The Dale Jr. Download - Introducing Herm & Schrader: NASCAR’s Champions, WoO World Finals, & An A$$-Chewing From Mike Helton

Episode Date: November 14, 2024

The first episode of Herm & Schrader is here! Join hosts Kenny Wallace and Kenny Schrader as they bring you laughter, heartfelt moments, and all the stories you’ve been waiting for. From the latest NASCAR news and dirt racing updates to personal stories only these two can tell, this episode has it all.Catch their full recap of Championship Weekend, including Joey Logano’s third championship win, Justin Allgaier’s hard-fought Xfinity Series title, and all the controversies fans are buzzing about. Switching gears from NASCAR, they dive into the action at the Dirt Racing World Finals and reflect on Bobby Allison’s legacy and the grit it takes to race at the highest levels. They also explore what it takes to move between different racing series, highlighting the camaraderie in motorsports and the importance of following NASCAR’s rules.Plus, it wouldn’t be Herm & Schrader without reliving some classic moments, like Schrader’s wild motorcycle trip to Las Vegas! Wrapping up with a thoughtful tribute to veterans and advice on embracing change, this episode is sure to make you laugh—and hit you in the feels. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The following is a production of Dirtymo Media. Welcome into another episode of DJD Reloaded. We were going to do something different. No idea that a tradition was going to be started. The racing world is Connor Zillard's Oyster. Is he truly the next NASCAR prodigy? Hey, you did a cartwheel down the stands. Holding your cooler, your arm never bent.

It was like watching an Olympian at its, and it's five. Hey, everybody, it's Dale Jr. And I'm introducing the first episode of Herman Schrader. We are so excited to have these two partner together and be on the Dirty Mo Media platform. Make sure, though, if you want to listen, you can listen anywhere you get your podcast, but you can also subscribe to Kenny Wallace's YouTube page. We're excited they're here. It's going to be a lot of fun.

Here's the first episode. Herman Schrader on the Dirty Mo Media platform. From the Middle of America in St. Louis, Missouri starts right now. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm looking at Kenny Schrader right now. Do you drink on the show? I mean, yeah. How in the world did we agree to do a podcast?

I like spending time with you. That makes me happy. Well, it's all about making you happy. We're always honest. We don't know that we're not in trouble already, you know? And sometimes truthful. What makes you think you're not a little different? You're weird good.

Herman Schrader. Well, Schrader, here we are, buddy. Our very first Herman Schrader show. How are you doing? I'm doing fine. You're making me nervous because you've got all this TV, social media experience. And I just came up from the shop, and I'm supposed to try to sound as smart as you do. Hey, I don't want to hear that because you did one of the most famous shows in TV history.

And that was that Monday Night show. That's why they took it off. Yeah. We did that for 10 years, though. Do you believe that we did that thing for 10 years? It was that good. Inside Next Hill Cup is what the first name was. Yeah, I think it was Winston Cup when it started, wasn't it?

Hell, I don't know. But that's not what we're talking about. Yeah, but it's still a great conversation. You look good. Listen, everybody, whether you are on Dirty Moe podcast or you're on the Kenny Wallace show on YouTube, Shreder looks good. This is our very first show. We're super excited.

So let's get right to it, Kenny. We want our show to be a little different than everybody else. Sure it will be. Well, they always say we're happy people. So we might as well start out being a little happy. So the first segment of the show is fun. Makes me laugh already. So we got this segment called Crack Schrader.

And we're going to take your jokes like we're going to do right now, and we're going to read them out. We know Kenny Schrader is a happy person, but he also can be very serious. And sometimes Kenny Schrader does not like, you know, to be silly. I don't remember being very serious. I don't think of myself as very serious. But everybody's jokes have been like, you know, they're decades old, but I'm anxious to hear what we have. All right. we're going to try to crack shreder we're going to use your jokes we're going to tell everybody your

name you're going to hashtag crack schrader okay but here we go all right the very first one from the larry stanaker i hope i'm saying that right larry stainiker all right here we go kenny i was on my way to vote the other day and saw so many signs on lawns that i got confused and i voted for a realtor it's you know i i i have We got to, instead of crack, you know, I don't put that in the cute, in the cute joke category. I like that. Yeah, it's voted for a realtor. I write in for a realtor.

That's pretty cool. Okay, this one can fly over our heads if we don't really pay attention. Well, for me, you're smarter than me. Ryan Clark, Ryan Clark, here we go. I got mugged by six dwarfs last night. Not happy. Happy wasn't there. I got that one.

Okay, you laughed a little bit. No, I laughed that you thought it was going to go over our heads. We got him. We got Schrader a little bit. Okay. The last one. We're going to do three. That's pretty good.

It's pretty good. All right. The third one. We're still laughing. Okay, here we go. From Ryan Clark again, Ryan's got some good ones. Thank you, Ryan. I have a lot of jokes about unemployment, but none of them work.

That's a play on words. That's a play on words. It's official. The number one joke that got Schrader laughing a little bit was, I got mugged by six dwarfs last night. Not happy. That's pretty good. I don't know the dwarf's names.

but I know happy was one. You know the dwarf's names? I don't. I really don't. And I should. I know my wife is going to be mad at me for not. Where's Anne at? You know, during one of these shows, we will have the wives on.

Great. And yeah. All right, everybody. Let's get right to it. I would say the show officially starts right now, even though it's started. Kenny, you done some things over the weekend. And this is where the show really starts. It's like, what are we done over the weekend?

So Kenny, I know what you did over the weekend. It was pretty wild. What did you do over the weekend? Well, last two weekends, we shoved off a week ago, Saturday, on a motorcycle, and a trike. Good thing it was a trike. to go back out to Las Vegas for the Seema show and the APEC show. I'd go out there because of Federated Outer Parts.

So we're out there. And first night woke up in Dillon, Colorado, with six, seven inches of snow on my bike. Oh, my lord. That was kind of exciting the next morning for the first couple hours. But, you know, thankfully it was a trike and not a bike. So we made her running out to Vegas. And the same thing coming back.

We got stuck, stayed a little bit east of Albuquerque. Only went like 50 miles Friday. And it was like a 20 mile. The interstate was just log jammed. There was people out there for 18 hours. I got turned around, ran back down the shoulder to an exit, had to get pushed a couple of times. People, truck drivers pushed me.

It was beautiful. while. It was 40 degrees and sunny, but it gridlocked, you know, just gridlock. Nope, I mean, didn't move at all. I cut through the median at a place where a couple of people had been cutting through, went back, got a hotel and left at 5 o'clock the next morning, and 15 and a half hours, or 15 and quarter hours, 970 miles, pulled in to see the last restart at Phoenix for Justin Alguire to win the Xfinity championship. So that was that week out there in Vegas for a show, but the trip out and the trip back were a lot of fun.

I mean, it was fun on the tri-com. It sounds exciting to me, but I have questions. You and your dear front, Tom Hannock, you guys are always into math. So I hear you. You said quarter hours, and you told me this last night when we were on the phone. You like math, don't you? Well, I just, I don't know.

This is when I'm driving now. I got paid earn percentages my whole life. So, you know, you wind up, you pay a little attention to math. So, yeah. Yeah, but, you know, like we average, why bother with it? I don't know. So we averaged 63 mile an hour. That was what fuel stops and everything.

It won't go real far. It only go about 250 miles on fuel. But it was fun. Had good weather, other than what, it was real bad. The rest of the time it was good. What did you do? Well, hold on. I got to ask you one more thing that inquiring minds want to know.

I know you. And I tell people, it makes Kenny happy. Why don't you get on an airplane and fly to Vegas. Why did you get on your trike? Well, I did get on an airplane flight of Vegas two or three weeks ago. Oh, okay. Yeah, we were out there for the cup race. And I just, I love riding my motorcycle. Now, you know, I look at the weather a little closer next time or plan a little more southern trip before I would do that again. But I just like riding my bike. It's fun. What a journey.

What a journey. And that's what I tell my friends. Kenny Schrader loves riding his motorcycle. I do have to get serious radio on it, though, because it's a pain to keep looking for a channel all time. And especially with big old thick gloves on, and you mess with them knobs and stuff is just. So I'm going to have that for takeoff from another trip.

So one last thing, and I'm going to get to what I did. But yours is way more interesting. As you get the trikes stuck in the median, you said truckers help push you out. Did they ever go, Schrader? Is that you? No, no. I just don't run along. Full face helmet arm and everything. No.

They wouldn't think he'd be that stupid anyway. Oh, now, come on. They called us dumb and dumber when we would ride on the motorcycle. Yeah. Okay, so what did I do? Which one was dumb? Yeah, well, I'm sure you're dumb and I'm dumber. We both have our moments.

We both have our moments. We can switch that title every once. If it switches. What did I do over the weekend? Well, every once in a while, we got to go to weddings. And the wedding was a good reception. I went, but the big thing for me was when I went to my closet, and I don't know if any of you out there,

besides, you know, straighter and myself, but I go to my closet and it, and it's like the suits that I do have, there's dust on the tops. You know, so you got to blow the dust off, right? Yeah. And I'm like, and I put these pants on, and they look like emcing hammer. I mean, they're baggy. You know, I got these, I got these skinny bird legs. I said, okay. So I go up to South County Mall, and that mall, it's getting old.

maybe I should have went to West County on Manchester Road. But still, I went to men's warehouse and men's warehouse. I just finally had to do it, Kenny. It's one of these big boy things that's like, what do I got to do? You know, you got to take the trash out. You got to pay the taxes. And every once in a man's got to buy himself clothes. And you'll love this because you laughed at me about this last time.

So I go in there and, you know, in men's clothing, the pants are like 34 and they skip right over and they go to 36. Well, like you said, I said to you one day, I said, boy, these 34 pants, and you said, oh, you were 34, but 35s are better, huh? So I found these, I found these nice slacks nowadays. You can buy them at what you think size and they stretch another inch. So I bought, yeah, I bought 34s and they stretch. So, hey, I wear 34s, but they do stretch. So I got all new clothes and got my closet straightened out. Much more lamer than what you did.

And that's what I did. I don't know what my suit situation is. Every now and then, she just buys one. But I know I got one in a motorhome. Why I have a suit in a motorhome? I guess, you know, sometimes when you're down in Florida, We used to always be at Daytona. You got to have a suit for something, but why?

I mean, I'm sure I need to check the dust darn it. In the motorhome is probably okay. Anna, your wife, she truly takes care of you. And I think that's awesome. There's so much more to say about Ann later on. But all right, let's get right to it, Kenny. That was fun. We told some jokes.

We talked about what we've been up to. and it's showtime. This is where it's going to get, it's going to get rough. I thought that was always part of the show, but okay, go ahead. All right, everybody. I'm still confused to what we're doing, but go ahead. We'll get it. All right, Kenny.

It's the NASCAR hot topics, my friend, and Lord knows that we have some hot topics. So we got about five, and let's start like this. And listen, I tell everybody that Schrader is, more centered than I am. Anytime I struggle with a topic, I come to you and you laid out for me. So we know Joey Lagano won the race, won the championship. But Kenny, there is a firestorm right now. It's not even brewing. It is here. NASCAR is getting destroyed right now because everybody is saying Joey Legano is not a deserving champion. It's something we cannot ignore. It's real. What is your thoughts?

on that. I would like to know how anyone can say he's not a deserving champion. He positioned himself in the top 16. They ran three more races, eliminated four.

He was in the top 12. They ran three more, eliminated four. He was in the top eight. Three more. He was in the top four, and he beat the other three at the race. He was the champion. So what you said just now is in the business world.

Like you and I, we do talk to Roger Penske. We do talk to John Menard. We do talk to executives. People that are, you know, they got it together. But these fans, they're out of breath. They're saying now that, you know, why was Kyle Larson not in it? And now, listen, what you said I agree with, and we could have stopped the whole segment there. But for the sake of all the fans that are listening, I got to draw it out a little bit more.

All right. Wait one second here. You know, I know very little about other sports. But I watched, I didn't watch start of the Phoenix race yesterday because I've, watched the end of the Can City football game. What a game. I can't even tell you who they were playing. I can't tell you who they were playing.

I just knew they were undefeated so far, you know, this year. And by no means, should they have won that game yesterday? I mean, yes, they blocked a field goal with one second left, and that saved them. but they can go undefeated for the year. They can win every game for the year and then lose the first playoff game, and they're done, right? Al Arson can be the fastest car and not be consistent enough to make it.

I find our new, and I was not a fan of the playoff system when it was announced. That's bull. It's supposed to be whoever gets the most points for the year. Oh, I watched those cutoff race. I watch all the races, but those cutoff races,

man, they're nail-biting because you got to perform when you got to perform. You got to bring your A-game then. And that's, Joey brought his A-game and got it done when he needed to. I got nothing to add. You said that so good. So let's,

Let's get in. Now, don't laugh. Okay. Let's get into the psyche of these fans. Okay, all I'm seeing, okay, all I'm seeing. See, that's because you, I don't know or, I don't, I didn't even heard about that because I don't, no, I don't, social media doesn't exist to me other than our Facebook page. And so I don't, I don't know what everybody's saying. Okay.

That's, that's fair. And I respect that. You and Rusty are on the same page. But when it comes to something you two want to promote, you're looking out to me. Hey, Herman, put this on Facebook. Okay. Well, I know how to do our page now.

Yeah, and you're good at it. I know that one day that I told you wanted to do the Twitter stuff, and you put it on my phone and you said, you got to follow this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. And I went about two days, and I got rid of that stuff because I couldn't stay. My phone keeps me busy enough. I didn't need to add all that stuff to it. Fair point.

Fair point. You're a busy man, and I always always. Well, everybody's busy. Yeah, and our phones are right there. I mean, I can work all day on my race car. You can. I can. We go to the racetracks.

We race. But yet, we still got time in between, you know, but anyway, here's what I want to ask you. I got this text. Now I'm going to cover the name. I'm going to cover the name. Well, it don't matter anyway, but let's kind of look at it. I got this text, okay? And it says, check this out for all those folks saying Larson should be the champ

and the system sucks. So here's one that says Christopher Bell should be the champion. Chase Elliott should be second. Here's the bottom line. the fans don't realize it but they're all arguing amongst themselves what they're all saying is that they want the old system back they want this system uh and the crazy thing Kenny is that people are mad at the Alex Bowman situation and I want to hear your opinion on that so Alex Bowman is found so light he I'm not saying he's illegal but you could use that word

Alex Bowman is so light, cannot go through tech that your old boss, Rick Hendrick. Rick came out and said, hey, our bad, we really messed up. We're not even going to appeal this. So that puts Joey in. So the fans are mad about that. I want to hear what you've got to say about that. Right? There's rules.

You know, there's rules. and you got to play by the rules. I would think for sure that, you know, they didn't send that car out light, that, you know, something came off. Well, they had video something coming off it when it hit one of them berms or whatever. That was at the Roval, I think.

Yeah, yeah, that was at the Roval. Yeah, so they had video something coming off it. But it doesn't make any difference. It's, you got to be, you got to wait. this much after race. Yes, Joey deserved to be in because his car was right. One of the cars in front of them wasn't.

So... Do you think the fans have a problem with Joey Legano being in because he falls underneath that Rusty Wallace's mouth, he, Denny Hamlin's mouth feed, Joey... I mean, the fans get riled up over Joey Lagano because he says what he says

and he means what he says. Do you think it's because Joey's so popular? Maybe if it would have been Ross Chastain that got in, we wouldn't be having this talk. Oh, I don't care about now that. I mean, it's just Joey's the one that got in. Right. He got in, and he won championship.

So, you know, let's get over it. Maybe your guy will win next year. But I don't know. Joey Logano's made me happy from when he very first showed up, just because he always smiling most all the time. I mean, 95% of the time. And he just, he seems normal to me. He's been great.

He's been really good when I've talked to him and stuff. I just, well, now I like most all those guys, you know. I mean, and most all of them deserve to be there. But I'm a big fan of Ryan Blaney's and big fan of the captain. So when we're at the shop yesterday, watching those last however many laps, it's like I couldn't make up my mind who I wanted to win. You know, I just, the part that made me the happiest over the weekend is we got three good championship races with no controversy as far as somebody ran into somebody else or somebody brought out of you or somebody did this or that. just had good races.

Okay, we're going to put this to bed, but one more follow-up. So we talked about Joey Lugano gets put in because of Alex Bowman being disqualified at Charlotte at the Roval. Now, I think the other thing that got the fans in an uproar, which you know, you and I have talked about when we tested the Herman Schrader show, but the fans have not heard this yet. the fans cannot understand the Martinsville deal. You know, listen, you know, Christopher Bell gets... It was a lot going on. Okay, so let's finish this up because, as Larry McReynolds say, we're getting ready to beat it like a dead horse.

So the two pivotal changes in this championship that's got the fans crazy right now is number one, Joey gets in because... because of Alex Bowman Dekute. Okay, now we're going to go to the finale. They go to Martinsville and Chevrolet manipulates the race. It's just a fact. They've talked to all the automakers. The drivers have been talked to.

How do you explain to the fans that, look, NASCAR didn't do that? I mean, any common person realizes that NASCAR didn't tell the automakers to have Austin, Dillon, and Ross Chastain hold the field up. So what do we say to the fans that just, they're just mad? Because Christopher Bell did not get in.

Yeah, I was thinking about that when Christopher was leading Phoenix a bunch of that. They said, ooh, this is not going to be pretty if he was to win this race and, you know, could be the champion. Although I've got to believe that he is going to get his championship. but you say that and they're hard to get. I mean, you see those guys. You know, you just, you can't,

I don't know what the rule was they came up with a couple years ago, but, you know, how you just can't manipulate the race like that. And it definitely was. So, let's see. Bubba's letting off. So Christopher, can pass him. Team Toyota. But go ahead. Yes. He's letting off because he has a

tire issue. But, you know, they have all the telemetry off the cars now. So they know what's going on. And Christopher passes him and he Hail Mary's in there and he gets loose and gets in the fence. Well, instead of into the wall, instead of checking up, turn the left and coming down,

which I know this sounds easy, and it's a whole lot easier from the living room to watch this stuff than it is in the car. But he gassed it up and rode the wall to carry his speed around there. Well, he didn't really have to worry about Bubba

going to passing back. Bubba wasn't going to pass him back. But when he gassed it up and rode that wall, that's been in the rulebook from about a week after Ross Chains little deal a couple years ago. So you can't do that. Now, you can be real mad at the Chevroletes,

and they got fined for holding up running block for Bowman. Who was it? Yep. No, you said it exactly right. They blocked the Bowman. But Bowman, but Bowman didn't do anything wrong.

He's out there running as hard as he can, which isn't hard enough. And the other guys ran block for him behind him. They got fined. They got fine. So I don't know. First off, we're not going to make everybody happy. We're not going to make all the drivers happy,

the team owners happy, the crew's happy or the fans happy. But I was pretty proud of what NASCAR did and came down and said, this is not going to happen. I thought they did good there. And let's go over that, everybody, what Kenny's talking about. So NASCAR said, okay, we're going to find these guys $100,000 each. And you're thinking that's not a big deal, but they find them 50 points. And there's no telling how that dropped Austin, Dillon, and Ross Chastain.

That 50 points, what did they cost them in the points? You and I know there's a good points payout at the end of the year. And then they got rid of their crew chiefs, their spotters, their team managers. And NASCAR said, Kenny, and I want you to comment on this, NASCAR said, we're not penalizing the drivers because the drivers are doing what their bosses are telling them to do. There is video out there as clear as day. Of all people, SVG spotter said, okay, Ryan Blaney hit you in the butt.

The next time he comes around, you remember that. And then the spotter says, Chevrolet told me to tell you that. So what's your take on NASCAR's decision to not penalize the drivers? Or, you know, let them race at Phoenix. Well, I mean, I think they did exactly what they need to do. I mean, the drivers, you know, okay, we bubble that up and Chastain and Dillon led up to stay behind him, bubble it off so he could get past. And you're just a contract labor in there.

You know, you're just driving the car and you kind of do what comes down, comes over the radio, or comes from upper management. Ben, it's your owner or your manufacturer, you know, who's also telling your owner, which is telling the crew chief, man, you know, I've been out for a while. and for the last however many years we were there, we weren't running in that group. But that group is, you know,

there's a lot of stuff going on. I think NASCAR, I think they did really good on it. I just got to, I keep saying I got to put this to bed, but I keep thinking what everybody's thinking. Then put it to bed. Don't worry about what everybody's thinking because we can't control what they're thinking

or change what they're thinking most time. And we already know you can't make anybody happy anymore, period, right now. Man, put that on a repeat reel right there. I mean, what you just said is so true. And no matter what, no matter what, the teacher of school is going to be the bad person, the police are the bad person, and NASCAR, they're in trouble for things they didn't even do. They didn't make out. Go ahead.

I get, I got, I had one person in Vegas at the Apex show. We were talking. He said, man, I sure liked it when you guys were racing. It's just not good anymore. And I said, I just, and it's like, tell me, tell me what's not good about it. I don't think it's ever been better. Guys are running so hard, the whole race. They're so close.

There's so many cars on the lead lap. Now, I know we get the lucky dog, which I wasn't. fan of that, but I like that too. Now, I mean, NASCAR makes a lot decisions, and they don't make very many, they don't shoot off the hip very, very often.

They really gets thought about. You know, it's easy to criticize them. I know one thing, I would not want to be in their situation at all, but I agree with their decisions most all the time. All right. Well, we're going to put

And I don't play with them anymore. I don't have to agree. Well, okay, look, you and I have been in trouble with NASCAR. I was never in trouble. Yeah, I was never in trouble. I'll remind you. First of all, I had to, you know, NASCAR. Maybe a couple times.

So my run in with NASCAR, and the reason I'm talking about this topic is, Kenny, there's some people out there that they just think wrong. They're like, oh, Wallace and Schrader, they're being paid by NASCAR. Well, let me just straighten you all out right now and tell you that we're not paid by anybody. This is Dirty Mo Media and this is Shrader and mine show. And we say the way- We're not getting paid to do this? Maybe we will.

Who knows? Okay. We'll call Dale Jr. if we don't. He'll straighten out. Send some more vodka. Yeah. Well, there we go. Okay, Dale Jr.

That's all we need. We don't need money. We need- It's all we need. I love it. We called him a couple of years ago. We were doing play days out of federate. We were in Virginia and called him up and said, I got a problem.

What's that? I said, well, we're up here in Virginia. And hands out of vodka. And he says, really? He said, that's your problem? He said, I was getting ready to call the plane. I thought we were going to have to send a plane for you or why. money or something. I said, no, we're just out of vodka. Now, we don't need it tonight. We don't need

a night, but we're going to need it pretty quick. So, yeah, pretty important bargaining tool. Yeah, so it approved everybody and, you know, rough ourselves up a little bit. I was in Phoenix, of all places years ago, and myself and John And Reddy get into it on what was then to back straight away and you know I feel like I'm down and John comes down on me you know this story smokes my right front and I'm a my right front is smoking in the corners but it's good down those tradeaways NASCAR's telling me pull in and I'm like I ain't pulling in so then like yeah right you're already laughing how'd that work out for you yeah but we were on your plane I think on the way home or we was on with Andy Petrie so

like four or five laps later, I decide, okay, I'm in trouble because now they're going to, back in the day, they're going to pull your scorecard, sort of speak. We're going to quit scoring you, meaning you don't matter. You're not in the race. So I do it. They do the Fender. Now my race is ruined, and the race is over, and I park my car. And one of my crew members comes to me, I'm not even out of the car. And he says, NASCAR wants to see you at the trailer. And the next thing I said, I should have never said, I looked at my crew, remember I said, you tell NASCAR, you never saw me. Kenny, I get to the FBI, the private airport, and guess who the first person I run into when I go to return my rental car keys, Bill France Jr. He looked at me. Bill France looked at me and he says,

boy, you're in trouble. I got on your plane or it was Andy Petrie and I never talked all the way home. And then I received, I received a call from Mike Helton, Kenny. Mike's probably going to hear about this right now. We know NASCAR executives are listening to us right now. Mike Helton chewed my ass out so hard. And the one thing I remember Mike saying to me,

I don't want to be the one to ruin your. career. But I will. But I will if I have to. And so he said you're going to pay a $10,000 fine. Kenny, it was around Thanksgiving, no, it was around Halloween. I couldn't even, I couldn't even go out with the girls. So Mike calls back the next day. He's making me suffer. He said, I've thought about it. You're going to write a check for $7,500. So, you know, the end of this story is for all you fans that think me and Schrader are yes people for NASCAR. My hand was shaken. The Kenny Wallace Racing checkbook wrote a $7,500 check.

I took it to the last race, Miami Homestead, Xfinity Race, Bush Grand National Race. I handed to Mike Kelton along with this note that my daughter wrote. as I'm handing this letter yeah as I'm handing the seven thousand five hundred dollar fine to Mike out and I said oh here's a letter from my eight year old daughter and she says Mike Kelton you are ignorant Ranimous Moosehead he laughed help laugh so loud he goes I am I'm filing this way I'm gonna throw I'm gonna show Bill France so so you I'm gonna remind you the one you got in trouble they took your hard card after Telalega.

What was your story? Didn't they take your hard card? No, I didn't get a hard card. I got in trouble at Darlington one time. What was that about? I got Morgan Shepard and I got together twice that year. Kept running in each other.

I didn't see it that way. But at Darlington, he got, I mean, I got wrecked. we was 80 laps in the pits southern 500 you know hot and I'm sitting in the car and mr. Hendrick come over and you know you want some water stuff no I want to stay in here and stay hot and mad I got him I got him the second lap out second lap back out and I And I went and they told me in the trailer after the race, but I didn't stay for the race.

I didn't stay. I left to go home. And Elmo Langley called me that night and said, oh, this is not good. I said, yeah, I thought about that. So I had to go into the trailer. And this is earlier, you know, I mean, back when you could get by with some stuff, you know. It was later on your deal. Yeah.

But I told them that it was an. accident. I went through the whole thing. And then I fessed up. I said, no. I tried to park him. And I got a 10,000 hour fine. But I probably shouldn't say it, but that was back in the day. This before Mike was there. Yeah. And yeah. It was a Beatty and Richter. They're both dead now. So that's okay. I could probably say it. But Beatty and Richter. So they said, okay, we'll give you $3,000 a week off if you don't try to kill him. And so we never had any run-ins for three weeks. They sent me a bill for $1,000, and I threw it away and never heard any more about it.

Now, I'm sure they took it from someplace. Yeah. But, you know, it's a little different now. They can't do that kind of stuff. Yeah. No, it's not a little different. It's a lot different. It's a lot different.

You know, Mike Helt once told me, he said, it's true. We used to judge by the hip. But Kenny, with all the infrared lasers and going, I mean, everything is ridiculously fair now to the maximum peak. So I think everything is so fair. Pit roads, you know, pit road speeds now. Boy, man, it's black and white. It's black and white. You go up there and look at the system.

It shows you exactly how fast you were in that segment. I mean, that used to be a little iffy. Yeah, so the bottom line is, everybody is Kenny Schrader and myself, we've been roughed up by NASCAR, so we don't want to hear it. All right, moving on. Moving on. I know the next one is pretty emotional to you and I. This was a fan favorite championship. After 14 years of trying, he used to be Little Gator, but now he's a man, Justin Allgaier.

man for a while. He's one of the senior, well, he's probably a senior guy out there now, isn't he? Oh, by far. Yeah. Yeah.

Justin Augar wins the Xfinity championship, and it was incredible. Kenny, you know what happened, but you said earlier that you got home for the last two laps, just for the fans,

he pulled out a line on that restart. And you and I about gotten an argument on this. Well, it's, yeah, yesterday, but once I've convinced you, you were wrong. Right. I got to show you, I got to show you this. But you keep talking.

Let me find a picture. Okay, let me, let me set it up with the fingers. Kelly sent me this yesterday. No, Earnhardt. Okay. I'm going to prep everybody. It is a photo of Justin Agar being a baby. And here it is.

Just put it right up. Wait a minute. Yeah, right there. Perfect. Okay. You. You, you, Joe Justin,

Jr. and I. Yeah. And I bet he is 14 years old. And then when you say, you know, emotional stuff, yeah. Well, this is, I mean,

you've known them forever also. But this is, this is where I go back with Justin. Bring a, look at that. Yeah. Everybody on podcast right now, this is Justin maybe six years old in a little quarter midget. Yeah, in a quarter midget.

And your sponsor, A.C. Delcoe sponsoring him. So that's pretty incredible. I remember when, I mean, when Dorothy, which, oh, we got a daughter named Dorothy. Yeah. And Mike, you know, they tried to have a baby for a long time. when they first got pregnant with Justin. So, yeah, I've known him for a while, but he's a good kid. Not a kid.

Yeah. Yeah, so, you know, I think this is an emotional win for you and I, because a lot of the fans know him as, you know, Justin Agar, and you just showed everybody how far back you go. Well, go ahead. Well, the words that Jr. had to say afterwards about how important he was to the company and how all his sponsors have been with him and stuff. He's just good people.

Yeah, and on the business end, besides Justin being a great little driver, I mean, Brandt has been there the longest. And they're like family to the all guys. Brant's right there in Springfield, Illinois, somewhere in Illinois. Okay, let's get right to that race just a little bit. You and I, I mean, we didn't start to argue. I was just telling you what happened and you, you'd shoot my butt out for about two seconds. I said, Kenny, you were on the motorcycle.

Oh, so you're saying I deserved a butt chewing? Well, I'm just because all that black tops down there don't mean you can go right down there any time you want. You have to go past the start line. Okay. It's one of those rules. Like if you don't weigh enough, you get thrown out, you know? Those damn rules. Okay, so let's just quickly, the night before, Corey Heim in the truck is going for the championship, gets busted for the same thing.

And like you say, Kenny, I'm just painting a pitcher right now. Then I'll have you respond. Okay, we got all this asphalt. Okay, but you have to stay in line before you pass to start finish line. Once you pass to start finish line, then you can do whatever you want to do. Well, Corey Heim, he gets busted for that. He pulls out of line. Now the next day, same thing.

Justin Agar pulls out a line and he has to do a drive-through. Well, then he's speeding when he does the drive-through. So Justin comes from almost two laps down to win the championship. So give me your take on, okay, let's play devil's advocate for the fans here because the fans don't believe in rules. Only when it's against their driver, they don't like it. why was NASCAR right? Why didn't they just let him pull out a line?

I know it's a stupid question. Because it's a rule. And you can't, do you remember 190 something? Yeah, yeah. They'll edit us out. A late, late restart at Homestead. And I think, oh, Teddy Musgrave. Eddie Musgrave was in the,

The Mo Par truck. Yeah, well, the Mopar or you, he was in the Mr. Yeah, John, I forgot. Anyway, he pulled out and passed and like, man, they were jumping up and down, excited.

He was going to win the championship. And it's like, oh, no, you're not. And like, next lap around, black flag because it's a rule. And stuff, you, that's, that's, that's something about that has changed in our sport. You used to be able to get by with stuff more than you can now. You know, there's too many, too many cameras.

They're checking everything. And that's good. That's good because they're playing by the rules. And I want to add one more on for the fans. So you just brought a good one up that I forgot about. Teddy Musgrave loses the truck championship. I think it was Teddy. Yeah.

It was. It was. Yeah. And the other one that was not a championship, and I can't wait to see your face when I remind all of us of this one. David Reagan, the Daytona 500, he changes lanes before the – they're coming to green just a couple laps to go, you know, and he changes lanes. And David Reagan and the UPS, number six, you know, he loses the Daytona 500 because he changes lanes.

You know, he's front row outside and goes through. gearbox and comes down before the start finish line. So all right, that rules there. Justin goes on. He's by far the fastest car. He has a bad pit stop. So he really earns this championship to the maximum peak, Kenny. He gets penalized. He makes his laps up. He comes out of the pits like behind Cole Custer and behind Austin Hill and blows by them all and wins. His first championship, and it was a fan favorite. Because, like you said, you know, there was nothing to it. He just, he whipped their much.

Yeah, well, as Junior says that Justin, you know, he just drives so hard. He said he puts himself in some situations every night, makes it hard on himself. But he came through and I think everybody was happy about that. Yeah. And just to add, he is a dirt. racer, protege of Kenny Schrader. So it still goes back. He's not my protege. I've just known him for a long time.

He wanted to be you. It cannot change my mind. He should set his standards a little higher. A lot of drivers around here want to be Kenny Schrader here in St. Louis, Missouri, where the Herman Schrader show is from you. Everybody looks up to you, Kenny. Yeah, okay. So he's got that mentality, kind of like a Kyle Larson.

Justin's going to fill some holes, and maybe he shouldn't, but I think that's from standing on the gas early in his career. Okay, congratulations, Justin Algar, and he wins it. Let's go to the truck series. Finally, this is a little bit like, you know, this time of Jeski just dominates everything in short track asphalt racing. When's the snowball derby? And Kenny, listen to this. he says you know later on in the media center tie majesky says i won the 2000 whatever snowball derby thor sports calls him up and says hey now this is after he wins the snowball derby thor sports

says uh would you like to become an engineer for our truck team so he's he bets on the comment and look at him now can he yeah that's pretty amazing Yeah, he's, you know, it was a good race, you know, and they, the champion, that's what I said earlier. The champion, all three divisions won it, just beat the other guys come that day. There was no big controversies or nothing. I thought it was good. And it's even to make it a smooth week, and I know this show is. not politics, you know, we don't talk about that.

Yep. But you knew it was going to be a good week when we had the presidential election, and the next day, whoever it was, they announced who the president was going to be, and there was no lawsuits, no recounts, no nothing. They just announced. And everything, I mean, we just had four big things happen. You know, the election is really big, but in our world, that Friday, Saturday, Sunday, at Phoenix was big, four big things that just went real smooth.

You bring up a good point. Everything is calm. Yeah, something big is going to happen. Yeah, oh boy, I wonder what it's going to be. It scares me. I don't like hearing that. But you and I are realist and we competed our whole life. It reminds me of when I won some races down at Volusia, I said,

man, Kenny, I can't believe this. And you said, oh, don't worry. It'll end. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, the election goes smooth. We go to Phoenix. The truck race just has a real winner.

The Xfinity race has a real winner. The cup race is the same way. It's a real winner. There was no, you know, NASCAR didn't have to make a decision. So, yeah, all right. So. I text Helton after the Martinsville race. I said, damn, you guys get put in the toughest situation.

you know, through nothing that you did, but you get put in some terrible situations. And I try to explain that to the fans, but they just don't have anybody to be mad at. So it's like, it's kind of like they're looking around. It's like, NASCAR, that's, it's them. I'm like, no, they're not Chevrolet. But, yeah, okay, we are ending Phoenix. And my lord, did we spend a long time. That's okay, though.

It was all good stuff. and Kenny, the next one is a little sad. These are NASCAR hot topics. This is our last NASCAR hot topic. Bobby Allison passes away. I'm just going to let you go first. Bobby Allison, yeah. Yeah.

I didn't, you know, like you guys knew Bobby before you were down south from some of your short track stuff in it. I didn't get to meet him until I went down. there. You know, he's 86. Now, in my mind, any, whatever time it is from Pocono

in 1988 to when he passed the other day, was extra anyway. Because he, you know, for all basically, all basic purposes, he was dead at Pocono and through the people that attended to him in the car and Lehigh Valley Hospital up here, I think.

Good memory. Yeah. They saved him in the car first. And then they got him there. And that was all extra time anyway. And that was some real good extra time. But what a hard core racer. Now, you talk about somebody that had run-ins with NASCAR.

He was in the trailer a lot of times, and he probably did a lot more yelling than the boys do now, or we did. You know, and then just, what, a month ago, they awarded him his 80th. 85th win, which put him third, third or fourth. More importantly. Put him ahead of Darryl Walter. Yes. Yeah, broke the tie with DW. And that was from Bowman Gray.

And I don't remember what year, but he was running one of the grand American cars or whatever they called him, the little Mustang. They won the race, but they didn't want to count it. Even though it was a grand national race, I don't know what the whole deal was. But they did good. They awarded it to him the other day.

Quickly, sometimes people say, why do we need to look back at history? I said because it repeats itself. And the story about that race is NASCAR was struggling. They did not have enough Grand National cars, which is now the Cup series. They did not have enough cars. So they married for all intents as purpose so people can understand what they did. They took the Xfinity series and the Cup series and they married them together.

Well, Bobby being the great racer, he's like, well, hell, I'm going to run an Xfinity car because it's Bowman Gray. Yeah, a short wheel base car. Yeah, and he wins. But Tiny Lund won two races just like that. And they gave Tiny. Matthew Dillner is the one that reported all this. So I'm going to attribute this little piece of information to Matthew Dillner. So they gave tiny cup wins,

and they could never understand why they wouldn't give that to Bobby. And they finally did. Yeah. Well, I don't, you know, obviously I never got to. to meet tiny or anything. But Bobby probably was a lot bigger thorn in Nessker's side over the years on different opinions and things

that they just jacked with that one for a while. Yeah. So our heartfelt prayers to the Bobby Allison family, and I'm just going to, we're going to end like this on Bobby. Bobby said this to me. He said, Kenny, you always want to pass everybody on the inside.

Eight tires is better than four. And he said that to me. And I'm telling you, he said that to me. So he was a hardcore racer. Yeah. You know, and he just, he's a good guy every time he was around him. But great, great driver. But he was also, you know, he's one of them.

smaller groups where he was also the chassis guy. He was the everything guy, you know, he could do it all. And he, you were a lot like him. And I'm going to tell you why, because even though he was a big time cup driver, he had Bobby Allison racing. And I remember the two guys that worked for him. Even though he was in the cup, Bobby would race that little car all over. He was racing short track racing.

He was a lot. He'd take his own stuff a lot of times. He'd fly in, run someone else's car, but he'd also fly in and meet his stuff there a lot. Yeah, Bobby Allison, real racer. Yeah. All right, that is it for NASCAR. And we are moving over to dirt racing, Kenny. There's more.

Boy, what a big weekend for dirt. At Sharp. Yeah, we're going to talk about it. So the hot topics in dirt racing. So, Kenny, we're at the dirt world finals. we got a championship decide for the late models. Everybody, even the sprint cars, the center steered dirt cars up in the Northeast, three divisions.

And what stands out to you, which is your hot topic there out of the three divisions? Well, Charlotte's a pretty unique place, the surface can be challenging at times. they had a good surface. It was multi-grove. They ran around the top. They run around the bottom. The race went on, the groove would change, but it wasn't a one groove follow-the-leader place.

And great car counts. And once again, well, grandstands, good grandstands, a lot of spectators, a lot of cars, a lot of spectators. And once again, down to the wire. with no drama. Three championships decided. No one ran in anybody, knocked anybody out. It was just good racing.

I guess the late model championship was the closest. Yeah. Little Pierce has been on a rampage here pretty much all year. And Shepard had to really pony up here the last night. He ran better. and was able to still win the championship. Yeah. You said that really good.

I'm going to point out the fun part, the controversy. I don't know if you know about it. So Chris Madden, Madden's been roughed up physically, and Madden took a lot of time off. And he was really, listen to this. So Madden took some time off because, from what I read, there was something physical wrong with him. And I didn't know that until, you know, the race is going on.

And I'm watching and hearing Hannah Newhouse report on it. And then so as Madden, Madden starts like, you know, up front and he's fast. And every car he went by, which was two. He went by Bobby Pierce and he showed Bobby his right. Which was two. Every car he went by, every car he went by, which was two. So, you know, Pierce is fast, right? So Madden in turn two shows Bobby Pierce's quarter panel.

Well, Bobby does that all the time too, so that's okay. So Madden gets by him shows him his quarter panel off too. Pierce has to let off the gas. But Bobby doesn't come back at him because Bobby's guilty of the same thing, except the next one was Ricky Thornton, or all the dirt fans say RTJ. He shows Ricky Thornton his quarter panel, and I mean Thornton is high.

highly pissed to the maximum peak. So mad to where Ricky loses his temper and just rank during Green Flag goes back in, hits him, but doesn't get him gets gets him in the left rear tire area. And it ruins R.T.J. Okay. So Madden wins the race and he's the fastest. And everybody's on the bottom and Madden is in the middle of the racetrack. That's how good his race car is. Middle of the racetrack. They go to Victory Lane. And the pitcher is hilarious. Ricky Thornton is mad in his interview, Hannah Newhouse, and Ricky's like, I guess he wanted it worse than me. And then all of a sudden they get into it. The top three, like the podium, the pitcher shows Ricky Thornton like he bit off more than he could chew and then mad come back at him like a bulldog.

So anyway, it was good. you know the hot topic in dirt racing was basically Ricky Thornton and Madden in Victor Lane but yeah you're right you know Brandon Shepard the champion and then in the sprint cars it was David Gravel who won center steer the dirt car super serious?

I think Matt Williamson Matt Williamson yeah I think it's Matt Williamson yeah he's always fast Yeah, Matt Williamson, Matt Shepard, Stuart Freezing. Stuart Freezing, one of those drivers, like a Kyle Larson, freezing, always just drops in on them. And like a week ago, started like 16th and 150 grand.

And freezing, he gets in those cars and just whoops up on him. Freezing, I think he ran third at a World Outlaw sprint car race this year. Damn. A couple months ago in Glenn's wheat sport someplace, a real slick place up in slick, slick, up in New York. Rove Glenn Steyer's car. I'll be darned. Yeah, I think he ran third, third or fourth, ran real good.

Sticking with dirt racing, this is not on our sheet, but you bring up a good subject. I don't have a sheet. I sent it all to you. You decided not to look at it, but that's okay. I look at some of the stuff you warned me about I look at. Yeah. I didn't see that one. A topic to do with dirt racing.

So Stuart freezing is incredible, like you just said, you know, you add it on. But he comes to a truck series and he's good, but, you know, he's struggling a little bit. And then we look at somebody like a priest who is, you know, asphalt modified, just, dominates and then gets to the cup series and just finds a tough way. Kenny, what is it? What's your opinion on these drivers that you and I consider damn good? But then when they get to the big boys series, I mean, it could be even the Xenity series or truck series, which is very hard.

What is your take on those guys that are so good but struggle in the big series? Is it the car? Well, yeah, I want to. change your wording there a little bit. Yep, help me out. You're thinking the Cup series is the big series. Yeah. And that the Xpenity series and then the truck series and then whatever series and whatever series.

Yeah. Let me tell you what. The world outlaws is a big series. The center steer big blocks, a big series. You know, all, I mean, the world outlaw, late models. Lucas Oil, Late Miles, they're all big series. You're just changing series. The

Cup series and Experianic series, more TV exposure, except for like, you know, the streaming stuff, but you know, they're bigger dollars and more high profile. But when those guys are

winning at those other series, they're kicking ass in the best series they can. Now, when you change series, you change teams, you know, it's it's all about the 20 guys that are going, you know, to the racetrack or however many NASCAR even takes now. They've got a limit now, how many can you can bring. Yeah. But it's it's not just the driver.

The drivers, someone like Stewart, who we already know can all ass and win those races. He can do it in the Cup Series 2. He's got to get enough time in the different type of vehicle and with the right group. But it's all about the group. And, you know, we all know that. But it's about the group. I don't think the driver struggles as much. Yes, there's a learning curve for sure.

But a good driver in one of those other series will figure it out. Yeah. Oh, no, I agree with you. I got nothing to add except what Dale Senior taught us. Dale Senior looked at us and he said, Herman, there's thousands of great race car drivers all over. They all can't be in the Cup Series. Yeah. Well, a lot of them don't want to be.

I mean, it's not, you know, it's not a dream for everybody. I mean, Harry Gantt for years could have went cup racing and didn't because they couldn't afford to run. he was a lot better off winning with the short track car than he was running ninth in a cup race. Yeah, good point. Back in the day. I think that's why Dick Trickle waited so long because he was making ends meet and then finally got the call from Bobby Allison.

Dick Trickle receives the call from Bobby Allison come down and... 49 or 50 years old when he won a rookie. I love it. And then he wins the... he wins the open race for the for the Winston open you know before the before the Whistle I think he was in Cale's car the 66 wasn't it yeah I don't remember it might have been but he he couldn't have a beer because he had to run to Winston so just one at Charlotte and they can't have got to run that's I'm going to have two afterwards you know

that's good that's good all right so um we come to the point the show where you and I pick our drivers of the week. And for everybody out there, listen, we're going to do this every show, even if it's to off week because, you know, we got snowball derby. We got, we got racing out west and we got the dome in St. Louis. But Kenny, we're going to cover. The whole jumping contest. Yes.

Big race of the year. Oh, my God, we're going to the dome. It's theatrical. We know it's not real. It's real It's real When is the dome? December

First weekend of December By the way everybody I'm not going to open this up in front of you Kenny do you share For everybody on podcast This is the legendary calendar That I'm Going everybody on YouTube right now

On Dirty Mo Media Month at a glance Okay So do Did you find that calendar because of Dale Sr. And then I copy you. How did that calendar come about?

Oh, I had mine years before I went down south. Oh, really? So you did not copy Senior. No. No. The dome is December 5th, 6th, 7th, everybody. Gateway Dirt Nationals where the Rams used to play football. But go ahead.

Your calendar. Yeah, we got, I mean, there's a lot of good races coming up yet. This weekend. This weekend, you and I. Yep. Turkey Derby, Springfield, Missouri, Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Springfield, Missouri, this weekend, everybody. November, we want to make it right for Jerry Hoffman.

We are racing. Kenny Schrader and myself, we're racing basically November 15th, 16th, Springfield, Missouri. Yeah, along with about 300 or, well, 290-something other cars. They'll be, I think there was over 300 last year. Yeah, so even if we, they don't, it's over three days. Yeah, we got a lot of racing this winter. Maybe there's not going to be a race one weekend, but we can still pick our drivers of the week and give them a shout out.

So Kenny, your NASCAR cup driver of the week, what are you thinking? NASCAR Cup? Yeah, we're going to go Cup right now. I don't, I mean, It can only be Joey, in my opinion. Right. I agree.

I agree. Won a race, which made him the champion. Listen, everybody. I'm going with Joe Ligano, too, and we're not going to pick him because you're mad that he's that good. So Kenny Schrader and myself pick Joey Ligano, the NASCAR Cup driver of the weekend. All right, let's have fun. Let's go over to the Dirt series. You know, it doesn't have to be all three divisions.

But what do you think about the Dirt World Finals? Who's your driver of the week? You know what? I don't know who won all the sprint car races. But, man, there's so many I'm good. I'll go with gravel. Yeah. He's the one that got it done over the course of the year.

And because of that, Saturday night became the champion. Yeah, that's a good, solid call. I'm going to go with Chris Madden because nobody saw Madden. coming. Nobody saw him coming. He ran good all three nights, but nobody saw Chris Madden coming. Yeah. Yeah. But, you know, you can say that, and no one saw him coming. I understand. But is it a surprise when Chris Madden runs good? No, he always runs good. Right, right. And he's one of the best. And okay, local driver. I ever wrote down, who do you think are St. Louis Local and you're the one that said this. I liked it. You're the one that added the local driver. We're in St. Louis on Dirty Moe

Herman Schrader's show and you added this. So I'm gonna go first to kind of give you An idea what I'm thinking so the very last race in the history of East Bay I'm with you I'm with you you say Treb Jacoby Treb Jacobi went down to East Bay and won 10 grand St. Louis racer with his little dirt modified, UMP modified. He drove David Rudiman's mod because, you know, for people that don't know it, I don't feel comfortable saying everything, but David Rudman's been roughed up. You don't feel comfortable saying stuff?

Okay, you say it. No, I mean. Yeah, well, because I don't know. You say stuff all the time. Yeah, well, just to hear yourself talk, I think. But go ahead. You were talking. I didn't mean to interrupt.

You're fine. I love it. So now you've kind of giving me a little bit of energy here. David Ruderman, the winning cup driver in NASCAR, quit NASCAR, and he's building dirt modifies. And David had some really tough physical ailment. And, you know, so he said, okay, let's put Treb in my car because Treb drives a beak built. They're called beak belts. and they created a nice little union of their friends.

And so David Ruhman says, hey, Treb, come drive my car for the very first last, the last race in East Bay in Kenny. It did not go good in his qualifier. Treb come from like 18th, a 50-lap race. Yeah. They were good. But Treb's, you know, Treb's been last couple years, he's really been on top of his stuff. And, you know, you're in David's backyard there.

David's daddy got how many laps around there, you know, how many wins. Yeah. Buzzie ran over me a couple years ago at Volusia, two oldest guys out there. And I'm young compared to Buzzie. That's funny. It probably not funny at the time, but it's got it. No, it was, it wasn't. I think we just bumped.

It wasn't run over. But I went up and told him how bad he'd run over me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I've seen you do that before. He's great. Listen, everyone. for as happy as Kenny Schrader and myself are,

you don't want to get on the bad side of Kenny Schrader. Let me give you a little insight. When Kenny Schrader's lower lip starts fluttering like this, get away. I've seen it. I've seen it. I don't think so. I know.

I've seen it. You're awesome. Hey, but that's good. You can't let everybody think you're happy all the time. You've got to scare them a little bit. Okay, so those are our drivers of the week. Joey Legano, Kenny, you took David Gravel,

I took Madden, and then our local driver of the week, Treb Jukovie. We come down to kind of the Speedy Gonzalez part of the show where we got some quick little fun segments. Why? You know, and we'll get better at this, but why? You want to go first? You sure we'll get better? Well, maybe we'll get rid of it.

My why is, why do people just complain so much? Why do you? I mean, there are people that have cancer. There are people that killed in auto accents. I'm serious when I say this. People, why? What? You're living, you got health.

There's people that got, you know, Junie Dunn-Lovey told Brother Mike one time. Mike was complaining. And Junie Dolevy said, Bubba, you could have been one of those people that got killed in that plane wreck. And there was a big plane wreck that week. And so why is there so much hardship of the complaining? Why do you complain so much? So that's my why. What's yours, Kenny?

Why do we have this segment? That would be mine. Why are we doing this? Why are we talking about why? Remember the old blood? That's mine. That's mine, Kenny. Remember the old bud commercial? Why say why?

Why say why? My dad used to say that all the time. Why? Why is that construction still going on interstate, 85, interstate? Why do we got a towway here in Charlotte, North Carolina? Okay, we'll get better at that. So, I know I'm going to surprise you, but it is on your show. Why?

See, you're already getting a hang of it. Okay. You're already getting a hang of it. Okay. Stories from the past. Do you have any stories from the past? You know what? There's a lot of stories.

Can't tell all of them. Right. Because not everybody's died yet. They can always edit you out. Yeah. No, I just, you know, I mean, every race you go to, you got, there's a story, you know, and just, every day you're alive, there's a story. Some are better than others, and they don't, they don't all have to do with racing, but I don't know. You, I, weren't you, you know, listen, I'm reaching inside my brain.

I think you tell a story at the banquet where you and one of your buddies, you're full of spirit and you're beaten on Jeff Gordon's house. About two in the morning, can Jeff come out and play? Do you remember that story? Oh, that was Kenzer, Steve Kinzer. Oh, Louisa. Yeah, we're beating on his motor home. and his granddaughter.

I mean, the races are over. We're all back to campers and his granddaughter opens the door. Yes, and said, we want to know if Steve would come out. And, you know, it's to drink by the fire. And she turns around, Steve was eating a sandwich after races

and says, Grandpa, they want you to come out and play. And said, tell them I'll be there in a minute. But they want you to come out and play. It was cute. Oh, mine is, before Rusty Wallace became a, you know, cup driver, Rusty, Paul Andrews, you know, the winning crew chief for Alan Quickey. So Rusty and Paul Andrews, they're working at my Uncle Gary's OK vacuum and janitorial supply. So, Kenny, you worked for Seva King before we made it.

And then we all worked at Uncle Gary's OK vacuum and janitorial supply. So every Friday night, we run Springfield, Missouri, Ozark Empire Fairgrounds. And it was Rusty Wallace against Larry Phillips and Mark Martin. All right. You're off, you know, run an open wheel and you're doing your deal. That was big, though. Springfield was, that was big down there. It was.

It really was. So Uncle Gary, you know, he's basically, you boys need. to decide if you're going to be race car drivers or work here. It's like, oh, boy. Okay. He ain't going to like this one. I'm going to eat, but I'm going to race. Yeah. It was very hard for Uncle Gary to understand that we were all jacked up about repairing street cleaners and selling chemicals. They're like, Uncle, we love you, buddy. But come on now. So anyway, we have to leave at like 3.30. We have to leave at 3.3.30 to make it for the first heat.

That's cutting it close. Right. Yeah. And to this day, Mark Martin's got great stories. Well, so anyway, it's like, I mean, it's Showtime. And Uncle Gary is going to test Rusty. So he goes to Rusty. Now, there's other people to choose from.

But Uncle Gary, he's just going to test Brother Rusty. And he goes, he hands Rusty this sheet of paper. And he goes, I need you to deliver this 55 gallon drama chemical across the river. Go across the, you know, the J.B. Bridge and delivered over in Illinois, you know, it's very expensive, 55 gallon drama chemical. Rusty is pissed. He gets in this box truck. Now, here's the biggest thing.

Everybody's got to remember. The back of the box truck has got these, you know, It doesn't have a roll-down door. It's got these chains, and these chains, you know, they wiggle. You've seen the old paper delivery trucks. So Rusty throws this 55-gallon drum up in there, closes that chain deal, and he's so mad he starts gear-banging. Whom!

W-w! Gets other, goes across all these railroad tracks, backs that baby up. Beep, beep, beep, backs it up. Rusty's sarcastic. He gives that guy that yellow shit. Here he go, pal. Sign for this 55-gallon drum. Guy looks at Rusty and goes, what, 55-gallon?

Rusty says, oh, no, I know right where it's at. Rusty's on his way back. And there's that 55-gallon drum right at that railroad. So Gary fired him. And it, you know, it was the best. thing that happened. So that is a Rusty Wallace story for you.

We all needed to be fired when we were wanting to race and having to work. We all needed to be fired because we weren't doing very good. I will save my stories for another show, but I have stories that I give in speeches about Kenny Schrader that have the people just

rolling your time with Siva King. Seva King was good to you, weren't they Kenny? Oh, they were the best. They were great. They were like, like Hank was more like a father and another father, and Don was more like an older brother. And they put up with a lot. And they helped me so much.

I mean, we would have never got a chance to go racing without those guys. And the family is just, you know, they're just great. Yeah, good stuff. Okay. What makes you happy? Now, come on. This is another segment.

We're down to last three or four here. What makes you happy, Kenny Schrader? Yeah, it's the racetrack. Boy, I agree with that. Friends and family being healthy. Yeah. Thanksgiving's around the corner. A little bit of peace in the world, just a little bit,

which we don't have that. But, I mean, that sound, you know, all the stuff like everyone says. But that's, you know, as you get all. older, that changes. Well, a good night at the race trackto really makes me happy, you know. So we'll see. Yeah. So what makes me happy?

A really good poop just makes me really happy. That's nasty. But boy, I tell you what, the older I get, it just really makes me happy. So I, uh, I'm glad I'm not as old as you are yet, then, because that's not really. That's more of necessity. Yeah. Oh, man, what a day it's going to be. I had a nice one this morning.

What a day it's going to be. You're lucky. A good poop is just awesome. See, I had this other one here. It said, what makes me happy? When it rains for two days and the sun comes out, and we know we're going to run Springfield. But that's too lame.

I thought the other one was better. A really good poop. So, all right. You, oh, never mind, never mind. I'm not going there. I almost lowered myself to it, but I'm not doing it. See, Dale Jr. understands me. Dale Jr. follows me on social media.

He goes, man, I know, I know when you're going to go at it. He gets it. He might understand you, but he might cancel you, too. But he understands why he had to cancel you. You know, they edit this show. They could take that right out. Yeah. Okay.

What makes you mad? Now, you know, these are, we're whizzing by. These are 30-second deals here, Kenny. So what makes you mad? Somebody doesn't do the job, whatever it is. Wow. That's aggravating. This does it half-ass.

Doesn't do it right. No is better. Just too lazy to take the extra 10 minutes and do it right. Does it make you mad when people wear flip-flops at a dirt race and their crew members? That's just stupid. I watched you chew Buddha's ass out. That was funny because I agree with you. You're a crew member and you're wearing flip-flops.

What is that? What is that? What kind of signal does that send? You hired him after I did, I think. Yeah. Okay, that was good. That was all funny. Okay.

All right, Kenny. I remember that. You remember that, don't you? Oh. Oh. It's my lower lip quiver. Yeah. See, I told you, everybody.

We're going to get more comfortable. The Herman Schrader show continues. All right. Current affairs, I think we're both going to go the same way here. What do you have for current affairs? It's the election. Yeah. It's just the election.

You know, every four years, presidential election. but pretty big deal. And the fact that it went, appears to be semi-com. It was a, my opinion on current affairs is, gosh, for the first time in 40-something years, our president, Donald J. Trump, it was a landslide, anything over 300. So he got 312 electoral votes, won the popular vote, won every, basically every state, except, I mean, my God, he dominated. So it's called, I learned, Kenny, they call that a mandate.

It means a mandate means you have everything it needs to get everything done. So there won't be voting. I guess we're still waiting on the House. The Senate, they got the majority in the Senate. I don't know the latest, but they're waiting on the House. And they were leading there. The Republicans were leading the House. So that's called a mandate, meaning you covered all the bases.

So that is current affairs. Okay. Trending. Go ahead. You have something? Current affairs? Yeah, I'm kind of worried about what my draw is going to be for the heat race there Friday night. That's my biggest concern I have right now.

You kind of want to start fourth or fifth because it's passing points, I'm sure. So, you know, you don't want to start all the way in the back because you need to get the first or second. but you need some passing points also. So see people, he's the same as I am. Everybody teases me, Herman, oh, look, there goes a squirrel. I'm talking to you, but you're thinking of Springfield right now. And I'm like you. So let's talk about that for a minute.

Well, no, you're talking about current affairs. That's what's current in my head right now. That's pretty big deal. That's what's current. Yeah. I haven't seen anything about it on the news, but that's pretty big deal. So we go down there and we run two heat races

and I guess you're the best average from both heat races put you in the A main? Yes, last year. Yeah, and then you got to redraw, top six or something. Last year we ran fourth in that race but we locked in Friday night with the A mod and the B mod. So I'm just going to run to B-Mond this year.

So it just runs one heat race. You're good everywhere, but boy, you are really good at Springfield. You won the last race down there on the high side. You got that right rear right on that little lip. And you got it going down the back. Straight away, you found the little lip. And I think Jerry Hoffman makes sure those lips kind of stay there. He cuts about a five-inch lip.

in there, which I really haven't seen in any other racetrack, but you can get pretty aggressive with it when you know it's not, you're not leaning against just a little bit of buildup dirt. It's supported by a good lip, so a good lip, you know, just where the racing surface is like this. Yeah. And then up here, there's like five more inches. You can lean against. Yeah.

But whatever. Yeah, it's good stuff, though. The dirt racers love it. Okay, trending. Kenny, I'm looking at my phone. So for everybody on YouTube trending, number one thing trending right now is Veterans Day. Kenny, it is Veterans Day. And I want to say that I'm not half the man that those veterans were.

And man, you know, when they're fighting for that land on the way over there to Japan, I've seen the stories. They come off those boats. And our fights, Kenny, I'm not half the man. I just, I want to thank the veterans. And that's a little bit of what I got. That's everything. What they've, you know,

what they've given for this country. You know, some of them obviously didn't make it back. It's, we wouldn't be. We wouldn't be what we are without the veterans. They've done it all. My dad was getting ready to get out of the Army when World War II started, and then he was in for the duration. So, but I can't even, I can't even,

I can't watch. them the war movies and stuff because they i just uh boy those guys are committed it's almost unbelievable that we for right now i mean we're having a good time or that i mean you want to put things in a perspective right that is just unbelievable that those great soldiers of ours can go over there and just i mean on d day they got off knowing that they were going to get shot and if you didn't get shot. You were so lucky. Climb that big old mountain. Yeah, I'm all right, everybody.

Thank you to our soldiers. That's pretty incredible. And we're going to end with the funniest one of all. We came in, happy. We're going out, happy, everybody. Life advice. And this is Tiff's special. This is Dirty Mo Media. Tiff said,

A.m, can you and Schrader ad at the very end? Life advice? I said, oh, boy. I'm waiting for some. That's already funny, right there. Oh, my God. Well, my life advice is just a funny little saying that I learned years ago. My life advice is this. Your life will not change until you change your life.

So many people think they're stuck somewhere that they can't do it. And, you know, I know your story, Kenny Schrader, and you made it happen. So you're in control of your life, whether you think you are or not. That's my life advice. You don't got to be serious either. Yeah. No, the only thing I do is I hate, you know, having a bad night sit the racetrack.

You know, we all hate it. All comes around to that track. No, but when it's over, I don't care. If it was a terrible night, it's over. there's nothing that can do about it. So I don't let it drive me crazy. I don't worry about the next one. But what would have been

doesn't make any difference. It's like on TV when they go, if the race ended now, well, guess what? It's not going to end now. It's going to end at the end of the race, not now. So I don't care what the points are now

unless there's a rainstorm coming or something. But, you know, when stuff's over, you just don't shake it off. i like that that that was deeper than you know and i know you don't like to get deep but that that is so true boy i wish i could have done better i guess i should start reading your notes i'll i'll read them before the next one so i really know what's coming what what does that andy petrie say i hold instead of saying i told you he he he acts funny goes i hold i hold you i hold you all right everybody that's it the first herman schrader show is done we're

hope you enjoyed it. And yeah, Herman Schrader show on Dirty Mo Media and on the Kenny Wallace YouTube show. We had the time of our life. I want to thank Dale Jr. and Mike Davis

for making that call to us, Kenny. Yeah, we'll get back if I want to thank them or cussing. Yeah, well, we'll get back. I'll call you late. All right, everybody. Until the next Herman Schrader show coming up next week.

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