The Dale Jr. Download - Martinsville: "Never Been More Disappointed"

Episode Date: April 1, 2025

After a controversial weekend in Martinsville, Dale Earnhardt Jr. has a lot to unpack on this week’s edition of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to discuss driving etiquette at the Paperclip and more:Big CARS Tour announcementSammy Smith’s last lap moveHow do you improve on-track etiquette?What is an appropriate penalty for causing a wreck?Penske battery problemsThe tire could wear even moreRace winner Denny Hamlin calls inDuring the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners wrote in questions regarding:Crucial items for a new man caveSetting alarms in the morningDale’s 2017 Homestead carIn the Dirty Mo Dough segment, Tampa Timms talks about his rough weekend. Plus, who the guys think could shine at DarlingtonDirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They’ve got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuff.And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMediaMust be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call [phone] for 24/7 support in Massachusetts, or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

I wanted to let you know that I have volunteered you and me to work the NASCAR booth at the next Martinsville race. Me and you will just manage the penalty process. Yes. We will hand out the penalties as we see fit. I won't even need glasses like yours to see what I said. I said that I'll let you penalize my drivers if you see fit. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm still sour, man, that I wasn't your best man at your wet.

When will you start mentally, like, getting ready for the race? Can you not tell I'm mentally ready? This is the most fun I've had in this chair in the last hour and a half. Yes, this is more fun. Travis has some dumb ideas, but I agree with them on this one. Well, I would agree with you, but then we would both be wrong. What kind of question is that? What do you mean?

What kind of question is it? Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about. You haven't scratched the surface yet, there, boy. I forgot what a wild menace I was. You don't need a cool vest for that race? I mean, what the f*** you won't? I just think the last few laps, it was just like stop every time. You're picky.

This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker. All right. This ain't Burger King. That's just what I call preparing. Travis is like, fucking wrap us up. They don't have no fun around here. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr.

We're back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download. It is Tuesday. This is Dirty Air. I'm with T.J. and we're coming in two days after the race weekend. Two. Yeah, cleaning up. A lot of shit been said.

And done. Yeah, and done. But I'm saying since the race. There's been, yeah, yeah, for sure. Plenty of comments. Plenty of comments, more reactions, lots of stuff to cover. That's right. So, listen, everybody, we're going to get to all the shit.

But before I do that, I got to tell y'all that there's an announcement for the Cars Tour. Okay? This is a big damn deal, so pay attention. Don't be skipping. The Cars Tour for North Wilsonboro, we've been running there with the All-Star Race. It's a massive deal for us to be there on Wednesday to race during that. It's just incredible for our series. Big weekend.

Yeah. Huge. Well, it's getting even cooler because the late model stock portion is going to move to Friday night following Cup qualifying, and it will be on FS1. Wait, I'm not done. So you can still watch it on flow, right? If you want to watch it on flow, it'll still be there on flow. But also, you'll be able to watch it on FS1. and me and Harvick are going to be in the booth.

That's awesome. So we're going to be on the, I can't wait for this. The pro class will still run Thursday night. They'll have their own day to do all the things they want to do. Late-mile stocks will practice, pros will practice, they'll qualify. But on Friday night, we're going to impound the late-mottle stocks, and the late mile stocks will race on Friday night on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on on I I'm so excited about this this is so great big yeah I mean it's a good

it's great yeah I mean the crowd will be there and uh you know they're going to see qualifying and then then they can see our our late mall stock race Friday night at the racetrack but how you know how many people are going to be able to see the cars tour on fs one for the first time you know um I'm excited that it's going to be broadcast on flow and FS1 at the same time. But being in the booth with Kevin talking about our series, and I can't wait. I just can't believe it.

Yeah, that's awesome. That's like to run in front of that event, like on that, that night, that's like, it reminds me of as in one fun thing that I got to do is when I run the dash years in 03, we ran before the All-Star race at Charlotte. And that was a huge crowd. It was cool. So anyways, you know, the late model stock portion of the race weekend for us during All-Star weekend is going to shift toward to Friday night, following Cup qualifying. I'll be in the booth with Harvick as part of the broadcast for the race.

The race itself is probably going to fit hopefully in about an hour and a half window, so it's easy to consume. Everybody tune in. If you're wanting to support short track racing and the cars tour, the Z-Max cars tour, tuning in is the best way you can do that. If you're watching on Flow, I love it. If you haven't, you need to check that out. But this particular night, you'll also be able to see us on FS1. That is the best way you can support us is by tuning in and watching.

Obviously, also the Cars Tour, I'm racing at Cordill in two weeks. Are you mentally preparing it? I am mentally preparing. I'm racing on the 12th. We'll be there practicing and qualifying a couple days there before the race, so in town for a couple nights. I'm excited, nervous, ready to get over to the shop, and there's, you know, cars kind of been sitting there ready to go, but they got to get the motor in it. But anyways, a lot of cool stuff going on with the cars tour. There are two races in.

They had a great weekend at Wake County this past weekend, and Minnie Tyrell won the race. Great little story with Minnie. But anyways, moving on. A lot going on on the racetrack, but did anybody get any Martinsville hot dogs? I had three. You had three in a row, didn't you? Does it matter? Yeah, it does.

Fucking judging me. Yeah, but if you have three over a course of a day. I mean, the text was like one hot dog down, two, three, and I'm like, dang, is he going to stop? I had a bag of four, and I didn't know if I was going to eat two and then save two for the ride home. And I had two, and I thought, I got a little time here. I have another. Third. They're small.

They are. They don't, they are small But you get them all the way, right? Nope What do you get on yours? I get them with chili, ketchup, mustard. Yeah. I get mine with just ketchup.

I like the slough. Yeah. Hey, to each his own. Yeah. But the Martinsville hot dog is badass. I know people look at it and they go, that don't look like much of a hot dog to me. But that's not what matters, man.

It's easy to consume, it's kind of small. and it's just They do a really good deal The price is great as well It is a good price My really good My was really good I got a discount

I'd need a discount Like a $2 hot dollar They did You can't pay I got it I walked over there With money in my hand To give to the lady

I actually Walked up there I said hey I'll take I'll take four she handed them to me, wouldn't take my money. Did you tip them? So I put, yeah. I gave her my money and said, where's the tip jar?

She said right over there. I said, I'll put my money in the tip jar. They wouldn't take my money, man. I feel better about it now that you said you tip to me. They wouldn't take my money. But did y'all know that they changed the Martinsville hot dogs twice? We were around probably maybe a decade or 15 years ago when Smithfield come in and tried to bring their hot dogs in.

I remember that. They paid a little extra money or something. They did something that convinced the track to try to change the hot dog, and everybody got pissed off. Didn't go over well. They don't know. But I was talking to the Wood Brothers, watching Qualifying on top of the Wood Brothers holler, and they were telling me a story about how they tried to change the hot dogs way back before I was even racing.

And so it's like Thursday, morning. First, they used to get to the track early. Oh yeah. Right. Practicing on Thursday and Friday. So the Wood brothers are walking into the track and Tony Glover met him at the gate. Tony Glover worked for the 14th at the time, the Kodak car. He met him at the gate. He said, guys, we got to go talk to Mr. France. They were like, what's going on? He's like, they f***ed up the hot dog, man. They changed them. That's serious. And so they went to the hauler and Bill France Jr. was in there. And when Bill France Jr. learned about how they had changed the hot dog, it was fixed.

And it was fixed by noon that day. No kidding. You're damn right. So listen, now that's a funny little story about hot dogs. But it's also what was badass about Bill France Jr. If he wanted something changed, done, no matter whether. that was good or a penalty or a hot dog, it freaking got done. Serious.

On the spot. That man didn't wait or, you know, he, that was a great, you know, this is connected into what we're going to talk about later in the show. I'm going to promise you right now, if Bill, if Bill Jr. had been up in the booth during that Xfinity race, none of us would have left there disappointed. He would have handled business. The Xfinity Series race, let's get right into it, man. I mean, we can talk about that cup race.

Everybody wants to hear our take on this Xfinity race. I think Xfinity was more exciting. That's one description. I wouldn't use. Listen, first off, I did speak to Sammy Sunday. and, you know, I was, I've been, you know, I ain't been on social media a ton. I've been on there, you know, supporting some of the cars tour stuff and post cars tour, you know, celebrating minnie's win and all that and doing a couple other things on there.

But I see the comments. And there's a lot of people out there that are like, oh, man, NASCAR's got to park him. NASCAR, Dale Jr. should park him. Dale Jr. should fire him. and so, you know, anybody who thinks I'm going to park Sammy, like parking for a race, is, that's out of the question. Never going to happen. I wouldn't even suggest it again.

It's a waste of a tweet. But, you know, if I take a minute to kind of manage my initial overreaction, because when I walked out of that racetrack, I was, I've never been more disappointed and frustrated than the not, than that day. Walking out of, I mean, I've seen some, I've been sad, heartbroken now. It wasn't my worst day at a racetrack, but I walked out of there, disappointed and frustrated at the whole thing.

But then, you know, you go home, you, look, I thought on it. Like, I mean, I didn't just freaking wipe it out of my mind and just going about my way. I steamed on this for 48 hours. I talked to Amy about it. but Sammy's my driver for me that this ain't for everybody else y'all can continue to be pissed and think what you won't

but for me I got to shift to what do I do to give Sammy the best advice the most honest advice I can to help him shift to do better sammy's I got to figure out how Sammy can clean this up. It's a mess he's made. And in the end, you know, I got to support him and try to give him the tools and the knowledge to make the better decision next time, right?

NASCAR is going to make their own decision, how they want to penalize him. I'm absolutely fine with that. I mean, I encourage NASCAR to act whenever they feel like somebody deserves you know, some sort of penalty or, or, you know, I'm, I'm expecting it. And then I don't want to use, I don't want to say, yeah, I'm fine with what they want to do. But I hope that they handle this properly. And I expect they will. Whatever that may be will move forward. But listen, man, my blood was boiling.

During the entire race, I saw decisions from several drivers that, There was total disregard for the other competitors, the racetrack, the facility, the, the, the, um, total disregard for the, for the series, the Xfinity series, for the race cars themselves. Um, Sammy's move was a terrible decision, but I was, but I saw, I saw dozens throughout that race. Yeah, you and me both.

Dozens. Same guys over and over sometimes. For sure. A lot of repeat offenders. Going in the corner. and just not even caring about making the corner, taking guys out of the way up to racetrack, cars getting destroyed, the whole damn field was tore all to hell.

Many drivers in that field did little to improve their stock in my eyes. Some of them, I believe actually damaged their reputations. Some responsibility here also falls on NASCAR. You know, I wonder why the booth wasn't more reactive. in the moment, you know, and having some conversations that I've had in the last two days, it's my opinion that NASCAR wants to do that, wants to get there. NASCAR would, NASCAR wants to get to where they can just say, yep, Sammy, you're getting last place points today for all that shit, or whatever, right,

or in the middle of the race. Hey, you know, you're, you can cause that crash, you wreck that guy, you're going to the back. NASCAR wants to get to where they're reactive. I don't know what the hurdles are to that. I really don't. I don't know why I can't go up in that booth and sit down and go, hey, guys, I'll handle the penalties today. And just go, yep, guys, hey, send his ass to the back.

I don't, you know, it is what it is. I don't know how, I don't know why that's not easier, as easy as it sounds, right? We're all sitting here going, that sounds like it's a pretty easy thing to do, but there must be some mechanisms that we don't know about. But having the conversations that I've had with NASCAR, they want to get to that.

They want to get to where they can handle this that day, that moment, in the moment, while it's happening. But it ain't that way. In the Cars Tour, listen, Xfinity Cars Tour, two completely different things.

Apples and oranges, not comparing the two. They are not the same. But in the Cars Tour, if you're involved in an accident, regardless of fault, you go to the back. Landon Huffman's running third,

trying to pass Ryan Millington late in the race for second. They get together in turn three. Millington spins. Millington spins. They both go to the back. Landon Huffman, who was... Look, Ryan Millington, no disrespect.

I didn't get a great view of the rate, but I'm just going to assume, let's just say Landon was low as he could be, and it was really nothing he could do. He's kind of up beside you. Well, Landon's sitting there going, I didn't do anything, but he doesn't come cussing me.

He didn't come cussing a. officials. He goes to Ryan Millington after the race. That's how it should be handled. He's not mad at the governing body for sending him to the back. He knows the rule. He knows he's going to go to the back if you're involved in a crash.

If you used this sort of standard, it would carry over. You wouldn't even need it anywhere else. Just do this at Martinsville. If you're involved in a crash, no matter your responsibility, if you make contact,

bump into it. anything, you go into the back. If you did this at only Martinsville, it would set a new standard that carried from week to week and went out to all the, they would race that way everywhere, even though you wouldn't have that rule at any other racetrack. That's what I would have loved

to have seen in this race. It's like, look, man, you've got to know that if you go down in this corner and you dump this damn guy, that you're going to the back. I don't care that you didn't spin out, didn't lose a spot. You're going to the back.

You know, the 21 goes down in there and bowls into turn one and knocks three, four cars out of the way, wrecked his teammate and Carson, you're going to the back. The Sammy deal sucked. Sammy f***ed up. We're going to try to give Sammy everything we can and to support him going forward. We've got a whole season to run. We'll see if we can't, you know, get him to where he's making better choices in them moments and see if we can't get him to realize the era that he made.

But the end of the, the messed up part, I think, is that for most people, that's all they're going to remember from that race. And I told Sammy that. I said, you know, you, you know, we cost Justin the dash for cash opportunity, cost himself a chance to race for the dash for cash next time, wasn't going to win the race. with that move. It wasn't a winning move. Dozens of cars destroyed on the front straightaway.

That's all people were going to remember from that race. Now, I saw it. I remember that too. But I remember all the other shit that I saw that was equally disappointing and stupid. But all people are going to walk away from that race is, well, that's Sammy Smith. I'm not sure about him.

And there's a bigger problem. Denny said it during the race. Like, golly, man. What's going on? where's the black flag? Where's the penalties here? They ought to let me and Denny go up in that booth at Martinsville and just hand out penalties.

Co-sign. Hell yes. I would sit there with Denny and me and him would just hand out penalties the whole race. I think Sammy made it worse at the end. He just needed to take his top two or top three and leave. But what happened at the end there covered up all the other. stuff that other drivers did. Like Austin Hill, supposed to be a veteran of the series, drove like a complete tool.

Austin Hill gets out of that car and he's like, I damn won. I won. What the hell did I do wrong? Here I am Victor Lane. I must have done it right. And he is the master of, I mean, he wrecked three cars and one wrecked basically. Because he was mad. Yeah.

Because the guy got inside him with tires. And that. I think the guy roughed him up a little bit, but it wasn't. the payback didn't fit No, but roughing him up. I mean, the guy had tires, was forcing his way through. He wouldered on the same thing.

Yes. But it doesn't mean you go in there to a lap later and wreck three cars. Like, that's the wrong example. He's supposed to be the veteran guy. Don't do this stuff, guys. I agree. Like, Justin to me, and this is, after this race, I've seen more of a change Justin Augier,

more of a mentor, more of a, you know, more of the leader of, you know, this type of stuff like, hey, guys, we don't need to be racing like this. But it covered up what, you know, and Sammy didn't do himself any favors in his interviews. He did not. And that which, which made it even, the wreck at the end was like, oh, wow. We've seen guys two or three years ago. We saw Ty Gibbs wreck Brandon Jones for the win. They just cleaned him out for the win.

And we all left same type of thing. But, man, just getting out and not just owning it, be like, you know, I made a bad decision. I should have finished second. And that's the part that bothers me more is it was an eye for an eye at that point. You moved him, he moved you, you were going to come out of there with the top two. When they come off a turn two, Taylor Gray, so if you like, did a great job. Yeah, Taylor Gray worked past him, you know, got into him a little bit.

Sammy had done that earlier, just to restart before. That was racing. That was just short track racing. and they were dead when they come off of turn two on the white flag in the last lap the score was even that's what I thought yeah it was even and so you know Sammy goes down in there

and barrels into the corner knocks the damn fucking nose off his car the hoods popped up and the 54 gets spun out and then Sam you know it just was a no that was a zero there was zero chance that that was going to pay off in Sammy's favor yeah working in your favor at all

Zero chance. And so, look, it's done. It's in the books. We ain't changing it. He can't go back and change it. I think that he may be, I don't know if he knows the full weight of the freaking screw up. I don't know if he truly has learned his lesson perfectly. That might be a process.

I'm sure all of the You know the thing about you know all of the social media Noise all of us podcasting Every day over the last 48, 72 hours All of that noise is Effective it will you know He has to hear it He's gonna go to the racetrack this weekend

And whole boy is he gonna get asked about it Did he seem receptive when you talk to him though Because this is a podcast social but you're the owner And your name character like you're not just any owner. I called Sammy on Sunday and I talked to him for a while and told him everything that I needed to tell him after I'd calm down. And you don't know whether it sinks in yet. You know, you don't I can't sit here and tell you, oh yeah, man, he's sorry. He's really sorry. And man, he's going to do better. But he says all those things. He says that he understands that he screwed up.

He knows he gives himself a black eye. He gave junior motorsports a black eye. He knows that, you know, that we're very disappointed. And he certainly has tons of regret. But the work forward is a long road. It ain't, you know, he ain't going to fix it in 12 hours. He's got a lot of, you know, he's got a lot of work to. do to repair his reputation.

He, he, that was a, that was a heavy blow, you know, people look at him. I told him, I said, hey, I said, everybody thinks you're a spoiled punk. That's what a lot of people think. I asked him, I said, do you, don't you agree that people have that perception of you? Probably. He's like, yeah, I said, you gave him all that, you gave him an opportunity to be right. I was like, you can't do that. I was like, you're, unfortunately, the situation that he's in and a lot of other drivers are

in. It's perceived that they're only there because of some extra funding or or family connection or what have you, right? There's tons of drivers. It's talked about openly in the truck series and the Xfinity series. Fans have certain opinions about them being spoon fed and what have you. And I said, for Sammy, I said that you have to work harder because of that to prove you belong there. And it is you can be frustrated about that or whatever, but it doesn't change anything. You still have to go. If you want to be a race car driver for the rest of your life,

if you want this to work for you, you're going to have to work harder. And you're going to have to walk the line straighter. And you can't do shit like you did this past weekend. You can't. And so he has two roots. He can continue to make it more challenging on himself and anyone associated with him.

or he can try to clean it up. And that's a process. That's not something he's going to fix this weekend. He's not going to go this weekend and throw a couple sound bites into a microphone and it's all good. This is a, he's going to need the whole year to sort of turn it around, the narrative,

around who he is and what type of person he is. He can do it. I know him. He's a nice kid. Wants this really badly, wants to win, wants to be successful. And I want that for him.

I want that for him here. And so it will, he will continue to now you know it you i guess we'll continue to try to you know help him understand how to how to get you know how to get to where he wants to go not only on the you know not only in success and performance but as a as a person right in character hey everybody you want the latest del junior download apparel visit shop dot dirtymo media.com we're always adding new stuff all the time especially like when we say something silly on this show. We'll put it on a t-shirt.

Again, check it out at shop.dirtymoemedia.com. Do you guys think that the Xfinney series can fix this problem without NASCAR having come down? Do you think it was so bad on Saturday that maybe they'll correct themselves on their own or the drivers will hold themselves accountable? No. No. Why is this just like, why is this any different than Ty Gibbs three years ago? Listen, I'll be honest with you, man. People ain't going to love what I'm about to say. But I sit there and watch a cup race Sunday. Sunday and Eric Jones drove into turn three, three car lengths deep and knocked somebody's ass out of the way.

Same damn thing. It was just for 20th in the cup race. And even NASCAR Kazan made a little tweet that said, what, what Xfinity driver am I? You know, because it was so identical. Egregious. Yeah. But, you know, it's for 20th and it's in the middle of the cup race and probably happens every five laps there. some driver gets down.

Did he wreck them or just said it off the track? Well, the cup car. You can hit a lot harder and square. It has some modified tires on it so you can't spin it out. Going forward, how nasty. The drivers are not going to. That thing about that thing they talked about at the opening of the cup race was all, it was just almost cringe a little bit where they were like,

yep, they told them in the driver's meeting the word of the day of respect. I'm like, oh my goodness. That almost means drive like a tool. That's not going to. They were like, okay, is this driver's meeting over? The way to do it going forward and maybe they'll get there is to penalize people in the moment while it's happening. And the way that they can, so I think one of the reasons why they're hesitant to do it is because NASCAR's always had this sort of strange approach towards. for incidents for and and one example of that is is like if I watch a race and I see a guy

spend himself out on purpose I know it I know he did it on purpose and NASCAR won't really won't react to it unless he admits it right even though I watched it and I could tell any guy yeah you know a guy did it on purpose man it's obvious so well we don't know we're not driving the car we didn't we're not in there we don't Even though we have telemetry now and all these things, we still, we're not sure. And so they won't really react unless a driver comes out and says the damning admission. I did it.

And then NASCAR's like, they'll even say it. You know, we weren't going to do anything until you said you did it on purpose. So I think they need to, they need to, they need to pivot from that mentality of calling incidents. Just at Martinsville, go to Martinsville and say, hey, if you're involved, if you go down in the corner and your right front touches a guy in the left rear and he spins, you are going to the back with him. That will stop this. Why not just, I mean, if you drive like a jackass, we're just going to penalize you. Like, there used to be a fear. There used to be a fear of even.

I just said that. I know, but like not even just that. Like, they would get mad. You'd be in the hauler if you blew a motor and didn't get below the other line. line, getting and talking to. That's the problem with what, there's a problem with what you're saying. Okay?

You're trying, you can't, NASCAR doesn't want to judge whether one's being an asshole and one's not. The great thing, well the great thing, you don't have to with this type of approach. It's Adam, when you say, hey, we're sending you to the back,

regardless of guilt. It's out of NASCAR's hands and there is no judgment. You watch your film, you see the contact. Sorry, man, I like you. But you hit this guy, and he respond, I'm sorry. But per the rule, you now go to the back. And that driver, you know, what that does to the driver is, he goes, well, shit, I don't want to, I don't want to do that again.

So I won't do that again. Whereas the other day, they would just drive right back up through there and knock out of somebody else and spend somebody else out. over and over and over because there was no penalty to it. There's no repercussion. And so, look, I don't love this idea everywhere, but I think you don't need it everywhere. If you implemented it at Martinsville, it would train them to think and race uniquely

that that would carry over. That mentality goes to the next event, to the next event, to the next event. You've got to change the way the drivers are thinking. And NASCAR doesn't need to get in a situation where they're judging whether it was on purpose, not on purpose, whether the guy was malice or innocence or it was a fuck-up or he made a mistake.

It's just make it clean. So is this just a truck Xfinity or do you do it in Cup as well? Sure. I mean, I don't. Because I feel like when you get to the Cup series, you should already know these. Yeah. They should already be in your mind. Dude, it's the, it's, the cup race is the exact opposite of what we saw Saturday.

It's too clean. I mean, I agree. I mean, there's some beating and banging and there's some anger and frustration, but the drivers get over things really quickly. Now, you know, I don't know. There's some guys that got out of cars like Lugano talking about Chastain. I love that. We need that stuff to happen.

We need it. So I would, you know, where we had too much of that Saturday, I would have a little more sprinkled into the Sunday race. in terms of little controversy, little, little, just at least one feud, you know? Yeah, I definitely, I mean, I think the cup race is clean. If you go to Martinsville with the cup cars and you don't come out of there with at least one feud,

it was not a good race. Yeah. There's four or five hundred laps of tight racing. Somebody is, some, something should happen. Yeah. At some point. Oh, yeah. I am serious about coming up and,

and working the NASCAR. booth at Martinsville for the Xfinity race. I love the idea. I'm not saying I'm not asking for an invitation to come watch. Like I'll put on a headset. I'll make a call.

Me and Denny both. That would be so fun. If he thinks my guys need to be penalized, he makes the call. I'll let him make the call. Why not? I see no problem. with this. I don't see anything.

I don't see how that could go bad at all. Going to the cup race, odd thing going on with the Penske cars, having battery issues, so Barry's leading. I'm pumped about that. And then he had some contact with Bubba Wallace on Pit Road. And oddly, I guess unconnected

or not related, the car's battery died. Yeah, out of nowhere. Yeah, and I thought, man, that contact shook something loose or whatever. They were like, nope, not related. Sure enough, here comes Austin Cendrick. He needs a battery. And they ran out of damn batteries.

How does that happen? Well, I'm sure they didn't expect to change four or five batteries that during this, you know. I could see. I mean, they only got so many on the truck. I don't know. I mean, maybe they each had a spare battery between the four teams and they used them all or didn't. I didn't want to use some because it might happen

to the 12 and the 22 Yeah, it's not fair to use all theirs them in case they need it. Who knows, who not, but yeah. Yeah. They ran out of batteries.

I wonder what was going on. You know, did they just have so much going on in terms of fans and driver comfort and so many amps they're drawing? They really do, at least from what I remember,

all of the amps are accounted for. And that alternator, what it can produce, all of that stuff is very measured and precise. And so maybe somehow or another something wasn't performing as well as it was supposed to in terms of maybe the alternator. And they were drawing too many amps to keep up. To keep up.

They might have shut all of the driver comforts off, but everything in terms of brake fans and all the other things that the car absolutely needs still was too much for the system. So it sucks because I think that Austin, Austin Cendrick and Josh both could have had really decent days. We had Josh finishing top 10 on our family. I think Josh was on pace to do that.

Yeah. I mean, his car was... Top 12 car. What did you think about the tires? Yeah, that's another conversation, too. So, they asked Kyle Bush if he thought that the short track package was better. And he's like, no, not really. It ain't better.

different. I kind of, you know, kind of glad that he is as outspoken and as honest as he is. We need all the drivers to say what they think. And as we were all sort of, as all of us that watch the races have been getting happier about what we're seeing with the tires that Goodyear has been producing, going softer and so forth and having the option tire, it's good for Kaubush to say, hey, man, there's still some things we've got to work on. You know, I don't think that it's as good as everybody thinks it is.

And we went to Martinsville and it was all right. It wasn't that great. I mean, the, I do not want. I do not, I would have not preferred them to have two tires, two tire compounds at that race. That ain't what I won't. I know that Gluck said that. He's like, hey, it would have been more entertaining.

We had the option tire. And I love this. Chris Gabehart responded to the tear down. The guys were talking on the tear down, and Gluck was like, hey, you know, having the option tire might have made that more interesting. And Gabehart's tweet says this. I think instead we should make all the cars 100% identical

and see if the drivers can overcome the natural laws of physics. I'll wait. Say what you will about Chris Gabehart, but he pulls no punches on Twitter. He's the best. He is. He's a great follow. And he, nobody's spared, right?

If he doesn't agree with your opinion or he thinks that he has a, you know, a take, he jumps right in there. But he's right. You know, there's no, the cars are all identical. And the drivers really are, you know, kind of limited on what they can do. And so even when your car's off a little bit, you just slow down, get to the curb, down, shift, and drive up off the bottom. The guy behind you just really has no way to sort of set up a pass. I watch Chase Elliott all day long use this traditional, very traditional sort of high entry, cross across, you know, drive across to the bottom to drive up off the bottom of the corner and try to get up underneath somebody.

that's like classic, classic Martinsville and, you know, he can make some lap time doing it, but he couldn't never really just get positioned on a guy and get up underneath them. And it was really frustrating. So I don't think

bringing the option tire or giving them a couple sets of option tires fixes it at all. It just, you know, then we just get to listen all day long about who's on what tire and who's going to do this and who's going to do that, You've got to have guys bulldozing through there.

And it ain't going to matter because they're all going to strategize and it's all going to kind of be pretty much the same in the end. They're all on the same tire at the end. We're not going to ever have an option tire race where the race is ending where people are on different tires to create some sort of, you know, wow, this guy has put his options on. He's in 20th. We got 20 laps to go. It changes the middle up some. It does change the middle, but that's about it. Yeah, it changes the middle.

That's what we saw at Phoenix. we saw guys run up there. It was fine at Phoenix, but what they learned, what I think they should have learned when they walked out of Phoenix was, we need to come back here with just the option tire.

Or even a softer option tire. That's what they race on Sunday was the option tire. That's right. But the problem is too many cautions though, right? So there's no fall off? So we were getting ready to see a cycle when the 88's wheel came off.

We were getting ready to see the difference in that was going to be a green flag pit stop and we were going to see what it did. Guys were going to be able switch some track position around, run long, run short, you know what I mean? Like, and we never really got that opportunity. I liked the direction. I want more.

Like, I want to see. You want to go softer. I want to see the guys struggling earlier than that. That we were just starting to see guys. I could see it from the roof. Yeah. Guys fight the exit of the corner, which is what you fought every time in the other cars, you couldn't get off the corner.

Yeah. And the guy that took care of his rear tires. Well, the guy was smart on the throttle, clean on the throttle. you know, you're just not hammering the gas and spinning the rear tires all the way down to straightaway. That guy was going to haul ass at lap 50, lap 80. You drive by 10, 15 cars. But you could pass.

Yes. You could do it then. And that's where it took in, you had to measure a lot of things. You had to measure in your brain how if you're saving them tires, should I go hard now? Should I save them later? Yeah, the tires definitely could go softer at Martinsville.

The tire has to be problematic. Like, they need to make the tire to where, It is so soft that you have to be smart. That's the best thing you to say is the tire has to be problematic. And if your car's not handling perfectly, you know, hopefully the idea would be that it will punish your tire worse than the other guy.

And that will show up after lap 50 or 80 and you'll see some guys sinking through the field. Yeah. I want to see him, you know, like that 40-ish. I want to see a guy that hurt his tires early. I want to see him be like, oh, he's starting to fall off a little bit here now. Yeah.

So, but, I mean, the point that Gabe Hart makes is that all the cars are so identical. And so it's hard to back off of that. It's hard to change that. I would be curious as to what ideas he might have on what they could do to kind of open it up for some creativity or allow the teams to have a little more, allow the teams to make a little bit more of a difference to sort of set the field apart. Yeah.

I think we got Danny calling in our winner. Thanks for calling in today, Denny. Congratulations on the win. I know that, you know, the broadcast was made. making a pretty big deal out of how long it had been. And it was, and the reason why I think they said that was, and I felt it too, it's like, man, you're so good there. It doesn't feel like it's been that long.

It feels like that you're consistently running in the top two or three at every race we go there. And we just kind of forgotten that it had been that long since you had won. And I know that you're partial to Richmond as well, but Martinsville sits pretty high on your list of tracks that you love to race at. So just kind of walk us through your day, how the car looked flawless. You had control of the race, which that's something I kind of don't understand. Chase was saying that he needed to get control of the race. And you said, you know, if I get the lead, I can set my pace and I don't have to chase. Talk about that.

Yeah, I mean, you know, we knew, I had a pretty good feeling really honestly after Saturday that, you know, while wasn't the fastest, wasn't, you know, the fastest in the long run, like, it still had the characteristics of the car that I needed to, that I've had there in the past. And really, as the race progressed, it, the car just kept handling better and better truthfully. And then obviously, when you get out front and like Chase was talking about controlling the race, that just comes down to you're able to set the pace. And, you know, the biggest, you know, hindrance that a leader has at that the racetrack is lap traffic. And you don't really get it until about 40 laps into every run.

That's really when you catch the back of the pack. And so when you're the leader, you can just kind of run the pace that you need to to make sure that when you get to the back of the pack, you got a little bit left and reserved to get around those guys. And so certainly when you have to chase, it just, you know, on a tire that wears out or not really wears out, but at least gets hot enough

to, you know, have a loss of lap time, It's really tough to get around, guys. How much softer can Goodyear go with the tire at Martinsville? Well, I don't know how much it's about how much softer they can. How much can they do? I think they've got a process issue now where they're going to have to do some retooling or something with their, I think they're at the limit of how soft they can truthfully build a tire right now with the equipment that they have.

They're going to have to invest more money in their equipment to get a softer tire. but it needs to be softer because right now what I noticed and TJ probably can speak to this as well is that by the time the lap times really start dropping and you start to see a disparity in the speed between the cars that's when the caution comes out that's when a stage is over so it's just we got to shorten that window up a little bit because right now it seemed like it was about lap 70 80 that cars really started taking a dump and it needs to move back to about like 30 40 and that's what it was in practice but the minute those cars get going around there and they start filling up the pores of that racetrack

with tire rubber, it just goes away. And that's such a tough job for a good year to have to do, to have to build a tire that they know when they go to a tire test is going to wear out in 20 laps, but just have faith, it's going to go 80 when we go in a real condition. Anytime you make a crew chief change in the offseason, there's some excitement, also some uncertainty. you'd been working with Chris for so long.

Y'all had such a great relationship and seemed to be right on the cusp of realizing, you know, your opportunity to win a championship. When you make a change like that in the offseason, were you concerned? Were you, where was your emotions about around that? And how has that changed as now the season's underway and you're driving the cars and the communications going? How is that going? Yeah, I mean, there was a period there where I certainly was not.

not happy with Joe Gibbs racing or decisions that they decided to make in the offseason kind of without talking to me at all about it. But, you know, I got to trust that they got the bigger picture in mind. I understand it from, you know, the car owner's side that I'm a part of, that sometimes you've got to make those changes and you have a bigger picture of things. But, yeah, I mean, I was worried. I certainly was worried. I, you know, I certainly felt like, you know, okay, I don't want to start over. I'm too late in my career to start all over with someone again, and I just wasn't really excited about that.

But, you know, I thought about it. I slept on it for about a week or so, and was like, you know, I'm going to make the best of it. I'm going to do the best job that I can. I'm going to be a professional here, and I'm going to make sure that I'm doing my job as a driver to give Chris Gale a fair opportunity to prove himself in the Cup series. When you look back at it, you know, I'm happy with the change.

I feel like, you know, my relationship with Gabe Hart was strained for a while and, you know, it's starting to get back on the right track. And I'm starting to build that relationship now with Chris Gale. And certainly my faith in him after just a few weeks really was unwavered and found that this was going to be a pretty seamless transition for him into the 11 team. All right. Well, I appreciate you giving us some time. today, I wanted to let you know that I have volunteered you and me

to work the NASCAR booth at the next Martinsville race. Me and you will just manage the penalty process. Yes. We will hand out the penalties as we see fit. I won't even need glasses like yours to see what I said.

I said that I'll let you penalize my drivers if you see fit. I will not get involved. This isn't this isn't rocket science. I mean, you can see with your own two eyes. We don't need replays.

We don't need anything. We know what we see. And, you know, I said yesterday on Action's Detrimanil, I said, this isn't a balls and strikes call. This is a shot to the head by the pitcher. Like, some are more obvious than others. And certainly, there were about three last Saturday that was easy calls. Yeah.

10-4, man. Well, hey, have fun today. Hit it down the middle. what's what's the way we hit the pin get a hole in one all those good things yeah all those stuff yeah Travis thanks for his hat

yeah Travis is very happy today they're giving me ss I'm wearing the 11 against the world hat nah way to go trap he's always got you back we'll see you Danny thank you see you man all right so that was great talking to Denny and um and uh interesting to hear his

what he thinks about the tire being able to make it softer there's some It's not like just, oh, okay, it's changing. I was, I was interested in, I was interesting what he was saying right there. He knows some, he's done some homework, right? He's done some, had some conversations with a good year and knows some things that. He's right about the tests, though, because I've, I've been at a couple tests, and, man, we'd run 20 laps, and you come in and be like, who these are going to wear out quick. And then you go back for the race, and it's like, no issues.

Magic. No, I mean, that's been the way it has, that's, that's been the case as far as I can remember. You go to these racetracks, especially the ones that might have. have any kind of abrasive surface. They're going to wear the tires a lot. When you're out there testing with no rubber on the track, you're literally the one putting the rubber down. So same reason why when we would go to race tracks, you wouldn't be the first one to the top.

You didn't want to go up there to the top and be the first one up there because you was going to put a ton of rubber down and where that set of tires are. We'd go to Atlanta 2004, right, and drop the green flag. And I would tell them, I want to go to the top as soon as I can. but let me know who's up there first. I'm going to let somebody else go up there, run, 20, 30 laps, start to put some rubber down, and then I'll go up there.

What do you think about the crew chief change, though, that Denny had to deal with? I was surprised that he was as honest about it. Yeah. You know, how... He didn't seem excited, I mean, even from when they talked to him. I know. We could sense in the all season when they made the change

that he wasn't quite as... Wasn't happy. He wasn't up to speed. But I think on his podcast and then today, he alluded, I think, it's even more than what we thought. Right. Exactly. Yeah.

I mean, I don't want to, I don't want to. Well, he even said that his relationship with Gay Part was strained. He just said that. And he said, I thought he was going to be like, I slept on it for a night. He was like, I slept on it for a week, which probably meant it was two or three. Yeah. I mean, sometimes those changes happen and you don't get to choose. And it sucks.

Because, like, you could tell that he really, he really loved. Gabe Hart on it, you know, as the leader of that team. He really, that he was good. He felt like that that was the best position or probably the best situation that he'd ever been in. And he was, he was comfortable and happy around that. But, and so when that changes and that happens, you know, whether, you know, and Chris gets this incredible opportunity to, to move into a role that he's probably be probably looking forward to. And you can't turn that down, even though you like what you're doing with your driver.

and you love running this team, this other opportunity is like a, it's like kind of the next step for me, right? So. But did that start with Chris? Because he said the relationship was strained. Did it start with Chris and him, maybe Chris wanting to do something else and being like,

hey, I'm going to go off somewhere. You know what I mean? Like, I don't know, but. Dude, it was the same when, like me and LaTart were building that team of ours. And I felt like that we were really starting to reach our potential. And he's like, hey, I'm going to go to TV. I can't not do it.

I'm just going to let me be home my kids half a year. None of us liked it. I was like, no, surely, you know, you can, I can convince you that this is, you know. More fun over here. But I didn't get that choice, you know, and that sucked. And similar to Denny, like he didn't really get to choose, but he's starting to understand that, you know, this is going to work and that where he's at is going to be a good deal.

And Gabe Hart's still very much influencing the performance of his car and the entire organization. So, I mean, look at how they're, look at Joe Gibbs racing this year. Holy smokes. To say that the changes they made have panned out would be an understatement, underselling it a little bit. They are fantastic right now. How long does it take to build that chemistry with the new crew chief? Me and LaTart were good from the start.

He came to my house and he said, both of us are in a, you know, must get the job done situation. This is probably both, we were both looking at it like it was both our last chance. And so we had to get to work. The process of building that team into a contender took a long time, a long, long time. But where we were in the year, the final year, I guess, 2014, I think, we were at our we were where denny probably felt like he was with chris right gave heart um and i wanted uh to work with gregg ives um i'd um kevin mander and my lead engineer at the time

i'd actually considered whether kevin was the guy he would go on to cree chief jimmy and now Kevin still works over with GM and Hendrick. But I thought Kevin, I'm always going to be curious as to what might have happened had me and Kevin meander and just kind of continued what we built with Steve. So in that situation, Steve would have left and Kevin would have just failed the role. But we would have been fine because we had been working together already for years. But I wanted to work with Greg. Greg had done some great things with Jimmy. As Jimmy's lead engineer, he'd worked here at Junior Motorsports.

we developed a friendship and trust. And that was comfortable right out of the gate because I knew him so well. Yeah, it was. And that we hit the ground running and went in races in 2015. It was definitely, Stevie was the most easy transition to me because he came in, I don't know, like, Stevie called me and he's like, hey, you got a little bit, ended up being an hour. He's like, I need to know everything you know. I want to know everything you know about him. and he like picked my brain about you,

which he did his homework with it. Yeah, I will say, Travis, the question that might be good to ask is what makes it happen faster as opposed, you know, so instead of how long does it take it, what makes that happen quicker? And it's just exactly what TJ said. When a crew chief comes in the room

and he goes, all right, you're my driver. and you're my spotter, you're my car chief, and gets right to work and just starts pinging everybody for information and questions and you're like, this guy's ready to get going. You get fired up. You as a driver, you get fired up. You're like, oh, hell yeah, this guy's fired up.

It's, you know, it's the end of November, 1st of December, and we're talking about next year. I like this. And he's like, he's getting all the ducks in a row and getting everything, you know, he's ready to work. He ain't going on Christmas vacation and going to go down to the Bahamas

and be with his family and I'll see you in three or four weeks and we'll start. He's ready to go. And that's kind of the way Steve was. Steve was like, he pushed you too. Like he pushed you.

He's like, look, you're going to be here one hour before we're on the track. I want you in here. Yeah. It's awesome. Yeah. I was like, oh. You get animated on radio a couple times

and Stevie, I mean, there's a couple times you're like, this thing. He's like, hey, that's an idea. I'm like, ooh. You can get in trouble. That makes it quicker. It does. Yeah.

Because that's, you know, the driver's like, oh, man, this guy is serious. He means business. That turns your mind into the same mindset. It's really cool. So I always found it's similar to a quarterback and a coach relationship. But like the driver's a star, but then the coach. So it's like how do you build that relationship? Well, the driver's looking at the guy.

I'm like I'm like the driver, like we all do. in this room, man. The driver is looking at the crew chief and he's going, is this guy got his confidence? What's,

you know, is he confident? Has he got this shit under control? Because he's got a lot of fucking stuff to manage the crew chief. And the driver's like, the driver's like analyzing you

right out of the gate. For sure. So you got to come in as a crew chief like, I got this, it's my team. I know where everything is. I know whatever,

I know everything we need to be doing right this minute. even if you don't. Like you got to fake it. And so, because the driver, the driver will completely lose confidence in the whole thing if he doesn't believe the crew chief.

And vice versa, man. Crew guys too. Yeah. And so if the, if the crew, you know, same thing, same for the driver and the crew chiefs of marriage.

I know it's silly. No, it's a, you're with each other a lot. Yes, it is a marriage. But it's a marriage in the sense of you've got to believe in them. And they got to believe in you. If one doesn't believe in the other, it immediately is apparent, and it freaking falls apart.

Yeah. It's terrible. Slowly falls apart. God, it's terrible. When you walk into the hauler and you know that the people in there don't think you're good enough to do it and they don't believe in you, they're the people that are working on your car. And you don't feel like that they believe you're the guy to do the job today? Oh, man. It's failure.

There's no. there's no running good then none at all it's going to be just a slow decline the long long a year and you're going to be hoping that maybe somebody makes a change in the offseason but it ain't you i brought a little gift today i forgot about this thing so i got this a little let me get this out so snowball derby i'm almost say 76 my grandfather robert g number 17 orange and white this is the headlight out of that car Darry Waltrip drove it during the race and some time or another

looks like he ran into the back bumper of another car this is the back bumper bar of another Camaro the crease he is going to the back well apparently this fell off a gentleman a friend of mine was nice enough to ask me if I wanted it and he's like I was there that day helping the team and this was kind of dangling on the car when we were loading it up,

and I asked them if I could have it, and they said yes. So this is around 70, maybe 74, 75, 76 at the latest. Snowball Derby, Robert G's Camaro, number 17, Darrow Walter, driving the car. And, yeah, so I brought it here, and there you go, TJ, you drove the Camaro painted like that. We had a plate like that on that. Just identical. You got any plans for what you're going to do with that? It's going to stay here.

That's awesome. Love it. So you're telling me that rivets over 50 years old or roughly. Yep. That's crazy. Yeah. Pretty cool. Yeah, it is awesome.

I was going to sit that on the shelf. And, oh, get that painting. Brought this too, man. I thought we could stick this in here because I didn't know where to hell to put it. After, so there was a, we had the Hall of Fame events. And after the Hall of Fame. if you haven't ever heard of the Thirsty Beaver, it's a bar in Charlotte,

it's kind of popular. After the Hall of Fame stuff, I went to the Thirsty Beaver, and I met Jeff Gordon, Ray Everingham, and Steve Phelps, and we had a couple of bruskees. And, yeah, so Ray Evernham,

I took this picture, and I put, I'm trying to put over here, I took this picture, and I put that filter on it. And then Ray copied the, picture off of his phone in the text

message and then made it into a canvas painting. It looks like a painting doesn't it? Look at that. How about that? I wonder what Jeff's saying. We are having a good, good time. I'm going to tell you that. So I thought I could hang that in here too. Because I mean, Amy ain't going to let me put that in the house.

And I don't want to put it in storage. It's kind of neat. That's pretty cool. Yeah. It's a good memory. It is a great memory. We had a fun night. Noah Gregson's here today. Noah has a special surprise. His throwback for Darlington is a throwback to the mom and pop's late model stock days. And honestly, the scheme really resembles Kelly. She's going to love that.

We got one for Kelly too. One for each of you. I'm thankful. B. Faroo is the sponsor on the car that weekend. How do you like Darlington? I love Darlington. It seems like your place. It's a cool place.

Cool place. How have you been? It's been good. Been going good. You got a new deal this year. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, our results aren't there.

But I feel like we've had speed at good times. We've got a strong team. It just doesn't show up on the result sheet yet. So we'll get there. Well, you will. You came out, you know, last year, you started the season off, had an awesome little string of top tens and stuff like that, kind of showcasing the real potential.

And then, you know, the wheels fell off of the whole thing. But I was pretty excited about your, opportunity to get into this deal with front row. And there are teammates and yourself as well, have kind of shown some great speed. That team's always kind of like a little engine that could, always kind of outperforming expectations, I think, from what our perception of the team would be.

But to kind of get out of the situation you were in last year and into this situation, what's the difference? I don't know if there's a ton different. it's a different organization, but my core group of guys are really close to the same. So we brought over my engineer, crew chief. So I have a lot of familiar faces within the team. We do have some new guys on our team, but it's one of those things where the transition has been really seamless going, it's almost like just moving houses, but you keep your family with you, you know, and you have all your same stuff. So it's been relatively easy. I mean, there's new people that I'm

working with and it's it's been good with zane and todd they're my good buddies off the racetrack too so it's a good group of young drivers yeah yeah we work together we push each other hard and we're it's not a forced relationship sometimes you have teammates where yeah you might not it's kind of like co-workers you might like some people more than others right and uh with with zane and todd we're good buddies off the track and our girlfriends or their wives they hang out and it's you got girlfriend's pretty easy Really? How long has that been going on? She told me last night that we met a year ago yesterday.

Oh, damn, you didn't celebrate. You've been keeping that under the wraps. Yeah, I'm not a big, like, put my relationship out there kind of guy. Just, I don't know, just a little more privacy. Okay. There's some weird people out there that stalker and... Don't let that backfire on you because Amy might get really pissed off that I said this, but

oh boy. I was the same way as you. Like when me and her started dating, I was like, you know, she was like, yeah, I don't want to go out to intros. And I'm like, yeah, okay, I kind of prefer that. And the story, so that was the way I was just like, yeah, man, it's just, all I care about is me and you

and you don't have to do this or do that or be here or put yourself there or you don't have to be with me all the time. it's not a thing. I don't care what the outside optics are. I'm just glad you're here and we're going to try this relationship out, right? And, but today she'll say that I am the reason, I kept her like hidden.

Really? Yes, that's the story now, like 20 years later, right? Or 15 years later, he's like, yeah, you kept me in the bus. Wouldn't let nobody see me? I'm like, no, I didn't. Like, wasn't ashamed of her. I wasn't trying to, like, hide the fact that I was in a relationship. Right?

Yeah. Be careful. I'm not trying to hide. I'm in a relationship. I just don't. Yeah, be careful. I can't believe you did that, Amy. Yeah.

I know. He used to tell me, Amy, he's like, man, I don't want to go out there. Shut up. Stay in the bus. I know. I like, well, I like that she didn't want to go out to, to go to intros because it's sometimes kind of chaotic. And I was worried because she wasn't, she didn't grow up around it. And I didn't know if she would be comfortable or nowhere to go.

And I'm like, I would be worried about that, right? instead of thinking about my race or my car. Man, when I left the bus to go to intros, I wanted to be like race car. That's how I, throughout the weekend, like, she kind of got mad at me and she'll probably listen to this, but I'm like, hey, maybe pick like one or two a month because I'm here to like work, not,

and I don't want to really have to worry about, like you said, her. And hey, you want to come out to the merchandise hauler with us or whatnot. Because there's really nothing. If I was making burgers at beef or real. Drew would she'd be sitting there in the lobby watching me make a burger? Make a burger? Probably not. And you don't.

I probably sound like a dick saying that. You don't. I know what you mean. My work is important. I know what you mean. Yeah. So like when you're, if you pray, if you take somebody, if you bring a girlfriend to the race, you're that, did she ever, does she around racing ever?

So right. So that's even more of the reason because you're like, hey man, you know, it's not as fun or it's not, there's not a lot for you to do. I'm worried that you're going to be like, hmm, I'm supposed to just sit in this bus, you know. Yeah, this sucks. I don't even have a bus, so she just sits in the holler. Yeah, right? And she's going to be like.

Yeah. And so you're worried. It can't be very fun now. Yeah. So your worry is that she's going to be not having fun. And then now you're worried about that all day instead of thinking about the things you need to be doing and work. Yeah, exactly. That's it in an issue.

And so you're actually thinking about her, very kind. Yes, very much. Love you. Oh, y'all are doing that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you didn't. Who said it first?

I don't remember. Yes, you do. You don't want to admit it. It would you. It would probably be me. Were you like nervous that she's going to say it back? No. So about this car.

I think I tried to wait until, yeah. We're getting off on a tangent. Are we? I'll figure it out. Let's keep going down this road again. We're making no uncomfortable right now. No. It's very uncomfortable.

I don't. It's hard. do. I don't get very much. I'm trying to think. I think I tried to hold out until she said it first. I'm like, okay, game on. Don't we all?

Yeah. You're going to get in so much trouble. Me? Oh, no. At this point, I'm, yeah. He's locked in. Locked in. So the race coming up this weekend.

Say it's going to be kind of warm. It's 85. That's what we're just, we just had a competition meeting. So going over. Martinsville stuff and then talking about Darlington, asking about track temp. They said it's going to be like 15 degrees hotter than it was last year. Yes. Perfect. Good stuff. Good stuff. Yeah. You ready got all you make all your cool suit, make sure

your cool suit and everything works. I was joking. I said I was going to double wrap and wear two cool shirts. So I only have one cool shirt. So can I borrow one of yours, TJ? My chief Drew asked me if I could ask you. What if one of mine goes out? Because I got two as well. TJ has a cool suit on the spotter stand. Are you actually wearing? it this weekend? What's the Sunday temp? 85.

That's 90 and above for me most time. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's the worst is when you get done with the race and the girls

or the PR people will be like, God, that was a hot race today. I know. It's like, shut up. I don't want to hear it. Yeah. So, man, I appreciate

you coming through. Thanks for honoring myself, Kelly, Carrie, growback. Awesome looking car. Thanks for the die cast. I'm now,

which I've, a lot of people might not know, but I'm a bit of a collector these days on diecast. That one's cool. The sun drop. Yeah, the sun drop one. Bandana car.

Yeah, I thought it was cool. That was your first, the mom and pop car was your first Xfinity or Bush series race. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So, um,

we're the number four. I spent four years racing Xfinity here. So, yep. There's like a lot of little ties there. Very much. On, uh,

you guys, were a big part of my career, both you and Kelly LW. It's good times over here. Dude, I was say, so when they said that you were doing this, I was, that's what was the coolest part for me was that you, you know, I know you, I know that you're, I know that you're appreciative and thankful of what we did together. And, and we are too, man, you were so much fun. You worked so hard.

It was awesome to see you get better on the track and off to track and just change and evolve and you gave us everything you could every single race. And I'm so thankful that it matters, that it matters to you as much as it does because, you know, doing stuff like that is pretty cool and lets me know that, you know, you, I know you do, but it just is another sign of the appreciation for what we, you know, what you learned here, what you did here, what you experienced here. And that feels good for all of us. I still stop by here probably once a month, once every two months.

Go see the engineers and hear all the craziness that's going on here. There's a lot of new faces here, though. The one thing I'll say about you, man, is that you're no bullshit. Like what you see, what people see about you and you're fun and kind of goofy and you'd like to keep things light. And that's really who you are. and the moments where the fans kind of get to see your, you know, how you might care about something or you do something trying to do a good deed or you try to help somebody or you choose to do the right thing.

Mostly, I'm talking mostly being outside the race car. That's really who you are, you know, and I really appreciate that about you. You know, and you've really, you know, done a great job on, you know, on yourself and, you know, we all try to get better and better every day. and you've done a really, really good job doing, because you've done that on your own, right? I've had a, I've had a lot of people in my corner. You've been in my corner.

I've called you late some nights. But I mean, there's, there's, there's, when the real decisions have to be made, you're having to do some of those by yourself, you know, when you're having to look in the mirror and you know, man, you know, I got to make a better choice than that, or I need to work on this or that and the other. You had a lot of people around you giving you advice,

but you had to do the work. And, you know, and that, We're talking about it with Sammy to an extent with this thing at Martinsville. It's like, man, I can tell him all the things, but he has to go forward. And he has to be the one that puts the effort in right to try to write the wrong there. And a lot of drivers, you know, some drivers struggle to kind of get that figured out, man. But I'm so proud of you. I love watching you on the weekends.

I love watching you just be an asset to the sport, a great personality. we have some really cool guys coming in. Your generation coming in with some fun ways to create content and all kinds of different things. You're eager to do it. You guys do some really great work with the stuff you're doing with your teammates on social media and so forth. I love it.

Keep it up. Keep being you. The results will come. We know you've got the talent behind the wheel. And yeah, thanks for coming by today. I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate it, guys.

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Thanks for tuning in. It's Asr Jr. here for our Dirty Air show on Tuesday. T.J. is here with me. Andrew's in there. As everybody knows, Xfinity has been a big supporter, not only the sport, but here, at Dirtymo Media as well. And NASCAR fans need to check out Xfinity Mobile. You can get speeds up to

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It's from the YouTube chat. It's for T.J. Iceberg said that you wrecked them on iraicing the other night. So what the hell? I saw somebody on Reddit say T.J. was a jerk on I race. I probably did. I'm sorry. You probably did?

I probably did. Is that your style? You just mowed through people? It's not, no, there's, he doesn't say that. TJ's reputation on eye racing is. Be careful. It's a bit touchy. Wow.

Is it? Yeah. People, he rubbs some people in the wrong way. You can't race. You can't race with him because if you go to a plate race, 30 of them lying up with him and then you're by yourself in a lane. And, uh, you know, but yeah, I'm sorry. They just know that I'm going to the front. So they just hit your ride.

It's pretty easy to go to the front when they're all following you. They're like, this guy knows what he's doing. TJ, just give an answer that all the choice I don't know what the giveaway is, but maybe the last. Yeah. I don't know. I had to do it. Are you going to follow an Earnhardt or a majors to the front at Talladega? Well, this one, I'm probably, we're going to wreck if we get near each other anyway, so it's better off.

That is the way we do it now. So me and T.J.'s raced online forever. Yeah. We used to race side by side for laps, not even touch each other. We used to race, get out of each other. Now, as soon as we get in a race together, within the first 15 minutes of the race, we've wrecked each other. Yeah. It's just a given.

It is. Why? I don't know. I mean. It is. We just do it because it's bound to happen. As soon as one person even gets the little thing, zero X, it's on. Like the gloves are on.

They're off at that point. You guys are inseparable. It's fun, though. We have a good time with it. There's the TJ sitting here at this table, and then there's the online TJ. This next question is coming from Jacob. This was from last week on Twitter, and he says they're rebuilding their house after Helene. And he wants to know what are the three must-house?

have items put in the new man cave he's building? Well, I must-haves for the man cave, beer cooler. I was going to say some sort of fridge. I love the slide-top beer cooler or the refrigerators that are the old vintage round. With the latch? Yeah, with the latch on the front. What about like a kegator to have draft beer? No, it's too much work, right?

What do you mean it's too much work? Too much work. Yeah. great the first time. No. But then after that, you're like, yeah, you can't just... Listen, Travis, this is experience here. My dad has a Kegraiter in our basement.

Did you work on it? Did you handle it? Did you ask him how much work it was? It's easy. You flush the system every so often to keep the... That's what you saw. You didn't see all the other work that goes into it. No, I would help him.

How old were you? There's no chance. Well, for the story, 21. I want to walk over to the cooler, open the door, grab it what you want. drink it. So let's put it all together, right? Keggerator, fridge, slide top, cooler, whatever.

That's the first thing that has to go in there. It's not a band cave without a beverage dispenser. To me, sound. Got to have some sort of good sounds. Bad-ass stereo. Absolutely. What about like a jukebox? Good old-fashioned jukebox?

No. I mean, that's okay, but. You just play stuff from your phone anyway, right? Yeah, people are just going to. Yeah, people are just going to. So I would do, and I, like, I would do is I would get a stereo, I would get the speaker system.

I wouldn't get a head unit or any kind of a stereo. I would just get the marine Bluetooth. So like the marine style Bluetooth, basically you mount that hidden away in the back somewhere and people can Bluetooth directly to it, play everything on their phone, all that's there, so you don't have like a rack of components or any crap like that.

Is that okay, Travis? I'm loving this so far. Very stripped down. Well, hopefully. That was only, hold on. That was two of the things, man. Oh, I thought the anything you could put a beer in was like one, two, and three. No.

Oh, okay. Oh, good. All right, keep going. What's your third? I mean, I mean, if you could put a urinal in there, it would be great. What? Yes. Urinals.

I love that. Maybe that's. Urinals are good. Because, listen. I think that was going. Yeah. So, um. Look, you know, if you're drinking beer, there's a lot of, you break the seal and then there's a lot of trips.

So, yeah, urinal, quick and easy. That way, because I'm going to tell you, if this is a, if this is like a man cave kind of dive bar, I told it. Oh, gosh. It's going to get his ass kicked. So the urinal saves you a ton of, you know. And then you get, you know, for the urinal, you can get the little soccer goal. Oh, yes. Yeah.

Those are so much fun. It makes peeing so much better. That's right. You said it. Not me. Sorry. I don't know why I'm so excited. Do they have like other sports or it's just soccer?

I mean, can this be a thing? When he goes into a bathroom and sees that, that's why we don't, it's why he didn't come out for a lot. Do you let, do you, your goal? Yeah, I do a little celebration. Put your shirt over your head. Hey, I will say this. First time ever saw one of those little soccer goal in the urinal was in Germany. I was in this town called, oh gosh, Rotenberg.

And it's very touristy. And the bathroom, so you go to the bars in this particular town, at least, and the bathrooms were clean and decorated like you were at your grandmother's. My mom's house. Oh, wow. Yes. Like it was all the bathrooms,

all the bathrooms and all the bars. What do you mean by your grandma's house? I mean, it had like nice wallpaper and a little flower in a vase. It was nice. Homey. Homey. Yeah, homie.

And, yeah, in the urinal, they had a little soccer goal. I was like, dang, that's kind of, I'd never seen it before. This was probably 2014.

Dang. So there probably is other sports you can get. If you don't put in a urinal, I think, you know, along with the sound system, you have to have a television, smart TV,

be able to watch all your sports. Or four. Like you square them off? Well, instead of getting the big screen, you get like four, you know, 42 inch or 48 inch or something like that, Rokos and you put them all together and

I've kind of wanted to do that. Have you done it yet? You haven't done it yet. We have that. That's what we have upstairs at Dirtymo Media. And in the office here. In the office here, we have a four TV setup and it's Roku because I've got an account so you can just kind of just put anything you want on each TV.

Yeah. Then we've got the sports ticker, gambling ticker across the top. Can you make all the TVs one though? No. Like I want to do that where you have, you can separate them into four or you could do one. I see the, I see the bezel. It's like, this is just a show off thing. Yeah, it's not seamless.

Yeah, I'm not even, this people aren't doing that to like really, truly watch a movie or sit down and watch a TV show. That's just some bullshit show off. Look, I can make four TVs Yeah, like if you are having a Super Bowl party And you want to put the Super Bowl on it Or you can make it one big screen for one event It's kind of pompous Poppice in my opinion

Well, you know Bezos on TVs now are like paper thin It's very pompous move Yeah, come on TJ I disagree The urinal was a good suggestion Sometimes I forget we're live Let's go This next question is coming from Lucas

How many alarms do you set One one yeah that's 645 wow and you just you you you get up yeah that's risky do you know that i don't get a choice when you have kids oh i don't even i didn't even set an alarm they're getting up really i don't have set an alarm yeah it's like six little after six they're getting you up yeah you know you just then you just start waking up early yeah it's weird so i was talking about this the other day i um just picking a year. Go back to 1995. I slept till noon. I could sleep till

noon. Never wake up. I never woke up at 10. Never woke up at 11. I could sleep all the way to noon. I slept until my ass woke up. I got up and I went to wherever I wanted to go, whether it was work on my car or whatever. And my grandfather, Robert G, he had what they

called bankers hours, they joked. He would work whenever he wanted to work. If he wanted to work at 2 o'clock in the morning, he worked at 2 in the morning on his race cars. And And, you know, so I kind of always did that as well. But when I got married and Amy's like, man, you can't sleep till noon. My dad didn't like it either.

He didn't love that I slept all morning. He would get up at four or five o'clock in the morning. He'd go to bed at nine, though, you know. You just went to bed. I went to bed whenever I fell. I still, like, stay up until I physically, like, I just can't, like, I'm so tired. And I know it's probably not the healthiest thing in the world, but. I just hate to go to sleep because I want to keep doing stuff around the house or whatever, right?

And so Amy will go to bed around, you know, 9 o'clock or 10 o'clock, and I'll stay up till 1.30 every night. Dang. And then I set an alarm for 6.45. She gets out of bed at around 615, starts getting the kids out of bed, and then I hop up and come downstairs feed the dogs and do do a few things, get the kids stuff in the car, get ready to take them to school. but to like I set an alarm because the one day that I don't I will sleep

she'll come up in there in a bedroom at 7.15 and go man you got 15 minutes to go take out of school the one day I don't set the damn alarm I'll sleep through it but if I do send an alarm I usually wake up before it goes off

I set two at the racetrack but kids when you have kids I understand that too when you're scared you're going to be late for work That's me. That's right. I might, yeah.

So if there is like a job or a thing, I might set to. Yeah, I might set two. Yeah. Just to be sure. There's always a backup because if you hit snooze or hit stop on the first one. Or you, you're so tired when you said it, you forgot to put it on a.m. And it's on PM. Oh, gosh.

I've done that before. God dang. I've done that a couple times. But I. At least two if you're responsible. But the answer is, is like when you have kids, they change you. Yeah. From the person that can sleep past 10 in the morning, any old day, they change you to the person that automatically will wake up at 7 in the morning every single day.

No matter if you went to bed at 5, you will wake up at 7. It takes a little while to transition to that, but once you get there, there's no going back. You'll wake up and you'll be like, why did I wake up? And then all of a sudden, way off in the distance, you'll hear a little four-year-old giggling. And you're like, oh, yeah. Even when you're alone, you wake up. The kids are up. Even when you're alone, you still wake up.

Yeah. Like, it's automatic. When you leave the house and you're at work or travel in somewhere, still, seven in the morning. Yeah. Oh, dang. Yeah. I like it because then I can text Amy. Amy's at home taking care of the kids and she's frustrated or she's slightly

envious, right, that I'm wherever I am, right? And whether I'm on vacation or working. and but I'll wake up and as soon as I wake up I text her morning even if I go back to sleep even if I go back to sleep for another hour 5.30 guy to go to the bathroom

we're up here just do a scheduled text we're up here too oh yeah you can do those now that's the smartest thing he's ever said I know because they'll be like I bet his ass is sleeping in

yeah I bet he's laying bed sleeping I'm up making bacon you know you can do it like 623, 631, just do different times. Yeah, make it seem random. Yeah. Good idea. You're welcome, TJ.

Thank you. That could backfire, I'm sure. I'm not doing that. I have three alarms set for 613, 615, and 617. Just wake up, just when the first goes up. Just get out of bed. I got two buffers. It's a good system.

It works. This next question coming from J.R.M. Designs 7. Who has your 2017 homestead car? You're like your last cup race car. Me. You do. Me, yeah, mine. Mine.

Mine. Mine. I don't know why I said mine. Me. I have it. Beer can's still in the back. Really? Yeah.

So is that a lot of the cases for those cars that they're mostly untouched? Oh, I don't know. I know that the 2014 Daytona 500 winners over at Hendricks as it, you know, came off the racetrack and went into the Daytona Museum. my Wrangler number three car that I won the Xfinity race with is still as it came off the racetrack I have that So yeah I mean cool yeah

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Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen. Place your bets. All right, it's time for Dirty Mode. Alex Sims come into the studio and we're going to talk about all of the great bets that we made this past week on Fanduel. Fanduel sponsoring our Dirty Mo Doe segment. And, man, I've had a little rough go. I'm not really losing any money, but I ain't making it either. I'm just kind of sitting there.

Just coasting. Up and down, up and down and every couple bucks. Yeah, me too. I had a bad weekend this weekend. Did you? Yeah. Oh, no. well we all all of our

I think all our predictions went in the tank yeah it was really kind of like a chalky race I guess favorites were up there no real long shots AJ and SVG really didn't show up for us they didn't but SVG was fast and I wasn't gonna make the bet I made it it was good odds on it it was like 13 to 1 I was surprised AJ didn't do better the Josh Barry top 10 probably would have netted out

if you hadn't had trouble on the batteries but um so you You didn't. No, I took some shots with Ty Gibbs and Hosevar, and Gibbs probably would have had it if he didn't get spun there by Reddick. Yeah, he was looking decent. Yeah. I was happy with my pick right there.

Yeah, but honestly, like the sports books, they really, they left the odds pretty, like, you're going to have to pay a price for the guys you want. Yeah. And it really wasn't a great weekend, I think, for betting. I've been trying to bet put together like three or four-leg parlayes with the first inning on the Major League Baseball under one and a half run. And I hit two or three of those out of the gate, but haven't had any look in the last couple days. It's a rare offensive start to the year for baseball. Those torpedo bats are taken only by storm.

But only the Yankees had those, right? No, they're all over now. Yeah. The Yankees are just getting it's publicized more. These bats have been in use since 23. Yeah. I don't know what you're talking about bats. They got good bats now or something?

Apparently they took wood from the end of the bat and moved it to the barrel. So it's like you have more surface area, I believe. I could be wrong about that. You're like sweet spot has more. More wood. But if you miss, you're probably striking out. Yeah. Yeah.

I got you. Did you take Tim's advice last night? Any of you guys? No. The Dodgers bet? No. Dodgers minus one to half. Never a doubt.

Six one victory. Wow. There was a trend that was they were in this situation. They were 27 and three in the last like a couple years. I did. There's the receipts. And there's receipts. Well,

I didn't. I wish I would have tailed that. The best part is the bet was the game started like 10 o'clock. 10 o'clock. So go to bed. The game hasn't started. Wake up a winner. Well, all right, we're going into Darlington and yeah, I'd be curious to hear what you think about

the best bets for that. I've already made one bet, win bet. I like Chase Briscoe. He's plus 1600 right now. Not the fact that he won the last race there. Yeah, but really going on to limb here. I'll be honest, I thought he would be like under plus 1,000, and his odds are plus 1,600. So I like that.

That's pretty good. You got the past winner, and you got Joe Gibbs racing on a tear. And yeah, and he's, and him, he's gotten a couple really good finishes here. I think they're going to catch that peak right here. William Byron statistically is the best driver here in NextGen, and he's plus 950. That's not great, but it's the fifth highest. So he probably should be up there with Larson Reddick, in my opinion.

And the other guy is Joey Lugano plus 1900. I mean, he has not finished at all this year. But he's led a lot of laps. He's been there. It doesn't take much for that to finally go your way. So that's another good bet. Well, but he's leading laps from swapping stages and stuff. Like they're taking stage points instead of like and hoping to get a solid finish out of the same approach they did last year.

Yeah. They're doing the opposite of what a lot of people do and capitalizing on stages and stuff right now. But you're right. Eventually something's going to fall. but I don't know this is a tough one to have that at Yeah

There's a couple of long shots too I like Or chastain, Busher And Priest is plus 5500 to win I like him top 10 better He's on a top 10 run right now

But it's a good long shot If you want something I mean Ross is definitely one Ross is one that I would go with For sure Ross And you know Butcher

He finds his way there He does a really good job Of hanging out in these races And being there near the end Yeah Yeah So for some reason I'm wanting to say, I don't know, man, something tells me that like Todd Gillen's going to jump up there in one of these. I don't know.

And I really feel like Ty Gibbs has been strong there and learned a lot last year racing there and how to race that place. And I think he could have a quietly solid day. Yeah, the top 10 odds aren't out as we're recording this, but Ty Gibbs was on my short list to see where he's at. His win odds tell me they're going to get some good plus money on that one. And then Justin Haley, too. For some reason, I like Justin Haley this weekend with Ronnie Childers. I don't know. They had that top 10 two weeks ago, but I think this obviously more of a driver's track.

What's McDowell's odds? To win, I have him. Or top 10. Top 10's not out yet. To win, he's plus 15,000 to win. You take a little bit on that? I mean, if I'm throwing darts. Yeah, that's a super long shot.

Yeah. He's in company with like Zane Smith, Daniel Swarres in that kind of range. I just feel like he's. The Daniel Suarez one to me might be interesting for like a top 10. So Daniel was running. Daniel will be the kind of guy that like you did this this past weekend. You're sitting there watching the race and you look at the top 10. You're like, damn, Daniel Suarez sitting there running 6th.

And when you look at the racing insights, I know that track houses had their struggles. but when you look at the racing insights information Daniel's in the top 15 in all passing defense speed restarts pit crew his pit crew on the season average is third his restarts are eighth he's 13th and 15th in the defense speed and passing so and I it's my opinion

that Daniel if Daniel if I were to say where will Daniel run well it's at these worn out gritty grimy rough racetracks like a Darlington. And I don't know. I mean, it

might be a stretch to say it gets the top ten, but if the odds are really good, that would be something fun to do, maybe to throw in a couple legs on some top tens and have him one of those. Their homestead speed scares me

a little bit here. That's a good point. That's a very similar sort of surface and balance. Yeah, that scares me a little bit, but it is a hard track to pass. And if you give Daniel, like you said, a good pit crew comes out, gains a couple,

he could easily run, you know, fit the eighth, nine, somewhere in there and be quiet and be solid. When I think about Darlington, I don't think about Daniel Swarhus. Yeah. I just feel like he's over, he's overachieving a little bit. Yeah, quietly. Yes, quietly.

And some, he might, I don't know if you can bet top 15s even, but. No, not quite, but you could, there might be some bets on finishing position, which he could be on there. My kind of bet to make would be to parlay three top 10s. but you go like heavy with like hamlin the reddy clarson i would put like a long shot long shots long shots really yeah that's a tough it's a tough tough it's a tough it's not it's not your bet no but like from a betting standpoint though well i mean you're talking like three long shots three three long shot guys to finish top ten is a

little it's rare i get it i maybe i throw you know a c bell in there like somebody that you know is probably going to be a top tenor yeah i would throw maybe i kind of tiered, you know, very heavy favorite, mid-guide, long shot. Yeah. For top 10. Or I just bet the long shot separately. Yeah. But I saw that the tire they're running is similar to the one at Vegas.

How much stock do you put into that, the Vegas race? I would say now, not so much the Vegas race, but drivers do have tires they prefer. Drivers do have like the thickness of

the sidewall, the stiffness, the way the tire feels. Yeah, it gives them a great feel. Yeah. They attack, they will like man, they'll perform better on a style of tire versus another one. There'll be trends that you can follow. If you really wanted to dive, dive deep.

So like way back you know, middle of my career, there was a year where we had we had tires that had a little bit different sidewalk construction. And I always liked those better because I understood where the car was and the grip of the car. So I mean, I think there's probably still some of that going

on. So if a guy really struggled at Vegas, you probably would maybe influence you to stay away. Maybe. This is probably a good one for Chase Elliott, wouldn't you say? What's his numbers? Chase is up there. I don't have the exact number in front of me, but his win odds are, he's plus 2100, actually. So that's actually a really good win bet.

Yeah. Yeah. My thing is he needs to like, he led us some laps at Martinsville, but I want to see him. Great speed. Yeah, they did. But I want to see him like dominate a race like he used to for me to win a race. Because he just really has been leading a lot. He's been second-third all the time.

What's Bubba's? Bubba is plus 1,700. Don't love that value. No. I think he's a guy that if he doesn't qualify quite up there, you can probably get a better number there. Bushers plus 2,600 to win. He's always in that category, though.

He's one of those guys like Bowman. You can get value on him if you catch him on a good week. I think Alex is... I might do top 10. I would do a top 10 parlay with Busher, Suarez, and Chase.

Wow. Chase is, I'll be interested to what Chase's top 10 number is here because his win odds tell me it's going to be a better number we've seen. I won't, I can't bet, but I wish I could because that'd be a fun one to follow it. Yeah.

That would be. I actually like that. All right. That might be the best bet of the show. Oh. What do you go? Only if it hits. This 30 mode.

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checking all that out. Great instant raw feedback from Jeff and Jordan and right after the race. On Monday, Denny was back in the studio after his first win of the season. He had a buddy with him. Yeah, Bozzi. Don't ask me how to pronounce his last name.

I didn't put it on there for you either because of that reason. Well, he's a badass follow on Twitter. He's really good with the pit crew stuff, some valuable information. I think Denny didn't even understand some of this, like, knows some of the stuff that he was telling. Well, I'm glad that Denny had a guest on. That was a good step forward for Denny. It was fun. His podcasting career.

Look at him. Look at him go. Doorbumpur Clear also dropped on Monday. We had the incredible Mark Martin. Mark the kid Martin. What a badass he is. A perfect guess for what happened on Saturday. I know, yeah.

So Mark came in on Zoom and did a great job. And so awesome episode of Doorborder Clear this week. My interview with Casey Mears will come out Wednesday. Casey's coming through the studio and you will not want to miss that. We'll talk about his experience in the cup car this past weekend, but also certainly touch on his career path and learn everything we can about that. Also on Wednesday, Herman Schrader in Speed Street come out, as usual. Two great shows.

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Even drink wear. Random as hell, but we've got it. Drink wear. Hey, great show today. Had a lot of fun. Hopefully we didn't piss too much. people off. Look, when we have weekends like we had at Martinsville,

not everybody's going to be happy. What's the rest of your week look like? Get ready for Darlington. Got to get ready and get Carson's third trip there. Get Carson ready to go down there and come out of there with a solid finish and get back on track with Brad. We were looking okay on Sunday and then we were on pit road when the caution came out. We had just pit and we were a, a quix.

corner away from getting a lap back, which would have put us in a much better spot. So, but yeah, good on there. And Darlington is one of my favorite tracks. I like going down there. When do you leave? Friday evening. We got a little practice on Saturday. Practice and qualifying Saturday morning, so I'll go down Friday night and avoid speeding

through MacB and Pagelan. Yeah, I'm going down there Saturday morning and sit on, I'm going on Sammy's pit box this weekend. I sat on the Carson's last week. I think I'll see what's going on with that eight car this weekend. Yeah. A little Saturday trip. Yeah. I'm going to go down there, watch the Xfinity race, and then come home.

I mean, you could always stay and watch a cup race. Was this, not to extend this, but was this scheduled? Or was this part of the reason is from everything that happened on Martinsville, you want to head down? I was already going. Okay. But I know people are going to think that. With what happened at Martinsville, that decided where I would sit. I want to show some support from my.

guy. That's good. I know everybody's mad at him. I am too, but he's still our driver here at Dumaresports. We got a season to finish and try to kick some ass.