as I used to because I go home because the next day is really the one I got to work at.
Because we do the burnout show the day after.
Well, that's a problem.
You got to have, no.
You don't need nothing going on the next day.
I know, I know.
Put the burnout show the day before the dick race.
We're thinking about changing up the schedule a little bit.
If I'm coming all the way to Florida,
going to want to hang out and drink some beer.
Dale, if you come to the Free of 500, which by the way, it's April 4th and you have an invite,
we'll build you a car brand.
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So I just need you to tell me yes or no after this or whatever.
But if you come, I won't even sleep.
Oh, right.
I'll stay awake until the next day.
That's a guarantee.
If you, listen to this, if you come to the Freedom 500, I won't wear sleeves for a month.
I couldn't believe.
I couldn't.
I'll cut them off.
They're gone for a month.
I couldn't believe Greg left.
I was like, you go all the way down there and you don't hang out because I know Greg would have a couple cold beers.
He was racing at that other race in limestones.
Lime rock.
That's where he goes.
If I come down there, I'm going to have so much adrenaline.
I'm being like crushing beers after.
I'm telling you, it's going to be some of the most fun you've ever had.
It's so fun because it's not a lot of pressure.
And you're just having a damn good time.
Yeah.
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Sorry, we got off on that.
Yeah.
So how did you and Greg reconnect?
So literally I get a call from a helicopter buddy.
He said, hey, man, like I tried to get into these mountains.
I guess there's a lot going on.
I couldn't get in because of the weather, but tomorrow they're saying they need help.
My wife and I were taking the helicopter.
We just rebuilt to dinner.
We bought it from Venezuela.
I don't know if you know a story.
That blue MD 500 I have.
I bought it from Venezuela.
Hadn't flown in 10 years.
We fully rebuilt it on the channel.
And just got it done.
It had like five hours on it or something.
So I'm still doing the real thorough pre-flights on it, getting it.
But she's running good.
Yeah.
How did you get a license?
I've already had my license.
So I got my license in 2020.
Yeah.
Just because I have, I've always loved helicopters.
I was making videos with them when I was a kid, you know?
Yep.
And now that I had a little bit of money, I said, I'm getting me a helicopter.
Yep.
So the MD was just a new project.
I already had a helicopter.
So we, I say to Maddie, I go, hey, like, this is a call I just got.
She's giving me the look, which you know, you have a wife, the look of you're about to leave home for a while.
A couple days, yeah.
And I just said, wow, you come with me.
Let's go to dinner in North Carolina because it's only four hours to get to you guys in a helicopter that is fast, which is what we got.
So we flew up and as I have any fuel stops.
None?
I think just one.
Just one fuel stop in that thing.
If you're flying four hours, what's your altitude?
We're flying about maybe 500 to 1,000 AGL above the ground.
Just chilling.
Unless there's a huge tailwind, I won't really go up high.
Gotcha.
But we're cruising in, you know, and all of a sudden I'm like, there's no power.
I'm like, it's black because it's nighttime now.
Oh, shoot.
I'm like, it is black.
And I made a post of my helicopter.
here at the fuel station or even on my pad at home or whatever and I said head to North Carolina
to see what's going on and when we landed had like 10,000 shares and I'm like what and my phone
is exploding with my friend saying I can't get a hold of my grandparents in Nashville or whatever
I'm like what the heck and then so we're flying and I'm like and Biffel texts me too and he only has
my phone number because of their race
Yeah.
But we'd only talk for two minutes, whatever.
He says, hey, if you want to come stay at the house, that's fine.
I said, no, don't worry.
I already booked the hotel.
And I was just going to land at the hotel or whatever in the parking lot next to it or something.
Because it's, you know, these crisis situations, you kind of get off the hook on where you land in your helicopters and whatnot.
Well, the power's out in the whole Greenville area.
Like, imagine you're rolling in and all the lights stop.
And I didn't expect that.
So I had to call Biffle because the hotels were closed.
And I go land in his yard.
Lake Norman.
Or actually, I think I landed at Statesville that night, but then his yard the next night.
And we just got dinner, made a game plan.
This is him and I hanging out for the first time, essentially.
Ever.
And I just, I realized in that moment that this dude is selfless.
He's a guy that's willing to help people and go out of his way.
We didn't know what we were getting into in the morning.
I had put out my email, and I had probably 1,000 emails.
My wife and I went through him systematically.
marked them down on our foreflight.
And in the morning, we took off with water bottles that Greg had,
filled to the roof in the back of the helicopter,
went in under this little cloud layer,
and we're just blown away at the damage that we saw.
We immediately stopped, helped some people, dropped off the water,
pulled some people out, got back in town,
and I'm like, where were there cell service?
And I just started calling people, got more helicopters,
and we just flew all day.
the next couple days just helping people.
I guess what you said about Greg being selfless.
None of us knew that about Greg until recently.
Yeah.
When your competitors on the track,
you think of each other is very selfish.
Yeah.
And, you know, God, you know, I like Greg,
but, you know, he's, we race against you.
The jerks.
Yep.
But we've learned just what kind of person he truly is down in the gut.
Yeah.
But I wondered, I guess, how dangerous that must have been for you all to be flying.
Well, I know you probably want to downplay it, but.
It's the most dangerous flying you can do.
Yeah.
And over the course of the days as more and more and more helicopters showed up, right?
You guys are all.
Bad weather.
Yeah.
Flying all around each other and just any terribly hilly conditions.
Incredible about that, too, is that there was zero GA general aviation accidents and the whole thing.
How?
I don't understand.
That blows my mind.
How much traffic control did you have, if at all?
Just in the vicinity of the airport.
Right.
That's it.
And once you left that area.
Once you're four miles out, you're on your own.
Now, my helicopter has traffic systems in it, but not everybody does.
Right.
And also, too, a lot of guys are in low-powered helicopter.
right in a race car you run out of horsepower you just stop at that speed when you in a helicopter
you run out of horsepower the rotor slows down you know so that was scary enough seeing these
low-powered piston helicopters around but brother nobody wadded one up i cannot when i left there
was like 70 helicopters there and i thought there's no way there's no way there won't be an
article later this week about one going down there's just no way somehow all the pilots just did a
job and they're they're all it's amazing but like you said the dangerous flying i mean when you're hovering
high above the ground like to say there's a bunch of trees you got to go right down on it that is the
most vulnerable position you can be in in a helicopter and we did it so many times and then we're just
pulling people out you know so then you're going out heavy right and when you have high performance
helicopter it's fine but like if anything goes wrong you're toast there's fine there's fine
everywhere like there's just debris and stuff flying everywhere yeah it was a recipe for disaster but
i don't know if god was on our sides for all these pilots or what but it's i think it's a miracle
that no one wanted one up yeah it's a it's emotional just to think about it because of the the um
obviously it was a terrible position for everybody to be in that was that was there the property owners
and the families that were struggling with all of the things that they were dealing with
but then for you guys to go in and risk yourselves and everything uh you're blind to it
it doesn't you're totally blind to it i can't even comprehend when you when you pass over a spot
and there's people on the ground waving their arms you're motivated you are you the risk is gone yeah
it doesn't even cross your brain and it's just how do you um it's just up to you and your skill
at that point i guess how do you knowing that the job is never done
right?
Yeah.
How do you make the decision to leave?
So when we got back to the airport, Matt from Operation Hilo, I said, you know, we had already
been doing it for a few days.
And we left for dinner.
We were going to come back to that night.
You know, Maddie's mom, bless her heart, Susie.
Shout Susie.
She was watching our kids.
And, you know, then it turned into a two, three day thing.
So she's skipping work to watch the kids.
Oh, yeah, back home.
Yeah.
And so we really.
had to kind of get home and I said, Matt, is there any, like, calls right now that are, like,
people have to, you know, it's critical. Because we've been hauling insulin around and stuff and
he just didn't have any that were like, this has to happen right now. So that's when, when all
those calls seem to subside, we decided to go home. Yeah. It was a sad ride home in some ways.
Was there a specific experience with an individual or a particular specific flight that was
one that was touching?
I think there's a couple
and I'll try not to get choked up
because when I talk about it I do
but maybe it'll be fine right now
it's Cattail Creek
is a spot out there
and man those guys just got drugged down so bad
and we were the first people
they had seen and I remember all the people
at the fire station when we landed
like we were the first people they had seen since
I think it happened a Friday morning and we were there
Sunday
and
they asked
me to go up and look at some of these houses and see if there's people on the porch or whatever.
And I remember flying and there just wasn't any houses.
And those moments were hard, man.
Like it was sad.
But we just continued to help people and it was okay.
You know, like we just did what we could.
And I think it was pretty cool working with some of the people that really busted their butts to help others up the hill.
Like I remember when we landed, I asked a guy to go clear.
more space because I had just landed in a spot that was like so tight and I'm like guys I know
like they were putting in X's on the road we landed it was so freaking tight and uh I said brother
go open up a spot up the hill I came back to this guy had cut down like a square acre
I was like how this guy do this in and out you know people were going above and beyond because
it was a literal life or death situation and it was uh
That's just one of the many crazy things we saw.
How many times do people come up to you today to tell you thanks because of some connection to a direct member of their family that you had encountered or helped?
That's got to be pretty incredible.
I know it has to happen.
Yeah, there's been a few, definitely a lot of, you know, indirect, a few direct.
like we were on the news in Miami for picking these, you know, just a Florida couple up, you know,
that was on their vacation home and, you know, random stuff.
But I've never done anything in my life that I've been thanked so much for.
And then the North Carolina helicopter flying, which is for sure not our intention.
We didn't go there for this.
And, you know, Greg and I talk about it all the time.
Like, it is mind-blowing that it's still today.
Like, even at Daytona, it's so many people came up to Greg and I and said that.
Yeah.
We obviously appreciate everyone's thank yous,
but helicopter pilots will fly for any reason, pretty much.
Like, if my neighbor's dog is missing, I'll probably fly because I just love to get it out.
Yeah.
You know, so we'll do it.
And especially if we get a mission where we can help people, like any of us pilots,
I think I speak for all helicopter pilots.
We just love flying.
Yeah.
So no thank you needed.
We'll do it again in the heartbeat.
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Well, outside of all of that, man, I have really enjoyed talking to you.
I want to know, I guess, you know, you're not, you don't,
we talked about your racing and kind of where you want to go,
with the arcadile, and that's, you know, that's the near term.
You've built this, you've built this persona.
Yeah.
Right?
On your, on your channel.
Certainly there's got to be a big vision beyond YouTube, beyond what you're creating today.
Or is that where you want to be?
Is that where you want to live?
I don't know.
I want to buy Daytona Speedway.
The whole radio.
Yeah, I want to build my house inside it.
All my buddies.
I don't want to tell you that's unrealistic because I don't think that you have any,
you don't have any limitations.
That's not my ultimate life, Paul, it's just one of them.
I think our visions are big.
I don't know where we're going to go.
But we're just having so much fun and trying to bring as many people with as possible.
You see yourself in network television.
Do you see yourself?
What is the?
TV I definitely don't like.
Don't like.
I don't mind being, like the Foxy.
I did last week was perfect.
But, you know, TV is like, there's so many moving parts.
Limitations.
It's so slow.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So, I don't know.
Maybe that's, maybe you don't need to be there.
Maybe where you're at is where you're supposed to be.
Yeah.
Because you have all that freedom.
Yeah, exactly.
They put it intended.
Yeah.
You know, that was one of the, I had a couple questions I wanted to ask you to, you know.
Yeah.
Let me just pull them up so I don't.
I love it.
This is rare.
Nobody ever has any questions.
me. All right. What is the best piece of advice you could give someone entering NASCAR on the
driving side? On the driving side. Don't do what you don't know. So, specifically when you go to
Dayton and Talladega, when you're going down the back straightaway and you're unsure about
what to do next, sit still. Slow down. Just sit still. You don't have to slow down.
Just don't do what you don't know.
Don't.
There needs to be a purpose and a reason for every choice you make.
When you race around the racetrack in the pack,
you're making multiple thousands of choices every foot, right?
You know, you're always thinking and always wondering
whether I'm in the right line or should I get behind this car or whatever, right?
And so if you're absolutely in the least amount unsure, sit still.
and the race
there's a million variables
that are going to play out
over the next mile
and the next 50 miles
and that choice
to sit still is so insignificant
right in the finish
so if you're unsure
don't do what you don't know
just sit still
wait and learn
and then eventually like the right choice
and the right thing that you might need to do
will be obvious
and you'll
go, damn, I'm glad I sat still for a minute because now I'm able to choose this.
Got it.
Right?
And so there's a, if you, you know, when we watch it, we talked about it on the show yesterday,
a lot of the guys, they get to reckon going down the back straightaway on the last lap.
And they don't even give themselves a chance to get around to the finish because of the choice
they made in that moment.
And so some drivers, um, then he didn't even.
Hamlin in one particular race
comes off a turn
two leading the race, Daytona 500,
there's two cars coming. They're
eight, six, eight miles an hour faster than him.
He knows he can't block them.
So he doesn't throw a block
because he knows it's going to be a crash.
And he lets them go by.
And he drives on to the tail
of the second car as it passes.
And he creates a run around
three and four that eventually puts in
position to win the Daytona 500 at the
finish line. And he wins it.
Genius.
genius patience and so a lot of people want to be active and doing and doing and doing and trying
to always make something happen and in those races and specifically I'm just sharing with you about
Daytona Taleda because that's what you're going to focus on for a while a lot of times just sitting
and waiting because don't do what you don't know don't do something unless you really know why
you're doing it and the draft is important and it plays a role in you know the choices you're
you make and I would probably just say I know that sounds boring and not as fun but
SVG you know who SVG shame I do he's from Australia race road courses this whole life never
ran at Dayton and Talladega before but he will finish in the top 10 often in our Xfinity races
because he sits still and he's he's not making problems creating problems he's not doing something
he knows nothing about and he's learning and letting other people make the mistakes around him.
I know that what you need to do is create moments because that's important to what you do with your
channel and your content. You'll get those opportunities, right, if you are patient in racing,
right? What's going to get the best views, right? You being in the, you being in the,
mix in the picture when the cars crossed the finish line you being one of those cars in that
photo right so that's how you got to you got to make sure you can get to that point right and if you had
you know not that you did anything wrong in that race you're a victim of circumstance but you know
that's what you prefer right to be in the picture okay and so yeah I think and after about two years
of running Daytona and Talladega consistently you'll be able to really turn it loose because then
the, you'll start to understand the draft and you'll start to know, okay, this is how this works.
Okay. Can I add two follow-up questions to that? Yeah.
What would you have done in my position if you had already driven in that far and a car was
spinning in front of you? If I remember correctly, you went. I tried to go high.
High. But she was low at first. Yeah. So. Just all breaks? No, probably don't have enough
brakes. I didn't. The closure rate was too bad. Yeah, the car.
won't stop like a cup car has better brakes but your car so the it's tough to do because um
this is hard to articulate but what when you drive the car you've you've you've rode in enough
machines right to know um you i think you you it should come to you pretty quickly like if you come up on a
situation where a car's out of control, knowing the weight of the car, the speed it's going,
whatever the scenario is with the terrain, the banking of a corner or a flat space, right?
Yeah.
Your mind is going to tell you where that car should go physics-wise, right?
Yeah, where the energy should send it.
And I think, you know, given the opportunity to be in that situation two, three, four more
times, you're going to make the right choice because you're going to go.
So, yep, this car is going up.
Yeah.
I can tell.
I should have known.
But it's okay.
You know, when one of the, we go to Dover, and it's a self-cleaning racetrack.
It's so banked.
Anytime a car hits the outside wall, it comes down.
It's going down a hill into the inside wall.
And sometimes that's not always an obvious thing to remember when you're going around the track.
And so you come up on an accident, it's not always obvious to you which way to go.
I drove left and followed that car careening off the wall down the hill into the wall.
I followed it right up.
That happens.
It just happens.
But I think over time when you're in those situations a few more times, you'll start to
understand, all right, the energy should take this car this way.
And I think choosing this direction is going to be the route.
Okay.
I appreciate that.
One more on that then would be it's not when, or it's not if, it's when.
what's the best way to handle yourself if you wreck somebody and ruin their day?
What do you think is the best way to handle that is?
Your race continues?
No, like if I screwed up and just totally whacked two cars and take out half the field,
what's the best way to handle it?
I would get out of the car and I would say,
I made a mistake.
That was my fault.
I'm owning it
if you truly believe that, right?
I would get out of the car and go,
yeah, man, I mean, because people can see it, right?
And maybe not a casual fan,
but industry people can see it,
like other drivers, other owners that have been around a sport,
can go, I don't know what happened right there.
So don't tell me anything otherwise, right?
Get out and say, hey, that was a bad choice I made,
or, you know, I lost control of the car
and, you know, it ruined their day.
And that's all you can do, I think, is just kind of own it.
You know, you can go take it a step further and try to help that team if they're a small team or whatever.
You know, you can try to help them get their car back together and do some things on the back end that might be supportive.
Yeah.
So I wrecked somebody once and I was like, damn, I was, I caused a wreck and they got into it accidentally.
They were collateral damage and you feel like a complete.
Yeah.
And, you know, if you can make it right outside of admitting the fault, you know, you do whatever you can.
Okay.
Yeah.
I like that.
All right.
Best piece of advice you give someone entering NASCAR on the business side.
You can spend a lot of money really quick, right?
And it's not always necessary.
I would get second opinions, third opinions on, you know, if you're getting quoted for an expense, no matter what it is, I would absolutely be calling around.
and saying, hey, is this a fair price?
Does this sound about right?
Unfortunately, I think for a lot of people to be involved in racing,
it comes with a cost that they have to share.
They have to shoulder, right?
For you to run that car, you had to find the partners to invest in it, right,
and help you get there.
But you can call Greg Biffel or you can now call me and go,
hey, this is what they quoted me for that race.
Is that fair?
Does that seem right?
And because teams are going to try to get everything they can get,
rightfully so, but maybe it doesn't have to cost that much.
Maybe it's a little, you know, maybe that, you know,
you can chop them down 5, 10%, get you a little bit better deal.
The best advice that I got in racing, I started a race team,
and Kevin Harbock told me to keep the garage, keep the parts room locked.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
And so there's two things.
that can run up the cost, and you may not have to deal with this specifically, but it's metaphorically
true.
I kept, I keep, my parts guy is not allowed to let anybody walk in there.
They walk up to the counter.
They have an invoice in their hand for everything they need, and the door stays locked.
I have to knock on it to get through it.
And the radio truck at the racetrack, headsets, radio, zero.
plugs, all that stuff, and any kind of parts truck at the racetrack.
There's no open ticket to flock.
Yeah.
You can't walk up in there and go, I need this scanner, put it on this car, put it on this bill.
And so that, think about that in a, in just kind of how you might manage your, your
motorsports venture, right?
Keep everything tight financially because expenses get out of hand, just like you experienced
that already, right?
and everything you do.
You have to be smart.
And if you let,
if you're not sort of keeping your eye
on all the little things
and keeping it itemized,
it can get really carried away quick.
Yeah, I run out pretty loose, to be honest.
Yeah, so I'd run,
I'd just make sure that, you know,
you don't want to get done with this year
and look back and go,
damn, that was $50 or $100,000 more than I thought.
Yeah.
You know, or that I was told it would be.
Or, you know what I mean?
and that can happen pretty easily.
Okay, that's a good one.
Yeah.
I like that a lot.
Last advice one is best piece of advice
just relating to life outside of motorsports.
And I ask this because I have a lot of respect
for your humble personality.
You know, you have a lot of cool race cars.
You have a great family.
You have an incredible building that we're in right now.
And I guess I just would be curious
what kind of life advice you would do.
offer. Well, I appreciate you asking. I hesitate to give it because it's not, you know, I'm not
perfect. I don't live that advice every day to the tea. Of course, nobody is perfect. And everything
that we see on social media isn't always how everything is in real life. You know that, right? And so,
I know you know that. And now we only put the good stuff on social media. For the most part, yeah.
Yeah, there's some tough days at home, you know.
And, but I would say that, golly, man, and this is, I used to tell my buddies, and it's such a silly thing.
It's very cliche, but don't let the good times pass you by, right?
There is going, there is going, there were so many times where my buddies called me up and were like, hey, man, we're hanging out tonight.
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh, man, this new video game came out.
I'm going to do that.
And I regret every one of those days that I didn't go and hang out.
And I let something, I let a moment or an opportunity to be with my friends or spend time with a group pass me by because of some silly, trivial thing that I thought I needed to be doing in that moment.
As I got older and I get older now, you know, I'm closer to, I'm closer to the finish line than I am the beginning.
You know, and I think that I'm even more self, I'm even more aware of like how these, and it's not,
I'm not perfect, man, I still struggle with it.
But like these silly arguments or disagreements that I might get in with family or my wife
or something that's disappointing, maybe erased it and go the way I wanted it to or something
a project I'm working on wasn't successful like I hoped.
I got to spend less time bummed.
It doesn't really bother.
Yeah, because I'm wasting time.
I try to hold myself to that too.
I feel it about a couple days later.
I'm like, why was that so upset about it?
I still do it.
I still don't, I don't adhere to that.
But God, I hate, and I'll get in some things,
I'll get in some moods, right,
or I'll have a rough couple of days over something.
And I'm in the middle of it, and I'm going,
God, I got to drop this shit.
I feel that, yeah.
You know, I am wasting time.
I want to be happy.
Yeah.
I want to make memories with my girls.
I want to go hang with my friends.
I want to be on the gas every day.
Right?
But I'm not that, but I want that.
And that's like how I try to live.
I wish I would have been that way when I was younger.
I mean, I ran hard, but, you know, I did take some days off, you know,
and did think, you know, just didn't do anything for the sake of doing nothing.
And I wish I would have been, I wish I would have traveled the world more.
when I was younger.
I really didn't get that bug until later.
But you got to get out, man.
Okay.
And a real quick question.
You can always tell me.
You don't need that advice because you're already-
Well, I just, I love to hear this stuff.
And tell me if this is getting too personal.
You have two kids, right?
Do you wish you had more?
I don't now.
That could change, right?
We, I'm still, Nicole's two.
I was, or Nicole's four and Isla 6, and the way I looked at it was, you know, I thought that
I couldn't love anyone more than my wife.
Or I thought I couldn't love harder, I guess, is the way to put that.
I thought that I was loving to my max with Amy.
And then, you know, when she gave birth to Isla, my love for Amy, like, went up another notch.
I know.
Damn, man, I can't believe you did that.
I remember that feeling in the delivery room.
Yes.
I love you so much.
And I'm like, I can't believe that you and I made this and you are the one that created.
It's a mind-blowing feeling.
It's so primitive.
Yes, it is.
And then, you know, your love for your kids is another level of love that you didn't realize you had in you.
And so I kind of been riding that high.
And I, um, yeah.
I mean, after two, I was kind of like, hey, man, I, I, I'm happy.
That's kind of how we feel.
Yeah.
But I was just curious, you know, you have a similar lifestyle.
Yeah.
I would love to.
I just want to.
I really am good, you know, where we are.
And I think that, yeah, I mean, the other thing, too, I'll tell you, my age, right?
I worry about, you know, my girls when they graduate, I'll be in my late 60s, you know, when they're going through graduation and in a college and things like that.
And I'm like, man, you know, I got a, I don't know how this.
a sound but I felt like it would I felt like having kids at my age I was I know what it's like
to lose your parent in you when you're young right and even in your 20s you're not really prepared
for like losing that brother you know or that guidance and so I felt like shoot man I don't want to
bring a child into this world and and then leave them in their early 20s or even earlier you know
I don't know what's guaranteed for me.
And so I was thinking about that too.
It's a tough perspective.
It is a tough perspective.
And it's selfish maybe.
I don't know.
I was just like, hey, I'm lucky to figure it out.
I was stupid for waiting as long as I did to like figure it out and get my life into this position.
I should have married Amy way sooner.
I should have started our family sooner.
I shouldn't have waited for that because I thought, man, I got to do more wild shit.
I want to just have fun and race and selfish.
and I want to do what I want to do.
I ain't answering to nobody,
and I ain't living by nobody else's rules
and no compromising.
It's very selfish.
But I wish I had to figure that out sooner.
Because I got buddies that are my age,
and they're like, my daughter's going to college.
And I'm like, damn, I wish my daughter was going to college.
You know, I wish I would have.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
You're also in such a good time.
Oh, I'm loving, dude, I love where I'm at.
But I should have figured this shit out soon.
Okay.
Okay.
All right, I got you.
George was wondering if you eat liver mush.
Hell yes.
Really?
Hell yes.
He's a liver.
What the hell's liver mush?
Dude, it's, I don't care.
I don't care.
I mean, I probably could pull it up, but I don't want to know.
Let me tell you, man, when you, when, and people are different, everybody cuts it different.
But when you cut it thin and you get it almost, it's crazy.
Cut it thin, cook it crispy.
Oh, my God.
Oh, damn.
good.
All right.
Mustard, liver mushroom with mustard toasts or regular.
Big North Carolina thing.
If you don't know what liver mush is, you should look at all.
Holy shit.
It's interesting stuff.
It is so good.
Is it true?
Amy even eats it.
You know, Amy's my, you know, she never heard of it.
And she would not eat it.
She's like, hell, I got to try it again.
If Amy eats it, I got to try it again.
She finally ate some and she's like, yep, she'll cook it every now, man.
I get so proud when she cooks it.
Is it true that Dale flew a,
your father flew over your house party
with a helicopter, shining a spotlight
on the party. Ran everybody off.
That's a cool thing I've ever heard.
It wasn't great in the moment. I
we had, I used to race
on Saturdays in the Xfinity series
and I think
it might have been like
Darlington or Martinsville is a close track where
dad would helicopter back and forth. And so
I ran my race. It wasn't Martin'sville
we didn't race at the Xfinity there, so it might have been
Darlington. I ran my race
and I'd already planned this shit.
So like Friday or so, I'm like,
all right, boys, let's get the beer.
We'd go shop.
We get the beer.
We got the whole basement.
I got a club in my basement.
We got everything ready.
And man, when I get home, don't start without me.
But when I get home, we're going to be raising hell.
Yeah, yeah.
And tell everybody.
And we just had a lot of people that we knew around town, friends and folks.
So it's popping.
Yeah.
And so when I would get home from the race around.
Well, what year is this?
This is 98, 99.
This is the prime.
Yeah.
I'd get home from the race around 8, 9 o'clock, and we would,
just crank the music and start partying
and everybody'd show up.
And for whatever reason,
it was probably like midnight or something,
man, we're right in the middle of it.
About a, I don't know, probably about 40, 50 people.
He comes helicopters around the house
and he's like, he's not flying it,
but he's in the pasture seat.
And they're nosing that thing around the house.
And everybody's parked their cars out in this field
next to the house.
And he's flying that thing around.
and everybody runs out of the house.
We've, in the basement, everybody runs out of the basement door and to their cars and jumps
why'd they run?
They're like, well, they were like, Dad, Dale's home.
They thought he was going to land.
Oh, they thought he was going to land and come in there and raise hell or something.
I don't know.
What helicopter was it?
Do you remember?
He had a bell.
Bell 407 or something.
I think so.
Oh, that's cool.
And so he gets, he just flew it around.
Then he went and landed, but like probably 80% of the people hauled ass.
It was nothing but tail lights out the driveway.
He loved it.
He thought it was hilarious.
That's awesome.
He had that kind of control.
What do you think of the quote, do it for Dale?
I love it.
And when, you know, all these years later, I said this when he passed away and I said it
for probably a decade or so, everybody would be like, you know, what's your thoughts on losing
your dad and how to go, my fear is that he'll one day just be forgotten with time.
My worry would be that he would just disappear into the distance, right?
Yeah.
As we get further and further removed from his career, I was like,
I just hope he's never forgotten because he left such an impact on the sport.
And so that kind of thing is the staying power.
That is the reminder to me, like, that he resonated with people.
Now that you say that, I would say that he has the most longstanding legendary stats.
of any real motor sports driver.
Maybe.
I think she does.
And so when I hear things like that, it's like, yeah.
Yeah.
He still matters.
I say it at the end of every one of my videos.
Every YouTube video I've ever had.
Yeah.
Maybe a few I've missed, but I always just say,
thanks for watching.
Do It for Dale.
I love it.
I'll break in you later.
Do It for Dale is like a nod to dad in his legacy,
and it's tasteful.
It's, you know, I like, I'm thankful.
Well, I'm glad you like it.
I know I'm not the one who invented it.
I just, you know, I think it's a great saying.
It's like a lifestyle.
My buddy Justin Keith said it to me one time, and I was like,
Daring-Fordale.
Yeah.
It's literally, that's kind of like how we live our lives.
It's like, we're just doing it for now.
That's right.
That's cool.
I'm glad you like it.
Yeah, I do.
I appreciate it.
Well, it's been great talking to you.
It has, man.
I've always, you know, I've been following you for several years now,
and when you bought the track, I was really kind of so curious
and interested in what you were doing.
And it's been a lot of fun learning who you are
and to be able to have you here today
to actually talk to you is very, very special for me.
It's an honor for me.
Well, I appreciate that you feel that way.
I'm thankful for how you, I'm thankful for how you view my father
and how you've incorporated some of those things
into what you've done, and I appreciate your respect for that.
I'm glad that you came and raised in the Arca Race and you shine the light on our sport.
And I'm glad that you're going to try to do more.
And I, yeah, it's been a great experience, man.
You're a good dude.
Cool.
I appreciate that, man.
I appreciate you.
Means a lot coming from you.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks.
Cletus McFarland on a Dale Jr. Download.
Do it for Dale.
That was a great conversation with Cletus McFarland.
And I had always, I'd been following him.
for a while and uh course i i watch a little bit of youtube like i said when i get home
and i'm sitting on the couch i will fire that up and uh instead of like watching you know
regular television like i i just i mean i watch both but it's just interesting to me i think
how i've how youtube's become a bigger part of how i might spend that time and so i see a lot
of his stuff and I'm like, that's pretty interesting.
And he's a cool guy that has fun on his stuff.
And yeah, it's easy to watch.
And then he gets the track.
And the first time I saw him, I think I was watching because of the truck.
He has this good wrench number three truck.
And then, you know, he buys the track.
And obviously, yeah, I was like, wow, what's it going to do with that?
But just fun to talk to him and kind of learn about what his processes are and what's
imported to him and how he has prodded along and made this such a success. And yeah, we got some
breaking news. We did. Yeah. That was cool. Yeah. Little teaser is what to come. What's your favorite part,
Andrew? I actually thought it was really cool. That last 30 minutes where he was wanted to pick your brain,
he all ended up getting into like a life conversation. That to me was pretty neat because it just
seem very down to earth and it just seemed like a really neat just life conversation hey soak up all
the good moments like that's what it's all about you know i think so i you know i i i am not all i'm not
great at life and i have my bad days and um so it's hard to it's hard to be giving out advice because
i don't i don't know that i follow my own advice a lot but um it doesn't mean you don't know you
know what you should be doing, how you should be approaching every day.
And so it was fun to have that conversation with him.
I really was curious, I think, about the, when did he realize, I guess, that I'm going
to fully commit to this YouTube deal.
And then once he makes that commitment, then he starts seeing the success.
And he's like, all right, now I can make a living doing this, right?
and it was that wasn't even
that wasn't even a sustainable
idea
you know
2009 when he started the channel
not many people were like
yep gonna make a living
creating content like this
but he just
you know
he stuck with it
and didn't hear him too talk about how
you know it's a lot of critical
moments and a lot of critical people
that was interesting
because I wanted to know that
You know, you, there is going to be absolutely a point
anytime you're in the middle of creating or building something
where a lot of people are going to tell you it's a bad idea
or it's a waste of time or something you don't need to put any effort
or energy into.
And he saw that through.
But it sounds, and I guess living it out in a social world,
like I'm, I guess living out that idea
in the world of social media.
Not many people can stay the course.
And all they hear is, I don't like it, not good enough.
You're not right.
You're not good.
You're no good.
This is no good.
Well, and on the opposite side of that, when everything's going right, I mean, he's got a big following now, but he said the biggest mistake is you let off the gas.
So it's just like staying true to yourself seems to be, I mean, that's obviously people recognize authenticity.
but that's critical, I think, to building something like he did.
Yeah, I think it's kind of, I imagine it's kind of like a band that has had a lot of success.
And the, you know, he may be, he may not be this way, but he seems like the kind of guy that he's an adrenaline junkie and a thrill seeker.
And I think that he's always going to come up with fun ideas that you're going to want to see through.
and tap into.
But then there will be these moments where he's like,
I'm tired of doing these things.
I want to try this new stuff.
Anytime a band has had a ton of success changes their sound, man.
People are like, whoa, whoa, the same.
Give me back my old band.
But he's going to have, I mean, imagine if I were him,
I would have those moments where I'm like, man, I'm ready to branch out.
I'm ready to do something completely different.
I need a new challenge.
He's a great example of how YouTube has become must-see content.
There's a sky over in Europe that's been renovating this chateau that burned down
and the bones of the thing are still standing and he's documented this daily,
everything he's doing for a couple of years now.
And I've seen at least 75% of the content.
I'm like, watch that much of it.
And every day there's like a 20-minute clip that he posts of everything they did
and worked on that day trying to put this chateau back together.
And he's doing it literally on his YouTube salary.
You know, he's doing nothing else all day but working on this chateau.
And I've been fascinating not only by obviously the project he's working on,
but how he runs his channel, what he shares with us,
how what's important for him that day to show.
There's other stuff too that I think is fascinating where I'll see
there's this one kid that I was watching
and he kept buying old boats
like he bought this,
I'm just throwing numbers.
I don't know the truth, true numbers,
but like he bought a 25 foot cheap boat,
renovated it, used it for a year,
sold it, bought a 35 foot dilapidated boat,
renovated it used it for a year or two sold it then he bought a 45 you know and he's got now he's
in this like big 60 foot but it was junk nobody wanted it and he rebuilt the guts of it the motor
and everything got it running and you and now he's running all over the world right creating content
and there's people that sell just go and sell for years and just document their sailing adventure
right and the problems and challenges and so the content on YouTube man it's interesting how it's
it's all reality TV but it's not scripted right and it's pretty fun and you know you can't help
put yourself like man why can't I do that or what man that sounds fun that seems fun gosh this person is
this person dropped everything they were doing and now they're just selling the Caribbean for the next
four years or however long they want to do this, right?
Creating content.
Wherever it is you want to go and be.
And people are just doing it.
You know, I think we all spent so many years of our childhood
growing up in our towns and watching everybody just do what they do.
You get a job, you live, you work, and you come home.
And now we're living in a world where people are just deciding what they want and going
and doing that, wherever that is, right?
Or not adhering to this sort of, you know.
Societal norms.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's pretty neat.
And he's a great example of that.
He adheres to no norms.
Right.
I mean, just looking through his YouTube channel, I'm just trying to think, like, how would
he describe what his YouTube channel is?
And it's just like, then this is men as a compliment, but just like doing cool,
random redneck.
I got real close to asking him that.
Like, give, like, give me the short.
synopsis of what it is.
Yeah.
Describe your work to an advertisement.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
Anyhow, really cool.
A lot of fun.
Again, man, I love when we get these non-racing stories in here.
And I know he's got some connections to motorsports, but his identity is that YouTube content
creator and fascinating to be able to get him in here and have a conversation.
station. So thank you,
Cletus McFarlane for spending some time with us today.
It's time for the white flag.
All right, the white flag.
Action's detrimental and door bumper clear recorded on Monday.
DBC had Bubba Wallace and Butterbean on the show.
Denny had a lot to say after the race at Daytona.
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Yesterday, we did our dirty air show, recapping everything from Daytona to the Junior
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IRS Jr. and Dirty Moe Doe segment
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