The Dale Jr. Download - Hurricane Havoc with Cleetus McFarland; Landmark Lawsuit with Jeffrey Kessler

Episode Date: October 3, 2024

Today, we’re tackling two major stories in the NASCAR world and beyond: • Lead Attorney Jeffrey Kessler joins us to break down the major antitrust lawsuit filed by 23XI Racing and Front Row Motors...ports against NASCAR and its CEO Jim France. • Cleetus McFarland shares his incredible experience flying his helicopter for Hurricane Helene relief efforts—an emotional story you don’t want to miss. And of course, we wrap things up with Ask Jr., where Dale Jr. and Amy answer fan questions. It’s an episode packed with action, insights, and heart! Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We got a jam-pack lineup for you today on DJD Reloaded. First, we're joined by Jeffrey Kessler, the attorney representing 2311 racing and front row motorsports in their groundbreaking antitrust lawsuit against NASCAR. And then we're going to be switching gears with racer and YouTuber Cletus McFarlane, who not only tears it up on the track, but also flew his own helicopter and rescue efforts during Hurricane Helene this week. And of course, we're wrapping it up with Ask Jr., where he answers all the most pressing questions. So a lot to get to, like I said.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Let's get started. The following is a production of Dirtymo Media. Welcome into another episode of DJD Reloaded. We were going to do something different. No idea that a tradition was going to be started. The racing world is Connor Zillard's oyster. Is he truly the next NASCAR prodigy? Hey, you did a cartwheel down the stands.
Starting point is 00:00:52 Holding your cooler, your arm never bent. It was like watching the Olympian at its, and it's odd. Well, 2311 and front-road motors sports have not only not sign the 2025 charter agreement for NASCAR this coming season, but now they have filed a lawsuit. We saw that report out earlier today. It is Wednesday right now. And so we have reached out to the attorney of that case to provide a little bit more information for fans out there to understand this just a little bit more and explain that lawsuit so that we all can understand it. We have Jeffrey Kessler joining us now. And Jeffrey, I guess I just, for an overview for fans out there that are
Starting point is 00:01:37 listening that are maybe familiar with the charter system and kind of the negotiations that have been going on for a couple of years now. I'm just curious if you can kind of explain this lawsuit, maybe just in the simplest terms that everybody can understand. So, nice to meet you, caller. Thanks for having me. This is an antitrust case. An antitrust case is a case which argues that the rules of competition are being violated. We have antitrust laws that regulate competition. What we are arguing here is that NASCAR is a monopoly. No surprise to NASCAR fans, there is no alternative to NASCAR, not just in this country,
Starting point is 00:02:31 but frankly around the world. and it got its monopoly illegally. And the reason it had gotten illegally is because it tied up all the racetracks in the country, because it doesn't let any of the teams compete for any other racing circuit, because it seizes the intellectual property of the next-gen cars
Starting point is 00:02:59 so that those are locked in to nest. And it engages in all of these restrictions so that the teams have no one else to deal with and the fans have no one else to deal with. What NASCAR then did, because it's run basically as the private enterprise of the France family, to benefit them, is use that monopoly to force terms, economic, terms on the teams that they barely can afford to be in that start. In 2016, they started what's called a charter system, where the teams could pay millions of dollars to have the right to compete. There were 15 teams in 2016. Nine of them were already out of business and had to be replaced because of the they can't afford to put in
Starting point is 00:04:06 tens of millions of dollars a year into these teams and pay the drivers and all the money goes to the France field. That's how NASCAR is run. So the teams can barely make it and the drivers make even less because they're just getting a piece of what the teams get. So something had to change.
Starting point is 00:04:30 On September 6th, NASCAR using its monopoly, went to all the teams at 5 o'clock and said, here's a hundred-page agreement, either accepted by six or you cannot have a charter to compete. Most of the teams folded because they couldn't afford to fight NASCAR. They couldn't risk their franchise. They couldn't risk their employees. two teams my clients did not fall. That's Front Row and that's 2311.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They decided somebody has got to stand up to this bully. Somebody has got to say enough is enough and that they are going to file this lawsuit so that NASCAR could come into the 21st century and give these teams and drivers a fair economic chance to match the fact that NASCAR fans do not go to see these races to watch Jim France. They go to watch these races with these teams at these drives. So that's basically what this is about.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So why do you think just front row and 2311 were the only two teams to do that? You mentioned money being an issue, but there were some other top-level teams that also, I guess, assumingly so, signed this agreement. So not everybody's got the courage to stand up to a bully. I've done these fights at college. I've done these fights in the NFL. I've done these fights in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:06:09 Okay. Not everybody will stand up, right? Not everybody will take the pressure. Not everybody will take the risk. Some people will go along at scraps. Okay. 2311 and front row have had enough. Somebody has to say, this is enough.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That's what they've done. You mentioned working with the NBA and some other leagues out there. How does this tradition, how does this what NASCAR does, how does that compare to the traditional franchise model? So it's a very different model. And we're not saying create that model for NASCAR. NASCAR has to have its own model. But what's common is the history has been a group within the sports trying to keep all of the economics for themselves
Starting point is 00:07:04 and not sharing it with others and restraining competition so you don't get the benefits of competition in your market. That's common. And each of these sports have gone through a period, a transformation moment, where they had to decide either we're going to change and be part of that change or the courts are going to require us to change. That's where NASCAR is right now. They either have the opportunity to sit down and work collaboratively to try to agree on a settlement and create a new system that will benefit everyone to be fair or the courts are going to do it for them.
Starting point is 00:07:47 And that's what we're going to find out. How does this lawsuit aim to make NASCAR more competitive? Because just listening to even guys like Denny Hamlin talk about, you know, on his podcast, Actions Determinal, he's talking about wanting to do this for the longevity of NASCAR to make it better in the long run. So how will this lawsuit possibly help that? So, okay. So it's like any business, right? We probably have a lot of small business owners out there listening.
Starting point is 00:08:16 People can understand this. If you're going to invest money in your business to make a better product, to grow the business, there has to be some prospect, no guarantee of success. No one has a guarantee of success. But if you do a good job and you're successful, you've got to be able to have a chance to earn some kind of fair return on your investment. Otherwise, nobody's going to invest in this. That's why all those teams are gone from NASCAR.
Starting point is 00:08:50 That's why a NASCAR charter will be sold now for maybe one multiple, like one times revenue or less. Okay? When you go sell an NBA team, you're selling it for 11 times your revenue, right? Because there's an opportunity to actually get a return. NASCAR will not survive. It will not grow. It will not develop if you do not allow the teams a fair opportunity to realize on their investment.
Starting point is 00:09:26 Because without the teams, there is no NASCAR. You know, 70 years ago, maybe you can run a team, I don't know, for $10 or $20,000 a year. That's not how the Huscar works today. You need $18 million on average to just put one car out. out there in terms of that. You've got to be able to earn a return to that. And it's not like the money's not there. The new TV deal is worth more than a billion dollars a year, right?
Starting point is 00:09:57 You know, it's a huge amount of money. But it's not going to teams. That's the problem. We hear the term monopoly used a lot with NASCAR and especially around this antitrust lawsuit. In what way are they exercising monopoly? Well, the most dramatic way they're exercising it is this take it or leave it negotiating with the teams, right? Because they can know when they go to the teams, they can say, as they did on September 6th,
Starting point is 00:10:29 either you accept this really bad deal, which gives all the economics to us and you just deal with it, says, or go find your own racetracks, right? You know, where are you going to go compete, right? you know, how are you going to exist, right? That's monopoly power. That's what the antitrust laws are designed to prohibit and prevent, that kind of abuse. When you take a look back at the 2016 Charter Agreement that was there in place before, what part of that agreement do you think was maybe the most harmful to teams and to the sport? So is that any one part? It's the whole part, right? It's the fact that looking like all the terms together did not give these teams an opportunity
Starting point is 00:11:19 to be able to make the investments necessary to survive and thrive. I mean, you can say, you know, it's not about, well, oh, it's just like the television revenue split is bad or the governance provision is bad. you need the whole deal, their complicated deals, to be a fair set of terms. That was never NASCAR's objective.
Starting point is 00:11:45 But again, the way the France family run NASCAR is not like we don't have to be fair, we have a monopoly. We'll just decide what's good for us. We'll get the bare minimum we need so that we'll have these teams, you know, willing to
Starting point is 00:12:00 basically fold and take it. And we'll just go forward and run it for us, right? In 2015, the Forbes estimated the France family was worth over $5 billion. Well, that was 2015. It's going to be a bigger number today by a lot. Can you go into a little bit, too, of what the 2025 Charter Agreement is and maybe the antitrust release provision in that of what this could, why you think the new agreement is also illegal? Right. Well, so, talk about the release provision. That's really interesting. So what of their tickets is, if you want to compete in our charter for going forward, you have to give up all your legal claims. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:48 You know, so like you basically have to, you know, you have to give up, submit, and don't keep punching, right? You know, the bully, you just got to lay down, right? And take it. And so one of these things we are seeking in this lawsuit is what's called a preliminary injunction which is going to be an early order by the court that'll be issued in the next month or two that will say you cannot enforce that so we can just go forward and compete with charters and we'll continue we'll take this to trial, we'll litigate this as being there but you can't make the ticket for us going forward being that you give up the right to fight in the first place. So that's going to be the first issue that's the get the sign of this case.
Starting point is 00:13:36 You're very well-versed in this, obviously. It's a big case that could potentially change just the trajectory of this sport. How confident are you in the case right now? So I don't bring cases. I don't believe it. Okay. No case has a 100% chance of success. So, you know, we can't be certain, but we are confident. You know, we believe this is an antitrust violation. We believe we will prevail. It may take time. You know, antitrust cases don't happen in a day. I suspect it'll be a year or more before we get to a trial. But we're willing, my clients are willing to make that effort to take that fight to, you know, to the end. You know, when I had my antitrust fight with the NCAA, which is still going on for the athletes, some people may be college sports fans, all the changes going on now on college sports is in all litigation.
Starting point is 00:14:34 We carried on that fight for 10 years to get the NCAA to change, and it's happening now. But, you know, so sometimes it takes a long time, but it will happen. It's more a question, not when. It may be a question of when, but it's not a question of if. So it could be 10 years. Well, no, I don't think so. You don't think so? This one, I think we will get to trial at least within a year and
Starting point is 00:15:04 a half, two years, something like that. We will get to trial. So what does this mean for the ability of 2311 and Front Row Motorsports to compete in 2025? What's that look like for those teams? They are both determined they will compete no matter what, right? It determines how they will be able to compete. You know, if we get our injunction, they'll be able to take charters and compete as a charter team. if they don't get the injunction, they will have to compete as open teams next year, but they will be there no matter what. They're not giving up on NASCAR,
Starting point is 00:15:41 at least for next year. I don't know how long you can keep competing as an open team, but the idea would be for some time they can do that and they will at least go out trying to do that next year to start. But we hope it doesn't come to that. We expect that we have a good chance of getting our injunction, and then they will just compete as charter teams. want to make mention as part of our coverage, we reached out to NASCAR. As of this recording, though,
Starting point is 00:16:05 they have not yet released a statement. Now we're really going to shift focus a bit to what's happening around us currently right now. So many people have been impacted by Hurricane Helene this week. If it hasn't hit you personally, then you know of a loved one, a family member or a friend that's been impacted in a major way. And this week, Andrew Curlin had a chance to sit down with Cletus McFarland, the YouTuber and Racer, who's been really kind of making waves both on and off the track. But this week, Cletus played a key role in the relief efforts in Western North Carolina after Hurricane Helene. So let's go ahead and take a listen in to their conversation. So we've all seen the devastating impact of Hurricane Helene this past week that has hit Western North Carolina and Tennessee.
Starting point is 00:16:48 And we wanted to bring someone in who has some on the ground experience with Greg Biffle, helping with the relief efforts. Kalidas McFarland. You're here to tell us all about what your past week has been like. First of all, just thanks for taking some time today. Yeah, yeah, no problem, man. Big fan of your guys stuff and honored to be on here and talk to you. So how did this first all get started for you and connecting with Greg Biffle to help with some of the cleanup, helping with some of the victims of Hurricane Helene and the impact? Yeah, I can give you a quick rundown. I met Greg Biffle like maybe a month or two ago at one of my Crown Vic races. And he joined last minute.
Starting point is 00:17:36 Absolutely great guy raced with us and it was cool. I probably didn't, I didn't talk to him after that. I think this is July 20th. It was when I met him. Didn't talk to Greg for a while. Well, I get a call from a buddy up in North Carolina with a helicopter, a helicopter buddy of mine. and he's like, hey, if you could bring your helicopter up here, we could really use some help.
Starting point is 00:18:00 So my wife and I were going out to dinner. We just jumped in the helicopter, flew it up to the, your guys area. We actually landed at Statesville Airport. Originally, we were going to Greenville, just south of Asheville, but there's no power there. So I had posted online that I was going and Biffel texted me. We stayed with him. And then in the morning, Greg and I flew into the disaster area together. And that's kind of just how it happened. Like he just reached out and said,
Starting point is 00:18:35 hey, I can give you a place to stay. And we couldn't find a place to stay. So it worked out really good. And he gave me fuel for the helicopter and supplies. So. Yeah. Worked out. And this helicopter, it was originally an abandoned helicopter that you flipped?
Starting point is 00:18:51 Yeah. So, you know, our YouTube channel, we do a really, broad spectrum of motorsports type stuff from building you know, race cars. We just built an all-wheel drive, Dale Earnhardt, Craftsman
Starting point is 00:19:06 series truck, and we bought this abandoned helicopter from Venezuela. And I've had helicopters for years, but this one's a really cool one. It's called MD 500. And it was abandoned for a really long time. We bought it for cheap, fully
Starting point is 00:19:22 renovated it and picked it up last week. and so it just happened to to be the right timing and it was the perfect helicopter for this mission and we went into the deepest parts of I think the damage went into some crazy tight spots and got on the ground and helped people get water insulin you know other medications anything you can name and the way just hauled out whoever was weakest and just did it all day. How long have you been a pilot for? Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you. No, you're good. I got my pal. I think I've had my helicopter license for four years.
Starting point is 00:20:08 So not super long. But I fly all the time. It's basically a daily driver. We use them a lot around here in Florida. It's the best mode of transportation in this area, you know. And it's just, it's a blessing to have them, you know, and my YouTube channel is the reason I have mine. And I feel super blessed all the time just to even see the things sitting in my garage. So a mission like this, you know, it feels like you have to do it.
Starting point is 00:20:39 You know, if you have that blessing to own it and you get that call, like that's something that we really wanted to be a part of as pilots is helping these people. You mentioned four years, it's not a whole lot of time to have a pilot. license and you said you had to get in some difficult spots. How much of a challenge was it rescuing some of these people? You know, I would say that most of the landing zones are like, like a seven out of ten or higher in difficulty. Really? And that's probably the thing that I don't think people understood the most because everyone's like, you know, where's, where's the government and where's the Blackhawks and the Chinote? And they were there when we were there. but, you know, the rotor wash that comes to the Black Hawk is so crazy, especially at Chinup.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Like, these guys, if they go down into these holes, you know, not only do they blow stuff everywhere, those helicopters are 60 feet long, a Black Hawk is 60 feet long. I'm typed in them, you know, and it's a, it's like you're flying a school bus. You're sitting in the front of a school bus, and then you just pull this lever and it flies. So they couldn't really get in on that tight stuff, and all the private helicopters, guys started showing up and that's when we really got a lot of supplies into the small areas. So, you know, I'd say the difficulty level was really high. And as far as I know, as of right now, there's been no accidents with the private helicopter
Starting point is 00:22:12 guys, which is amazing. Yeah. No, that's really good. You said seven out of 10 or higher. So like what type of landings are you encountering? Is it difficult terrain? is there not a lot of room to land? I think, yeah, the, the hardest stuff is when there's like 50 foot trees, right?
Starting point is 00:22:33 Yeah. And they're in a circle. And what residents were doing was drawing X's on roads. And you're welcome to pull a clip from my videos. They'd put an X and then we would fly over it and we'd see them and then we'd see a group of people down at the bottom. So, and we'd also have, you know, 600 pounds of water bottles. and other equipment with us. And like the real,
Starting point is 00:22:57 the real difficult part of a landing like this is the helicopter uses the most power possible during an out-of-ground effect hover. And I don't know how to you tell you want me to get, so I could go on a ramp, but basically out-of-ground effect hovering, the helicopter has to, that's when they use the most horsepower. So you have to get straight above these circles,
Starting point is 00:23:21 straight above this hoverhole, and then make a vertical descent. And all you can see is out of the front, right? And so my wife is reaching her head out of the door, watching the tail. And you just have to go really, really slow and bring the helicopter down. And also have enough horsepower to do it because you're at elevation, there's wind coming down the mountains, and then you have to go perfectly straight down and land,
Starting point is 00:23:46 and then unload and then hopefully take people out. And depending on the weight of who you're taking, and it was just really tough flying. We were using every bit of horsepower we had. And what was one cool story is I landed on this really tight X. And I'm talking to these guys while they're loading their wife and his wife and her mom. And I'm like, they're telling me that the town up the hill, they can't get to it because the water cut through. and then they can't get down the hill because the water cut back through their road.
Starting point is 00:24:24 So there's like three sections up this ravine. And I'm like, how many people are up at the top? And he's like, there's 50, I think. And I said, you know, do you think you can hike across this guy had a rope around his chest? I remember it so vividly. And he's like, I'm like, do you think you could get up there and tell them we need an LZ? Because I had already gone up the top. And he's like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:50 I said, I'll be back in an hour. And I come back, I fly these women back in town. I come back. This dude cleared like a square acre and drew an X in an hour. And I was just like, oh my gosh, we pulled up. Sure enough, this man cleared an LZ. And then we went in, dropped supplies, and went back out. It was just like these got.
Starting point is 00:25:15 And everywhere we landed, there was kids from, I would say, 16 years old. to like 80 years old, these like taken charge and being organized and making it happen. It was, it was really fascinating just seeing how these, a lot of young men were like really stepping up to the plate. And I just couldn't believe it. It's like nothing I've ever seen before. What was the emotion of the people when they saw you were here? that you were there to help rescue them and get them to safer place? Like, what was the emotion on their face and their voice like?
Starting point is 00:25:58 Yeah, that's a good question. I can tell you that I landed at a fire station. And, like, we were, I would say we were the first faces they had seen since Friday morning when it all went down. And, like, when I walked to that fire station, they were, they were pretty frantic. Like, you know, just wondering, when are we going to leave? And they were just, they had no idea what was going on. They had no communication. They didn't know who was alive out of their town.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And that was, there was a lot of emotion. And I went inside to see this map because they had a physical map. And the amount of like houses they pointed out on the map, I remember, it was a lot. And then I took off to go check that area out. and like there was there wasn't not very many houses so you know imagine the world's biggest bulldozer just driving through you know every low spot because so much water would drain into the the valleys and then just landslide down that's the best description of it wow you mentioned you know you were the first faces they'd seen since friday morning
Starting point is 00:27:24 I know Greg posted on his Twitter is one of the first posts. I think we saw of his rescue efforts of Starlink that these people would be able to communicate to their families. How many of them was that their first opportunity to tell people that they were safe, that they were alive? Yeah, I think that was one of the biggest, aside from pulling people out, like, just to set my own Starlink on the ground and let everybody connect to it at certain spots. and them like hearing them when they're just hearing them when their kids picked up the phone and they tell them i mean it was pretty intense man i'm not going to lie that was cool and then we would also just put all their numbers in our phones you know when my when my wife would get connection she would text them all and like it was uh it was crazy like then we would fly and get a connection obviously
Starting point is 00:28:17 and my wife would send all the text and the families would reply and just be like like, thank you so much. Like, where are they? And that's what we'd tell them. You know, we would just tell them what we saw. And it was, it was incredible. Like, it was incredibly humbling to just see fellow human beings, Americans, where you think the best life you can have is,
Starting point is 00:28:42 and these people had nothing, but a quarter of a water bottle left and, like, no plant. because they just didn't know what to do. Yeah, it's just, it's crazy to reflect on it. I mean, it's incredible just hearing that story. And, you know, we were talking on the download this week with Dale and Amy about what people can do to help the relief efforts, whether that's bring food, donate money. I mean, you were there talking to these people.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You've been helping with the relief efforts. what's the best, most effective way people in the area, people across the country can help? I don't 100% know the answer to that question anymore because I haven't been there for a couple days. But for example, like Hope Mill Inc. When we got there, this woman named Aaron, we met her at the airport. And she was just like, hey, you guys have a helicopter. opt here. I have supplies. And I was like, great. Where, you know, do you have a spot to go? She's like, yeah. And that's when we started, like, really making missions happen. And her go, her, she was using
Starting point is 00:30:03 Venmo. And so I posted her Benmo. And Benmo shut it down for some reason, like, right when she got to $10,000. So she's like, hey, I'm going to start to go fund me. We post that. We post that up. it's at $594,000 right now. Wow. So that's the Hope Mill Inc. really fun. I think that, like,
Starting point is 00:30:28 I haven't communicated with her in a day or two. I don't know how much money, uh, she wants to get, but I can tell you that that woman is 1,000% going to use that money for the right thing because, you know, a lot of donation points.
Starting point is 00:30:46 It's kind of scary. Do you know what the money's going to be used for? This lady was there. She was the first one there. One of the most selfless people I've ever met. Organized, making it happen. I have 100% trust that that money is going to the right place. So she's a good one.
Starting point is 00:31:01 And then for Matt McSwain, I think he's the one in charge of. There's a fuel helicopters to save North Carolina. And that one's up to, man, like, it's over 100,000. as well. Oh, here, let's see. It's at $315,000 in fuel for the private pilots, because there's about 50 helicopters up there now and doing this deal, Operation AirDrop. So another nonprofit came in, like day one, Aaron helped us a lot, and she's still operating up there. And then this other nonprofit came in, Operation AirDrop. By day two, you know, day one, we had three or four private helicopters, actually maybe maybe a little more. By the end of day one, we had probably 10. And then by day two, there was about 40. And then I heard yesterday there was over 50.
Starting point is 00:32:01 But, you know, those are the two groups that I can speak to. I would trust giving money to Operation AirDrop and Hope Melfund, if that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, sorry. I might have lost you just there. for a second. I got you, I got you again now. Um, you know, you have, you, Greg Biffel, your wife, you guys have all impacted these people's lives in such tremendous ways. What type of impact do you think this experience helping people is going to have on, on you?
Starting point is 00:32:38 You know, I don't feel any different about, you know, much other than the fact that like, getting out there and seeing that stuff definitely makes it. makes you realize how little some of the stuff we deal with in our everyday life matters. Like, for example, I blew the transmission in a brand new build today. And it's like, why even get mad about it? You know, a younger Kalidas would probably throw his hat on the ground and be pissed off. But it's like, we just don't even know how good we have it. And it's really a perspective thing that,
Starting point is 00:33:22 I think I'll never have the same perspective I did going into it. Just because when you get down and dirty and see that stuff, it, we have it so good. I can't, I can't even, uh, describe how good we have it.
Starting point is 00:33:41 So yeah. I, and I, and everybody, when we all got out of there, like for, for the night, we were all just like,
Starting point is 00:33:48 damn. Like, that was, that was crazy. And Biffel and his wife were just, the greatest people. So, I don't know, just a lot of really good people, man, like, that were helping out. So I think everyone was on the same team and came out with the same humble opinion that we have it really good. And those people are in for a long battle.
Starting point is 00:34:11 I know you're back in Florida now, right? Yep. Do you know if you're making any plans to go back and continue with it? I know you're racing tomorrow, I want to say. Yeah, we're racing this weekend, But, you know, Matt McSwain, the owner of Acme Arrow, is kind of like my communication point because he's helping with Operation AirDrop. Like, he's the one in the office telling these helicopters go here, these to go there. Great guy. You know, I spoke with him yesterday, said, hey, we don't need you. Spoke with him today. Hey, we don't need you.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Because at this point, there's like all the critical missions that we could. serve have been served, you know, like, hey, this guy's got a broken leg up here. It needs to get pulled out. It seems as though a lot of stuff like that has been served. I don't want to speak for everybody. But now they're just bringing in generators, fuel tanks, Starlings, and Matt called me a today that they're going to try and like switch to, uh, they're going to use helicopter still, but switch like ground vehicles, like UTVs or Broncos and try and just like haul a lot of supplies and that'll help with power and internet. So I think we won't be going back.
Starting point is 00:35:28 I think we're done. Where can people follow along on, you know, I've enjoyed seeing your updates. Where can people follow you, follow your racing, so that we can, you know, stay more in touch? For updates on the storm, like you could follow Greg Biffle's page, he's still posting stuff. I'm posting some updates from my,
Starting point is 00:35:52 Operation AirDrop on my Facebook page, which is Garrett Mitchell. But if you want to watch the fun stuff, like the racing content that we produce, the best place is the Cletus McFron YouTube channel. That's where we do. That's where all of our action happens. Well, Cletus, thank you so much for taking some time. And more so, thank you for everything you've done to help all these people so far. Yeah. Thank you. Like I said, what an incredible impact you've made on all these people's lives. and I know people are really going to appreciate what you, Greg Biffle and everyone's done. And thanks for bringing more awareness to it. You know, I think the more money that we can get to those GoFundMe's, I think 100%, it's going to go to the people of North Carolina with nothing in between it.
Starting point is 00:36:36 You know, it's going to go from the donators' hands to right to their hands and helping them rebuild. So appreciate you bringing awareness to it. Thanks so much, Andrew, and to Cletus, an incredible interview on just the impact that he's having off the track right now. We're going to take a quick break, but of course, don't go anywhere. We're coming up next. It's your favorite segment of the week. We got Ask Junior. That's next.
Starting point is 00:36:57 Hey, everybody, St.L. Jr. And you're here again for another episode of Ask Junior. And I have my co-host with me. It's the first of the month. So it's Amy. And excited to have, I guess we're doing Ask Amy again here today. And so this is sponsored by Xfinity Mobile. Exfinity Mobile customers now get exclusive access to Wi-Fi speeds up to a gig.
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Starting point is 00:37:41 Ready? Get him with that one. Yeah. Andrew, hit Andrew. You want to hit me with this? Oh, man. Fomp. Hit my foot.
Starting point is 00:37:47 This first question is from the YouTube chat. Colton is asking Amy, how many of Dale's trophies do you allow him to display in the house? We have trophies sitting here and there and everywhere. I don't know how many of there are. So here's the thing on Dale's trophies. He doesn't own all of them. Yeah, I'm the police in general. They think I'm as warden.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Warden. Warden. The man gets to do whatever the man wants to do. Let's just say that. We've got Bristol in the living room. And there's his champion. championship trophy in the hallway. What's the clear one on the floor?
Starting point is 00:38:25 The All-Star Race. All-Star Race trophy. He's got a few in his office. So the Hall of Fame has some of them. I think some of them might be here upstairs. There's two on the counter centerpiece as you walk in. That's right. His Daytona trophies are in the foyer on the table.
Starting point is 00:38:40 But like all of his most popular driver trophies, I think, are upstairs here. So we kind of move them around. I, um, one of the things that I always wanted to do, and I never have. of is I wanted, so I saw what Casey Kane did. He built a big cabinet in his shop somewhere, but it's all his trophies in one wall. Yeah, it's right as you walk in on the left. That to me is really, really cool.
Starting point is 00:39:06 It's displayed very well. Yeah, I would love that. I personally don't care if they're in the house or not as much as I used to. Like when I was racing, I wanted them in there, but it's not as important for me. actively see them laying around. I was really, really happy, though, when she put, so she'll change that centerpiece to the entranceway of the house and do different things there with seasonal stuff or whatever.
Starting point is 00:39:35 And so she was putting, I guess it was a year ago or two years ago. It was right before the season started this year. Right before the season started, she's like putting my Daytona 500 trophies on the centerpiece. I put this giant palm tree. I'm like, all right. We're getting ready. Setting a vibe. Getting ready for speed weeks.
Starting point is 00:39:51 Getting excited about the upcoming NASCAR season. They're still there though. I didn't have been too late. They've stayed there. For two years they've stayed there. No, it's been since the beginning of this season. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:40:02 Feels like longer, which is great. That's great. It's better for you. It's longer. I was really happy about that. I did just get a 10 foot skeleton though that I'm hoping to switch that. Oh, yeah. I've seen those.
Starting point is 00:40:12 The Bristol trophy. The Bristol trophy is in this one spot, but it's really, we don't have another decoration that would work there. because this spot's kind of this really tall thing and the trophy just kind of fits there but it terrifies me because the Bristol trophy is the Sharpie 500
Starting point is 00:40:29 and on the corners of the corners of the trophy are Sharpies and they're plastic. They're little plastic sharpies and I'm like just waiting on one of them little girls to grab on them sharpies. Nicole has grabbed at it that she's gotten and hollered at pretty quickly so she's not gone back. And Tara Sharpie off of that thing. Freak out.
Starting point is 00:40:49 But that's basically what I told her. You can't touch this. That he's going to freak out. I would, I mean, if, you know, I would love to basically take every trophy that I have and be able to put it on a wall in a big case and go, okay, what are we missing? What's not here? Yeah. There are some downstairs too in the poker room. Because there's some, I'm not 100% sure I know where every single trophy is from the Cup or the Xfinity days.
Starting point is 00:41:15 And so it'd be kind of nice to kind of know which ones might not be around. Where are they? Find them. Let's track them down. Yeah. 100%. In the YouTube chat, we have Leon tuning in from the Netherlands.
Starting point is 00:41:29 Hey, Leon. It's pretty crazy. Hello, Leon. Next question's coming from Facebook, from Dave. Did you get the name painted? She Said No on the boat yet. No. You have not painted it yet.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Is it she said no, but she said yes? Is that the actual name of the boat, or is it just she said no? No, she said no, and then we thought about putting, but here we are. Or I did it anyway. Yes, that's it, that's it, yeah. No, I don't think so. We've just kind of taken a break from messing with the boat.
Starting point is 00:42:00 There's just been other things happening. Yeah. The boat's good. I need to go over and check it out. It hadn't been over there in a couple weeks. We were getting the generator tuned up. I need a little tune up on the generator. And so we're kind of in the middle of doing that.
Starting point is 00:42:14 But it'll be a decal. Oh. Yeah. Not painted. No. But it's like the paint schemes that are actually decals. Yeah, you can't tell. It's all the same thing.
Starting point is 00:42:26 But we're, yeah, it might be on there. I need to call Sunny and see if they've already decowed it. Oh. So it could be on there. So it could be on there. We've picked it out. We picked the font out. We've said, okay, get it.
Starting point is 00:42:36 This is it. We chose it. So I don't know if Sunny's put it into work yet or not. Sunny's the man. Sonny's the one. Time will tell. This next question also coming from the YouTube chat. I missed your name.
Starting point is 00:42:49 Have you determined Halloween costumes yet? So Nicole wants to be a minion. Awesome. Very cool. And she's that's very fitting for her. Ila wants to do descendants, which none of you guys are going to know what that is, but it's a Disney movie now with, it's like real people pretending to be the princesses,
Starting point is 00:43:07 and it's kind of funky as far as their outfits. They don't look quintessentially like the princesses and the villains. So we have found those. I am Maleficent. and T.J. and all them are involved as well because we always kind of do it together. I'm not sure what Dale might be. We could end up trying to dress him up like Captain Hook.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I feel a little loud that. How do you like that? It'd feel like he's learning this for the first time right here. This is one of the situations where you just tell them right beforehand so we don't have a whole lot of time to change our moments. There is. Go put it on. Don't do it that way.
Starting point is 00:43:43 What to hell? Because the other options are even worse. It's like you could be this weird guy with the blue hair. You know that movie that she watches where they're singing all the time? She should be great. I thought it's going to be an old man. We did find. We found one of those silicone masks while we were traveling.
Starting point is 00:44:00 We got an Instagram ad. So we had to just indulge ourselves. Just a random old dude. Yeah. And he's got like holes in his wrinkles. And Dale's like, I just want to wear this and see how I feel going out in public without my own face. Yeah. Speaking of.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Like for Halloween or just in general? Keep up. For Halloween. On a random Tuesday. He might show up to find this guy in that day. So he might show up to find this guy in that. So he plays out. Speaking of an old man, Dale did an impression of himself last week.
Starting point is 00:44:29 Oh, yes. Going, driving around Moresville and saying, all of this used to be farmland. And I wanted to ask you about that. It's constant. It's constant. And so the last time we were in the car, who was with us? History list. Andrew, were you in the car with us?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Who was driving with us? No. Didn't you say it was Stephen? Oh, Stefan. So we're driving, and he literally told us to both be quiet so he could finish his old man's story. You don't understand there was cattle right here where the target was. I'm like, oh, you're not done? There's a barn.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Actually, I'm thinking about this now. When we were driving back from the Sim, he was doing the same thing. It was like, yeah, this used to be an old phone. This road wasn't even there. This is where I went this way, and that building wasn't there. This was one lane. Then they put a turn lane in. Yeah, I do the same thing, honestly.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Really? Yeah, because I've lived here for 20 plus years. Oh, okay. So I've seen it develop too. It's changed a lot since I've moved here, but he's, when he grew up behind Sam's, or like, close to Sam's, and he remembers none of that being there. It was just a big old field, so he's definitely seen a change card of it. But we all get to hear about it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:45:40 It's good. It's good for his mind, right? I don't know. I'm new to the area, so it's nice to know what's changed. Well, if you want a tour. I'm getting live texts. on my phone, one of my friends, Kevin, and one of these group texts that we're
Starting point is 00:45:50 part of says that Ask Amy might be the best thing that's happened to the podcast. Awesome. Nice. I read a lot of praise. Yeah. Thanks for that, Kevin. William wants to know how can he hang out with all of us, and I thought that's what we were doing right here on Ask Amy Live. Yeah, we're hanging. Do you mean you want to have a beer? Is that what you're saying?
Starting point is 00:46:09 I don't know. I'm not sure, but I feel like isn't that what we're doing right now? Yeah, kind of is. Yeah. Let's see. Next question coming from John on Facebook. Amy, what's the best practical joke you think you've played on Dale? Oh, I don't know. Telling him we were pregnant
Starting point is 00:46:23 with the second kid kind of felt like he thought it was a practical joke. He was... Get out of here. Labbergasted. Yeah, I feel... Well, we were really trying. That was a bit of a surprise.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Oh, you're not kidding. Yeah. I videotaped and he's like, I have a t-shirt on Ila that says, Big sister and he goes I remember this video sister he's like how do you know it's a girl? I'm like she's the sister yeah yeah yeah yeah I was
Starting point is 00:46:55 he was like out yeah yeah yeah I don't I don't otherwise try to play pranks on him I have heard too many stories about him and his buddies doing practical jokes like really gnarly stuff so I don't get I don't want to be on the receiving end of that you sent me a few ideas like a few months ago yeah you remember those wait we're gonna have to you're gonna have to you're supposed to not tell that's that's the whole point
Starting point is 00:47:17 That's where the joke part comes in I will say he doesn't know what it is Yeah Not so much a practical joke But if he knows we're gonna He might get us first That's dangerous The paranoia is the joke alone
Starting point is 00:47:28 Oh Lord Not so much a practical joke But when she surprised me On the podcast With we're leaving Right after you get up from the table To go to Key West Was an awesome
Starting point is 00:47:41 Oh yes I bet it was cool Yeah That will never be able to be replicated. Nope. That was a good one. We got time for one more question and, you know, your birthday week is next week. What's the big? I know you, y'all have been doing stuff throughout the year, but we are leaving a get for another trip this week. We're taking the kids. Nice. And Kelly and her whole fan are going. So we're going to have another, more of a family oriented. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:10 I'm going to just over the next, I think over the next six days, I'm going to really, I mean, I really wanted to try to focus on making the most of those days with my two girls, with our girls. And so I feel like I've kind of gotten to this point in the year. And we've had a lot of fun, and since we didn't have to broadcast, we were able to kind of free up and do some different things. and but I'm just they've kind of been more self-serving or me and Amy have done a lot of things together and just really have been missing the girls
Starting point is 00:48:52 and wanting to try to make some memories with them so the next six days we're going somewhere that we can do that and but honestly man for my birthday man I don't want to do anything I don't I want to relax. I feel like this is going to bite
Starting point is 00:49:10 me in that ass. It isn't. Because we're going to go down. You have video proof. I can't. I can't stress this enough. I have like series of the video proof from this. We've talked about this all year. It feels like. Nothing. I want you know what? You know what? I'll tell you. All right. So if you want something,
Starting point is 00:49:26 if you want me to do something, you want something to happen? I want something. All right. So if me and Amy could go to dinner. That'd be it. Yeah, I've got a babysitter coming over for us to do that. We're going down to the beach.
Starting point is 00:49:41 So it's also fall break for Ila next week. Oh, Alice Fall break. His birthday's in the middle of the week. And then Nicole's is actually on Saturday. Hers is right after his. Yeah. So that's another thing is like it's hard for me to
Starting point is 00:49:53 it's hard for me to get all up on a podium about my birthday. I want this. I want that. Because Nicole's birthday is two days after mine. And I don't want to, I mean, I don't want to burn Amy with all these responses.
Starting point is 00:50:09 abilities and she's going to try her hardest to make sure that Nicole feels celebrated. You know, we had... She's a little bit easier. Yeah, but we have put some, we have to create some pretty high standards with Ila's birthdays. And so I want the focus to be there. And I'm content, man. I have had a wonderful year. Nice.
Starting point is 00:50:36 And so I'm, I'm. It's totally good to go. If me and Amy can go eat at a dinner somewhere, that would be perfect. I want it to be from here on that, man. I just want it to be simple. I have run hard and raised to all the hell. Amen. Then that's probably some people in the YouTube chat, Eric and Michael, are suggesting day drinking.
Starting point is 00:51:08 I don't know if that's going to. Do you do that? No, you do do that. We're at the age where we do that and go to bed and sleep for 10 hours and we're still hung over. Hell yeah. Ugh. All right. There's one more.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Amy, we were just a follow up from last week's Ash Jr. Favorite cheese? Favorite cheese? Somehow we got on that. No, no, no. Oh, man, I really like cheese. Don't answer. Don't answer you.
Starting point is 00:51:37 So what's that cheese? getting in the, what's it called? I don't know the name of it. Oh shit. He's been buying this cheese. It's a name I can't really like off top remember. She's been buying. I can get in my app or.
Starting point is 00:51:49 Get in there. We got to know. Well, I mean. It's from Whole Foods. Okay. It's a specific. So I don't get it very often because I don't drive all the way down there to do that. It comes in these little scubes and the girls will eat a couple pieces for, you know, it's like awesome to toss.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Cubs is the perfect shape for cheese. And I, I, and it's just a flavor. It's so good. It's a lot like a parmesan cheese because it's got like a little salt flex in it. And it's white. So there's that. It's sitting right in the middle of the fruit. They set it right there on the end cap.
Starting point is 00:52:18 So that's how I find it. But I wanted to get everybody the name of this because I've been talking about it. Got to go try it. Folks, you can send in the most thoughtful, thoughtfully crafted question, but nothing's going to top. What's your favorite cheese? Yeah. What's your favorite cheese? I love cheese.
Starting point is 00:52:34 I think just like good sharp cheddar is my favorite cheese. Yeah. Chat, what's your favorite cheese? Just fire them off. Again, again. Yeah, just let them rip. Yeah. But I like this.
Starting point is 00:52:45 She just started bringing it home, man, not too long ago. I can't find it. But it comes in this little. We have a box at home. And if we don't, I'll put it on my Instagram story. Comes in this little box and it's just cubes and I'll get. Horsh radish cheddar. It's a mild white cheese.
Starting point is 00:53:04 It's in like a little clear box and it's in the produce. so hope food so we'll keep our eyes out for it. It is a lot like parmesan though. It is very dry. It's softer. Yeah. Well, good stuff. That's it. That's it for this week's Ask Amy. All right. Well, everybody's infinity. Hope you all, yeah, hope you all enjoy to ask Amy.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Thanks Amy for coming by and being a part. Everybody loves. Amy, we'll get done. I'll say this so everybody can hear it. We'll get done. And Amy's like, oh, I didn't know if I did good. And I'm like, Amy here's great. Well, I sit here through most of it going. Yeah. Yeah. I don't have anything to add here.
Starting point is 00:53:40 Yeah. But everybody. Or I'm scared to chirp. I appreciate your contributions. Yeah. So everybody. Breathe. Everybody, everybody put, everybody put in the chat right now.
Starting point is 00:53:55 Do you enjoy having Amy on? Do you want Amy to come? Why are you trying to fluff me so much? You know I don't need this. I get embarrassed. I'm seeing a lot of nose. No, I'm joking. At least they're honest.
Starting point is 00:54:07 No. on a delay. We can't see the reactions yet. No, I send my grandparents every single clip that we do and their favorite is when you're on the show. Everybody loves having Amy on the shows, so I'm just trying to encourage her so she gets excited. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:21 But she, we had a funny... Grandparents are my demographic, by the way. We had a funny moment this morning. Oh, there's a ton of yes. Yes. Hell yeah. Amy's, I mean, it is... Amy is awesome. It's like a Wall Street to do. It is crazy. The chat is blowing up.
Starting point is 00:54:37 Yeah. Yeah. That's good. He wants the cheese. He wants me to go get the cheese. Yes, that's right. Yeah. Tell him how great you are.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Also, don't forget the cheese. Don't forget the grapes or the cheese. She gets a little bit nervous. And this morning we're at the counter, the kitchen counter. And she's like, so what are we going to talk about today? And I was like, I don't know. We're going to wing it. I was like, really?
Starting point is 00:54:59 Yeah. She's like, really? I was like, yeah. Might even talk about cheese. He always says that. And I get here and he's got pages of handwritten notes. I said that. When did you do that?
Starting point is 00:55:09 When did you do that? Two pages worth of thoughts I had. Who's working hard this morning? It's like showing up for the quiz and your best friends studied way harder than they told you they did. They're not willing to share the answers. That's what that feels like. Well, you passed.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Thanks. I think so. All right. All right. Thank you, Exfinity, for supporting us here at the Dirtymo Media and the Dale Jr. download and supporting our Ask Junior or Ask Amy part of the show.
Starting point is 00:55:32 And this will be on DJD Reloaded as well. So if you want, you know, if somebody didn't see it or whatever, you want to hear it again, this will be part of our Thursday show. But I appreciate everybody tuning in. Thank you again, Amy, for being here and making this show, enriching this show, and making it so much better. And everybody just loves you being on as proof by the chat and the YouTube there. So, all right, we'll see y'all later.
Starting point is 00:55:57 Hope you tune in. We had a lot of fun. Amy was on since we opened the show. So she was on the whole show today, which will be out later. And we cover Kansas, talk about Dega. everything else. As always, another great round of Ask Junior. Thank you to all the fans who send in their questions this week. We appreciate you tuning in to today's episode of DJD Reloaded. And a big thanks to Jeffrey Kessler and Cletus McFarlane for joining us. And of course, to all of you for listening.
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