The Dale Jr. Download - Dale Jr. Is Fired Up After Daytona — And You Should Be Too!

Episode Date: August 26, 2025

It’s the end of the NASCAR regular season, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the studio for a brand-new edition of Dirty Air. He and co-host TJ Majors debrief after the big weekend in Daytona and take a look at what’s to come in this year's Playoffs:Parker Kligerman wins as relief driver for Connor Zilisch and JRMFive drivers for Kaulig Racing’s Dodge RAM Truck teamCup racing has been improving the last few weeksLess fuel saving at DaytonaSome early Playoffs predictionsRace winner Ryan Blaney joins the showDuring the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners wrote in questions regarding:Who has the most influence over paint schemes?Drivers talking to each other on the radio during racesThe story behind the Dale Jr. “Attitude” photoThe new Hell Let LooseThe NASCAR ‘25 game coverPlus, Dirty Mo Dough with Tampa Timms and the Professor for a betting preview for the upcoming race. And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMediaDirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They’ve got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuffFanDuel: Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call [phone] for 24/7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York.Consumer Cellular: New customers get a $5 credit on first five monthly invoices. Visit https://savings.consumercellular.com/DJD for details. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

All right, everybody, it's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download with my co-host, T.J. Majors, and this episode is brought to you by safety culture. We're going to talk about Daytona, Richmond, Old Tires, playoffs. Rex. Who's to blame for Rex? Yeah. We're going to do some Dirty Moe.

We're going to do Asch Jr. It's going to be a great show. Let's get going. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half. I don't know if we've ever argued. Did I piss you off over the weekend? I'm still sour Did I want the best man at your wedding?

Who was your best man, Dale? T.J. T.J. You don't need a cool best for that race? What are you thinking? Get them, T.J. Hellway is starting a show. All right then.

Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Down Low with my co-host, T.J. Majors. And it's an episode of Dirty Air on Tuesday. We are back in the studio. what are we going to talk about this week? Playoffs. Playoffs.

Yeah. Playoffs. Yeah, we'll talk about playoffs, talk about a little bit of everything else. Let's get started. The presenting sponsor for this episode of the Dell Jr. Download is safety culture. The workplace operations tool giving teams from the racetrack to the factory floor what they need to get the job done quicker and improve every day. Safety culture. You've seen them on the side of some race cars.

I think they got a little partnership with track house. SVG crushing it for them there you go SVG crush thanks for chiming in and joining me in this conversation safety culture I'm you know I can count on you every now and then

I don't know about that so let's get right into it man the Xfinity race for Zillich and Kligerman Oh yeah big race Yeah pretty cool So I called Parker I was like hey man

I talked to everybody here at June Mergerforce they thought man that's a great idea They, you know, we were just trying to figure out, like, how to be ready for, um, for, this was an unprecedented situation. When did you call Parker? I don't even remember. A couple days. Pretty early later, yeah.

Pretty early, yeah, a couple days after the Glenn. Oh, gotcha. Um, we, we knew, you know, I think I called maybe right before the surgery, because I remember telling Parker, I was like, we know, we're going to see how this surgery goes, but I think everything's pointing towards this, right? This process of, you know, hopefully, I knew that Connor wasn't going to race the whole race at Daytona. And I told Connor, I said,

even if the doctor, you know, said, you know, whatever, you're, you know, you're good to go. I think you should avoid it because of the, the potential to crash is like 80%. It's not worth it. No. He's got not, so he's got this, this sounds. I don't know how this will sound,

but he's got this cup career, this big thing. I didn't know the announcement was the other day. We don't know all the details, but I knew it was coming. But he's got this cup career, and I mean, as cool as it is for him to have an opportunity to run for the Xfinity Series championship,

you know, that's not as important as making sure that he's healthy and we don't make this situation worse, right? So you get greedy, go out there and double down and make this thing worse if he's getting a wreck. So we decided, you know, no matter what, you know, 99% chance that somebody else got to drive the car, we were just hoping he would be able to get in to start it. There was a world where, you know, he don't even get in the car.

I would be embarrassed if we handed him over to the track house. And he had a physical issue because we were like, we had to race him, you know. Got to go get that championship. And so it was, and he doesn't, he might understand it. I don't want to say he doesn't understand it, but he's eager to show he's tough. He can race. I can handle this, right? If you'd have let him, he'd probably ran the whole damn race at Daytona.

But anyways, we called Parker, and Parker's like, oh, man, let me see if I can talk to CW, because he's got a job. And so I told him, I said, we kind of might need you be ready at Portland just to be there. and he's like, well, I wasn't going to travel to Portland. They do the CW broadcast from the studio. And he's like, I probably can't do that. So we knew that Portland wasn't an opportunity. And so Parker couldn't be available for that.

But we still went with him for Daytona because he shows he's got the ability to run well there in the truck race. Almost, you know, he won that race got thrown out. He's very competitive there. Yeah. And same size. easy to work with. I know him as a person. He wasn't going to be a problem.

He would be fun and enjoy it. And when I got to the racetrack and got in the holler and was just kind of checking the vibe, I could tell right away. It was comfortable. Everybody was good. Parker knew his role. And none of us knew that day that, you know,

he's going to go out there and win a damn race. But we thought, you know, we would have some fun and just wanted to be good, you know, at the end of the day, hopefully we're all happy with how this went. And Parker, I wanted Parker just to see our culture and our team and what we're about and experience that a little more uniquely than he has, right? He's been a competitor for years. He's covered us as a broadcaster and so forth.

So, yeah, it all, I mean, it worked out as good as it could, right? I mean, a couple things. As far as, you know, I think about it from a, an owner's standpoint. There's a couple things with the one and the eight, you know, getting spun out. But the eight and a one, they kind of come back and get reasonable results. Sammy worked really hard all night to get a good result. And Justin had a really solid car and was in position to try to get the win.

And, you know, Parker was also up front in position to get the win and was the one to get the cross-finish line first. So, yeah, pretty good night for Juniper Sports. really awesome to see Parker sort of be able to celebrate, be, you know, everybody kind of felt like after the truck race, like, God, dang, man. You know, this kid's worked his ass off to sort of try to patch and put things together and give himself opportunity. He's also in this sort of flux of, man, maybe I'm not going to be a race car driver anymore.

I'm going to go over here and do this media thing, which he's very good at. and that's a very, I think, a very hard process to go through. I've seen a couple drivers that turn crew chief or turn engineer or turn something, right, that have a hard time sort of saying goodbye or closing the door on the driving part because, gosh, you know, that's your dream. And I think when he goes to, when Parker Klingerman goes and wins that, truck race and then they take it away from him and the tech line

everybody was like god that sucks you know got let the guy have something right and this is so Parker to like have this happen to him and so it was cool to have him go out there win the race get celebrated get get get get be able to be able be able to be happy

and even though it was unique circumstances so anyways yeah I mean I thought it was all awesome and glad it happened. This has been a year of just weird, you know, crew chief in the car at Pocono, Parker went in this race. There's a couple things this year

that have just been strange, but wild and fun and good, but weird. It ended well. Yeah. Did your demeanor how you were on the radio change when Parker got in the car versus your other drivers? I don't think so. I didn't really talk that much.

I just asked Parker, there was one time there was one time I think Parker was clear and I think the 21 was leading and I think Parker was clear to the bottom to jump in front of the inside line and maybe get pushed to the lead

and he didn't and I'm thinking you know listen I saw Austin Hill's comments I guess he was thinking man why didn't they help us they don't you know junior motor sports I just didn't feel like I had a lot of help from a lot of people

naming. Coming from that guy. Namely junior motor sports. Emma, I didn't read the comment, so I don't want to take it out of context. But, you know,

with all due respect to Austin Hill, he is, he's got the best track record in the Xfinity series at Daytona Talladega in the last handful of years. And so,

yeah. And so we, I tell my guys, I'm like, Listen, if you want to run second, help Austin Hill. If you want to, you know, if you push Austin Hill out into the lead with a couple laps to go, he's fucking hard to get around. Here it is, the quote right here. We never have the J.R.M. cars help us, Hill said after being released from the Ophield Care Center.

It doesn't matter if they're a Chevy Alliance or not. They don't help us at all. They'd rather work with a Toyota or a Ford than us. We really know that our backs are against the wall with the J.R. cars. Yeah, I would agree with that. I tell our team, you know, if you, if you want to run second, you know, help that 21 all you won't. Yeah, you'll go to the front, but you won't, you know, your likelihood of beating him and winning the race, it kind of, you know, goes down. Your chances of winning the race go up when you, when you don't help him, right?

And so. I mean, the one year we wrecked all four cars making sure he won the race. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just, you know, it isn't so much personal as it is, look, you know, that guy's the, that guy's the one guy that's going to be the toughest to be at that race track. And so you kind of have to learn over time that you do need to limit how much you help him. Yeah, because if he's in front of you're not getting him. It's a sign of respect. Well, if you're helping him, you're increasing his chance of winning the race.

So, you know, I tell them openly. I'm like, look, you know, I wouldn't help the 21. I would try to do everything I could to make his day as difficult as possible at that particular racetrack. So, yeah, that's just kind of, yeah, ended up working out good. That was probably the best solid finish for, like, all the JRM cars, like, as a group together and stuff, like working with each. other and that's right so that was good to see yeah i uh i i know that connor announced his cup deal to drive for a track house next year everybody kind of knew that was coming shocker i didn't see it coming there were a couple announcements over the

weekend uh i think all on the same day um there was the cover for the nascar 25 game with byron and a couple other people on there who else is on there uh blaney and bell and then there was another announcement uh the ram yeah that so kodagh colleague has five trucks. Right? And so, listen. What?

It's a lot. Yeah, it is. I think it's awesome. No, it's got. Yeah, me too. So, I'm a little, I think it's awesome.

I'm not going to sit here and say, well, I'd have done it this way, done it that way. I think that, I believe that they'll be some, you know, I think there'll be some, you know,

I think they'll be. be a process of trying to like get that thing up to speed but apparently you know i mean the the motor is spec so you know can the dodge you know can the dodge power plant do x y and z that's another question for the cup series down the road when dodge gets there um but so the the motor's covered uh basically they're just going to take a fucking cup bunch of trucks you know buy some but you know they'll build some new trucks maybe buy some trucks from spire whatever and cut the nose and tail off of and go racing and they'll be fine I bet that nose is a little different, but is it worse, better?

It's probably not a big deal at some tracks, particularly the truck. Could be better. Yeah, could be. So people are like, you know, what do you expect in terms of performance? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised. They come right out of the gate. They could win Daytona. They could have a great, you know, they could come right out of the gate very competitive.

What do you think they do for drivers? That's the question. So I'm the truck announcement is great. Colleague, great, five trucks, all those things. Yes, go on motor down the road. My mind goes right to who do they put behind the wheel of those trucks. And so I would be looking at the Xfinity Series for a couple drivers that are young, that look like they have real potential, that are also looking for opportunity.

I would also, I would be calling everyone of those young drivers in the Xfinity series. I would also be looking at the cars tour. I would be looking at local regional champions. We have Connor Hall in our late model stock car. I'd be calling Connor to see if he wanted to come drive a truck. He's a two-time national champion, drives our late model stock car. The car's tour, I think, is where a lot of guys, I know it's my tour. I know I'm biased.

But I think, you know, there's some racecraft that develops there that Butterbean has been able to take into the ARCA series and go dominate. Josh Barry, I mean, the list goes on and on of drivers that have come out of there and are well-tuned and ready for the next step, right? And so I believe it would serve RAM, colleague, and everyone well to have a bit of a mix.

Like you get yourself a shore, fire, can't miss veteran that can help you build the team, tell you where your trucks are and what you need and what you're feeling. You bring in some grassroots young guy that needs that everybody would be excited about and you kind of have a mix in between. Maybe a young kid that's currently in the truck series. Maybe someone who's a project or a prospect out of the Xfinity series, you know, that doesn't have a full-time deal for the next year. He would probably take a full-time truck ride with a RAM colleague partnership. The thing about it is, is I would look at this if I was the driver, especially some of these young guys.

I would look at this like, look, this has absolutely got a direct path to the Cup series. For sure, if you perform and you're, yeah, absolutely. You can go to a lot of these other programs, whether it be Xenity Series at Gibbs, junior motorsports, where, you know, all these other programs, there's a root to cup, but it ain't direct. Like Josh Barry, right, came, drove here. He ended up going over to Stewart Horse Racing. You know, his route, he got there, he got to the next level, but did you think it would be from Chevy branded to Ford branded to, you know, to, you know, to. to Woodbrother, no, nobody knew that was going to be his route, and it wasn't an easy one. And so there's not a more pure direct pipeline right now than this new Dodge pipeline.

Dodge is going to be a cup team in the next year or two. If you jump in one of their five trucks and you go out there and win races, you have firmly supplanted yourself as their future. future. They can't deny it. No one could. Why wouldn't they too? If you're winning for him here, they're going to want you there. They're going to go well. The logical next step is that this guy's going to go with him in our new cup program. I would be knocking the door down over at colleague trying to get to Chris Rice and Ty Norris to see what opportunity would be there for me if I was a young driver looking for a chance. And this is, I'm guessing the trucks are probably pretty well

funded. Oh, well funded. You kidding me? I mean, for, you know, you don't have to, this shouldn't have to be a bring money to race type thing. This won't be a bring money to race. Yeah. It'd be, you know, everybody, if they own or in a series that ain't going to turn down a couple million bucks when you walk in the door, but this deal right here, you won't have to have it. It's got to win. Yeah. Yeah. This is a cool deal. I mean, it's, it's big for the sport, too. Yeah. I mean, Ram's going to pour money into it. They're going to make sure it works. Uh, I'd say, I would go back and look at Toyota's entry into the truck series and kind of look at how they evolved in terms of performance and success.

I think they came into the trucks and actually did pretty well. I think it was Xfinity or maybe even the Cup series that it took them a while to really find success, start winning. Not that NASCAR really kind of has control over your performance, but I think Dodge's ability to win in the trucks is there now. Unload, got a chance to win, right? And they were successful before in all the series too, so they

have a good blueprint somewhere. I think as they go further, I don't think they're going to mess with the Xfinity series. I'd be surprised if they enter the Xfinity series. But I think once they get the cup, now that program will have a hard time getting going. It'll get there, but it's going to be a long, hard work. Is it easier now with this car, though, than it would

been before within or not or but same. I think the one thing that's probably going to be the toughest part for the Dodge guys will be the the engine. You know, if, and maybe that's come, maybe that comes together and that,

that works better than I think or I don't, I have no knowledge of information, but I just know that to, to bring their power plan and into the, into the Cup series and it do everything it needs to do and perform the way it needs to perform. And NASCAR is going to keep a very tight leash on all of that so that they don't, they can't come in and like overpower everybody or just, you know, oh, damn, you know, this thing actually runs fucking awesome, you know.

NASCAR is going to make sure that, because the other OEMs are going to go, all right, man, you know, you better hold them accountable, hold them within the, the confines of the power and torque that we have. So that's a little stickier. But do you not think if they unload good right off the gate, it brings other manufacturers could be like, oh, you know, we might be able to join this and be competitive pretty quickly.

In the Cup Series? Yeah. I don't know that it's too hard. I don't know that I'll be, I mean, I don't know that anybody can come in brand new OEM and unload in the Cup Series and be good. Wouldn't the motor, wouldn't it be easier now, though, than it would have been 15.

years ago to, you know, to... I wonder, I suppose, is how... How does their power plant and their motor, their V8 from years ago, where's the technology? How does it measure up to where we are today with what we're building? Because what... The motor you raced when Dodge was here years ago isn't the same motor we raced today. Not even close. And so, yeah, how quickly can they kind of scale up?

But they got a couple of years to figure that part out. But the truck series is turnkey with the spec motor and all that stuff. So they should be able to hit the ground running and be able to roll out of the, roll onto the track. And with the right setup and the right crew chief and all that stuff, a good driver. Yeah, they have some good opportunity to get some wins. Yeah. Be interesting to see who fills those five seats. I'm curious.

The last couple of weeks, we've had some really good races on the, on the cup side of things, the, I don't want to put it on exactly just one singular thing at Richmond, but the old, the softer tires seemed to make a difference at Richmond and everybody seemed

somewhat for the most part, entertained. There were still some critical detractors that just want to be critical. I do have a question about that. Richmond was a good race, and I agree it was good because there was strategies and stuff, but if we go back with the same tire Do you think they figure it out?

Well, I'm saying, did more teams go back and look at everything? Okay, the fastest strategy is this. We all start doing the same strategy again. Does it turn back? I don't know. I do think all that I think at Richmond, all that I want is the tire to be soft, the tire to wear out, the tire to fall off and the cars to move around and be able to move up second, third groove, and be fast.

And you can see that. Yeah. Yeah, I agree. TJ, to your point, though, maybe, but you can't predict. the caution so you can have your strategy and everyone can be on the same page but once that caution comes that's that was that's kind of been the case even back even back in the you know the 90s the 80s the 70s whatever whatever era it is that you say you love you would have a badass race at bristol one week one week and then you go back six months later and maybe you didn't get the yellows and the

race was you know we had a you know we had a race in 73 at bristol that kell yarborough led every single lap no cautions 500 laps Zero cautions. Hey, Bristol. And then you might go back there the next race and have 13 yellows and just all kinds of carnage. And if you love that kind of shit, you had a blast. Which I probably did if I was a kid, especially. But I love going to Bristol and watch them tear all that shit up.

It's the best thing. But I think that what we learned, listen, here on this show, we got really kind of critical of the sport over the last. three or four weeks. And I still feel a certain type of way about specific parts and pieces with the next gen car in terms of short tracks, road courses, and so forth. And I, again, like I said several weeks ago, I wouldn't, I would never rest on how things they're going, I would always be trying to like,

how can we make this better? How can we make this better? And I would still feel that, I would, I still feel that same way today. But we did have, you know, we did have a, we, we had what I would, what I would say is, is the expectation in terms of, uh, entertaining and, and what we should see every single week. We had that at Richmond and we had it again at Daytona. Speaking about Richmond, the soft tire, uh, they're taking that same tire to New Hampshire. Good possibility.

that we'll have some good results from that. We'll see how that kind of works at New Hampshire. I'm excited about it. New Hampshire in the next-gen car, actually, I've really liked. In the car that we had before this at New Hampshire, they ran one specific line for the most part, and if you got off that line and jumped the seams or tried to run low or whatever,

it was pretty much for the most part of one-and-a-half groove track. In the next-gen, dude, they're running. that son of a bitch all the way up into the third groove where the modifies them. Yeah, we're getting high. It's wild. Yeah. I like it. Yeah, I do too.

And man, I remember being there and seeing that for the first time in the broadcast booth. I'm like, holy shit, they're in the third groove way up there where there's some really fucking old sealer. And I'm like, man, if they kick that sealer off and get that shit hot and grippy, it's going to be awesome. And yeah, you had, it was wild. You had guys way up the racetrack long, late in the run. I think with this tire, you can probably see more of that. So I'm kind of bullish on New Hampshire just because I think the next-gen

car has kind of been fun to watch there no matter what. Now with this tire, I'm even more looking forward to that race. And then let's move on to Daytona. Daytona, T.J. Daytona, the racing and the energy of the pack, the eagerness for everybody to like want to go up front, lead, the everybody kind of being on the offense. Holy shit. It was completely different from what we've seen at Daytona and Talladega,

which has been maddening over the last couple of years, where everybody's like riding around two seconds off the pace saving fuel as much as they can. It's better in that regard for sure. What happened? How? Well, the first stage, we didn't stop. Yep. So you just go hard.

I just went hard. Yeah, but you're still, I don't know, they're still saving because you're just trying to shorten your stop. The last one. The last one. Third stage. Yep. But see, I didn't, I still saw it as, it's kind of gridlocked a little bit. Really?

Yeah, I mean, to me, that was still gridlocked. And I know Blaney's, everyone was like, well, Blaney won from 13th. Blaney didn't do anything but being the right line. And it moved forward at the, because guys were making them move. that they probably wouldn't have made a little bit earlier in the race because they're just going to get to the front and kind of hang out in that lane and stay there. They're not going to drive all the way to the bottom and make moves like that.

I felt like, and you can tell me if I'm right, I felt like that the surface of the racetrack is finally starting to turn loose a little bit. I saw... Handling is really getting more. Issues. They were coming up off the bottom out of four. And that's where my judge is. I watched the car as exit four.

And if they don't stay right on the line and they're like all sliding up as a group, I'm like, okay, some of these. And we saw some issues in the beginning. That's how. Saw it in Xfinity race. Jeff Burton got tied off a four into the eight car. You know, and that, I think we need that surface of that racetrack, man. When it starts to age and starts to get, you know, get loose some grip and the balance goes away over the course of the run. Racing goes up.

Holy shit's fun. Yeah, the racing gets better. You could see it like even Redick and like the wreck with Joey and them like the reason that Kyle got inside Joey is because Joey came up off the bottom and they got I think they got what three four wide right there that that's those don't happen those moves don't happen when everybody's gripped up and they can turn the wheel whenever they want. Well there's a combination of the track aging a bit. the you know and just the caution's falling at you know the right time and and keeping the teams of where they weren't really needing to to starve the cars and and save all that fuel you know we haven't a green flag stop at Daytona in three races now really at least i think at least well i i really and you know the other thing too is they you know the i think the hendrick cars

were out there on old tires, and Chase Elliott came over the radio and said, tires matter. Like, we need to make, I need to let you know. We haven't had to worry about it for years here. But I got to tell you, tonight,

I'm going to have to have you think, he's telling his crew chief, like I'm going to have you thinking tires matter. We need to change our sort of, that was really good to hear. That a driver was like, yeah, man, you know, because for a long time,

the damn surface was so new. The tires were so hard. You're just like, yeah, fuck it, don't put tires on it. It's going to help going to drive any different. You only took tires when you needed fuel. Yeah. And so, you know, now they're like, look, you know, I can manage on these old tires, but they kind of matter. And when you can put some new tires on it, put them on there.

Yeah. I think it needs another step, but it's going on that direction. It's going on that direction. How much did the car or the big wreck and the cars not open it up and allow them to race? that has to do with it. A lot of people were saying that, like, oh, well, there are fewer cars in the pack. Well, you make it sound like there was 20 cars that were out of the wreck. I mean, I think there was only six cars out.

Hold on. He's asking a question because it was a... I mean, Denny brought it up. Like other people, it's not me. I'm just asking you guys. I've always felt like that the smaller the pack, the less likely there will be passing. Now, you know, when we would, when you would, and that, look, I'm not driving, I'm not driven the current car out on there and, and don't know exactly how the car creates runs and so forth.

I think I can look at it and watch it and kind of have an understanding of what I'm seeing. But if you, you know, if you, for decades there, you know, you put, if you had, if you have two cars out on the racetrack running by themselves. The guy, the second car can't pass the first car by himself. He kind of have some energy from behind. You put the third car out there, the gap between all those guys gets smaller. You put the fourth car out there, the gap gets even smaller. But they're still probably not able to really make passes happen.

If the lead guy wants to just stay in the lead, he probably can control it and keep it. And as you keep adding cars, you keep creating runs and accordion effect and, and things start to change for the guy in second or third or fourth. And the more cars, the more that sort of increases, right? So I think 20 car, I mean, if you ran all of them for a thousand laps straight, if you just put them out there and they ran 1,000 laps, if you had 40 cars on the track during those thousands of 1,000 laps, you'd have probably more passing

than if you had a 20 car pack run a thousand laps. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I agree. So as far as like the kind of shuffling amongst the pack in the middle, in the back, even at the front,

40 cars over 1,000 laps are going to probably do more passing. More positions will exchange hands than if there's a 20 car pack. Which does change the air in there and it makes things more possible. Yeah. So I don't, I don't,

now Denny, I could see where when you said a minute ago, gridlock, with the next-gen car, the one thing I do see, and I saw it too in the Xfinity race.

And it's not just the next-gen thing, but I saw it in the Xfinity race too. The green flag come out and they ran side by side for like 10, 15 laps. Like, nobody changed any positions. And I'm like, oh, what the hell?

You know, this is interesting. But nobody can, the guy in eighth if you can't do shit he's got to stay in line if he jumps out of line they're just going to send him to the back so he's kind of screwed

he can't move even though he's got you know he's sitting there running half throttle if he pulls out of line he's just going to the rear so we kind of saw that an exfinity race for a little bit at times and that gridlock is kind of what you're talking about

when when everybody is when nobody wants to make any moves up front it basically forces the entire field to run side by side for 10, 1015 rows. I think it happened for the RFK, right? One of the RFK drivers? I don't know. What do you mean?

I feel like one of them got on the radio is like, I want to go, but we can't. No, the whole, when they were too wide and you got guys that were just going to stay too wide, you couldn't make the move. Because guys kept, they tried to make a third lane and it just wasn't happening. But with the stage, nobody happened, you know, we didn't have to save as much fuel. you did when you could. Now it went from save hard. You got to save, got to save two.

Well, save when you can, but go hard if you can't. Go hard if you need to. I think what Denny may mean when he says, you know, passing become easier or more likely when the field thinned out is because that gridlock of two by two by two by two for 10, 15 rows no longer was there with all those cars, right? and when 10 or 12 cars get knocked out of the lead pack, now there's some opportunity, I guess,

I think from a driver's standpoint, to be more creative and to take more risk because now when you pull out of line, you only drop eight spots instead of 20 spots, right? So now guys are like, I'll go for it. I'll pull out. Come on, let's see what we can do. because the risk of what you'll lose is not as great with a 20, 25 car pack.

Yeah, they're that too, but it was still pretty bad because when they shuffled Eric Jones, he went to like 25th place. Yeah. That's pretty far back. That sucks. Yeah. And like one thing that I liked is whenever they did get some age on the tires, the guys would, like it would open up when, like, lanes open up that weren't normally there, be if guys handled good. like Kyle able to drive down to the inside.

Like that lane normally wouldn't be there. Obviously, Joey got tight or whatever. I mean, you can see flames coming out of the pipes and stuff from lifting. When they're lifting on exit, that creates opportunities. Oh, yeah, that's what you want. That's what I want. But to me, it was a little bit better because of the handling. Yep.

But I still saw a lot of gridlock. And if you wanted to go, like, if you were 16th in line, like you couldn't go. I liked that the first stage didn't need fuel safety. And maybe that's part of the answer going forward for NASCAR at Talladega, some of these other tracks, right, is to say, hey, that first stage, you're not going to have to pit for fuel, right? We're just going to make it short enough to where you don't have to worry about it. Then, you know, the rest, the race of the race may not have those parameters or those, you know,

that opportunity. The only way you could probably do that for the rest of the race was to be able to add a fourth stage, which some people have talked about, like at Charlotte to 600, we have four stages. We do, yeah. So, you know, if we were to struggle going forward and continue to have like boring ass fuel-saving style racing at Daytona Talladega, the idea would be, one of the ideas on the table I assume, would be to add the fourth stage so that every stage is not a fuel mileage situation. I like that for stage one. That guarantees me as a fan that I shouldn't see my driver and all the drivers riding around half throttle because they can get the end of the stage.

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that, why is everybody so wanting to blame somebody for this? It's just a, it's plate racing. It happens. That's fine. That's your opinion, but that's when there's a wreck, there's always who's to blame for it. Like people, I mean, just a... Nope. This feels different. I've been around this a long time. And when the big one happens

it just happens. It just it happens. Well, I think there's also a little debate because you had Denny Blame and Bubba and then... Well, that didn't happen until he got home. But like, as soon as this wreck happened, like there's been this sort of conversation that started immediately like

whose fault was it we got to find somebody we got to settle this yeah well I don't I mean if you want to go back even to exit of turn four the wreck starts when Joey gets up off the bottom and leaves the lane for Kyle that they get four wide when you get four wide the room for air

is way less and when a car moves a little bit like Bubba gets a I mean not even a big bump from the five he moves what a foot and a half to the left and he's hooked so but the wreck really starts I just don't No, we need, it's just racing. Yeah, I don't know that we need to be so...

Blaming. Yeah, it's like this insistent... You do you not see that? Yeah, it's like cut through it, man. It's like somebody has to be blamed. You know, it's like as we're going through time, right, as we're evolving, like we're having to be more... There's this insistence to like...

Yeah. That's, you know, this was his fault or this was this person's fault. on everything. And like, this kind of right here is just what might happen today. They could, yeah. When you go to Dayton or Talladega. And in the past, when there's been big wrecks like this,

yes, there'll be a quick, you know, well, I could see what happened there. That guy, you know, that guy hit this guy and that guy wrecked that guy. He moved this way and it's his, you know, there's a person at fault for sure. but it's like this this has been like this was like a two-day conversation that Denny had to finally settle.

Kind of similar to like when Ernie Irving was catching hell back in the day and I mean it was that was like a eight, 10 months, maybe a year long simmering sort of debate or you know and eventually he had to stand up in the driver's meeting and tell all the drivers guys

I'm sorry and I'll be safe. You know. Really? Yes. Wow. He did. Like willingly or they ask him to do it? I think it was like, hey, it's in your best interest to probably address the crowd here,

the next opportunity, because all these guys don't trust you. And he was... Did he wreck anyone that race? No. But there was a, you know, they had a wreck at Daytona going down the back straightaway. He clipped Bill Elliott or somebody and destroyed the front of the field. It happened again at Talladega. And so every, you know, Rusty,

Dad, I don't know, you know, there's a bunch of guys that kind of were like, look, man, you got to clean this shit up. What's the deal? Like, every time we go to one of these tracks, we're worried about your ass wrecking the field. And so he kind of had to say, yep, you're right. Let me get up here in front of everybody, the driver's meeting. This was back when the driver's meeting was literally just the drivers. And he gets up and he goes, hey, I f***ed up, guys.

I know y'all are worried. I know it looks terrible. I want to fix this. I want y'all to feel comfortable racing me. I'm going to work hard to not not create more problems. I want y'all to know that I'm, you know, understanding what's going on. I had, you know, and that was, I don't remember too many instances where it was like so

electric, you know, in terms of like, who the f*** did that? Let's, let's, you know, we got to get to the bottom of this, you know. Yeah, social media is bigger now than it's ever been. I know. But this is a good. I guess I'm just saying, this is a good thing, though. You think it's a good thing? Yes.

Wait, so you'd rather fan. not freak out on social. I think that there is a good hour long window, but the race is going to continue, right? The race is going to continue. Let's get back, let's go on and watch the rest of the race.

Yeah, but then you have shows that like that's how this works. I suppose, yeah. We just blame Freddie and be done with it. I've watched the wreck over and over and I still don't know who's at fault. Freddie. Freddie, yeah.

Freddie probably cleared. What did everybody determine? Because there's some people saying that Kyle Larson hit the 23. Do we need a poll? And then, yeah, but it's, looks like, you know, the 23 and who, the eight, you know, sandwich between the 22, like, should, should have Joe backed out? Like, what? Who's, who's, I know Denny said Bubba was at fault.

How does he discern? I mean, what was his, what was his reasoning behind Bubba? The Bubba, because Bubba didn't know his three wide, he comes down. I think that's one that changed the lanes, a move lanes a little bit, so, yeah, I think we we need a Jeff Gluck wreck pole. Yeah. That'll solve it. That'll be the answer. that we all need to sleep. Kyle does love pushing people, though. Which one? Larson.

Look, Kyle Larson's just trying to change his fate at the, he's just changing his, he's, I think, I feel like Kyle Larson is in this sort of state of, like, I'm going to, I'm going to just keep changing my approach to this shit until I finally start getting results. Because he's, he had a good, right? I mean, he hates, he's hated racing at Daytona, Tala Lega, doesn't like doing it. but he's like, you know what? I'm going to figure this out, right? So I've been a guy that's kind of tried to stay out of trouble.

I've been a guy that's kind of, I tried this, I tried this, I tried this, I tried this, I tread this. Nothing's working. So, I'm going to be aggressive. I don't think he's a very good pusher, especially not Taledega. So is that on him or do drivers need to adjust if they're in front of Kyle? What do you mean? Adjust. You said he's not a good pusher, and so he, it's like, I was,

making a joke because he backed off us at Talladega for the win last year. But I'm saying with his style, it seems to be kind of some people are getting a little, their feathers ruffled. Like is that on them to just, listen, that's Kyle's racing? No, I don't. Do you have any issues with how he's pushing or anything? Yeah. I mean, I don't have an issue with it, but. You do?

I do. You don't? I mean, he's just trying to make moves that he thinks he needs to make. Yeah, I mean, I feel like he's gotten more aggressive. Well, he was getting aggressive in this race, because there was other, you know, he was, cars that were up there, he didn't need up there, so he's going to be a little bit more

aggressive. He didn't need up there. Like the 43, they didn't need the 43 in front of Kyle. Why? Because it's 43 wins the race, if 48's out. 60 wins the race. He's saying that he was aggressive to the cars that weren't going to help out Hendrick. Yeah, I mean, I think he drove the 43 down into the corner deeper than what he should have to try to shuffle

him up a little bit. I do. But I mean, why? I mean, that's a pass. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I, look, I, if he was, it's kind of one of them situations. If he's driving my car, I like it. Yeah, for sure. But, you know, I've been on the wrong, I've been on the wrong in a couple of them things. I agree.

I agree. Kyle this year. He ran through, he ran over the seven getting into turn one at Bristol to pass him for the lead. He didn't have to do that. Just could have, he was going to pass him. And then, um, yeah, rectus at Indy. Indy.

Just running hard. Indie was the big one. Yeah. It just, just bust his ass there. Yeah. But, um, I feel. like that he's just kind of like, you know, fucking, I'm racing. I'm going for it.

I don't have a problem going for it. Yeah. And I think that he's like, Dayton and Tall DeKeges is kind of like, you know what? Nothing's working. What I've been trying, hadn't been getting me results, some we'll try this route. Yeah. Yeah.

Why not, right? I suppose. The playoff standings is all sorted out going into the round of 16. Real quick, I got a question about the end of the race. So, you know, I always like the end of the race is when they finished like they did, and we don't have to have the big wreck at the end. Perfect, yeah. Like, to me, that's a great,

I do agree that that was a great ending to a super speedway race with these guys putting on the show that they did. And we had a couple solo spins, no contacts or anything, but like we didn't have to have that, which I thought was really cool. That's credit to all these drivers doing that too.

I'm shocked considering that the amount of drivers that needed a win. Yeah. It was a good race at the end. It was a good race at the end. Yeah, it was awesome. Some breaking news just came across the wire. What happened?

Breaking news. i racing is announcing today and we'll have announced today that their new indycar game is in development oh yeah so indy car this is a very drama field uh sort of process over the last couple years oh that's right yeah indy car was had an indy car had an indy car had an agreement with i racing there was the indy 500 all these great events the car itself on the service and then they went and signed with another programmer and we exclusively that deal never they never made a game that deal ended up going away not happening indicaar and i racing come back together back in back in the more video games that we have i think the better for racing as a

indicaar is back on i'm on i racing but but indic car and i racing have announced that they will make a console game oh like a stander standalone IndyCar console. That's cool. Game. You know what that reminds me of? Like the mid-90s, that Indycar game that was out.

Remember that? Indycar 2. Indycar and Indicar 2. Yeah, they were good. Yeah, they were fun. Yeah. Anyways, back to the round of 16. Basically,

let's look at the back half. So you know, you got Larson, Byron, Hamlin, Blaney, Bell up front, and SVG, Chase, Elliot, Briscoe, Bubba, and Cendrick. Bub is at plus two Cendrick also at plus two Chastain Lugano

plus one Barry Redick minus one Dylan minus two Bowman minus five who's going to who's going to get out of the round of 16 is Darlington Gateway in Bristol

I do not believe that SVG man it's going to be tight He's got 16 points. Yeah. Right? To sort of cushion the blow.

He's got a... He has been running better at the ovals. But man, if I just... This will be tough. I like the guy. SVG's awesome. I just have a hard time seeing him escape the round of 16. T.J.

Who you... Pick one driver that you think does not advance. I do not think Man Pick one come on We gotta go We're picking four drivers here I will take

You got to hurt their feelings Come on I gotta take Today before the race They're big boys They can take it TJ Come on I'll take Austin Dylan

Dylan All right Just not enough consistency yet To keep racking the points up I Yeah All right I'll go Dylan as well

I have a question about SVG. He finished 20th at Darlington last. I know. Is that good enough for the first race? Yes. Yes. He can make the round of 12 with a 20th place

finished at Darlington. Of course. You know, it's going to depend on what he does at Bristol and Gateway. I think he's actually decent at short tracks. I think he's going to run okay at Bristol. That's not a scare for me. There's a possible. There is,

there is a legitimate opportunity for him to run okay top 20 top 15 at Bristol honestly man I feel like if you can top 20 it in this round somebody's going to fuck up somebody's going to break yeah one of these guys is going to be you got a chance if you can top 20 it he's going to be right

SVGs I don't think SVG will make it because they're just looking it's looking I'm looking at the other competition it's not a knock on SVG but when he doesn't make it, it'll be by the slimest of margins, right? You think Lugano is plus one, like a three-time champion that he's got some really talented drivers?

Yeah. So, I mean, it's not a knock on SVG, but I think he barely misses it. I just feel like he's just going to just barely miss it. But it'll be dramatic to watch. TJ, who's your second driver? My second driver is probably going to be Bubba. Okay, Bubba.

Man, I don't know. it's so hard because dude I mean there's 10 drivers here that are all over the top of each other so right now I've got SVG Dylan you've got Dylan Bubba

all right I'm gonna pick my third man as much as I love the guy I feel like that Josh Josh oh my God he was on my list too yeah just not quite there yet what I want him to prove me wrong

what do you think I'm gonna fucking the people I'm just what I all right If Josh makes it... I mean, I would pick him too. I'm not saying, but I'm just... Yeah.

It's your boy. He is, my buddy. I want him to prove me wrong. Go prove me wrong, Josh Berry. But I'm putting him on my list. Yeah, he was on mine too. It's just... The field's just too tight.

They're all over top of each other. To me, it's Bubba or Cindrick. Whoever has the worst lock of them too. You know, I feel like they're going to be... All right. I've got my four. So go ahead. Dylan, Bubba, who else?

SVG is on my list. And I also have Josh. All right. So I've got it down here. TJ has Dylan, Bubba, SVG, Barry. So you think Cendrick makes it? It's just between him and... It's between him and Bubba, to me.

I honestly feel like Cendrick and Josh are the same. Very similar. Very similar. One of them is not making it. Yeah. Yeah. You're probably right. Frick.

And it's interesting is they're both same cars. To me, yeah. I still think Cendrick is a little more

seasoned. I know you got to experience and stuff, but maybe Josh, Josh run third at Darlington once. He did. That was the fall. I think he can

top. I think he was 12th or something at Bristol earlier this year. Gateway's a little bit of a short track. It could be a place where he shines.

I'm taking Barry out. of my list. I'm going to be a very. I'm going to keep Cendrick in. I'm going to, I can make a case for Barry. So I'll, I'll pull him out.

He's going into the round of 12. What do you think about Ross in this first round? I'm struggling with Ross, man. They have had a 15, 19, 10, 11, 39, 33, 23, 24. Like, he's,

all right, I'm justing. Chesting. All right. So mine are SVG, Dillon, Cendrick Chastain. I'm switching my list. You ready? Yep.

I'm going, Dylan, Barry, SVG, Chastain. Oh, look at me. He just convinced him. All right. So, you want me to go through it again? I mean, I could probably come up with another variation. Is this your final answer?

TJ's final answer. Dylan, SVG, Barry Chastain. I have SVG Dillon Cendrick Chastain. So two above will not make it. Yeah. All right, we'll see. everybody everybody should respond to Dirtymoe Media

tag us on Twitter with your four Do you want to make a championship pick Or we just can wait till the next And then we'll do elimination again There's so much racing left I don't I'm gonna go with my guy Byron I feel like it's his year

Yeah I don't know I'd probably change my mind after the first round The thing with him is it just You don't see them like Stepping on their own foot and doing something wrong They're very consistent. Yeah.

Yeah, I think Byron might pull it off. That's my pick. Blaney's pretty solid. I was going to say, does Penske win again? Yeah. I mean, we end the year with arguably all Blaney's best tracks. You're right. So how do you go against that?

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Let's check out what Jeff's room looks like. Boy, look at there. Man, yeah, that's pretty. Dude. That's an old garage. Look at the roof. Great, great. So look at the Skull Bandit uniform.

I think I saw that on eBay. There's another old uniform. I think it might be. Look at how nice the floor is. It might be a Buddy Baker, possibly. I can't remember. It looks like a Publix. This is a great room.

It's a little short for Buddy. That's a Richard Petty uniform. It is. That's a Richard Petty Ponyack Hood. This dude has. some cool. Yeah. Look at that Daytona flag.

Yeah. I was going to say, I wonder what that's from. Yeah. I love the building, man. Look at the floor and the ceiling. The floor is nice, new and sealed. Look at the ceiling.

A little man cave. Yeah, it's awesome. Hell yeah. What a great room. Diamond Rio hood. Some helmets. Got a helmet case. Calum, Little Caesar's hood.

Jackaroo. I love the sheet metal. Yeah. There's a Winston Pitboard. There's a number 78 door. That might be. Jackaroo. Parker.

Hank Parker Jr. Maybe. I think he drove for them at one point. A lot of helmets he's got going on in there. Well, Jeff Mendenhall. Awesome video. Hell of a job, brother, sending all this stuff in. Thanks for showing us all the cool things you have.

What a great collection. Some real vintage stuff inside this little garage you got there. And I know it took a lot of time to get all that stuff and you've got to be very proud of it. So thank you there, man. And as you see also on the table here, we have all 16 of the playoff drivers. As they get eliminated, we're going to throw their car off into the floor. Just chuck it.

Big thanks to Lionel, as long as the driver is still alive, they won't get thrown into the floor. And one of them will win the championship. Who's it going to be? All right, so we got Ryan Blaney here calling in the winner from this past weekend at Daytona. Ryan, I am usually. seeing you in the beautiful confines of the Penske operation, but this does not look like that. Where are you? I'm at, let's show you my setup here.

We are in O'Clair, Wisconsin, at Menard's ShareBuilders today. It's a great event that Menards does every year. We come up to it. It's where they meet a lot of the partners that are on the hood of our car, partners that want to get in their stores. It's a big expo event, and it's always fun. a lot of people. I had the opportunity for a short period of time to work with Menards. Obviously, they were with DEI forever, but recently with Brandon Jones and got to kind

of know a little bit about that business, man, pretty cool partner to be working with and a great-looking race car. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, right. Yeah, worked out well. I know it wasn't in the Menards car, but still it was good. But no, I mean, like you said, I mean, they're unbelievable people.

It's been a lot of fun to work with them since 2018. and, you know, John is an amazing human being. And, you know, to get to know Paul and race against him a little bit, and they're just overall good people and just racers. They just love racing. And it's definitely a dream partner to be with. And I couldn't thank them more for what they've always done, you know, through my career. Man, pretty incredible drive the last couple of laps at Daytona.

Watched a clip on social media of your spotter and you working together to get that car to where you can put yourself in position to win. When you try to go back and kind of relive it for the media or what have you, how easy or difficult is it for you to recount every specific thing that happened in the final two laps? I can recount everything in those final two laps, I'd say. Like, for sure, I think it's, you know, but I like seeing it, right? We have our view of it, right? You're sitting in there and you can just kind of see what's around you, right?

from your mirror out front, all that stuff. But it's always fun. Even though I remember everything that happened, I always enjoy watching it from the broadcast view, like the bird's eye, and then you get a whole new perspective of it. But yeah, I can remember everything of kind of how the whole last two laps came to be.

And, you know, the moves that myself and Cole made that were able to kind of shoot us up through there. So I feel like I always can recall those big moments fairly well. What were the two or maybe one or two things that absolutely were key to creating the run and energy that your car needed? Yeah, so before the last restart, I was behind Cole and we chose the top. And I think we were like, key was 12th and I was 14th or something or maybe 10th and 12th. But I told Timmy my spotter to go talk to Cole's guy and like, hey, you know, if Cole wants to jump top three here, like I'll commit to them. because I felt like if we had two of us go,

we were going to drag more guys up there and the top lane would be able to go. And you want to be leading the top lane charge, right? You don't want to be third or fourth in line. So I was really just kind of waiting on him to go. There was a couple opportunities I thought we could have gone earlier than what we did. But I'd say the big moment was when they split priests on the front stretch. It kind of right in the trial there, we all moved to the top and then they kind of snake back down to the bottom.

And as the cars in front of us snaked back down to the middle, Cole and I got connected and we went to the top into one and had a big run there. And then I kind of laid back pretty good and wanted to be able to get to them right as we exited to and connect. And we were hauling butt down the back straightway coming to the white and got them, you know, even with the lead. So I'd say the big moment is when they split, priest, it really allowed us to just carry a big run to the top into one.

That was really what set us up to make a run at it and have a chance. I remember when the next-gen car went to Daytona for the first test, and I got the chance to drive Chase Elliott's car, and we did a little bit of drafting and pushing, and they were so uncomfortable a couple years ago. You guys look like y'all can now be super aggressive. I'm sure there's still some moments where it doesn't feel great. but what does it feel like? Tell me, I guess, what it's like to be pushed.

Is it comfortable? Are you driving a forklift at that point? Are you at the mercy to the car behind you and how he's steering you? What's going on? Yeah, I definitely say, I don't really think the cars have gotten a lot more comfortable. I think the drivers have just gotten used to it. And they've understood how to kind of just be prepared. You know, it's way more uncomfortable than what this previous generation of car was like.

just the rear bumper is number one are kind of round so it's really important to line up square and you have to be the rear car has so much responsibility now like the pusher has so much responsibility for the guy in front of him

that he's pushing than ever before and I've always tried to account for that like you know I've always tried to time my times I get to people's bumper correctly like and kind of drag break before I get there to kind of get that connection easy and make sure I'm square and we can go forward.

A lot of times I see guys just kind of run up there and just, you know, pound guys in the bumper and are kind of moving all around and that guy in front got his hands full. You know, so they're definitely uncomfortable and it's really put a huge emphasis on how you get there and then, you know, you got to trust that guy behind you, you know, to push you. And if I'm getting pushed, like, I have to be, you know, you're always looking in your mirror and your camera in those situations. And like, if I'm going to get pushed, I really am, I'm looking at the closing rate. And Timmy's telling me, you know, hey, halfback, two feet off, one foot off. And when they get to like two feet off, like, I have to look straight knowing the push is coming and like make sure my hands are where they need to be and like kind of be prepared for it.

So it's definitely delicate. Yeah, I was amazed at how uncomfortable it was when I was driving the cars years ago, but I assume there had been some gains, but I know it doesn't look all that comfortable sometimes. And you can tell when you're trying to be smart about how you do connect and how do you do want to create that energy and get that push down the back straightaway, as opposed to ramming the guy. Sometimes you don't go anywhere. But you have thrown yourself into the conversation as one of the best, if not the best,

at the type of racing we do at Daytona and Talladega. I still call it restrictive plate racing, but the style of racing there is unique, and it takes a certain approach and a certain mentality over the course of the last several decades. We always saw the same people run up front, you know, and typically the same people have chances at winning those races, and we see you there in this, you know,

in the old car, in this car. we see you up front at Talladega at Daytona often. You know, is it, do you feel like that, you know, you've developed an appreciation and enjoyment for this style of racing? You're obviously very good at it and you're willing to do the things necessary and take the risks necessary at the end of these races because it's extremely dangerous racing. You know, when things go wrong, the hits are horrendous as you've experienced. You know, so how do you compartmentalize, I guess, that danger and the risk that you know is there with the reward if you go and do everything right at these races. A lot of guys, even back in the 90s, 80s, they hated, you know, Mark Martin, I don't like those races. I don't like going there.

I have to do it, but I don't love it. Yeah. What's your approach? Yeah. I think what's kind of set me at ease at those places is, you know, years ago, I just finally put my mind of, hey, these Speedway races at Daytona, Tauadega, like, it is what it is. And you're going to have days that go terribly wrong. You know, you're going to get caught up in a mess that you had nothing to do with. And that's just part of it. And like, just don't think about that. Don't let it bother you. If it happens, it happens. And that's just, you know, a crappy day. And you move on and try to go again the next time. but I do enjoy it. I try to go there enjoying it and enjoying the different style of racing that it is. Like it's a completely different style of racing than any other track, mile and a half or short track, road course, whatever.

Like, it's a whole different mentality going in there. So I've just kind of become at peace with it. Like, I've had massive hits of these places and that never worries me. You know, in that regard, it just, you know, happens sometimes. and it's just luck of the draw. But I've just gone into enjoying them as much as I can. Like you said, you got guys that go in there and they'll openly talk about, I hate it.

I hate it. And it's like, well, you're kind of beating yourself before you get there. Like, that's not a great mentality to have at any place. So even though maybe it's not my favorite type, I'm going to go and try my best and enjoy it the most I can. And I've tried to learn to just be like super patient at those places and try not to get, it's easy to get caught into the trap of like taking every run go now go now like i try to just let things develop um in a natural way and take advantage of like always being on the lookout for an opportunity like is they're going to what's the opportunity for me to do this and um just like sitting

back and being patient i was able to learn from a lot of great guys when i first started like like brad you know Joey, Denny Hamlin, you, like, I watched how you guys kind of approached those speedways, and I tried to soak all that in when I was younger. And this new car is different, so you kind of had to relearn some stuff. But, yeah, it's just I try to have a decent time going into these things and enjoy the challenge and the fight and not let it bother me if you get, you know, if it wasn't your day. But I just always have tried to not be like hating the place going there, because I think you're already down before you even get out there if you have that.

mentality. Yeah, it's sound like me in Sonoma for about 15 years. Yeah. Yeah. I got a question for you, Ryan, like thinking about that. You said being patient waiting for the runs. Were you surprised when you saw Cole dive to the bottom in front of you? Because, I mean, I felt like his path to victory was you squared up with him. Yeah. You know, I saw what was going to happen down the backstretch in the middle of one and two. You can see it coming for sure. Yeah, like, you know, I can see the seven is clear of both of us, like through the center of one and two. He's pushed out, you know, by a few car lengths. Not good. Cole and I, like I did the same. Like, I kind of laid back to Daniel to get to Cole as soon as we got off of two. And I know the seven's going to probably go up there and block it. And I, you know, he had to do that. Like, if he didn't, Cole and I were going to blow by him at a massive rate of speed. And, you know, if you're coal, what are you going to do jam on the brakes and or,

run through the seven. Like he kind of had to, I think, make a move because the closing rate was massive and the seven protected it. And so I don't, I don't blame either of them for doing what they did. You know, like I said, both of them had to win the race. I knew what both of them were racing for. So yeah, I don't, I don't really think Cole made the wrong move. I think he just was forced to have to take the run where he did. And it just didn't quite, you know, accumulate for him like he thought. And it opened the door for me to just kind of chill in that top lane and get help. But yeah, I could see a big block was going to come.

And I think, you know, Cole had to, had to. I don't think he wanted to leave my bumper, but he kind of had to in that situation to try to get on the race. When somebody gets pushed out, it turns into a bad spot for them most of the time late in a race. It does. It does. Well, man, we appreciate your time. I know you got a busy day. And thanks for carving a little bit of time out for us to talk to us today.

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I have a question for Andrew goes with the official ones. How are you with Terry McLaur news? You feeling better? Oh my gosh. Made my day. So I was at the late model shop getting my car set up for Florence this weekend and saw all that text come across

and I mean it was a massive weight lifted off my chest. I was just like, all right, time to get to work. getting emotional thinking about it. Yeah, Terry McLaren, who is our best receiver in Washington, wanted a new deal. He's got one year left on his contract. They finally come to some agreement, and he's locked in for the next four years.

It's a three-year deal, but he's got one left on the final year of his contract currently. You know how it is, you know, you've got a player that you really like. He's a great locker room guy, good attitude, good character, just solid kind of guy you need around a team. When your best player is the leader, that's good. He's productive. And so we need him. We need him to have an opportunity to run it back this year to get back to the

Jayden Daniels needs him bad. Yeah. So we'll see, man. Can't wait to see him on the field. Make him play. Well, that's good. Some good news to start Asch Jr. The YouTube chat is populating to some of our, you know,

biggest fans, Martha, Miami, Bev, comment and good morning, so it's good to see them. But this first question is from Joe on Twitter. Actually, he sent this in last week. How much influence does the team slash sponsor have when it comes to paint scheme design? Really? Who gets like... That's different.

I think that we, there's a, there is a story that Rick Hendrick was telling the other day. We were on a call with him. And when we were doing the negotiating for our partners, Pepsi and Mountain Dew, PepsiCo and Mountain Dew, they were like, Kelly's in the room with them. And they were like, all right, man, you know, we'll get on some car designs and da-da-da. And Kelly's like, well, Dale wants to be involved. Dale really wants to do the whole car. And they were like, oh, no, no, we're going to do this and that and other.

And she's like, no, nope, Dale's going to do the car. and they were like and Rick always Rick says in the boardroom when Kelly is done negotiating like she'll she takes her she'll have her book open her notes you know and when she's like the final answer is this she takes the book and shuts it like that

and so like middle of that meeting they're like yeah you know we're going to design a car we already have some ideas and da da and she's like nope Dale Jr. is going to design the car. And they were like, done deal. And Rick said, Rick's at the other side of the table. And he's like, y'all, I think we need to take a break. And he goes out into the hallway with Kelly. And he's like, Kelly, this is a big deal. It's a lot of parameters and money on the table and stuff like that. And Kelly's like, this is, this is what's going to happen. And so, yeah, I love telling that story.

It's more about really like the negotiator that Kelly is and just how, you know, she's, not, she's fearless. And, and, um, and so pretty fun to be in a room with her when she's trying to work something out with a, with a, with a partner or something like that. But if you're, you know, I have always kind of been interested in this. I love designing cars. I get, I get involved a little bit these days. I'm fortunate we have a really, really good design team upstairs, led by Ryan Williams. And we have, you know, he just, I don't ever have to really get involved in his work because he's just got such great ideas.

And every time I feel like I ever do anything to some of the things that he creates, I feel like I'm pulling him back, you know, or undoing some of the coolness. But it, so I've really gotten out of the design. aspect of some of the stuff we're doing and left it more to him. Some drivers that I know, like I've talked to them over the years in the 20, 25 years, I've raced, I've talked to drivers and they're like, oh, I don't care what the car looks like. And so I'm like, how could you not care what it looks like, right? You know?

And they're just like, I don't care what it looks like. I don't care. And I'm like, I want to drive the car harder and I'm more excited to drive the car when I think it looks cool. But there's some drivers that don't really care about that part, which is interesting. But most of the time, most of the time, it's the design team with the race. The race team has the design guys. They're going to put some things together.

They're going to send them with the sponsors. Sponsors are going to throw some ideas. The sponsors usually have bad ideas. Especially if they're new. They do. They just don't. You know, you know, what it's going to, they don't know what makes a, they see on paper. Oh, that's cool.

But it, right. Paper to racetrack, you lose a lot. Things get harder to see. A lot of times they'll put their decal or their name on the race car on the paper, you know, on the art design. And you're like, dude, that's going to disappear on the track. Like at it, like right now looking at it, yeah, that's cool. But when I put that car 75 feet away or from a. from a broad camera shot, you know, that's 150 feet away, you can't see it.

It disappears. And so you've got to kind of guide them, hold their hand a little bit, be like, man, you know, we got to allow us to have this and that and the other to let the car jump off the page so it's easy to spot in a pack. And it's kind of sometimes, you know, and it's fun. I love, one of my, one of the things I enjoy about social media is seeing all the creative from either real cars that teams are making or there's some creators out there that are just doing like, you know, prototypes.

Yeah. And it's like, man, there's some really cool ideas out there that'll never actually get to see the racetrack. And so it's kind of. A lot of them run eye racing with that trading paints. You can see a lot of cool stuff on there. This next question is coming from Christian. Do you still wish drivers could talk to each other via?

radio on the track. Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Oh, yeah. I mean, we wouldn't be able to keep up with the amount of entertaining that we could put on the broadcast if the drivers were talking back and forth, right? I can't even imagine what that would be like.

Oh, man, it would just be chaos. But, like, it would be like, where do you, where do you turn? There'll be so many conversations happening, especially when something bad goes down, like the big wreck at Daytona on the front stretch. You'd be like, well, we got to take 30 minutes sifting through all of the conversations. conversation here to give it to the fans and say, oh man, listen to what this guy said. Oh, well, this guy said this guy said this. Does you imagine like when when Eric Jones got shuffled out, he'd flip over to. Oh, hell yeah. Right. Yeah. Would that mess the driver up though?

Because now they can't hear their crew chief. It would be great. Oh, man. Well, they could make the, they would be able to make the, and they've done this in the past, they would make the crew chief be the overriding dump. So anytime the Creek chief keyed up and talked or the spotter, it would override anything. And I know they can do that. But I used to have a harness in my car. When we went to Daytona test,

I had a harness in my car that would hook up to music. And so I could listen to music sitting on pit road because we'd sit on pit road in line, forever. Waiting to go out single file runs. You'd pull out there. There'd be 20 damn cars. And I mean, it's about five minutes per car

because they're waiting on a completely clear race track to get no obstruction, right? And nobody jumped the line either. It was like, that's where you were lined up. That's where you just waited for your turn. It was a long time. And you'd be in that line on pit road for 45 minutes. So I'd sit there and listen to music.

But if Tony Jr. had to say something or when I pull out on the track and they'd start talking to override the music. I'm Team Chaos, so let's bring it back. Yeah. I think it'd be cool if you could jump over on someone else's radio and talk. Exactly.

There'd be so much. High five them, right? They win the race. Everybody's jumping on their radio. It'd be like just everybody talking over top of each other. You know, congratulating that driver if they were very popular. Could you imagine host of ours radio? Oh, my gosh.

He wouldn't hear a single word from anybody else. It'd make restarts more exciting. I mean, what if you were racing somebody and the second place is catching first place? flips over to his radio. He's like, oh, I'm inside him. Like, diving. Yeah. Oh, my God.

you could switch over to the guy behind you on restarts and be like, get in the gas now. You know? Oh, man, the restart. You're right. You could call your own restarts. There's so, there's good and bad to this. It's be entertaining, though. Let's go to the next question.

This is actually from our good friend NASCAR Kaz Carcasm on Twitter. Did you see what he bought at Daytona? No, no. So he bought, he said, I found this picture at the Daytona 2000 store from this past weekend. Flipin the bird. Yes. So can I show this on camera? I actually don't know if I.

I can show the You can blur out there. I'm cutting off the actual bird, but that's the... Yeah. So what is there? Yeah, he wants to know what it is. So I remember exactly where this was.

We were at DEI. If you ever been to the shop, Dillen Hart Incorporated, we were in that middle space where all the cars are parked. If you go there now and kind of look through the glass, you'll see my Xfinity car,

mine and dad's Japan race race cars that we race each other you'll see all these cars sitting there we were in that space shooting for

Racer Magazine and that picture is in the magazine they used that picture inside that episode or that edition of Racer Magazine

and we were behind the camera is Jade Gers and a couple other people and I was sitting there between shots talking to them

we're bull-s and I They said something, then I was like, you know, F you, and I flipped the bird.

Well, the guy grabbed the, you know, grabbed the shot. The guy got a picture of it. And I was, and I was, I never thought

that they were going to use it. And I was like, oh no, you know, you got me, got me red-handed flipping the bird. Ha, ha, ha.

And sure enough, they put it out in the magazine. And I was like, damn. I was like, that might be a problem. But, yeah,

it never, never got Bud didn't care about stuff like that. Budweiser they were like man you know just live

live your life have fun and you know other like if I was Eminem's or you know I say Eminem's because I was friends

with Elliot Sadler and me and him would talk about the contrast between like how I just kind of got to raise hell drink beer

and you know it's the best be a goofball and he had to kind of like be careful, right? And be smart. But I, yeah, I don't know how that would have been handled if it were a different, if I had a different partner. It was a good mix.

Yeah. So you're racing this weekend, right? Lawrence. Qualifying. 20 seconds? 20 seconds. We will not be surprised. Penciled in.

This next question is coming from Chase. He wants to know how much time are you actually going to spend playing the new Hell Let Loose game. Oh, yeah. Are you going to see Amy and the kids? Yeah, that's funny. Vietnam. Yeah, Hell Let Loose is the first person shooter that we've been messing around with for the last five years or so, and they got a Vietnam version coming out soon.

I don't know when it comes out. But, yeah, it looks fun. I'm a gamer, man. I love playing video games. But it's just harder and harder to find the time to, like, fit it into the day. We'll teach you. We'll give you two weeks

to get NCAA in, so you're good there. Yeah, you'll be up time. Yeah. I'm looking forward to this game. Between I racing, the new console game coming out,

college football, hell let loose, Vietnam. Me, I have about probably four nights a week where I've got it about an hour after the kids go to bed

from like 930 to 10.30. And so, yeah, trying to, you get in, you walk into the room Like all of it's in one room. I can play all the games in one room.

And you walk in there and you're like, if you play one, you're not playing the others. Right? You're like, can't decide. Wish I could do it all. Symerich's like, play with me. Yeah. How did, uh, did Amy see that tweet that you put out?

No, she's not on Twitter. Oh, so that's, that's probably good. She gets on Twitter like once every five years for like 10 minutes. Then leaves. And leaves. It's kind of nice because I can say whatever I want. What if she has a burner? She would tell me.

Yeah, you would know. I would know about it in the kitchen in the morning as we're getting breakfast. I would hear about it. I can see it now tomorrow. Why'd you change your avatar to this? Yeah, right. I told her a little bit about some of the stuff I was posting. Do you ever have her check your tweets, be like, hey, do you think this is good?

Oh, yeah. I'm mainly for proofreading because I'll look at it and I'll be like I'm sure there's something wrong here I just can't see it Yeah And I'm like can you read this Will you ever ask?

Is it understandable? Will you say like Is this funny? Like do you think this is good? Well she shoot you down? She's pretty straight shooter when it comes to that Yeah no 100% More often than not she said it's not funny

Oh wow She's like Amy is Amy's like You know all the shit you say you think it's funny Like other people aren't going to read this Right Oh, hilarious. You love it.

I'm like, well, that's kind of good enough, right? Yes. I'm just trying to, you know, I'm just trying to entertain myself when it's all said done. I'm not on Twitter to make everyone else have a good time. It's for me, right? I feel like that happens in person a lot, too. Like, there's inside jokes. And if you happen to like my tweet, great.

But, I mean, really, my pure enjoyment. Yes. I definitely think it happens in, like, general, too, hanging out. Yeah. She does not find some humor in some things that are. Boy, you better watch out. Yeah, you might. Tread on damn water.

Yeah. That is hilarious. All right. Travis is giving me the one to go. Let's see. This one's from Dom. Speaking of video games, the NASCAR 25. Is it Dominique Corelli?

No, I don't like so. I can know where this is going. It's not. When are we going to get this league started, DJ? He literally just joined two days ago. He literally just joined two days ago. Yeah. No, this is about NASCAR 25.

The cover came out. What's your reaction to? Great. William Byron, Blaney, and Bell, the killer bees on the cover. I think it's awesome. Yeah, yeah. I love it. I like having more than one driver.

I mean, I always, I thought the EA sports ones were really cool from back in the day. It's cool to still see some of those pop up on social media from time to time. It was always cool to be the guy that was selected. That was really cool. So, you know, it was our sort of madden cover moment as a driver back in the day. We certainly did. I think that was neat. But I think after all these years coming back and creating this console game and irasing and this console game,

this is going to be a journey, right, of annual releases and developments. And so to start out of the gate, I think it's good to have a group on there. And I would kind of be cool. It'd be cool to kind of get back, though, to having like one singular racer, right? The champion. Yeah, the champion. Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah.

It's a perk. That's a great idea. Yeah. I agree. Yeah. Can you make that cover? Right. And I don't know.

We'll see how it goes. But I'm real happy with it. I'm excited for everybody to get this product in their hands in October and can't wait to get running. I like that champion idea. It could be something cool where like you already have the cover made for like next year and you show the champion when they win. It's like the good year car or something like that. I think that would be kind of a cool extra perk. That's right.

It'd be Joey Lugano every other year. track. All right, well, that's a good place to wrap up this hash junior. Thanks to Xfinity for always being a proud partner for this segment. Yeah, and racing in life, speed isn't optional as expected. As a driver and Xfinity Series team owner, I rely on things that perform under pressure. That's why I go with Xfinity Wi-Fi, fast-dependable internet, and one price locked in for five years, no contracts, no slowdowns, no nonsense, Xfinity Wi-Fi.

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We should add with Tampa Tims and Russell, the professor. Come on, Triv. I think that's added. If Tim's is okay with giving up a little real estate. It's not even on here. You just chose to read us to say. Tim's name. It says it right here.

It says with Tampa Tim's. Oh, he made this. I didn't make this. He made this banner. Tim's made this banner. I would not use that photo if I made that. Oh my.

That is a interesting photo. Yeah, it's not. It doesn't even look like you. It's actually terrible. I was like 19. Well, it is time for Dirty Modeo.

Man, where do we start? We've got college football. We got the NFL, everything right around the corner. Russell, you know what? You can take the

day off. We're not even going to talk NASCAR. That's unfortunate. I was going to say something nice about TJ too this week. Sure. I didn't crash, Brad. That's a good thing. Well, crash avoidance. Did you talk about that yet? No. Let's just get the bad news out of the way. Our parley did not hit. Our manufacturing parley didn't hit. Didn't come close. Golly. The triple B's a got to stop. Yeah. All right. Well, we're heading into Darlington this weekend.

We'll make some picks for our parlay. But first, what drivers should we be keeping an eye on there, Russell? I think Denny's the first one, five-time winner there, one earlier this year. He's the clear-cut favorite to me. And then you go to William Byron is another one. Then Reddick, I like as well. and then sometimes Kyle Larson, but he's, he's, you know. No Blaney?

I don't trust him. We have not named a Ford. Blaney struggles for me. He had his first top five there this year. So with an average finish of almost 90. I feel like he's had really good speed, though. He's had a lot of good speed. When were you going to say something nice about T.J?

I was going to say that he's my first, like, he could be my playoff spoiler. Like that would be what I would say is our best chance to have a playoff spoiler this week would be if TJ can keep Brad out of trouble. Well, I just, I looked at your, the data that you said, the rec avoidance positions. And I was like, Brad, we got to say in this spot to miss the wreck. So, yeah, we made it through. I thought that was going to be it. But I'll take the spoiler too, because that's a good approach.

Well, what about Joey Legano, Russ? Do you like him? It's playoff time. You got to start thinking about it. I know it's tough time. He's another one that's that's all over the place. Like he really hasn't, hasn't done well here. Like, his last top five here was 2002.

A whole three years ago. Well, I know, but it's, what have you done for me? Was that when he won? No, well, he won than 22, but that was the spring race. That was when he ran into Byron. Yeah. And then he wrecked Byron. Bup and run.

Yeah. Well, all right. We just won't pick a Ford in the manufacturer parlay. They are just terrible. Well, then that wouldn't be a manufacturer parley. Yes, it could. You could do two. Okay, sure.

Tims and T.J., anybody that you guys think are going to do good this weekend? I think Josh Barry could be secretly good, or quietly good, I guess. I mean, he's had success there. SVG? He's not on my surprise list. Eric Jones is always good here. He is good here. He can't mention Darlington without him.

And they've actually kind of had an uptick in performance as a company. They have, yeah. Legacy. What do you think, Russell? Would he be more of a top 10? Yeah, top 10 for sure. I like, I'm okay with Eric Jones as a top 10. Barry's the one where I struggle with.

He's got one good race here. The rest are 21. They're worse. And his last name starts with a B. We can't do that. We're avoiding that. What about Buster? Can't pick him because it's a B?

Nope. I like, I like Busher, though. I like Bisher. For a top 10? I like Bush for a top 10. He's been top 10 for the last five. at Darlington? Yeah, he's been pretty solid there.

Tim's, but will you get Bushier right now is plus $2,200 to win? Do you think you'll get positive money for top 10? I don't think so. He might be like a minus 135, which is a little pricey for a top 10 in my book. What do you think about Priest? Does Priest have surprised a lot of people this year at tracks where you wouldn't expect him? Does he show up here?

He was strong, he had a strong start in the spring, but finished 26. started on the front row, was third in the first stage, then fell late. Yeah. I missed the first Darlington race. Oh, you were not there? Well, yeah, because I was in Florence emergency room.

Oh, the emergency nose job? Yeah, that was what it was. Are you saying that's why you finished 33rd? Like, that's why Brad didn't. I forget. Somebody spun out or somebody did something in front of Brad and three and four, and there was nowhere to go or whatever. or something but he was his speeds were good so i'm looking forward to getting back there and

getting the race but did you just say that he would have avoided that if you were there that's what i'm wondering uh no probably not because it's starting the year the way our years went we i mean we hit everything so yeah probably not so it's probably just some i mean we need something else i did buy a um you know the little thing from major league the guys uh the one guy used to buy the batter Joe Boo. Yeah, I bought one. I'm going to put it in the truck see if we can get a win in his last

10. So when we talk about Darlington, Denny, Redick, Byron, those are three good names. I think Byron's going to have a great run in the playoffs. So I feel like I'd love for that to start at Darlington.

I think I'm going to pick him to win the championship, at least out of the gate. But who give me somebody you think might surprise us, Russell, that we may not consider Chastain. I mean, who can jump off the page here? You don't like anybody.

What about Chase Briscoe? You don't like anybody, but what about Chase Brisco? Won this race last year with SHR? There we go. The 19 teams always been pretty good here. I love it. Thank you. Briscoe.

Now you're excited? Yeah, I mean, that's, I, you gay, I mean, Deenie Byron Reddick are just so predictable. But this is, this is, this is, a predictable track. Like, this is, I know, and the thing is called

the predictor. So I'm fighting uphill here. Trying to make this compelling. What about Austin Dillon? Nah. Nothing. It's good for him,

but it's not good, like, against the field. Well, he probably averages like a 30th place to finish everywhere else. What about Kyle?

Kyle Busch. Like, I think this is, this is Austin Dillon's, like, fourth best track. That's the best I can give you for Dylan. Okay. I mean, Bowman's minus five in the playoffs right now. Does he have... No, this is like one of his worst tracks. Chase Elliott, it plus seven in the playoffs. Is he going to

be able to come out of here with some gains? He's going to finish. I mean, Darnington just sounds like it's a meat grinder for everybody but three or four guys. We're all done. We might not even race. I mean, really? Yeah. Where's Hosevar? Does Hosevar show back up? Not on the predictor, but he could. Tell me the predict. What is the, does the predictor have like a 10, top 10 or top 5? Give me some names. What does this thing look like?

Give us a top two tiers. Yeah, what's that? What's that thing? Is it look like that? It predicts the whole finish of the field. Okay. Give me the top 10. Let's hear it.

Denny, William, Elliot, Reddick, Larson's your top. Elliot is third? Yeah, because he's consistent. I just asked you about him and you literally said nothing. I said he was born to finish in the top 10, but he's boring. He's not going to win. He's going to finish in the top 10. You can't.

I'm not asking you to give me a character analysis. Tell me if he's going to run into top three. Fixed is briscoe. There's your briscoe. Then Bell, then Keselowski, the best non-playoff guy, Busher, and then this one will surprise you. Ty Gibbs. That doesn't surprise me.

He was good there last year. He's been faster. I'm surprised. All right, thank you. Elliot stands out to me as a guy where maybe you can, you know, you can make a little money. What about Reddick? No one's mentioned Reddick.

No. He hasn't done anything this year. Odds-wise, he's plus 700, and I don't like that for the speed he's not shown. I feel like he's in a void. Reddick. This is a great track for him. Like, you know, low-grip. High-speed, low-grip track?

So many times this year and he's not shown up. Something's off this year. Yeah. All right. Yeah I don't need it All right Look

I like I think I You don't have to tell me on this Because you probably won't But I'm going to go Brisco As my Toyota I'm going to go Elliot As my Chevy

I'm going to put Busher As my Ford Can I be the book this week Can I take your money? Look man If you got a better three Let me hear it

I don't know how you can go against Denny. All right, who else? What's got to be William Byron. You just said he's going to have a great playoff run. I'm trying to make some money. I can't make money off Denny and Byron. Okay. All right.

Give me the Ford in your three. I think this is where it's Bush or Kislauski or Joey. You have to pick one. Yeah, you've got to pick one, unfortunately. I'm going to let you pick one. I gave you some. No. Like you get to have some fun here.

You're not really going to bet this anyways. So like, let's go Blaney. It wasn't even in his top of three. I said Blaney in the beginning and he was like, nah, that's one of it. Doesn't run good here, isn't? He's the second favorite too. He was like number four on his list.

Yeah, this is listed earlier. You see. All right. Don't talk about my three. Yeah. You're not even by the predictor. I just said he doesn't run great here until the spring. Like the spring, he turned.

it around. So now he's just going to... It's got some momentum. Like, I think he's going to turn it on. Here we go. Anybody else want to do a parlay that's different? I like the Priscoe, Byron, Lugano combo. That's what I'm going to go with.

I'll do that, but I'm going to take the six instead of there because I feel like we're going to run good there. Yeah, I don't mind that. All right. Travis is... Travis is just not going to play. Can Denny finish first, second, and third? Denny.

Denny? What's Travis Predictor say, Danny? Larson Priest. Ooh, wow. Okay. Nice.

We've got five different parlays for people to choose from. Surely one of those is going to hit. Has to. So we don't look like

complete idiots. All right. We've got football around the corner and we can take a look get some bets to make, but I'll let Travis take the lead. Where you want to go with this, Travis? Hook him horns.

Yep. Where you want to go with this Travis? That's not nice. So one future bet that I put, Russ is going to like this, is for Penn State to have a rushing touchdown in every game this year. Man.

Plus 200. I think they're going to run the ball a lot, plus your quarterback runs. But for this week, the bet that I'm going to go with is in the Notre Dame Miami game, Jeremiah Love, over 79 and a half rushing. yards. Minus 114. He's fine.

I think he's going to finally be healthy. He wasn't healthy at the end of the last year. Yeah. I think they're going to lean on the run with the new quarterback. All right.

Anybody else? Tim's got to be anybody. Yeah, Texas is going to smash Ohio State. That was going to be mine. Dang, right. Maybe. Hook him, baby. Manny's coming out.

Dowing all over. Oh, yeah. What's the odds on that? Plus 100. They're an underdog, actually. It's not much of an hundred dogs Not much but They're going to Ohio State though

So All I'm doing they're talking now Do talking next week What? You can hear about it on Twitter Going to Oh we'll read about it on Twitter If they lose

Or win We'll know Though because I'll be at the game So I don't tweet when I'm at the games You just get on Nashville TV with a sad face Yeah And then they score and I'm happy All right

I'll probably just do a bunch of moneyline bets I'll look for like this bowling green over Lafayette I like that one Rutgers over Ohio I'll pack about five or six of those like East Carolina is going to lose the state UNC Charlotte App State

what you got Unc's real players aren't 99 true freshman Yeah right And their wide receivers don't block like left tackles either. You know, honestly, the odds are only minus 230 to app. So I would expect that had been bigger, so I'm actually kind of proud of that. But Charlotte could upset up by how it's the happening.

App state's pretty good. Maybe you can go call some plays. You know that's not happening. Be fun, though. But I'm going to pile a bunch of home runs into one parley and have a little fun, let it rip. I have not touched my balance since the NCAA men's tournament ended. I've really literally hardly bet once or twice on something I can't even remember. I'm going to find off a bunch of player props.

It's time to jump right back in there. It's back. It's back. Player props are my favorite. All right. Thank you, Russell. Thank you. Thank you.

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And also wherever you get your podcasts Action is detrimental Dettramental Dropped on Sunday Denny had some bad luck on Saturday. More bad luck. Was Denny sad? Probably just went fishing.

Was Denny melancholy? He was okay. He did not go fishing after the race. Didn't go fishing? Were you mad? Has he over his fishing bug? No, he's got the edge. I was out on the lake Sunday morning.

Thought I saw him speeding by on his bass pro shops tracker boat. There's a good chance. That man's addicted to fishing. I think Travis was more upset. He was more upset than Denny was. No. I saw you tweeting about it. Tweeting does not mean I'm upset.

What did you tweet? What did you tweet after the race? Well, the race sucked. I wonder if Denny has ever tried a topwater lure. Jitterbug? A spinner. Something like that. He would really enjoy it.

Door bumper clear dropped on Monday. They were joined by Jeff Gluck on Wednesday. Wednesday, my guest interview with Chase Briscoe will be out. I'm looking forward to talking to Chase. Also on Wednesday, Herman Schrader and Speed Street. Another episode of the glorious speech street with Connor Daly. On Friday, Dirty 30 comes out. Hey, so Dirty 30, we just released our first episode of Dirty 30 this past week. Second episode. I'm sorry. It's a new recap show. And we know we have a lot of shows, right? You don't have a time to listen to every single show maybe, but we're putting all of the highlights from those shows

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