The Dale Jr. Download - Corner-Cutting & Soul-Crushing Losses

Episode Date: September 2, 2025

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That's fine in any car and F1 for them to run that type of a corner. We don't need corners like that. That's it. That's the answer. Get rid of the corner. We don't have this no more. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half.

I don't know if we've ever argued. Did I piss you off over the weekend? I'm still sour that I want the best man at your wedding. Who was your best man, Dale? T.J. DJ. You don't need a cool vest for that race? What are you thinking?

Get them, T.J. Hellway is starting a show. All right then. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download. It's Tuesday. It's dirty air. I'm here with my great friend and co-host T.J. Majors.

Spotter, extraordinaire. Working with Brackzlowski. I appreciate you introducing me like that today. Well, hell, man. I'm going to lean on you a little bit, all right? Because I didn't watch much of the race. I just saw the end. I watched every lap.

Did you? All right. Well, one particular car for every lap. Yeah, scanned around a lot, too. Did you? Yeah, you always do. I saw all of the Xfinity race and all of my cars tore race from the passenger door or passenger window because I was sideways. Why are you letting it push around like that?

I was loose. I would imagine. I was trying to keep them behind me. They had your quarter panel all pushed up in. pretty far. One of them little smart asses walked up to me and asked me if I didn't hear my spotter I said, I'm just trying to keep you behind.

Dang! Yeah. Man, it's kids. You believe it? Anyways. Did you get mad? No. It's what it's all about.

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legal. Yeah, it was according to to the precedence or the rules that they said, yes. Conner's move was legal.

Yeah, it was. I don't, I mean, they, you think, though, that, okay, we're fine, I thought you were

going to say that it was not legal. No, it was legal according to what they, according to the well, I mean, he didn't run the full chicanes still.

You know what I mean? That's the rule right there. Either one of those yellow lines there, yeah, I mean, he ran one of them. The problem with this is, the penalty for cutting the course

is not worse than the racetrack itself. That ain't his problem. No, and just what I'm saying. He, you know, he did what he, I mean, I don't blame him. I mean, that's smart doing. Yeah. I mean, great job doing that. But the shortcut for missing a corner should not be a, should not be faster.

I know. Why do we stop everywhere we go? If you cut it at all, you have to stop. But we go to here and they say, go ahead. I can't. argue that maybe how they did it at Portland wasn't as much of a deterrent. And so, you know, I would just say, I'm glad we're not going back. Oh, for sure.

You know? And it's nothing to do with location or really anything else, but the fact that that turn one, two combination is just not good. And I thought, you know, they move restart zones around there. I thought maybe, you know, the restart zone must be too far up still because they are all over each other into the first corner still. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like that that that type of a turn being the first, that type of a turn, that little kink, chicane, whatever you'll call it. That being the very first turn you're going to enter after a restart for any racetrack is a bad idea.

it's just not a good design sorry and do you think even across like Formula One series is a bad design too or do you think that's their that's what they mainly run

I know yeah it's definitely a bad I think it's definitely bad for Formula One's different though because they know that if they barely touch their like cars ruin so they have basically avoid trying to touch I mean we're four wide

on that final restart yeah that's not four wide the majority of the cars miss the inner cut the inner curb. The majority of the top five

cut turn two. Yep, the sixth car in line here is the first car to make it. Carson Quaple is the first car to make it. He's actually seventh into that corner. Carson is the first car that drove it correctly. And he was sixth or seventh going into the turn.

Yep, six place there. That right there isn't any fun. I don't I don't know that that's just something we really don't need to be doing I guess. Do you think moving

the restart zone a back further would help? The corner is the problem. Just the corner. Just get rid of the corner. Can we go straight? Could we just run straight down into turn the next?

Oh yeah, no. Why? Because that next runoff. Well, I mean... Why couldn't you? Because it's pretty narrow there too. It's a right-hander. It's another right-hander.

It's not quite as sharp. It's not as sharp. But it's a second-gear corner now. It could be second-hander. on the edge of third. I don't know, man. I think that there's a lot of payment right there

where you could probably design something just a little bit different. I think that that hard right-hander to get over to turn two is just way too much going. That's just way too much. So for the NASCAR series, if we ever do go back to Portland,

they need to redesign this part. They just do. I mean, how is that any different than Watkins Glen? Watkins Glen has a 90-degree turn in turn 1, and then you drive straight into another 90-degree turn-and-2. But, I mean, the first corner is pretty much a 90, and they're still diving in there. They're still going to, if this is a 90-degree corner,

them guys up the inside are still going to hit. They're still going to hit, whether it's a 90 or a cutback. I don't got a problem with them hitting. So you're just saying you don't... I don't like the fact that none of them make turn 2, T.J. This chican is bull-h-h-that you shouldn't have this, This aggressive. You don't be dis-aggressive of a chican at the end of the front straightaway,

especially when you're going to have a green-white checker. The same damn thing, the same problem we had at Indianapolis Roadcourse. Oh, it's just the exact same thing as Indy. Yeah. It's just no fun. Like, is this, this ain't, this ain't what we're trying to do here. But doesn't some of that fall on the driver's hands, too, though? No.

You don't think any of the driver. That car's got to give them a little better situation here. I would say if I'm the promoter track owner or the series manager, I would say I didn't put them in a good position to succeed. That's definitely, you're definitely kicking the door wide open and saying, here you go, guys. I run a series, so I feel like I would say if I'm running, if I'm owning a series, say, and they're getting ready to have this restart, this would be what I'd be afraid might happen. not be this you know i don't know how people feel but i would not want this to be the result right oh i agree with that tj me and you are standing there in the booth we own the series we're getting ready to see the final restart is this what you hope happens it's not what i want to see happen no right

so i don't want to see this happen so what can i do i do want to see the i do want to see first and second going there side by side i don't want to see me and you're the faking series owners all right What can we do to try to prevent this before they ever get on the track? I mean, don't create it, first of all. Create what? That corner. Right, change the corner.

Don't give them the opportunity. Just fucking get rid of it. This is F1, this is IndyCar bullshit. That's fine in IndyCar and F1 for them to run that type of a corner. We don't need corners like that. That's it. That's the answer.

Get rid of the corner. We don't have to worry about it. Nobody likes this corner. Nobody's sitting there going, oh, man, don't get rid of that corner. Nobody can be happy about this. Nobody's Are we

Where's the Where's another corner like this on the schedule? Turn 1 at Charlotte Nine degree left Roval right Term one Which is fine It's not a switchback

I'm just saying The switchback bullshit Is what we need to avoid We've had problems with it At the Indy row course I would say that You know Just don't need to do this

Do this kind of stuff Run this type of racetrack Indie Coda Anytime Is a little bit Yeah Cota's a little bit a problem? It's worse because it's not a 90. It's a U-turn. Yeah. I don't love that track anyways.

But, I mean, it was good race there this year. Yeah, it was better. It was better this last year. They cut off. I'm not like, I'm not like, if you had a, if you're like, hey man, you're going to go to 10 races, right? Coda wouldn't make my list. I'd go to some different tracks. But that's just me. I'm personal opinion. I actually liked Cota this year with the short track. I did too. I liked that a lot. And I remember. I think road courses in our series should be short and distance. We had a lot of good things. I think even you said after the show after that, we were all about the shorter course there

because they were just packed up more and racing more. So it was much better. And the chance that the front of the field might catch the back of the field during a stage, right? The stages are so short. That's always good. Yes. That's always good.

All right, so you feel good about Zilich. I mean, you don't love it. You don't love if he had to go through the... He didn't do anything wrong with it. The best driver won, though, so it's not as bad. Like, if someone else would have done that in one, I think we would have had a bad feeling about it. I would feel better about it if he just didn't intentionally cut the course on purpose.

But, I mean, he's got to protect himself here. And if you don't, you're probably getting wrecked. But Dale, you've got to be saying, I'm glad he cut the course on purpose. Like, gamesmanship, you win the race. He's getting wrecked. If he tries to make that corner, he's getting hit by the 8 and gets hit by the 48. Like, he's getting wrecked right here. If I'm anybody in the series that,

thinks they got a chance to win, I'm telling my driver on Wednesday. I want you to take a look at that. I want you to figure out how to get through there. Because if you're leading this race coming down into the breaking zone, if you're in the top three, I just want you to go through there. Don't even try to make the corner. Well, guys from the back, we're doing it regardless. All the time.

Yeah, I guess one car made up 28 spots on restarts all day. It ran the shortcut every time. Do you know who it was? Honeyman. Honeyman. And he said, Ty Gibbs said when they were traveling to Darlington, when he raced there that he did the same thing and went from like 28th to 5th. Sure. So like, I don't know why we're, why are we shocked that we've, this has happened before.

And like, I don't. That's it even, that isn't that, shouldn't that even be a bigger concern is that? Why wouldn't fix it? We're, well, there's, you know, we're, we're, we're going to look at the Conner's move and, and focus on that. But yeah, but you see all them cars behind that are just going to go ahead and go through there? They're not even trying to make the corner. They're just trying to gain all the spots because the guys that are stacked up spun around

and running into each other in turn two. What do you feel should be done about the cars that didn't make turn two? That didn't run the A-frame but also didn't get around the curb in two. I don't think they should get their finishing positions. If you cut the curb, I literally go back and look at like the roval

and guys were getting penalties for being a foot inside the curve. curb. These guys are... I wonder why. I mean, I probably honestly could have called

somebody to ask this question, but why wouldn't you say, all right, you know, 10 second penalty? Something, right? I mean,

this would, there's all, they probably can't just throw a 10 second penalty on you out of nowhere. But there's probably some protocol

or something already in place. Everybody knew beforehand if you didn't do, if you don't run the A-4, Yeah, your lap don't count. It's like a lot of seconds.

It's like 30 seconds or something. The penalty. Or your lap don't count. Why didn't they do that? If you blow the bus stop at Watkins Glen... I mean, it's the most important lap of the race. If you low the bus stop at Watkins Glen, if you don't stop, your lap gets thrown out. Yeah.

But I would argue, too, T.J., there's plenty of guys that run on the inside of the curves there in the final few laps. We've had some incredible races where, like, you know, Brad Keselowski... Through the grass. Yeah, going through the grass. I know it's not the fast way. they didn't gain an advantage, but they certainly didn't run.

They did put four tires off the racetrack and cut the corner, and NASCAR hasn't stepped in to do anything before. Yeah, I guess they view this differently. Like, hey, they were trying. Yeah, you know, a lot of contact. It's hard to say what they might have been able to do

if there weren't contact. But you shouldn't be able to judge off intent. It's did you or did you not do it fault, you know? Well, I think that there is that, I think that NASCAR's made it clear that they do judge off of intent. And they try to, it seems like in a lot of cases, they go with, if you can't tell, like a guy spending out on purpose.

I can watch a race. And I can, if a guy spends out on purpose, I can probably tell nine out of ten times, right? TJ, wouldn't you be able to do that too? I think we know, yes. We know. But NASCAR is not going to call it unless there's an admit. admit it or NASCAR won't call it all the time right and you know this guy spun out on purpose and they don't they don't call it unless you come out and admit it

and so they govern uniquely to what like you know it's easy for us to armchair quarterback this the day later or a couple days later but man in that moment I would have been like you son of my guns I'm you know all of you cut in the corners I mean a lot of them there I think this saw one guy cut so they all start cutting Yeah Like they're not wrecking through there

All of them are not wrecking They're just turning left to cut it And going with it Yeah So It's just frustrating I just hate the corner And get rid of the corner

We don't have the problem But also I wish they would have penalized Several of these guys For missing the corner But then yeah You go back and look at other races in history that we even celebrate

some really, really fantastic finishes at roadcourses, and there's some times when guys have cut some corners in those fantastic finishes that we love. Yeah. But I mean, even you go back to the Watkins going to think of with Brad, there was oil on the track as well. I don't care. I'm just saying, I know what you're saying.

Who do you spot for again, T.J.? Well, those guys were sliding into lines. I don't even know if it was Brad that cut the corner. I'm just saying that this has happened, before and they didn't do anything then and we never we as a fan never went whoa bull's why didn't he get black flagged both of them off the track you know cobbush is the winner um or whatever right so i i just this i don't know i think these these like road course bowling down into turn one bull's finishes i i don't like them i don't

do not like them. It's not. They're not fun. It's not where you grew up. It's not NASCAR. No. No, it's because up the inside there, you got the guy from four rows back and he's not breaking to everyone else.

You know, they're, I don't put it on the drivers at all. I mean, you have to put a little bit on the driver because they're driving in deeper. When they got them locked up into the corner, that's not on the driver? You know your breaking zone. You've had a lot of resarts here today. Put it on the driver. I'm going to say the track needs to get rid of that freaking corner. Otherwise, a pretty fun race.

watch. Pretty entertaining race. My guy, uh, I had a tough deal as an owner. Um, Justin got spun out off the nose of Carson, uh, Quaple. Carson ran turn one like you're supposed to and, and him and Justin ran into each other. And that sucked. They got spun around. I almost feel like Justin was expecting Carson to cut it. I guess. Sammy had, Sammy ran a great race all day. Sammy. He did. Remember when Sammy, uh, did what he did at Martinsville, and we all got in his... I forgot about that.

We gave such a hard time about it. He has done a really good job this year. He's just gone about his business. He just went back to work. We told him too. We're like, man, everybody thinks you're punk. You're giving them a good reason to think that. Don't give him the reason, right?

You go out there and go out there and figure it out. Go out there and work, rebuild, gain back your reputation. He's worked hard to just be solid. And he has. He's starting to... We're starting to... I've seen him... Just get better as a driver.

If you could erase Martinsville, it would do wonders for him. Yeah. I mean, when you say Sammy Smith... Well, it's a good experience, I think. When you say Sammy Smith, the first thing you're going to think about is that. I said it, and you didn't even remember it. I was kidding. No.

Because it was so memorable that you cannot forget that. Well, 24 starts, eight wins for Connor Zillich. Crazy. an incredible year and there's still more season left. Justin Algear sitting there in second 20 points back. Sam, Mary, Jesse Love, Austin Hill, Carson Cople, Brandon Jones. You got half of the top eight. Yeah.

That's pretty good. We've had a pretty solid year here at January Motors Sports. You know, we just got to get Carson Cople in a victory circle. It's been a tough, tough year for some of our teams at different points. I don't, you know, we'll kind of see. kind of see where we are. This is kind of where you get a chance. If you've been kind of clunking along and struggling a little bit,

maybe not really running like you want, the little quick little brief break between the clean break, I guess, between regular season to playoffs, is the opportunity to kind of hit the reset button. And we're going to more traditional style racetracks outside of the rovo, I guess. But the roval has been pretty good for us too. But St. Louis this weekend, man, I had a good run up there once. Be Randy Leroy, I think in 99.

Back when it was super hot there. You race in the daytime there, didn't you? No, that one's a night race. I ran in 97 and I got in a wreck. And I joked that I got in the wreck on purpose because it was so damn hot I was ready to get out. I really didn't run into that wreck on purpose. but I relief drove for Glenn Allen Jr. that day. That was fun.

So the 99? Yeah. Yeah. He got out and threw up right there on pit road. I was like, oh my God. I'm having second thoughts now about getting in here if I'm going to have that reaction. I don't want to get sick too. The NASCAR playoffs are here and so is your chance to bring the intensity home.

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Before we go on to the cup race, Joe Lugano had this comment on the playoff format. Jeff Gluck with the athletic and here at Dirtymo Media, him and George Miyaki were at Fand day over the course of the week where they talked to all of the playoff drivers about all the things going on in the NASCAR universe. before they went to Darlington. Joe Lugano says, as a fan, I want to see drivers scared, and our playoff system does that. I've always been the person to say, if you're complaining about it, then just go do better. If you scored a bunch of points during the regular season

and you didn't make it to the championship yet for, then shame on you. You had a head start, and you still couldn't do it. But don't say it's not legit. You could have gone out there in one to get it, and you didn't. Just because it didn't work out for you, it doesn't mean change the rules. The only thing, like, I think, first thing I want to say is this.

You can believe that Joey Lugano is a legitimate champion and still believe that the playoffs should be different. So I think that Joey is a legitimate champion. I think that Joey's trophies that he has in his possession are as cool. as real and as real and as historic as any other champion

in our series ever I agree right all through the history of NASCAR every championship has been won under a different set of circumstances whether it be how the playoff points are tallied whether it be the competition level

you could argue you know in the 70s there were eight capable cars of winning races, maybe even less capable drivers of winning a championship. Oh, way less. Right? Now we have, oh, it's tough. You know, it's way more competitive. My point being that not just the playoffs

and how you score points has changed, the sports evolved. Every championship is unique. So are joys. But I don't think that the single race format is the best way to decide. I don't either. The champion. It doesn't mean that Joey doesn't deserve to be celebrated. And it doesn't mean that

if they were to change it, it doesn't really dilute or take away from what he accomplish. What's done is done. Yeah. And he says you had a head start. Well, the points reset. That's the other thing. That he's missing. I think when he's, he's he at the if you if we could look at it at the end of the regular season he was over 200 points behind the leader that advantage was erased in his favor he went from how many races out of the fucking points lead to like one and then they get erased after each round i see the same way yeah that's the way i see it you're definitely this this system joey

definitely benefits Joey. He went from eight races behind the leader in points to one race. I mean, that's nice. When you know you end the season with some strong races for your company or your team, like you're going to. And he is arguably the best at this type of system. He knows how to grind out every single point and take those, like he, like, well, the other thing too is, is the 48 gets thrown out.

He wouldn't even been in the next round if the 48 wasn't a limit. I mean, there was just something weird. things that happen. And, you know, I just feel like that change is coming. And I think that NASCAR has warmed up to the idea that they're hearing enough to convince them that they probably do need to make an adjustment. You know, what that is, it's, I would say, if I had to guess, we're looking at probably a three or four race round to decide the title.

which I like. I do too. I do too. I like it too. But I think that Joey can go to bed feeling comfortable and confident. I know people use him as an example

as to why we need change. It's a good example to use. It is. It is. But he did win it. He does have the choice. trophy just like Benny Parsons, won in 1973, only finishing on the lead lap once all year long. Just like, you know, Kenseth, in 03, I believe, right? He wins the race and just consistently was

awesome all year. So consistent then. And won it early over guys like Jimmy Johnson, Jeff Gordon. Really, really good competitive teams. And he would qualify like 30th every week. Yeah. Hey. No matter how it's one, it's one. Right. But I think we can all agree that there's not a perfect system. There never will be a perfect playoff format. Never. And, but we all do think that there needs to be a little bit bigger of a sample size of final races for that final round. And I think that's probably what we're going to get. Do you feel like people complain about this system more than the original add the points up all year? Everybody complained about that. Well, I mean, it was... The only person that complained about that was... There wasn't as much chatter.

You didn't have social media like you do now. We did. Yes, true, too. There wasn't social media to... When they locked the championship, leaving before the last race... That was... So, no one complained about that.

I was around. I mean, yeah, I know. I mean, I went through it, too. When somebody won the championship early, it was like... Like, damn, you're gonna fucking badass. You were celebrated more. Or, when...

When you were in such a good position, all you had to do was start the last race. I know. Damn. I never been in that position, but that must have been pretty cool. Yeah. I was in it in the Xfinity series,

and it was. Did they do the garage stall in the Xfinity series, too? Remember when we were practiced? The champion always got that first stall. They did that too. I don't know. I don't remember. I mean, yeah, I'm sure.

I always thought that was kind of cool, too. Well, nobody complained about the original 36-point, 36-raise-point system. I think Brian France, Didn't like what happened when Matt locked it up. The networks probably were thinking, you know. Yeah, there's no game seven. Yeah, can we do something different?

But as far as like a fan base, nobody was complaining. Nope. Maybe if you had a Jeff Gluck poll, maybe 5, 10% thought that there should be something different. I sure wish we should go back and pull it. But it was not, there was not a lot of, and it's a damn shame because that probably would have saved us. If there would have been a public poll, I bet it we'd still have the 36 raised points because they would have been enough evidence, right, that there was, you know, good support for it. Do you ever see the page that actually calculates the points, like how they used to?

Like, I always look at that. I do too. I think it's kind of cool. Chase Briscoe's within, is 18 points. 18. Bell, 30 something? 26, TJ. Oh, I'm fling glasses. Sorry, the light is glaring.

The light is glaring. You need some glasses. So Kyle Larson's 67 back, William Byron is 72 back. There's top six or seven that are still eligible point-wise here. I have to be honest, I find that really entertaining. I don't know if that says anything. Yeah, I mean, I don't mind it. Is it only entertaining because it's nostalgic?

Yes. Because it doesn't exist? Correct. Like if it was the way it was, I wouldn't feel this way. Yeah, because you're yearning for it. So it's like you, yeah. But if that was, if somebody came in tomorrow and said, we're adopting this right now, going forward, this is what we're doing. Would we all look at, will we all kind of like it, not like it, not care?

You would love it. It would love it. It might be a little closer. It might be a little closer to because we race differently for, you know, stages and use flip stages more and stuff now for playoff points. So it might even be a little closer. Fans like me would not like it. You wouldn't like it. No.

Because I've didn't grow up with the. sport. I didn't grow up with this. You don't like it that Briscoe won the race and now he's within 19 points? Like that's four spots on the racetrack. I want to tweak the playoffs but I like the idea of playoffs. I mean if Chase

Elliot and him were going into the final race of the year that's four positions. 19 points. I don't disagree with your feelings about it's just I didn't grow up with this so I don't have this nostalgia. I don't miss it. No, I get it. So either way,

you're like, whatever, one of the other doesn't matter to me. I want the playoffs tweaked, but yeah. But if they went to this, I wouldn't be against it. Yeah. In my mind, if you have a 36 race final round, you're literally starting to playoff at Daytona. That's the way I think about it. So how I look at, though, is your fans are going to watch. Like, no matter if Chase is a chance to win or not, the Chase fans are going to be there,

I don't agree with that. So you think, so if Chase isn't going to race for the championship, their fans aren't going to watch? No, no, no. I don't think we quantify fans off of, like, they're not compartmentalized into drivers. Like, you have people that love baseball. You have people that love racing, they love sports,

they watch sports. They like a guy, they got a guy out there playing. But they still watch no matter what. But they're watching because they love the sport. Okay, so that's what I was basically saying, is they're going to be watching, but how do you pull in the casual fan that is going to be flipped around looking for something? In a 36 race format, I don't think that's why the playoff and the cutoffs.

I don't think the casual fan knows when they're tuning in. Yeah, I don't think that matter. That might be. I don't think your casual fan goes, I'm casual. You know, I'm going to skip the regular season. I'm tuning in during the playoffs. They're not casual at that point anymore, are they? Yeah, now that you say that I agree with you that if a very,

a fan turns on. That's maybe the problem is we're allowing them to be calculative. Like, you know what? I'll skip this week. It's only the round one of the playoffs. I'll wait till they get to the final round. Now that you say that I take back because I don't think a casual is going to be flipped around and go, oh, Bristol, it's a cutoff race. So now like I'm, I take back what I said because. And don't you think that it, you know, it allows you to like say, yeah, I might, I might, I might be less likely to tune in in the first round of the playoffs because it's the first round. And I don't know. Nothing's really going to be decided tonight.

I don't think it matters. I think if you're a race fan, you're tuning in no matter of it. Oh, the hardcore is for sure. Yeah. But no, I, now you say, like, I think if a casual fan is going to turn on, they're going to turn on anyways. It's not like they're going to know what was at stake. I didn't really want to get into this conversation today, but I think what I'm missing and what I believe, has more value than people realize is.

So we'd be racing along, right? We'd go to Charlotte in October. There's probably 10 races left, eight, 10 races left in the season, right? Dad's right in the thick of the battle, right? Say he's 40 points behind Rusty Wallace or Mark Martin or somebody, right? And we go to Charlotte,

and 13 laps into the race, he broke a cam. and run last. That was a gut punch equal to missing the final four. You're sitting there in the regular season that we know today, but in a 36-race playoff, you've broke a cam, finished last at Charlotte, and lost 150 points. That's a big freaking blow.

That's a lot. Or say he's 40 points, behind Mark Martin and Martin Mark Martin blows the damn motor and dad runs and goes wins the race. New point leader. That kind of thing being that

impactful in the middle of the season or even at the front of the season right? That is missing now. Right? Your driver goes to you know your driver goes to Daytona

in the final race of the regular season and flips out and crashes, it's, eh, just is what it is. He's into playoffs. We'll start the playoffs next week. Reset. Reset. No big deal. Run 36th.

It's no big deal. Let me ask you this. So Ohio State, right, is a, Ohio State, they lose the sixth game of the season. In a season, you know they can't lose games, right? What if they f***ed up and lost that sixth game in the season? Think about the emotional roller coaster. that you go on at that point of the year. It used to be that way, yeah.

That one loss is like soul crushing. Oh, yeah. So that's what is gone. And those things had you plug in at race 18, 16, 20. Because that soul crushing moment was always around the corner. Or the opposite of soul crushing, right? That moment of, holy shit, man, we've just busted. We've just busted out and got a hundred point lead today because this guy had bad luck.

That moment was always possible in the regular season. So you were there to see it because you knew it could, you knew you needed to watch. Yeah, that's a good comparison because as they expand the playoffs, losses don't. Losses have, they don't hurt as much, right? Yeah. Would you say? And so. Once you get a win, you relax a little bit.

You don't have that. I know that too. I'm just saying like, I'm not talking about the drivers, industry, mechanics, not their feeling. I'm talking about the fan that's wanting to tune in

and watch this fucking race. I miss wondering how that race 10 blown motor or you know, whatever that moment, that thing that was going to really twist up

the point system, and create this hill that had to be climbed to get back into it. And fans are still going to get excitement from the races because the drivers are still, like, even if you're out of it, you're still racing for the win. Chase Elliott, you know, at race 10, you know, has a problem, gets crashed earlier or something,

and loses his points lead. And now he's 100 points out of the points lead. Well, I'm going to tune in the next week to see if he can claw back and get some of those back. He's got to get those 100 points back over the next several weeks, we've got to get back in this points battle. You know, that kind of stuff there is gone.

You're pulling me closer to the 36 race. Well, those are the things that I think the, those are the things that I think that we're going to need, we're going to need some help with to determine. We need some smart people that could predict how the emotional roller coaster really affects fan engagement, long-term growth and people tuning in, right?

Trying to have eliminations in game seven moments are beneficial, but at a detriment to other things that are now gone that we don't enjoy anymore, don't have anymore. And so the other things that would keep us hanging around, right? Luring us in every single week, wondering what we might experience. Anyways, we got deep into that. Let's talk about the cup race. I said it, y'all.

Briscoe. They are here. It's their time, man. We just had him on the show last week. Do you want your flop, like, do you want us to give a round of applause? I think y'all also agreed. I did it. I think I might have said Brisco because of that car's fast there. You, T.J. Tim's had Briscoe. Russ and I did not have Brisco. Yeah. I feel like that this is a, you know, we're sitting here talking to Briscoe. last week. And I'm like, man, you hit, you, you kind of got, things started clicking at Charlotte, qualifying good, racing good, win at Pocono, starting to run up front, starting to be competitive. And Briscoe's a little different in the playoffs. And he's taught, he said, man, I love pressure. So we talked about pressure. We talked about why he loves pressure. And he just won his second

Southern 500 in a row. One of the hardest races to win in the year. Two different manufacturers. Yeah. Dude, he. He. is dangerous. I'd be a little concerned. If I was the competition, I'd be looking at him going, he's got to be one of the guys I need to worry about. Yeah, and he's figured out this Toyota car, like I think early in the year.

It took him. James Small, I think, is the right cruechy for him, a fiery guy. Yeah, yeah. I don't know if he can win it all. I'm not ready to say he's got a chance to go win the championship, but he's going to ruin, and I think I said this, he's going to ruin someone else's, he's going to ruin another sure contender

he already has right now who I'm just saying chase is like the way he's performing right now and this is but I mean if there's a if there's a final four that you feel like are four locks he's gonna knock out a heavy weight he's gonna boot somebody out like a Larson's gonna miss her Danny or someone

that we wouldn't expect it yeah yeah I see that too he's competed for a championship in every series and trucks he was he wins homestead got knocked out because of a motor issue at Talladega. Bless you. And, Insfinity, would he win eight races that year?

So. He won, he was the first driver to lead 300 plus laps in the Southern 500s. It's Bobby Allison in 1971. It's a long time. Yeah. Hendrick Motorsports struggled.

Chase Elliott 17th, Larson, 19th, Bauer and 21st. Bowman 31st. I don't expect to see that to happen next week. You know why? Why? Rick Hendrick has an unique ability.

to call everybody in on the carpet and ask for things to get better and they always get better. What was it like after a bad weekend for Hendrick as a team? Imagine, you know, any kind of organization that just expects to win, expects to be badass, expects to succeed. Imagine going into that Monday morning meeting, right, and the whole place getting together and you're just all like, what the F, right? What are we doing? On top of that, you put the big boss man in the room.

and ain't nobody talking. It's quiet. And he's probably going to say the first words in the meeting, and he's probably going to say the last words in the meeting. And in some point, he's going to tell everybody to figure it out. And he's going to say, there'll be department heads in there. He'll challenge the engine shop. He'll challenge everybody to make a game.

and he'll have his information, he'll have his facts, he'll be able to back it up. And he just has a way of making everybody go grab a little bit more gear, go dig a little bit harder. When you think that there's nothing else to find, there's not another 2 or 5% to learn, they go and get it. Nobody stays on top forever.

And even the best teams will have really, really rough days. but I've been in that room after a race like that and Rick will say what he has to say and it'll be it'll be it'll influence you to want to go out there and make sure that you're not the weak link you know and you're not the reason why it doesn't succeed

the next race. Does he get louder as he just very stern delivery? No, not loud at all. He's super calm but it's like it's not he doesn't get loud. He doesn't raise his voice at all but it is a very serious serious I'm disappointed and I'm not, you know, I'm not here to be a loser or failure.

That's not what we're about. And it's pretty impactful. It's crazy that he can do it without the way that he does it without the yelling and without the, like, he can get more out of people in a unique way. Yeah. Josh Barry is in a tough spot wrecked on the first lap of the race. This car bottomed out really bad. Real bad, yeah.

I saw it. That's weird. There was a lot of bottoming out in the beginning of practice. But that car was really fucking hit the ground. It hit really hard. Well, that cost him a great finish. But dude, I mean, when I look at this, nobody's in big trouble. You know, Barry Bowman at minus 19, you can't have another bad race.

Then it's over. but I think you know if you could if you're Bowman or Barry and you come out of St. Louis at minus 10 or better how are you feeling?

I mean you're I don't know if that's enough still I mean you're feeling okay you still got a you still feel like you're in the game all you're trying to do is give yourself a shot yes I don't see how Bowman or Barry

looking at the you know SVG looking at the rest of these guys man, I mean. But you got to, you got to think about like this. To me,

you're not making, you're not talking about making gains on the field. You're talking about making gains on the top 12. But you're talking about, like,

Joey's probably gonna, Joey's gonna probably bump SVG because Joey, I mean, yeah. And then, Joey's taking a spot.

SVG is bumpable, but then after that, who's the driving? That's what I mean. Yeah. Like, you're not, that's a pretty tough challenge.

Yeah. These are, these guys are going to have to have problems. Um, but you have, of basically Chastain at plus 21 is pretty comfortable. Mm-hmm. Right?

Pretty cool. He had a quietly good night at Darlington. So, I mean, from 8th on forward, I think, barring any massive issue, they're cruising through this round. I go to 9th because Cindrick won at Gateway last year. Cendrick, I think Bell's good enough at plus 11 to not have to be concerned. Chase Elliott's consistent enough at plus 9. So, I mean, Cendrick and SVG.

who we all were talking about might miss the next round. Those are the only two guys that I see any of these four down here, Ligano, Dillon, Bowman, Barry. I only see two guys, two spots available. Yeah, I only see one, really. Really? Yeah, I don't see them making up on the other, unless someone has a...

Senator could have a rough day. He shows up sometimes in a run 12th. He'll show up some other times around 28th. Those Penske cars were real strong last year. I hear you. And it's just... Look, I want to believe you. I just haven't seen enough over the course of the last several years

to really know Cindrick's going to be a lock. I don't think he's a lot. I think he's got a good enough buffer here to me. Yeah, I mean, 21 or 12 points. Yeah. What if Lugano outpointed Cindrick and then someone else outpointed SVG? I mean, that could happen too, but from the same stable, though, I don't see the gaps and points being that big.

it's only 15 I mean that's Can Ligano outpoint Cendrick 15 points in the next two weeks? Forget out pointing Lugano could go out there and can win Okay but Cendric outpointed Lugano all night at Darlington Lugano in the playoffs you can never

That's what I'm saying this system Joey is a thriver in this system Well we'll see I mean I look at SVG give up too many points right there Do you agree? Yes I mean we said he needed to come out of there With what like 15 or something

Like a yeah That was a pretty rough. No, that was a rough. Did we do a final four? No, we just did we're doing round by round. Yeah, I know. You feeling like you want to name a few? We could go for it.

What's worse that happens? We miss. Who's your four? You've been thinking about it? No. Oh, he's only thinks about one. Danny. I think Danny makes it.

I do too. He just, he's been he's just consistent enough does briscoe upset i think briscoe might no what are the final what's the second what's the round martinsville what is it taledaga vaga marnsville

Vegas talladega martinsville yeah i mean Vegas is one of joey's best tracks but last year he had to get pushed Joey ain't gonna make it that i'm not saying no i Oh, way to go. Any one of these mugs could make it. You just ruined it.

No. I'm going to go briscoe. Gosh, I think briscoe could do it. Briscoe. I've got three. I just need a fourth. Byron Blaney. Denny Briscoe Byron Blaney.

I like those picks. And I feel like as much as I want to think that Blaney wins the championship between those four at Phoenix, I just feel like Byron does. I don't know why. I don't have any reason to think that. I honestly feel like Blaney wins it, but I keep picking Blaney every year. All right. Before we move on, the Earnhardt family has relied on BassPro for our outdoor adventures,

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Yeah This first question is actually From a lot of people They want to know How did the Cars Tour race go In Florence on Friday? It went pretty rough for me The series had a great night

We had a great car count We had a pretty exciting race I think for the most part In the Keelan Harvick won the pro race Which was cool And they had bandos and legends there Kyle Bush was there with Brexton racing those So I mean for a fan

It was probably cool night to be able to see some of the things That were going on at Florence And I qualified 13th which I was pretty happy with Dang It's a step up Let's go That's right. My car was really, really good in practice.

We bolted on multiple sets of tires that felt great. When the race started, I didn't have any rear drive, and I knew I was going to be in trouble. But I thought maybe I could manage it, and hopefully everybody else was experiencing the same thing. But I ended up burning the rear tires off of it and think we finished 18th. We were lost about five or six spots during the last 20 laps.

It was brutal. And I got the left for a quarter pound knocked off. of it because I was trying to keep all them young lines behind me. But my radio quit working. Oh. Yeah. So not an excuse, but when I race, I'm the second car, right? So we're using like the B team on the radios.

The radios themselves aren't all that great. And so this one radio that I was using for the race, the connection and where the plug plugged into the radio itself was a bit faulty. And it quit working in practice, but I thought I'd fixed it. I'm out there running in the race, and this is a multi-grew track. And I've got guys on both sides trying to run the top and trying to run low. And like lap 30, the radio just stopped. Like I couldn't hear my spotter or nobody.

And I didn't have a radio for about 50 laps. And so I ran one guy right off the racetrack. His name is Galinsky. I know he was pretty upset. But I really had no idea where he was at. Yeah. But I knew he was somewhere trying to get to the outside, but I didn't know if he was there. And I didn't want to give up the spot if I didn't have to, but I wasn't really sure.

And I ran over the right front of a couple guys getting down into turn three. I knew they were trying to get underneath me, and I was just trying my hardest to keep him back here. But I didn't really have a spotter to tell me how inside were they. That is fun. Had a good time. race again in October and probably run a couple more next year we'll just gonna see how it goes

so are the mirror is not super reliable yeah need that camera no the mirrors the mirrors are reliable they are but I mean you know it's it's a really short track you're not really ever straight on the straightaway you're small

you got a guy trying to get to your outside a guy trying to look underneath you and like you got which mirror do you look You got two mirrors. You really, you're driving the shit out of this thing. Right. So I was just like, hey, you know, I'm just going to run my line and try my best not to make too big a mistake. But it was fun.

Had a good time. Tor has three races left before the end of the year. Closing in on the, you know, we got South Boston coming up in a couple weeks. And then there's Tri-County. And then Wilkesboro was the final race of the year. And so. Crowd will look good. Crowd was decent.

I would say it was decent. I thought it was pretty good. It was about half of what we had there for the South Carolina 400. But still pretty decent. It's awesome. Yeah. I went to the Wilkesboro Championship race last year, and it was a good time. Good, yeah.

I'm going to try to go watch that one. I won't be able to get to South Boston, I don't believe. But, yeah, looking forward to Track County. I'm going to slip over there on a Wednesday or something and go test my car a little bit if I can't get something comfortable and try to have some fun on this last race of the year for me. Awesome. Go support our friend Brandon Brown, too, at South Boston.

Yes. He's a good dude. He's a general manager over there. He is. Good dude. This next question is from Kyle. They saw you retweeted Ryan McGee. He had a poll out on Twitter,

which was basically asking, what's the most appropriate way to play music at the beach? Yes. And they wanted to know what was your vote. on his poll. Like, what do you think is the most appropriate? Oh, what were the options? Here, I'm pulling it up.

The options were, um, where are y'all with people's Bluetooth speakers on the beach? Doesn't bother me. Reasonable volume is okay. Reasonable volume is okay. Reasonable volume is okay. It's ridiculous.

I looked in the comments and there were people saying, hell no, keep it turned off. It's like, who the hell are you to, tell anybody that wants to go out on the beach, you're going to tote all that shit out there, all the stuff for the kids, the umbrella and the chairs and everything else, and you can't turn on a Bluetooth speaker. Come on. Everybody can turn on their speaker. I can get, do you know, you even, the people, I think the people that are saying turn it off, don't play your

Bluetooth speaker on the beach, don't even go to the beach. You can go to the beach, right? Turn on your speaker, walk 10 feet away, and not hear it. Yeah. I agree. Because waves, waves, wind, kids, whatever. It's like, it don't even, I mean, and you're, you know, I don't know. I'm sure there's some bad experiences.

The people that are saying turn it off are just a bunch of grouches. I don't know about that. I'm playing my music. And I will be respectful. I'll keep it turned down. You know, you don't need to be blaring music on the beach. You just need a little song here playing.

You don't keep you in the mood. I think like you said, it'd be hard to be disrespectful. How could you go to the beach and not hear music? What are you doing? Yeah, what are you doing? You'd have to really turn it way up or have one of them huge speakers

that really annoy people. Well, I mean, some people do. I've been to the beach and I've, I mean, I'll, my, my preference is to have no, my preference is to be like 20 feet from people or more, right? So, like, having a little bit of room.

Right. Yeah, and if I can hear your speaker, from that distance it's a little getting there reasonable volume reasonable distance but the thing is

I might hear your speaker as soon as I turn mine on I can't hear yours yet yeah well it's a deal just let people play their music two three seats away it's hard to hear anyway

with your own yeah most time right live and let live yeah someone Eric in the YouTube chat in all caps said get off my lawn

yeah get off my beach you know the the um McGee is the one always talking about the guy

with the leaf blower in his neighborhood oh he so he's very sensitive wait I don't know about this yeah oh he has a hatred for people leaf blowers

every every other day especially this is this time of year right we're coming into that time of year all leaves are going to be going down and get ready because you're going to see McGee every other day posting the video

of just staring out his window into the neighborhood and this whirr this leaf blower and he's going to start cussing leaf blow So I have a question though

So it's a little different for you Because where you live You don't deal with it But what time is too early To be like mowing your lawn Or leaf blowing Well where I was Last night

Somebody was having a little target practice Oh Yeah And you know You're out in the country You're like I You know People are doing a little target practice

Amy will come in Golly man Who's shooting I'm like well we're in the country So I mean they're shooting sometimes. Maybe they saw a coyote. Yeah.

I don't know. Yeah, maybe they're getting that coyote. But like, I've seen people mow at 7 a.m. like that's in like a residential area. Like, that's a tad early. I think close to eight. I don't think you should be doing anything that's going to wake people up before 8 o'clock. Yeah.

I think that's fair. Yeah. So, I mean, you know, if you're, if you're outside moving before 8 o'clock, you shouldn't be making enough noise that it will get the attention to the neighbor. I'm with you. Lance in the YouTube chat said never before 8 a.m. Yeah. So there you go.

That's probably the rule. Yeah. And probably watch your music at the beach before that time, too. Do you want to drive over to McGee's and with leaf blowers and just stand outside his house? I want to know where he lives now. Just so we can go. Let's just go over there. Start blowing leaves.

Is he like, that's my ring. That's my ring tone for when he calls. Yeah. But like, what's the alternative? Sometimes you just need to get a leaf blower out. I guess that I probably, if I was him and I lived in town, because he lives in like dense neighborhood. Yeah.

Every other day some, some neighbor is like, go out and blow my leaves this morning. And they can't all just have like a unified day. Like Thursday's the day. Nope. Every other day like this guy over here, this guy over here, this guy over here. So it probably is annoying. But is there that many trees in a dense neighborhood?

I would be honest. Like I would probably not even notice it. Yeah, I live in a dense neighborhood and I never crossed my mind. somebody might go, man, the leafblower, and I'd go, oh, I didn't even notice. You know, I've got some used to it. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. God bless McGee. Okay, this next question is from James on Twitter. What did you think of Lee Diffey calling Carson Hosevar the Hurricane as his nickname? And what's the best nickname out there right now for the active drivers? We're former drivers. Yeah, I think that's fine. So I like that.

Because nicknames should come from someone else. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, absolutely. You're not allowed to give yourself a nickname. No. You're not allowed. You can't self-appoint a nickname.

And so that's the perfect way to get one for Carson, right, is by getting it from the play-by-play guy, perfect, right? So I'm all in on that. some of the best nicknames I like the nicknames that have a little bit of a humor humor to them and they may be a little deprecating to the driver so when Kerry

he's my brother love him to death when he started racing at Hickory he bounced off of a lot of shit so his nickname for a short period of time was ricochet you know I think that's awesome yeah right you know people Ricky Stanhouse Jr. Awesome guy

Love them to death. I'd say we're great friends. People calling Rackie. Yeah. Recky Stenhouse, right? I think it's hilarious. Yeah. Those are my favorite type of nicknames, honestly.

But what are some other ones in the similar? Like Bowman the Showman, Slice Bread for Lugano. Yeah. Bowman the Showman is okay. That Jones boy. That Jones boy, yeah. I think, silly, like if I'm Eric Jones, I think that's badass,

because Ken Squire Davidson. I agree. Hunter, yep. You got me there. Yeah. Yep. I don't know. I think Hurricane Hosevar, the hurricane, especially how he just barrels through everything,

is pretty darn good. It's good. Routy? We like that? Oh, Rowdy's good. Routy's classic. Was that self-appointed? I think, I feel like it was.

Because I feel like you put it on a scheme that he had. Yours was just like Junebug? Yeah. I don't know. There are watchtrip music on me that. Yeah. Yeah. But I don't know that I have.

a nickname. I couldn't really think of anything that came to mind outside of that. Junior. Yeah. But that's also kind of your name. Not really my name.

Swerving for Ernie Irvin. Swerving for Ervin. Swerving Irvin. Perfect. Yes. Oh, that's good. Perfect. Iceman, Terry Labani. That was good.

Rusty was rubber head or rubber neck or something like that. Rubberhead. TJ, do you have a nickname? I didn't have a nickname. Should you give you one? I mean, I mean, no, I actually,

Willie's called me the general. General. We call him a general because he thinks he knows everything. Is that it, T.J? I don't know. That's not it. I mean, maybe. I don't know. So he doesn't know. Somebody needed to tell somebody what to do. That is accurate. TJ is the general because he's never wrong. That's accurate. Very accurate.

That and two, I'll say this. Like, T.J. as a commissioner for, like, T.J. as a commissioner for, like, fantasy football or, or, or, you know. know, E-sports college football league or whatever. That's, you know, he's good at those type of things, kind of corraling, running, managing. It's a thankless job. I'm the general. Yeah, and that's a bit of where he gets the nickname from. Yeah, we call him the general.

Somebody's got to make a decision and stick with it. So did we, have we advanced? What are you talking about? Oh, yeah, we're in. Oh, yeah, we're rolling. Yeah, we're rolling. So it's supposed to advance tonight. Yeah, we are.

My tags on all my stuff is Unical. Yeah. My, I love the, I don't know that, you know, I'm apologetically nostalgic as hell and love the orange and blue Unical 76 colors and all that represents to like historic NASCAR. And when we used to race online before like, you know, my, my earliest custom schemes were all like number 76 Unical, blue and orange. I just thought those are cool colors. And so when I would play any kind of shoot-em-ups, battlefield, whatever, my call, my gamer tags Unicow. Oh, no, mine, I used to go by,

we watched that Western one time, a long time ago, The Stranger. Oh, yeah, the Stranger. Remember from Eastwood? Clean Eastwood. Yep. So I would just be the stranger in a lot of things. That's not really a nickname, but that,

Unicale's kind of like how people in the, gaming world. Yeah, they know you by. Well, yeah, I don't see anybody walk down, walk into the store and be like, hey, what's up, Unicale? Some people call me that. That'd be cool, though. You're going to start calling you the stranger. Well, I thought that, the stranger's here again. I thought that movie. Yeah, stranger kept showing up. Yeah. I started using it and like, call of duty and all that battlefield and stuff. I started using that because I liked that movie was really, I'd never seen that movie until that day, and I thought it was badass. So I started using it.

Well, good. Um, I'm seeing a lot of good nicknames in the YouTube chat as well. If you want to share them. Skull Bandits, Clyde. Oh, yeah, the Bandit. Fireball. Clyde's a good one. Yeah, it's a lot of good ones. Yeah.

And we have some more good questions. What do you think Chase's nickname is? Chase Briscoe. What do you think his nickname is? Oh, I don't know. Turn Chase on. Yeah. We need to.

Why can't we do both? We can't roll in? Because we're not set up for. Hey, fans. You know what? Chase Brisco. Chase Briscoe just called in and we were going to bring him on into this YouTube live, but Travis won't allow it.

We are live on YouTube. We're live on YouTube. We can't show him. Why can't we show him? Because we don't have that set up. But we can hear him? Can we hear him? Unmute him.

Can he talk? Jerks. Unmute him. Hold on a second here. Does he want to go live? Nod, Chase, if you're okay. Nod, Chase, if you're a same place, giving a thumbs up.

Okay, his volume is up. What was your nickname? What's your nickname, Chase? Right off the bat. My dad always was risky, brisky so sometimes people come brisky brisky brisks yeah I remember I won

a race when I was younger in the newspaper called me Frisky brisky but I didn't Frisky briske oh my gosh that's hilarious That's good well why don't we Wrap up Asch Jr. The fans got to hear Chase Briscoe and this is a good You know segue to fans love Frisky brisky

To the full show to hear this But thanks to Exfinity for this That's right thanks Exfinity for bringing up to bringing us today's Asch Jr. segment in racing and in life speed is an optional. It's expected. As a driver and Xfinity series owner, I rely on things that perform under pressure. That's why I go to Xfinity

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thanks for tuning in, man. Coming off of, do you think that it was a good luck charm that you did the guest segment of the Dell Jr. Download last week? Yeah, I was going to ask if you wanted me to come in the next nine weeks and knock it out, yeah. Well, hopefully, just this conversation alone will carry on some good look. But you're locked in to the next round. So tell me, I mean, you've probably been in this situation before. What is this feeling going into the next couple of races, being able to kind of leap ahead in preparation and put your focus into the next round? Yeah, I mean, the only real experience, I guess, I have is in the Xfinity series.

I think I was able to win the first race of two rounds. And it definitely changes your outlook, I guess, or your preparation just for the, you know, knowing kind of what the first race is in the next round. You know, like for me, loudness is something that I'd already told James I wanted to work on. kind of in advance just because it's a track I feel like I really struggle at. So we'll probably just put a little more emphasis on Loudoun than what we typically would as far as how early we start doing that. But I mean, for us, it's still super important these next two weeks to go and try to win stages and win the race.

I mean, even at Darlington, we went from, you know, 10 playoff points to 17. We basically doubled our playoff points, which is going to be huge for the rounds going forward. So, I mean, that's a huge point of emphasis for us. next two weeks is, you know, let's try to get as many playoff points as we can. That'll help us in these later rounds. And now having the win in the bank, you know, we can definitely, you know, be a little more aggressive on strategy. And, you know, we're not point racing like everybody else is. So we can, you know, maybe make a little more, you know, off the wall call.

Last, uh, this past weekend, um, watching the several, uh, you know, the final few laps of that race was really fascinating to me. Um, you know, Hedick's car was pretty incredible. He had a little more pace than you. What are you thinking in those final few laps? What are you needing to do to make sure to, you know, make things as difficult as you can on him? What are you concentrating on making sure you do correctly? It was definitely tough. You know, when that final caution came out, you know, I think it was going to be a 48 lap, Green Flag run. And I knew I was going to be in trouble, truthfully, just because my car, I mean, was phenomenal for 25 laps. Like, I felt like I had.

I had three to four tenths on the field of lap. But on the back end of those runs, I was four to five tenths worse than, you know, Redick especially. So I knew when that final run came, if it went green at the end, I was going to be in a world of hurt. And, yeah, he caught me with like 20 to go, and I just had to start changing what I was doing. You know, all night long, we saw him kind of do that, you know, high entry into turn one. And that was something that I just have never really done there. I've always ran, honestly. It's the Denny Hamlin line.

Yeah, like I've always been the opposite. I run almost way lower than everybody into one. That's just how I've always ran that place. And as he got to me, I just had to kind of learn on the fly, you know, what I needed to do to run that upper lane. And, you know, my car was so loose. It just was honestly putting me in, I felt like really vulnerable spots. But the big key for me was just making sure that I just nailed three and four.

I felt like if I would nail three and four, you know, I would typically at least have five. to say maybe eight car links through turns one and two, and I felt like I would lose, you know, four car links almost every single time through turns one and two. So I just had to get through three and four good. And that was my main focus. And I think a lot of it helped me, you know, truthfully just having all the experience I've had at Darlington and, you know, late race situations battling for the win there. You know, if there's going to be any place I'm in that situation, you know, Darlington is the best place for me to do that just because I've felt like with all the

experience I've had in different races there. I've kind of learned what to do and what not to do. And I felt like I definitely used that. Those last 10, 15 laps, you know, this past weekend. Well, in the next round, you have New Hampshire Motor Speedway. Do you guys go to St. Louis this weekend trying to kind of learn or compare because of the similarities between the two tracks? I do think that you can maybe learn a little bit.

I mean, it's tough because Loudness is so much rough. than what St. Louis is. But, you know, if your car turns good at Loudoun or turns good at St. Louis, it should turn, you know, you would think decent at the other ones. So, yeah, I'm sure that there's something, you know, you can learn this weekend. You know, obviously, I'm not the setup guy, right? But I do think that as a team, there's got to be something they can learn this week to apply for, you know, two weeks down the road.

Yeah, is there tracking that round with New Hampshire, Kansas, and Charlotte, the Roval, that concerns you? I mean, Loudon would be the only one that really, like, it doesn't concern me because I know that we're going to be fast still. It's just as a driver. I feel like Loudon is, you know, one of those tracks I've always felt just truthfully, extremely lost. It's always been Sonoma, Richmond, and Loudon for me that are just three tracks that I've just, I don't know, like I can't quite figure them out. But this year, just with the prep work of how, you know, JGR kind of prepares me for the week. You know, honestly, Sonoma, I mean, we ran second all day long.

It went from being my worst road course to Ariably our best this year. And then even Richmond, you know, I was probably a top five car all night. So I know that going to Loudoun will be good again. But definitely I'll just have to put a little more emphasis on, you know, driving technique. You can try to, you know, learn some stuff there. But fortunately for me, you know, my teammates are really, really good there. I mean, Christopher is probably the best guy there is around that place.

So I'll have all his stuff to look at and just try to, you know, copy it as best as I can. Absolutely, man. Well, we appreciate the time today. Congratulations on a win at one of the toughest racetracks to drive in the series. It's got to be a proud thing for you just personally as a driver to have two wins back-to-back at Darlington because everybody knows and respects the guys that can go there and win races in this deal. So congratulations. Appreciate you coming on the show and have fun this weekend.

Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me. Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen. Place your bets. All right, it's time for the Dirty Mo Doe here with Tampa Timbs. Joining us also is Russell, the professor, T.J. Travis Thames, we're all here together. The manufacturing parlay. Let's take a look here. Did anybody get right? You went two for three. Oh, damn!

Well, Almondinger was the best Chevrolet. No one had that. Crazy. No, that's crazy. Yeah. All right, Almondigger screwed up that. Predictor did not have AJ up there. Yeah, where was he on the predictor? He was higher up than he usually is, but he was not the best Chevrolet by far. Maybe we shouldn't look at the predictor point blank.

You didn't go at the predictor last week, so the predictor was wrong. What I'm thinking is maybe we should know, maybe we should identify when the predictor says, this guy's a little higher than usual. Okay. Maybe we should take a little no. Yeah. Yeah. But he wasn't like, I don't know.

I get it. No, he shouldn't be. He's never going to be way up there. No predictor's going to put him in the top three. But if the predictor said, you know what, AJ's about five spots better this week. You're right, Dale. He should have been a long shot.

That's my. We should have all, if I had the predictor in front of me, or if one of us, maybe we would have noticed. but we only got one guy looking at it. Can you not share your screen? Yeah, share your screen, Russell. We got to have some stuff. All right.

You don't really have to share your screen. I don't know, I don't think I want to know what's on that screen. It's just a picture of his Emmy. Probably a Bowman back. It's a backdrop. His Bowman. Oh, can he only see his Emmy. He's got his Emmy tiled across the screen.

Actually, he's got Alex Bowman holding the Emmy. Yeah. All right. Well, the betting favorites for this week at St. Louis. Blaney at plus 400. Yeah. Wow. Bell at plus 500.

Hamlin, Larson, and Legato at 950. Man, I don't know. For the record, Hamlin is 60, Larson's 850. Glad you got that in. Well, the way you said you grouped them together. Did he bros? Yeah, hey, Hall of Famer. Let's see what Russell.

things about the favorites for this particular weekend. I don't disagree. I like Bell as well. That rhyme. But Legano has got to be the overall favorite. He's been top five in all of these. He's won here. He's been good in Exfinity here. So I think the Lugano one is the overall favorite. And it's a Penske track. They won two to the three here. I like Cindrick as well. Cindricks's way higher on the predictor than he usually is. You want to look at that? There it is. Thank you. There we go. He's been first, 13th, and 11th here. So, like, this is a great track for him.

Yeah. According to him, he's going to lose some points this weekend. We'll see. And then I also like Hosebar as a sleeper. Tim's Cendrick is 1600. Is that a number? I don't love that, but, I mean, this is a Penske track. They're so good of these types of tracks. Of this group, I actually like Ligano, even though he's plus 950, which isn't great. I think he lights out. Won the first year, right? Yeah. And then where did he finish the next two?

It was like third and fifth. Russ, what about Tyler Reddick? He was fourth last year and then struggled the two before that. But I would say he's mid-pack. Like on these types of tracks, I have a mid-pack as well. I like Larson here, just so you know. Larson tested here. So I feel like he's going to come with some heat here.

How important is that to test there? I just think anytime you get a test, then he's going to go back and his first laps on the track are probably going to be a little crisper and a little cleaner than the other guys that haven't been there in a year. So I feel, I don't know, I just feel like he's due for a rebound.

And I think, I just think he's going to be strong. Yeah, overall, this is not a good track for Hendrik, though. I'm surprised Travis didn't tell us about Denny. Denny's good? I mean, he does have two top fives. Not two dot times. He was runner up the last two years. And then the other one was his fiasco with Chastain.

With Ross, yeah. Yeah. What makes you think Bell's going to be so good? Just these kind of tracks he runs well at. He's kind of been quiet. I think you're forgetting Briscoe again. Briscoe did sit on the pole here and lead a bunch to his left rear blue. So I think Briscoe goes back with a...

I just think they're hitting their stride, too. They got a lot of confidence in each other. Briscoe's got a lot of confidence in qualifying. Just won a race. I think, you know, if I had to pick three, it would be Blaney or Briscoe and Larson would be my three. Who's the best Chevrolet? I would go to Larson. It's Larson or Byron for me.

Byron was a little bit off at Darlington, though. It kind of concerned me a little bit because he's been strong there. I think Rudy was like they just missed it. Yeah. Yeah. The Chevrolet thing. just seems a little murkier. It's kind of like become what the Ford usually is.

You know how hard it is to figure out the best Ford. That's a Chevrolet. Just like, God, that's crazy about NASCAR. It's like every single week the storylines turn upside down. The problem is if Hendrik lays an egg like they did Darlington, it could be anybody. I know. It could be Austin Dillon. Yeah, exactly.

Hosevar. I mean, I honestly think Hosevar could, could be the have a shot to be in the top Chevy this week. He adapts to that track really well. When he ran that, which car did he run there a few years ago? He ran the Spire car when Corey Lejoy got the chance in the nine. And he ran like top 15, 16, like all day in it, which I thought was very impressive. Then he had break problems and then he finished top 10 last year.

Yep. I think he'll qualify well and that'll give him good pitfall. pick he'll have some confidence and I think he could race as well. Very good as well but I got Blaney, Briscoe and Larson is my three. I'm going to go with Bell Ligano Larson. Bell Ligano Larson. I'm going Blaney Larson Hamlin. I'm with you Russ. I'm going I'm going Denny Bro this week.

Denny Ligano Larson. I'm with Tim's on this one. The boots in the same page. Also before we end the segment, T.J. Tim's, you had your moment last week. What Texas do? Seemed pretty quiet. Yeah.

Bad game. I mean, are you really, I mean, you should have won by way more just so you know. If you went by an inch or a mile, it still counts in the same fucking win. I mean, not in college football. The fuck it doesn't. If you win by a mile, you get definitely a lot more votes and you look better in the rankings and you, like, it matters. What's better in the rankings? Ohio State, if they're undefeated, it's going to be number one.

Doesn't matter. But if they lose, it doesn't college football take account. If we lose, we won. Don't they take into account how big a victories are and stuff, like the point spreads and stuff? If Ohio State goes undefeated, they're going to be just fine with the rankings. I'm worried about them going undefeated with barely winning over that sidearm Uncle Rico. Over Texas?

Get out of here. You got to play Penn State, too, bud. Yeah, I'm really worried about James Franklin. Listen to him I mean he is He's not He'll be worried about James Yeah annoying Travis

Ohio State Travis is back That's true Can we just put the screenshot of his face In that game up on TV Which one It's multiple Yeah I had a bunch of parleyes put up

And Boise stayed and Alabama ruined them Oh Alabama probably ruined a lot of them Yeah This week on a fan duel. There's a no sweat bet on the Cowboys Eagles game. Also a 50% profit boost on the same game. Might have to get into that. Yeah, it's like a eight and a half. 50% profit boost. Spread, man. That's a tough one. Yeah. Well, I would probably take the money line on the Eagles and then just put a couple of player prop in there. Some yardage. What about your commanders?

First, the Giants. There are a big thing to be written. I mean, I, man, the Giants look. Pretty decent preseason. Not that that sells anything, but. They got neighbors at wide receiver. He's freaking cheat code. Yeah. And they got a new quarterback room this year.

They just look different. They really don't know what to expect. They look different right now. They'll be tough. I enjoy, because I don't think. We played them so tough last year. Ended up winning the game on seven or nine field goals. I remember that, yeah.

It was a record. We never scored any touchdowns, but we won on field goals. But I think, we'll just have to see. I'm curious, I suppose, as to how can our defense be Ben, don't break? Well, you were a little bend, a little break last year. So I think our offense is ready to go. But I'll probably do some more college football this weekend. I might slow my role just a little bit.

Let's, I want to build a parlay. Give me SMU money line. Against Baylor? Yeah. Dude, they were good last year. They were. They still should be good. The quarterback still there.

Yeah. Why is that not, is Baylor that good? They lost. They lost Auburn. I think they're perceived as good. Baylor? Yeah. I don't think they're that good.

Who did SMU play this past weekend? I'm not sure. I think they had a tune-up game. A tune-up. All right, what do you got, Tim's? NFL or college, doesn't it? I'm going to have to go with Florida over South Florida.

It's a little juicy. It's might say 50. Virginia Tech minus one and a half over Vandy. I'll take Oregon State over Fresno. All right. That's the Dirty Bodeau segment. Thank you, Russell.

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for this weekend. All right, it's time for the white flag. Start it off with the tear down. It was live on YouTube, Twitter, following the race. And for part of the show, Chase Briscoe, the winner at Darlington, and joined Jeff Gluck and Jordan.

Appreciate him taking time out of his busy evening for that. Doorbubber Clear dropped on Monday. You were part of that, T.J. Yeah, filled in there for a little bit. Have a little flashback? A little bit, yeah. Are you missing it? Is that why you went and did that?

I don't know. I think Freddie missed me. Up and down, race for Denny and the number 11 team. Jesus Christ. And he talked about all of that on action is detrimental. And Wednesday, my guest interview with Deb Williams. She's been in this business for a long time covering the sport. She's going to have a lot of great stories about a lot of things that she experienced.

And Herman Schrader and Spee Street also coming out on Wednesday. Thursday, another episode of Bless Your Heart. I'll be back in the studio with Amy this week. Thank you to Laura Boria for filling in last week. I watched that show and it was a lot of fun. Were you worried about maybe some stories they might tell you? Not at all. I think that's what the show is great about,

is hearing about, you know, a little bit of the family side or the personal side of some of the, some of the, not only the drivers, but the wives as well. Yeah. On Friday, the Dirty 30 comes out, another episode. It's a recap show, 30 minutes long. Not everybody has time to listen to every show, so this is sort of the highlights of everything that we do here at Dirty Mo Media

every Friday, the Dirty 30. Check it out. We'll see you. Have a great time. Tomorrow, Deb Williams.