The Dale Jr. Download - Bonus: Dirty Mo LIVE with Dale Jr., Josh Berry and TJ Majors

Episode Date: November 23, 2022

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And enjoyed this special episode, we'd record you with Dale Jr., Josh Barry, and T.J. Majors, after Dale's late model race app, Florence. Hey, everybody. Welcome to the Bojangles studio here. Another episode of Dirtymoe Media Live, Daly.

I'm going to be a co-host today. Joining me is T.J. Majors, my spotter from this past weekend. And Josh Barry with the crew chief. for the Bass Pro Shops late model stock car at Florence Motor Speedway. And we just wanted to talk about our experience. We had a lot of fun, guys. Came away with a ninth place finish.

Should have been way better than that. Had a fast car. And a lot of ups and downs. And let's get to it. So Josh has been really kind enough to kind of spearhead any kind of late mile stock racing that I've been wanting to do here lately and sets up an amazing race car. uh... we got a great group of guys over there uh... bryan shafer and his hold his whole team

that kind of oversee our late model stop program for carson quaple and you know so carson's entered in the race and i'm going to go run i ran at florence a long time ago back probably about thirty-five forty races back in the mid-n nineties and i hadn't been there and i was dying to go uh... they had this uh... south carolina four hundred every year at the end of the season and it just worked out

anyways uh... you know uh... I don't even know where to begin. There was so much going on. But we had, so, you know, we're going to go run a race. And we ran the Sundrop car earlier this year in the Cars Tour race at Wilkesboro. Had a great finish. Josh, you were the crew chief there.

T.J. you spotted. We had an awesome time. And that checked a lot of boxes for me. Like, okay, man, I can kind of do this. I think I might, you know, go try it again. And so we decided to go to Florence. and you guys kind of, you know, stepped up and we're ready to go. T.J, you flew in and out with Joey on the little four-seat airplane.

We had a little strip next door that was kind of convenient. Yeah, it was a little grass runway. It's a little, it's fun. Yeah. And so, you know, what did you take of Florence? Had you ever been there? I had never been there. What did you take about that?

It is exactly what I expected it to be. Yeah. It's like a sister of Myrtle Beach kind of. old war out I mean it's exactly what I pictured a South Carolina you know just a track that

you had ran out a long time ago I've heard a lot about it a lot of fun I mean just I like the fact I like war out race tracks they're probably on top of my list as far as how you got to approach them

and drive them it's not just as hard as you can go every single lap it's kind of there's a technique to it there's skill doing it. And I liked it. Yeah.

I didn't know there was that much technique and skill to it until Josh was telling me about, man, you know, if you get, if you move, if you run about, you know, six inches lower right here, it's about a tenth faster. And a guy was asking me was the track as technical back in the 90s. And I was like, no, man, we just, you were in a different place in the corner. Every time you went through it, you never, you just went through the corner as fast as you possibly could go and never worried about, well, if I moved down or I get a little tighter here or I enter this way.

We weren't really that, you know, technical about it back then, but the cars are, you know, it's so close and so tough, the competition that you try to get every little, you know, you're always, you're really paying attention to all those little details. And obviously with Josh and his experience, he's going to feed me all kinds of great information about how to get the car around the corner faster. There's no walls there.

We see some guys, we saw some guys test, you know, the landscape. We saw that. When they flew out of the racetrack, a couple stuck throttles, blown right front tires. That was by far the most eventful one there with that. I mean, I've been there several times, and I remember one car going off. I feel like that was pretty wild weekend, yeah. Yeah, we had one guy stick throttle and went off into the woods in term one and landed on a cement block

and ripped the doorbars out of the right side of the car, and lucky to get out of there in one piece. Josh, so I noticed, you know, when we get there, me and you we got some campers from camping world so camping world is going to donate a camper for the windale junior's ride this year the raffle where we give away a camper and a truck and I said you know why don't I take that camper and use it this weekend and you know give it a good I want to buy one as well so I'm going actually actually going shopping later today to look at some but I sold my airstream to Michael Waltrip and now I'm kind of getting back into it and get me some bunks for the girls and all that stuff but I was I was using this we had some campers

set up a little compound with the solo stove in the middle and had some beers every night and cooked and chatted and hung out. Even after the race, we hung out until four in the morning. And then we got up at eight and drove home. Was TJ hanging out too? I flew in and out too. I flew in and out. He was in the air. TJ's in there. Yeah, he was a. I flew in and out every day. But we got there and set around 10th on the board, 10th to 15th on the board. for the most of the weekend and kind of didn't struggle with the car but kind of wondered what we

could do to make it faster. I mean, how did you view the process of practice and leading up to qualify? Yeah, no, it was, you know, I knew that it would take a little time for you to adjust to it. I actually kind of feel like Florence is one of the harder places to go and make speed. You know, just like I talked about, I feel like it's a little technical. You know, where you place the car is really important to how it drives. So I knew that you had to learn a little bit of the way. that.

And yeah, but I still felt pretty decent about it the whole time. I felt like, obviously, we wanted to be a little bit quicker. You know, you want to be the fastest car or whatever. But I felt like I knew with your experience that when it come time to race, I knew that you would be able to race, race up there and definitely be competitive. I wasn't sure. Yeah, I mean, we all had a conversation about it. I remember me and Ryan and Brian as well.

You know, we talked about, like, what our expectations were. I think that was a little bit different, right? Because so when we went to Wilkesboro, we had no expectations, right? Like, this is the first time we've ever done it. And really, it rained. So there was like a 20-minute practice. And it was like, boom, boom. Yeah, it was like, boom, boom, boom, all right, we're qualifying and racing, right.

So there was more expectations now. You know, we went third there. So we're like, well, we can, you know, we obviously, we proved that we can all do, you know, do this together. We want to make it better. But that's a tough race. You know, there's lots of practice. There's a tire shortage ongoing. so you're like trying to pay attention to what other people have and we don't you know we have

versus them and but it was way too much practice yes way too much we had uh you there was a open practice on thursday wednesday or thursday thursday there was two forty five minutes sessions thursday i didn't go josh went up there with the car and drove it which was great for me to have have you drive the car and kind of like hey man i'm going hopping this thing and josh's got all the big problems figured out um Friday i get there and there's a four hour practice straight four hours we ran for about two hours and I was like what else can we do I mean we you know we almost had to stop and just sit and wait because we were just going to do it you know we're going to burn her tires up so way too much practice there was another four hours

in little chunks on Saturday yeah before qualifying so basically 10 hours almost 10 hours of practice it really just gave us a lot of time to just overthink it I feel like a little bit which I feel like we I feel like I did a pre-I've learned a lot of Even with the Exfinity racing, right? Like, I've really learned that, man, a lot of times you just, there was too much practice, right? You learn, you know, even in the Expending Cup Series now without practice or now the short practice, the same cars run up front no matter what most time. I mean, there's not, you know, there might be a happy medium there to explore, but, you know, yeah,

that was way too much practice. So, and after, like I said, I drove the car Thursday. Obviously, the conditions are a little bit different, but, you know, I felt pretty good. I felt like it was pretty solid. and it was just about trying to get you more comfortable, get you there. The, you know, we finally, we get to this point, you know, we do a mock qualifying run right then to practice or one of the last practices. It was pretty good.

I mean, it was right there maybe, I don't know, half a tenth or tenth off the best time for the whole weekend. So I felt pretty good about that, but I think that even, you know, we talked about afterwards, I think I told you that, you know, for whatever reason, it always seems to pick up a lot from that moment, you know. So I think looking back on it, maybe you weren't expecting it to pick up that much. Maybe could have done things a little bit different.

You know, maybe we could have made a couple more adjustments. But like so, once you got in the race, I mean, 50 laps into the race, we're moving forward, passing cars and dodging some wrecks. And before you know, we're in the top five. I know. So, this whole thing is only, this whole thing, meaning me going to the racetrack

and running a late model race only works if it's fun and doesn't get competitive or stressful. And I don't get the way I usually get when I drive race cars. And that's like, we got to win, we got to run. This got to be faster, faster, faster, faster. And so, you know, there was a moment during the qualifying process where I was literally about to shit my pants. And so they were going to take the top 20 and that would lock you in if you could qualify

in the top 20. There were 53 cars there. judging by what we ran all weekend, we thought we were good enough to do that. Like Josh said, they went out there and they picked up, you know, two tents or more, and we're running really fast laps. We saw that immediately as qualifying started, and we're waiting on our turn to go. And I'm looking at Josh, he's on the other side of the car, and I'm thinking, I think I know what you're thinking. It's like, you're looking at me going, do you see what they're doing? You see what they're running?

Are you ready to go run that? You think you can go do that? And I'm sitting there going, I don't know. I don't know if I can go run that. And so we go out there to qualify, and we're not fast enough. We're like 26th or something like that. Yeah. And so, no, we were 30th.

Yeah, we were late. In the very first round, we were 30th out of 53 cars. And I was so, so disappointed that, you know, for no, I didn't know why we wouldn't able to pick up, you know. Carson ran good enough to get in the top 10. And I felt like I was about 10 spots off of him, you know, so I should have, Should have been inside that top 20. So that was pretty disappointing.

We got out there to rerun. We're getting ready to go rerun. And we really don't know what the process is. Free-for-all is what it is. That's what I was sitting here thinking. We need to make sure we leave enough time to talk about the race. Because it was a race too. There was plenty to cover there.

I know. Well, the qualifying was very nerve-wracking. We finally were able to get ourselves in. That was such a relief to me. I was legitimately terrified that, you know, I was not going to make this race. I could go out there and screw this up and almost did. And anyways, we get ourselves into the race,

and now I'm not so sure we're going to run as good as you think. Or, you know, I'm not sure that, you know, I think, I can say the tires, you know, but is that going to give me enough speed at the end of the race to drive through there? Race starts, I'm so much more happy now after qualifying. Qualifying out of the way. Everything else from here on now is gravy. I'm in a way better place emotionally.

So, you know, we get in the car, And the race gets going. And literally from the very, very drop of the green flag, it is the most fun I can remember having in a race car. You know, I'm sure I've had great times in cars, but of recent memory, this is so much fun. Because this thing, you know, it's just, it's very fun to drive.

There's a lot of, you know, the tires are kind of soft and forgiving. Everybody's out there making all types of mistakes. I'm making mistakes. And you see a lot of guys running. really, really hard, and you know you're not. I'm sitting there going, man, I'm straight off the corner, I'm not sliding the tires, and I'm watching guys in front of me, and they're just

tracking it and carrying on, and we got 190 laps to go. And I'm like, well, I know I'm going to beat him. I know I'm going to beat that one. And sure enough, you know, like you say, we got about 50 laps in that race, and they got easier and easier to catch, and then they got easy to pass.

And we rode literally just like, you know, 80% for that first 75 lap segment. The race was 75 laps, 75 laps, and then a 50 lap final segment. No caution isn't counting the last one. Right. And so, you know, I thought, we got done with that. We got done with that first segment, man.

And I'm like, man, I could just do, I could do a thousand miles of this. This is so much fun. I'm not hot. I'm not tired. Wrecked. Well, we, yeah, yeah, that's what I was thinking. I mean, there was a Daytona wreck on the front stretch that got about, that we were so close to getting into.

Josh, he or somebody comes out of the radio and just goes, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. I think it was him. Yeah, that was him. He thought it was me, but that was him. He called it. That's pretty easy directions to follow.

Okay, I'll just stop. I was worried because that was right, we were right there in turn one on top of our trailer, and he was in the middle of like, like that's the worst, like, he was telling you, you know, something to change or whatever, like, and then it happens. And we see it happening, and he's like, stop, top, top, top, stop.

And that was close. There was some guy coming there. walking the brakes up and he's fun sideways and was like six inches. Yeah. Thank you 99. I looked in the mirror and I saw him sliding toward me and so I started coming off the break a little bit to roll forward to kind of like hopefully he doesn't hit me. I got a little room between me and the wreck and I saw I was talking to Landon Huffman and he's like man I don't know what he piled in there you know he he's like I don't know what I could have done different I said you could have been back there with me yeah and he's like I said plus I had a cup cup level spotter telling me to stop stop stop stop stop I'm

Like that's, you know what, when it comes to spotting, I know that's, it's pretty trivial, but, um, simple, simple, like, just do this. I tell you all the time. I'm like, man, you're, you're like the, you've got the remote control. Just tell me what to do and you're going to watch it happen. And so, uh, and I was lucky to see it. I was lucky to see it pretty much start. Yeah. And thank goodness that 99 and I had a lot of rear brake.

That would have sucked if we had got caught up in that. We could have easily gotten in there. Oh, yeah, it would have been. We could have been landing. Yeah, it's real easily. So, yeah, you know, on those early restarts in that first segment, on the outside, it was really easy. A lot of guys were trying to get to the bottom, get to the bottom. And so you got all those cars in front of you trying to file to the bottom.

So if you restart it on the bottom, you're just checking up, checking up, a lot of stop, a lot of pile-ups and check-ups. So the outside line would roll. You would easily, like you said at the start of the race, take all the easy spots. Don't work hard for anything. If they hand it to you, just take that. And so all those guys that could restarting outside, like Lannon did here right before that caution, could roll around the outside and get four or five spots and that and he did in turn put him in the position to be in that wreck where we were kind of bottled up on the bottom and were removed from

that crash when it happened but we started a second 75 laps and I didn't really get any instruction to do this but about 25 laps into that run I kind of picked up my pace a little bit and I saw the o3 butter bean and a couple of the guys that I was running relatively close with moving forward and I thought I might I might actually push my car a little bit more still drive straight still not slide the front still not spin the rears but maybe get a little bit more out of it and see what we can do and because I thought the way I thought we should maybe be is we needed to be in the top four two rows for that final 50 yeah that final 50 was going to be run hard so if you wanted to win you needed to be within reach of the leader

you weren't going to drive up there from 10th. I mean, you know, you could have knowing what we know now with all the wrecks and cautions that some that I created. But, you know, I felt like we got to race a little bit in this second segment to get ourselves in better position. And it worked out. The car was perfect. We'd save so much tire.

It was really easy. A couple guys spun themselves out, out of our way. We gained a lot of track position, you know, by mistakes that other people made and passed some cars. and so we you know for that that that second segment was fun as fun as the first we moved forward but pretty uneventful when the caution came out for the final segment we're sitting in sixth place yep i was pretty surprised with that much track position i didn't think because we were sitting in 18th or something like that when we started that segment yeah we missed a wreck i'm like 14th and when that when that segment i mean i knew we were kind of doing good but when the segment when the caution came out it hit me i was like damn we're sixth yeah this is It's real. This is getting serious. That second 75 really showed the guys.

There's a couple of guys, a handful of them that were racing up front that fell off. Yeah. They got laughed. They got laughed. There was a couple that got laughed in that segment. It's amazing to see. I know. That was when I knew that, like, you taking care of your stuff, like, just straight out of four, doing that stuff like that's when I was like really, I started to get excited because I'm like, we've been taking care of them.

And this guy's really fading, so we're going to be in really good shape. And, too, we get to this, you know, to clarify, like, we get to this last, this, this. break at 50 to go. We put rights on, but you run 200 laps on your lefts. So even the guys that had ran harder at the beginning of the race still had put more wear on their left sides than we did. So we still had an advantage and we knew that. Obviously, it's not as much of an advantage with the two tires we put on, but there was

still an advantage there that we knew that it had kind of created. And, you know, we had saved more and then got to the top six, right? Like you're in, that's, you know, about the best we could do for where we started. For sure. I know we were sitting on pit road between the brakes, and y'all, y'all were like, right front looks brand new. Oh, man, left side's a great. Yeah. The wear from the leftward to left front, pretty much even, pretty much the same.

I'm like, I'm doing good. I'm doing it. I mean, I could, I knew you were doing good because I can see the guy sliding out of four. And that's when I think when you started chasing that at O3 that one time, I think I came on radio, like, right away, like, don't slide it up there. Yeah. You like, I saw you pick it up. And I'm like, no, not yet. Like, we still got.

And the second, the last 50, I know it's only 50 last, but they don't count caution. So it's really like, you know, it's a longer stage too. I'm not, I'm not, I guess surprised. I was surprised. I was. I was surprised at how you adapt as a spotter. To be honestly, man, this is not the style of racing that you cover in the cup level, in Exfinity and truck.

but you drop down into, you know, late model stocks or any, you know, even in the supers, they do this style of racing where you really got to take care of your tire and you got to as a spotter. That's the only advantage we were going to have, is we needed to have an advantage later. Yeah. I mean, I've worked with you a long time and I've seen you do a lot of great, you know, call a lot of great races as Spotter, man, but the two races that you've called for me in the late model car, I mean, you have been.

How's I'm doing to slowing you down? I know. I love it. But, I mean, I can literally see when you throttle up and you cross that seam off, four. I know when you're starting to try too hard and no one's catching you from behind. So I'm just like, let's just eat straight out of four. You do as I tell you something. Like the most fun things is a spotter is whenever like that line out of four whenever I'd see you so I could carry like keep your left front low and like

the next lap you come down there and you're like pinned right against it. That's fun as a spotter because you're using the info and it works out later. Yep. So we get put in a, you know, you guys aren't really making any adjustments to the car. you know what are you thinking before the final segment what are y'all doing to the car we swapped to swap some tires around obviously put the rights on freed the car up a little bit i kind of have like a standard we all have like a standard adjustment we kind of make when we put two tires on the car just to compensate for that looking back on it i'd probably freed it up a little bit more because i felt like it tightened it up a little bit more than i expected yep um but really it was about

like I expected. I felt like we would take off. We would be tight for about, you know, pretty tight for about 15, and then it would start going. And that's what happened. Yeah. So we got to restart. We started six, and then there was immediate caution, and we were fifth. And starting on the outside, my car was really tight. And starting on the outside, it was better to be there than on the bottom with a tight car. We beat somebody, caution comes out, restart fifth, get another green flag, and two guys just drove right around me on the outside, and I gave up two spots, and I started to get a little nervous because I felt like I should have been able

to defend that spot a little bit easier, but, man, they just powered right around me turning so much better, and I thought, hmm, this is it good. We're going to need, you know, this thing's going to turn eventually, but is it going to turn, is it going to happen soon enough? Seven or so laps later, man, we're driving back to them. Yeah. That was so cool. Butterbean, who ends up winning the race, you know, push me up out of the way,

to get around me perfectly fine. In late model racing, I don't mind guys, you know, leaning into me a little bit. I like the beat and bang a little bit. I like banging sides and stuff just as long as we saw. Yeah, just as long as we're not climbing tires. And I don't mind you moving me up out of the racetrack. Just don't put, you know, just don't spin me out.

Just don't put me in a bad situation or run me into anybody. And because I, when I caught Butterbean back, I was like, here you go, buddy, you're getting it back. Yeah. Yeah, I moved him off before. And he was so loose. He was loose into, he was spinning out into three and sliding up the track, and that's how I could get to him to give him the bumper off four.

And so I'm sitting there thinking, you know, we're going to run second. The 22 Mason Diaz fastest car on the racetrack. He drives, I agree. But he used a bunch of race car to get there. Yeah. And so if we may have had opportunities. You never know. Yeah.

Right. I felt like for sure we had second place car. Yeah. I catch the 51. He got moved up out of the. the way or is getting passed by his teammate he was struggling a little bit Matt Cox yep and so I knew that and I'm like I got to get by him got to get around him and so I get to his inside and we go down into turn one and we come up off the corner and there's no wall around this racetrack and so there's

really you know you use that wall as a visual reference to understand okay there's the distance between me and the wall there's enough room for another car there I'm giving this guy plenty of room well without that wall it's kind of a little difficult to understand exactly how much room you're allowing this guy to have, does he have enough asphalt out there before you push him off the racetrack? I felt like that I gave him the 51 enough room. You know, looking at the replay, I came up into his left rear. He was coming from the top, coming down a little bit, but I do think I drove through his car. They told us, they told us at the driver's meeting if you cause an accident or you're the reason for it,

you go to the rear with the car that spins. And I told you this after the race. I don't ever remember racing in a race where that was a rule. I'm not against it. I don't have a problem with it. But I just know that I've never, you know, when you know that and had that mentality and race that way every week, if you go to the same racetrack with the same rule,

if you spin this guy, you know you're going to the rear. You race differently, right? Well, I didn't have that mentality in my brain when we were racing that night. I never raced in a race where that was a repercussion. And so we come off the corner and I get into him and he turns sideways and I'm like, save it, save it, save it. And he's not saving it. He tried to drive through it, I think. And I thought he's actually going to overcorrect back up the racetrack into me at one point.

It's because I gasped it to go around the outside of him. And y'all were like, you said he's okay. and I'm like, I didn't want to tell you what I really saw. I'm like, oh good, he saved it somehow. And then I came back around and he's backwards into the inside wall. And then they're like, all right, man, they're putting you through the rear. And I'm like, and then my phone was going, all these people were texting. I wish it was just my phone.

At least you weren't hiding from people. Three heard from, TJ. I don't even know who these people are. So people on the spotter stand coming after you? Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah, I mean, I'm not doing an L.A. My mom, I'm not. well our bodyguard um i had a window knit so yeah i don't i mean i didn't i don't know if spotters

are actually required for that race are they oh it's yeah it doesn't look like it that's why the 88 kept pulling up next to us as well he didn't have a spotter it was radio his radio went out yeah that's safe yeah yeah yeah so um anyways man you know my mistake i ran into the guy and he ends up losing control of his car and spins out certainly unintentional but i was i i think too i was too excited. I was starting to get, I was starting to like get. You can see the front. Yeah. I was, the adrenaline was pumping. The reality of the, the, the potential great finish we might have was, was, was coming to me and just got in over my head a little bit. So we get sent to the rear and, and then we have to go. And it's a complete disaster at that. Oh, yeah. Our timing and scoring went out, which actually found out that was actually the app itself.

Yeah. The app itself went down. I don't think that was related to the track. coincidentally. But we're in the back. We have no idea who's on the lead lap. Every caution that comes out, there's cars running four wide on the track trying to fight for spots. And we're like, you know, like I told you, I said, hey, take care of my car a little bit. I got this thing. Like be a little, you know, which it actually worked out because you dodged some accidents, you got a few spots. And before you know it, we're back in 10th, right? And, uh, but yeah, it was, I mean, to watch it, it was like, I couldn't believe what I was seeing, really. I was like, man, who's the next car on lead lap? And you're like, I don't know, I can't

help you. I can't tell you that. I'm like, man, I wish I knew that. I'd line up behind I line up with him and try to race, and you're like, looking back on it, we should have just drove past like four rows. Yeah, because they just let it happen. Yeah. And so you were like, yeah, I got to race this car, don't crash. And I'm like, well, they're probably going to wreck in front of me. So the potential's there. I'm sorry if anything happens.

And I just want a top 10. And then I got in the top 10. And I'm like, man, I'm really fast. Still very fast. And these guys are so slow. They are. I catch the zero. He's really slow.

So I catch you pretty easily. And I'm thinking I got to get by him real quick. and then I got to his inside and I screwed up like three corners in a row, just drove terribly and couldn't get around him. And then the fourth corner, I really ruined it. Drove in there, bounced, stern sideways, overcorrected into him and all that stuff, and took him out. Another big mistake of mine.

We have to go to the rear again. We're in the penalty box again. You were like fifth when that one happened to. I was racing for fifth. The adrenaline was picking up again. Another top five finish, thrown away. I threw away two top five finishes in the same race. Anyways, I don't know how we got ourselves back in the top ten.

We don't know. I didn't think we were, I looked at it was awesome. I'm like, ninth. Yeah, I think there was cars that actually, I know there's one in particular that I talked to have the race that I think finished in front of us and thought he was on the lead lap, but actually ended up not being on the lead. Like, we didn't know who was. We didn't know who was who.

I mean, they didn't know either, I guess. I don't know. It just got away from him a little bit, I guess. I wasn't too annoyed by it. By the end of the day, I felt like Steve Zach Rice, and all his crew did a lot with a little. They made a, you know, they made, I had a great experience. The qualifying format was nerve-wracking and terrifying,

but it was exciting for the fans. That worked as designed. The race was fun, the style of the format, the laps. I had a black, I'd do it again in a heartbeat. If they were having it, you know, in a couple weeks, we'd try to go run it again. The only thing I would say is they need a little bit, a little bit more, you know, a little bit more uniform race control.

I think with the race monitor going down, it threw everything into chaos. I think everybody saw it as a way to take advantage of it, too, at that point. Yeah, there was a few things happening under caution on the racetrack that I would have handled a little bit more sternly. There were some guys that were jumping spots. Well, the bad part is they would try to line the cars up and the flag man's out on the track and he was moving back and forth. Yeah, like, and he would point a car by. And whoever was fighting with him would just drive by him. Guys weren't listening.

He would turn around and, like, put his hands up. Yeah. It was almost a little dangerous. It was, it was dangerous. It made me nervous watching it. Yeah. And driver's not obeying officials. I don't care who this guy is.

I don't care who that official is, what his job is. What he does during the week, it doesn't matter. When he's got that shirt on and he's telling you something, that's what you do. They warned a couple guys about four. But finally, about the fifth time he was like, look, I'll just take you out of the race. And then the guy listens right away. That should be the way it goes. Yeah.

Should have about one opportunity. One opportunity. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I had a lot of fun. I hate to cut this short, but I got to get to my girls' school.

They're having a little Thanksgiving thing today, and I know you've got to get to work on the car. You're still getting this car ready for Southern National this weekend. Yep, yep. I worked on it all day yesterday. Thanksgiving Classic. Yeah. 50,000 to win. Yeah, hopefully the weather's a little shaky.

Hopefully it clears up for us so we can have a great weekend out there. But, yeah, we're those plans to take the car back. Like I said, patched it up a little bit and checked everything out and about ready to go. It's not too bad, is it? No, it's not too bad. Yeah. I know you'll do a better job than I did. in qualifying.

I know you've got a fast race car for the race, and you'll have plenty of speed at the end. Yeah. Thanks for everything this weekend from both of you. Had a blast. I can't wait to do it again. We'll figure out what we can do in 2023. Go run a couple races next year.

We're definitely going to go run Wilkesboro, but good luck this weekend, Josh. Yeah. That was a lot of fun. Like I said, we, it's been a great experience both times we've went. You know, I think, like I said, he's done a really good job. You know, he kind of, even the Wilkesboro thing, he's going to you know tj's going to come spot for me next year in the xfinity series which i'm

really excited about that really that all kind of started because of wilkesboro right yes like you mentioned um getting to hear him in that environment and be around you know realize i'm like man that's he did a really good job i think i really had a good appreciation for that and it was a blast man i like said i would go do it again tomorrow all right it was laid back i enjoyed josh's a great job crew chief in it and making everything flow how it should and i know you get really nervous but if we could just skip at us and go right to the race you're i mean you're you're one of the best i mean you're probably i mean you're one of the best out there and and watching you save those tires like that and do what you do i knew wherever we started we were going to be a factor and like you said you got to the

top like three or five right there to me and that's because of what you did in the race you know and the car josh put underneath you and you took care of it but it was a lot of fun both of them races a lot fun i'd do it again t j did uh with a bodyguard did dale y'all you all during the race you know If he did, I walked over him because I never heard it. I never once. No, if anything, I got probably the most animated because I was getting really mad at the lap cars. Josh, caution. Josh has very little patience for any kind of nonsense.

Nonsense. He is like. Well, at one point, we're riding around for like four laps and you're in the middle of a three-wide and you have like two feet on each side. And you know, at that point, you're picking up all the rubber on your tires. I'm trying to clean the tires. You can't swerve because you're like. And I know that I can't say, hey, hit him.

hit that guy. Because you know what would happen? Yep, you would do it. I would do it. So I knew I couldn't say that. So I'm just like getting more and more angry the whole time. But no, it was fun. It was fun. It was fun to know to if TJ's performance earned him a boat dale. Yeah. I'll tell you, I'm maybe a camper now. I mean, it's cold. I don't know a boat. Hey, I'm getting rid of my pop-up to get this new camping world. Tag along. It needs to sleep for at least. Yeah, it does. I'll just let you have my pop-up. It's worth about 300 bucks. Good job, TJ.

Hey, you know what? I just got the boat out of the lake. I'd let you borrow my boat during the wintertime. Yeah, sounds like a great time. Nice cold. I got my shorts on ready for it right now. You're good. You're from Buffalo.

Jeremy wants to know if TJ ever wears pants because even on door bumper clear, it's never... I do. It's just not quite cold enough yet. I don't plan on standing outside, so I'm okay. When you go to the Bills, game you wear shorts too? Absolutely not. You prepare for the conditions accordingly.

Did you check in on everybody back home after the big snowstorm? Yeah, I mean, the football team got out, so I figure everybody's okay. Yeah, I mean. That's all that matters. You still got family up there, though? Well, they're a little south of there now, but everybody's good, and, you know, that's a lot of snow. Well, I appreciate everybody tuning in.

A lot of fun doing these live segments here at Dirtymo Media at the Bojangl Studio. Thanks, Josh. Thanks, T.J. for coming through. We had so much fun at Florence. Thanks, Steve Zach Rice, and everybody at their team, thanks Flo. everybody all the drivers and teams that came out from every every series to be a part of that that was so much fun just watching all that go down yeah so many people packed house 3,000 fans in the stands they were turning people away I think at 2 o'clock really two or three o'clock that's I hate to hear that man but it was so full that's a good problem to have we're going to we're going to do it again and we'll keep you all posted and come out and check it out it's so much fun going to these late mall stock races really laid back some amazing racing

That race, even as a fan, I think it was just a fun race to watch, a lot of passing, a lot of drama. There's another one at Southern National, Sunday. That's right. Sunday, Southern National win should be a great race. How do people watch that? They got their own stream. Yep, they have their own thing. It's on Southern Nation something.

Yeah, S&Park. It should be on the website. It's a fast high bank place too. It wears out the tires. So Diaz, the boy that parked his car on the front straightaway, mad, because he got spun out and all that. His dad runs that racetrack, and Mason will be working the facility. Is he racing in the race as well? No, I think he's kind of stepped back from racing there to...

That's so interesting to me. He's a... So Mason Diaz. He's fast. Yeah, he's a fast driver, but his family runs this racetrack, so he steps out, and the whole family comes together to sort of put this whole Thanksgiving classic on. We've raced there a good bit, and, you know, Mason's always super hands-on with it. It makes me like Mason a lot more seeing him in that.

He's mountain tires. He's selling gas. He's riding the four-wheeler around, blowing rubber off the track. Yeah, so he'll be, I mean, he's got a busy weekend coming out of. Well, he made a little ass out of himself at Florence, but he's really a good kid. Yeah. We like you, Mason. Yeah.

I mean, he got wrecked and he wasn't happy, so, I mean. You can't park your car and get out of it. I mean, I know. I'm just saying he just wasn't happy. He'll live and learn. He parts it on pit road in the way, too, so he did it twice. Yeah. Well, it's like a race winner butterbeens in the chat right now.

All right. Hey, congratulations to Butterbean. I've raced him a lot. Good kid. really wants to try to make it in this in racing and it works hard at a great attitude Is that his first race with that team?

You know what else makes you mad? What? Is we were in front of I know, man, cooppel at that point? Oh yeah, I'm telling you, I know, I'm sorry, it's my fault We should have won the race.

We could have won the race. We could have won the race if I knew what I was, if I'd have used my head. That just means everybody executed it, at least from mine at his point. I didn't execute. Twenty laps ago, I didn't execute.

I did not execute. Did TJ execute? T.J. Executed. Josh executed everybody across the board except for me. Listen, we had a shot at it, man. Twice. Twice. I got to calm down, man.

I don't get to, you know what? I was telling you after the race. I was like, racecraft, right? My race craft was real shitty at the last 20 laps of that race. And race craft is like a knife. You got to keep it sharp. Yep. Yeah.

All right. You can't just jump in a car and not being in a race car for six months or 12 months and think you're going to drive this great race, right? You're going to make mistakes. And if you don't keep racing. We had to go at that point. There wasn't any chilling, so I was okay. Look, you messed up a little bit?

I got to be smarter off that corner and know that I don't need to push it that hard and turn that guy around. That's racecraft. That's trying, you know, got to sharpen it up a little bit. Two late model races in 25 years. Yeah. They went okay. Yeah, they went okay. We'll get better.

We can't keep those, I can't keep, you know, making those mistakes. I got to be aware of next time. I left both those tracks and woke up the next day, looking back and thing. That was a lot of fun. Yeah, it was. Josh, the chat wants to know if there's any innovation on. Dale's car in that race. Nope, that was the same car that I've ran.

Same car we took to Wilkesboro, same car I ran a handful of times at the beginning of the year. A couple years old. No, it's a new, we built it. This year? Its first race was at Florence in February. I actually won that race, and then we took it a couple more times. And then Dale ran at Wilkesboro.

Good. Well, we'll get some more races out of it. Yeah. All right, y'all. Y'all have a great week. Have a great weekend. Happy Thanksgiving to everybody. Be safe in the holidays.

traveling around, seeing your family this weekend, and go see Josh at the racetrack at Southern National on Sunday. There's a lot of racing there Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Go check it out. It should be a lot of fun. If you get through that, if you can get off the couch after Thanksgiving, go see it. Check it out.

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