The Dale Jr. Download - EP 600 – Can’t Have It Both Ways

Episode Date: February 4, 2025

The Clash at Bowman Gray is in the books, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. is in the studio for a new episode of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to unpack the action from the Madhouse and more:Bowman Gray brought out the madness in driversRace fans can’t have it both waysThere could have been more aggression in the main eventDoes Bowman Gray deserve another Cup race?Balancing attracting new fans while honoring the grassrootsDuring the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, Dale Jr. weighed in on questions regarding:The new Xfinity award for fastest lap of the raceRegrettable eBay purchasesGood bars to visit in Daytona BeachWorking with Will Ferrell on Talladega NightsPlus, Dirty Mo Dough makes some bets for the Super Bowl.Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call [phone] for 24/7 support in Massachusetts, or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Then you got what you wanted, I guess, in the main event, because it was, you know, the majority of the back half of the main event was nothing but just green flag laps and cars just kind of. I didn't want that either, though. Well, I mean, what the fuck do you want? I just think the last few laps, it was just like stop every time. You're picky. This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker. All right.

This ain't Burger King. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jeter download here, Dirty Air with my friend and co-hosts T.J. Major. How's it going, TJ? It's going good. Welcome. Yeah. How was your weekend? Entertaining. Awesome.

It was good. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Yeah. So we had the clash this past weekend. We're going to jump right into the reaction to overall what we thought about the Bowman Gray experience. I watched it on TV. I was on a trip working for a new partner. in Florida. And, but you were there in person and we probably had two different experiences, but I thought from my vantage point, man, the energy and the excitement, the atmosphere that you experienced firsthand came through in flying colors. I thought it was awesome.

Yeah, I've never been there before. So rolling in there Saturday was the first time, like even rolling up to the racetrack. and honestly it was fairly simple getting there. The path they had getting in and out for everybody seemed to work really well. But just rolling up there, you could feel like, man, there was cup haulers parked at this little racetrack. You know what I mean? Like you roll up there and you see the haulers and you start seeing some pit boxes and stuff. And it is a little stadium.

Like it's tiny for a stadium, but man, the atmosphere there and the people like, it's real. Like, you can kind of see it when you watch their Saturday night shows and stuff, but, man, these people are, it's full of race fans that they could not wait to see a race there. And I can see why they're so passionate about their drivers that race there locally. And it had that, it absolutely had that feel that we talked about of, you know, a couple of their guys, whether you liked them or hated them with Tim and Bert running too. like they were all, I think kind of they were all united pulling for boat, you know what I mean?

Like that was their guys racing against the big guys. And it was cool, man. The atmosphere just in such a, packed in such a tight little arena. And the racetrack itself is way, way better racing-wise than kind of what I was expecting to be with the safer barriers and everything in. It made for some handling, you know, handling issues. on throttle down on exits and stuff like that. And you can still get to a guy if you wanted to on entry,

which is going to happen in short tracks. But overall experience of walking in there was really good. So the, you know, heat races ran. And for the most part, you know, they were just kind of ho-hum. But it was good. The last chance race got really physical, got really goofy at times and wild. But to be expected.

Yeah, for sure. I didn't think any point, at any point in the weekend, did I see anything that I thought, man, that's embarrassing, or, God dang, man, that's unfortunate. You know, everything that happened on the track, even when the drivers were kind of, you know, being goofballs with each other, is exactly what I was kind of hoping I would see. So if, you know, if you don't know Bowman Gray,

it's got this reputation. They call it the Madhouse. There's all kinds of YouTube videos you can go look at online. Drivers chasing each other through the infield with their cars, running over each other after accidents, pushing and plowing in each other into the guardrail. The cops are often involved comically chasing drivers around in the infield. Even drivers chasing each other on foot.

I mean, there's a little bit of everything. And the crowd loves it. And it's theirs. They own it. And, you know, they embrace that type of drama. Now, that's not what happens every single weekend at that racetrack. I don't want to give a bad impression, but if, you know, you might see that when you go to Beaum Gray for a weekly show.

That's who they are. And they're unapologetic about it, and I think I enjoy it. They used to have a show. They had a one-season show called The Mad House on a history channel, and they did really good job with that show, sort of highlighting the atmosphere and the reputation that is Beaum Gray. And so when we went there with the cup cars, my hope was that is, you know, is our cup drivers really don't have a tendency to run over each other.

They would rather not get into drama with each other. Yes. Even over a win. It's more rare now than it has a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And which I'm not a big fan of that part. But, of course, when I was a driver,

I absolutely wanted nothing to do with drama. Because the problem with it is when you get into, you know, get into some shit with somebody, the media talks about it all week. And then the next time you're in front of a microphone, that's the questions they're asking you about. And they just can't let it play out, right? And it's bugs a shit out of you because you just want to,

you just want it to play out on the racetrack. Rivalries will continue week after week. But the insistent questioning and conversation around the rivalry or the new rivalry during the week by the media really makes it difficult for the driver to want to put up with it. So we avoided at all costs. We avoid running into each other, running over each other, running over each other because we just don't want to put up with the

noise off the racetrack that it creates. And so a lot of our drivers don't get into that kind of stuff on a regular race weekend. Now it happens sometimes at Martinsville and so forth, but it doesn't happen as often. And so I was hoping that when they go to Bowman Gray, that it would be inadvertently sort of, they would be, they would just kind of lose. their minds a little bit. And they did. They did.

Right. So you saw all of the drivers that have those tendencies within them. You saw that track, bring it out. You definitely saw it. Right? Yeah. And now if you look, if you take this. So imagine, TJ, in 19, let's just any, any year during.

the 80s. Let's just go to that decade. There were a lot more trips to short tracks. There might be four short tracks in a row. Yeah. You know what I mean? The cars were made of steel. They ran into each other. Every corner.

Yeah. And race the same car the next week. Yeah. Yeah. Beat the shit out of each other. And sometimes that would develop into a feud that might last a couple weeks. But you were, you You couldn't get away from it because you were at a short track beating it at each other one week.

Then you're going to another short track the next week. Keep that going. You just kept going. And that, the schedule that we used to have back in the 80s was really conducive to the type of racing and the type of chaos that we saw at Bowman Great. And so it was really, really cool. That was my favorite part, is I saw racing that after. Absolutely reminded me of what I loved in the 80s and the 90s before we sort of moved toward the mile and a halfs and more road courses and short tracks fell away.

Yeah. And so, you know, they did a really fantastic job. NASCAR did a really, really good job on the racetrack. They put, you know, they wiped it up, cleaned it up. Now, there was nothing wrong with it. It was certainly serving. its purpose, but to take the cup cars there, they shine it up a little bit. And they, you know, the cars and the package in terms of the package of the cars and the tire, like you say, allowed for the drivers to have some handling issues, have to be smart. And it ended up being a really entertaining weekend. Now, the, you know, so the race is happening. I've got me and you were in a group text with some friends, right?

Yeah. These are friends that have been race fans for years. Years. Years. Yeah. And I was really surprised by the reaction that they had. And I tend to take these little examples and assume that this is not just isolated to this text message. Like maybe there's a lot of people that feel this way.

Now, I know there are a lot of people that love what they saw, but I know there are some people that were a little bit shocked, and they were saying that it was too rough, too, you know, too rough, too much, you know, cars, too many, too many laps. It took too long to run the last chance race. It did take a long run. Right? That race was long.

Yeah. They're not wrong. At the end, it did get a little silly there at the LCQ. Yeah. I mean, that's going to happen. What are you, what, what, what did, well, then you got what you wanted, I guess, in the main event because it was, you know, the majority of the back half of the main event was nothing but just green flag laps and cars just.

Well, I didn't want that either though. Well, I mean, what the fuck do you want? I, I just think the last few laps, it was just like stop every time. You're picky. This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker. All right. Yeah. It's St. Burger King.

I mean, they could have raced a little sooner. I'm so, no, I've never, you know, so, you know, this has been, this was like the perfect example of, oh, I don't like that. And then that's, you know, and like the two extremes happened in the very same weekend. Yeah. And both the same group of people complained about how silly the last. chance race was and how boring the back half of the

feature was. So which one do you want? I'm like, God, man. Can't win. Now. I just want what the beginning of the LCQ was where there was the bumping and there was some spinning out, but I thought there was just... You got to take the good with the bad. Yeah, I mean...

I'd rather have the LCQ than the main. I will say, so be like me. Be like me. Let me tell you, be like me. I didn't love the main event. I wanted them to be more physical. I wanted that. They weren't, all right?

But I'm not going to poo-poo on the whole thing because, oh, I didn't get exactly what I wanted in the main event. You know, Chase didn't get, you know, I didn't want Chase to get sput out, but Chase didn't get roughed up for the win. I mean, Denny, Chase kind of leaned on him a little bit, and then Denny just fell in behind him. Next corner never touched him. I'm like, what are we doing?

Yeah, Denny said on his podcast that he thought he could pass him straight up. I'm like, Jenny, that's not you. That's not what anybody... That's not racing. That ain't what... That's not what anybody that bought a f***ickeet to that place wanted. And Blaney too said he didn't want to like bulldog in. I know.

So that, that to me is nothing we can really do about. You know, we can't really fix that. That's just how the drive... That was kind of my point earlier. The driver mentality over, you know, the last... several decades has shifted toward racing a lot more clean. And I think it's due to the size of the tracks we go to and the speed that we typically run these cars. So they're not at Bowman Grace.

They're not at tracks racing the way you race at Bowman Great. Now, if we were doing that more often, if there were multiple Bowman Grayes in the schedule, there would be lots more bumping and banging that would carry over into other weekends. there would be a lot more drama and feuding. There would be really, really good ratings. Now, let me ask you guys this. Denny said that it didn't matter that it was. I asked him, was it people trying to be polite early on?

He said no, but do you think that maybe some of the veteran drivers were like, I don't really want to cause a beef? The veteran drivers definitely race. Smarter. Cleaner, and they take less. All right, like, you know, I mean, put a guy. Put a guy who's put a guy like Priests in Denny's car in that moment. What is Priest going to do?

Shipping. Yeah. He's going to move him back. I mean, you know why? I mean, there's probably many reasons why, but one of the reasons why is because Priests is trying to win a freaking race and trying to prove himself. You know, and Denny and Blaney and these guys, I mean, they've got, Denny's got 50 freaking wins.

He's on the back end of his career. He's freaking, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, he's, completely content with everything that he's accomplished. So that, like, that really, like, killer instinct to go win a clash, like, win this race right now. I think he's won four of him already in his career. Right. So. I liked Chase's aggression when he got there.

I looked into one. We were fifth or six, and I looked into one, and I see Denny's left front locked up with Chase pushing him in there. And I'm like, oh, this is going to be, this is pretty cool. We're going to see some, they're going to move each other a little bit. And never really saw Danny give it back. I kind of wish that, you know, that he did. I wanted him to. I was watching that.

And he's good enough to not wreck him. He's good enough to do it. I don't know. You know, maybe you saw a couple guys spin off the nose of a few cars and you're like, wow, I didn't think that was that much of a hit. And it really just, you know, just turns them around. This car, I will say, like, once this car sort of, once you get a guy sort of loose and bus traction. Oh, it slides.

It slides. It slides. It's like it's really kind of weird. It's just lazy spin. Yeah. If they're already loose and you bump them a little bit. bit. It's just that it's like they're drifting. Yeah. And yeah, I noticed that to you.

It seems like it's hard for them to correct like the old car. Yeah. And so maybe he was worried about that. You know, you certainly don't want to spin a guy completely out of the lead, but it would have been kind of fun to see them trade some wraps. Yeah, it was a paint. I was enjoying the battle

with them bumping into each other. Yeah, I was too. I was like entertained completely there. Yeah, so anyhow, you know, I was a, I was, I was, I found it humorous, I guess, that my buddies were complaining about the last chance race, and then they were complaining about the feature as well for two different reasons. But you know what I'd like to see with the second half?

I think we should just not put tires on. I was wondering that. So I was sitting in this, I was sitting in a sports bar watching the race on this really giant TV. and I didn't know whether the rule would allow them to change tires. I was like, man, I hope they don't put tires on because, you know, if you watch the feature, it seemed like it started getting really interesting in terms of how cars handled and how badly they started. There was commerce and goers.

Yeah, in the last 30 laps of the first 100, the cars really started moving around a lot. Guys were missing corners and overdrive in the middle. And then when they got tires back on, they all, got comfortable again for the next 50 laps of the second half. So to your point, I mean, I think I'd have made their ass run the whole thing on 200. I would too. I mean, then you really got a man. There was, like, there was actually quite a bit of tire fall off.

And you could hurt them. You really could hurt them if you drove them too hard. So it was going to be interesting to see the guys that maybe rode in that mid-pack area, you know, eighth, tenth, and just didn't really push anything. And then maybe they could make a run at the end, you know, and I would have liked to have seen something like that. Yeah, I agree. Josh Barry, I was watching him.

He did a really good job in the last chance race. I know he runs some people over, but I think that's kind of what you've got to do at Bowman Gray, especially if you're trying to get into the main event. I mean, you can't be. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you got to do what you've got to do. That race was kind of messy.

There's guys that were, like you said, you start that race. You know the guys that are going to be aggressive. And I knew the car numbers that were in that race. It's like, okay, this is going to be pretty entertaining. And it was right from the beginning. I was texting back and forth with John Wood and Leonard. Wood about Josh because I was kind of just checking

making sure John was okay because he's probably loving it Well the the Wood brothers are very proper and They are And respected and They're classy and You know vintage and I was like

All right man you could with all this With John But they were having fun I guess you know There were a lot of drivers that were pretty upset with one another. Oh, yeah. You know, so imagine, you know, now, you know,

imagine if we were going to Martinsville next weekend. Oh, this is carrying over. Yeah. So that's the way the schedule used to be. Yeah. You know, that was the benefit, I guess, of having more short track racing in the series. If you're a die-cast collector like me, then you're excited about the start of a new race season.

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No, I don't think Kyle got up that far. Kyle only got mid-packed. Blaney was the one that drove through the field. Yeah, Kyle got mid-pack. Yeah. He drove through the LCQ field, I mean, decently. I thought Blaney got up there pretty decent, and then his car kind of went away. Yeah.

But that was really fascinating to see guys would change tires and their cars didn't drive as well the second half of the race. You can make adjustments too, though, so it wasn't like we just put tires on. Everybody, you could make quite a few adjustments. I'd heard a couple drivers talk about their cars just changing when they just got tighter on that next set of tires. Yeah.

I mean, you could make a lot. I mean, there's people. You make all sorts of adjustments, so who knows. And to your point, Blaney drove through the field. And Blaney, to my knowledge, didn't really turn any. anybody around to get through the field? Like he passed pretty much everybody. Plain and Joe of the smart race.

He got into Denny a little bit and that's about it. Yeah. But, you know, he didn't drive over the field. I thought he was going to get lapped in the beginning. Like, he was literally just chilling in the back, not even trying anything. Really? Yeah. He just took advantage of whenever people started turning each other a little bit.

And there wasn't a lot of it, but there's five or six that probably got spun around a little bit. And that's, he just slowly took advantage of two guys going to get to try to ski scoots by. Like, real smart drive by. Blaney. Yeah. What'd you make of Ty Gibbs in the LCQ? Yeah, you got some good air time, literally. Yeah, I was listening to door bumper clear and Blaney talked about how that probably

wasn't very comfortable for him when he landed. Oh, yeah. Because the cars had those rub blocks and it probably slammed down on the ground and probably wasn't very comfortable. But, yeah, I mean, I think he was just trying to swerve and. Voice displeasure. Bang doors, which is fine. I don't care.

I guess if it was after the checkered, it would be a different story. But I'll be curious, I guess, if NASCAR thinks they... I mean, is that much different than... Yeah, I don't think it's a big deal. Than Chicago? Yeah, Chicago's after the race was over. I guess. It's a little different.

I mean, I didn't... Yeah. But I don't know. It depends. If you want to be tick... I don't. I think it was... If you want to be Nick Picky...

I mean, I would adore a guy, too, if he spun me out. Yeah. I mean, I'm expecting... That was the thing we were talking about leading in the race. You don't want to deter. For sure. You don't want to deter that. Now, it can get over the, it can't go too far, but I don't think he took it too far.

I heard the crowd. Whenever he did that, you could hear the crowd, like, start cheering. You got to allow some of that to happen in that environment. They were into it. It was entertaining. I mean, he wasn't happy, and he showed it. Yeah. The last chance qualifying race is always going to be like that.

I think the guys are desperate to get in. It's the first race of the year. They've been waiting all offseason. You've got to try to get into this race. So they're going to do things they probably wouldn't do in the A-main. You know what I mean? So do you think that we should keep – we talk about the format for the clash. And should it just be poll winners?

Should we keep the format what it is because we get the heats and the LCQ and we get the drama and excitement? I was thinking about that. And if you're going to run that track, to me, I feel like that's what – I feel like that format was really good. If you're going to a Daytona or somewhere like that, I only want the poll winners. I want the guys that qualify the way in in, but if you're going to a short track, to me,

I think heat races with that sort of action, really, you almost have to. I don't think that was the show, man. Them guys desperate to get in. But if you go to Daytona and you run them, you have all the poll winners, then to me, there's less beating and banging there. You don't take as many risks,

but it is the fastest, the fastest, you know what I mean? We've debated formats for a long time and I'm kind of tired and so I was entertained with this one I would keep it the way it is it was a pure race

no gimmicks no inverting and silliness and you know none of the you know no gimmicks you know show up run your heat

run the last chance of race if you have to here's the main do your best and I think with the choose rule, it gives you a real shot to get through the field. It's up to you whether you want the inside or the day outside at this track. And the outside groove, surprise the shit with me.

Me too. I was really happy to see that. So, you know, if a guy got, if a guy did a really good job in the middle of the corner and got pointed and got in a throttle, he could beat the guy on the inside and clear himself. It was hard, but you could do. But it was, what was great about it is, is once he got cleared, he, had to make that choice. Am I going to drive down into the corner of the bottom,

risking the fact that I might get punted, or running the guy in front of me charging the corner? I mean, and there was a lot of contact because of those moments. For sure. And so those were always very entertaining. And, I mean, honestly, it's a quarter mile racetrack. The heat races had 10 cars on the racetrack. You could sit there and put all 10 cars on the screen

and be entertained the entire heat race. And then in the last chance race, you know, you're watching one battle where there's a bunch of contact, but you knew there was another one happening off-screen where there was a lot of contact as well. Car three and four wide. I mean, you couldn't get enough. For sure. Which is exactly what you want to feel when you're watching the race. And, you know, I think...

Does this make you want to... Does action like that make you be like, man, I'm going to the... this race next year. You know, knowing there's more action that you can see in person, you know? Like there was, like you said, the leaders might have been beaten in Banglama, but there was somebody in fifth or six that was really leaning on each other. Yeah. I mean, there was probably a lot going on that we didn't see if you're watching it at home. But that's every weekend. Yeah. There's all kinds of things happening around the racetrack that just, you know, you just can't get enough cameras. But yeah, I think I would definitely,

if they go back and I'm not working, I'm definitely going to go. It's right in our backyard. And I think TV did a really good job of helping you understand the atmosphere. Yeah, it was awesome. At least I could imagine myself watching it what it must be like to be there. And that's a hard thing for TV to do. But I'd probably go see it in person. I really enjoyed watching it.

I enjoyed sitting there and just, you know, they did a good job. I guess intros was really cool and they didn't show that, but I heard some people. It was. I took some video of it. I'll send it to you. I heard some people complaining about that. But, you know, maybe now that they know intros was going to be that damn cool, because intros is usually like a f***ing afterthought at every range.

You didn't see intros at all like anything about? I saw some video. So they rolled them all right at start finish line and they introduced the driver that start finish line. And the crew and the driver, they just all watched police around, and push the car around into the rest of the track. Yeah. But the people, I mean, you literally,

they're, they're right there. The fans are right here. And it's, it's completely awesome because most of the people don't get that close. Yeah.

So. I think maybe TV didn't expect the, you know, the driver intros to be a thing. Because most races outside of, I guess, Bristol with, you know, the walkout. The walkout songs, yeah.

It's relatively. It's a throwaway. It's like, oh, they booed Danny. Let's show that. They cheered for this and that. It's a very bland. It is a very bland. land at most races.

So either way, I guess we could just quickly debate or conversate about what we think happens going forward. For me, this was a success, massive success. And I don't always do a really good job of saying, talking about something I like without doing on something else. and so, you know, I'm trying to, you know, the clash at the Coliseum, I thought was really cool the first year. I didn't love it the second year and certainly hated it, you know, didn't hate it,

but didn't like it the third year. The only problem is, is like you can't, you can't, NASCAR can't do exactly what we want and go race at the clash once. if you're going to NASCAR to be able to work with the city and all of the Coliseum and all the things it's got to be this kind of three two three year contract right

same thing with the street course at Chicago I'm sure that wasn't a one-off and hey we'll see how it goes there had to been some commitment for multiple years there that everyone would have to adhere to so that everybody's in the same taking the same risk

so you know I'm not going to say I think there's probably a social media tweet somewhere where I thought I said hey man they should go to Beaum Grey not the Coliseum I'm not mad they went to the Coliseum I think it was cool the first year the track was forced the radius of the corners was bad it didn't race good at all

as you saw at Bowman Gray the radius of the corner matters just that little bit more of a wider radius allowed the cars to race and go around a turn. That racetrack at the Coliseum, and I drove it in a next-gen car. It's not a track. It's not a racetrack. It's not a proper racetrack at all.

No one ever would ever take that and build it to replicate it anywhere else. You can't race. You can't. And so, you know, you wouldn't say, hey, man, I'm going to build a, I got a, you know, I got a somebody gives you some money, Travis, and says,

hey man, go build you a short track in your hometown. That ain't a fucking layout you're going to build, right? No. So the,

you know, I'm not mad about the Coliseum, but, you know, I know that they had to fulfill the agreement and get, you know,

and when they were done, they decided, hey, man, let's try this at the Beaum and I'm glad they did. It's likely that they have the same sort of commitment

long term at Beaum of gray. We may not know that there's already ink on paper for this to already go forward next year. And even a third, who knows? So I'm not going to get too upset about what the future holds. I hope that they go back next year. I don't see how they don't. I hope they do. I don't know that they need to do it three years in a row. I don't know that it needs to, you know, I don't know that, oh, man, this needs to be the clash for the next decade. I'd go back next year and

I would even consider moving this the All-Star race to the Bombergrave Stadium beyond the clash, right? Think about how good it raced, think about how cool it was, imagine that track with some temp in it

with those tires wearing the way they are and a million dollars on the line, right? maybe that would get Denny to get a little more aggressive. I don't want to speak for him, but I think he's shipping him then. Yeah. Denny might not say it out loud, but, you know, I think everybody would be a little bit more aggressive, which is exactly what you're going to have to expect when you go to Bowen Gray. And so I think, and I've seen some folks, I'm not, this ain't a new idea.

I've seen a lot of people on social media over the last 24 to 48 hours talking about what they believe is the best foot forward for the clash and a few other puzzle pieces. the schedule. I think you go back to Bowman Gray and do this again next year to start the year off is a great way to get everybody excited about Daytona. Yeah, we got some fireworks. Now we're going to go

Daytona and see the 500. But maybe to continue racing at Bowman Gray, they can have the All-Star race there and see how that works. And then what does that mean for Wilkesboro? I was hoping that would mean that Wilkesboro would get a points race. Yeah. Bring back the first union

400 or I was going to say a good 400 lapar there something would be fun yeah so I think that you know the all-star the you know book spurl's been cool but I don't think we've really untapped the potential what Wilkesboro can really be because yeah the race is the race there isn't long enough and they're you know I think it'd be a great long run track I do too and so the way they're using the top of one and two it's it's going to create some really good some really good racing and it's going to create some contact too it's why they were they used a lot of the racetrack down there at wilkesboro so um you know i think that that would uh and then the so the clash what does that mean for the clash beyond you know beyond bowman gray you know there's this uh

they absolutely want to race in front of new audiences they NASCAR would love to race in europe or You see Brazil in the conversation on social media. And if that's what they, if that's how, if that's something that we absolutely are going to see in the future. Like I don't know if I love, I don't care. I don't really, I don't care if my cup racing goes overseas. I'm not, I'm not for it or against it. You know, it's not something, it doesn't excite me. you know

but I watch it but I'm not going to be sad if it doesn't happen does that make sense but if they take the clash overseas I think that one track that they absolutely should look at is Brands Hatch

the indie course at Brands Hatch is it's like a short track road course I don't think you know they're wanting to take the flash maybe overseas or to some different countries. I think you have to kind of keep it on that short circuit format. You can't go to these long mile and a half or two and a half mile or three mile road courses

and have a clash. That is not going to be a lot of fun. No, it would be boring. Yeah. So, you know, they may have some tracks that exist, some ovals, some small ovals that exist in some of these countries that they could try to run at. They may have, but I think Brands Hatch, while it is a road course, the Indies Circuit, which I think the Euro cars run on that, they ran some races there. It's like a, I don't even know the distance, but it's like a mile.

It's probably just over a mile. Right. And it's, yeah, it's just a couple corners. There's some tricky corners. There are some, yeah. We've ran it online. We've ran it on social. We've ran it on our Sim rigs forever.

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of tracks out there that they could consider. What do you think about the people that want it to be more grassroots and go to these other tracks nearby? Well, I love that idea a lot, but I just don't know if NASCAR would do it. You know, Bowman Gray is an anomaly because they seat 10,000, 17,000 people. Yeah, 17,000. So Bowman Gray's infrastructure, while minimal in terms of like a Charlotte Motor Speedway, it still seats 17,000 people.

How mean does Hickory sit? You know, they're not going to come in there and build grandstands at these places. I mean, they may could put in some temporary grandstands that are going to get you another three or five thousand, maybe. but I just don't know that NASCAR you know I just don't know that while it would be amazing for them to go to like Hickory or

some of these other short tracks to do what they did at Beaum Gray I don't know that NASCAR will look at it like it's like that's a realistic direction and you know you could say South Boston South Boston's got a really nice facility

and that might be one of the places you could probably consider taking the race, but I don't know, man, the location of Beaum Gray, it's kind of in this very dense area, which I think I, you know, you'd have to think about why that matters. I don't, you know, if they take it to South Boston, that's three and a half, we'll have two and a half hours up the road. It's a good hike from here.

I think, to me, I think the clash in this format has found a home because I feel like you're always going to have a few odd ball cars enter here because you're going to have some, there's guys that are going on this race. And going all the way to California, you know, for the Coliseum, it was awesome being at the Coliseum, but missing that race the first two years and not even be able to be able to be a part of it. Not making it through in the last chance. Yes. Yeah. And that's, I feel like if you're going to keep. You went all the way out there to get your teeth kicked in. And we literally just got punted in one of them because the guy wanted in and needed a caution, so he just wrecks you.

And here, not saying that's any, not acceptable here, but at least you're an hour away. I know. I'm of the mind like, look, man, I mean, to be able to go out and attract new fans, yes, you got to travel. You've got to get outside of your comfort zone. but you don't have to you don't have to spend a ton of energy doing that be such an entertaining draw

that they come to you somebody said 60% of the tickets for Bowman Gray were from outside of the state 44 states but so like I'm of the opinion that yes okay take

if you want to go to Brazil you want to race in front of different audience here and there in California and so forth. Absolutely go do those things, but don't like exhaust yourself. Yeah. You've got a really good look at the excitement around the Bowman Gray race. There's great energy around Wilkesboro, the Rockingham Speedway is kind of coming back into the fold. And those racetracks are the racetracks we were running when the sport boomed out of control in the 2000s. We didn't, we didn't explode.

2004 or around that time because we were in Brazil or going to the Coliseum. We had everything we needed. We had everything we needed. Right here. Everybody came to us. And when the product is great on track for people to watch on TV, you're going to draw more viewers. Yeah. If you're watching on TV, why do you care where it is?

It's going to be hard to get a ticket to Bowma Gray next year if they run there. Yeah. I think so anyway. I've always felt that way is like, you know, be you in terms of NASA. car you have a lane stay in that lane be you and and fans will come to that fans will draw to that and um but i'm again like yes you got to go to you got to do the chicago street course you got to do that you got the coliseum good idea go if you want to go to brazil good i would love to race brands hatch but i would make it to me i'd make it a points race do all of those things but not at the

expense of losing Rockingham and Wilkesboro, not at the expense of losing the tracks that actually were the ones that helped you become this mammoth sport, right? And so I

feel like that right now we're trying to be that. We're trying to be that sport that has bringing back some of the older tracks also still going and showcasing ourselves in front of new audiences. And hopefully,

that continues. You know, I'm glad the Rockingham speedway is back. It looked like the test there was a success. The new payments really fast. It's probably not going to be, it's probably going to be single file, bottle roof.

Yeah, it's probably not going to widen out. A lot of people are really optimistic that it might, I don't think it will, at least not the first race. Yeah, it's going to take a little bit. Yeah, and hopefully that doesn't deter people from, or deter NASCAR from keeping it on the schedule.

Give it a few years, and Rockingham will be Rockingham. Yeah. Just let it age. Yeah. Anyways, we'll see how it all plays out. This is Ask Junior Live, and we are on our YouTube page. Thank you guys for liking.

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Come on. It's not going up in real time. I guess I have to refresh. But anyways, I'm glad you're here. We had a conversation, me and T.J. around the Bowma Gray race. I think the general consensus is that it was fun. Everybody had fun, and we hope to do it again.

So we'll see what goes down in the future, but hopefully you'll tune in and listen to some of our critiques or opinions about what we accept. this past weekend. I was working in Florida, so I didn't get to go to Bowman Gray, but TJ was boots on the ground. And so we both had

two unique perspectives, I think, consuming the race in person versus on a TV. But we got some great questions. Andrew's here. Going to get some great questions for us today for Ask Junior, so let's get started. Yeah. This is

fresh off the presser here. And Charles wants to know So Xfinity just announced the Xfinity Fastest Lap Which will be awarded one point To the driver and team in each series Who runs the fastest lap of the race

So just I guess initial thoughts, reactions What do you guys think of that? So if I'm hearing this right, Xfinity will have a fastest lap Award in Xfinity series And Cup and truck and whatever driver runs that lap like the fastest lap of the race

you get a point it's pretty cool I think it's amazing you know I miss I do miss like the most laps lead bonus even leading a lap bonus I miss that because

I remember I remember being a kid and just you know dad was going to race for championships you knew that that was kind of we were We were certainly spoiled in that regard. We knew when we went to the racetrack, Dad was racing for a championship,

so every day was an important day to get as many points as possible. And so you were literally willing Dad into the lead in these races back in the 80s and the 90s going, we got a lead lap, all right, we did it. We led that lap. We got that five points. And if he was having a really great day, that was a conversation you were having before, even the race ended. Did we just lock that up?

Did we lock up leading the most laps right there? Yeah, we did. Okay, no one can get that point, that five points from us. And those were things that entertained you. Those were ingredients and little nuggets about NASCAR that entertained fans. So I love this.

I think this is perfect. In the 1998 and 1999 Xfinity series seasons, MCI, I think, is the brand or the company. It was a company that had a $10,000 bonus to whoever ran the fastest lap in the race. You had to be leading the race for this lap to account. But Tony Jr. and our whole team, that was really important. They wanted, they didn't, you know, it wasn't that they got the share in the $10,000 check, but they wanted to be the team that got that every week.

it was being the fastest was a point of pride to Tony Jr. and Tony Sr. And I have every single they would give you so that if you won the MCI fastest lap award at the Xfinity race, the next weekend during driver's intros, when you were introduced,

whatever award you won the week before or multiple, they would bring that onto the stage. So you would go up, get introduced, pause, stand there, and they would say, winning last week's MCI Fastest Slap Award, Dylan Hart Jr., and they bring this big giant check up there and an MCI or whoever the person was with the company or the plastic coat crew chief of the race.

You know, they would have the crew chief that won that award the last week at the stage, and he would go up and get introduced and accept his award in this big cardboard check. I have all of those MCI Fastest Slap Awards hanging in my garage at home right now. That's how much those meant. It's a big deal. Yes. It might not be significant today because it's a very small award and it served, it didn't give points toward the season total or anything like,

but it was just, it was just another carrot out there for Tony Jr. And the team to chase and they wanted all the carrots. They didn't want anyone else to win anything. And so I love this. I think these type of little things that drive, competition or push our competitors to achieve is really cool. And as we know, and I know the fans joke about this when we say in our broadcast, every point matters.

They joke about that because we say it over and over. Like they know, every point matters, right? We don't have to keep saying it, but we do. We do say it. There may be a new fan tuned in that doesn't know that every point matters, and we need to tell them. Guess what? It does.

And so this. is a point that's out there for these guys to try to strive to accumulate and you could win multiple of these right and and that could really make a difference in you know seating for the playoffs or even making the playoffs imagine being on the cut line and just you're one point out and you run a heater of a lap and now all of a sudden you're in yeah or you're watching can someone else beat that lap like it's something that's another storyline to follow during it So where this is probably going to take most place is the Talladega in the playoffs. I would love for this.

I'm not sure about the details. I'm not sure about the, what are you laughing at it? Dalton just commented in the YouTube chat, hey guys, just letting you know every point matters in case you didn't hear. I'm not sure about the details of this particular bonus point. It would really, really be great if it was only tracking the leader of the race and not just anyone. I mean, and I guess it really doesn't matter

at every other racetrack except for to your point, T.J., Daytona and Talladega. We do this already, but we just don't get points for it because your fastest lap of the race is already weighed in. Keep going. Keep going. Tell us why. Because if it all matters in your qualifying position next week, and sometimes if you, in the lower series too, sometimes if you don't, it matters how where your pit stall is going to be

and things like that. So we're already doing this every week if you can. So the fastest lap that you run in the race affects your qualifying, your pit stall, all of those when you get to choose and when you get to decide the next weekend.

It is part of the equation that decides the qualifying order. Oh, the order. Yes. Oh, got it. Got it. Got it. Yeah, yeah. Right. And so to TJ's point, they're already all out there especially in Atlanta. You know, if you're not up in the top

you're not going to drive up in there and get your ass wrecked. You're going to go to the back and get these big toes and try to be the guy that puts this insurmountable lap up to be able to know that that's going to help you next week in qualifying order and so forth, which may mean something may mean nothing, depending on how the weather and all the dynamic track is for qualifying the next weekend. But they're doing this. I have a screen in front of me that I can go to and look at the fastest laps of the race so I can see where we stack up.

And so for Talladega, Daytona, Atlanta, and some of those tracks, I almost feel like that this only should matter to the car that's leading the race. This bonus point, right, for the fastest lap should only go to, the fastest lap should only be tracked by the lead car. If you're leading when you run that lap. Yeah, if you're fifth, then you run the fastest lap, sorry. Great. But you've got to be leading the race to acquire this.

award. I don't know. I like that the whole field is involved in it. I will tell you this from what I've seen. I think in Talada Datooga, Daytona, though, it's gimmicky. Oh, it's going to be gimmicky. That's what I was telling you. Do you not understand? Yeah, no, I understand.

I mean, hell, let it be gimmicky. No. Sorry. I mean, at Daytona Talladega, you know. Let nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Listen, I don't like the gimmicks, but like if it's part of the game you play at Daytona Talladega,

it's part of the game. I don't like the gimmicks, but let it be gimmicky. Yeah. Okay. All right. Then I don't want to use the word gimmicky. We are roasting you in front of a live audience. That's not very nice. Sorry, Andrew.

That's not very nice. In front of 619 viewers. Let's see, because I want to get to, people were asking some great questions last week, too, and I see a lot of good questions in the YouTube chat as well. But Matt was asking last week, I think he was on Twitter, what's your favorite or least favorite eBay purchase that you've made? My favorite or least.

I guess what's your, what's like an eBay purchase, maybe you regret? Oh, um, shoot. Like you're like, I didn't really need this. Well, I mean, that probably happened more often on Amazon. That's probably most things. No, I mean, if I'm buying something on eBay, I know that I really want this, right? I'm bidding for it. It's not like a frivolous, oh, that looks cool.

Let's see if this is neat. Yeah. Amazon, I'll get you. Amazon, that's happened. too many times. I'll buy something on Amazon and it comes in and it's like, God damn, the quality's not as good.

Yeah. Sometimes I buy something for a get, I bought it, and then it shows up and be like, what do I order? Yeah, I think Amy does that too. We've had a couple of things come in, and she's like, I don't remember ordering this. And I'm like, so it's a mistake. And she goes, yeah, I don't think I don't need that.

I like when she does that. I'm like. Because I've got, most time when I come over, she's like, I order us. We don't need. Do you want? Yeah, sure. Oh, geez.

We had a set of taillights come in. It looks like it's for like a golf cart, right? Damn it, Amy. Little plastic brake lights. And it looks like they're very cheap and looks like it's probably for like a very low-end golf cart or something like that. And so it's her name on the box. I didn't order it because I don't need tail lights for something. And she certainly didn't order it.

Where is this going from? Who? Who sent it? And was it, Amy? Yeah, it's sometimes, like once a year, a package will come that makes no sense whatsoever. I'm going to start sending you these ghost packages. So weird. Jay, you want to get in on? Ghost packages. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it could be, well, don't they, like, that Christmas thing where it's like, like, random gifts or whatever? I am. Yeah. I am, I am, I'm basic, if, I am on eBay strictly to buy custom dockettes.

Yeah. Oh, really? Strictly. Yeah. If I'm on eBay and buying something, it's a custom dock ass. There's a couple guys. I probably follow about six or seven sellers that make customs, and they typically make a custom, post it, sell it,

and then maybe three or four weeks later they'll make the next custom, post it and sell it. And oftentimes it's a custom of my dad's. And, you know, he's got all, dad has all these random, I got a photo album in my phone, of all these random one-off cars that he drove for people. Like he'd get hired to go to this racetrack, paid $6,000 to go up north somewhere.

I was going to say, he did a lot of that, didn't he? Yeah, on a Friday night before the cup race, and he'd go drive some local guy's car and run the feature or match race with another cup driver like Mark Martin or Schrader. And people are now into making customs of some of these random cars that Dad had driven. And so,

You know, there, I don't know that, yeah, I mean, if I find one and I'm like, that's a really, that's a real quality job. This guy's done. We've got the new towers coming in, the new display cases coming in that, that, um, Lianel has now made available again. Uh, so I got two of those ordered. And so I'm, I'm still into like, you know, uh, increasing my die cast collection, but it's mostly customs. Now, you know, I have all of the late model cars that we've created, like this Sunrop, Cherry Lemon Sunrop car. So, I mean, if Lionel made any of the late model stuff, I'm going to have all that. We've had a couple of drivers come in here and autograph theirs, and I've taken those home.

So I got like a Chastain autograph, a Legano autograph, Lionel. And Scott Blumquist brought us an autographed die cast of his. So that's all that kind of stuff's in my collection. I'm hoping to get you guys over there one day with a camera and put all this stuff on film and push out a little social media clip about my personal collection, right? What's in it and why do I like this and why do I want this? And so I've got a little case dedicated to Ralph Earnhardt.

That would have been one of them cheap cases that I bought on Amazon that I thought was way better than it ended up being, but it's still pretty cool. So anyhow, we're getting in the weeds, but regrettable purchases would probably fall under buying something that you thought would be this isn't really regrettable but it was kind of a waste so cars today my truck for example don't have CD players right

okay I still I've got some old music that I that like maybe it's a local band from Charlotte right that didn't make it big but I've got that CD right from 20 35, 30 years ago. And I'm not going to rip it on to, you know, my phone. Digital? Yeah.

Why not? I don't know. Just not. I'm just like, I got the CD. So I bought a CD player that had plugged into my USB in my truck. Hmm, to play old, to play old CDs. And I wrote around in my truck for about two weeks listening to this old CD. And then, you know, that was two months ago.

And now that CD player, that little external CD player has been sitting on shelf and and I walk by it and I go I really need that I mean that didn't really need that but yeah that's a good one I'm always curious about

like who's actually reviewing these things because like I look at the reviews because you were saying like oh this was not a good quality item I'm always curious like who's leaving these reviews I'll check the reviews I do too but I'm like who actually writes a review I would never write a review on but I don't know

Have you never wrote a review? I've never wrote a review on Amazon, but I've written a review on like, I've written a review on, like, on Apple with music, like when somebody released a new record. Really? Yeah. Wow. I've written probably about two or three Apple, Apple reviews. Good.

Oh, really? Well, yeah, I'm not going to write a review to it on some. I don't know. Some people do. Maybe you should go back to the thing. By the way, you can't. And review this podcast as well. Go do that.

Not impressed with this. album. Let me write a review real quick. Let me take 15 minutes out of my day. No. It's like, you know, one of your favorite bands releases a new record. You listen to it and you're like, hell yeah, they still got it. I freaking love this new record. I got to

tell somebody. And you go in there and you fill it on out. Damn right, buddy. I'm normal. Well, maybe you should review the CD player and just write, you know, in the review it's right, do you really need this? Yeah. I think twice. Use it for a

You need to write that review. That's what I'm saying. I really like this, but damn it. Do you really need this? In two weeks you're going to regret buying this. This is really random. You got to look up the, it's like the hair bro, sugar-free gummy bears on Amazon. Wait, how's that go again?

What are they? They're like these sugar-free gummy bears on Amazon. Hair-bro? Yeah, the hair-brough or, I don't know. Hair-bo? Yeah. Just look it up after this, and it's hilarious. I want to see some comments in the YouTube.

All right. YouTube chapter after this. All right, we got time for one more quick one. Let's see. I know, I know. Wait, we just started. Yeah. This one's from Cole.

This was from last week's YouTube chat. I took a screenshot of it because it was good. He says, I'm doing my bachelor party in Daytona. What are some good bars to go to to raise hell? There aren't anymore. Yeah, the bars that we used to raise hell at don't exist anymore. No, not. How about?

20 years ago. I don't know, there could be some good statements. No, I have no clue. If I was to... It's not like there's a ton of like... You're going to... I know where they're going to end up, but I'm... There's not...

I mean, there's a lot of good... What is it? Ocean Deck or... Yeah, deck down under, ocean deck. There's both of them, I think. Yeah. Oh, I don't know. I mean, you know, I was thinking about this because I'm going to go to Daytona, and there may be a little bit of downtime.

And since I'm not driving a race car, I might actually go out to the beach and just kind of hang out at some of the beach bars and have a few beers try to catch up with some. Because a lot of industry people go to like, I think there is an ocean deck. It sounds very familiar.

Right. Yeah. I should like completely know the names of these places. But, well, that's changed too. Yeah. I haven't been to the beach beach party in a very long time. There's only like one club and I think that was Razzles.

Yeah. I think it's actually still there. Still digging. Yeah, and then there's the other establishments across the street that you'll end up at. But the deck down under and the ocean deck, I do think both exist. Yeah. So I would just, you know, go to them little beach bars and get you a bucket of beer and hang out and see who walks in. You might recognize some people.

You might recognize some. Because a lot of the industry folks end up there. Might see us. And it's a long week. Yeah. like Tuesday or Wednesday on, so you'll see some people. I'm seeing some places in the YouTube chat. North Turns, another good one.

Yeah, no one is it. Oyster pub. Oyster pub? Yep, I recognize that. The brickyard. Brickyard? I don't know about that one. You can go to New Smyrna.

There's some pretty cool spots in New Smyrna. Morgan Overstreet just texted me said, Yayas, which is a hole-in-wall karaoke bar. It's not, yeah, yeah. It's, yeah. Sorry, I think she's typing to correct me out too. there's uh there's another town clearly there's another town right next to daytona it starts with the d what is it deltona yeah i think it's deltona yeah stop no seriously it's not

no it's like day it starts with a d but i can't remember the name it is uh it's right west of where we're where it's at yes but it's got like vintage record store um and a couple probably a couple cool bars and stuff there okay there is it is deltona it is deltona It is. I'm pretty sure it is. Deltona, Florida does exist. It's on a map. This place is literally 10 miles away from Daytona.

It's like straight west. It's not far. Is it inland? De land. The land. The land. The land. Dalland.

Yeah. No. It does exist. I mean, there's a lot of those. Destin to land. The land, to land. DeLuine. We got all these holidays too.

Okay. Travis. Wait, wait. The shark lounge What is that? Yeah. I think it's closed. Is it?

I wouldn't know. Yeah, I think it is. I do think it's closed. Okay, Travis gave me the We Can Ask One More Question. Hey, thanks, Travis. Thank you, Travis. Everybody.

Yeah. What should we put in the chat for celebrating Travis? Give us a beer emoji. Beer emoji. That's pretty good. It's signed for Travis. I saw a few of these, but this one's from Kathy,

wanting to know about the Talladega Knights cameo, where you asked Will Ferrell for an autograph? How did that go about? And then people even want to know, do you still have the page that he actually signed? Like the paper he signed. Oh, no. He scribbled. It wasn't like a real autograph. Oh, really? But, so...

Great. Movies ruined. I feel like I told this story really, recently. Oh, really? Yeah. So, we filmed they asked me to come they asked me to be a part of it course I was like absolutely thanks for asking where do I go when we're going to do this we did it at Charlotte Murray Speedway it was not a race happening that weekend

and we went I drove over to the racetrack completely comfortable driving in there been going there my whole life even when there's not a race going on you know so drive into the racetrack and and over toward turn four the old old cup garage and all of these campers and little rental campers and stuff are piled into this little blacktop and they were like just go in there and park to sit around

somehow catch you somehow grab you get you going hair makeup whatever it is and there was a little table with about four chairs nobody's sitting there and I just sit down and started thumbing on my phone or something and I got my head down and somebody sits down at the table and I look up and it's Will Ferrell

and he was like, hey man, how's going? Thanks for coming today. And we sat there and just bull-h-for about five, ten minutes. And then he's like, I'm going. I'm going to get ready and do this. That day you want me over here. So he's like, they'll come get you in a minute. And I was like, all right.

So we got ready. They drug me over to the, you know, in the infield of the Charlotte-Merc Speedway where it's kind of like the crosswalks, the crossroads of everything. Yeah. All the roads sort of converge. Yeah. Yeah. I think they made it into a roundabout now.

Yeah, maybe. I don't know. It is. It's like right outside the entrance to the cup garage. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That's where we were standing when we filmed that little sign of my forehead thing or whatever, baby.

So they got it, they had about, you know, 20 or 30 extras. And we were kind of going to run, walk through the crowd and meet. And we had our lines that was scripted. He was a little bit of an ad liver and he could be free with whatever he wanted to say. So we took, we did probably three or four takes and they were like, that's good. It was very quick. And that was that. I said, hey man, appreciate it.

Thanks. He said, thanks. And I went on, home. And then there's, if you watch the credits, you'll see more of the drivers and Will doing some stuff. And we did that at Talladega. And that was during the race weekend. They were like, hey, Will's going to come in. they want to film just some stuff.

Y'all talking, he's going to be in his suit, you're going to be in the garage, and I don't know if they were planning to use it or just see how it worked, but they didn't end up using it in the movie, and I think it just rolls in the credits. Yeah, I know what you're talking about. Yep.

That was a little more tense or nerve-wracking because they didn't have a script. They said, Will's going to just start talking. You just react. What? And that was really tough because, I mean, look, man, he's a professional comedian. And I felt like,

Like, am I supposed to be funny? Right. Or do I try to be funny? Because I'm never going to be as funny as him. Yeah. And what the hell do you do? You know? And I didn't want to be a fool, right?

And so I was going to try to be a smart ass back. But I was never going to be as good as him. So what the hell? You know, so it was just tough. But it was really fun, really fun. You know, they just basically had us kind of walking from two different directions. We're going to bounce into each other. He said something about like, hey, man.

You know, one in one. I think he's like, dude, you see. to have got that, you got that 20 you owe me. He was just coming up with things. He would just randomly say something and you're just like, oh, this is where we're headed. And did you like respond? Yeah, you're supposed to say something. So you say something, right?

I don't remember what I said, but it's probably not very funny. And we did that three or four times. And then he's like, they're like, all right, good. We're good, man. That's good. Appreciate it. Wow. That's neat.

Yeah, it's pretty neat. But to your point earlier of saying like the, the, the, second part of having to do those. It's hard to be like funny on command. And I think that's what he's really good at. I will say this, man. It makes me think about that movie. And I told the story about watching that movie for the first time

at Skywalker Ranch with George Lucas. Yes, yeah. And I've seen the movie a couple times, obviously. I always felt like, and I wonder if there's any real truth to this. But that movie to me, the first half of that movie was full of really, really good moments, humorous,

quirky, smart comedy, right? And then the second half of the movie felt like a completely different movie. Still funny, but like, it really feels like to me, and it's probably really unlikely, but it feels like there was an entirely different director on the first half versus the second half.

Like the whole movie felt Like it just had this one vibe And then right at the middle point It's like we found a plot halfway through Yeah And then it had a completely different vibe Not bad, not good, not... It's different.

It's just totally different. Like the whole production crew quit It halfway and they had to bring in this other one And it just seems different But the whole different The vibe Like the story, like to your point

The plot sort of just got introduced in the middle of the show, you know. But, like, the first part of the movie is a lot of, um, just jokes about NASCAR, right? You know, the, what do I do with my hands and, and all of that stuff. And it's all the just quick, quick, witty jokes about our sport, which was really fun. Mm-hmm. To, to sort of the self-deprecation of NASCAR. And, uh, but then, yeah, the second half, the plot comes in and you're like, yeah, I kind of

like the first half better. I was more entertained, I guess, by that. Yeah. Anyway, still a good movie. And even though it was a joke, we can definitely handle being the butt of the joke. I was curious what your thoughts were on that. I didn't mind it. I thought it was good for NASCAR.

I thought it put us in front of a new audience. And yes, it poked fun at us. But I don't know that, you know, I don't know that it was not detrimental to NASCAR. car in any way. Yeah. I don't think. And so, if anything, it kind of

carried, it improved our popularity outside of our own bubble, right? Sure. All the people that are already in the tent. But best favorite strictly NASCAR, favorite NASCAR movie.

Oh. What's yours? You go first. Last American Hero. Okay. Last American Hero is Jeff Bridges is the star. It's about Junior Johnson, roughly.

loosely and Junior Johnson's story as a moonshiner and a driver and I don't know why I think the reason why I like it is because they it was before it was done in 71 or 72 73 and it's before

Hollywood eventually right is going to sensationalize you know in the night as we know when we see movies made about people that we know the story, you see some of the Hollywood sensationalism creep into the story and they embellish, right? In parts, because they got to make it, right?

It's a movie. But this was made about racing about NASCAR before that was really a thing, I believe. And so it's authentic. It's really authentic. And so, you know, when they're filming at the short tracks and filming his sort of rise to

the big time. It's a really authentic feel. And staying in boring, lonely old hotel rooms and getting in disagreements with, you know, these punks at these local racetracks. And, you know, and there's some footage of Ralph Earnhardt in there driving at Metrolina that's really neat. But I don't know.

I just thought that it was a really, it didn't feel like they stretched any truths in that movie. Authentic. Yeah, it's really authentic. But some cool actors in it too. Jeff Bridges, badass. I mean, back before Jeff Bridges was super, super famous, he played in a, you know,

played Junior Johnson in a NASCAR movie. How damn cool is that? You know? How many movies do you know of Andrew, racing movies? Good question. I mean, well, I will kind of cheat and use the YouTube chat, and I did want to give them a shout out,

but I'm seeing a lot of stroke race. There's a Days of Thunder, obviously. Gary in here said Strickrace. I love stroke race. and that reminds me too, Gary Busey was in Last American He wrote. He's Jeff Bridges' brother, Gary Bucce. Yeah. But I love Stroker Race.

I thought Strucker Race was awesome. When I was a kid and it came out, I thought it was amazing. And it's still one of my favorites. Sixpack. I think I saw... Yeah. Love Sixpack as a kid. Ryan Lane?

Jake just said Sixpack with about ten exclamation points. Sixpack was bad. Six-pack was badass because of the dirt car. That dirt car that Brewster Baker drove was freaking insane cool. That Camaro in the paint scheme on that thing? It was neat as hell. Brewster Baker is a badass racing name. I mean, just cool.

And I mean, when you watch those movies, oh, and Love will turn you around the song, the theme song that Kenny Rogers had for Six-Pack, that's in my rotation. I'll listen to that today. The opening guitar on Love will turn you around. Freaking awesome. You listen to that today.

Yes. It is my favorite Kenny Rogers song, and I have many. Yeah. But I thought it was cool that Burt Reynolds, I mean, when Bert makes Strucker Race, he's coming off of all of those badass movies that he's making cannibal runs and all of that stuff and smoking the band.

He's coming right off of that. And could have probably done anything he wanted and he made a racing movie. It's awesome. It's a big deal. That's a big compliment. It was big. It was really, really big for us to be, you know, I mean, if you're a fan, I always looked

at it like, yeah, man, they're celebrating this niche thing that's happening in this little small corner of the country. And they're, you know, they're shining a light on us. It's awesome. Yeah. And so I loved all those movies. I don't think that there was, I love Days of Thunder, thought it was cool, the rumors around that.

Number two. Yeah, having a number two. I'm down. You're down? Yeah. Heck yeah. Be so cool. Yeah.

Yeah, we'll see. I wonder what the plot would be for like Days of Thunder two. I don't know. And Tom Cruise looks like he hasn't even age. Yeah, I'm curious that they would have him. I'm curious if he's still driving in Days of Thunder 2. Yeah, right. Is he the owner now?

He's like Casey Kane. Just doesn't age. All right, well, that is a good place. And S. Jr., by the way, 1,100 live viewers. Damn! So thank you, everyone, for tuning in. Way to go, y'all. Hey, and I'm seeing those likes.

Y'all finally got them up into the 300s there. Good stuff. Hey, I appreciate y'all. Thanks so much for supporting us here. We're having a lot of fun. This year's gotten off to a great start. I'm loving having T.J. here. And I'm loving that I've found the chat,

because it does feel like y'all are sitting in this room. Makes it different. It does. It is cool. So we had a great talk with Richard Childers for tomorrow's guest segment. You're going to want to tune in. Richard was on the show in 2019, and we went through that interview and kind of picked a bunch of stuff that we didn't get to.

And obviously talking to him about current stuff going on in the sport with the lawsuit and the penalty at Richmond and all kinds of other things. And he was really mad at me and told me as such at Phoenix before we went. to race for a championship with each other, and we talk about that, so you'll want to tune in. Great conversation with Richard to start a year off. We've got some great guests coming down the pipe. We're already booking weeks out in advance,

and it's going to be a good year. So thanks for tuning in. Can't wait to do this next week. All right, so we got some news about a live show that's coming to Daytona. We want to give you all of the particulars here. Obviously, we've got some amazing partners at Sirius XM and Dirty Moe and Sirius X-X-E.

are going to team up and host a live show in the fan zone in the Daytona Enfield. This is Thursday, February the 13th from 3 to 4.30 p.m. I'm going to be hosting the show from 3 to 4. The Dale Jr. download. I'm going to be joined by Jeff Gluck and Jordan Bianchi from the Teardown and Andrew as well. I was hoping. I requested that we get Gluck and Bianchi. Yeah.

Because I've never really got to sit down with those guys in that kind of a format. And they're excited. And I'm too. I am too. And they've got their opinions about things going on. And so that'll be a fun, fun hour. So from three to four, again, I'll be hosting the Dale Jr. download live on February 13th on Thursday in the fan zone of the Daytona Enfield. We'll have some special guests dropping by.

And then from 4 to 430, there'll be a crossover show with some of the Sirius XM NASCAR radio host. We'll have Denny Hamlin from Actions, Debtree. instrumental and Andrew is going to be sticking around as well for that. We're going to have some fun giveaways. We'll take some questions from the crowd, obviously. So if you're in Daytona, this is something you're going to want to check out and be a part of. There's a lot of room down there in the fan zone, a lot of fun stuff to interact with, so you'll be able to enjoy the show and have some fun.

All you need to watch the show live is a ticket to the Daytona fan zone for Thursday. and you can go to Daytona International Speedway.com slash hardrock bet dash minus sign that is fan zone. That's pretty cool. Hard Rock Bet is promoting the fans on, some good folks. We'll also be posting the Dale Jr. download portion right here on the podcast feed

and on YouTube afterwards for anyone who can't be there live in person. But for the Dale Jr. download with me, Galuck, Bianchi, and Andrew, Justin Algarire is going to drop by Helio Castorneva, as it's coming by Martin Trex Jr. and Cole Pern. It's so exciting. Yeah. So that'll be a great

conversation with all of those. Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen. Place your bets. All right, it's time for the Dirty Bowdo segment and we're going to bring in Alex Thames. We're going to talk about the Super Bowl. one thing I got to say, man I'm seeing this shit all over the place.

People think Dirty Mo Doe disappeared. I know. It's right here. What in the hell? No, it's right here. We're doing content throughout the year. Yeah. I've been seeing you and Travis. You guys are creating all kinds of content around Dirty Mo Doe and still putting out a lot of

great advice. So folks, if you were to say, hey man, if I was a listener and I was like, Alex, Dirty Modeau's gone. You didn't tell me. I didn't see it. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

No, you're still doing some stuff. Where do I find it? You find it right here on the Dell's your download. You'll find it on Dirty Modeau's YouTube channel. We'll have videos throughout the year. Dirty Modeau's YouTube channel is still here? Still active. We're going to post stuff on there.

I'm always active on Twitter. If you got a question, you subscribe to it. Yeah, subscribe to it. Message me on Twitter. I mean, you can find it. Jeez. All right. So Dirty Modeodeau.

He's 1-0 on his picks for NASCAR this year. Dirty M-Dodeau is alive and well, y'all. Come on. We got big plans, all right? Big wins. We got big plans. So anyways, we got to, did you do anything for the clash? I know you were saying on Dirty Modeau's content,

you were saying that you're not likely to put anything down on the class. I wasn't, but I bet Chase L.A. to win. Yeah. Of course you do. You know what it was this year? I was simplifying it, I'm like, you know what? If I like a guy to win, I'm just going to get him. And I like Chase. He was fast.

I think you could pass on a short track, unless they dumped them. Well, he did dumping. Yeah. So, big win there for you. Let's go on into the Daytona 500. I imagine there's all kinds of things that you could partake in coming up. You know, you got the duels, you got qualifying. Are you messing with any of that before you actually start the Daytona 500? You know, I don't think so.

I think this drafting track is really like the only one I wouldn't because I see a lot of people ask about McDowell because he won about every drafting track poll last year. But he switched teams and I think there's a lot of Chevrolet. Yeah, he's a brand new team. Not driving a Ford no more. That makes a massive difference. And also, like, year to year, like Hendrick had their dominance. Now it's Ford's. You don't know when that shift's going to happen. I feel like you need a race to kind of see how it plays out, and then you kind of can go forward at, you know, Atlanta

or Talladego, whatever you want. So what is your approach to Daytona this year? You know, it's very similar to Bowman Gray. Have fun. I bet the long shots. Yeah, I mean, listen, it's fun to have the Ricky Stenhouse you know, bet. It's fun to have that underdog. You know,

It's just, it's such a crap shoot. We say it every year, but it really is. It is. So I guess where does the betting community feel? Where do they line up right now with the, you know, a couple years ago, this guy made an insane amount of money, placing, you know, Rick Ware and a few other, you know, Spire and a few other teams in the top five. I forget the teams, but he had this really just stroke of luck where three or four teams

finishing the top five. Yeah. Ended up like making a million bucks or something. Where does the community sit on stuff like that? Is that still a thing? Are you going to put a parlay together, or are you going to bet a couple of those teams to have that kind of stroke of luck?

I mean, if you're going to, this is the race to do it. I don't see why you won't throw a dollar or something small on it. Because what if it does it? You win all that money. But, you know, I wouldn't go too crazy with those because they are long shots for a reason and you're getting that payout and that price for a reason.

But, I mean, hey, it's the first race of the year, why not have some fun, and you might get lucky. How smart are the books getting? Pretty smart. I mean, Chase Briscoe was the favorite for the clash in his first race with a 19 car. Wow. Early in the week, yeah, and I thought that was really surprising, which, you know. I mean, nothing against Chase, but.

No, but it's his first race of new team. Yeah, you've got to wait and see. Yeah, I mean, and they're always very, very high on Ty Gibbs to get that first win, so you're not going to compete with that. So they would, a job. adjusted pretty well this year. I was surprised. I got you.

All right. So, yeah, no, you're going to give me a bet you're going to make for the 500? Like, hey. Well, I will say, I still got a week to prepare here. But I will say, I do think it's going to be a big name going to win. Like, you know, we had William Byron when last year. I think we're going to go on a run here. You know, we had that run with, like, Cendrick McDowell, Stenhouse?

I think it's shifting to now we're going to have, like, a Kyle Bush, a Kyle Larson. Maybe you're Ryan Blaney, somebody who hasn't won before that's going to sneak through and win again this year. All right. Well, we'll have another chance, I think, to talk about this. But we wanted to put down a parlay for the Super Bowl, and I've been thinking about this. I was working with some friends this past weekend who are in this type of thing, and they asked me to put together a parlay. And you can do three or four, but I ended up with four that I feel pretty good about.

But we're going to sit down and do our own four-player parlay for the Super Bowl between T.J. myself, you, and Travis. Is T.J. going to watch? I know it's the Super Bowl and it's a big event, but are you, can you bring yourself to watch the Super Bowl with the Chiefs, TJ? I don't want, I'm sure I'll watch part of it, but I'm not sure I'll sit there and watch the whole game this time. I'm just, yeah. I wouldn't be able to. Yeah, I don't know I mean, I'll watch some of it, but This is probably the least most excited I've been for a Super Bowl in a long time

Well, if your ass will fucking put this parlay in, You'll be watching it I'm gonna, I got a leg here I've got a leg here This will be the incentive to Want to watch this game, so I'm going to go with the Saquan Barkley anytime touchdown. Damn, he jumped right in there.

All right, anybody else? I'll go. I got a juju-smithsuster over 16 and a half receiving guards. Seems pretty low. Sorry, T.J. I got Patrick Mahomes over one and a half passing touchdowns.

Hey. I like that. That's a good one. I'm not surprised with you. All right. So I looked at a couple trends, I guess, is a way to put it. Jake Elliott kicking points over six and a half. I think he's done this, cleared this in the last seven games.

And I, you know, the one thing about that, that is don't y'all um i felt like as the playoffs begin things tighten up everybody plays a little tighter a little more a little smarter a little closer to the vest and particularly in the super bowl the um the overs are not i think teams don't underplay or downplay but the you know those those guarantee touchdown drives often sometimes may end up just being three points. Yeah. Right?

A little more conservative. They just want points on the board. Yeah. Yep. That's good for this game. I'll tell you why as well is because the Eagles are going to get close to scoring. And they don't like when the team score on the chief. So there's going to be a lot of holding calls on third downs.

They're going to have to kick field goals. Is that right? I think Jake Elliott clears six and a half on kicking points. And so I'll take that one. So, Juju, over 16 and a half yards receiving. Jake Elliott, over six and a half kicking points. T.J. is going with Barclay for any time touchdown.

And Travis has Patrick Mahomes for over one and a half passing touchdowns. There was another prop that I was looking at. Just kind of curious what you guys' opinion is. So Barclay, I think his lines at 110 yards. It's crazy. That's a lot. In a Super Bowl. That's really good.

He's insane. He really is. I think I read somewhere that the Chiefs haven't allowed a hundred-yard rusher in the playoffs. During this whole run. Yeah. You know, what do you think Barclay does in terms overall yardage? I feel like an alt-line of 80 is a good line. That, or if you could find one where it's like receiving and rushing yards combined or something.

Yeah. Because I could see him getting like a screener, He's going. Yeah. Honestly, I think he's going to be game playing against. They're going to have to find a way. They're going to make Jayleners throw the ball. He's tough to stop.

Like, planning to and actually stopping him is two different things. Sure. I mean, this is the Chiefs, right? Yeah, because I'm sure the other teams they played didn't game plan for sake. Yeah, exactly. I'm sure they didn't. This is the Chiefs. Well, I don't, I think that I wanted to go for, for Barclays rushing, but, you know,

his lines, for me, that 110 is pretty high. There is, there is a new feature on Fandil I'm seeing. for the Super Bowl they're laying out. It's called Your Way, where you can actually set a player props line to, like, the exact yard you want. So say you want, like, 72. You can set that.

Now, the odds will change when, if, you know, what the yards you want, but to throw it in your parlay, it's pretty interesting. Markley at plus 75 yards is 750. Oh, man. They don't want to get beat with him. They really don't.

Yeah. If he has 100 yards, I think they win. I think they can still, I think Chiefs can still beat him. Oh, yeah. I mean, you know, because he's, he's the thing about it is is like he's he's bad to break off that 60 or 80 yard run and that'd be the bulk of his work rider and i think he had a against washington he had a little calf or a little yeah kind of a lower leg concern we'll say and um of

course when they get the big lead against washington he didn't play as much um but uh so it'll be interesting to see i guess how how how healthy he is he does have a long long runs. Yes, he does. And while that's awesome, if you're betting his line, I think cheese, I think, you know, even if he busts off a long run here. That's not healthy for the, the, you know, Eagles, they need a long drive, like steady. The Eagles needs him to be like, you know, seven here, eight there, nine there, six there, ten there. Good news is he does that like two of the times a game. Get his hundred and ten yards that way. Yeah. To keep their life, their drives alive. It's weird. He's so dominant. And, uh, but, uh, but, he does that he's,

But there'll be times when they don't just seem to utilize him as much as, like, you'd lean on him as much as you'd think. But, yeah, I'm curious. I'll be curious to see how the Chief's game plan against him. And, but I'm hesitant to, like, 80 yards, it seems like he should be able to get that. But it won't really be moving your overall parlay line. On the counterpart, it's hard to imagine he's not a big part of Philly's offensive game plan. I mean, you're not going to go against that. So, I mean, 80's a good number, I think.

But it's, yeah, all right. All right. So I like our parlay, ma'am. We're going to go with Juju over 16 and a half yards. And then Jake Elliott over six and a half kicking points. Patrick Mahomes, one and a half passing touchdowns over that. And then Barclay in the end zone. Even if Barclay doesn't get his 80, I see him scoring a touchdown.

One way or another, that man is not. He's been on a mission all year. Yeah. He's going to find the end zone. All right. Hey, Tim, Tim, thanks for showing up, man. Appreciate you. Great information.

Again, we'll dive more into Daytona next week, I suppose. Yep, it's going to be a good year. All right. All right, it's time for the white flag. The Teardown was live on YouTube from Bowman Gray after the clash, breaking down the race. Gluck and Bianchi, man, they do such a great job. Love listening to their show,

getting the instant reaction from what we watched as fans. And then on Monday, action is detrimental dropped. Then he had a good race going until eventually, you know, Chase and Ryan drove by. We're looking forward to how his 2025 season goes. New crew chief, a lot of things going on with him. Obviously, the, you know,

the involvement that he has with his own team as an owner. It's going to be fun to see how that season plays out. But the new look, door bumper clear, also dropped Monday. And Ryan Blaney joined the show. I actually sat on my couch last night with Amy and watched the entire show. A lot of fun, really happy with this first show.

And I know they'll get their sea legs. And I thanked Ryan. I sent him a text for coming in and being our first guest for the new look, door bumper clear. But I was, I thought the show was a lot of fun. Yeah, there's some good chemistry there. And, again, I think they'll just continue to get better. Tommy was awesome.

He's, hey. He's wild. Yeah, but he does. I mean, he's got some great opinions. and he's measured when he needs to be, but he's also very honest. So I'm excited to have him as part of our team. I've always had a lot of respect for that guy.

I've never really had a lot of time around him. So I'm thankful that maybe this partnership and him being part of the family will get to know Tommy better. Tomorrow, my interview with Richard Childers Drops, that was a great conversation. I think you're going to want to listen to. and then Herman Schrader and the Speed Street boys,

they're at it again. That's also dropping Wednesday. And then Thursday, we can finally talk about it. Bless your heart comes out. Amy joined me last season once a month. Well, we're tuning it up a little bit and we're turning it up. We got a brand new show every Thursday. You know, I'll be straight up, man.

I'm not going to be asking Amy's opinion on who she thinks is going to win this race or what she thought of the clash. We may talk racing because it's what my life is, but for the most part, I'm kind of wanting to let her take the lead on this. And I want to spend the whole year, like, helping her or seeing her develop into the host that brings us on air. It should be a lot of fun. So, you know, hopefully you'll give it a listen.

I know we'll have a lot of people that will tune in just because they've had a lot of fun listening to me and Amy over the past year. but it should also reach maybe a unique crowd that doesn't really listen to some of our other content. There's no race this weekend, but don't worry. We're going to have a full dirty air show on Tuesday as we dive deeper into the season and the upcoming Daytona 500.

Can't wait to lay out our playoff predictions next Tuesday. Let's get all the predictions ready, Travis. Let's do a final four. You know one thing I enjoyed the other day was doing the, you know, talking with Tim's about the over-under on the wind tunnels, win totals. Yeah, the win totals for some of the teams. And so that should be a lot of fun.

Another thing that I would love to bring back is the Immaculate Grid. Okay. Yeah. I know that that probably was a pain in the ass for Tim's to come up with back in the day, but those were pretty fun. And now that T.J's here, I think we could have some good times. I would probably take, I think I would probably take TJ to school

some of that stuff. Okay. The test is knowledge. But, what do you think, T.J. You ever done an Immaculate Grid, T.J. No. It's freaking fun.

I'm looking forward to this hands. You know what they are. Now. Basically, there'll be like four teams here, or three teams or four, and then four teams here, and you've got to match the driver that drove for each team.

How far are you going back? Oh, it's back. Oh, yeah. You get real far back. You're going to be... At least you'll get educated. You might not win, but you will get educated. It'll be a lesson.

Yep. Anyways, we've got to have a good year. Dirty Air, T.J. I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, me too. Should be good. Hopefully the races are... I know they're going to be exciting and give us a lot to talk about.

Yeah, for sure. All right, man. Have a good weekend. Everybody enjoy the Super Bowl. And again, tomorrow guest interview coming out with Richard Childers. And bless your heart. And then, yeah, we're going to check. Check out the Super Bowl, see if our parlay wins.

See y'all later.