The Dale Jr. Download - Nobody's Complaining About A** Kickings

Episode Date: May 13, 2025

Dale Earnhardt Jr. returns to the studio to recap the NASCAR weekend in Kansas on this week’s edition of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to chat about Kyle Larson’s dominant performance and more:Hopping in the CARS Tour broadcast boothThe Kansas race was compelling despite Larson’s dominanceFans aren’t complaining about dominant performancesThe big three is now about teams instead of driversDefense is now an artformCarson Hocevar is a personality the sport needsDuring the Ask Jr. segment of the episode, listeners sent in questions about:Dale’s TV broadcasting rehearsal for PrimeSinging with Kenny Chesney on stageFavorite beach gamesHow drivers decompress after a race Dirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They’ve got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuff.And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMediaFanDuel disclaimer: Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call [phone] for 24/7 support in Massachusetts, or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York.  Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What bet did I have? I had a top 10 parlay. You did. And it cast. Oh, boss. Yeah. Oh, heck yeah. Who is the man. All right. Everybody throw your money in there. I'm not going to lie.

It's the first thing I thought about when I saw that. Party time. The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm still sour, man, that I wasn't your best man at your wet. When will you start mentally, like, getting ready for the race? Can you not tell I'm mentally ready? Travis has some dumb ideas, but I agree with them on this one. though.

Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about. You haven't scratched the surface yet. I mean, what the fuck do you won't? I just think the last few laps, it was just like stop every time. You're picky. This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker. All right? This ain't Burger King.

Travis is like, fucking wrapped us up. They all have no fun around here. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download is Tuesday's 30 air. And TJ's here. My co-host, how's it going, TJ? It's going really good.

How's things going? Man, it is going. We got a busy week. I'm headed to New York City this week to talk about the Earnhardt documentary, the four-part series that's coming out on Amazon. And pretty excited about that. It's worth it.

It's worth a watch. It's worth the time. But we got a premiere of that coming up soon, which will be pretty fun. Some of the industry will be getting together to watch the first episode of that. But after the trip to New York City, I come home and then go right into the booth

to work the races for the cars tour this weekend. I believe on Thursday night, our pro class, our pro-late models are going to be racing 75 laps at North World Sparrow. Own Flow. And I'll be in the booth with Eric, who's our lead or who's one of our play-by-play guys with Blake McAnliss in the booth. But Eric, me, and Harvick are going to be in the booth on-flow Thursday evening for the pro-late model Cars Tour 75 Lapper at North Wiltsboro.

Then Friday night, it'll be simulcast. That means it'll be on both Flow and Fox Sports One. That'll be the late model stock part of the Cars Tour event in North Willsboro. Big network. Yeah. You're nervous. No. 100 laps for the late model stocks.

And it's a, so the, you know, it's an all-star weekend around Wilkesboro, big deal. So to have us, they got the modifies there. It's great for the modifies. And we've also been part of this weekend for a couple of years now. And it is massive for the cars tour to be able to be there. Whether we're racing on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, the closer we can race to the, all-star event and is the better because more fans are coming into town more fans are going to be able to see what we're doing and get a taste of what this series is all about and so I think

we are over 40 entries for the late model stock probably might cap out around 45 and our pro late model class is nearing the 30 car entry mark so man 70 plus cars for for for our two classes. I'm pretty happy with that. A big deal for the Cars Tour to be racing this weekend at Wilkesboro. Again, I'll be in the booth for both shows. You can watch both the pro and the late model stock

Thursday and Friday night on flow, but you can also see the Late Malstocks Friday live on Fox Sports One. I'm looking forward to it. So you know, like, you know how it is when you traveled. If there was another series at the track, you like to go watch, like, Modified has raced it, loud, and you always like

to kind of keep an eye on that. You know, Being at the track, you know, knowing the late models are going to be there. It's kind of like talked about in the garage area. Like, hey, you're going to the late mall race? You're going to be there for that? Like, so people are excited about the industry is excited for it. All the great drivers coming out of the cars tour. Corey Hime, Josh Berry, Carson Quaple.

Butterbean. Butterbean. Another win this weekend for him. Time to get an Xbox. Cating Honeycutt. A bunch of good talent coming out through the series. If you want to be, you know, if you want to have a chance to kind of be racing in front of right people and get attention on what you're able to do behind the wheel of a race car.

Plus, I think the car is the best place to earn racecraft. Tell me another series out there. I'll put it up against any of them in terms of trying to just teach somebody how to race and get through an event. Learning how to race across the finish line. Doesn't happen much these days for a lot of kids that are coming up. They get into super fast cars and then you get to an arc of car or something and you lead every lap.

You don't learn anything leading every lap. Yeah. Like, you just don't learn any racecraft. I think Carson Hosevar's a badass talent. But I wonder what the perception, general perception, might be of him had he gained through the cars tour and learned how to, you know. Well, did he? How to not piss everybody all?

Yeah, did he drive a race car or do you drive a snow plow on the car's tour? I'm just curious. I don't know. I don't know what that reference is, T.J. Well, he likes to hit a lot of stuff. I know. Well, he would learn to stop that quick in our series. Some people don't like to learn, though.

Well, he won't. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. Hey. Cars tour. Let's move on. Cars tour. One more time.

Cars tour. Let's move on. I could say that all day long. We could do an hour of that. Cars tour. You asked me if I was nervous about being in the booth. I did a little rehearsal for Amazon. Yeah, how'd that go?

It went good. We'll talk about it later than the show. We did one for TNT earlier weeks ago. and so both of those, I don't want to talk about it too much because Travis will get upset. Yeah. But we had a really,

we had a lot of fun. Are they similar when you do them though? Are they very similar or are they two different landscapes? Well, but I also, I want to say, also, and a lot of people might not have caught this, I was in the booth doing the pro late model race in Orange County a couple weeks ago.

Accidentally. I didn't really intend on doing that. Yeah. And it ended up in there for a while. Yeah. And so I feel pretty good about doing this pro and late model stock race for the car store. And I went over and did Harvick's podcast this week.

We talked about that a little bit. Man, that was interesting. We talked about everything. Really? We did like a 30-minute interview, and we were all over the place. Can't imagine. Yeah.

It was interesting. I mean, you know, I'm curious watching Harvick kind of get into this broadcast and stuff. Yeah, and how his stuff flows. Yeah, and seeing how he does an interview and all that. And, but it was fun. And I was thankful for them to ask me to come over to do that but uh we are uh yeah we're gearing up getting ready because i go to work here soon um

we got the all-star racing uh in uh wilksboro and then then yeah i'm working then we're not talking about that till later in the show not until later yeah can't do it travel something going on and ask junior yeah yeah denny bros gets mad denny bros will be mad if we ruin asked junior but um He's mad now. He is mad. I'm not mad. Fans just were asking about, so we're saving for us junior.

All right, so let's react to Kansas. I, can I talk about this? So I was doing a practice broadcast. Is that okay? Yeah. It's okay. Let me know when I've gone too far, Traves.

Okay. I was doing a practice broadcast for Amazon. Is that okay? Yeah. Okay. I was doing a practice broadcast for Amazon with Steve LaTart and Adam Allen. and we were over at the NASCAR building next to the Concord Airport.

And so I watch all the races, obviously, but we were broadcasting this one. We did it from start to finish, and I really enjoyed this race. I know a lot of people, so Larson wins the pole, sweeps the stages, wins the race. But honest, and there's some, you know, people thinking, I see people on social media and even people in our industry. talking about an ass whooping, I didn't see it that way. Honestly, there were some points in the race where particularly Chase Elliott took control of the race. And I know Brad drove up there and passed him, Larson. I know Brad was on flat, you know, low air pressure hacking away to run those fast lap times

and ended up biting him in the ass. Good job, T.J. Yeah. But still, Larson at that point in the race looked like. Like, you know, hey man, what's going, you better get together here. Barely top five. Not dominant. Yeah.

Not an ass kicking. And so they had to go to work, get control of the race back. And there was a restart where Legano just about cleared him. Now, I don't know if Ligano had enough race car to stay there if he were to get the lead. And then on the final 15 laps of the race, Blaney and. And Josh Perry outpaced the five car by five to six seconds. Yeah. It was crazy how fast those two cars were at the finish.

And I was watching at the end, too, the five, I thought the five was shredding the tire, kind of like Josevar did. Hosevar had a flat with about three to go. That was a close call for everybody because if he brings that yellow out, they don't want to do that, be inspired in the connection. I do. Did he not have a problem coming up? on there at the end? No. He just slowing down.

Yeah, he thought he'd have vibration. Yeah. Tons of, there's, you know, there's tons of rubber that builds up on the inside of the wheel and all over the car. By this point, you could see it flying off the car. And I thought, yes, the tires unraveling or the tires down to the cords, but apparently that was not the case.

He was panicking a little bit inside the car. He wasn't saying anything over the radio, but he was losing pace slowing down. He was. And that's usually the sign of... In protect mode. Oh, yeah. He thought, he wasn't sure if he might be in the cord. Yeah. And, but apparently he was, he was fine, at least on the right front, the right rear.

I don't think he had a very good at the end. I don't think he was the best long run car at the end of the race. He wasn't even the best long run car at the middle of the race. That's how Chase ran him down. Ran him down, yeah, and past him. And past him, right? Because he was, he was struggling there if they went long. Luckily, the stages, the stages were in such a way that they could split them in half and he

never really had to push the car into that area where he struggled on the long run. But there were a couple of, moments when they did and and that was there was a handful of cars that weren't very good in a long run and just to tell you the like the difference from the beginning of the race because we started in the very back uh working on the car we had to go to the tail end anyway humble brag right there we started in the back the very back drove up to second i'm just in a second but your lap time difference exploded a tire we exploded it the lap time difference is four to seven tenths a lap yeah from whenever you're in the top two or three to where you're in the past should have thought

about that when you got up front you should have thought about that yeah we just your air pressure. Yeah, we should have slowed down, I guess. No, you could just put more air in a tire. Well, maybe I had too much. Going faster, you're going to load it more? So the, you know, the race was entertaining because to me it wasn't clear that Larson was just going to win easily. And there were, in the final stages, a lot of restarts and opportunities for other people to try to take advantage of that.

there were some really, really good races going on between drivers from second on back throughout most of the day. Of course, the restarts are always bonkers, tons of fun to watch three and four wide. A lot of guys make. So nuts there. It is. It's so nuts. Kansas is being punished for last year's race, how great it was. And this one wasn't equal.

So it's like it's not a good race. But no, it doesn't have to be that great to be good. Listen, I don't know why it wasn't a good race. That's what I'm saying. To me, to me, that race was prototypical NASCAR. If I showed up with no expectations, I'd been a satisfied fan. To your point, Travis, we were all like, oh, man, you know, just like Charlotte. Charlotte has been insanely good, right?

So I'm going into the 600 going, it's ought to be, yeah, I'm expecting. to be entertained. No problem. Now, was, I agree, I'm not going to argue, Kansas wasn't as entertaining as it had been in the past, but it was still, it still, what was so much better before though? I don't, well, there was some more drama field finish, you know, cars, cost some finish line, closest finish in history. But you can't have that every single race. And Denny said, like, no one, yeah, I agree with you. It's not Larson's fault that the other driver is screwed up. That's another thing. That's another thing.

So there were some comments from some drivers. Larson was one of them and Blaney was one of them. And listen, so there's been some duds of some, there's been like six or seven duds of a race, right, up until Texas. Texas was pretty entertaining, right? But before Texas, we had like a stretch of races on Jeff Gluck's good race pole that was like 50 and below. and that was real. There was real concern from fans.

That was, it was genuine, it was a genuine complaint, right? And somebody said to Larson, you're looking forward to coming to Kansas after the last several weeks, you know, how the racing's been kind of ho-hum, and he's like, you know, him and a couple other drivers, Blaney included, were like, well, Well, you know, races, if a guy kicks ass, doesn't mean it's a bad race. Nobody's complaining about ass kicking.

Nobody ever did complain about Larson or anyone else kicking ass and just kicking pure ass all day long. Nobody's ever... I think that's an accompli. Like, nobody complained about that. Yeah. Like, I don't know where Larson and Blaney are going with that comment because nobody complained about the ass kicking. What we complained about are the things that the drivers were complaining about and have been complaining about. The car doesn't race well

It's short tracks The car is difficult and dirty air It's amazing at the mile and a half And so we're excited to go to Kansas And Charlotte and all the mile and a half Because it's good there But it doesn't race on It doesn't really race well in some other areas

Or you know we come out of Talladega And It was You know there's a lot of comments from drivers About how it races at Daytona and Talladega All the fans just agree with that That's all we're doing is just agreeing with what we're hearing from drivers we we see the race play out at a short

tracker talladega we see something we see a you know product that we don't not really entirely in love with the drivers get out and tell us why it looks that way and we go okay great we agree that's and and so i was a little bit confused by that nobody has ever nobody was ever really complaining that somebody's kicking too much ass um But if Larson's been insane this year, and if it continues to be, I think the purest and the fans who truly, you know, enjoy the sport will appreciate a good ass kicking. But, you know, so that was interesting, I guess, the comments. And I wasn't, I'm just reading them from text on a Twitter app out of context, no tone.

I'm not there listening to it But did you guys have an opinion about that at all? I think it's right. I think there's valid concern at some of the places like short tracks And the Super Speedway is where the racing Just doesn't get as quite as good as we could be Or we have experienced in the past.

I do think Kansas and a mile and a halfs are really good races now. I think these guys are so precise but their passes and the windows that they're clearing cars and the windows that they're positioning these cars in is insanely tight. The drivers have been on the lead front about the short track package, about Daytona, Taledega, about the, just, listen, the car can, the car can be great everywhere. You know, just trying to figure out what that combination is that it needs to be a good short track car

or to be a better super speedway or Daytona Taldega car, so you can pull out and make moves and do what you want at the end. The race instead of having to stay in line. So the drivers have been at the lead front of that debate, and I just feel like that was a missed opportunity for them to continue to carry on that tune. And they pawned it off onto this narrative that doesn't even exist around people saying that the races are boring because somebody. he's dominating them.

I know that people have said that about Larson because he does dominate races from time to time more often than most. But the racing's good. He led a ton of laps. He has led more laps than anybody this year. 200, coming into Kansas, he was 200 laps more than the next guy.

And laps led, his teammate William Byron. He doubled that on the field. He was up 200 laps. I think he had 596 laps total lead or something like that. He goes into Kansas and added another 200 or some... So, I mean... Just an easy 200. Nobody's complaining about that.

We all know he is literally in the conversation for the best, greatest driver currently in the world. And so to see him go dominate is not a shock, you know, or disappointment. And I thought, but anyways, I thought, you know, the race, I didn't understand that kind of... That was like a Friday conversation going on on social media that I saw a lot of, right? I really didn't understand that. But, you know, the summer stretch will be different.

We're at Kansas, go to Charlotte. There's a lot of intermediates, Michigan, Pocono, Michigan. Pocono. It's like we go, bam, back to back to back to back to back to back to them damn tracks in the summer. It's the oddest thing they put Pocono almost a month apart. We got some really good stretch of races coming. You remember back when we used to race Pocono twice and it was literally like 30 days apart. Yeah.

It was. And you'd kick ass in the first one, take the exact same back and couldn't even be running in top ten. We did win both of them in the one year, though. But I mean, yeah, we got road course. It got all kinds of things going on in the summer. So this conversation will quell somewhat until we get back to, you know, Daytona Talladega and do some more shit like that.

It doesn't help when they're back-to-back. Like, you know, like when you go to a, you know, like a Martinsville and then back-to-back it with like a, you know, something else that doesn't race good. Do you think the bigger problem is it's also the same people winning? Not really. I don't feel like it's that repetitive. I don't feel like it's that repetitive.

I don't either. Like we got the big three dominating. You always have that. We got the note. In the note, it says big three dominating. That used to be drivers. Now we're going to be talking about organizations. It's true.

Used to be drivers. Just a couple years ago, it was Truex, Kyle Busch, and Harvich winning like 80% of the races one year. It was ridiculous. Yeah. So, yeah, we're nowhere near that. And you still have, you know, you still have the potential for, I mean, you know, you still have potential for guys, new guys. There was a point in that race yesterday or Sunday where there was a ton of dudes in the top 10. that hadn't won races or were about to have some seriously respectable results.

And you see Spire with Hosevar and those guys kind of creeping up into the top ten. So I think that if it was just like if the top ten looked the same every week and the guys running first and second and third, yeah, then you'd have an argument. But anyhow, Larson wins the race, pretty compelling drama and storyline throughout the day. Byron had a tire issue early. He probably screwed over a bunch of people's bets by messing up. I know it was really his fault. But, yeah, they got bit by the tire.

So NASCAR changed the left side tire. The team showed up in practice. They went out there and everybody was having left for their tires go down. So everybody in the garage went, we've got to put a little more air in the left side tire. So because if the lower they run the tire pressure, the more the car will travel, that gets the diffuser close to the ground and creates more down for us. they've probably got everything they can in the suspension to be able to get the car low as they can get it now.

The only thing left is taking air out of the tire. They do that, but eventually the tire will fail. And so they have to find out where that line is. And as NASCAR changes the tire, that number and that air pressure number, that sweet spot changes. And the teams also have to think about, so when the car's cold, all the brakes, everything's cold,

you're going to go out on the racetrack, and by lap four, air pressure is going to be X. Well, when you go into the race and you get everything hot, and then you pull, you know, you throw on a set of tires in the middle of the race, just rolling around under caution, you're going to build a pound of pressure. So now you've got to be thinking about things, a little dynamic, things like that. So you can pull more air out, get a little more aggressive, well, we're too far, blowing left for your tire hit the wall.

So that's what the teams are doing all day at Kansas and some of these other mile and a halfs with this tire. But you saw a lot of issues in the first practice. Everybody saw it. Everybody fixed their shit. Second practice, race, not a ton of problems. Teams get aggressive in the race. A couple teams get bit.

That gets the field's attention. Everybody starts getting back conservative again. Late in the race, teams get more aggressive. It's the last run of the day. We're going to swing for the fences. Speeds are faster because it's 4 or 5 o'clock in the afternoon. Fastest part of the day for the racetrack. you know late in the race people start having tire issues again um it all it's a fun thing i think

that's a fun dynamic i love that yeah i do too i know the good year doesn't love it because they probably catch a little shit for it but it's not their fault no it's the teams being very aggressive with air pressure yeah always yeah but they have to be think about in this next gen car there's very few things that the teams can tinker with so like this is something that a team can try to gain an advantage and i like that yeah hey it's dale junior did you know that we've got brand new merch from our Star Stripes and Bears Collection available now. We've got tanks, teas, beach towels, and more just in time for summer. Check it all out at shop.dirtymomedia.com.

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In practice, it looked like Denny Hamlin might be the best. Denny Hamlin has been incredible at Kansas. In terms of just sheer speed, I put him against anybody at Kansas over the last several. years you got four wins there in the next gen he's been really good just can't seem to put it all together uh for whatever reason in the last couple of trips but i mean this one go i go get on fiend him i'm gonna let you in i'm gonna let you in calm down beating on the fiend door here to defend his buddy we don't have many mechanical failures like that and that's literally the first clutch failure of any kind that I've really heard about,

but I'm sure there's more to the story, and nothing nefarious, just a odd occurrence. I mean, these things are kind of like tanks in terms of the nuts and bolts these days. How they're builts really well. Yeah, so just a really unfortunate deal for Denny. But going to the big three dominating,

I thought about this, so when we were doing our little, Amazon practice broadcast before the broadcast, they said, what's your driving thought? You know, they go to each broadcaster, each analyst, and say, what are you paying attention to? And I was like, well, I feel like, you know, we used to talk about the big three when I came into broadcast,

and that was kind of always a storyline, who are the dominating drivers? Well, I think the big three has changed to now its organizations. With this race car, it's like all organo, like when one, when one team figures it out, the whole organization moves. forward because the cars are so similar. And the way they set them up when one finds something very good, they all just do it.

And the drivers have to adapt to it and drive it that way. They set it up to go fast, and that's the fast way for this car to go, and you figure it out and go out there and drive it. And so I think that the big three has now shifted to organizations, obviously Hendrick, Joe Gibbs Racing, and Penske. and out of the gate this year and still today, I really feel like that Penske has been the most consistent team to be at the top of the speed charts. And they were there, they were fast at Kansas. They were fast at Kansas in the fall.

I think Blaney had the best car for most of that race. If you were to rank the Penske cars, what would you rank them right now? Blaney, Josh Barry, Ligano Cendrick. Okay. That's my,

yeah. I know Barry's technically the Wood Brothers, but it's Blaney assisted enough. I mean, it's a Penske assisted car. I call it a Penske car. You know,

equipment-wise. For sure. Yeah. And so, I'll put him in this group. The Wood Brothers, very prideful people. No disrespect.

But there is a connection there and I have to include him. Oh, for sure. So. And it shows. Yeah. I think. that Hendrick, up until this race,

this is my opinion before the race. Penske was the fastest, which is odd because usually this is them, that's them at the end of the year. I don't know what that means for them at the end of this year because they're rarely this quick early in the season. Hendrick is the most consistent and very boring, right? Now, Larson's kicking ass, right?

Having great year, running good, got great statistics. Just mile and a half. It's amazing. He's dominating at the mile and a half's. His mile and a half average finish is like 4.5 or some shit. The next best driver is 10th. The next best driver's best average finish at a mile and a half is five spots worse. Was that C-Bell?

It was Byron. I don't know what it was after this race. It was Byron before. But he had a bad day, so maybe somebody else has jumped into the second spot in average finish at mile and a half this year. But it's still five positions. So, excluding Larson, HMS has been very monotonous, just prodding. Chase's fourth and points and not a win. Yeah, right.

Bowman's eighth. Yes. And now, so I would say that they're kind of the number two team and Gibbs to me has, I know that C Bell's been awesome, but they're up and down, up and down. And here lately they've kind of been more down than up. And so they're all very close, right? I'm not saying there's a massive advantage for one of the other. They're the three teams that I look at.

Now, you'll have a track house that will pop off and get a top five or some shit or maybe even win a race. 2311, same thing. But they're the B teams. They're second tier teams to me. I'm surprised you put Penske in front of Hendricks still because we went to a couple tracks. This is before the race, T.J.

Well, I'm saying even in general because we would like even... I would change my mind after watching that Kansas race. I thought that Penske would have a little bit more speed, like especially like Martinsville, like Blaney would lead 490 of laps at Martinsville. And honestly, Homestead, I feel like they've been better there. And they didn't get the finish. He blew up. Blaine blew up.

Phoenix. They dominate Phoenix. Usually. Yeah. At the end of the year, not at the start of the year. I mean, I just expect. I think they've been good this year better than they normally have in the first half of the year. After this race, though, I got to say it's about even now.

I mean, has Hendrick. You know, I know it's one damn race. And this sport sort of ebbs and flows week to week. Every damn week we got to do it. Which is awesome. Yeah, we got a new championship favorite every two weeks. But, you know, that's a fun conversation for me is to like rank the teams, grade the teams, judge the organizations because this next gen car and how it's such a kit car has made that conversation relevant. and so, you know, after, I guess after the end of that race,

I was really, I guess even during the middle of that race, when Chase Elliott drove to the front of the field, I'm like, this is impressive. I haven't seen this speed out of this car. I haven't seen this kind of speed out of many of the HMS cars outside of Larson, but Bowman drove up to the front of the field early in the race. Byvern was probably going to be a contender, had the tire not, you know, blown.

They were strong. They were strong, man. They were strong. And I think that looks good for them going into Charlotte. I really do. I think we'll see somewhat similar speeds and performance from these organizations at the same race, at the next race, right? Yeah, I agree. Charlotte will be similar to Kansas.

What do you make of the angry drivers seem like a lot of people were on edge? Well, so, like, listen to this and the point that I had with this, you can, and some of it's, you can understand it, but like guys that are just struggling, you can tell they're struggling by their radios. Like Kyle, I mean, he is struggled. You can tell by his reactions. Listen, I watched the in-car with Kyle, and I saw it also with a lot of people.

They, um, we have a, we have these statistics that we get from racing insights. And they grade the drivers from, you know, the best, the second best, the third best, the worst.

They're all graded in passing, pit road. Defense, speed. Defense and speed. Defense is now a statistic. You know, we used to just say, man, Newman's hard to pass. Or Joe Lugano blocked a shit out of you at Daytona, Talladega. Just reckless blocking, right?

We used to just say this guy fits in this category. But now we go, you know, well, he's the sixth best defender, or he did the best this week at defending. And that's a real stat now. They have the digital camera in the car, and they know at a mile and a half or anywhere else, really, if they see a guy in the mirror and he's not in their lane, if they just drive in, if they just pull in front of him,

he's screwed. He is f*** because the error stops going under that car to the diffuser, and it just takes all the error and downforce away from that driver. And so defense is now, maybe the most important strategy. Yeah, you've got to retain your position. Yeah. And so, you know, that's interesting.

It's entertaining. Is it what I prefer? No, not really. I'd love it if the guys that are faster could just drive right up to the back bumper and knock the guy in the ass and move on. But, you know, the way this car is, we're not going to get that next week at Charlotte,

you know, or the next, when we go back to points racing at Charlotte, we're not, you know, we've got to talk about what we're going to. you were driving, if you put your car in front of another guy on an entry to the corner, you were getting loose. I had to be careful to drive. If I was going to drive across his nose, he could definitely. I'm putting myself in a bad position because he could definitely get right, you know, lift me up, lift me up.

And the air going around his nose is so condensed. It almost acts like a rubber bumper where he doesn't even have to touch me and he can kind of move my car loose. You could play offense though, like use it. Yeah, I didn't want to drive down across. somebody's knows because it's going to take my car out of the racetrack. But the way that the, the way they got to drive these cars now is, is worth talking about. But watching that end car is so frustrating.

Like you can sense why the drivers get frustrated. They're driving through the corner, well, throttle up. And then they come up off a turn four and cross the wake of the car in front of them and have to jump out of the fucking gas because the right front's about to knock the wall now. Because as soon as he crosses that wake, it shuts the air off to the diffuser. And everything else, the whole car loses air. And so that, to me, is too extreme. They still race like hell.

If you're looking at it just from the grand stand point of view, they're racing like hell. They are. Looks awesome. But if you plug your ass in the seat and ride with one of those guys, it's frustrating to watch when they have. to jump out of the gas because they crossed the wake of some car or this guy or a guy saw him running that lower line and they drove down across them in front of them right you'll see

them they'll go down in the corner oh terrible guy goes into the middle of the corner right leading the race and he drives into the middle because he's going to say all right man i know the guy behind me is going to either go low or high and if wherever that guy goes especially if you're ross chastain you drive up in front of him or drive down in front of him right ross is the best at it, one of the best defenders, as we say. He goes, he sees that, he drives in the corner in the middle of the corner, looks in the mirror, he says, oh, you want to go low, I'll go low. He drives down in front of them and they just, they can't, they can't finish this

throttle. And so it's, it's a, it's an art. It's fun to watch somebody, you know, defend and block and take air away. It's not how I prefer my stock car racing to be, but it's what we're going to have. when we go to Charlotte and go forward until something really major changes in the car. And so. Well, remember a handful of years ago at Kansas? This is one of the biggest defending moments that I can remember is whenever Kevin

Harvick had a car that was the fastest car all day, four-tenths faster, and we held them off for 40 laps by doing. Joe Legano. You run the big arc into the corner, wait for him to go to the bottom because you took away the top because you're running a ridiculous arc and you just turned down in front of it, and those slides up. I went to, in, I think it was 19. 99. We went to Japan flat racetrack, Motagie. Big, it's a giant New Hampshire. Yeah. Really flat.

NASCAR was playing with the spoilers and the valence and they had a six and six and six inch front ride height, six inch rear spoiler. And so it had terrible front downforce by itself and a lot of blade on the back. When you got behind the car, you lost all the front and you didn't lose as much back. And so this feels, and it was awful. Like when we drove down in the corner or behind somebody, even if your car was turning better, working better, you just slid the fronts across the racetrack

and the guy just drove away. And you couldn't get within two car links of nobody. And so it kind of reminds me of that. It's too extreme. So I can kind of understand the frustration from the drivers as they're trying to figure out how to get to the finish of this race and get a good result. There are some cars, though, that do really well in traffic. I mean, at the end of that race, the 21, Barry was driving right by fools.

It was wild how much speed he had. Blaney had that kind of speed, too, at the end. And he had it set up for a longer run, too. And the cool part about these mile and a half a now with this car is the multiple grooves. If you go, like, if I catch you and you run the top and my car is good, I can still run below you. Yeah. and side draft you come on off the next of the corner. I saw that conversation that Kyle Bush and, you know,

we're going to lean into a lot of what Kyle was saying because he was on action is detrimental. We got a lot of great feedback from that race and from Kyle. And him and Denny both had a conversation around the composite bodies, ruining the art of racing and passing. Kyle said, it's the composite bodies. That's what it is, right? Like everybody just runs into everybody, runs over everybody, hits everybody, hits the wall because we all just bank on the fact that the body's just going to pop back out.

and we're going to be fine. He's referring to when we drove the steel race cars, if you brush the wall with the steel race car, so they would work on the side of that steel body, flange and create side force right in front of the right rear tire and back at the tailpiece. And if you flat, if you hit touch the wall, you took all that out and you lost counts and side force,

you lost down force, you lost turn and ability. And so you couldn't, you didn't want to touch the fence. you didn't want to bounce into any other cars or run it. I thought it sucked, honestly. I remember in the 80s and 90s just guys knocking the shit at each other

and it was awesome to watch. And it looked like it was something I wanted to do for the rest of my life. Then at some point in the late 2000 and teens you know, 2000, I don't know, 2012 and on, the bodies became so important and they were so

tweaked and perfected, even the I mean, every, you just got every little thing you could. Yeah, every part of the car. If you touched anything with it, it hurt it. It killed the speed and performance, killed the body's ability. And I didn't love that. I thought that sucked because I wanted to race hard. And, or I wanted to be able to race somebody hard and, we couldn't touch each other.

You may, ain't no, you know, beating and banging. No beating and banging. And, yeah, if you did get, you, you know, you run the wall at a place like Homestead. and if you did run into the fence, you know, you had to run, your car drove like to shit, until you get to pit road

and they pull that shit out and try to fix it and make it better. But I, so I don't like, I'm kind of, I'm, this is sound maybe weird. I like the composite bodies

because the drivers have been able to get more aggressive with them. In some cases, too aggressive, particularly in the Xfinity series, we destroy cars for no reason because,

because they just, you know, They look at the bodies and stuff like just throwaways, and they're not really. They're kind of expensive. But I do miss being able to look at a car and see the damage. So a next-gen car, Bubba Wallace comes off turn two. Somebody almost busted their ass in front of him,

and he popped the hell out of them, run right in the back of them off turn two. Look at the car, they keep going down the straightaway. Look at the car, it's fine. I know inside around the duck work and all that, it's bust all that loose. It's hurt his car. He's lost drag.

He's lost, he's added drag. He's lost all his shit's not sealed up, so he's lost horsepower. Something's moved. Yeah, air going back into the engine intake and all that. So I know that it hurt his car, but I can't look at it and see it. And that I don't like. Remember when the next gym first came out and they were so stiff? They would kill the fence, and it looked like it was fine.

Oh, yeah. You know? Kill the fence. Yeah. And it looked, it just had scratches all over it. but otherwise it didn't change shape. It don't bend and fold up. It does a little bit more now that they've made some adjustments to it to absorb the crashing.

But it just doesn't crinkle. I got, yeah, don't crinkle. I was so used to seeing a car crash and looking at the, looking at the car and going, I know just about everything that's probably bent. And now I don't feel that way as much. It's harder to see. And so, and as, and that Bubba Wallace deal is a perfect. example. He's probably got a chance to run, let's say, 15th, right, at best at Kansas,

runs in the back of that car off turn two, hurts his intake and overall hurts the power that the car can create, probably creates some drag because he's unsealed the body in certain points. And I can't look at it, tell you, I can't look at it and tell you as a viewer, hey, this is a problem now, and this is why he's going to run 28th today. You know? And so that's the only thing that I don't love about the composite bodies. Otherwise,

I like that they race like assholes. I know that we give Carson Osvar a lot of shit, and at times we gave chastain some other guys, but I want more of those guys in the field. I want more of those guys out

in the field. You wouldn't say that if they cleaned you out. What if you were driving, though, when you're not a fan slash broadcast. That's right. So if I was driving, when I was driving a race car, when I was a race car driver, I was selfish.

It was about me. It was about what was good for me. And that's not always what's good for the sport. That's not always what's good for entertainment. That's not always what's good for the fan that bought a ticket. And so that was one of the things

that I learned when I got out of the driver's seat and stepped into the booth. I said, holy shit, it is important that this is fun to watch. like this has got to be good to watch. And so having a wild card or two or three or four or five out there that you're not quite sure what kind of decision they're going to make down in the next corner is kind of good.

You know, having that guy that's like, hey, man, he's a loose cannon. It's kind of good when you're, you know, trying to be, you know, entertained. And you're, you know, I think if... It's the unknown. You don't know what's going to happen. and you want to watch because of that. You just, you got to have a lot. We talk about personalities,

and I know that personality conversations kind of a lot, driven a lot more toward, like, what they're doing off the track, but you also need those personalities on the track. You got to have the good guy, the villain, the fuck up, you got to have the guy that just can't get it right.

You got to have the guy that's stupid fast, but terrible decision maker. You need to have all these different people with all these different variables and throw them all in the bucket. Yeah, and let them race. Yeah. Yeah, I agree.

Put them in the cage and see what happens. And so, you know, I kind of think that's my perspective as a viewer. When I was on the racetrack, I wanted everybody to not run over my ass and stay off me and not f*** up around me, you know. For sure. That's kind of boring. I agree. That's why like, Hosevar after his press conference, he kind of downplaying flipping the bird. I'm like, if you flip the bird, own it.

Well, he kind of can't. So that's a pimple. or that's a potential for a penalty. So I think that drivers have kind of been programmed to never own up to doing anything wrong or nefarious over the past several years. I don't mind that he didn't own it.

And that doesn't bother me as much as it bothered you because I know that he, by owning it, is opening it, is open himself up to some sort of retaliation from NASCAR. And NASCAR is reactive. So if he owns it and there's a big backlash on social media, NASCAR then reacts to that. Yes.

But can't they say the heat of the moment? Like, it's not. You would love for that to be a case. They've done it before, though, haven't they? Do you want to be a host of R and take that chance? But I feel like they have done many times where it's like, oh, he in the moment he said it, like. I wish they would have done that in Talladega 2004. Heat the moment.

Explain that. When I said the word, it was fucking harmless. You know? No, that's ridiculous. It is. But that's the you deal with. So are you going to take that chance by going, by, you know, what are you, being a tough guy? I spun out on purpose at Bristol, bragged about it.

They busted my ass. If I'd have never said nothing, they would have never done nothing about it. Same thing for flipping the bird. We can all see him flipping the bird. We can see it. Spending out on purpose and flipping the bird are not the same. I mean, I saw it from the roof. My point.

Now, no, they're not the same. I'm not saying they're the same. I'm just saying if you want to admit to some shit, NASCAR then can act on it. Yeah. They've always told us, indirectly told us, don't fucking admit to doing it. We're trying to cut you a break here. Okay.

And so that doesn't really bother me that much that he didn't own it. I'll change my opinion on that one. Now, however. He could have turned it into a fun joke. I would have. I don't know exactly what he said. He started to admit and then he was like, I don't know. Like he kind of faded away, didn't he?

I mean, my problem with, who is he to be flipping the bird or anybody as much? You know, you know, he's ran into. Okay, I got an opinion about that. Did you,

so Lane Riggs goes down into term one. He's underneath Hosevar, right? Definitely uses him up. Fri-N-A. Wrecked them both. Wow.

Dude, the fucking wall saved Hosevar. Well, I'd say both of them. Right. I mean, really, but yeah. Nobody's talking,

nobody thinks that that's totally cool. That's cool. I mean, what, what, I don't think that's cool, but I mean.

How much talent does that take to go down in the corner, drive up the race, track into the guys left for a corner panel. Damn near wrecked both of you. Yeah. I'd have flipped his ass off too. But, I mean, the guy, if you switch the trucks and put the, you know, Carson on the inside,

that's definitely a Carson move. That's going to be the same thing. You think Carson would, yes, I'm not arguing that. Yeah. So that's like, so you're not allowed to flip someone off because you've done it before? I mean, he's the, they're. Who's arguing what now? Are you now on Carson's side?

Yeah, yeah. I'm on Carson's side for the bird. No, no, no, no, no. For the sake of argument. I, well, first I admitted that I was wrong on him is press conference because what you said. Yeah. But I'm saying, is he not allowed to give the bird because he... I would have flipped him off too after that shit over and turn two.

That's a mess with TJ. I mean, I don't blame him for flipping him off, but Carson's has wrecked many cars over the last two, three years. And I don't see anybody acting at that level, like flipping him off. He's had a lot. They've been a lot of shit said about him. Said about him, but you don't see. see it like that like wait so because no one's ever flipped him off he can't flip off somebody i didn't say he can't flip him off i just said carson took a lot of i i rightly so deservingly

carcarsen's been doing this long enough now to me and oh but the thing that bothers me if we want to get on carson's ass the thing that bothers me is he called rigs a kid riggs is older than him who is he is he something is he is he already like is he is he is he self appointing himself some sort of veteran. Y'all heard that that's a power move. The only thing

that could have been worse if he called him like buddy or like sport. Man, that kid's going to win a lot of races. Yeah. What the fuck, dude?

You're a kid. Is that him saying I'm in cup and you're not? That was a very egotistical move. I love it. I don't.

I think it makes, I think it's an asinine way to look at. Oh, it's awful. It's an asinine way to look at things. Riggs is older than him and I know that Riggs is not

in cup, but in terms of like, I don't know, ability, talent. I don't really set them too far apart. No, you could take the numbers out of the truck and we probably wouldn't be able to tell who's who. Yeah, but I think you could put rigs in the 77 and eventually get, you know, reasonable results. 100%, but I like, I like the little dig.

I just don't think Carson's earned that opportunity to, I don't know that he even meant it as a dig. Oh, well, then. No, I think he really believes in his head that that guy's a kid and he's this veteran of the Cup series. That is what's wild to me. Yeah, that's stupid. Yeah. It's preposterous. That's, I don't think he was trying to make a dig.

I think he was just going like, oh, that kid, he's going to be fine. You guys. You think he's 18 years old in the truck series? Yeah. Oh, oh, Regs, he'll be fine. He's going to win his share raises that kid. I'm like, dude, you're still a kid. You ain't too far from that crazy-ass you were pulling in Phoenix in that championship final.

Remember that? Yeah, I mean. All that wild shit was going on. What a crazy kid he was back then. Yeah, man. Wait, how old do you? think these two are Carson? Yeah. Oh,

Hosevar is probably 22, 23? Oh, he's didn't hear that. I'm being told they're both 22. All right. Kids. These kids these days these day. We can call them kids. So does that change it now? No. No. He's right. They're almost identical. They're nearly in the same place in their lives. I know that Carson's in

Cup and Lerig's in truck, but they're both you know, they're both still at the very early stages of their careers. If you change the pass, I fully believe Lane could look just like Carson and that cup car. Well, yeah, I don't disagree with that. My problem with Carson is I don't, like, he's not, he needs to be finishing these races off now. Like last week at Texas running and, you know what I mean? He had a good run going Sunday. And he had a good run going at Texas though, too.

And he threw it away. Like, he just drives somebody up the hill and run him into the fence. You know what I mean? Like, I need to see him. growing from these moments because he's made a lot of mistakes. Yeah. And we keep seeing the same mistakes. That's my question.

Well, I hear you, but I don't have a whole lot of confidence that that's going to happen anytime soon. I think that it will. But I'm telling you, man, we expect way too much out of these guys. We put them in cup cars. We do. You know, it's 18, 19, 20, 21, 22 years old. And you're, you're, there'll be the anomaly that comes in, kicks ass. It makes no sense, but they're just badass.

Yeah. Right. And it's a maturity thing up here in their head. It has a lot to do with just how mature they are in terms of judgment and decision making. But most people are 22-year-old, 22-year-olds, right? And they're going to f*** up. They're going to act like that. And they're going to act like that.

And it's going to be too big for them. It's going to be too big for them. And they're going to f*** up a lot. If you can be patient, if you can be patient with a guy like Hosevar, the 20, 26-year-old Hosevar will be the driver that you want him to be. But you've got to be patient with that. Wait for him to get there. Look at Joe Lugano.

Perfect example. If the right people didn't have the idea to give him a second chance, he's not a three-time champion. I mean, his deal, I think we all forget just how rough the Gibbs deal went. And how even at the end of that Gibbs deal, when he got, when he got, to Penske. I think even me, all of us were like,

yep, well, that slice bread shit didn't work out, did it? Yeah. Well, you know, it did work out. He's a badass. He, you know, three-time champion. Yeah, yeah. But, I mean, there was a point where I think all of us were kind of like,

hmm, this, this ain't going so well. And will it. But, you know, the sport was getting younger and younger, going younger and younger, get these guys in these cars as soon as you can get them in there. And they ain't ready for it. A lot of them aren't. Some, there's the anomalies, but, you know, Hosevar is worth waiting for.

And most of them are. Most all of them are. He's got speed, which is the main thing. Yeah. But can you wait? Yeah. How long do you think it takes a driver to kind of find his all different? It's different for every person.

What was it like for you? Well, I got, I came in and I came in and won in my, I don't know, 16th start. at Texas, then we won Richmond, then we won the All-Star race. And I'm like, this is just as easy as the Xenity Series. And then we got our teeth kicked in the last half of my rookie year. And it was like, okay, I don't know why we were so good out of the gate, but this is really hard all of a sudden. I think 2004 was when it all started to come together.

You know, in a perfect world, you know, that 2000. 2004 season happens and we continue to build on that. You know, I made some bad decisions. We made some bad decisions personnel-wise that derailed that thing from happening and what it might have been. But so I would say four years for me. Byron, four years, roughly. He's a good example. Legano?

Another four years. Yeah, at least. Yeah. I mean, it's for some guys, I mean, there's real true. multi-time champions out there that are going to need that four years. And if you can be patient and wait, you know, you get paid out. You know, it pays off. Four years is a good number.

Ah, you're throwing a 20. At 22, I did not belong in a cup car. I did not. Yeah. I'm glad I wasn't. I would have never panned out, you know. And some guys just are too, too young for it. Fun conversation?

Mm-hmm. Yeah. We moved all over to place. Good job, kid. Good job, dirty air. Good job, kids. Cars tour. Short tracks bring on the short tempers,

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So they were talking about Kyle and Denny. Okay. We're talking about those kids. If you don't throw your first stage caution until you have 75 consecutive green laps or whatever the number. I like it. Whatever depending on the track. It sounds like the cars tour.

So the cars tour. Sounds like half the field is going to be a lap down. The cars tour has a deal. Is this the most explain? what the car store does and then I'll is this similar. I'll ask you. So we have 125 lap late model stock race

100 lap pro late model race. If they go 45 laps of green the caution comes out. If there's a natural yellow that clock resets. Is that kind of what they're talking about? I think so but it also may have sounded like he was for like a

you're not going to have a stage caution. Get rid of stage caution. entirely. Yes. You still have a... You pay all your stage points. Let me... Let's explain it to the fan.

Let's not all argue. Okay. Talk over the fucking top of each other. People are listening to this shit. So no stage break caution. That goes away. You still pay points out at certain moments in the race as we do today. I'm fine with that.

Okay? I like people accumulating points during the race. It does create a... conversation that I think we need to have around somebody who finished 14th getting fifth place points or the fifth best points or the guy even winning the race not having the most points as the guy in second or third because of what happened throughout the race. I don't know if I love all that but hey that's another conversation but anyways no stage cautions still pay out points at certain points in the race as we do today but there's a lap clock a lap counter you're

run a certain amount of laps green and if no caution has come out you throw the yellow if there's a natural yellow at some point in that mix it resets the clock i like that and that way um i think it changes fuel strategy all types of things to be able to get the teams to have to you know you have to race a little bit not that they're not racing now i'm just saying i think it would change kind of how we viewed the races too as a fan yeah you're not see you're not you're not you're not you're not saving fuel. Yeah, you're not saying fuel because you know exactly what's going on and what's going to happen. It throws a little bit of a very, you know, throws a little bit of uncertainty into it.

I think at some point you get, you might get to a fuel savings deal a little bit. They're still going to game it. Yeah, because you're going to. I like it. You're going to short fill sometimes for a faster stop, which is going to put you in a different fuel window at times. But like, so what's a mile and a half number? 75. Like, what did they say?

I think you were saying like 70, 75 for Kansas maybe I could be wrong They were spitball numbers First stage was 80 laps Yeah You're gonna throw a yellow five laps to go on a stage Even though you're not having a stage caution If you go green

I know So the caution's gonna come out of lap 75 You're gonna ride around under caution for a couple laps Then somebody's gonna get a bunch of points And then You know You're gonna go back to green And no no no

when that's 75 then that would be where you're that's where you pay your stage at probably then oh so you're saying okay you're paying points to 75 like if you go this is still a stage break are you throwing the yellow or not that dang it you're confusing yourself Travis you're throwing a yellow if you go

75 consecutive then there's going to be a yellow there's your stage that's what we're doing already we're just doing at a elaps yeah but if you you not change the thing but if you have a caution on lap 15 you're gonna now have to go 75 consecutive green before the next one.

So you're going to the end of the stage no matter what. Unless there's a natural yellow. If there's a natural yellow, it resets it, so then you're going to drive through the stage. Yeah. Oh, so you don't stop, you're not stopping at the... Yeah, you're not stopping for the stage. Unless there's no caution.

Yeah. I mean, I see what they're saying. Yeah, it's weird. That is weird. I kind of like the idea of just, you know, I wouldn't put it so close to the stage. Yeah, that number could be changed. changed.

Yeah, I wouldn't put this anywhere near where you're going to give the points away. Right. And so if there's a, if you're going to give points away after, honestly, man, if you're, you could move those points to anywhere you want it. So like if it's a, what was that race, 200 or something? 67, 67, 67ish. You could move the points to 100, 200, then 267. And then you could say, okay, you're going to get your points at a hundred.

lap 100 everybody's getting paid some points here have some fun drop the green run 75 laps if no caution comes out but pooh caution i don't mind that because you have a natural yellow it resets how it's set up now is you have a shorter stage shorter stage than the longest at the end i don't mind having a long one in the beginning like a hunter lapper well we don't know we don't know yeah i know same it's not a long stage because it's no caution there's no caution for it yeah which i'm fine i mean i'd I'd rather keep running. That would be the other thing. This is so confusing to everybody probably listen.

It is. That would be the other thing is, to T.J.'s point, the long, the finish, that rule of throwing a caution every 75 laps has to go away at some point so that you do not throw the yellow inside of, you know, 50 or 25 laps to go. You could say, all right, if we're, you know, if a, you know. Your last stage caution yellow that you're going to throw is that lap. Competition yellow. Just not even call it a stage caution anymore at that point.

Competition. Competition. Because it's not, you're not in the stage with it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't mind it at all. I think it's fine. The industry, or I'd say this, the networks want yellows so that they can go to break.

Yeah, the plan stuff makes it easier for them, I'm sure. And the plan stuff makes it easier. And that's a part of it. I definitely think there might be something to do. A good place to start with this might be somewhere like a plate race, like a Super Streetway where you just don't stop, don't throw the yellow. But you know there'll be some yellows because you got this lap clock. Well, if you're going to run that, I'm just saying right now,

if you were to go to Daytona next and just say, hey, we're just not going to throw the yellow. Does that take away some of the fuel stuff? Do you race hard the whole time more? We had caution-free Talladega races that were fantastic races. Yeah, let them run. Yeah. I don't think you have to have yellows at. Talladega and Daytona for it to be fun.

But they still got to change the car. Because a guy sitting there running. Wait, it's not going to. You can't pull out a line because somebody's got so much drag on it. They just send you to the back. Hey, TJ, that's a cool new phone you got there. Where'd you get it? Man, I am actually loving my new phone.

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Yes, because we had to ask you your question. But now we, this is the port. You're allowed. So gates are open. We wanted to do it live. I had fun. It's good time. Oh, next question.

Great. Nice question. It was, I mean, the rehearsal's fun. It's easy. We go over to the NASCAR building. There's a NASCAR building. NASCAR Studios now has this nice, nice real big building over by the Concord Airport, went over there, got into a room with all the monitors.

it's where they do the off you know it's where they'll do the CW CW and stuff like that yeah so when they're not at the track and it's not too bad of course you know you love

you love looking out the window of the booth at the racetrack and seeing crashes happening in real time but we we had fun and felt natural and I think we're going to do good work so how did it work with

did you just like talk the whole time or were they like mimicking commercial breaks or throwing it to people? No, we didn't throw it to anybody. We had no pit reporters. Right, yeah. But we did go to break through things like that. It was really stripped down.

Next points race, it's on you guys. It's going to be fun. Yeah. I've never done to 600. That's a great. Oh, yeah. So that's a great way to like get your feedback into the pool is just dive into the longest race of year.

Seriously. Right. I'm excited. Ironically, this next question is from TJ on Twitter, but it's not T.J. Majors. I was, because I'm not. But you can submit questions if you're interested. They want to know what was it like singing with Kenny Chesney

in front of the crowd at the three tribute concert at Daytona. That was so long ago. That was so long ago. I remember the weather being kind of iffy, but every band that showed up was not deterred due to the, you know, because of the weather and some of these bands that were in this lineup were um we're not you know not not necessarily NASCAR fans maybe didn't really know much about dad but you know they were asked to be there and um and it it felt like it wasn't a real concert if that makes any sense

it kind of felt like we were just kind of throwing our own little party but when it started the weather started getting weird none of those acts were like yep we're going to go on we're not going to go on until rain you know rain stops because i mean it is there are electrical cords and all kinds of stuff out on the on the on the deck getting wet and potential for shock and all those things but everybody went forward um let me think do you remember the song yeah back where i come from so to kenny's a good friend see seeing from time to time when we get down to key west he might have his boat there right you know know, just if you see his boat out in the marina, hey, where you at,

running, you know, medium at a bar, go drink beer, have fun. Great guy. Easy guy to be around. Didn't really know him back then. I was very hesitant to go up on the side of the stage because I don't want to get drug out there in front of everybody. I don't want to sing that song or any song in front of a crowd of people. I was scared to even go do a karaoke at a bar after six beers.

Right. But he'll chug a beer on the Jumbotron, though. No problem. That's different. That's not the same. You kind of don't have a choice. Again, you don't have a choice. You're not looking to get on the Jumbotron.

Kind of the same thing. But he didn't give me a choice. It drugged me out there and then we end up singing that song and that's the way it goes. But I was, I was nervous. Now I can look back 20 years and go, man, that looked fun. Boy, did you have fun? No, I was nervous. yeah and then the other one that maybe that there isn't any there might not be that

much footage of we he came to concert in Charlotte and he would we we were kind of guests backstage we're on the side of the stage concert's going and I'm standing there and I'm like don't don't ask me to come out there he in between songs go come on man come on weighs me on out there and I go out there in front of all these people and we're standing side beside for a second, right? He's talking, hey, Dale Jr. How are y'all doing? And then, like, a second later, I don't know where he's at.

I'm standing there by myself. You don't know where to go or? He gets behind me, jumps on my back. What? Runs and jumps on my back. And almost went off the stage. Like, he jumped on my back. I went forward and almost went into the pit at the front.

I mean, literally, it was all I could do, every muscle in my legs, my back and my, to not fall over. And I was like, okay, I guess this is what we're doing. That one. It was so weird. But, yeah, the other band that played, I don't know why I can't think of their name, this is bothering me. They had that song, Iris. Googoodlew Dolls. Yeah.

Googoodalls were there. And that was the band for me. Like I was into alternative music. And Google Dolls had some big hits back then. This is 01, you know, right at the back in 01. And or O2 sometime around them. But they were the band that I was like, you guys have no idea why you're here, right? You had no clue who Dylan, you never watched the lap.

But I'm so glad you're here, right? And they were the one that were like when it was really, when the rain was real bad, they were the one that went out there at the start of the weather and still, you know, performed. And I was like, man, that's cool. Because they could have been like, you know, if this, I'm going to go to the hotel. They wouldn't do that.

You know where they're from? Buffalo. Really? Yeah. Oh. Yeah. So that was cool. Tells you everything you need to know about them.

Yep. They wouldn't leave on that. Heck no. That felt cool. There were predictable bands, right? Like it was a Dale Earnhardt tribute deal. And there was some bands you'd go, yep, that's who I would expect to be there. Goo Goo Goo Dolls would not be on.

No. No, for sure. Great band, though. Yeah. Yes. Well, speaking of kind of, you know, No Shoes Nation, you know, the beach themes, this is from Bill. What's your favorite beach game?

Aside from drinking, like cornhole, spike ball, botchy. What the hell is spike ball? Oh, no, you're not a spike ball guy. Spike ball is like, I don't know how you describe it. Hey, this is in this question. Bachi? I really don't even care. I don't know what those are.

You got to learn. I ain't got to play games. No? No. The only game he plays on the beach is move the shade thing when the sun moves. So you stay in the shade. Yeah, my game's moving my ass under the umbrellas. The sun goes across the sky.

What do you call that thing? The shade thingy? Umbrella. Shibumi or Shabam or, I don't know. It's an easy one person put up shade. Dale is not breaking a sweat. Try not to. You never thrown a ball or frisbee or anything?

I do like to throw softball, baseball, any kind of pitch. I do. Or football. Football is pretty fun. Cite, if the kids are there sometimes. I do, take kites out with the kids. What about a frisbee? Nope.

Yeah. Not a frisbee guy. No, they're more annoying than anything. Yeah. I mean, I've thrown frisbee, but sometimes it's just like, yeah, I don't really know how to. You end up just chasing it. Yeah. If you have a football, you should never throw it.

Frisbee. Were you a boogie boarder back in the day? Yeah. Yep. That was good stuff. Yeah. You're going to do it now? No, I'm not a boogie boarder these days.

I don't really get in the water unless I got to go. Oh. Yeah. I sit up on that beach and drink all my beer and I'll go down in there and get in the water. You're going to cool off or? Yep. No, not really. I'm cool.

I'm cool out of water. You do have that shade. All right. Beach. Dude, don't get me started. It's almost summer. My girls, Alice's last day of school was. Thursday.

Oh. And my favorite thing to do from, you know, the start of June to the end of August is load all the shit I got on my little pull cart and take it out on the beach and set it up, you know. Unfortunately, the rest of the family doesn't feel that way. They want to go out there and in 30 minutes they're ready to go back to the house. And I'm like, no, this is like a four-hour thing, man. I got the cooler. I got the, I packed snacks.

We got the food. We got the drink. Yeah. Speaker, it's, we are, you don't need a wagon for 30 minutes.

We got the toys and all the stuff. I'm like, let's go. Beach is a solid two to four hours. Yes. Thing. Oh, at least.

And we are like 200 feet, yards, whatever. We're very close to the water. Oh, oh, to the beach. Right,

yeah, from the house. It's like, it couldn't be easier. It couldn't be easier. No. Couldn't be easier. Yeah,

couldn't be easier. But my family is not like an all-day beach family. I'm, I can't tell you how disappointed about that. I got to be honest You don't look like

You don't look like an all-day beast type guy I have I'm just saying I have Budweiser Beach chairs and umbrellas That I have saved Since 2000

That doesn't make you look like a beachgoer I'm just saying Like I am I'm 25 years of preparation For my four hour beach days I mean I've got shit I'm pulling out of my warehouse. So Budweiser sent him a bunch of free stuff. Doesn't mean you're a beach guy.

That I've saved forever. It sounds like you didn't use it enough. I didn't live on a beach. Because you're not a beach goer. What the hell are we? What are we arguing about? I don't know. Yeah, but Dale literally is saying he's a beach going. He is now. He is now, but I'm saying you don't look. These guys will sit here and just argue with the person that's saying anything to be arguing with them. Even if it means five minutes later, they flip their argument to the other side. Flip it here in a minute. Okay. Isn't that a good thing that we're willing to admit that we were wrong?

When did you do that? When we were talking about Carson Hosevar. You're speaking for yourself because I'm not admitting that. I am not admitting that. You just admitted that you were going to flip T.J. Carson Hose. Yeah, but I'm not wrong. We need a talking to everybody in the chat.

We need community notes. We need Dirty Mo Media to put out a post. My man is going to do it right here. Beach. That's it. That's the tweet. Beach Day, right? Beach Day, is this 30 minutes or is this four hours?

You get to pick. No in between. You're going to the beach. Are you out there for four hours or is this a 30 minute trip? Let's see what the answer is. It's going to be a landslide four hours. Yeah, absolutely. I don't want to feel like I'm...

Because to your point, why would you pack? Going to the beach is such an effort. Amy, Amy's like, we don't need to pack all this. We're not going to be out there that. I'm like, we're not. Damn it. I know. What day are we going to go out there and be out there?

He's right. He's got this wagon and he's got so much in this wagon. They can go to and from the house, right? So that's pretty easy. Yeah, but he's not. He's staying. Dude, I'm sitting down and I ain't moving. I know, I agree.

I mean, if we go to the beat, we're sitting under that shade for hours. I like to sit there and judge everybody else's lay out. Run that battery dead in your speaker. What they got. All right. stuff. So beach game following the sun. I'm pumped though. Y'all got me excited for summer. Oh, it's here. This year's summer's going to be awesome. Yeah. Hell yeah. I was talking to Ila on the way to school today about how a badass the last day of school was. Her last day of school was Thursday.

And she's just now into the school thing. She's the first grader. And I'm like, man, she's so sad. She's like, I don't want to go to school. I'm like, you got two days. Then you're done for the summer. And the last day of school is the best. Yeah. Yeah. That's like, this is the second to last day. You probably ain't got to do any hard stuff today. No. The last week. Oh, the last week is nothing. And I was like, Ila.

Yeah. Everybody's happy on the last day of school. She's like, really? I'm like, she's like, when you were in school, I was like, yeah, we were happy. She's like ninth grade. I was like, every grade. All the grades, we were happy. Last day of school.

All the kids. Everybody in school was happy. She was like, really? I'm like, yeah. It's last day of school. Off summer. Have you not seen Greece? Oh, boy.

That's how it should be. That's how it is. Remember everybody coming out, running out of the school, and then there's a fucking carnival at the school. It's like, what is going on? It's a celebration. What school is this? Yeah.

But that was imprinted in my mind. The last day of school is what it's like. That's what it's like. Y'all remember that? I'm too old. Yeah, you haven't seen Greece. Yeah, there's no way. You can call him kids.

It's a great movie. We're not getting to many questions today. That's okay. Sorry, everybody. Quality over quantity. Well, yeah, but the YouTube chat, they are... No, we're just trying in our mouths.

Terra says, I love Greece. Huh? Greece is the word. Sorry, that's far as the song. Oh, yeah. Martha from Miami commented that exact thing. Greece is the word. One world, one goal says that too.

Yeah. No, that is Martha in Miami. Sorry. She's the best. Let's go to a question from Facebook. Kevin wants to know how do most drivers think... What? No, no, no, no.

I'm just reading these... Talk about it. from about Greece. It's awesome. What a fantastic movie. You need to see it. I do have to watch you. Honestly, I think you'll love it.

Yeah. You will love it. Okay. Yep. All right. Tell my list. Maybe. This question's from Kevin.

How do most drivers decompress after a race? Everybody's different. Everybody's different. How did you do it that? I drink. Hell yeah. That's what we figured the answer was going to be. I catch a lot of hail for how much I talk about drinking beer and all that.

But I know. that it's probably annoying to some people, but my I was full of adrenaline after a race, and I just was like, so my weekend was working. I didn't have

a weekend, really. Like everybody, you know, works, you know, works during the week and then Sunday was Friday night. Yeah, you're like, Saturday and Sunday I got off, I'm going to watch your race, I'm going to do whatever I want, my yard, whatever, right, you're going to have fun, go fishing. I didn't really have a weekend.

And so I would, we would do our, you know, work during the week and prepping for the race. Then we'd go work on the race weekend. And so as soon as the race was over, I was like, hell, yeah, I'm ready to, I'm ready to, you know, blow off some steam, race some hell. No one else was really ready to do that because you come home and everybody's like, yep, Sunday night, getting ready for work tomorrow. We're going to take it easy. I'm worn out from my fun this weekend. But you get home and you're like, ready to stand on the gas. And so I'd call around to some friends that were also in the industry,

and they're flying home from the race, and they'd come over to the house. And we'd set up till four in the morning sometimes to see the sun come up, just bullshit drinking listening to music all Sunday night. Before I traveled, the first time I moved down here, he used to call on the way home when I lived in that little gray house with Dean Eel. And he'd call on the way home. And it was Sunday night, drank and hang out.

Like, that was like Friday. Sunday night, you know, was the whole Friday, Saturday, Sunday weekend smashed into like six hours, you know. And then you'd get up Monday and have to, you know, shake off a hangover and get back to the routine. What we like, though, when you're like the traveling, were you already starting, like, immediately after the race, like, are you need a moment to get over a race or what? No. Oh. Like, if I finished bad. If I finished bad, I was mad until the next race.

Like I wanted to, I wanted, if I finished bad, I wanted to start the next race immediately. As soon as I got out of that car, I wanted to start the next race to be able to try to redeem myself and get myself happy again. It was like a, it was like your own personal happiness, your own personal depression. Like if you ran bad, you were in a depressed state. until you got a chance to change that by another result. And so you might go weeks where you're just like in the worst place mentally because of how things are going in your professional life. And when you had a great race, you rode that high until the next race.

And you're like, all right, now we've got to have another great race. And you live race to race to race emotionally. You know, I don't know that every driver does that. Some people look at it. Some people look at their lives or their existence. in a broader sense, you know. It depends if you've got, you know, wife, kids, all that changes everything. Back then, I really didn't have anything else but my professional stuff.

And so I rode every emotion dependent upon how that last lap went in the car, right? And kind of a shoddy way to do it, but I didn't, you know. It's tough mentally. It's way I was built. It's tough mentally when things don't go good. for a while. I mean, it's very tough. Oh, yeah. Like, very tough.

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NASCAR. Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen. Place your bets. All right, it's time for Dirty Modeau. And joining us is the professor. Joined us last week. Russell, thanks for tuning in. Also, Tampa Tims is here. This segment of Dirty

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We have Tep of Tims and we got to talk about some of the bets you made. You cashed a bet Barry over Keselowski. Boy, you bet you were nervous about that for a while. Oh, yeah. Until that left rear tire exploded going into turn one. Appreciate it, T.J. Did you celebrate on that? I did.

A little bit. Just a minor fist pump. You took a loss on the Denny Handling for top five. Yeah. That sucks. And then Justin Haley, top 10 plus 1100. Yeah, he was around there kind of all day. He was close.

Yep. And Russ, you warned us about betting on 2311. Man, were you right? I was wrong. I thought they would run better. What a struggle. Yeah, they were right outside the top 10 all day. Well, what bet did I have?

I had a top 10 parlay. And it cashed. It was Barry Bowman and Busher. Oh, heck yeah. Who's the man Everybody throw your money in there I'm not going to lie It's the first thing I thought about

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Who here tailed my awesome idea I would never No one No one No I know it I want to see if anybody did Why would the guy who's done this all his life

know anything about this. Last week you had Stenhouse, Eric Jones, and somebody else in it. We're trying to make money. All right. Hey, all right. Congratulations.

I reluctantly, yeah. I reluctantly saw that. I need to know. There's got to be a person that somebody did it. Please someone tweet at us. Please. I want to see the cash.

All right. This weekend is the All-Star race. The lines aren't out yet. It's hard to handicap. the field because it's a new track relatively. We're not really sure what we're going to get. Ligano went there and destroyed the field last year. Some great racing back in the pack,

but Lugano had the whole field covered for the most part. How do you play this? How do you even have fun with this? What are the fun things to do? Obviously, I'm bored to death by betting a pure favorite. So let's find something fun. With no odds, it's tough to know, but I think I'm just going to hammer it.

Josh Barry and have fun. I mean, he's probably not going to be one of the favorites. He's obviously a great short track guy. He's got speed this year. His numbers will be preferable to making a bet. Yeah. Okay. What do you think, Russ? I struggle with that one. He hasn't been very good on the short tracks lately. He's got one top five on the short tracks in his cup career. And that was with the 48 team back at Richmond. Well, tell us who, tell us what you're leaning toward. Well, the favorites have to be Hendrik Hempski guys. They've won the last five.

Larson and Lugano have won five of the last nine. Lugano would be the number one choice for me. He's won this twice, including last year. Like he said, he dominated. He's been top 10 to last 10 all-star races, which that's the longest streak of all-time. Then Larson, he's won three of his last five all-star starts, but, you know, he's coming from Indy, so I don't know how much, he's not going to get any practice or anything. So, but I think the same thing happened last year, he finished fourth.

And he's won two of the last four short track races this season are in the Cup series. So you can go with Blaney's another guy I like to watch. Like he's won three of the last 10 short track races. He finished fifth and six here in the past. And he's on Penske, so I like the Penske bandwagon. and then Toyota's kind of struggling the all-star race lately last year 2017 but I like Denny of all those guys he's been first and second on the short track races the last two two short track races he was runner up in this race last year um you know he's had speed all year

too so but if you like the Penske guys you can't throw Josh Barry and there's a long shot I mean that's what I'm saying you can but he he just he just has a performed on the show. Who's your long shots? Well, it's not your guy. I would stay away from my guy, Bradford. I wouldn't. You didn't have to even say that. That was so unnecessary. Dang. Tell me something I don't know all of you. Oh, whoa. TJ, hey, you want to keep your job? I mean, if something can happen, it's going to happen to us, obviously. You're supposed to deny that, TJ. I mean, facts are facts. We're going to be good. We are going to be good. But I want to know his long shots. I think Preece is a long shot. I think that's a good one.

All right. TJ, TJ, how many top fives do you have in a short tracks in the next-gen car, do you think? Brad. Zero. I mean, one, two? Yeah, Martin'sville. I was close. Martinsville? Y'all laugh. I was close, man.

But, I mean, we were leading Bristol when the tire blew. It was actually Bristol. Oh, no, we finished decent at Martinsville two, three years ago. Jesus Christ. Where are we going? I don't know. Russell, where is? are you going with this? He asked me a question.

TJ's trying to ask you, TJ has asked you repeatedly for your underdog. Yeah. And we know you're the numbers guy. We know you're the expert. I don't like any underdogs to win. Hey, there he said it. Don't bet the underdog this week. No. Well, TJ, when you said Ryan Priest, I actually am weary about guys that have to qualify their way in because I don't know if they're going to be able to get up to the front like that. Yeah, that's true. Like I like Bubba. He's had good runs here because he's had to qualify his way in in the open. I don't know if that's a great bet. Yeah.

Yeah, I don't. If Priest gets in, I think he's a good at a long shot. But this race is so gimmicky and the one person that shines. How dare you? It's very gimmicky. And the person that shines that the gimmicky race is Joey Legano most of the time. Yeah. It's also a point.

You had to, you had to on the event to get to your point. I can appreciate it. I mean, I didn't say it was a bad event. I said it's a gimmicky. Okay. Gimicky is a trigger word around. It's an all-star race. I mean, he's a kid.

Yeah, that kid. Cars tour. So the other thing to look at is Bell, they have that pick crew competition this week that's part of the qualifying. And Bell's team has won that the last two years. Can you bet them to win it three years in a row? I don't know if you can bet on that. I don't think you can. Why did you bring that up then?

Who's the hot pit crew right now? Who came off Kansas hot? Did y'all hear who had a good part later this again? I'm bringing it back. I'm going to bring us back, all right? So why would we care about Bell's pit crew? So he could qualify well? Well, he'll qualify well, and then if it comes down to a pit stop, then he's going to have...

Who's been the top, like, five pit crews? I mean, Joey Lugano's team was fastest last week of Kansas. But for the season, Russ, do you have that? For the season, Joe Gibbs, yeah, Bubba, Ty Gibbs, Denny,

then Busher and Kyle Larson's team. I think Bubba's team had the fastest stop at Kansas, too, overall. Denny's team's got that new jack maneuver to go out.

Oh, really? You'd know all about it. Just saying. Yeah. You're excited about that, aren't you? Oh, boy.

I was cooking dinner for Denny and told me all this new jack maneuver we're doing. It's fast. All right. Well, what did we learn from this segment? Bet the favorites. Bet the favorites.

Christopher Bell won the Pickrew Challenge. Yep. Bet the favorites. Next week we'll be able to break a full race down now. There's got to be one long shot. Just one. Can you give us one? TJ, I think you gave us one.

Josh Berry. I think you can bet top fives at this one too. Ryan Priest wouldn't be a bad top five if you have. if he advances. I think I'm going to put Larson, I don't know. Ligano

and who else should we add to our top five parlay? Nobody. Blaney. All right. Larson?

Yeah, I will because, you know, he did. No, no. Blaney, you know,

Blaney kicked some ass at the, at the clash, had a pretty fast car. So I'm going to go Blaney, Legano, Larson

for a three, three-car parlay for their top fives. Larson, Priest, and Barry. Swinging from the fence. We're betting on the majority of the top five finishers to, you know, you know. Yeah. It's pretty risky.

But it's the all-star race. It's supposed to be fun. It is the all-star, yeah. I'm going to do that. I ain't got a bet a favorite for a win. I'll tell you this week. How about that? Oh, shit.

Okay. Should have told it last week. You'd all be big winners. I need that. Yep. All right. Well, hey, that's the end of the Dirty Mo Doe segment presented to you by a Fanduil. Fan duel is the premier gaming destination in the United States.

Thank you, Russell, for coming in, gracing us with your presence and expert analysis. Expert. I appreciate his honesty. Yeah, no, he's straight up. Underdog. Yeah, he did. Yeah. He did.

All right, it's time for the white flag. The tear down was live after the race on Twitter and YouTube, reacting to Larson's win, and on Monday, the action's detrimental came out with Denny Hamlin. Kyle Bush was a guest on the show. It's awesome when Denny has a guest, especially somebody as dynamic as Kyle Bush. He had a lot of great things to say. Door bumper clear had an awesome show as well this week. Another RCR driver on hand is a guest there with Austin Dillon.

Herman Schrader in Speed Street come out tomorrow. My interview with Aaron Plessinger also drops on Wednesday. For those who don't know who he is, he's a professional motocross racer. these dudes are wild. I can't wait to sit down with him and learn all about that sport. And Thursday's another episode of Bless Your Heart with my wife Amy. The Dell Jr. Foundation's annual Wind Dale Junior Ride Raffle is underway. This year we are giving away a 2025 Chevy Tahoe that is loaded up with some of Amy and I's favorite things.

We've got some hats that I have. You can't get them anywhere. They're hats that I've had made. We got a beach shade, a slushy machine, JBL speaker, just to name a few. You can see a social media video of all the things. that we put in the back of this Tahoe, and I think you'll want to check that out because it's really pretty cool.

But I also should mention that the Foundation is going to cover all the taxes on the winner for the car and purchase a $25 raffle ticket for your chance to win. Head over to www. the Dale Jr.foundation.org. www. www.

The Dale Jr. Foundation. org for more information and to purchase your ticket. We'll see you tomorrow.