The Dale Jr. Download - Bristol: We’re Talking About The Wrong Thing
Episode Date: April 15, 2025Dale Earnhardt Jr. returns to the studio after racing in Georgia this weekend and reacts to the NASCAR race at Bristol. With most of the industry discussing how to fix the NextGen car’s short track ...problems, Dale Jr. weighs in with his takes:· CARS Tour and Dale head to Cordele· Kyle Larson puts an Xfinity Series target on his back· A weekend of Larson dominance· What can we do to fix the NextGen car’s aero problems· A total lack of passing and action· Promoters won’t stand for this much longer· Grading the Cup field so far in the seasonDuring the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, Dale Jr. took questions regarding:· Traveling in Canada· Rafting adventures· A Kyle Larson sprint car wing panel Dirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They’ve got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuff.And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call (800) 327-5050 for 24/7 support in Massachusetts, or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hey everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download. It's Tuesday and it's dirty air. And I'm going to be doing this one by myself. T.J. is out of the office today. And he's recovering from a little illness. We're wishing him to well to get better fast. He'll be back soon. Travis is in the studio. Everybody else is here. And we're going to get started. So let's get to it. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm still sour, man, that I wasn't your best man at your wet.
When will you start mentally, like, getting ready for the race?
Can you not tell I'm mentally ready?
Travis has some dumb ideas, but I agree with them on this one.
You don't sound like you know what you're talking about.
You haven't scratched the surface yet, no, boy.
I mean, what the fuck do you won't?
I just think the last few laps, it was just like stop every time.
You're picky.
This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker.
All right?
This ain't Burger King.
Travis is like, you wrap this up.
They all have no fun around here.
All right, so a lot to talk about.
And Kyle Larson will be calling in later in the show,
and we'll have Ask Jr. as well.
First off, I guess we should get to the Cars Tour.
I raced in Georgia at Cordill this past weekend with the Cars Tour.
We had the pro in the Lake Model Stocks.
It was a full weekend, and there was a lot going on.
And Flo did a great job of covering all of things happening throughout the weekend
and during the races.
I thought the races actually were better.
Once I went back and kind of looked at the weekend as a whole,
I was really frustrated at the end of the night, to be honest with you,
and we'll get to that.
But we had a little surprise, I would say,
pop up on the radar earlier in the week.
There would be a rather expensive testing rate.
It was hourly at around $125, $150 a car.
A lot of the tracks that we go to charge you that same price for maybe the entire day.
And so that was a bit of a surprise for our teams and me as well.
I wasn't really crazy about that, but when you look around the facility itself, I mean, this place was amazing.
They had put so much money into it.
Everything was top notch from the bathrooms to the fence to everything.
I mean, it was just really a good facility.
And our teams, I believe most of them, walked away going, man, I'd love to come back here.
This was great.
It's an extra hour or two or more for some of our teams to drive.
And they're not excited about putting a lot of miles on the road and driving that far to some of the races.
The late model stock car, the pro car runs all over the country.
Our pro series could migrate probably further out.
Maybe that's what we do with the pros.
but our late model stock has a geographical footprint that it stubbornly adheres to.
And that's maybe a little eastern Tennessee, Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina.
We had never raced in Georgia until this weekend.
So that was kind of a cool thing to take them down to Cordill.
So it opens up the idea of what we can do going forward, maybe one year, or I'm sorry,
Maybe one race per season we try to take our cars just a little further down the road to a new facility we've never been to.
But I've got to be realistic about that and not really stress our teams.
All these people are blue collar.
They have jobs, and we were not required, but we were kind of encouraged to be there as early as Thursday to practice.
So, and you feel like if you're not there and the other teams are, you're behind.
And there's a lot of practice Friday
and there's a lot of practice Saturday
and that's a whole other conversation.
We need to shorten practice up.
There's too much practice.
We all know the pavement guys love practicing.
But if you're not there
and the rest of the teams are,
you feel like you're getting behind.
And then when you go run, you know,
even second, third or worse in the race,
you chalk it up to not having as much time
to prepare and be on the racetrack as the other teams.
But we all got there Thursday.
There was an expensive rate
to practice.
that day. Some people
only practiced a few hours. There was
a minimum of three hours. Like you had to
rent three hours at minimum
if you showed up.
So some teams
just did that three hour minimum.
And then we had an open practice
on Friday as well. That was four
hours. And honestly,
we worked in circles. My team,
my team, we worked in circles. All the
setups that we run at these racetracks are
very close. We'll take
pretty much the same thing everywhere we go.
A little difference on the front stops, maybe.
Maybe the track bar is a little different.
It's all very simple, though.
There's no big swing changes that are happening in the late model stock world, at least.
I can't speak for the pros because I don't really work on those cars or drive them.
But I guess I say all that to say that from Thursday to Friday, we worked in a circle,
changing a lot of things and changing it back.
So it was really unnecessary to have that much practice.
But anyhow, you know, we got through Thursday, practice Friday.
at the end of the day Friday,
I felt like I had a top three cars
really happy with the speed. The car was turning
good. Everything was great.
And then
on Saturday, the track
really got greasy, took a ton
of rubber by that point,
and we
just lost the balance.
My car started getting real tight.
Talking to Bubba Pollard and a few people that race there
on a regular, they'll tell you that the track
does tighten it up, and
I underestimated that. I got
that advice that it would tighten it up, tighten up, but didn't know that it was going to change
as much as it did.
Qualified 15th, which I was actually really happy with.
I'm a terrible qualifier, especially in the late model stock car.
Awful.
And it's something that certainly I've got to get better at if I'm going to have a shot
at winning any of these races.
But qualified 15th, absolutely, I'd love to be faster, but that was probably an improvement
for me over the course of the last couple of years.
and started the race and built tight throughout the race.
At one point, probably 80 laps in, we were junk.
I'd piss the right front tire off and was struggling really to get turned and wasn't going anywhere.
We had a couple of red flags that allowed my right front tire to cool off and the car turned and fired off.
And I think we were going to end up, I think the last restart, we were running fifth.
And I think we'd have finished fourth or fifth.
And so that would have been a decent end to the night.
But unfortunately, the car in front of me on that restart missed a shift,
and I knocked the radiator out of my car.
So, you know, that was very frustrating.
We've had a couple cars missed shifts.
We had, I thought Tristan McKee missed a shift in a late Mall Stock race,
but he actually was running out of gas and stumbling on that restart.
And so we just had a lot of kind of not freak things going on,
but some unfortunate situations on those restarts that destroyed a lot of cars and tore up a lot of equipment
and it delayed the show.
We had red flags and we ran late and the local classes kind of in the normal typical feet dragging of the day
pushed the whole show about a half hour late.
And then our pro race, which is 100 laps, took two hours to run.
So, you know, it was just a tough night optics-wise for our viewers at home.
and for the folks in the grandstands.
But so I walked away from it a bit frustrated overall about everything,
wishing we could be neater and a tighter consumable product.
But then I heard some really good positive things from drivers about, you know,
making that extra trip or going that further distance to race there.
They thought, man, you know, I'd love for this place to stay on the schedule.
I was kind of surprised by that.
I thought they would be more like, yeah, that was full.
fun. Not sure I want to do it next year, but that was cool. But it seemed like they really did
enjoy racing there. And some of the comments that I've seen, I haven't seen a ton, but some of the
stuff I've seen on social media as far as viewership and people that were actually at the
racetrack, they really had a good time. So it was a late night, though, for a lot of our fans and
supporters. And we're working on that. We really want to be done by 10.30. So, or sometime, no
later than that, I suppose, but it's tough.
It's not as easy as it sounds.
It's not as easy as just start earlier.
We've got to consider some possible changes to our formats and stuff, you know,
to really get these races to fit into a small consumable box.
And we've got two very important weekends coming up.
We made an announcement on Friday.
I think I would call this the biggest announcement today.
and pavement short track racing.
No question.
We're paying $50,000 for the late model stocks to win at Hickory in the throwback
Classic, and we're paying $30,000 for the pros to win on that same weekend.
I don't think that there is another $50,000 paying late model stock race in the country in the calendar year,
and I don't think there's another $30,000 pro late model race paying that in the calendar year.
What did the winner get this past weekend?
10.
And the pros got less.
So it might be seven.
Might be $7,000 to win.
I don't know.
You asked me a question.
I didn't have an answer.
So I work, I think we did, I know that we paid $2,500 to start, which is almost twice what we normally pay, because they were going to further distance.
It's a core deal.
I tried to get the bottom of the purse up.
We're paying $2,500 to start at Hickory, too.
So not only is it the highest paying first place prize, but,
We're paying really, really good money to start the race.
People aren't paying that to win at the local level in some instances, $2,500.
So, man, that announcement for Hickory is as big as it gets,
and we'll see how the industry supports it.
I'm hoping that we get 120 cars, you know, roughly 60 cars per.
class pro and late model stop.
I don't think that's ambitious, but I'll be disappointed if it's short of that.
There will be no support classes at Hickory, so there's like, you know, no other local
classes running that particular weekend, so we'll have the entire property.
We're going to need it, I feel like, to fit everybody in there.
And I encourage anybody that has a car to come try to run this race.
And we're not going to have a big gimmicky heat race format or anything.
It's going to tear a bunch of stuff up.
there'll be a last chance race more than likely to give those guys a real opportunity
at a good sizable handful of spots to fill out the back of the field.
And we're still kind of working on that format a little bit,
but it's going to be relatively basic because I don't like, you know,
a lot of heat races and a potential to destroy a lot of cars for guys that don't end up racing in the main event.
But either way, I just encourage all our car owners to try to come out and make the trip.
support raises like this.
If we get a low car count, the people that are making this possible are not going to want to do it again.
So, you know, I'm anxious to see.
I know the fans are going to come out.
We're going to sell a lot of tickets.
We're going to do a good job.
That will all work and do well.
And I think the streaming number will do well.
So those boxes will get checked.
But it really comes down to, like, we talk about high limit and the amazing job that high
limits doing and the amazing job that they're doing all throughout dirt um from mill bridge to
everywhere right running all these little micros and all these races all over the country that
why it goes to they have awesome Tulsa shootout they have awesome car counts they have a lot of
people that they that those owners and those cars they that's what makes that work and so that's
why they're able to have success in the dirt worlds because there's a lot of people showing up to do it and so
So those introphies and all that stuff adds up.
You know, so that's how the promoters are able to continue to have these incredible events
in that form of racing.
And that's what it's going to take for us to kind of get over the next hurdle or, you know,
in pavement short track racing, is to get our car counts up.
And, you know, so paying more money in an already challenging economical format or, you know,
ecosystem.
The late model stock is relatively expensive to run.
Now, as you get to pro and super late models, it gets even tougher.
But that's a big deal.
Plus, we have Wilkesboro coming up where we're going to have the Wilkesboro
late model stock race on FS1 during the All-Star weekend.
It's on Friday night.
And I'm going to be in the booth with Kevin Harvick to simulcast that on Flow and FS1.
So a couple big things going on in the cars tour.
Connor Hall won the first.
race. He'll be disappointed if I don't mention that. So our team at Junior Merit Sports has
gotten off to a great start. We are a strong team. We've always competed well in the cars
tour ever since we've been involved in it over a decade ago. But Conner's been a great
addition. He's a two-time national champion. So no shocker there that they were competitive. Many
Tyrell had a great race. Set on the pole again and pushed Connor to and tested Connor throughout the race.
so it was a tough earned victory there.
Yeah, but again, like I went back and Landon Huffman run third,
Landon and I were texting last night,
and he's like, listen, man, the racing was great.
I know you were disappointed about this and that and other,
but the race itself was awesome,
and the series put on a great show, and he's right.
We had a, you know, I think the racing, the entertainment was there.
I mean, it's some of the best racing on asphalt right now.
as far as just tuning in, watching guys battle it out and pass and carry on,
you won't find anything as good, I don't think, on the payment stuff.
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Moving on to the Xfinity series,
Junior road sports had a really solid weekend.
We have just really started off on the right foot this year.
Normally, you know, it's not, you know, having speed like this isn't a new thing for us or anything unusual.
But usually we don't really start to year with it.
It's kind of something we develop or something that we produce midway through the season.
But we started off this season, strong and fast, pretty much everywhere.
Went out there and qualified really, really good.
second, third, fourth, and 12th in the race.
And Kyle Larson ended up winning at Bristol.
He dominated, for the most part.
And he had some interesting words on Kevin Harvick's show yesterday
that we'll talk to him about later in the show
when Larson calls in.
I think the one thing, too, with Junior Motorsports,
is all four of your drivers are right there every week.
I think Sammy Smith is 10th in points,
and that's the lowest spot that you guys have right now.
I know.
We're excited.
And we have SVG and Chastain and other things going on with the fifth car.
So we go to the racetrack and, man, you know, over the last couple of years,
we went to the racetrack and, you know, it was a bit of a struggle getting all four cars to be competitive.
And this year, I knew it.
I told them at the start of the year at the company meeting.
I said, I'm more excited about this driver lineup than I've been in a long time.
I think we've got a real shot at all running very competitively.
And Connor and Carson, Connor Zillich and Carson Quaple are young.
They're going to have these flashes like, for example, like Connor had, like they both had at Cota.
And Connor and Carson had this past weekend at Bristol.
They're going to have these flashes where you see it.
You see the talent.
There'll be other races too where they struggle or have an issue.
I think Connor got ran into, had some car, had some damage and didn't have, I talked to his crew chief this morning, he didn't have a, you know, a top three car.
But it's fun.
It's fun and exciting going to the track with, I think, you know, you know, Justin's going to do what Justin does.
He's going to be dependable, going to be there every weekend.
And then you've got three other young guys that I think have a real true opportunity to advance far into this.
this NASCAR world and industry.
So it's pretty fun.
I'm proud of Sammy Smith.
You know, he's had to overcome some pretty tough adversity since Martinsville.
That was a really rough week.
And, yeah, he's kind of trying to build back that respect and earn back that trust
from his competitors and fans.
And he had a great result at Bristol, really solid race.
With the Xfinity race and Larson winning and his comments on Kevin,
Harvich's show yesterday.
Say he wanted to embarrass the field.
Yeah, but I want to embarrass them.
Yeah, he wants to embarrass them.
He wants to embarrass NASCAR.
And the first thing he said, I didn't like.
He said he wanted to embarrass the field, then he wanted to embarrass NASCAR, and he was
mad, or, you know, he was wish, he was not happy that they limit the races, that the
cup guys can run.
And the rest of the point he made was valid.
And he's basically saying that these kids that are in there, you know, and the kids that are in there,
think they're better than they are, and I like to go in there and show them where the
standard is or what they might be up against if they were ever get to the cup level.
And they need to know that now, right?
They need to know how much harder they need to work.
I get that.
Mark Martin was that guy for years.
He was the guy that would show up and you were like, you know, nearly impossible to beat in the 60 car,
of Winn-Dixie.
And damn, he pushed you.
He pushed us all to try harder.
We would not have raised our game had he not showed up.
Kyle Busch did that.
Kyle Busch would show up and take the money.
And it was frustrating because as an owner,
you're racing against Kyle Busch and Joe Gibbs racing.
You're racing against not only an elite driver,
arguably one of the best of that era.
and elite equipment that's still elite today.
I mean, Joe Gibbs shows up and they're hard to beat no matter who's driving their race cars.
But Kyle would just run and run and run year after year
and win half or more of the races that he competed in.
And when he showed up and was going to run first,
he knocked everybody in the field down a notch, you know?
and when you do that a lot throughout the year,
that adds up financially for those teams, right?
But he was determined,
and there wasn't nothing saying he couldn't do it,
and then NASCAR stepped in and said,
we're going to limit the cup drivers to five races a year.
And I think that that has served a good purpose.
I do.
Now, is it the right number?
Is it is five the right number?
I don't know about that.
Kyle Larson's complaining that it's not,
but he's only running two.
And he only run the two tracks that he's really, really freaking good at,
Bristol and Homestead.
He ran, he picked Homestead in Bristol
because he knew those two would be a great shot at winning.
And he wanted to win the triple.
He wanted to win two triples this year
so he could tie Kyle Busch,
who's done that twice.
And then he doesn't have another race on the schedule
and he gets out and goes,
I'm embarrassed them.
I want to embarrass them every time I drive.
You know, I wish he would sign up for some more races now
because I know one race team and one owner
and 160 employees that will love another shot.
And so, you know, I know that he,
well, I don't know.
I don't know that he wasn't trying to,
to get under somebody's skin or or or or brag and he has the right to brag but it's going to he can he can
expect that to absolutely um nerve the other teams and our team you know we we have a relationship with
them we share set up information they come they're in our meetings um and they take all the
information that we have and then they put it in his car and he goes out there and runs good right um
It was just odd.
I don't think he has a right to brag.
You're a cup driver.
You should be better.
That was the other argument is I don't know why he didn't lap the field.
Sadie was going out there Saturday in the Xfinity race to lap the field, and he should have.
And the fact that he only won by a couple seconds, you know, right there at the end,
I think Carson was relatively similar in lap time.
They ran in a bunch of traffic and it allowed the lead to close up a little bit.
Maybe Larson wasn't pushing.
But look, he had the field covered.
but he should and and he should run the way he ran.
And, you know, that is, that's the, that's the end of it.
I understand the point he was trying to make,
but how he presented it only made me wish he would sign up for a few more races this year,
so we would have a chance.
You got three more, Kyle.
Well, yeah.
And hey, he'll tell us, well, the Hendrick car is full.
They got Day, Rajah, Finch.
They got a season full.
Well, these other Chevroletes out there.
He won't be in that sweet, sweet Hendrick equipment carrying him around that racetrack.
But, hey, he's the difference maker, right?
Yeah.
So I, and the cars tour would love for him.
That's one box he ain't checked.
He went to the cars tour and raced our car, a good car, at Carraway and ran 7th or so.
So there's some mountains he ain't climbed yet.
I think he's incredible, obviously,
and he's gaining a ton of confidence.
And I like when he runs in the Xfinity series,
and I like when the Cup guys do come down there.
I was Kevin Harvick, and I talked to Justin Allgaier as well.
and I was thinking about back when Harvick came into the Xfinity series
and even when I came into the Xfinity series
you'd go to Charlotte and there'd be 25 cup guys
60 cars trying to qualify for the race.
It was insane.
There's still 36 to 40 Exfinity regulars.
And if they were to open up
the floodgates and say, hey,
Exfinity guys, run as much as you won't.
We might get back to 15, 20 guys showing up
for some of the marquee events throughout the year,
Charlotte and so forth, Indy.
I don't know if that's better for,
that's probably better for the drivers,
the young drivers, to Larson's point,
to be able to race against more cup guys on a regular basis.
But the business, you know,
I would, I would,
I would also argue that it's not a good business model for the teams that are trying to compete in the series and make a live and doing it.
Yeah, that's my thing.
It's like what's best for the sport as a whole?
Well, if Hendrick, Joe Gibbs, Pinsky, any of those top cup teams filled one or two Xfinity cars with a cup driver in it on a very regular basis,
you're talking about
on average
maybe six to six five or six spots
less of purse money
that all of the other regular teams
are going to have to
have to miss right
and have to find you know
and that really adds up
he just didn't have to say
what he said
I will say though I'm kind of glad he did
because you think about it when he won he
to the crowd he said I you know
made sure didn't win this so like maybe starting to come
of his shell a little bit and like that's a good thing oh yeah yeah i mean we need the sport to have
personality you know we talk about how we don't want to you know we don't have enough personality
we don't have enough superstars that's what superstars do um my dad said if they ain't cheering you
better hope they're booing if they're not doing anything that's the problem and so yeah i i i'm
yeah i i'm that part of me says hell yeah say what i say what
what you want to say.
Say whatever it is you believe.
But the other side of me says,
I want you to sign up for some more races.
The podcaster says say it,
and the owner says,
come for race.
Well, now I want him to come race,
because I want some more shots.
I know the rest of these people in this shop, too,
they want some more opportunities.
They don't want him.
It's like,
he's kind of like the guy
where they're breaking the fight up
and his buddies are holding him back,
and he's like, yeah, you better be glad
my buddies are holding me back.
You better be glad NASCAR's limited me
to kick him.
your ass.
Carson wants another shot at him.
Yeah, they do after he said that.
I promise you.
All of them do.
And that's a good thing.
Yeah, fire them up.
Fire my guys up.
We'll see how they do.
Moving on to the Cup race,
and we're going to talk a little bit more about Cup
and just the season at large.
The first thing I want to do is say,
if you hadn't listened to Denny's show,
Denny Hamlin's actions detrimental,
he's got a brief podcasting career,
doing a great job.
This past show, I think, was his best.
He really dove into a very diplomatic explanation of the challenges for the next-gen car at a short track.
And I thought he did a good job of being clean about it and not just, you know, dumping on NASCAR.
He was very, very smart about his opinions.
So if you haven't heard Denny's show, man, I would suggest y'all go back and check that out.
You can pick any decade in, let's just say Bristol history.
Pick any decade there have been bad races, all right, at Bristol.
We talked about Larson leading all those laps and compared him to Kell Yarborough,
who also led a ton of laps at one particular point in his career at Bristol.
Kale led every lap in the 73 race, and they didn't have any cautions.
And that was when cars fell apart,
fell off, broke, blue motors,
all kinds of crazy shit going on in the race,
and he still didn't have a yellow,
and he ran all day.
Imagine how boring that one was.
He probably won by a couple laps.
I'm sure he did.
And then Darry Walter went on a string of like nine straight wins there.
You'd show up, and he went in Junior Johnson's car over and over and over.
I think it was seven, seven or nine.
He ended up winning maybe 12 total.
So, I mean, there's been dominance,
sustained dominance.
This was, you know, Larson going in there, one,
I mean, Larson's won a few races there,
but, you know, when he, he hasn't won like six straight.
There's been worse cases, I guess, of what we saw.
And I don't mind the dominance.
I think we're talking about the wrong thing.
Cars are going to go to races and sometimes dominate.
That's okay.
You know, that night that Truex beat everybody
by 13, 20-some seconds or something at Kentucky,
remember that night?
Just destroyed the field?
He went to Charlotte, same year, I think, and led all but like six laps or something.
Just killed them.
That don't bother me.
I like to see that sometimes.
You see it in all sports.
Yeah.
I love to see a real ass kick.
We're talking about the wrong thing.
What stood out to me was the lack of excitement and drama throughout the field.
Everybody knows I'm a Josh Berry fan.
I ain't going to hide that.
So I'm watching Josh, right?
Kind of paying attention to where he's at.
at the whole race.
He ran roughly from 12th to 16th all day.
I think his average running position was 14th.
And for long stretches, he and no one else made any passes.
They would be just, I'm sitting there, you know,
they weren't really showing Josh on TV.
So I'm looking at the NASCAR app and the intervals and looking on TV.
I mean, they just sat there, stuck behind the guy.
They were stuck behind, and the guy behind them
stuck behind them. It was like nobody could go anywhere.
And that was the problem
for this race. The car
has a lot of physical characteristics that
will make a majority
of the short track races
look a lot like what we saw on
Sunday. And Denny dives into
that on his show. He said
the speed from the first place
driving to last place. One tent. Yeah.
The whole race. Dude, you could watch
that NASCAR app and
look
through the entire field from first
to last.
And it'd be like
he's a half-tenth faster, half-tenth slower,
half-tenth faster, tent-slower, tent-faster.
Everybody's just running the same damn lap time
throughout the whole field.
NASCAR's in a tough spot.
As any change that could happen
would take unanimous
collaboration with the owners.
And the owners are already tapped out on spending
and likely don't want to spend further
on experiments.
Unfortunately, I feel like we've got what we got.
And Denny even said that as well, where he says, man, I've been in these rooms and these conversations with people,
and there's really no talk about any big change coming down the line.
When it comes to racetracks under a mile in length, this is kind of what we're all going to deal with.
Denny did say that he knows of about a half a dozen things that they could change easily
that would have a positive impact on short track racing.
One of these things that he pointed out was removing and altering parts that forced this car to rely on the underbody for the downforce that it creates.
He also mentioned tires and obviously horsepower during his show.
But without question, dirty air is his number one issue.
And I find this really interesting.
He discussed how he had to run every lap at Bristol.
is really telling.
This was an explanation from him
on how to run the most efficient lap.
He has to watch the car in front of him,
and as they approach every single corner,
he has to quickly try and guess what lane that car is going to run
so that he can then choose to run in a different lane.
He has to run a different lane to have the most efficient lap
to be able to allow that car that he's driving
to gain the most downforce.
all the air that he's gaining
all the down force he's gaining
is going underneath the splitter
back to the diffuser
and if he follows the car in front of him
he doesn't get any of that air
following the lead car presents massive arrow
disadvantages and he desperately needs
clean air and that clean air
is his absolute number one focus
during every single turn
so it's zero surprise
that this car struggles at a short track
where there is minimal
room to find that clean air and drivers are in a different corner every few seconds.
Passing is a perpetual improbability and will remain that way until the aerophysics are
different than what we have today.
You know, what we do from this point, I don't know.
I don't know that all NASCAR would need to want to make a massive change and then the
owners would have to also be on board with that direction, getting,
all of those, it's very complicated.
It is not as easy as calling your buddy and say,
hey, man, y'all want to do this.
Everybody's got to get together and agree
and understand the financial risk involved.
Is everybody okay with that?
Denny talked about that as well.
So again, great show by Denny because
I feel like he spelled it out for all of us,
what we all, most of us already knew.
How worried are you, though, with short tracks
if it continues to have race like this
that we might lose some of these races.
Listen, I'll tell you right now,
Marcus Smith can't keep going down this road.
You look at the grandstand Sunday,
you see the race went,
what do you think his ticket sales are going to be like?
You think they're going to go up?
It's awful.
I mean, everybody has their opinion
about promoters, track owners.
Some love, some disagree, some don't like.
Whatever. I know. It's a polarizing conversation around Marcus, around NASCAR, around drivers, around everything. Everything's very, very edgy.
But we do know that we love Bristol. We want Bristol to be Bristol, right? Whatever that is for you.
We all want to go to Bristol and go, hell yeah, man, awesome. I want to watch it on TV.
and go damn right, love that, entertained.
What happened this past Sunday
isn't sustainable for Marcus for the track, right?
Long term, that is not a,
not a survivable scenario.
And so, I would say that he's, he can't, you know,
that's not a successful pathway forward.
So, and that might be the one thing that actually,
creates change, right?
Drivers, we can, listen, we can sit here and complain and say,
we think we know what needs to happen.
We may be right, we may be wrong any given day sitting here in this room.
Drivers, owners, fans even, right?
Can say what they want to say and get all up in a roar,
and it might not really move the needle in terms of real change.
It might not really get NASCAR's attention,
but when they see the business model struggling,
then they'll have to make a change.
They'll want to make a change because they own tracks too, right?
Yeah, I think attendance and ratings are the two things
that are really going to drive a change.
I think you're right.
And to Denny's point, hopefully it drives a change to improve
where we need to improve, which would be the short track package.
It is needed to improve for quite a while.
There's no real debate there.
hopefully we make changes to fix that because it was once our golden egg man can't wait to go to martinsville
we're always going to see something can't wait to go to bristol we're always going to see something
always going to get something fun out of that hopefully they make the change to improve short track
racing and not just move away from it i don't have a gloom and doom feeling about this
It's, yes, it's, I don't have, I think it'll figure yourself out.
I think it will.
I believe that they'll, they'll get it figured out, or something will happen,
or it'll cycle back to where, man, the short tracks are the best thing on the series.
We need more.
I know we'll be saying that again someday.
The other thing that's interesting after the race, and I love, I love this.
I don't really know that there's an endgame conversation here,
but I'm just interested in y'all's take.
There's two conversations on social media.
Social media, the rubber band back and forth on social media is so funny to me.
There's a battle between, obviously, post-race, between that was terrible crowd,
and it's not that bad crowd.
A lot of the industry insiders, particularly people that had good days Sunday,
were part of the, it's not that bad.
Then you had fans literally going,
I don't know that I've seen anything worse.
So that was pretty,
it's just interesting to me to see,
so my algorithm is feeding me both of those,
and it's interesting to see like the contrast between both.
Now, the good race pole from Gluck was an 80 to 20,
and one of the worst ones I think at Bristol in a long while.
Well, that's what Glock put one out before the race, what they wanted from tireware, like last spring, fall, or somewhere in the middle.
And it's like 50% went and somewhere in the middle.
And it's like to try to nail like to a Goodyear's defense, how do you nail like you can't please everybody?
I would have liked to have seen a race where you got to manage the tire.
I don't want that every week, but I do want some races where tire management's a part of it.
That's part of being a great driver is going, all right, man.
I can push this tire and it's going to suffer,
just like in days of thunder where they're like,
all right, here's my way and here's your way.
You had two tires there, one tore all to hell and one was still good.
I mean, that's part of becoming a great driver is managing the tire and being smart with it.
And if the tire can take it, all the abuse,
and you just go out there and run qualifying laps every lap,
that to me is not compelling, but to some people it is.
So some races, that's fine.
But I think in some races I do want some tire management.
I don't know that we really
I don't know that we produce tires
that you really have to be smart
that the tire is going to give up on you
before the end of the run if you're not careful.
But again, going back to the social media,
the other battle is the nostalgia posting.
What is going on?
You can't post nostalgia posts anymore.
People are, yeah, like if you post something like,
man, look at this is so cool.
People are like, yeah, man, get over it.
It's never going to be like that.
again. It's like, wait, no, wait, I'm just saying this is cool.
Not, not, I just like this era or what I'm watching here is neat.
You, you, well, I think there's a lot of people that post like this and like, like, why can't
we have racing like this? Oh, yeah. I know. They'll post the, you know, the good old days.
They post the one good race, but forget the following week there was a blowout. I know. I do that.
I don't see anything wrong with it. Well, I think you have to remember, though, one, Twitter is a
small percentage of the actual fan base of any sport.
But also, a lot of fans are probably younger and don't even, like, they're not, like,
love the sport like you do and, like, remember these races.
So I think they're this young crowd that it's also just, you have to have a take on Twitter.
You can't just post something and just, I just want to enjoy it.
Oh, thanks for posting that.
I want everyone to enjoy it with me.
Yeah.
Yeah, I guess when you do post something, everybody's compelled to have one of two reactions.
I like that.
I don't like that.
There's no,
oh, thanks, that's neat.
Nice post.
I do that, though.
I posted,
there's one race that I loved post.
My, my,
my,
my,
my Achilles heel of nostalgia posting
is the 1980 World 600.
Darrow Walter,
Benny Parsons,
are racing for the lead.
Bumper to bumper.
I think in the last 20 laps, they changed the lead about 15 times.
In the last four laps, they changed, or even in the last lap, they changed it two or three times.
It was just wild, really cool.
You thought, man, this guy's got the better car, and he would get ahead.
And when he took the lead, the lift that that created,
Mark Martin talks about this on social media.
Back then, the car's created lift.
He's car, once he gets the lead, his car comes out of the track, and he's sliding around.
And Benny Parsons would go back by, then Darrell would go back by, and they kept doing this.
over and over and it's like, holy-h-oh.
Now, the rest of the field was seven-p-lapsed down.
And the reason why I love posting that is not because I think that the best racing NASCAR ever had was 1980.
What I find interesting about that is how those two cars reacted to each other.
In my belief, and I will die on this hill, if you look at the downforce numbers or the lift numbers
and whatever those were for that particular car.
Now, you also have to think about the motor and the power band and the torque and the tire and what type of rubber it had
because all of those things play a role in what we're seeing in this particular race.
But I just think that if you had 40 cars on the track that were all relatively competitive,
that equation of power.
versus downforce versus lift versus drag.
That model of whatever's happening right there
between those two cars was elite.
And so I don't even know if it's,
I don't know if you can even replicate it
with what we have today.
I posted it a long time ago
and Kevin Harvick responded to the post.
He goes, I was like, man, this is epic.
This is as good as it gets.
And he goes, the third place was three laps down that day.
And I'm like, no, no, no.
What I mean is how these two cars are working together and engaged
and how they're affected by each other is what I think is amazing about this
that we just don't have.
And Danny talked about that in his show.
He's like, man, you can't disrupt the car in front of you.
You drive up to them and they don't lose air.
They don't suffer any kind of aerodeficiency.
And he said when they were building the car, there was at one point, if the car got out in the lead,
it was too, like, squirrely.
Yeah, really loose, which honestly,
sounds great.
I mean, that's kind of what you're talking about.
I remember a race, oh man, me and, me and Matt Kenseth, this happened a couple times.
So in 1999, 1998, racing in the Xfinity Series, that was a really good arrow package.
Now, the cars weren't sealed.
We've learned that.
You can't unlearn that.
That's another thing.
There's a lot of things we've learned that you can't unlearned.
And so you'll always be fighting against that.
But me and Matt would race together.
And man, you would, I'd be faster in him, I thought.
But it was actually, he was just too loose leading.
And I'm like, man, I'm better than you.
I'm going to go by.
And then I would get the lead and go, oh, I don't want to lead.
I'm too loose.
Holy cow.
You go back by.
I'm going to ride behind you.
And he's like, I don't want to lead.
You know, and we both were driving away from the guys behind us,
but we would both get out in front of each other.
and not be able to comfortably stay there.
You could try, but God, you were heating the right rear up and getting
looser and looser, and you'd have to just go, hey, man, you'd go for a little bit.
And then you'd get behind them and get tight and get comfortable
and then cool your car down and then they're up there up there,
and they're skating around.
It was awesome.
And, yeah, that's what needs to be going on.
Like, the lead car needs to be at a disadvantage.
And there is a way to find that.
There's a way toward that.
The Cup race, though, yeah, I mean, it wasn't all that great.
And Kyle Larson pretty much had a pretty easy drive to the win.
I thought Denny got close a couple times, but I knew with the, you know, the way the air works and stuff,
Denny wasn't going to be able to get by him.
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Let's move on
and talk about overperforming, underperforming, meeting expectations.
Let's go through the list of a few drivers,
and I wanted to kick this off, first off, by shouting out,
and I did this last week, I think, Collie racing.
I give them a hard time.
We race against them all the time in the Xfinity series,
and at times, man, especially like at Dayton and Talladega over the years,
they've kind of been a thorn in our side.
They've been tough competitors, and we love to race.
race and beat them and they love to beat us.
But last year, they were abysmal, awful.
I was even under the impression that they were maybe looking for the exit ramp as an
organization in the cup world.
Fast forward to right now, they bring AJ back in to the cup car.
they hired Ty
Dillon, which I didn't know
how that was going to work out because Ty has kind of been
MIA for a while and just kind of
piecing things together and struggling.
But both cars have overachieved, in my opinion.
I mean, just basically looking at the statistics
you can see a huge improvement.
But A.J. has been running great.
I mean, Tye's ahead of Brad Kislauski,
Noagraxen, SvG, Riley, Harp.
But, like, Ty is, I'll say this about Ty.
The number one trait that he has in his mind and on the racetrack is determination.
No matter what has happened to him throughout his career, he has not lost the idea in his head that he believes he can do it.
How important is that mental side racing?
Well, I mean, it's stubborn.
He's stubborn.
Like, because most people who have had the career he's had would go, man, but you guess I don't got.
it. Guess it just, you know, guess this just isn't for me. Or, you know, they would beat themselves
down. And I'm sure he's had some tough days. I'm sure he has. But when he's behind the wheel of
that car, he's a damn stubborn ass. I'm not, you know, I'm going to drive my ass off and
I belong here kind of guy. And it's starting to prove out. I'm seeing some comments on
social media. People are taking notice.
their cars are running better this year
and they should be recognized.
Damn, it is hard to be.
That is so hard.
And for an organization like theirs that's much, much smaller,
and they have an alliance with a larger team,
they're not supposed to do this.
They're not supposed to turn things around like that.
And so it is just hard to run competitive
and as competitive as they're running.
They're right up behind these bigger teams.
They're right up their ass, man.
And it's impressive to see.
AJ, I didn't know if AJ still had the drive.
Dude's getting up there.
He's done it.
What's he got to prove?
And he seemed almost annoyed to be in the Cup series a couple years ago.
Like he's just ready to drop back down that Xfinity series,
had some fun, get back to racing and running up front.
He was frustrated.
and then I was surprised when he took the role to go back
because cup racing garage is
they ain't smiling
it ain't roses and sunshine over there
that garage is tough it's cutthroat
maybe realize once he left he's like
realize what he missed and what he had
but I mean the
the infinity garage is funner
less pressure
a few people few more people smiling
he can go over there and be more competitive
probably make the same amount of money
I don't know
probably not a big difference
but he goes back to the cup series
where everybody's grumpy
everybody's mad
and he's over there making it work
it's tough I am impressed
but let's get to some more drivers man
let's see our opinions on a couple of drivers
season so far
Chase Elliott
he currently sits fifth in points
two top fives, five top tens, one finish, 20 or worse.
Chase Elliott would not be happy with that.
Neither would his crew chief Allen, but I am.
Chase is, chase to me, like whatever, you know,
this tells you how tough the Cup series is.
He got injured, snowboarding deal.
I know that's a while ago, but that little,
that little disruption sort of setting,
back and the team just couldn't really ever find their groove or find some speed or consistency
and get him comfortable.
For a while it was really, you know, it was really a struggle.
Now this year I'm starting to see that car run like you might expect it to and now they
still have some tough days.
I think Bristol they were probably disappointed for sure to be, you know, not be up in the top
10 and it was just a track position thing more than likely.
but I think that there's a glimmer of what can be for that team.
I know he's probably disappointed, but I think they've improved
and they're starting to head in the right direction.
Bubba Wallace, he's eighth and points.
He's got two top fives, three top tens, five times he's been 20th or worse.
Yeah, I know.
The statistics don't do it justice.
The eye test to me says that,
Bubba's having a better year.
I agree.
He's been up there.
Maybe he doesn't always get the finish.
Yeah.
Bubba always, in my mind, before this year,
Bubba had those handful of tracks where you're like,
okay, he can have a good run here.
He does have some history of running good at Kansas,
Talladega, Daytona.
You know, he has certain places where you're like,
all right, not surprised to see him win or running the top five.
Now he's doing it almost every week.
Now he's competitive and matching, if not beating his teammate Redick at times.
It was more consistently Reddick outrunning him week after week.
And now I think Bubba's sort of, they had a crew chief change.
Maybe some new ideas, a new energy, new excitement around what might be, might could be.
Sometimes you can change the crew chief, not even be.
putting a better, smarter guy in there,
but it's just a change.
You just need a reason to be excited, you know?
You got the fatherhood aspect of it.
Yeah, I don't think that really matters.
No?
Don't think it changes.
Fatherhood slows you down.
If anything, becoming a father,
takes a lot of your risk assessment away.
You start thinking about, man, I don't need to shoot for that gap.
Fatherhood, being a fathered does not make you.
two tenths quicker.
Chase Briscoe,
13th in points,
three top fives,
four top tens,
three times outside top.
Disappointed.
You know,
I think we looked at Chase
and how he performed
in the
Stuart Haas stuff
and we're like,
man, they were struggling,
the other cars were struggling,
but he was the bright spot.
Maybe, you know,
seeing what he did in the Xfinity car,
then he moved on to the cup car,
and he was,
would be the one car there that would get the wind, pop off here and get a win here and we're in
there, just show up someday. He's had that really fierce sort of battle into the playoffs last year.
And we're all sitting there thinking, oh, damn, he's going to get in this Gibbs car and light it up.
And Gibbs has been great this year. Denny, Christopher Bell.
I got five wins. And it's just not happened for Brisco.
Is Briscoe talented? Yes. Very talented.
they get it figured out? Will he run
like Denny and Christopher Bell?
I believe so. I just
think that for whatever reason
and he probably could tell you right now
they just haven't gotten it figured out yet.
And I mean
Ty Gibbs is a
talented driver. They're struggling too.
He's starting to find it.
He had one weekend.
He's had two. Okay,
two weekends. All right.
So hey, but I'm just saying
it's not like all, you know,
he's the only teammate running bad or
struggling. So I'll give him a little, I'll give him a pause, a 90-day pause. I'm
kidding. I'll give him a, you got that joke. I'll give him a little more time, you know,
before I start getting real critical, like, hey, what's going on? I mean, if we're sitting
here three-quarters away through the year and he's still not improved statistically, I think
there'd be like, hey, what is it? It's not him, but what could it be that he needs that's missing
in that team.
Justin Haley, 23rd in points.
Five top 20s, one top 10.
You know, I think Hosevar makes it difficult for his teammates.
Because Hosevar somehow, as goofy and crazy as the kid is, has speed.
Now, Haley had a great weekend at Bristol.
They qualified well, and they ran up front in the top 15 all weekend and got a reasonable
result. I think
they overachieved
this weekend. I know they
probably were like, oh, we're supposed to run up there.
That's how we want to run. But
from my seat,
this weekend was a big bright spot
for them as an organization
for Spire. But
Haley is going to
always look at his teammates
and say, man, you know, because they're all kind of,
so the reason with Spire,
I think we're all a little uncertain is that,
exactly how good they are, how good they can be.
And there's been some steady improvements in that organization in the last 48 months or so.
And so we're always having to reevaluate our perception of them.
And so he doesn't really truly know how good they should run.
And he can only look at his teammates and go, where are they?
And he's always probably looking at Hosevar and going, all right, that's my mark.
I need to at least run as good as him.
when he goes out and runs a lap time and puts his car,
Hosevar puts his car up to top 15,
you damn well better know that Haley's looking at that and going,
my turn, I'm going to go do that.
I better go do that.
My car should do that.
Because he has really no other gauge to judge his performance
than his own teammate.
And so I think he'd probably say,
my answer to that would be he'd be a slightly disappointed
Rodney Childers comes on board
They make a bunch of changes
Big splash in the off season
And I would
He would probably not sit here and say they're satisfied
Chris Busher
12th and points one top five
Five top tens
He's a bit off
Yeah
But that's the kind of guy
And the kind of team that could show up
And run top three the next couple of weeks
And not surprise you
But right now I would say that they're probably off
That's past weekend
they were oddly slow, right?
Not competitive.
And again, Bristol was a big track position.
Nobody could pass.
But, I mean, some people did.
He just didn't have a good car.
He didn't have very good car.
So I would say it's odd because Brad's kind of shifted to become the better car of the group
where Busher was that guy for a couple years, right?
And damn, Busher ran really good there probably 12, 18 months ago.
Ryan Blaney.
Sixth and points, one top five, five top tens.
I said this a couple weeks ago.
Blaney's had some rough luck.
They're fast.
He was fast this weekend.
They're fine.
That's why I think it's like you know that you're competing.
And when he's had the bad finishes, it's nothing that he can do.
They're fine.
They're, you know, they're an elite team.
They're a top three team that's just had weird things happen to them.
And as long as they don't get distracted by that,
they'll go out and they'll start, you know,
when the racists come together and the luck comes their way,
they'll be there to capitalize on it.
Last driver, Michael McDowell, 19th and points.
If Haley's disappointed, Michael's even more disappointed.
I could be wrong, but looking at the way the Spire cars run,
Michael's always a bit off, his teammates.
especially considering he's going over there he probably had to higher expectations than what he's been doing
yeah i'd say he's very disappointed and they're probably trying they're probably trying right now
you know to figure out like what's missing why aren't we even like able to match what our teammates are
doing you know and it's probably a couple small adjustments um i think a lot of his team and his
crew chief and feel like that they'll figure it out but right now i think he's probably very very
very disappointed.
Nintheeth in points, though.
Consider, I mean, I don't, you know, I don't have his statistics laying in front of me,
but just watching him race and seeing where he is throughout the races,
I'd say he's very fortunate to be in the top 20 in points.
All right, we're joined by Kyle Larson, the winner this past weekend in the Xfinity Series
and the Cup series at Bristol.
Awesome weekend for you.
I know you came up short again on the triple.
You'll have to give that a go.
I guess maybe next year.
you have ran two
Exfinity races this year. You could probably run
a few more trucks if you wanted to. Spire would
probably love that. But I know the
Xfinity car over to Hendrick
shop is relatively
full with day and
a couple of things they have planned.
Is Homestead
in Bristol the only two races you're running this year?
Yeah, those were the only
two that I had
scheduled. So, yeah,
it's a small team
really, the 17 and
you know they don't uh they don't have much equipment so i think you know they got to kind of pick and choose
their races wisely and and then yeah cori's got his races that they're committed to and i think there's
a few other guys maybe getting in it uh lit here too so i wasn't sure yeah i have a lot of fun
with it yeah i was um you know you picked two of your best tracks homestead in bristol and
then you got out and went on harvick's podcast yesterday and dropped a bomb uh maybe you
weren't intending to do that, but you had a point to make about how you feel like that the
Xfinity Series drivers and some of the young guys need to know where that benchmark is and need
to understand kind of what the level of competition might be like at the cup level.
And I tend to agree with the point for sure.
I raced against Mark Martin Man, and he pushed us all to try to even get near what he was
able to do on the racetrack.
And Kyle Busch did that for years.
would come in and race races and just dominate
and you knew you were running for second when he showed up
and you're that guy too when you show up and run these races
but you I think you know what the rest of the field
I'm an owner in the series and I feel this way as well
I think we'd love for you to try to sign up for more races this year
so we could have a few shots at you
to come out of the car and say those kind of things man
it kind of puts a target on you
and I'd love to see you sign up for some more races this year
so we could try to see if we couldn't even to score.
No, I mean, obviously I would love to race more if I could.
But yeah, I mean, touching on that point a little bit more too,
like I think, like you mentioned, you know, Kyle Bush was kind of that guy.
And it was more than Kyle Bush too.
I mean, I remember it would be like Kyle, Brad or Joey.
God, who else?
Matt Kinzith even ran a handful of them.
Um, you know, all, there was a lot of cup guys that ran in really good equipment. And, you know,
although I didn't beat them as often as they beat me, I definitely feel like they helped elevate my
skill set and, you know, pushed me to get better because, you know, you're only as good as your
competition. And, you know, NASCAR is limited cup guys from running Exfinity now and trucks. So,
you know, like I said, you're only as good as your competition. And when you don't allow the great
competition to come compete with them, you're just, you know, limiting the runway of those kids getting
better.
So, which in turn, I feel like only hurts the premier, you know, series down the road when those
guys aren't fully capable and fully ready for the Cup series once they get there.
So, um, I don't know if we can ever get back to what it was, you know, now that, you know,
Pinsky doesn't have a team and, you know, JGR doesn't have, you know, they've,
They have a lot of cars, but they don't have, you know, an all-star car.
Yeah, full-time cup guys.
I just don't know if it ever get back to there because of, you know, the limitations that they put on it.
But I like to take advantage of the couple that I get to run a year and try to smash the field.
Yeah, well, you did that at Homestead and Bristol.
I'd love to you, if you would.
I know you don't love the track, but you should go to Martinsville because they certainly could learn a thing from you there.
Well, I would probably get smashed there.
Everybody gets smashed at Martinsville.
You know, the triple that you were, I'm going to assume that you signed up to do this to try to knock that out in one year, to try to tie Kyle Bush and that record.
And I find that, if that's true, I find that really interesting that that clues me in to like what motivations.
a guy like you, right?
As you look at these little nuggets out there and you're like, that's a cool accomplishment.
I want to go do that.
Is there, you know, I guess since you're still on that quest, is that something that you'll
continue to focus on going into the next year or two?
I don't know.
I mean, honestly, it wasn't like the triple is not or it wasn't like the main motivating
factor to me picking, running all three at those races.
You know, it's on my mind when I select, you know, my two favorite and best tracks.
But I really just love racing those tracks is why I wanted to, you know, stack them on each other.
And, you know, if I was to win the triple and be able to tie Kyle Busch, I think that would be a neat feat.
But, you know, it's not the main motivating factor.
Maybe now that I've gotten close a couple times, you know, maybe that will motivate me even more to
try it in the future, but it's really tough. And, you know, it makes you realize like how
extremely good Kyle Busch is because he's done it twice and he's won two out of three,
you know, many more times also. So it's, it's pretty amazing. Yeah, it is. You had a great run
on Sunday. And I think that the, you know, there's a big conversation around the short track
package. It's been a struggle. Denny had a really, really solid podcast yesterday where he
outlined his opinions around the car. I think that no one in their right mind has an issue
with a guy coming into a race and dominating. We all love to see that in sports. But what I think
we look at is the racing in the middle of the pack. I'm a big fan of Josh Barry and I sit
there and watch him race in 14th all day long literally behind the same car and in front of the
same car the entire race and i'm like yeah okay i you know Kyle is great he's going to go out there and
denny and all those guys are going to race at the front of the field but what we see in the middle of a
pack is mind boggling in terms of the lack of drama and action um and denny spelled it out like
he races every lap basically going in each corner trying to guess where the car in front of him's going to
go so he can go somewhere else and um i know that you know you had success
and you probably, you know, we're in a cocoon throughout the race just driving in your own little world.
But do you think that there will ever, you know, be a way to get this car to where it might produce
a little more of a dynamic event for, you know, the fan who's watching the field from, you know,
from fifth on back?
So they're not all kind of, you know, just kind of running in line.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know, I listen to that as well.
and I agreed with everything he said.
And, you know, I'm also not an engineer, but I feel like, you know, the way he describes things and explained it and explained his, you know, recommended changes, I think would, in my head anyways, make a difference.
So, yeah, I would love to see NASCAR try.
Like, you know, I think, you know, for a long time when I was in Cup, like, we had different rule packages every year.
And it was fun.
Like it was a fun challenge, you know, every year.
And I don't know.
I feel like with the next-gen car, it's become pretty stale.
Like, for me, you know, like, it's the same thing every year.
It's the same guys up front every week.
It's, you know, it's, you can kind of predict the race before the race and what it's
looked like.
And that kind of makes me less excited about racing next-gen cars.
So, yeah, I would love to see some more small changes.
maybe some large ones,
as long as they're not going to cost the teams a bunch of money.
But yeah, and then touching on, like, Bristol in particular,
and the tire aspect side of it,
as long as I've been racing at Bristol,
there's never been, like, tire wear,
except for the spring race last year, which was odd.
But I feel like since we've gone to the next-gen car,
it just doesn't, like the track doesn't get as black as it used to.
like the rubber doesn't stick to the track.
So the pace kind of stays fast,
and it's just,
it doesn't get as greasy feeling as it does an Xfinity.
Like, Exfinity gets really, really greasy.
And like when you used to race there, you know, the top is fast,
but then it would start to slow down because it gets really hot and slick and greasy.
So I don't think we necessarily need to search for a wear,
a tire that's going to wear.
but I think, you know, trying to continue to, you know, build a tire that can, like, stick the rubber to the track, allow the rubber to stack.
Like, I feel like tires on top of rubber that stuck through track, it just doesn't grip that well.
And then we're sliding around more and we're having to slow down more and be more precise on our corners and making more mistakes.
So, which is what you see in Xfinity.
It's much harder to hit your line every lap in Xfinity.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think there's definitely room to improve, but Bristol's still fun, no doubt about it.
But, yeah, I could definitely use something to try to fix it.
I think the car side of it and then, you know, maybe a tire that could just get the track black.
That's some awesome, awesome insight.
Just really good information, man, that I think NASCAR and Goodyear can take and use.
And I know that they're trying.
Good Year's really worked hard to try to make some gains.
And we appreciate the effort there.
But I know you guys got the off weekend.
you're going to race in Knoxville for a couple nights and then go to WrestleMania,
which should be pretty awesome.
Appreciate you giving us some time today.
I hope you have a great weekend.
Good luck racing and have fun, have fun with your family.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
You too.
Thanks.
We've got an off weekend coming up.
A lot of teams are going to do a lot of different things during the Easter break,
but the Xfinity series will be going to Rockingham.
How good is that for you to see NASCAR back there?
I'm glad.
I didn't think Rockingham had a shot.
I really didn't.
It's been, you know, they've, a new group has purchased the track several years ago,
and they turned it into a multi-use venue, a lot of concerts and different things going on out there.
And they've put some of this money that they're making into the track itself.
Was it Ben Kennedy said that there's a, you know, the door is open for Cup to go back to Rockingham?
I thought that was good to hear.
Do you have any fun memory of racing at Rockham or anything?
I hated that place until the very last race.
And now I'm almost sad that I didn't get more shots at running there.
It was hard.
I went there in the Xfinity Series in 97 and drove the Wrangler car.
My track bar was dropping on the right side as we ran the race,
but I ended up running like 14th or something and struggled,
but not too bad.
Went back in 98 and 99, and I don't think anything great happened.
And I remember Harvick missing the show there in his Xfinity debut.
And that, you know, it just made me have a hard time appreciating the track
because of how brutal it could be.
Went there as a rookie in the Cup series and literally ran dead last the whole day,
busting my ass not knowing what in the hell was what I needed to be doing different but I ran
in the freaking back and then you know one wrecked there embarrassed the hell out of me
dad was killed at Daytona and then I go there and wreck in a very similar looking accident I was
so embarrassed I just wanted to be under the radar that day and just race my race and then I
couldn't have been more in front of the freaking spotlight because of all that and that's
sucked. And it was just a racetrack that I just didn't appreciate. It was hard, slick.
Finally, whatever the last year was, 04, maybe, 03 or 04, we went back there and, oh, I forgot.
I got wrecked by Kurt Busch off a turn two and then went out there and chased him around
in the John Deere car. And Tony Sr.'s like, stop with him, damn it. I was like, I don't
hear you. I can't hear your radio's messed up. He's like, don't fucking
don't tell me that. He was so pissed off at me. I was like, damn, I thought
Tony Senior would be glad that I was messing with Kurt.
But he was not, because I think the official was in his ass about it on
pit road. But I just had a lot of rough days there. And then the last race,
I ran fifth, and I had a good car, and I felt like I'd figured it out. And I
I was like, man, that was pretty fun.
And then we quit going.
Now it's got new asphalt.
I don't want them to do that.
I don't like new asphalt.
Give me the oldest asphalt you got.
That's the kind of track I like.
And I hated those trips.
When I was young and started racing in Exfiniting
Cup, I hated Darlington, hated Rockingham,
hated all the war out places.
And I ran great at the high grip, you know, repaves.
even later in my cup career
we go to Pocono once they repaved that place
man we were hooked up
Michigan repaved it
hooked up
loved it
but now I like the old war route tracks
is it just because you understand it now
just because I feel like I got a shot
I'm 50 years old
I'm not going to go out there
if you put me in Connor Hall
for example in the same two late mall stock cars
he's probably going to be a half a tenth to a tenth better
and I feel like
I can do better job taking care of my tires.
Tire conservation on those war out tracks is important.
And that gives me a shot to kind of have an even opportunity at the end of the day.
Makes sense.
He can go out there and he can hot lap and beat me in hot laps.
But lap 125, I think we're going to be about the same.
Yeah, if I'd do everything right.
Hey, everybody.
It's Dale Jr.
And we're here for the Asch Jr. portion of the show.
T.J. is out this week.
And it's just me and the guys.
and Xfinity Mobile
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I've got that stuff.
I've got that Exfinity Mobile.
I like it.
I have a,
this ain't no joke.
So I know y'all think, you know,
we just read these commercials and we just read these,
you know,
they give me this sheet.
I'm like, yeah, yada, yada, yada.
But I, and I've told you all this before.
So I got this house that we have a vacation home.
I'm very proud of it.
And I didn't own a vacation or any type of home like that until 08.
I was, so that was kind of, anyways, another story.
But it's got Xfinity internet.
And it is way out on the end of this street.
And I'm looking at the lines.
I know which line is the internet line, the fiber line.
And I'm looking at the telephone poles.
These some guns have been up there.
These 1945 telephone poles.
This stuff's old, brickety.
and my internet only went out once.
And that was because somebody backed into the telephone pole
right where the line comes down to go into the ground
and cut the line in half.
And I had to go out there and put two new coax ends on it
and fasten it back together and move it around the backside
so when they back into that pole again,
they don't cut the line.
But it is way out on the very fringes of their service.
And my cams and all my stuff always works.
I can open my app right now
look and see the front porch, the garage door.
Always working.
So it's good stuff.
I got my little sim rig out there.
I'm racing online, playing video games, whatever.
Ain't got no problems, no lag, nothing.
But I appreciate Xfinity Mobile.
I love that I get to talk about a partner that I actually use the stuff,
because it makes me really happy to say what I got to say.
Anyways, we're going to move on before y'all start giving me hell in the chat,
talking about Xfinity Internet.
for an hour.
Yeah, we got a lot of people in the chat,
including our good friend Master of Light.
They're a big BBC fan,
so it's good to see everyone.
Sitting here with my ears tucked into my hat,
my sunglasses on the back of my neck.
With my jewelry on,
watching as Junior,
Michael, you're funny.
That's hilarious.
Do you...
Hey, I got to tell y'all.
So, I know we get a lot of people
that watch or and listen to the Dale Jr.
Download.
But those,
The amount of people in the last month, especially in the last, like, two weeks, that have come up to me and said nothing but stuff about, bless your heart, has been really surprising.
I was at Cordill racing the late model this weekend and, like, grown me in my age coming up going, talking about it.
And I think the show, the show's fun.
We have fun doing it.
But I was going to be okay if it wasn't everybody's cup of tea, particularly our male NASCAR demographic.
I thought it'd be great for female demographic.
We had a lot of females watch.
But real surprised at the dudes, you know,
our good hardcore race fans that are enjoying it.
And they crack up and they'll crack a joke.
And I, man, it's fun.
So I've been enjoying that.
We got Wilmington, Oregon, Dallas.
Australia.
Indonesia.
Indonesia, goodness.
Wow.
Edmonton, Alberta.
Have you been to Canada?
Yes.
I went and shot.
Y'all remember there was a fuel additive that I was,
there was a fuel additive that I had on the quarter panel of my rookie or, yeah,
2,000 cup car.
I've got a bottle of it still.
But it was this fuel additive.
And I went to Ontario to shoot the commercial for that.
I was in this industrial park.
It was an old closed down industrial facility, and I'd take this Camaro.
The outlaw?
Yes, the outlaw.
I take this Chevy Camero and do some donuts in this little, and I did it.
I did all that work driving the car.
I was kind of dirt.
You were the professional driver on a closed course?
Yes.
So I drive it through these little tight corridors, and they were like, drive up here and spin do donuts.
And it was like a room this size.
And I'm like, I'm going to hit every fucking thing in here.
I'm going to hit everything in here.
I'm going to hit everything
I'm not a
I can do donuts but I'm going all over
I can't like do a donut and be like
you know precise
with my donuts
but I didn't do any damage
we had a lot of fun
that is impressive
it was cool
they went up there to shoot it
because it was cheaper
and I guess they could circumvent
some sort of
laws and so forth
to shoot it outside the United States
and I've been to Vancouver
and
you know one place I want to
to go now that we're talking about this?
There is a road
that you can take on the western side
of Canada that goes
all the way up to Alaska.
And driving up that road, you pass by
all of these old,
old western sort of vintage, like
17,600 saloons and towns,
and they're just like four blocks, you know,
eight, six blocks wide and tiny little towns
on the side of these rivers.
The Alcon Highway?
Yes.
I want to drive that.
I've tried to tell Amy.
I'm like, Amy, I want to do that.
And she's like, yeah, take a buddy.
Oh, she won't go with you.
I'm like, no, it'd be fun.
Like, just drive up there and stop a couple of little towns, you know.
And they've got these old saloons and stuff that have just not, it's like a time capsule inside.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've got this story.
It's a funny-ass story I'll tell it.
So I was watching a show where there's a.
there's a thing that people do, there's a river maybe up toward Alaska or in and around that
road we're talking about coming down through Canada. People, this happens annually. People will
will, they'll be some dudes and they'll get their buddies and they'll go up north or wherever
and they'll buy a bunch of timber and lumber,
and they'll build a giant float raft, like, you know,
20 by 20, and they'll actually pitch tents on it,
and they're going to float this river for as far as they can.
And they just sit on this float,
and they just kind of worked their way down this river for days and days.
And I was watching this documentary of these guys that were doing it,
and they're,
They cook and, you know, they're hanging out, drinking, laughing, having fun,
and they'll stop and get off whatever for a little bit,
or get back on there a little raft.
And it's just a raft with a standard, old-school, two-man tent.
They'll have a couple tents on there.
And it looks amazing because it's just being outdoors and cooking in the wild.
The Copper River.
Yes.
And so, and they're floating down this river,
and there'll be rafts that are abandoned on the side of the people are just like,
Yep, had enough.
We're just getting off.
Leave your raft right there.
And I was like, damn, that sounds awesome.
So, and this was around 2002, 2001, me and my buddies, we pinpointed a river in western North Carolina.
We were going to build a raft.
Oh, just like these guys on the show.
Yeah.
So we drove around Moresville, and we snuck into a couple marinas.
and we stole some pier floats that go under piers that hold piers up out of the water.
There'd be some big, big, big, giant plastic square things that go under piers laying over on the side.
And we'd be like, oh man, pull over, just throwing the back of the truck.
We hauled that, right?
So we stole a few things.
And then we went and bought a bunch of lumber at Lowe's.
And then we built this raft on the back of a flatbed trailer that was,
hooked up to my truck.
We filled the back of this truck with all the gear.
Sleep bags, tents, grilling equipment, food.
Just like the show.
Coolers full of beer.
We had everything in the back of the truck ready to go.
The damn float is on the back of this trailer.
Built ready.
Yeah.
And there's four of us.
And it's me, David Neal, David Hovis, and Josh Schneider, I think.
And we called
we called
Jimmy Eledge
and I was like
Jimmy Eledge is Carson's dad
Carson, my niece
and we called Jimmy Elish
I'm like hey Jimmy man
need you to do me a favor need you to drive me to
western North Carolina about three hours from here
you're going to drop us off we're going to throw this raft in the creek
and we'll call you a couple days from now
come pick us up.
A couple days of now
yeah
and he's like all right
he'll do it. It's like midnight.
Did he question this at all? He's like all right
Yeah, just tell me what I'm about to get there.
Sorry.
It's about midnight when I called him.
I was like, you're going to drive us.
We're going to unload this thing.
You can take off the home and we'll call you when we need you.
He gets to the house and he's like, hey, man, have you tested this thing out?
I'm like, no, we ain't.
I mean, I just assumed it would float.
He's like, you might want to test this thing out.
And so we take this big float, right?
All five of us pick this thing up.
And it was heavy as hell is everything we could do to put it in the pool.
We put it in my swimming pool.
and it and then I got on it and it was like two inches above the water and so like with all of our stuff and all of our all four of us it was not gonna float and so we aborted I'm glad we didn't drive all the way there to learn that yeah me too that is a real story we just had two our we got two by 12s and we just had wet the wood we
put on this thing was far, far too heavy.
That was not
science out properly.
Shocker. Yeah. This was back in the
bud days, if that explains anything.
Yeah, I think that does help explain
a lot. That's hilarious.
Wow. What a story.
Fan day info, please. Jim Wood.
Got any fan day info?
I think there's somebody look at it up for you. We'll get it
for you here, Jim, before we get offline.
There is a fan day here happening
at Juniper Motors Sports.
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. Speaking of outdoors, this is a question from a few weeks ago, but Jeremy wants to know how often do you go camping? Or do you go camping at all?
Do we count in a fifth wheel from camping world? Sure. Really? Well, I camp this weekend at Cordill Speedway.
Oh, okay. Then maybe I don't know if that counts.
Oh, okay. Like in the woods, camping. So I'm into that. Building a fire. I'm into that. I'm into it. Going getting some cedar, canaling and, yeah, really. I'm into that. I'm into that. I'm into that.
that. I like to, so on the lake here, Lake Norman is a man main lake right here in Mooresville and around
this area. There's some islands out there that's owned by Duke Power, and you can go out on those
islands, and there's places where people camp on them. Oh. And so they're cleared out in the
centers of these islands. These islands only be like an acre at the most, a couple acres,
but you can park your pontoon,
unload all your stuff,
and hang out on the shoreline,
and then build your tent, you know,
20, 30 foot into the woods.
There'll be some clearings
and people have been out there, right?
And so we used to do that.
Me and Hank Parker Jr. or all my buddies,
when we had it off weekend in the Bush series in 9899,
we'd fill up two boats,
slam full of people and stuff and beer
and go out and park on that island.
The deal was we got there on Friday and your ass wasn't leaving until Sunday.
You bring a bar of soap, washing the lake, and all that.
Oh, that's the life.
Yeah, it was so fun.
And, I mean, you know, you just drink beer all night and then lay around all day, nursing to hang over and then go back at it.
But, man, it was awesome.
And I would, I mean, I like that.
I like that kind of stuff.
Is that islands still?
Can you still do that there?
There's a bunch of them.
There's a bunches of islands on the lake that have that.
and so it's pretty cool.
I would do that again.
And I kind of like that minimalist,
but I really like my fifth wheel.
We got rid of the bus,
and I got a fifth wheel from Campa World.
This one's from Twitter this week.
Travis Hill wants to know, like in 2012,
Tony Stewart was like making fun of a reporter,
and you're sitting right next to him
just trying to hold back laughter.
David Newton.
Yeah.
Do you remember how difficult it was?
It might have been David Newton.
I think it was.
It was an ESPN reporter, I want to say.
Tony Stewart was.
Do you remember how difficult it was to contain yourself?
Not difficult.
Every time you're around Tony,
he was giving somebody a hard time.
And sometimes he was doing it in a playful way
because he liked the person,
but sometimes he was doing it because he was just sick of their shit.
And he had a couple, you know,
he had a long, decade-long,
era there where he was mad at everybody at one point,
then he was just mad at Joey,
and then he was just mad at one person or this person,
then he was mad at a couple media people for a while.
But that's the one thing.
That's what I like about Tony is,
you always kind of knew where you stood,
and if he popped off,
he was also the kind of guy that would come over later and go,
hey, I'm sorry about that.
You're awesome, you know.
So he's got, the one thing about Tony Stewart that a lot of people don't know is he's a teddy bear.
He's very sensitive.
And in behind closed doors, he, you know, he has regrets and sometimes his actions, right, that he's had in the past.
He's had some, I've learned that he's had some pretty tough times dealing with some of those regrets over some of his actions, right?
So he's a good dude.
Oh, coincidentally, just one this weekend?
Yes.
Yeah, pretty big deal.
We were talking about that on DBC yesterday.
He's won basically every former motorsports outside of F1.
I hate,
because he hasn't started an F1 race.
I think the world of that guy,
and I'm so happy for him being a dad
and how that's changed or how he's enjoying that.
Yeah.
And happy for Leah.
I wish he was driving in circles.
You know, I love that he's found,
you know, I love that he's into this drag racing,
and I love that he's, he's in it.
Yeah.
He's beyond no return.
But I miss him at the NASCAR tracks as a competitor.
Would he do a card store race?
I don't know.
Probably not.
Probably not.
Well, maybe this is our formal invitation.
Come to a car store race.
I want to see him do one or two Xfinity races a year.
It was always cool when he was in the race in the field.
I'd love to see him race in Xfinity race.
Go back to Daytona or something.
Absolutely.
have the fan day date. It is May 22nd. I believe that's a Thursday. There you go.
Here, junior motor sports. So come check it out. Get here early. Last year was crazy. Parking.
That was, uh... Oh, we're, uh, speaking of fan day. I think me and Amy are doing a live,
bless your heart on fan day. She might not even know that. We're talking. We're discussing it.
We're discussing it. Yeah, that'll be fun. That will be awesome. Um, let's see. This next one,
also from Twitter this week.
Let me see if I...
Jay Grip 3-899
wants to know
Kyle Larson brought his wing panel in for you last week on the show.
What was the story behind it?
Because it sounded like he was meaning to get that to you?
He had...
I guess so...
We...
I don't know when that conversation started,
but I was telling him
that I had an old...
Steve Kinzer sideboard off of one of his wings.
And I, he's like, I can give you one off of one of our cars.
I was like, hell yeah, I want one.
So it's been setting over his shop for almost a year.
And I just haven't gotten over there to get it.
And so I was kind of surprised that he remembered because me and him kept forgetting to, like, connect on that.
But he's had that for a while to hand over.
And apparently it's got some real history because he blew the hole in the side of it.
Yeah.
They taped the clipboard to cover the hole.
Like it was a rush job.
All I got to clipboard, duct tape the clipboard.
And he still, I guess that's the owner's clipboard of the guy that owned the race car.
And he still uses that very clipboard today.
That is badass.
Very cool.
That is really cool.
And you can see where the clipboard, it's the shape of a clipboard, how the tape goo is still there.
Just neat.
And Kyle Larson, you know, you can collect cup sheet metal.
It's relatively plentiful these days because it's become a market where teams will, when they mileage out,
we got piles of this stuff around here from our cars for sale for people to buy little bits and noses and stuff.
And I even sell some of the late model car that I knocked a nose off of it this weekend.
All that stuff will be in here for sale.
but to get something unique like his dirt car signboard that's not that's not something that's
you're going to commonly see out there so I'm kind of pumped about that yeah yeah 100% this
kind of like reminds me of like the helmet swaps I don't see a whole lot of those anymore
dude I was at cordial and this little kid was like I want your helmet after the race I was like man
it's a $5,000 helmet I mean I don't even I don't love that it costs that much but I don't have
and do you get a whole lot of helmets?
No, that was the other thing too.
I would get guys calling me up, like guys in other forms of motorsport wanting to do a helmet swap.
And I'm like, I can't.
I'm like, that helmet is the one I use every week.
Like Tony Stewart and those guys, like Tony Stewart and his final season used a different helmet every week.
I would have loved to have done that.
But they don't fit.
I'm very particular about the forehead and everything.
What do you mean they don't fit?
Like you'll put one on and halfway through the race, you got a headache because it's pressure points are
different.
Back then, they didn't mold them to your head.
Now they scan your head and they put an insert in there that fits you perfectly.
But back then, I'd get a helmet that I liked.
I was using the Sipson stuff back there, or impact helmets.
And, man, I'd get a helmet that I liked and I use the same one every single practice,
every race.
Yeah.
So, like, I mean, at the end of the year, I'd have one helmet to give to a golf tournament
or a charity or something.
Yeah.
And so when I'd give it away, I'd be like,
Now I got to get a new one.
Find one that I love that I'll just keep using.
Because I didn't like, I didn't like to change shoes.
I use the same shoes, same gloves.
I use the same everything until it would wear out.
Dale, what happened with your ketchup packet?
Oh, we were at Cordill this weekend.
And, uh, God, dang, man.
Oh.
We were at Cordill this weekend.
We had a great time with the cars tour.
Frustrating into the race, but, you know, we,
We talked about that earlier in the show.
There was, my car is parked in the garage behind our hauler,
and there was nothing to the left side of it,
and they had this railing.
It was temporary railing.
You could move around,
and the folks that wanted to be waiting for an autograph or a diecast
would walk up and rest on that railing, probably from here, from me to you, right?
And I, you know, would get in my car and practice and pull in and pull out and get my, you know,
and then come over and sign some diacast.
and, you know, try to take care of those 20 or so people kind of meandering around this fence.
Finally, I'm standing over there signing the last couple of autographs, middle of the afternoon,
and there was really only about two or three people still standing there with a couple of diacasts,
and I heard this boom noise behind me.
It was down pit road, but something got hot, and it, and it,
it didn't explode would be the wrong word,
but it popped, burst.
And so I just heard, boom!
Exactly in the same very moment that that noise was made,
I felt something fly onto me, like a wet substance.
And it hit me in the,
I had on my driver's uniform, brand new white,
brand new white Bass Pro Shops Fire Suit.
And I felt it.
land on the fire suit.
Little specks like dime
size dots.
And it was red.
I'm head.
So initially, like my very first, like this is all in fractions of a second.
I thought I'm not turning around to see what that was.
And why there's red on me now.
Red fluid.
Like somebody is injured.
I don't know what happened.
What the explosion was.
Did it hurt somebody?
I was really like
This is in a very
Like a half a second
I had that thought
Because in the next half a second
I smelled ketchup
And I was like
That's ketchup
And it was on my neck
And I was like
Where in the hell did ketchup come from
So I'm looking around to my left
Because that was the direction
In which it came
And I'm like there's nothing there
Stefan's standing there
And he's like
What's going on
And I'm like, what in the world?
Where did this ketchup come from?
And it's little dots on my brand new uniform.
And I looked down and it was a brand new ketchup packet laying on the ground about a foot from me.
And the person that I'd just autographed their diecast walked by and stepped on it.
And it shot it straight up in the air all over me.
And Stefan comes walking up with like a handful of like fast food tap.
The little napkins.
He was doing this.
Fast food napkins.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And he's like, and he's like right in the middle of the pits.
And I was like, Stefan, we're going into the trailer to fix this.
We're not doing this out here.
I was like, no one noticed.
Let's just go into the hall.
And so we just walk into the holler like nothing happened.
And in my little gooseneck trailer, I got a little curtain I can go behind because we can run the air conditioner in there and try to keep the cool air in there.
I go in there.
I got some, I got some of those, we had some of those.
Lysol towels and the little plastic cylinder
You pull one out of time
We got all of the stuff off of me
Cleaned up the driver's uniform perfectly
No problem
But man it was just like
Right at the same time I heard this
Boom
Was that related to
No unrelated
Perfectly timed
And so for this real split second
I was like
Somebody's hurt
There's been something
Something's just happened
Like catastrophic
Yeah
Catastrophic
Yeah
And then I was like
catch up.
And I looked down and I was like,
damn it, who dropped a brand new packet down?
And it just stepped on it, just perfectly shot on my suit and all over my face.
It was embarrassing, but...
Wow.
There you have it.
All right, I hope everybody enjoyed it.
Feels like this was a long one.
It's my favorite part of the show because we get to talk about all this stuff in front of y'all,
and y'all get to comment.
And so, yeah, it's a lot of fun.
But I want to thank Xfinity Mobile.
I'm looking at some of the final comments.
But I appreciate Xfinity Mobile and everything that they're doing for us here at DirtyMo Media
and everything they do for the Dell Jr. download.
And everything they're doing for me down that long road at the end of the power line
where it doesn't look like service should work.
but it always does.
They come in clutch for us NASCAR fans.
We can take this Xfinity Mobile on the go
and always have great service
and be able to catch the tailings of these races.
I was in Cordial,
couldn't really sit down in front of a TV
and watch the Xfinity race
and watch Kyle Larson beat up on the Junior Motorsports guys.
But I was able to follow along on my phone
because of Xfinity Mobile.
So appreciate it, and yeah, we'll see y'all next week.
Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen.
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and
we're going to talk about
the bets that
Tampa Timms proposed
for this past weekend
at Bristol and if everybody should be happy
or mad. And then going
into the off weekend, we have
Rockingham with the Xfinity series. What are we going to do
with ourselves? What will we do?
Hockey playoff starts this Saturday. Hockey playoff.
Boy, I don't know.
I ain't really ever bet much on hockey.
Careful betting.
When I did, it did not go well.
Yeah.
Shots on goal is a tricky one because it's like one person deciding if it's a...
Then I'm out.
Yeah.
I'm out.
Shots on goal, folks.
Don't do it.
Don't do it.
That's some great advice.
Save.
Saves.
Saves.
Saves.
Okay.
That's the goal.
Well, I want to shout out Jason Kubler.
Came in clutch last night.
picked him for money line
live bet
what sport is that
tennis tennis okay he won in two sets
so he put us into the plus
oh I've been on a bad swing
he put us into the plus money
dude I have been going up
up
since the beginning of March Madness
he's on a run yeah
I'll lose
I'll lose a little but
the next bet comes through and so we're just
kind of
Yeah.
It's like a little ladder,
a little step.
Yeah.
Up and up to the top.
But we're going up.
Yeah, we're going up.
I'm the other way.
I haven't been doing well recently.
I had three losses in a row before Jason Kubler came through.
I was doing some live betting for the Rockies last night.
And damn it, they just kept scoring.
The Rockies?
Suburned Rockies.
What was it a home game?
They were at the Dodgers.
Okay.
Oh, okay.
And, yeah, they weren't doing me many favors.
But as we'll talk about on the, I'm sure we'll talk about this on Bless Your Heart,
I did win 83 cents when they did not score in the third.
Okay, awesome.
Thank you, Rockies.
Travis is so annoyed.
Eight.
I can't wait to hear this.
All right.
Tim's, what were the best last week?
We did this last week, and I've already forgotten.
Yeah, we took some shots on Chris Busher,
and I took a shot on Michael McDowell,
so that obviously didn't work out because Larson dominated.
I also had a bet Ryan Priest in a group bet,
which I never do against three other drivers,
and he did not have the weekend, I thought.
I think I was on maybe a top 10 for Stenhouse,
which was looking good after quality.
great yeah look great and a j almondinger maybe yeah i can't remember but i think we talked about it yeah
but sthenhouse was our main point last week yeah didn't come through no i mean honestly if we're
not taking shots on these guys like sthenhouse mcdowell busher the books have larsons the hamlins
all the top guys unbettable yeah so all right well we got an off weekend coming up with um with the cup series
but the xfinity series goes to rockingham so um you know i'm sure you'll probably
we have some interesting bets.
It's a brand new track.
Nobody's been there in a long time.
Rockingham, we don't know what to expect.
Repave, relatively narrow groove.
Could open up a little bit.
But, yeah, you got Casey Kane out there.
He may have some odd, interesting odds, no pun intended.
Yeah, they're not out yet, but I would assume he wouldn't be a favorite, but he'll be in the top echelon.
Good car.
I'll probably have something on him just because, you know, that's a fan favorite.
He's a top 10 bet for me.
I mean, I know that I would get in the car and go to Bristol,
and I felt pretty confident if I didn't do anything dumb,
I could run seventh or eight.
Yeah.
Right?
Or just on the fringe of the top 10.
And I think he'll do even,
I think he's in a better spot to do even better than that.
So I would feel real comfortable with a top 10 bet for him.
That's probably not great money there,
but if you parlayed it together with a few other things,
maybe you get lucky.
Who do you think would be like the favorite for this type of,
this brand new track, like you said, not a lot of, you know.
Who's driving the joke?
Gibbs cars. Justin Bonson yours in the 19 and then Brandon Jones and William Swalich, I think.
Yeah, I probably wouldn't put any money on those guys. Now, Swalich or Jones could surprise.
Brandon Jones, I might put a top five on, but the money with him is probably not very good
because he just come off a win at Darlington. Yeah, he might be. So I don't think I would probably
even bet those guys. Yeah. You know, it's, maybe.
is it's i know this is my guys but like connor zillich and carson you know um and even sammy to an
extent i'd give sammy a top 10 and maybe connor zillich a top 10 carsing might be a guy to take a
flyer on for a win yeah i don't hate that carson came to mind for the uh my short list of guys i
think it could do well here even though it's repaved i still think it's a he can do really well
yeah i mean the team's fast um and they're coming off of a great weekend at bristol a lot of
momentum they did have a test there you know so you can look at the speeds at the
see who you thought was quick.
Yeah.
That's got, I should look at that.
Yeah.
All right.
Outside of that, we have, you talked about the NHL playoffs,
anything else lingering around in the sports world that I think we ought to pay attention to this weekend.
We're coming off the Masters.
Coming off the Masters.
I did not have a good Masters.
I had a great master.
Did you?
Yeah.
Go ahead.
NBA playing is about to start.
So, like, I think that's when we can start betting these player props with the stars
because you know they're going to play and they're not going to be,
you know, resting in load management.
That's awesome, awesome information.
Great take.
Because betting the NBA is not a lot of fun during the regular season.
I had, for the, for the, for the, um, masters, I had Morikawa.
Is that how you say that?
Yeah, Morcao.
I had him, Aberg, and Bryson for top 20s at plus,
438.
Nice.
That won.
I also had a 10-pick parlay where I had eight people making the cut, two players not making
the cut at plus 3.41, and that also won.
Yeah.
And I was real happy.
I put four units total down on all that.
Nice.
Good weekend then.
Yeah, solid for me.
I like, hey, I'm going to put a couple, you know, bets in, and I felt like those were
real conservative.
didn't really want to play an all-out, go for an all-out winner or anything like that.
That's not my style.
Tough, that's tough.
Yeah.
But it was fun, man.
And I was glued to the coverage, right?
Yeah.
Otherwise, I would have not paid any attention until that very final few moments when Rory had to try to win in the playoff.
Yeah.
Which was so interesting to watch that happen.
Not only him almost handed away and then win it outright, but his reaction to winning it.
Yeah.
was awesome.
Pretty damn cool.
Yeah.
Even if you, I like Roy.
I'm not a massive golf fan.
I don't know much about,
I just am super casual.
Yeah.
And that was emotional to watch.
I can't imagine anybody watching that
and not feeling something.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Just the amount of time it took him
to win that next major.
Yeah.
The relief.
But that long walk,
we just got to really see him trying to process it.
Yeah.
And the heart,
he just could not realize,
could not believe
that he was living
that moment.
Yeah.
Pretty neat to see.
Well, all right, man.
Appreciate you, Alex.
Of course.
I enjoy this segment, and I'm just going to, I might ask you guys some questions about the
NHL playoffs.
Yep, Stanley Cup playoffs.
So I might ask you some questions about that, see about some bets that I might
be interested in.
I'm definitely tuned up for the NBA play-in games in the very beginning of the playoffs.
There might be some decent money-line stuff on the summer.
of the first rounds of the playoffs for the NBA.
And I'm just going to keep on having fun,
betting my nickels and quarters on no runs
in the innings of these live bets for the Major League Baseball.
That's so much fun.
Me and Amy is sitting on the couch watching this show we're streaming.
We're binge watching this particular show.
It's a, I think it's called On the Spectrumers.
Okay.
Yeah.
And I'm sitting there in that, you know,
baseball games going on and I'm just like, yeah, Rockies.
Rockies didn't score.
No score Rockies.
Yeah.
Them Rockies.
They scored last night.
Too many times.
Yeah.
All right.
We'll see you.
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All right.
It's time for the white flag as we're starting to wrap this show up.
Actions detrimental dropped on Monday.
We talked about how great that show was.
Denny's quest for three wins fell short, but he kicked ass as a podcaster this week.
tells us everything that he thinks can improve on the next-gen cars.
Add those to those great comments from Kyle Arson,
and I think we've got a great direction to search for.
Doorbubber Clear also dropped Monday.
They were joined by the great Steve Park, our good friend,
came in and gave us some great insight,
told some awesome stories,
and just a bunch of modified guys hanging out.
My interview with Edmund McCain will drop tomorrow.
Edwin's going to tell us all about his story,
all the tough trials and tribulations he had as a rock story.
and the fame that he had many, many years ago,
and now trying to sort of have a rebirth of sorts.
He's got some new music out, which is really good,
and he's still touring today.
Just a great guy and a friend in the NASCAR community.
You won't want to miss that.
Also on Wednesday is Herman Strader and Speed Street.
Herman Strader having a good run here.
Kenny called me the other day.
We talked a little bit about how much fun he's having doing this with Kenny Wallace.
And it's always great to hear from Connor at Speedststst,
Street and everything they got going on in the IndyCar world.
Bless Your Heart is back Thursday with Amy.
We're having fun with that.
Thanks for all the great feedback from fans.
I'm hearing about it almost every day.
And don't forget to head over to shop.
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And we got some really fun, fun merch coming out.
I want to end this episode by saying that our hearts and our prayers go out to the families of John Edwards and Al Pierce.
We have suffered some loss in the NASCAR community over the last couple of weeks,
and that was some really tough news to learn between the two of those guys that had put so much into this sport
and been such a good friend to so, so many people in the garage area,
and in the media center.
So, yeah.
So the sport will remember them finally.
And, yeah, we'll see you tomorrow.
