The Dale Jr. Download - Bonus: Speed Street w/ Former F1 Driver & Current Music Producer Jaime Alguersuari

Episode Date: May 5, 2023

The month of May is HERE and Speed Street is back with Conor Daly and Joey Mulinaro to welcome the neighborhood into the greatest month of the year. Conor and Joey break down Conor’s rough weekend in Barber including his contact with Graham Rahal during Sunday’s race, which 1980s Indy 500 segment should be brought back to the TV coverage, their thoughts on the first episode of 100 Days to Indy, and Conor shares his experience from Nitro Rallycross’s summit even in Las Vegas including meeting Dana White.Then, the guys talk with former Red Bull Junior F1 team driver and current music producer Jaime Alguersuari (@squire.music) to talk about his experience signing with Red Bull when he was 15, his quick turnaround to getting an F1 seat, the difficulties of racing at Toro Rosso, how the development drivers are programmed like machines to win, and shares his frustrations of leaving the sport. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Hey, Dirty Mo listeners, this is Dillon Hart Jr. It's May, and you know what that means. The Indianapolis 500 is just around the corner. Thankfully, we have Speed Street with Indy Car Racer, Connor Daly, and comedian Joey Mullenero. They're going to get us ready to go. Follow Speed Street so you never miss an episode and get ready for the greatest spectacle in racing,

the Indianapolis 500. This is a production of Dirty Mo Beatty. Alas, we have turned the calendar to the moon. month of May at Indianapolis and across the globe, but most importantly, in Indianapolis, the 107th running of the Indianapolis 500 is mere weeks away. We could not be more excited about it. Thanks for being with us here on Speed Street. I'm Joey Bolanero. If you're new to the show, thanks for being with us. Of course, with Dirty Vault Media. We got Connor Dealey, we'll get to it just a second, of course, the co-host of this program. We got another great guest on the show

today. Formula F1 driver and current DJed music producer, all things really great snake pit style music, house music you could say. Jaime Alguishwire is on the show. That's wrong. It's all right.

Jaime Algaswari. Shit. The American community. We keep that at the show. Alge Swire and Algariswari. I was actually looking forward to this moment because I did I, it's a very hard to pronounce name. I even asked, I will play a clip really quick.

We had a friend of the show, Will Buxton. I asked him, I said, hey, we're going to interview Jaime, but please send me a voice note to pronounce his name. And so this is what Will Buxton sent me. Jaime Algaswari. So it's hi me, like, hi mate. And then Algaswari, like a shirt on Algaswari. Oh, Shwari, like a Schwalma Cabab.

Like a swarma cab. So he's Will Buckson, the chief of pronunciation of Formula One drivers. He did help us out there. Very excited about that guest. It's an awesome, awesome interview. Yeah, it really is. He's very open about his experience in Formula One. And that's a bad broadcast move by you right there, Conn.

We would make sure you get the pronunciation. I'm supposed to be the broadcast guy. I'm not in the first two minutes. It's hard. It's all right. They got stuck on other things. But that is Connor Daily here right there. Connor, how we feel it, man?

May is here. You feeling good? Yeah, it's great to finally get to May. I've never been honestly more excited about it. This year has been just absolutely disastrous in every possible way. But the light at the end of the tunnel is here. The month of May, you know, after testing two weeks ago, you know, the little fire are burning in the soul very, very bright because you know that, hey, we got a wagon here at this

track and it's a good wagon, the bid nile.com wagon, which might have a new livery on it for the Indy 500, no big deal, where we won't say too much about that yet, but we might have a, you know, a little paint scheme in store, who knows. But it feels good to get to May, the Indie GP even as well as a race that I've had success at and love this track. So can't wait to get there. Our season starts now. That's what people say that have had bad seasons to start. Well, I mean, we all know.

The month of May is practically a whole season to itself. I mean, between the GP, like you mentioned, and then you have all the weeks of practice, and then the biggest race in the world. And, you know, so it's a whole season, whole race into itself, obviously. Couldn't be more excited about it. You mentioned the little paid job on your car. Just to start it real quick, just before we got on here,

Junkos Honger released Canapino's livery for the Indy 500. And it is a pretty slick looking ride. Did you see it? I did. I think it looks great. Again, that guy, Augustine Canapino, and obviously people got mad at me for calling him, Angus Halpino. That's my favorite nickname of any driver.

Forever angus Halpino, a great driver, a great guy too. I've enjoyed getting to know him. He has so much popularity across the internet. I've realized that if you look at anything that IndyCar ever posts, every single comment is an Argentinian commenting for Augustine. So, I mean, huge support. So to see him have the football club on the car, I mean, it looks great.

I think that's a great representation. This is a world-class event, the Indy 500. You know, we have many, many countries represented. I think it's fantastic. Great, great stuff from that team. Yeah, so like Connor mentioned, if you haven't seen it yet, go check it out. It is basically the kit, the way you see for the Argentinian football team, football club, who just won the World Cup this past summer, or is it a fall?

No, it was like fall winter. Yeah, it's in recent. Yeah, yeah, it was like because they push it back. So it was fall winter 2022. That's what it looks like. and it is a real slick ride. Hopefully, maybe, hey, maybe he can get messy out here, you know? Hey, that would be big.

Yeah, Nelson, man, and we get messy all the red carpet, maybe waving the green flag or something. Let's bring them in. Let's do it. If we get messy to the 500, that'd be a big get. That'd be a big get. I'm not going to lie.

That guy can barely leave his house from what I have videos I've seen on the internet. So I think that would be a huge get for IndyCarve. Yeah, all kinds of exciting things going on for May, man. And it's definitely here. We got street signs going up downtown, Indianapolis. We've got Rev this weekend, which is going to be a great time. You know, it's all happening. We're ready.

I took my son to the mute. It was actually both he and I's first time inside the IMS Museum yesterday. We went, we actually went through. And it was fantastic. Like, I knew that it was going to be, but I hadn't yet been, you know, I go to the shop, all the time, you know, because I got to get the merch, which the merge in the gear this year is just, I got to sprint out of there before I spend, you know, my mortgage on, on $805,500, you know, individual driver and also just the 107th running gear because it's really,

really cool. But I took a little Frankie man inside the museum yesterday, man, and it was, dude, I didn't know that they had the simulator in there. I did the simulator. You ever, you have you done that? I mean, you've done it. No. One inside the museum? I try to stay out. out of simulators as much as I can, but it. But hey, the museum is up at a high level now. It's, I respect what they got going on in there. It's beautiful. It's super cool, super historic.

He took photos with Rossi's winning car, with Danny Weldon's winning car, with, you know, all these, Bobby Unser. And then you go back into the back, and they have an actual, like, sim to do for qualifying laps, essentially, around the speedway. You ride with Scott Dixon's car And I did it You qualified? Did you qualify?

No, dude, I didn't. They had the top eight scores on the board and I didn't make it. If people already didn't have enough respect and understanding for how difficult it is through what you guys do in real life, I suggest one going into the IMS Museum if you haven't because it's dope. But then in the back, go do the simulator

because that is an experience. It is tough. I love it. I was not good at it. But yeah, so we're doing those kind of things. We're going to the museum. We're going to the main street on Speedway to be able to get to the mood for the month of May. But we did have a race since the last time we chatted Connor and wanted to get to it briefly here, talk about Barber.

You know, an interesting race in terms of you had Penske, all three of their drivers using, you know, kind of the three-stop. Not kind of. They're using the three-stop strategy. Romon puts it on a poll for the second time this year. It was unable to come away with the win. Again, a nice little battle there with him and Scotty Mac, kind of St. Petersburg-esque. I felt like everybody was kind of walking on pins and needles.

I'm like, hey, don't do what we did down to say, beep. What was your thoughts? Oh, man. There was a lot going on there. I mean, the barber race in general, when you look at it, there's a lot of fuel saving. If you're going green, you want to try to make the two-stop. strategy work, there's a ton of fuel saving. And so kind of right when that race starts, you see

everyone gets very, I would say aggressive right out the gate because, you know, everyone's close. So you want to try to pass people, but you have a fuel number to hit immediately if you're trying to pull two stops. So it was a challenge for some people. I would say, you know, there's one manufacturer that is making mileage a little bit better, I would say, than the other right now. and and so that kind of makes it interesting. You know, for us, we could not do, we could not make the mileage. I don't know, I don't know what, I don't know why. But, but we switched to a three stop pretty quickly.

And actually, when we did that, we moved up a lot. We set the fourth fastest race lap, I think, and started moving forward on the Reds after our first stop. But then I got caught caught with Ferrucci, which is obviously our favorite driver. and to make a strategy like that work, you can't get caught in traffic. And I caught him in, we must have caught him six to eight seconds in several laps. So he was going very slow. But Barber is not a great track for overtaking.

If you don't have a good mechanically, you know, if you can't rotate the car very well in traffic, it's hard to pass the straits are not long enough. The braking zones are short. And so, yeah, so got into a battle with Santino for way too many laps, ruined the first part of our race, essentially. You know, tried to get him back eventually, and then he decided to drive across my front wing and break the left front of it a little bit. But to be fair, I did block him earlier in the race too. And I think we made light contact.

But after that, my tires were shot. had to kind of get into a different strategy again, but pitted and came out, you know, ahead of a few cars. We were, you know, we'd come back from last. We were all the way back and last moved up to like 19th or 20th. And then, yeah, we saw the video of Ray Hall driving me off the track. And again, he came like, he didn't like that I tweeted that at all. He sent me a text very, not a good text because he did come up to me.

the race and apologize, and it's not on purpose, which I understand, but like, it still happened. So, like, I am obviously going to be upset about it. Like, I don't, I mean, any driver would be upset if they got run off the track like that. Like, he got loose and went in, and went to the side of me pretty hard impact. Um, but, uh, but yeah, Ram not happy that I said, I didn't say I was maliciously driven off the track by the 15. I said, I got driven off to track by the 15, which is a factual statement. That happened. Graham Rayall, friend of the show, friend of mine, friend of the family.

But these things we will get over for sure. But I am obviously still upset about it. Anytime you get hit like that, that sucks. So that was not good. That basically, that finished the race for us. There's no passing at this track. Well, there were for some of the cars up front that were in and out of some. I did see some battles, which was great.

Some great passes from Grojean and Scott McLaughlin and Christian Lundgard. But overall, it doesn't feel like a great race to me ever. I don't see a ton of overtaking happening. But yeah, interesting race. Not my favorite place. I literally hate Barber more than any other place, I think, on the schedule. So I am happy to be out of there.

And I felt bad for, you know, we struggled in general. You know, Renus on pole there last year and, you know, it was tough this year for us both. I think he had a great qualifying lab, though. Got to give him credit for that. Great qualifying lap. But we're just ready to get to Indy. So that's what happened. Crazy to see Grojean finish second again, though.

I mean, good, disgraceous. He reminds me of Vitor Mera. Vitor Mira, if you're new to Indy car, Vitor Mera used to finish second all the time. And Vitor Miro, a great driver as well. So I do think Grojean is very, very close to being on the verge of winning, pole position as well. He's doing great.

That team, Andretti, doing solid job in general. So got to give them credit for sure. Yeah, I mean, wouldn't be surprised to see him being in contention here in a couple weeks at the GP, you know, the road course there at Indies. So yeah, I'm with you. You know, it felt good that that was on the last day of April because now it's just totally, you know, last year the race was on May 1st down there at Barber. So it was a kind of weird little drizzle over into the month of May. Now it was just a clean slate. Leave it in April.

behind and we move on and we move on to the month of May. So something that I've been doing, to start off this month, has been just going back and watching old 8500s. It's fantastic. I used to do that all the time, by the way. I'll never forget, a quick story. I, before my first Indy 500, 2013, I was living in Europe. I was still racing over there, right? But I knew I was doing the 500. I watched so many old Indy 500s. I watched as, as many as I can find on YouTube, just to get myself deep in knowledge, but also just it was invigorating. Yeah, no, absolutely. And that's what I've been doing. It's kind of what I realize now, it's like, you know how in December, like after Thanksgiving, you know, you get to December,

you're always wanting to watch Christmas movies. You're always wanting to watch, you know, the 25 days of Christmas. Even if you've seen Elf a million times, you're going to watch it. You're going to listen to Christmas music all that month. It's at the end of the month. this is what we're doing now in May. We are putting on every chance we get old Indianapolis 500s. We're listening to every Indy 500 podcast that we can do and think of. And we're consuming all of it because this Disney month for that and for the 500, of course. And it also doesn't happen that my son, for whatever reason, just does not want to sleep at night right now.

So I went down in the living room with him at 3.34 in the morning. And what else am I going to do other than play the night's the 85, Indy 500, right? So anyways, I've been doing that and it's been great. But it was I think like 4.15 the morning yesterday. I was watching the 1989 Indianapolis 500 and I was taking in the full pre-race coverage and everything because these are all on YouTube. And the funniest thing, like, I just found this portion of the pre-race show so funny. And I wanted to play it back for you guys because I'm just going to play it and let it ride for a second and then I'll explain afterwards. But here it is.

1989, Indianapolis 500. Take it away. Thanks, Jerry. The cars are now lined up on the whole stretch, silent for the moment, but very soon they will roar into line. Let's take a look at the 11 rows of three that will stream toward the green flag. On the poll, the defending champion of three-time winner Rick Mears broke his own one and four lap records here two weeks ago and qualified. He is the first fan at Indianapolis to hold the pole five different time. Alongside after a four-time winner,

he turns 50 tomorrow. Away from the track, he enjoys snowmobiling and Chama, New Mexico. So hold on, as he's doing that, like they show the flip screen, like they show the photo, and then they flip it the box style 1980s, so 1980s, and shows a slow motion of

answer on a snowmobile going over the snow. No, no, If you go back and watch this, like, they go through the entire field this way, right? And at some points, they're talking about, like, let's see if I can find it. Like, a guy's a wine connoisseur. There's Derek Daly right there. What did they say about Derek Daly? He's a former emphy champion in Dio.

He's sweet. Great podcast activity right here. He podcast radio. I know. Dane is in the center of the role. He plays soccer to keep in chase. He plays soccer to keep in. It's shame, dude.

I like you like this. You know? I like it. It's hilarious. We need, yeah, we need every driver and then their odd casual hobby. Like, Connor Daly, likes collecting Pokemon cards on the side and has a fancy collection of graded cards. I like, 100%.

Like, I was telling Rye my wife about it. She was like, oh, you just know that there was some producer back in 1989. That was like, we got to humanize these guys. Yeah, yeah. We're going to show the one. random hobby that they have when they're introduced in the field of 33 um

Joseph Newgarden runs a YouTube program on the side and Alexander Rossi he keeps his adrenaline bug by flying through the air air waves that whole thing I mean Alexander Rossi doesn't like the public yeah

you got a very funny one yeah go go back I was like man that's what I thought I was like what would it be how would it be if they did in 2023. No, that'd be awesome. We should definitely do that. But that's a real treat. Go through the whole field. It's only like eight minutes into the video where they start the 1989 Indianapolis 500. They go through the entire field. And some of the things that they mention, you're just like, what are we doing here? And Michael Dreddy actually makes an appearance because when it gets to Michael Andretti, they're like, and the 10th row, Nashville, Nathan, Philadelphia, Michael Andretti. He enjoys watching hockey with us. Marco and it's just them together.

Marco's like three years old or whatever. That's incredible. But these are the things that you find when you are a new dad and you're bored and it's four of the morning and you just want to consume as much of Indy 500 as you can. I love that. And, you know, speaking of IndyCar television program, and we had our first episode of 100 days to Indy, Joey. First of all, going up against the NFL draft, a lot of people who were in my DMs,

which I do appreciate it. I do get a lot of messages from folks on all forms of social media about the show and commenting on activities that they see. And a lot of people had asked, why on earth are you up against the NFL draft? And again, I have no idea. But it's very IndyCar. But this, again, this isn't on purpose.

It's not like people are like seeking out big events for us to compete with. It just happened to be bad luck. Like, realistically, the Thursday night, like, Thursday night evening television is probably like good, it's a good hour of television to have. You know what I mean? So I think it's definitely not bad for the future. And to be honest, when you look at how many people actually watch the show, I'm actually very impressed with how many people watch the show because we had almost like 385,000 people or 350,000 people, depending on who you add it up or who you watched over the weekend or how you calculated your numbers.

But I'm not going to lie. That's like the same amount of people. people that watched some of our races, like, that were very low-rated at times. You know what I mean? Like, we, we should actually be thrilled that there are that many people that watch it and hopefully some new fans as well. So I would love to know, I think I clicked on the hashtag because I watched it already, obviously, at the premiere, but I watched a little bit of it at the airport because they didn't have a rental car for me, so it was sitting there for quite a long time. And I, I, I still look at it and I think this is well made. It's not a program that you're like,

wow, this is made by a bunch of dudes with cell phone cameras and stuff like that. Like this is a well done program. They do a good job with it. And from reading through the hashtag, like a lot of people using the hashtag to tweet about it, a lot of positive response. I would say more positive than some of our very critical IndyCar fans would be sometimes. Would you agree?

Yeah, definitely. And that was my thoughts too. I mean, I watched it and I thought it was super well produced. I thought it built a drama. You know, because again, we talked about it. You build those characters and building the drama. And then, you know, I already know what happened in St. Pigey. But I saw all the edge of my seat of like, oh, wow, how are they going to tell this?

And one way we can get behind the scenes, it's going to make you say, oh, shit, you know. So I really, really enjoyed it. I was entertained. I learned new things about each of the drivers that they highlighted. And like you mentioned, you know, yeah, it was only. Scott, Joseph, and Marcus pretty much, but, you know, there's, there's more episodes to come. Right. Yeah, yeah.

And part of doing these kind of shows is you have to dive in and develop these characters, which these guys are, you guys are. So, yeah, and I got a quick, Alexander Rossi and I flew to Vegas on Monday right after Alabama for, for the Nitro Rallycross Summit with, uh, Travis Pastrana invited us out there to check out with his due series. It's going to get into it. I'm going to get into that because there's a really cool stuff happening there. But Alex had the second episode of the show on his, I guess he got a little preview.

Well, he got the whole thing. But I didn't listen to it, but I did happen to over the shoulder, just have a gander at it. And again, it looks great. I think there's, what's interesting is Alex made an interesting point. is like there's a lot of the actual race, right? And again, this is for, I think, fans that don't watch the race, right? Like, we need people. And I don't want to say it's for those people because it's for all of us, really.

Like, it's for the fan base. It's for people that support our sport. But, you know, people might have missed the race. So, all right, now they get to catch up with the race what was happening and also see what's going on behind the seat. So, you know, it's mainly Texas, right? You get a great look at what Patto's got going on in his life. a little bit of Colton.

And so yeah, there's some cool stuff in that episode. And again, I'm excited to watch it as well. So feel free to stay tuned. And again, I think they're going to get a little bit more open as the month the May begins, like not focused on just certain drivers. I think it's just more so the event and like what's happening in day-to-day activities. But yeah, we know that there's, for the first couple episodes, focused on certain certain drivers, creating characters.

I noticed that in Barber, it looks like they were following Augustine Canapino. So it looks like they're trying to mix in some rookies as well. And obviously, he's got a big following in Argentina, so that helps. But yeah, I would say we can be happy with this product, and I do hope that it continues to go. This is something that we want to go further. that like let's say it gets on to another streaming service in the fall, right? Well, people can still watch that that might be newly exposed to them, be like, dang, this is like really cool.

Like, why haven't we known about what's going on here? So that's kind of what we're hoping for. But then, of course, there was news that Vice was going bankrupt, which is another whole other story. And I was just like, goodness gracious, this is so indie car's luck right now. We're involved with a poor guy. I thought Vice was doing a great job producing and getting into that. We won't get into that because we're not experts, but just keep watching the show and keep us in business.

Always something, man. Always seems to be something, that's for sure. We're trying hard, though. I know, I know. And it's a good point because then if that does happen, though, it's in the fall. Then people are like, oh, what's this? And it's like, oh, wait a second. That's coming up, you know, here just a few months talking about next year, you know,

and then you really grab people. So that'd be great. Should we get to Highmate? Yeah, yeah, we can, I think we should get into it. We'll have a couple things to talk about afterwards, but this is a great interview. Really, really want people to give this one a chance, listen in. I think if you truly appreciate our sport overall, the sport of driving, being a racing driver. and again, I try on this show to get like just, just let people know the honest side of it.

And again, not a lot of people like that, but the true feelings of what goes on and how we are, I guess drivers are treated sometimes and the interactions that we have. I think this is a great look and a tough look at Formula One at racing, but a great, great. story. So, so yeah, let's get Jaime Albeshwari. All right, ladies and gentlemen, as mentioned, a very, very special guest this week, a very, very talented guest in multiple different ways. I did put it out on Twitter to see if anyone could guess who this would be, and no one has got it right so far. This guest was a Formula One driver. This guest was at the time the youngest Formula One driver

to reach Formula One part of the Red Bull family Formula 3 champion if I'm correct as well and basically a musical genius as well Jaime Algaswari thank you so much for being here

I don't even know where to start because there's so much but how are you right now how's life in Spain what's going on thank you man thank you I'm glad that we're having this conversation It's been a while that we haven't seen each other. It was very nice to see that picture that you sent me the other day, actually. I actually remember that.

I think it was in Brazil. Yeah, I think it was in Barcelona, like preseason testing or something like that. But like 13 or 14 years ago. Oh, yeah. You were just a kid. I was. I was. You too, but you're younger than me, so it was a good fun to see that.

I'm good. You know what's funny, though? Yeah. I'm not that much younger than you. Like, that's the crazy thing. Oh, really? Like, you're 33, right? I'm 31.

Oh, on that picture, you were looking like 16 and me, like, 9. I know. 25 or 24, you know, like. I know, it's crazy. I was racing in GP3 at the time, and it was, you know, it was one of those things that I had had some friends that were big fans of yours, and I was like, I got to get a picture with this guy, you know, and it was cool to see everything that you had done.

I mean, it's incredible. So let's get right into that. making it to Formula One as a very young person, right? Like you were on this road of success. I mean, I remember the story like, holy crap, this guy's like, boom, right in Formula One, here we go. But tough, difficult era, I would say in Formula One as well. Very difficult era. And the Toro Rosa team, probably not the most successful that they could have been.

You know, difficult times. What was that like to be thrust in that environment so early? Because I know that I was trying to get to the same place. we were all trying to be Formula One drivers back in the day. Yeah, well, I mean, for those of you who are not very familiar with the Formula One system, you know, I was involved with this junior program in this energetic drink brand, which is Red Bull, and they're very famous for, you know, being very strict on how they manage drivers and what they are asking for.

So basically I was I was basically called when I was 15 years old after my season in go cards in Europe and I was signed up to this junior team I started to do Formula Formula Renault 1.6 then I did Formula Renov 2.0 and the goal was very clear was just to win anything that was not winning was not good for them and it was very

like crystal clear so all the goals were winning or being in the top three at least for the first year. So, you know, I was like, you know, when you're that age, you just, you don't even think about Formula One because everything, it looks like very kind of far away. You are thinking, like managing things like step by step. And of course, you know, like putting the pressure on you, but understanding that there is, like, potential in here to do something big. But, and you are, and of course, you're being very fortunate because, you know, our sport. is a very expensive and unique and exclusive sport.

It's not like tennis or golf or football. So you understand that these people are putting a lot of money behind you and they're putting a lot. You know, you have this responsibility of delivering results and so on. And all of a sudden, you know, it just worked out. I mean, I was doing the job. I won British Formula 3. And I think, you know, Connor, one of those things in life

is not just being talented or being special. It's especially being at... the right spot at the right place. So I think this makes the whole difference. You know, like Sebastian Vettel was at the right time, at the right place, upgrading to Formula One when Trorozzo had a good car to being in Q3 consistently, and so on. You know, Mike's first happened upgraded to Formula One when, you know,

Trooso didn't have a very bad car, and then Red Bull Racing was amazing. So it's all about the momentum and the time being. And at that time in 2009, they decided to upgrade me to Formula One. and gave me that seat that I replaced Sebastian Burde. Well, actually, they were not very happy with him, with his performance at that time, and they replaced him, and they put me in. And it was, you know, for me, it was very harsh

because I didn't know the car, I didn't know the racetracks, I couldn't even test. It was, they threw me in the middle of the season. So it was a very tough, like, very tough season to start with, you know. Oh, yeah. I mean, that's so hard, because jumping, First of all, Sebastian Bordei, that's hilarious because I've obviously now raced with Sebastian Bordeaux for many years.

My first IndyCar podium, he won the race. Oh, okay. But not a big fan of his. He blocks a lot on the track, no big deal, a lot of trailers. Anyway, so difficult to be thrust into a new car, because especially as a young person, right, we're just thinking, yep, whatever it is, doesn't matter, we got to get in and drive. But that car, I obviously only did very, very little Formula One testing, but there's so much to learn.

There's so much to know. There's so many things. And again, you're exactly right, that Red Bull environment as an onlooker, right? Like, I always dreamed of being sponsored by Red Bull. I thought that was the coolest thing ever. But having known a lot of drivers who were in that system now, it's not really like the best system for drivers who can need to learn or like who have time to learn. Right. Like I think if you don't do it immediately, like you said, you're out.

And that's a lot of pressure. So when you got in and you started seeing however things were going on, the car might not have been the greatest at the time. But I guess did it seem like they were going to give you the time at first? Did it seem like, all right, I'm going to get a little bit of time to understand what's going on here because you were so young? Well, you never know in Red Bull. The funny thing is that I've been racing all my life with Checo Bedev.

Yeah. I've been beating him every time. And the funny thing is, all my respects for Checo, of course, he's a good driver. But the funny thing is that he would have not last, you know, with all the ruling and all the strategy that Red Bull junior team and managed by. Exactly. With all the ruling and the strategy they had, Checo would have not last a minute in that system. Yes. Because it would have sack him out in the first year straight away, Formula 3.

Like, you don't win out. and I'm very sure if in 2008 I would have not won the championship and they were going to throw me out and that's crystal clear and the funny thing is now Czechos driving for rebel racing it's been quite successful so it's unbelievable you know what I mean so they spent so much money on drivers they spent so much money on you know this junior team and yeah we made it maybe five six of us but it's so difficult to predict what they're going to do,

what they're going to decide, how they're going to react. So I was never sure. Honestly, I got a receipt of call from Jitrich Matashits, the founder of Red Bull, which he was not really into it because he has technical people who are taking decisions for him, like Mr. Orner or Helmut Marco. But this phone call kind of called me down a little bit

because, of course, I was thrown into the lions without, you know, fedding me anything. So it was, it was very, it was very difficult for me to perform, to outperform my teammate, of course. You know, I was like always behind him the first half of the season. And then the whole story changed in 2010, of course. You know, I was trained. I had the knowledge of the tires of a Formula One ecosystem, which is very different to, you know, that, very different to any junior formula. So I could have, I first thought that I had the weapons to defend me in that ecosystem. And I started to make my first points, even though the car, of course, was lacking performance.

But, you know, it's always the same story. But yeah, I outpace my teammate at the end of the year, out qualifying him at the end of the year, the last six or seven races. So scoring points consistently, which was good. And then we were looking better for the next following year, you know. So there was some progress in there. Now, looking back, after everything you just said, would you, would you do it all over again that way? I mean, or would you, what would you want to change? Yeah, that's a good question, actually.

I mean, everything turned out to be, I didn't like the way I finished my Formula One career, of course, not at all. I was not expecting that decision on December 18th the way they did it. They've made sure that me and Buemi had no way to negotiate with other racing teams. So, you know, I had the opportunity to go with Lotus because I had this contract coming in, but I had to sign with the same weekend in Abu Dhabi. I said no, because of course, you know, we were doing a great job. In 2011, we were doing especially the last seven races of the season. We were putting the car into points.

We were beating Schumacher, Mercedes, forced India at that time. We were beating Saober, we were beating Renault, like teams that had much more budget than us. So all in all, we were doing a great job as a team with less budget, you know. And I was not expecting that decision and the reasons why they did it, you know, saying that, you know, we are replacing the drivers because we know that they're very good drivers, but they're not winners. Like, what is the criteria behind that, you know? Like, can you please tell me after six years working with me and Buemi, especially Buemi, as one, I don't know how many world titles in touring, sorry, in Endurance cars and Formula E,

all the racing series. So it's stupid. So they replaced us, they put other drivers in, they don't beat our score, and then they upgrade them to Rebel Racing. So what's the difference here? So what in which sporting criteria are you judging your drivers and you're saying that they're not winners? you know, if we are, if we kind of showed that we have done a better job than them. So honestly, I have my thoughts about Formula One and how it works. Yeah.

You know, I feel I'm a very fortunate man. I am very grateful for the life I have been living there. You know, it was a great adventure. But, of course, you know, I was very ashamed and frustrated of how it all ended up. Yeah. I don't think, I don't think it was the way to, to, to, do things to be honest, you know? Yeah, yeah.

No, do you still follow the current F1? Are you like, you know what? I do. Fuck you guys. No, I do. And I mean, I'm a good friend with Carlos and I wish him the best, of course, because, you know, I rate people at human beings. And I think after all, this is a sport.

And of course, you know, I won the very, very best for this sport that has given me so much. Yeah. And it's getting trendy again, especially of the new, you know, of the, the new direction and the Netflix series, of course. Everything has changed in Formula One in the last years, and I feel has been for good. And there is a new trend in Spain. Fernando has a great car again. So everything is kind of growing up, and I'm happy about it, of course.

Yeah, it is wild to see the direction that Formula One is gone. I mean, the popularity, certainly here in the States is like nothing I've ever seen. Looking back at some good moments in Formula One, What would you say, whether it was some of your best qualifying performances, some of the points, finishes, what would you say would be like the top two feelings that you got from racing in Formula One, whether it was qualifying sixth, I believe, in Belgium or, you know, finishing in the points at certain places? What do you think were some of the best moments that you got to enjoy as pure driving, like a happy driver? Yeah. Well, you said that, I mean, that quantity.

SEPA was very special for me because the truck was wet and it was drying up very fast. I was in Q3 because Q2 was in the wet and then I was expecting that it was that time to put slicks but it wasn't sure that these situations if you don't have a very competitive car is actually good. Yeah, yeah. You have more weapon, more human weapons to defend yourself, you know, in a way. So I finished P6 That lab was actually very good Considering the conditions

And it was the best we could do of course No yeah There was no chance to improve that Unfortunately I think Sena or someone Crashed into me in turn one and that was over for the race But the qualifying was amazing And in terms of race I think it was One in Korea with P7

At that time We were just slightly behind Mercedes It was the first year, the second year of Mercedes into Formula One. I think 2010 was the first year. 2011 was the second year. And we were just slightly off, like, about two, three-tenths. It was a little bit more in qualifying, but in race space, we seem to do a better job than them, especially with managing the tires.

And it was the first year, I think, of DRS and CARS or the second year. So everything was very new. Yeah. I remember I overtook Nico Rosberg in the last lap. And I knew I only could do it at that time, because if I was doing it earlier, he was going to pass me again. So the move itself was not very spectacular, but the way it happened and the strategy was actually nice. So I felt quite proud. Obviously, for us, you know, for those of you who are not very familiar, for us, being in the points was like a race win.

So P8, B7, anything above than that, it was just feeling like great, you know. What do you think about the current kind of explosion of Formula One in the United States and the different races that they're starting to host them here? Well, I think it's amazing. I mean, I'm very glad now it's managed by Americans because you guys know properly how to do shows and entertainment. You are the, I think the founders of entertainment. And I think now, yeah, of course.

I don't know, man, Spain party's pretty hard. Oh, yeah, but it's different. It's different. You guys know how to do spectacular things make look spectacular and big. And it's all about this. You know, it's an entertainment. And I make music and I try to entertain by, I don't know, like making people happy and enjoy and dance in the crowd and festivals.

But Formula One is a sport that people has to feel attached with it. And now, you know, the reality show at Netflix, everything is happening in a way that it's attracting people, that all these synergies feel like something new happening, you know? And I think it's an evolving sport. It has to evolve. Everything changes. Everything has to evolve and everything has to kind of develop itself.

Unfortunately, there are some things which I still don't agree, like the sound of the cars, which is bad. Yeah. It's really bad. I don't think it's the way that it should go because obviously atmospheric engines I think it has something special and the way that you connect with people with frequencies

and sound super special and you have to connect with that and the other thing for me is that I don't know it's just the way the way it's set up with aerodynamics and should be more human less a little bit less robotic or engineered

because we are losing the essence here, you know, always winning the guy who is with always the fastest car and so on. Even though we have seen like the thing that the whole grid is getting narrower and it's more competitive now, but still, you know, downforce and aerodynamics are still taking the advantage here. So. Exactly. I mean, it's fascinating that you say that as well. It's all, it's all fair points. I completely agree. Sound huge. Important. I still wish, like, the most popular videos that you see on the internet randomly are old videos of Formula One cars when they sounded incredible. And, like, everyone's like, wow, it would be so cool to see these.

You know, it's like, yeah, imagine if that was now, you had all the people, all the popularity, and you had screaming engines just, it's an argument that we will never win. But, you know, I completely agree. So moving, like, I guess from Formula One, it's hard as a driver to fully just like, like, like, like get away from it, right? So like you kind of, you spent a little bit of time doing some Porelli testing, right? A little bit of Porelli testing. And I saw some formula E stuff as well, a little bit of formula E stuff. But for the most part, like, you kind of just, like that was it. Like, was it in your mind? Like, hey, I'm ready to go. Yeah, it's music. And then the music was your passion. And was that a pretty freeing feeling? Like you made it to the top of the sport,

top of the world. And now, you know what? I'm going to do. something that just makes me happy. Is that, is that something that was, was that kind of the feeling? The thing here is that, Connor, you know, when I started in a junior program when I was 15, these guys, they designed me to be like a machine. Like when you're in Red Bulls, you are, they design you to be like a bad human being. You know what I mean? Like, they design you to be arrogant. No happiness, no, no, no, no. Everything is bad. Like, even when you win, you can't be happy. Honestly, like, he didn't even congratulate you when you were actually scoring points or it's incredible. Yeah, nothing is good. Nothing is enough. So keep on pushing like push, push, push,

and you felt like that anxiety, but you left you, you were living with that anxiety, you know, you were, and this is the success of Max Berst tapping because he lived in a family where this was his everyday life. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. pushing him every single day, testing, testing, testing, go cards, and even the win was not enough. So that was like the feeling I always had inside Red Bull. So they were designing machines to be perfect, to develop drivers into Formula One and win World Championships.

They were developing machines, actually. And once this happened, and I was out of the Red Bull era, Yes, I was called by Pirelli. I was developing tires, but then, you know, I was asked money by Formula One teams to raise. And all of a sudden I started to ask myself, do I really, like, do I think that I have to look for money to raise? Do I feel like I am part of all this ecosystem? And the most important question, do I feel connected with this anymore? Of course, Formula One was not an option anymore, especially with a good car.

So I went to LA for, I don't know, a couple of months with my ex-girlfriend. You know, I was staying there and had a thought on what do I want to do with my life. I received a call from Formula E. They were building this car, electric championship. And I was like, well, I'm not really motivated about the idea, but let's give it a go. So we can say at least we have tried other racing series, right? Yeah. Just in case.

But honestly, I wasn't really motivated to do other things. My head was because I hadn't finished business in Formula One. I couldn't believe that everything just stopped on my best peak time, performance, technique, professionality. I couldn't believe my eyes that all of a sudden this was like blown. When I was bidding my teammate, I was putting the car in the points. I was beating world champions. I was like, dude, like, give me a good car and I'll show you that I win with races.

Like, are you kidding me? I hear you on that. But the frustration level was at another planet. And it was a very, it was probably the hardest. No, it was actually the hardest time of my life. I mean, I was employed by the BBC to be commentator. I was only 22 years old. It was like 10 years ago, 11 years ago.

and I was like, what am I doing here? Like six months later, I'm scoring points and all of a sudden I feel like in a commentator booth behaving... At 22. Yeah, behaving like a best. And I'm only 22. Like, this is not my life.

This is not when I live, you know? So I was crying around the corner, like suffering a lot. I didn't want this life in myself, you know? And that's why I had to stop for some time and think what I wanted to do. Formula was a disaster. The cars were, it was the first year of the season, so many, many issues with, of course, you know,

you would expect crazy. And of course, it's not really racing when you drive electric cars because you're not really kind of push. You have to regenerate energy. So it's another mentality of racing. So, yeah, I mean, at that time, I was like, well, what are the options? I tried GTs. I did a couple of races in Germany.

just sharing seat with someone else which is like an amateur and so on and I was like I have not been designed to do this with my life I mean it's not that I want to put less value on other people or other racing series not all my respects for every kind of racing series

but I just I was not feeling motivated and I was not waking up during you know in the morning like this is my dream job so at that time I was like well I'm only 24, 25, it was like three years after. And I said, okay, this is not working out. I'm feeling bad. I have like a lot of anxiety. I fainted out in in Moscow. It was like this race where, you know, something happened to me and it was like kind of scary. So at that time I said, you know,

my body is asking me for something else. I have to stop this. And I really know what to do. because I have a hobby, which I love, which I feel super connected with. And, you know, Connor, if you don't enjoy behind the wheel and you don't put your helmet on without a smile, what are you here for? I don't think it's just a question of money, not at all. You do this because you love it and you risk your life because you kind of feel connected and passionate about it. Otherwise, it's better to do something else in life, you know.

So that's what I felt. You mentioned that you had that hobby. Now, when you were a kid and Red Bull is training, you'd be a machine, were you disconnected from that hobby? Was this something with music that you grew back into, or is it always been a part of your life? I mean, music has started in my life when I was 15. My parents used to spend their holidays in Ibiza. In the summer, they used to take me. So I met a lot of friends there.

So electronic music was kind of a thing going on. and I started DJing, buying records. There was a huge culture behind it, you know. And I was feeling attracted by this world, by the sounds, by experimenting in the studio, creating and, you know, producing tracks, sending records and demos to labels, independent labels that they were releasing, you know, a couple of records a year. So it started to work out in a way, and I wanted to make sure that it was happening under an alias. And under my real name, that was the whole nice story here.

And, yeah, like, I had some clubs and promoters that started me, started to book me. And I was just enjoying, you know, I was feeling connected with that. It was like a way to communicate with the world with my language, I don't know. That's awesome. I think it's super, it's super special to find what you love to do for sure. Like, I'm very lucky to be where I'm at for sure in racing and to even have been here as long as I am. as I have, but like, you're right. Like, you have to love it. There are some moments, there are some elements of the sport that I definitely do not like now. And I've got enough

experience now to like, just, there are parts of it that are just like, all right, that sucks, you don't mean. But there's still the pure driving element that I'm very much enjoying. But to have the music, I mean, that's fantastic. Is there any, like, I see you do some carding and stuff like that now every now and then. So you're still, you still do like some of the pure driving aspects, right? Like, there's, there's, there's, doing the music, that's what's, I assume, puts the food on the table, you know what I mean, and then, you know, you get to go car racing as well. That's, that's got to be fun. Parting is the essence of motorsport, and I think it's the root of every single racing driver.

Yeah, for sure. We must defend that. We must never forget that, that we all started there. And for me, I believe I have my best memories of racing in karting. Carting is a carting. is born in Italy and every manufacturer or almost every manufacturer is in Italy. So everything is very close from Spain, Italy. We have now amazing race strikes here. The cartoon culture is huge and it's getting amazing. And I've always loved and felt super connected with that. Indeed, when I was in Formula One, I was still racing go cards and doing World Cups in KZ1, you know. So this is the best training for a Formula One driver. This is the best, I would say, relation between a racing driver and a racing car. The feedback is insane. I think it's the closest thing to a Formula One car,

a KZ1. So I have fun. I enjoy. I smile. And that's the reason why I did a couple of races last year, even though, of course, I feel now a little bit the age and the fact that I'm not as trained as before. But I have enjoyed. I did the World Cup in Le Mans. Last year, I made it to the final. I was like three tenths off, which is a lot. In GoCard, three tenths is quite a lot, especially at that time. But now, you know, I sometimes go with my friends. They enjoy.

We have some laps. And it's about that. You know, it's about enjoying life. You live only one. So make sure you get the best and the most out of it. Now, in motorsport, obviously, we're indie car folks. Joey's, we're big indie car people now. Was there ever a time where you might have watched IndyCar or there was a communication with any race teams?

Was there any IndyCar, I guess, like just a quick little glance. Like, oh, maybe maybe that's interesting. Because like 08, 9, 10, 11, like, those were difficult. Like, I would say those weren't, like, 11 was a successful year for IndyCar in about 100th anniversary of the Indy 500. Like there was a lot going on there, but then there was a new car in 2012. A bit of an interesting era. But did you ever communicate with any teams on the IndyCar side? You know, Connor, I think one of my mistakes was not to have a proper manager or someone who actually helped me out to look somewhere else and guide me.

You know, in music, you have like people who advise you where to go or what to do on what to do next, which record label you should sign with what collaboration you should be looking at, what kind of new influence and so on. So maybe, because I did have many meetings with Formula One teams and they were asking me, you know, like, oh, we can give you this seat as a reserve driver or being at the simulator and we can give you this money and so on. At that time, you know, you're 21 years old. You're just thinking about, guys, if you give me that Red Bull seat, like, you're just going to see what's going to happen. And you know, because you've been, you know, I was working with the simulator a lot and I knew how much town force they had and the differences between their. an outer car, you know. Yeah. So it was a mistake, of course.

You know, you don't get to see that. Buemi was definitely smarter than me and he knew, okay, this happened to me, I'm going to stay as a third driver, anything they gave, they give me, it's going to be fine. And you deal with other things in life, but when I was that young, I was only thinking about driving and winning. And whatever was not in Formula One was nothing good for me. So maybe I should have had someone who were kind of helping me out on advising me and helping me out on thinking what would be the best way to move out Formula One and just feel happy and find happiness on on racing again, you know, on feeling motivated and connecting with what you're doing. And yeah, I think, I think this was what was missed, you know.

Now as a music producer and performer at DJ, have you heard of the snake pit? No. The Indy 500 Snake Pit, no? What's that? Oh, I'd set up your alley, my friend. It's a huge, a huge concert or our own little music festival inside the Indianapolis Motor Speedway during the 500. Yes, it happens inside of turn three from 8 a.m. until like 2 p.m. and the race starts at noon. Oh, that's nice. We have to get them to book you next year.

We're going to get you locked in. Do us a favor of look that up after our after our will be lost here. I will. I'm going to be there. That'd be great. Nice. When it comes to the Indy 500, is that like, first of all, like, do you do watch it? Is there, are there any Indy car drivers that you've communicated with over the years or at least that, because there really hasn't been, I guess I would say a ton of Spanish drivers that have been over here that much, right? So I, but does it

come across the radar at all? Like is it something that's like, yeah. It does. I mean, it does especially. I have a great relation with Oriole Serbia. Oh yeah, of course. And he's been telling me a lot about IndyCar since many a friend, Oriole. Yeah, he's an amazing guy. And he did FormulaE and we were also

you know, teammates, well, not teammates, but we were racing against each other at that time. So we have a great relation and whatever I know about IndyCar is because of him. Yeah. And of course we have Alex Palo.

I don't get to know him much because he's much younger than me and he kind of is from another generation. But it's great. Very good driver. Yeah, it's amazing that we have Spanish drivers doing so well in IndyCar and,

but honestly like it's not very followed and known in Spain. Yeah. You know, I don't think IndyCar here is very, because I think it's, the states are the states and you have your things which are very amazing, you know, and it's a tradition, you know, like IndyCar is huge, I think, in the States. But in Europe is like another dimension, like they follow other racing series. Like, they can't really understand what's the secrets of driving on an oval track. They would find it

quite weird, you know? Why would people go and watch cars that go around all the time, you know? and things like that. But again, Formula One was never understood back in 2005 in the States. Yeah. They were not really, that was not really appealing at all, you know? Well, they still don't. They just love Netflix shows. Yeah, exactly. They still don't. They just love TV shows. And, you know, so, yeah, I would say that. No, it's interesting. Alex Palo has been very, very good. I guess in that era, over the last 20 years, you know, there really hasn't been a ton. So having Alex now and Oriole, like, Oriole has been a that I've raced against the 500, been very good.

But it's cool to see that you at least, you know, hey, Alex is definitely a different generation, but got to represent for Spain. So that's really cool. I, for some reason, my honest opinion, I didn't know Alex at all. I thought he was from France at first. And then I had no idea when I met him when he came over. I was like, oh, you're definitely not French. And so that was kind of hilarious.

I always tell people that story. So do you get back to the States much at all? Do you stay mainly in Europe as all your shows in Europe? No, no, no. I've done actually two tours. It's been a while now since the pandemic I haven't back. I did went to Miami for a music conference in March and Art Basel a couple of times. But yeah, I used to do two tours like around Chicago, New York, L.A., yeah, San Francisco.

I went to Burning Man. So yeah, I mean, it's a huge community and it's, you know, Detroit is in Chicago probably is the place where house and techno, like this specific sound was born. And there is like a huge followership, you know, about this. So I have a big, big fan of many American producers and, you know, it's great to be in the States and play music and meet new people. And, you know, I always love and enjoy to be in the States. I would actually love to live there.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, hey, man, there's some fun stuff here. It's all good. Yeah, I know. Like, we're about, well, before we wrap up, you still keep helmets around the house. Is there any photos? Like, because I thought you had really cool helmets, by the way.

Like, for the Red Bull driver, like, you had some good helmets. Like, were there some, are there still helmets around the house? Or what are? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, they are. Okay, good. You know, I have to be honest, like, for the first two, three years, I wanted to dislike after Formula One, especially, I would say after my retirement,

I wanted to throw everything away and give everything away. Like I wanted to kind of disappear of the world. Yeah, yeah. I was so frustrated and I was so embarrassed and I was so like angry with the whole thing that I just wanted to forget about my past. If I would have a button where I could press

and forget all the, thoughts and memories and results, I would have pushed it. But then, so it was a long psychological process for me to accept what happened. And then at some point, I started to understand that life is not about that, you know, and that there are many great things and positives to understand of what happened. But it took some time. Yeah. Because you had expectations, you know.

Hell yeah. Couldn't believe it. I mean, honestly, on an emotional level, like, I definitely understand that because I think there have been many moments. My career has been a grind in itself and putting it together and really trying to do it because you know you can do more than what you're given the ability to do, whether it's a car or a situation, whatever it is. Like, I definitely understand how, you know, not a Formula One, obviously, I did not make it

there, but like even on the IndyCar side, the professional side, there are many moments where it's just like, man, this is really tough to stay driven to do it because you don't have the right chance or the area. It's just not the right environment. And so it's a crazy thing about our sport. It's it's one of the most difficult sports in all the world, whether you're an IndyCar driver, Formula One driver, NASCAR, just being a driver, the right place, the right time, the right situation, the right everything. And so I really appreciate hearing your story. I knew this would be a great, a great interview because I obviously do, I'm a racing, I try to know everything about racing and I like to do my research and just understand what's going on out there because this

sport is so deep in, I would say, history and, and cultures and all kinds of stuff. So I really appreciate you coming on. And hey, if anyone is looking for music, squire music all across the world. Thank you. I appreciate you coming on and honestly would love to have you 500 sometime and or if you want to come hang out. Thank you. I will. I will. I have to say that I feel very happy to be at your show, in your podcast. And I am very surprised also because I have always had a feeling like our sport was about individuals, egocentric individuals who were looking just about themselves or at least that's what my idea was of this. and how it was raised, you know, within the Red Bull family.

So for me to be interviewed by you, who is a great and successful racing driver now in IndyCar, and the fact that you are kind of giving this possibility to show fans and people who follow you about our world is amazing and is great. So cheers on that and well done. Hey, thank you. We'll take that. We'll take that. Well, thank you so much, man. And, you know what? We'll see you on the interwebs and we'll see you at the racetrack at some point. I'm sure. Thank you so much. Hi. May Albuhrari. Pleasure. So.

Well, as we said, I really hope people enjoy that interview. Fantastic chat. I mean, Joey, you obviously, you know, probably didn't know who this guy was at all. I text to you guys saying that it would be quite an interesting and different guests. I mean, what did you? What did you? What did you? you think of what Jaime had to say. Was it, was it as interesting to you as what I thought as what I thought it was? Yeah, definitely. I thought it was a really, really open and brutally honest look into Formula One, at least back when he was driving, especially about a certain team that he was talking about. It was pretty prominent. And so, you know, I feel like, and obviously he's not a current active driver. So, It's different, but I feel like we talk about it a lot about how drivers in a lot of different series can kind of be guarded, can kind of be shielded a little bit. You know, they have to kind of tow the company a line.

So it was very interesting hearing its thoughts with him not having to do that. Yeah, fascinating. And I just, I love the honesty. This is what the show is all about is honesty. So Red Bull, the Red Bull system is just very aggressive. I mean, we've had a friend Robert Wickeens has been involved in the system. Scott Speed was in the system. People that I know very well, you know, Daniel Ricardo, obviously, a good friend of mine as well.

Still in the system, he's there. But, yeah, very, very interesting to see how it works. But, yeah, great, great interview. One thing that we got into, we mentioned it briefly before the interview, what went to, had a little trip to Vegas this week, just a little quick 20, 20, or so hours in Vegas, Travis Pastrana sent out a little message saying, hey, we're having a little Nitro Rallycross Summit. And we like to talk about all forms of motorsport on this show, really. We stay to the main three, but Nitro Rally Cross is still a form of motorsport, very, very cool. And

Nitro, they've rebranded as Nitro Cross, which is cool. Nitro Cross, cool logo, simple. And that they got bought by Dana White in the Fortita Brothers, like Fium Capital or whatever it is. That's huge. Like Dana White, I mean, they sold UFC for $4 billion. So like, I think, I think it's pretty impressive what Travis has going on. He seems super motivated. If we got any Rallycross fans out here, it's going to be awesome to see what they have in store. And, man, going to a summit and kind of like listening to what people say about where they're going to go with the series or how they're going to market it and stuff like that. Boy, a lot of what I heard, I was like,

when you listen to Dana White, some of his partners talk about what they're going to do and like how they're going to market it and what they're, it's like, oh, I think IndyCar could learn a little bit from this too. Like it was, it was something. I was literally, I would slowly look over at Alex and we were sitting at this table and we were like, oh wow, this is really good. Like, this is really smart. So interesting stuff, but IndyCar is definitely getting it.

They are getting higher on the social media platform. them. I have to give them a lot of credit for pushing social content. They're doing it. They're pushing that video Graham reckoned me several times, which I think is hilarious. Because again, he's not going to like that, but it's just what happened. But yeah, interesting stuff. I would say be on the watch for what Nitro Cross is doing in the future. Some really cool race cars, some really cool racing, and just shows in general. I think it's awesome. We got to go to one, Joey, sure. Yeah, I mean, anything that Dana White ties his name to, especially now, seems to have quite the success and make Buku Bugs. Yeah, exactly. Definitely want to take some notes, you know,

bring the yellow note pad to when that guy's talking about how to promote and market something for sure. Pretty impressive. Good stuff. Was that, was that Rossi's Bachelor Party? Or what was that? No, no, no, no. We literally just went out there for 20 hours. Rossi's Bachelor Party is definitely not going to be in Vegas, probably going to be more of an international location, who knows. I thought I heard rumblings that it was Vegas here coming up for, uh, oh no, not for a long time. We're letting the season go by before we do that. I was like, that's kind of interesting timing there. Yeah. All right, man. Let's, let's hop in. It's been a full show. A great one to kick off May.

We got to finish with our Ricky Shredway, random Mn, 5,00 driver of the week. But before we do that, We have gained new listeners and followers. This is what the numbers say, which is good. But we have gotten messages here recently about who the hell is Ricky Treadway? So do you take this one over and explain? Yeah. So what's funny about this segment is we do call it the Ricky Treadway random 8500 driver of the week.

So if you use your Google machines, maybe you just Google him and you'll find that he is a random 8500 driver of the week. So when we, in the very young hours of the show, you know, our very first few episodes, So as we came up with this segment, and I thought Ricky Treadway was a random Indy 500 driver that you might not know about. And so that's what this is all about. So if you don't know a name, feel free to put it in the Google machine. But yeah, Ricky Treadway, he was a driver when I was growing up that, you know, I cheered for, you know, I was cheering for the underdog story at times. But that's it.

So hilarious to receive those messages. That's kind of where this segment started. Boy, are we going to continue it right now? I had Joey Pick a year. We went with 1949, which we have done once before, 1949 in D-500. And we went with the 20th place finisher, which I believe is a new driver for us. George Fonder, George Fonder, the 20th place finisher. Hopefully we have not used him yet, but George Thomas.

I think I'll remember hearing this name. I don't know. I don't know. I don't think we have. Ben, you can check for us. No, no, I said I don't. I said I don't. Okay. Old George Fonder from Elmhurst, Pennsylvania. American race car driver. Looks like he, it's funny on the Wikipedia, which we use as a informational source, that's really cannot be, cannot be confirmed or denied, or it is what it is.

Looks like in the 1949 Indy 500, the 1952 Indy 500, and it looks like 1954, it says, question marks. We have no idea what was happening there, not sure what was going on, but it looks like two Indy 500s. And yeah, that's our guy. He had four championship car starts, which is what they basically call, I would say, IndyCar at the time. Two Indianapolis 500s drove as a relief driver.

Ah, that's what the 1954 is. Drove as a relief driver in 1954 for two different teams, after failing to qualify his own car. So there you go. And sadly, RIP killed in a midget racing accident. So was racing midgets and killed in a midget racing accident aged 40. So RIP George Fonder, and that's it. That's random, huh?

That is absolutely random. That is the whole point of the segment, and we look forward to it every week. There is no doubt about it. All right. That's it. That is this week's episode of Speed Street upcoming this weekend. The RET Rev is going on, which is a fantastic event to kick off the month of May out of the track.

How are you going to be there for that or no? Absolutely, yeah, going to Rev, bringing my lady going to be a great time. And it is, it's going to be fun. It just kicks it off. Alexander Rossi is the chairman or whatever. Alex Rossi has never been to Rav. So, funny how that works, but he's the chairman guy. So it's going to be a great time.

It's super fun. Hopefully you'll see Connor out there. I will be at the Kentucky Derby getting my drink on and getting my gambling on for different horses, which I cannot wait. So it's unfortunate because now I go to Kentucky Derby every year, but I do have to miss Rev because it's the same weekend every year. And I do really, really enjoy Rev because it's fantastic. It gets the juices flowing. Oh, yeah. There, it's great.

A lot of juice. cocktails and everything. Absolutely. So hopefully you're going to that. Say hello to Connor if you are. One more time, we appreciate Jaime. God, I fucked it up.

I don't. I think you're going to get it. You can get it this time. Oh, shit. You said, you said, Jaime Al-Gashwari. Hiveishwari. We appreciate.

Jaime, Al-Gaswari. A super nice and super, super-charmin fellow. and we are officially in the month of May, folks. It is great to be here, and we cannot wait for the rest of the month. Great things in store, and we'll talk to you next week to preview the GP at the Indianapolis Flores Speedway on Speed Street. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram.

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