The Dale Jr. Download - Texas: Don’t Change Nothing

Episode Date: May 6, 2025

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I think Texas right now is starting to get into its peak. Don't change nothing right. Cup guys were too. They're up the track, wrecking by themselves. Don't touch it. Don't change anything. I know. Don't move anything, right?

Leave it. Leave it. It's good. The following is a production of Dirty Moe Media. I'm still sour, man, that I wasn't your best man at your wet. When will you start mentally like getting ready for the race? Can you not tell I'm mentally ready? Travis has some dumb ideas, but I agree with them on this one.

Ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha. Doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about. You haven't scratched the surface yet. Oh, boy. I mean, what the fuck do you won't? I just think the last few laps. It was just like stop every time.

You're picky. This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker. All right? This ain't Burger King. Travis is like, fucking wrapped us up. They all have no fun around here. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr.

Download is Tuesday. It's Dirty Air. Majors is my co-host. Oh, thanks for having me. Man, you just keep showing up. I do. Yeah. I do.

Man, when y'all going to get it right? What's going on with a six car? Y'all having some damn bad luck. Listen, if it... I'm tired of shit, TJ. I know. That makes two of us. I don't recall ever having a start of the year.

Oh, yeah. If something's going to happen, it's like... I went from thinking Brad's just about to win any minute to going, damn it. I even took a race off and we still lost the wheel and stuff. I mean, so I know it's not me. But yeah, we're trying. We'll get it right.

Sometimes you don't. The whole organization, I mean, Preyce has been a bright spot. Chris has been pretty, Chris has been decent too. Priest has been good. Yeah. Chris, Chris is even off a little. But it's just, it just had some luck. It's just bad luck.

Yeah, I agree. I mean, apparently we need to, I don't know, we need to, get a box of KFC. Get the Holy Man in there? What are you going to do? Joe Boo. I mean, need something.

You bring somebody in there with the stones and the salt and all that? Yeah. I mean, he was talking about that on. Bless your heart. I don't forget what they call that. I feel like it comes in your house. Yeah. I know what I'm talking about. Put stuff out. Maybe. It changes the energy. Mm-hmm. I mean, priests, it's like messing with Priests. Because priests like, it's almost wins Talladega. Then he gets thrown out. And then he's running good at Texas. too and gets taken out. I need to have an exorcist. We need something. We need to do something. I don't know.

But, I mean, the cars have been fast at times and potentials there. We just need to put it all together. Well, we already know the cars are fast. They all run the same speed. I mean, all the cars run the same speed, DJ. All the cars. You're just having bad luck. All the cars.

They do. Yeah. I mean, if I could put the sixth car. No, you're right. 30th, 15th? Yes. For first, he'll run the same. Same damn speed.

Yep. Same car. Same speed. Same speed. Same part. Same cars. It's all the same. Yes.

It's all the same. How's Formula One? Hey, I went to F1. Went to my first F1 race. It was, that's disappointing. You're disappointed in me? That you finally went,

because we were going to go. Remember we were going to go? That's what it is. I was mad that you went. You didn't go with T. Yes, because we were going to go one time. We were going to go to Brazil. Were we?

Yes. And remember they wouldn't. Remember, they wouldn't let you go because they're like, wow, you get kidnapped, you know. Yeah. Remember we were going to go? I didn't have ransom insurance. And I'm like, oh, great. Nobody's kidnapping DJ.

One guy ruined it for the rest of us. The guy that was going to take us ruined it. Ransom insurance. Yeah. I had a good time at the F-1 race. You know, Red Bull was in, everybody knows Red Bulls in NASCAR, some 13, 15 years ago. And they came in, wide-ass open. We were all excited.

We were like, hell yeah, NASCAR is cooler. we got a Red Bull team just like all, you know, Red Bulls everywhere. It was cool. It was. And while we wanted to kick their ass on the racetrack, we wanted the Red Bull brand to succeed in our sport. Yeah.

And for a lot of reasons, that did not happen. And so had, you know, me and Kelly been running that damn thing, maybe it'd be a little different. But just going to put that out there. They're getting back into NASCAR, but they're doing it in a very, you know, they're kind of dipping their toe in the water instead of just diving into the deep end. Driver stuff a little bit, maybe.

They're coming in with SVG, Connor Zillich. So they'll be like on cars here and there helping these. They're really more behind their... Slower approach. Well, they're really more behind the athlete themselves. Red Bull athlete. Yeah. Than actually owning the entire property of the race team.

So, and it's interesting. man, it's been pretty funny. I was asked to do, so they got these Red Bull Soapbox race videos all on YouTube. They've had them for a long time all over the world. They had these races staged every month all over the world, right? And they asked me to, they want to introduce that to an American audience, so they're going to put a TV show together. And they asked me to be one of the analysts. And I asked them to bring bags in, Mike Bagley, because he has amazing energy.

And we had a lot of. lot of fun over a couple of days filming this TV show that's on Discovery now. You can go to Discovery Channel or the app and watch the Red Bull Soapbox race with me and Bagley being the analyst. And so that's how I was kind of

connected to Red Bull recently. Coincidentally, Connor Zilich drives our car. And he's also a Red Bull athlete. And I took Amy. We had a lot of fun. We got to go to the Red Bull hospitality. It's out of this world, first class. They build

this entire three, four-story structure, and then they tear it down and move it to the next race. It's crazy. It is. And for Hard Rock, where the Red Bull deal was in this one turn, Hard Rock also had a beach

club, where they had a swimming pool and cabanas. I mean, it looked like the back of the hotel where all the swimming pool and all that stuff is. It looked exactly like that. And people were just kind of hanging out, swimming in the pool, Laying on their...

Makeshift there. They built that there for that. Built it there for that for just that purpose. And the temporary structures alone, like the grandstands and all of this, the pool party, all the hospitality is like Red Bull. Everyone has a hospitality and their massive buildouts. All of that stuff is probably the most impressive part of it because it's temporary. It's there for only that weekend, and then they take it all down and the property turns back into whatever, you know, the stadium property.

I was entertained by the race for the lead. Fortunately, Max Verstappen jumps into the lead. He's not got the fastest car. McLaren's are the quickest cars there that weekend, and they had to work hard to get by him. And that was really the entertainment of the race. Once the McLaren's were clear of Max, there wasn't much going on. I mean, you know, there was some other things happening back in the pack. Hamilton was pissed off at his Ferrari and all these different things going on.

Orlando and Max had a little bit of a battle. They did. That part was fun too. But once Max got clear. Once the McLaren's were past, the rest of the race was sort of kind of what you might expect. But what I found interesting was, so I've watched. I watched the race, and I see the McLaren trying to put himself in position. Either one of the McLarens were trying to put themselves into a position to pass Max.

And so when they get on the straightaway, right, the rear wing opens up and the cars get this incredible toe. DRS. Right? And Max has got to defend it. And I'm sitting there watching it, and I'm like, all right, you know, this is a pretty good run. Oh, man, he's coming off this corner. He's right on his ass. He's going to have an opportunity to go by him.

And Max, what's Mac going to do in the next corner? even try to defend this and ultimately the McLaren's get by. That was exciting, but what I was really taken aback by was the fans would go wild when there was even the potential of a pass. So they're going through a series of corners and there's this long straightaway where everyone knows if the McLaren is close enough to have DRS, he will use it and then try to make the pass the next. And they start cheering in the corners leading up to that.

Oh, man, it's about to happen. That's sort of the energy. Oh, my goodness, we might see a pass. And they are thrilled by this proposition or potential of a pass. And it might happen. It might not. And sometimes it doesn't. And they just go, oh.

And then they wait for the next, you know, they wait for the next potential. opportunity and they get rowdy before the pass happens it's no wild and so i was trying to think of that like gosh if that happened at a nascar race the it would it would be just non-stop hollering yeah because that because the opportunity or potential for a pass is happening so often yeah way more than formula way more yeah not not to not not not to not not to say one's better than the other i just was like wow okay you know there's so few um that i'm a suit you know that that max had with uh piastri pastri yeah yeah that battle that they had was very spirited really cool and uh and then lando comes up and they have a they have a battle as well there's a rivalry there but it was different right

the the the way that the two battles looked different and they that there was different body language Right. And then after the race, we had some comments from Lando that we're telling about how he felt about it. Much more physical battle between Lando and Max. Yeah. And how each McLaren driver tried to set Max up was different, right? And so that was kind of very, very entertaining. At the Red Bull Hospitality, got to meet Max. So Max, I have one regret from that, but we had, so I was excited to meet Max, right?

This dude, I didn't know it, but I saw it several, about a year or two ago that he followed me on Twitter. And I'm like, oh, cool, the F1 champion of all, you know, the guy that's just kicking everyone's ass right now. Sim racer. Yeah, follows me on Twitter. That's pretty damn badass. I was, and so, which I have no idea why. And I've never had any interaction with the dude. But I'm a massive, I have huge respect for all of those guys.

Now, NASCAR to me is the greatest thing in the world. But I do feel like that if you get the F1, you must be one fucking great race card ride. You've won a lot to get there. Yes, right? And so, you know, in my mind, Michael Schumacher, Senna, those guys are gods, you know? Yeah, for sure.

They are. And so I have a lot of respect and hold Max to a pretty high standard. So to be able to say hey to him, It was really cool. And I wanted to, I had thought to say, you know, dude, I'm a, I'm a massive, I have a big appreciation for what you do for sim racing because he's all over it. 20 years ago when I tried to tell my team that Sims were cool and they were helpful or the simulator or a static rig or all that shit would be very important for us to pay attention to. They laughed. And now they're all spending millions of dollars.

Hell, we're trying to get a static rig here at junior motorsports. Everybody wants rings. They laughed at us, didn't they, T.J. Everybody laughed at us. Get mad about that. Yeah, we were right. They laughed. We were right.

And so you have every right to sit here and be pissed off about how they looked at us when we told them we played video games. Yeah. See, we knew we were doing. That's what they would say. You just mess playing video games. They thought when we were telling them that simulators were cool that we were talking about Xbox and PlayStation. They had no idea. Yeah.

stuff that sits in front of your TV. Yeah. Anyhow, I wanted to tell Max, like, dude, I appreciate everything you do for the Sim World. Do you legitimize it? He's one of the great, you know, he's on the top of, he's on, he's the top at the top or near the top, depending on where you are in the fan base of the F1. And F1 to me is at the top of the motorsports world. And so it's global. It's beyond global.

Yeah. There's aliens out there watching F1. And so he, you know, he legitimately. He minimizes eye racing, let alone sim racing. He's on it all the time, too. I've never raced with him, but I mean... That's probably my favorite thing about the guy, aside from the fact that he's amazing inside a race car.

And, man, to watch him, so I got to say hey to him, but what we talked about was the weather. I was like, man, it might rain today, you know? How do you feel about the wet? And he's like, I've been running in the rain all my life, even when I was a little kid, just playing in the yard, around my streets, you know, as a kid on carts and stuff. He's like, I'm all good.

If it rains, it rains. I thought for a second there afterwards, like, maybe I was, maybe I wasted my opportunity of conversation on something frivolous, like something that he obviously is amazing at, not saying, you know, I did want to tell him how much I appreciate him what he does for sim racing. But he, we had a, we had a charity sim race on I racing about four months ago. And he, you know, he didn't compete in it, but he did donate during the race. That's right. He did.

A couple times. and he was uh and so we were very thankful for that he's got a pretty successful he's on a pretty successful i think sim racing team that red line or oh if he's on it i'm it's a success yeah they run all the big events too like 24 hour race and stuff so well pretty cool to go to f1 i was curious as to how we would talk about that because people want to know what did you like it better did you like it more um and it's just a different thing. I don't think that's a fair question

to like it better or more. It's just a different sort of motor sports. It didn't. It did not. Whatever love that I have for NASCAR, whatever that pie is, didn't change. It didn't change.

Yeah. And I, you know, I will, and I don't, and I think that that's fair. Is it, is it a great experience?

Would I go again? Absolutely. Especially in another country. Look, I got a, I got a, North, I got a, you know, an American version of the, the global sport that F1 is. I would, I think my experience to go, if I were to go to Monaco or another country and see it,

would be even completely different. Just make sure it's a ransom free country. It would be even more epic, right? To go, to see it in another, to see it in its original form somewhere in Europe. Yeah, like Italy, when the Ferrari fans are going crazy. and the smoking the crowd and stuff. That would be... Yeah.

I just got a little taste, right, of F1. I got the... It's kind of like, hey, man, you love sushi? Well, that's not really sushi what they're making here in the States. You got to go to... You could go to Japan to really get the real...

And so... Where would you go, though, if you could go? Spa. I mean, spa would be good. Spah would be really good. Probably... Yeah, Spah would probably be my top. I'm with you.

Any of those would be awesome. The Xfinity race. Connor Zillich has a back injury. He should be able to return for Charlotte. That's the hope. They got two weeks off. People are going to be like, wow, you know, he's going to be back that quickly. Back injury, you know, all right.

It's enough of an injury for him to not compete for Texas. But wow, he's going to be back at Charlotte. I mean, that's my reaction to it. But knowing what I know about the injury, he absolutely needed to sit out this race. He has a long career in front of him. Exactly. This is not that significant in the grand scheme of things. Absolutely need to take time to allow this to heal.

When the doctors feel like he's ready, he'll be ready. They're saying it could be Charlotte. And NASCAR works with you on that as well as far as the waivers and stuff, you know, for your injuries. You don't want to mess with a back injury, man. That's right. When I got the call, or I got a call that, hey, man, Conner Zilich's backs messed up. because I talked to Connor after the race and he's like, I'm fine,

just sore. And then a couple of days later, they're like, Hey, Connor, he might not be able to race this weekend. And I was like, all right,

call Larson. And so Larson had called us before and said, if y'all ever have a chance to, you know, he's shown interest in driving our cars and if we ever had an opening. And my, my team was like, well,

we're going to, we were working with, track house, let's see if Chastain can do it. I said, all right. So we had this relationship with track house, Chastain, SVG, Conner Zilich, all of that is a track house, you know, partnership. Partnership, yeah. Yeah, the partner sponsors and all that stuff.

A lot involved. Matches up. Well, Chastain can't do it because he would then exceed his limit of races that you can, because he has more races coming up. He's already got five on the books. That's right. Yeah. So back to Larson.

we go. And of course, Larson was like, yep, I'm in. He'll do it. He'll do anything. He'll race anything. He's like, yeah, race more. You got it. And the funny thing about that was, is we were just on this show a couple weeks ago, going after he said he wanted to embarrass the field, which we are part of the field. We took offense. We said, hey, sign up for a couple more. You wanted a shot at him. Yeah. I mean, if you're going to say that, give me all the opportunity in the world to try to get get you and he's like ah no don't have any more and uh no race

play as at this time well then the uh the universe heard all that and said let me show you all so yeah hold on a second yeah hold my beer and uh that's how the universe works man and so there i was uh with with kyle larson who's nearly an automatic wind uh plugged into your car uh and now he's going to go try to embarrass the field in our car. And I told him, all right, now I feel a little bit different. I texted him, I said, I feel a little bit different about this now. Yeah, when he's driving your car, it's great. Oh, I'm sure.

Yeah. I don't know about everybody else, but I love that 88 car back on the racetrack in the Cup series with SVG behind the wheel and safety culture as a partner with him and the race team. Have you seen the safety culture paint scheme? It's pretty good. bright, colorful, and easy to see on the racetrack, and the 88 on the side looks great too. Safety culture is purpose-built for 80% of the blue-collar workforce, the people that are out there working hard every day.

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You know, they had a really spirited battle. Larson actually got loose underneath him. Oh, yeah. That was almost a why are you in my car? Yeah, like, what are we doing? That would have changed your mind. Yeah. you know, guys racing hard. They did a really good job and I was Justin right there.

Well, he didn't. He hit. Well, I mean, from wrecking him, basically. Justin did a good job saving it. Yeah. Justin had a really good car. And, you know, that was going to be a... Justin was in a car that had a chance to win. And with all the chaos that happened late in the race

and how it got challenging for even Larson to pull the win off, you know, Justin could have been right in the middle all that with a chance to seize... an opportunity. And he ran into the back of Chris Wright coming through turns three and four. Oh, man. I've been, you know, I've been seeing all this guy's been getting about, you know, how, you know, some of the, I guess some people feeling like he's made a ton of mistakes and been a problem

on the racetrack. But, you know, I don't, I'm a. I think that I hate that our car was involved in that accident. I hate that it ruined Justin's chance at a good finish. But I prefer a NASCAR where there are slow cars and experienced drivers. Yeah, challenges. Problems, potential issues, moving chicanes, whatever you want to call them. When I think about the, you know, my favorite eras of the sport or some of my favorite races or when I was so in love with this, it had all of those imperfections.

And we, I, we can all, you know, we will, as we move forward, right, in year after year after year, I will sit at this table and all of us. us, we will all talk and complain about who belongs out there, who doesn't, who deserves that ride, who doesn't, who should be in this car. That'll never end. That'll never end, and it shouldn't. It's great that we can have those conversations. That's part of the fuel. And I kind of prefer it.

Now, the alternative isn't bad either, right? Having, you know, having 40 Kyle Larson's out there, yeah, that'd probably be. be pretty entertaining too. But being eight lapsed down or whatever it was and significantly off the pace where you're potentially not even at minimum speed is not an issue. There's a minimum rule. Yeah. That's a whole other

conversation too. So listen, I'll take you there. All right. I'll give you your chance. All right. I do not mind an inexperienced driver that's probably way over his head.

getting opportunities at the truck and Xfinity level. And there will be races where drivers make really bad choices in slow cars. So, and I think that that is just one of the many ingredients that make our sport interesting and intriguing and make a race. It's a story. Interesting. Look, if he don't, if, if he, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if, there's been, for years, there's been, there's been slow, independence out there, grinding it away on the racetrack. They always knew where to be. You know, that's something this guy needs to.

figure out is like, hey, man, where are I, where am I supposed to go to get, to give the other guys the best chance to get around me? He didn't choose this properly at this particular point. Hopefully next time he does. A lot of other people got around him just fine. But we had all, we had all passed him numerous times. But, you know, it, I'm not going to give the guy a ton of shit. What I can say is, and I've had this problem for a long time, back. even when I was way early in my own driving career. The minimum speed rule is not worth anything. The minimum speed rule is egregiously lenient.

It's pretty slow. It's ridiculous. I don't like using the word joke because I don't like, That's a hot take trigger word that just it's insulting a bit when you use it to talking about the governing body and things that we're doing in the sport. I hate using that word. And so I hesitate to use it. The minimum speed rule, and if you look at what minimum speed is at all these racetracks, it is ridiculous. It is ridiculous.

and it should admit the it should be a much more tougher thing to achieve and so you know it's not as noticeable what some tracks are than others Texas it's really noticeable because the grooves are narrow and you don't have a lot of room to escape if you go to somewhere like Kansas and you catch a slow car they run the bottom you go five lanes above him and it's not an issue he wanted to he wanted to bring up the point about the guy being eight laps down and being slow. Well, that's a minimum speed. That's a minimum speed issue for me.

That's where I think NASCAR needs to look into that. Yeah. Well, that's, I don't know why it's always been so forgiving. I remember sitting in the driver's meeting and hearing the minimum speed during the driver's meeting and going, what the fuck are we doing? Like, that is terrible. 84 miles an hour, eh? And so it's just, I don't know, that would be, you know, there are ways for them.

I get, you know, if NASCAR really wanted to try to make it more, you know, if NASCAR tried to want to force these guys to like tidy it up a little bit, they could do it in the rules. They could do it with minimum speed and a few other things. I do not know, you know, there are, there is also the conversation around, you know, should you have to achieve certain things, right, to get to a certain point. should you have to, you know, should you master this before you move on to that and master that before we move on to that? Or do you just need a certain amount of starts at certain racetrack? That stuff was also comes with it with its own set of problems, right? And you would have, for example, like you would have somebody who might win

the national championship in the grassroots Winston Racing Series. late model, you know, whatever, you want to call that. Right now it's the Advin's Auto Parts Weekly Series, but you could have a guy that wins the national championship as many times as you want. Obviously, a very good race car driver, talented, and he can't go race at Daytona because he's not cleared and doesn't have a mile and a half start or something like that, right?

They were, I remember, to the next level. Yeah, and that to me is problematic. Oh, he can't race in the truck race. before he starts an ARCA race. Or he can't run the Xfinity before he runs in our... You know, I remember when we took Lannin Castle to Daytona, and we had to spend money racing him in ARCA

because he wasn't cleared to start in Daytona. This guy was a great race car driver that was plenty capable of going and running the Xfinity race at Daytona, but they wouldn't let us do it unless he had this other start under his belt. So we had to go spend, you know, 25, to $50,000 that we didn't need to spend unnecessarily to run in an Arka race. That was annoying. And I've done that with, you know, we've ran into that sort of hurdle too with other drivers

having to race them in a meaningless, in our opinion, right, in his career, a meaningless race at either the truck or Arca level to get him cleared to go run this Xfinity race. And it's like, this dude is well beyond quality. comparable to other people that are in the field. But we've got to go spend $25,000, $50,000 unnecessarily to just get in this 25th place truck and go run around. And, yeah, I don't know. That's a whole, whole another conversation.

Yeah, that's similar to formula one. They had the license that you have to achieve. There is a way, I think there's a perfectly middle ground, right? System. Yeah. And, you know. I don't think it's black and white for approval. It should be case by case.

You present why your person's qualified to race. I think I could get behind that. Honestly, I feel like that maybe it should be a driver counsel sort of thing where the drivers approve you. And that's kind of what it used to be. Like when you go to Darlington, hell, even A.J. Foyt had to go through rookie orientation at Darlington back in the early.

AJ Foye going through rookie orientation. Right. Back in the late 60th. 70s early age or something like. I remember that being a thing. You had a rookie stripe on his car and everything. But at Darlington, the cup drivers would sit in on that orientation watching these rookies run laps. And they would be the ones that would say, yep, he's ready.

Nope, he's not ready. That's interesting. Yeah. I mean, that's another, the best thing NASCAR could do in any situation is put the responsibility on someone else. And so here's a great. Especially guys they are racing with. Because NASCAR is the one that catches all the shit. Well, you approve this guy and you're letting her race or him race and not this guy, not that girl.

And why? And so it's a NASCAR, NASCAR is catching all this shit. Just put it in the driver's hands and say, here, drivers, you guys get to approve. You guys say it's good? It's on you. Yeah. That would be the way to go. That's what I would do.

Yeah. Because there's a lot of conversation around, you know, that particular thing right now with different drivers this year trying to come in and race. And a lot of arguments over their qualifications and so forth. And leave it to the, let the drivers be the ones to sort of determine if they feel comfortable, allowing someone to be out there with them. And then the fans really can't, if you're a fan, could you then complain? Well, the drivers approved her, the ones out of there, out there racing with him or her

are the ones that have said they're good with it. Then how can they not be? Right. That's the way I would do it. I think it's worth noting with Justin. Justin's interview. I don't know if you saw it or not. I heard it was good.

Justin did a great interview. What did he say? It just that it was kind of, he never blamed Chris. Just I watched the whole situation unfold there. Justin got jumped on pit road by Kyle. Justin was leading. Kyle pitted a couple last four of him. Justin runs a couple last long.

It comes out behind him. So Justin is on kill. He's trying to catch him. And I watched this whole thing unfold. and Justin was just trying to get there because he knew he had a few laps to get Kyle with the new tires and then it was going to get really hard. Yeah.

And Justin's interview, man, he just took, I don't think he didn't blame Chris. Just kind of, he explained the situation kind of like that and the severe, you know, how he was amped up. Like he was trying to go. And one of the better interview I seen Justin do. Yeah. So there was also that.

I mean, wasn't Chris out there on old tires, Justin on new tires? Yeah, Justin had just pitted. Right. So, you know, I've seen some of the best cup drivers in the garage run over each other at Darlington because of the tire, you know, because of the tire difference, one coming off, you know, one coming back on the track under Green Flagg pit stops. I remember Michael Waltrip and Jeff Gordon arguing over, you know, something, or Darrell and, oh, Daryl, there's an interview where Daryl Walter, West Western Auto, Darrell Waltrop is pissed, I think, at Jeff Gordon, because Jeff run over him. when he was on old tires or something. And Darrell gives this interview in the garage after the accident about that. And I mean, you know, that's two veterans.

Yeah, and that's also something to note. Like, that's a good point. One car's on old tires. One cars on new tires. I mean, no matter what your minimum speed is, there's going to be a huge difference. That's a spotter, like Darlington, like you just mentioned, that's one of the hardest things when you're running long and you've got cars with tires come.

You're spotting from so far back that it's hard. Yeah. They're going to get there fast. Yep. I had a really good morning Saturday, had a birthday party for Ila, turned seven this week. Big party.

Big party, yeah, we had 24 little ones out there having a lot of fun. Sounds riveting. It was awesome. Yeah, it is a lot of fun. Good food. Yeah. The dads and all of us were sitting around,

bull-sitting. So maybe you would enjoy it. Okay. That was something for everybody. All right. It is really fun. Yeah. It's almost a dad hang.

It was. We had her, yeah. So that was great. Then the Xfinity race. And I think the eight ran into something early. Early. He soldiered on to a top ten. The one ran into the grass like I did in 2014.

Not quite as bad. Well, ruined his day. It happens. Don't like it. Should they move the grass? No. Thank you. Don't move the grass.

I don't think so either. Don't put, you don't need to even put this, you don't even need to change the grass. Just so you know to defend Carson, he followed a car through it. So it wasn't like he just drove through it. He was following a car. If your friend jumps off a bridge,

are you going to jump off a bridge, T.J. If it's your first time on the bridge, you don't know how far down it is. I'll say this. The way I saw that is he was far left comparable to the other cars. We can argue that all day long. I don't really think we need to waste time on it.

But he did what I'm not, look, I did the shit too, but he absolutely drove his ass into the grass and he is the one responsible for that. There is no, oh, well, you know, that car, this and that another. He got to know where the grass is. So don't move, don't move the grass. Don't change the grass.

Go around the grass. Justin gets wrecked. So Larson saves the day, wins the race, which we hoped he would. Otherwise, it was a rough day. I'm going to have a beer toast, and we're going to celebrate Kyle Larson kicking ass. and Junior Motors Sports winning. But I am disappointed,

mostly disappointed, with that race for us. Have you ever tried to put yourselves in my shoes? Do you know what it's like to... Go to Formula One race is, yes. Do you know what it's like to put four cars on the racetrack and one of them win and the other three have such days? is that it's like uh

mental gymnastics emotional gymnastics i don't but i don't have to i'm not in your i never put myself in your shoes because that's not my problem yeah as long as i have a beer toast i'm happy yeah i'm i'm just trying to see the second stage of these races nowadays i mean nor the other three problems i mean i'm not happy with it but i can move past it real fast i can't he doesn't care either way i can't because uh i can't because you're the owner i can i can i can i can move past just

because Justin's won a championship. He's going to win races. Justin is fine. He's established. He's established. Carson has to win. Carson's future is not guaranteed. I think we can all agree that he's got potential and there's something there.

And if the right things happen the right way that he could have a 20-year career, but it easily could go the opposite way. and these races are these opportunities are, you know, frustrating. Stepping stones, yeah. These are the opportunities that are just not, we're just not. We saw last year, you know, in the few races that Carson ran, hell, he almost won Dover sitting in position. He run top five in every damn race.

He could have, Michigan almost won. Yeah, Michigan he would run top three if he didn't get wrecked. Yeah. He got his ass wrecked in that race by some idiot. But the, so we're going into the season going, man, there's real potential here. Let's get some wins. Let's lock in some support to continue to do this, right? Well, we got to get them runs.

We got to run good. There's a lot of pressure. Yeah, but it's not like he's still racing well. And you look at who's won. It's like, it's not easy. That's not going to. It doesn't make you feel better, but. No, no, no.

That's not going to secure his future. Oh, I know. Right. I mean, he's got to, we got to get, and Connor Zillich, right, he's, Connor Zilich has a pay, a runway in front of him, a plan, right? He's got track house support. Everybody in this, everybody in this industry thinks that, golly, dude, this guy's incredible with the roadcourses.

He figures the Oval's out. It's, it'll be wildly, you know, popular. what he will be able to do going forward. So there's a, he has, Connor has that machine behind him. That excitement, that momentum, right? And so Carson, on the other hand, needs to get the runs and the finishes

to be able to get that same excitement and momentum behind him. I mean, outside of the wins, he is getting the finishes though, is he not? I know we're early in the season and I tell him I'm like man I did that shit Texas put it out of your mind

go to Charlotte win the race everything's great Are you worried that this could put more pressure on him though like There's a lot of pressure on him already

Yeah dude he is under tons of pressure That's what I'm saying And now you're sitting here saying Like you need the results Well he's sixth in the big boy shit What do you want me to do I'm just asking the question

Why are you so soft I think Carson is having a great year I think Carson is having really successful. That's what I'm saying. I know we've been caught up in a lot of stuff. I think his year's great. He's six in points and look who the winners are. Kyle Larson's won twice.

Algar's won twice. Eric Amarro is one. Like, where is he supposed to get the win at? I don't, next week? Okay, but I don't, like he's not racing bad. He just hasn't gotten the-

Not he's not racing bad. I didn't say he's racing bad. That's what you make it sound like. He's running a f***. He is way more strict on. Yeah, and that's, like he's strict on him. I am okay with that.

Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, it's good. It's a good thing. I was the same way with Josh. Exactly. Yeah. And Josh would tell you that. He's like, you're, you're a .

Josh panned out pretty good. Well, Josh is amazing. And I believe in, I believe Josh Barry, he's out there, you know, I know he busts his ass in the cup race, but he's out there leading the race in the 21 car doing everything that we, doing everything that we, me and him and anyone else in his little circle believe he could do. And, man, I see a, I see a. see a world where that would have never even been possible. Like, you know, that whole, that whole split with the, or the whole S-H-R thing and how badly he ran

at the end of last year, he could be out of the sport entirely in another universe, right? And we would never get to see him go win Vegas and run up front in this Woodbrother's car. Even going there, I mean, we didn't know how it was going to be. I'm just saying, but what we're seeing like, oh, yeah, this, well, how about this dude? Yeah. And how about the, you know, how happy are the freaking Wood Brothers right now? And so that's what Carson Quaple can be. My fear is that we may never get to realize that.

And so we got to get these wins. We got to go to, you know, these races in this infinity car and make it happen. I mean, you definitely, you definitely, you definitely, you've got to win. Winning definitely always helps. I am sorry, but I am putting a lot of pressure on the guy. And I don't know what else. I just got to, I can't tell a lie. I appreciate that that's how you I was owner, but I'm just asking some questions.

That's all. If Carson goes and does what Carson can do, Carson will be fine. I know. He's great. He's talented. He's smart, sharp. And Josh, Josh has graduated to the next level now, too. I couldn't be happy with how Josh has transformed.

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on the inside instead of starting next to Larson late in the race and he got out and said I messed up Why would you ever I can't imagine I don't think you ever get out the front row

The only type of driver that I see make that move And I go oh okay Is a guy like Chastain Because I know that he's probably thinking I'm going three wide. But Blaney is not that guy. Blaney is not going to put his fellow competitors in a three-wide situation.

And unless they just got a shi restart. I just don't, he's not that kind of guy. AJ Almondinger, oh, yeah, three-wide every freaking restart. A.J. Almondinger is three-wide on restarts more often than he's two-wide. And Chastain's the same kind of guy. If they lined up there, I'd go, oh, they got a plan, and this should be exciting. But Blaney lining up there, man, I just, I feel like that in those situations, you just, you, I know that you don't want to, I know that you don't love, you know, restarting on the outside. But I think you have to.

Oh, for sure. Yeah, you just, you just got to have to do it. Blaney's car was fast. Yeah. You don't want, if you can get clean air on your nose and you can make it through one and two and be on his outside through the exit, You got a shot. And McDowell got the lead. We got to ask.

If we get a chance to see Blaney, we got to ask him what's going on. Lugano would have never taken third over second. Something's going on, guys. I mean, we had him on national television, sipping his beer instead of chugging it. Now he's not taking the front row. What's happening? Is he settling down? Is he getting comfortable?

Married life's changed him. Married life? I mean, do you think Penskees driver's last? two weeks. These got to be sitting there going. What about me? Yeah. I guess he's sitting there going, I'm next.

Watch, I'm putting money on him in Charlotte. Who do you think is the next non-winner to win this year? The next non-winner. Damn, I mean, I'd have to see the list. So you've got Larson, Hamlin. Larson? Biren. Barson has a one yet?

No, these are the winners. These people that have won already. Well, damn, I said I'd have to see the list of non-winners, and it starts naming drivers. That's exactly in my mind my mind. It's a shorter list of people that have won, so why would I list

out everyone I want to know the top driver that has not won yet. Give me five. Give me five. Give me a multiple choice.

Who is not one yet? Top five. What do you think we are? Chase hasn't won. Reddick hasn't won. Blaney hasn't won. Bubba. Well, I would say going to Kansas,

Reddick could be a really good pick for that one. They've been super fast there. He could have won this past weekend. Shoulda coulda. That's a great. Yeah, that's a great call for Kansas.

The Toyota's and particularly 23. 11. Yes. So. And the Seabell Redick thing is kind of faded a little bit but. He kind of had a couple off days.

I don't know. It's kind of been quiet. Michael McDowell. Let's move on to Michael. Unable to hold on to the lead. Oh, or his race car. Yeah, that happened too. We had this dude.

He only took two tires last time he pitted. He was just trying too hard. And he said in his interview too. He's like, he's like you can't take the fight out when you're racing that hard. Like he said he still had it in him. And that's what happened. He just overstepped. He did a great interview as well.

Damn, TJ just given accolades for these interviews. Did you see a bad? I mean, he didn't lie about it. He was like, I just messed up. Did you see a bad interview this weekend? Any bad interviews? I only watched those two. They were both good.

He loved them. Yeah, they were both good. They took credit. Do you think that Michael should have chilled out and said, hey, man, my ass is kicked today. I'm just going to get this thing home? I think he should have top five didn't come home. He had a shot at winning.

It didn't work out. Wasn't going to win. Like, once you know, If you still think, hey, man, there's a chance. Okay, I can see Busting Your Ass for a chance, but I think everybody knew. Lugano was gone. Yeah, everybody knew that point. Thirds better than hitting that damn wall off of two, I can tell you that. I mean, hit hard.

Especially for his team, Spire, right? Yeah. This isn't hindric cars he's wrecking. This is a building block. Yeah, they need to get that car home. Damn. Yeah. Great interview, though.

Great interview. Oh, my gosh. So Lugano wins, started 27th, drove through the field. He had a little mix-up on the back straightaway, though. What do you think? I know Bubba took blame for it. Bubba bounced off the outside wall. He did, yeah.

Come down across the nose of 22. They were tight, though, guys. Great interview by Bubba. Great interview by Bubba. They were tight, though. They were tight. I didn't think Bubba really had to take responsibility. It was just a racing deal, but.

Do you think drivers are a little, like, Like, I don't know, I better just say I'm sorry now before I create a drum. I don't want to piss Joey off going forward. I was watching, I watched that and I thought, man, I watched that and I thought, man, I bet Bubba's pissed. And then he got, you know, because I thought, you know, Ligana kind of used him up. Yeah, but Lugano was at his left. Not hitting him, but Lugano was like at his left rear. Isn't that what you're supposed to do?

That late in the race? It was late? It was the late? I thought it was the middle race. I was pretty late Well either way I was like oh man I would be pissed if I was Bubba

But he got out and he's like Hey my fault man Yeah I guess it man If Bubba clears him by like a foot He's coming down in front of him into three though You know what I mean So you have you got to take them chances When you get it

Side drafting is so important It's got to keep that position And they're aggressive with it So Lagano survives all this crazy chaos I thought it was so funny man People were saying man I set through this.

I set through all this shit for a Ligano win. That was the whole, like, that was the description of the race. That should be like the, that should be like the title of the thumbnail. Nashville 2.0. I sat through this for a Ligano win. I knew that. A lot of people felt that, especially after the past couple of weeks. Chipper Jones, congratulates Joey, a Hall of Fame driver with a masterful win.

This is what NASCAR fans expect from you, hard charging wins, gracious top five's and tens. Well done. And then I did see a picture. I don't believe it's AI or Photoshopped. Austin. Of Ligano. Victory Lane with the Atlanta Braves hat on.

Yeah. Austin posted a picture too. Austin also posted. With Joey in the background. Yeah. So did Joey take an Atlanta Braves hat to the racetrack or borrow one off a fan's head? What was the situation?

That was somebody's idea. That was somebody's idea. We got to know. Joey's coming on. Yeah. We got to know. Did your ass decide, all right, I'm taking an Atlanta Braves hat with me until I win and I'm going to take a picture with it. I don't want Chipper Jones.

That's a-plus troll. Yes, I respect Joey than even more if he did that move. I'm hoping he says, yep, as soon as that shit went down, I got my Atlanta Braves hat and I packed it. I put it in my bag. I don't think it was jelly. I think I know who it was, though. Damn it, TJ. Don't ruin it.

I'm sorry. Don't ruin it. I'm not ruining it. We'll ask him. Let's talk about Texas. There was this rumor, the track itself, the bump and turn, three and four, all of that. There's been, where are we all on Texas, right? Texas was this grand, amazing thing.

If you think back, though, it had a very, a very challenging, troubled beginning. Mark Martin went out there to drive on it in a test, and it looks sketchy, And they had problems where they actually had to repave the racetrack. They had an issue where all, you know, in one of the first races there, they all went down in turn one and everybody wrecked. And there was just a lot of trouble with the racetrack itself and the drivers were very vocal about it. And the track had to spend a lot of money to sort of get the track where it was accepted

among the industry and particularly the drivers. So the first couple of years there were tough. And then it settled in and became a very, very popular stop on the circuit. I was fortunate enough to win a couple races there and the Xfinity and the Cup car. And back in those days, man, the place was awesome. The infield was a place to be, a late night party. Rocking. It rocked.

It rivaled Talladega, believe it or not. And Watkins Glen and some of the more. more raunch sort of places to go to when you're looking at, you know, kind of fun things to do outside of the race itself. Camping outside of the racetrack was fun and exciting and wild and a good time throughout the race weekend. Over the course of the last couple of decades now, the track has fallen off in terms of lack of attendance, lack of excitement, lack of good racing.

And to, you know, at one point, I can't even remember why they did this, but at one they kind of thought to reconfigure the racetrack and they changed one and two. We raised hell about that because now the interest to term one was kind of a no man's land. It was giant and super stupid wide. And we all kind of had to go down really slow into this flatter turn and it raced even worse. And, you know, NASCAR was also going through these really weird packages for the mile and a half race. racetracks with the with the previous car and it just was not putting on great races and so when they there was a repave in there as well that also was very detrimental to the racetracks racing product

and everyone including I think you know people that own the racetrack and and and work there were like what do we do like this was a jewel and a gem of a place in in in a great area For the series, the sport needs to be in Texas and needs to have great things going. And now it's sort of getting overshadowed by Cota and all of those things. And so I think for me there's some real concern about the future of this racetrack and what should happen here to kind of bring it back and get people excited. Honestly, man, it's happening. Like the last couple of races there, I know that we'd,

don't love everything about the next-gen car and how it races and there's that conversation, but setting that aside, this track is challenging now. This track has multiple grooves. They quit treating that outside line trying to force the cars to race up there, and now they're finding their way up the racetrack naturally, how it should happen. And, you know, putting grip in any lane of the racetrack, manufacturing grip, in any lane of the racetrack on a paid racetrack to me is just a bad idea. And so they quit treating this track and now the cars are starting to move around

and really get up the racetrack. There's bumps and things that aren't right and good. Hell, there's an article in the news from 20 years ago with me and maybe Jimmy Johnson or another driver complaining about the tunnel bump in one and two. Well, now it's the tunnel bump in three and four that's problematic, at least for these cars with the way they set up the next-gen car. Which is fine.

It's fine. Yeah. And just, you know, if you, yeah, it's a challenge. It's a character. That's what we want. Yep. And so there was a rumor going around that some track on the NASCAR circuit was considering getting the Atlanta treatment.

But I believe that it's not Texas. Had you heard that? I haven't. How have you, TJ? I have heard people say Texas needs to go to like an Atlanta style repave or reconfiguration. I'd seen some messages on social about someone thinking that there was a track that was considering that. But it is not Texas. And I know a lot of people were going, oh, it's got to be Texas.

Because, you know, well, Marcus owns Atlanta. He loves what's happened there. So why wouldn't he try to take it to Texas? Yeah. I mean, that's probably natural for them to say Texas first. I think Texas, yeah, of course. I think Texas right now is starting to get into its peak in terms of the age of the asphalt, how slick it was.

Dude, those Xfinity guys were busting their ass all over the place. Everybody was. That's what we need. Don't change nothing right. Cup guys were too. They're up the track, wrecking by themselves. Don't touch it. Don't change anything.

I know. Don't move anything, right? Leave it. Leave it. It's good. I think it's great. So, yeah. I mean, attendance was packed.

There was actually a lot of people there. That was the other thing. So people, I saw this shit. I, so I'm privity, privy to I'm privy-d-dib-d-dib-dy. I'm privy to some information. And so there was this, you know, the track quoted is saying this is the best attendance we've had in the last 15 years. And people were saying, people were looking at the crowd. right in the front straightaway and going,

ah, it's a good crowd. I don't know about 15 years, but it's a good, it's good crowd. I don't know if I, but what you don't know is that they sold out 15 or more suites that were not sold at all over the last several years.

And I've, so I've been up at the suite level, working the broadcasts. And when we, we're working from we're working in this one bank of sweets that are from like probably almost the flagstand all the way to turn for empty empty not even not even being used not a not not no one in there no drinks nothing and um and you're like damn man i mean all this stuff just not no one here

So those, you know, there's a lot of people that are at this race that you didn't see on the broadcast. And so apparently they got a new president at that racetrack who is re-energized excitement brought in some people that are interested in purchasing those suites for their businesses and bringing in their employees and treating them for the afternoon to a race and all those things, right? And so, I don't know, man, it's pretty exciting. I think, you know, Texas in my mind, leave it alone, don't touch it, keep this president, keep doing what you're doing. Crowd was great. Get some, you know, I think people saw that and go, hmm, that looks like a good one to add to my list of possible trips.

It's a fun weekend. Yeah, if you're going to go to a couple races. Dallas is a good area. You might have seen that, Fort Worth. You might have seen that and went, eh, I think I might like to go to that next year. I used to go to Texas. I quit going. It's a great area, too.

Oh, God. It's built up big time around. Oh my gosh. And you got hard eight barbecue out that way. Hard eight. And Roanoke. Roanoke's just about four or five miles up the road. Stockyards aren't far away.

Stockyards. I've never been to stockyards, but I don't want to go. What? I want to go. Why haven't you been there? I've never been. My wife won't take me. How about you take her?

She's from Texas. I'm aware. I'm a guest in her state. This is the thing where I think it's her taking me. Okay. That's fair. Yeah. And so it's like, show me Texas.

Yeah. So the weekend in Texas also I mean you got they start on Thursday night They did start Thursday with the The high limit sprint cars right there too So it's a full weekend of racing Unlike some other Unlike pretty much all the other racetracks

Yeah there's not going on And so great point Tj You got you got trucks Xfinity Cup you got dirt Sprint cars sprint cars Texas is I mean it went from I would say Texas went from like

25th on the list to maybe inside the top 10. It's creeping up. Oh, yeah. Big jump. Yeah. Good job. And the track having character makes it worth it, too. I mean, that's a big part of it.

We should celebrate that. Good things happen. Let's have a beer toast today for it. Beer toast for Texas. I didn't know Travis was going to Texas. Did you? Did Travis go to Texas? Oh, yeah.

I see him walking through the garage area, and I'm like, what are you doing here? He's like, oh, and I look at his thing. He's got a meet-and-grit pass for Danny and everything on. Danny Bros. Danny Bros. Danny Bros. Well, I figured Danny wanted dinner cooked for him on the roads so Travis went.

Yep. And had to cook him dinner. You know what Sundays are for? You know what Sundays are for in the Travis household? Danny. Danny? Do you tweet about Danny? Oh, yeah.

I mean, tweet about his race? He tweeted all day. Damn blown motor. Why wouldn't I? Do you tweet about the affinity teams that you work for? Yeah, actually, I do. He is... You stuttered.

This man... This man invested at least two hours in Denny's driver's introduction antics. So, you know, Denny does horns down because Denny's a – Deney's a – Deney's a – die-hard lifelong Ohio State fan. And so, you know, Denny caught a little bit of – for it because he's visible. He's Denny Hamlin. And he enjoys that stuff, too.

Riley Herps did it I'm still wondering why Riley did it I've been looking for an answer Riley Herps did it and it was the crickets No one noticed And he's like hey Why is Riley Herps not getting all this? My man Denny's getting for this

No I'm not That's what you say I'm questioning Riley No you were like Why is Denny getting so much hate I did not say that You were you like You're like, show me

Y'all leave Denny alone I do have a question Yeah When Denny blows up like On lap you know, four, or whatever. I don't know when it was early on.

Yeah. Why did you stay for the entire race? Because Reddix flew with us. I mean, back in the day when that happened, that driver just found another way home. Yeah, but he's also the owner.

He's also a car owner, T.J. He can't leave. His car might win. Yeah, if his car wins, that's a bad one. I mean, there's also a team playing. Unless he has a seven-year-old having a birthday.

Let's make sure that goes in there. I was hoping. Don't take that out. Don't edit that part out. I was hoping we'd leave, but we didn't. but yeah you can't leave he was hoping they would leave because he doesn't know

where the plane may go next Denny Bro Air who knows and he's sitting there going Was Denny going to take us to Cabo? Denny, hey Denny We could, we could, we're in Texas Yeah let's stop in Vegas play a couple slots Yeah, that'd be nice

Hit the slots. Are we going to go to New Orleans? Yeah Where do the Denny bros go next? Yeah Kamo would have been nice. man. Denny bros. We need a...

Another t-shirt. We need a sound design for that. Yeah, what could it be? Denny bros! But we need some like superhero music behind it. All right, Joe Laganos joined us here on the Dale Jr. Download, the winner of this past weekend's race at Texas and the guy who just had to update his app. Do you have your phone?

Does your phone have the latest update? Are you one of those kind of dudes that goes around like? rarely updating their phone when a new update comes out i rarely update i bet yeah i have to comes up i have to update immediately technology and joey are don't mix very well no mix at all all all right man well you got some trophies behind you some championship trophies um where are you i am at my my shop i got a little uh you're at home a toy barn up at my house that's very nice isn't it fun to be home Oh, it's great. I love it. I moved my home office here, and I can just walk up the driveway and go to work. It's awesome.

Yes. So I have to say, I grew up, this might not make a lot of sense. This might tell everybody how old I am. But I grew up watching America's Funniest Home Videos, right? Great show. Bob Sagitt was a host, and he was like this All-American, you know. Everybody knew. Everybody knew. And then you learn later in life that Bob Sagitt also. also does stand-up where he cusses a ton. And that was kind of my experience when I saw the things you said about your teammate. I was like, this is like when I learned Bob Sagitt Cuss. I was like, Joey Lugano, what a foul mouth. Did your mother have a problem with that?

Did your wife say, hey, what are you doing? Because I can hear my mom going, man, we can do without that. I could see my wife's grandmother calling me and going, What are you doing? Yeah. You're backtracking. Well, no, I was trying to figure out how to say this correctly. What foul language came out of your mouth?

Foul language. It happens. Here's the thing. I'm very emotional, and what you see is what you get. And I think that's really hard for people to understand sometimes because I'm actually a pretty happy person. I enjoy life and I'll, you know, whatever comes to my mind. mind is going to come out of my mouth and most of the time that's okay. But then you put me in a competitive environment and like I really, really like to win and

I really want things to go a certain way and I work really hard to make sure it does. And when it doesn't, I get pissed off and the filter thing is still not there and whatever is in my mind comes straight out of the mouth and yeah, it unloaded pretty quickly. So it's funny because when I was a little kid, I would get around dad. dad's peers like Rusty Wallace and those guys. And you would, you took, I don't know why,

but you took notice of like who, like Rusty Wallace says an F word in every sentence. Like Rusty says the F word a lot, just in general conversation around people. And he, you know, and then there's other, dad cussed quite a bit around his buddies.

But, and I say the F word right here on this show a lot. And a lot of cuss words generally. I have to be really careful when I go home because it slips out. But Joey, I've never heard you say a cuss word ever until, I don't think, until you were talking on your radio. Really? I don't think so.

Joey doesn't seem like the kind of a, you know, you're very. He doesn't cuss a lot. When's the last time you got in trouble for cussing? I'm in, I don't know. Did I get in trouble this time? No. I mean, when's the last time you did get in trouble for any cussing on a radio? I feel like I'm pretty conscious of it most of the time.

I don't really have a reason to most of the time. And I got kids now. So I try to be my best, which my wife told me. She goes, you know when that it was all happened? The kids were at MRO. I watch the TV at MRO and she's like, oh, I bet. So I saw a photo of you in Victory Lane with an Atlanta Braves hat on. Yeah.

Does that a? Yeah, who gets credit for this? I need to know. did you after last week and everything with Chipper on the internet which is all now good y'all y'all have kind of had a little back and forth and everybody's happy but when

you had that go down did you get a Braves hat and stick it in your bag to take it to the racetrack should you get? Where's the Braves hat come from? No it was an idea in Victory Lane I was like oh man we should get a picture with a brave's hat on and just send it to Chipper as a eh you know who had it?

Lawyer lawyer Warren told me that Drew helped out with it. You did help out. There was somebody who works for NASCAR hat had the hat and I had to have it on that day and I said let me borrow that thing real quick. Well worth it. It was. And then I was kind of like, well, how do I do this? And I was really busy yesterday. I didn't have the opportunity to do anything. And I was, I wake up early in the morning and it was like five this morning. And I was scrolling through social, which I should not do. But I was. And I was like, you know what? I figure out how to handle this and then I saw he tweeted something nice to me and I'm like oh geez

of course he said something nice well the picture how do I handle this no no I think the picture was fine I thought the pick yeah the picture were good you had the picture of Victory Lane then then Austin does the picture in the team debrief and

and then he does a tweet it's like hey you know we all we all can understand it's all good it was funny Austin did come in with that Bray's hat on yesterday and I thought when he did that last week it wouldn't be that funny but nowadays. I know.

He was on the show last week and we told him that he should have done it last week. We were like, man, you missed the opportunity. Yeah, he was pretty good about it. We pried him a little bit. He really wouldn't. That would have been hilarious. Yeah, it would have been good.

Well, so the race for you at Texas was really eventful. You had to work really hard to get the track position. It was really chaotic. And I know that, you know, you had some comments about the car in practice and difficult. difficulty passing.

We know that still exists. The next-gen car problems aside, Texas seems to be or becoming a very, very fun race, at least to watch. What's it like for the drivers out there? Because the bumps are character. They're creating crashes. They're creating cautions. They're creating restarts.

They're just slick. Everybody in the Xfinity truck and the cup were busting their ass. It just seems like everything we would want. Is that what you're feeling behind the wheel? It's a tricky track. It's really technical, yet it's really fast. And that makes it pretty unique to have kind of both of those. Kansas this weekend, it's Hammer City, right?

Like it's fast and smooth and it's as hard as you can go. But, you know, you go through Texas, and you have one and two that's such a flat entry, and you have some options down there, which is nice, whether it's the bottom or the top there. And then three and four, it's like, man, you're ripping through that corner. And then you get to those bumps, like you say, and it's out of control. Like, it is really sketchy. And it bites people. And it's kind of like this versus reward of how fast you want to go through that corner.

And what are you willing to put out there? Because when you hit it wrong, it's going to just swap ends on you and you're going to back it in. So with all that said, I mean, as a fan, I mean, I was in the box booth Saturday or Friday night for the truck race. And it's, I mean, there's a lot going on. Like, I mean, the racing's pretty entertaining all the way through. And so, I mean, even if that race ran green, Blaney and the five of Larson were going to have a battle, right? And was he going to be able to pass for it or not? I don't know, but it was going to be a battle to the end.

And either way, with the restart at the end, was still a battle. It was an exciting race to watch. And I know you're thrilled to be able to walk away with a victory. and pretty excited overall, I assume, about how much speed Penske has this season. Usually you guys are the ones that develop that speed and have it at the end of the year when it really, really counts. But starting off the year strong, man,

and wishing you the best going to Kansas, and thanks for giving us a little time today. I appreciate that. It's nice to have some speed early in the year, like you said, and it's nice to finally capitalize on the speed. We've done everything that we could to ruin that at some point. We've had the opportunity to win a lot this year. So it's nice to finally capitalize on the first one and hopefully we keep stacking in.

And we are live. All right. Do they hear that part? I don't know. We are live. I think they hear that part. Because you say it with such inflection. I believe that you believe they hear it.

I want you to know. All right. You could just say, and we're live. I could do that. Yeah. But what's the fun in that? Yeah, that's a good point. That's a great point.

You're alive as booming, Andrew. You are alive. Yeah, that was booming. That's it. That's a good segue, TJ. That's right. You're on it today. You're welcome.

Well, you know, booming speeds when you see it, TJ. I do. I see it with Xfinity. Except for the RFK stuff here lately. Xfinity Wi-Fi. It's fast until it hits. Exfinity Wi-Fi. Well, it's booming like the roar of a NASCAR engine.

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Jay wants to know what is that pink sheet behind T.J's shot. And it's like that pink slip of paper. Oh, yeah. Well, if I should, I'll tell you what this is. A reason why I have, it's a speeding ticket. And the reason why I have this here inframed is because, some tried to sell it online.

What? Yeah. Come on. Some jerk was like, I'm gonna sell this online. I don't know how you even get this. It's probably illegal.

So I gave it to him. And so I had to, dude, I had to buy it because it had my license tag number. It had driver's license number by address. How fast were you going?

And I'm like, this is illegal. Well, you were illegal getting it. That's like important and stuff. You were illegal to get it. How fast were? you going. Oh man. You ain't going to believe this shit.

45 and a 40. Oh, come on. No way. Yes. No way. Kidding me? Forty-five and a 40. Well, that's what he wrote it as. He was probably going faster. He did him a favor. Oh, that's what the cop wrote it as? Yes. It's possible, yes.

I was probably doing more than that and they probably knocked it down to give me. How did you get him to knock it down? You talk your way out of it? Exactly. I've been I've been riding with him when he was and pulled over before. I've never seen him get a ticket. I don't say. Oh, no. What are you supposed to... Yeah, I mean, I've been pulled over once

and, I mean, you run your mouth? No, you kidding me? I was scared to death. They take his license as they come back and say, they have a good day. John wants to know, what would your last meal be? Like, what's a good... What's on that category of, like, this is deserving of the last meal?

I will take this opportunity to say that some of the... I love buffalo. I was going to say buffalo chicken, something like that. I love buffalo. and there's two choices. What's your last meal? So you can have both. Can I add both?

Yeah. All right. I would get chicken wings from the 500 Club, which is a new place here in trout. It's kind of Troutman Statesville. So Rick Allen, Stenhouse, Ham, Denny, a bunch of people invested in this golf course.

And it's got a restaurant on it called the 500 Club. and they hired a really, really good chef. Well, I went up there because I was helping Rick Allen with some photos and big framed photos and stuff. I have lots of giant framed racing memorabilia and photos and stuff. And we walked through my collection, and I was like, take whatever you want. I put it on the walls of the locker room and all that stuff down there

and at the clubhouse. And so I went up there and had lunch one day with Rick, and their buffalo chicken wings are the best. Buffalo chicken wings that I've had in a long time. So I would get chicken wings from the 500 club. You can go up there and eat there any day you want. They'll be glad that you came. And if you're a Daytona 500,

when you're an automatic member. All right. Does that count for spotters too? Yeah, I was going to say to do I go? Just drivers. And so there's a couple Daytona 500 trophies and suits and stuff in there. It's pretty neat. Whose trophies?

Stenhouse and Michael Walter. and different people like that. I think Michael's an investor as well. I'd have those chicken wings and then I would have a buffalo chicken buffalo shrimp from the raw bar in Key West.

Yep. Buffalo theme. Yeah. And probably about two or three dozen oysters from there. Oh! I'd have to get a pepperoni and a pepperoni with banana peppers. I'd have to get Wait wait a minute I'd have to get pepperoni

Gross With banana peppers From pie in the sky Yeah I just took Travis there For the very first time This week Or last week

Nice Pie in the sky pizza They're a mom and pop's joint They're so main street In Moresville And they have a They have a An Italian sub

And you gotta get it toasted Yeah We have your own sub there Yeah You know that, right? That's it. Yeah. I call it to Dale Jenner sub.

I don't know if they call it that anymore. Well, his is. They don't call it anymore. Some of you guys like, I don't know. His has like mustard and stuff on it. And that doesn't come stock with mustard. So I've been eating there since I was in school. I've been going to pie in the sky all my life to eat.

It's been there since I was 15, 16 years older. It's been there before that. But I've been going there since I was in high school. Family-owned, great place. Yeah. And they just got into a new building. It's not a new building. It used to be the cleaners.

But they remodeled this building. And it's awesome. And so I used to get the sub toasted and I get no tomatoes. And I liked it comes with mustard mayo and it comes with oil and vinegar, which is it's just really, really good. And so they called it to Dale Jr. sub for a while. but I wouldn't go in there and go I want the Dale Junior sub I want my sandwich

I would go in there and ask for what I'd want and they'd go to the Dale Junior sub they called it that man they did call it they did call it but I haven't go in there in order they knew what you were yet I don't think that

I think that was just a thing and it's faded go in there TJ ask them for the Dale Junior sub see what they say they probably look at you and go exactly what is that because the son runs it now

I think and he knew then because he I don't think that they know what the sub the Dale Junior Sub is. I think it was just... I was going there so regularly. Yeah.

They knew your order. But now they... If you went to... I had had people go in there and order the Dale Junior Sub and get it. See? But I don't think that's the thing anymore. I don't see it on the menu.

It is not on the menu. I bet if you called and talked to the person that had been working there for a while, not somebody knew... I would be very proud if somebody were to go there and order it, ask for it and it actually... They knew what... They knew what to do.

Yeah. I think the son would know. The guy that run, I think he runs it now. I think we're wasting a lot of time. We're wasting these people's time. Next question. Let's see, next question. I'm also seeing a comment on the YouTube chat.

You're part of the No Tomatoes game. Will I be playing, oh, will I be playing Grand Deft Auto 6? Of course. Yeah, someday. Someday. Yeah. Eventually. Someday.

Yeah. Not for another year. I got, I know, I know. Well, Amy's going to be, you're 60. Why are you playing video games? GTS. I'd be like, ah. Hmm.

I was playing them at 50. Well, actually, this is the perfect segue. Craig wants to know what was your favorite video game growing up. Damn. You know what? I was just... We and Amy were just talking about this. What are...

So I've had an iPhone since the first iPhone came out. Now, some of you guys are too young probably to really remember. But the very first app I downloaded on my iPhone was the beer drinking app. Yep. That was fun. But you remember flight control where you had the airport and you had to direct all the planes and helicopters? I had a very similar one with boats. Oh, yeah.

It was so much fun. Oh, my God. Me and Amy were thinking about old iPhone games. I miss that. Yeah. I don't think they make it. Yeah. Do they really?

Flight control is still there. Oh, that's what I'm doing it. I thought about getting it. I thought about getting it. It's so much easier. It'd be just like, but I'm afraid it's just like, you know, me and Amy got an old Nintendo and we're like, oh boy,

excite bike, you know, double dribble. No, yeah. And we start playing and we're like, so slow.

Can't tell what that is. Like, it's so bad, you know, and we played it on such a, you know, we're playing it on this, you know,

this big screen. Yeah, 40s TV. Yeah, it doesn't translate over. Yeah. Yeah, it's not good. Like it was being played

on a 27-inch TV or 13-inch or, you know. Remember the mafia game we used to play? Yes. Remember we had the guy. So, listen, this is awesome.

We had a guy here that used to run our IT department. And let's just be, I'll just go ahead and put this out there. If there's a way for me to cheat in a video game, I'm doing it. Oh, I found out already. Yeah. And so I got nothing to say. I am not, I am not to be trusted. We're aware.

I'm going to bend. Innovation. Innovation. Every rule. Creativity. That I can do. And so now I've got my I've got some

You know I've got some character But there are But for the most part I will hack And so Now I won't illegally hack To get kicked off of steam

And things like that And I'm not gonna do that But We had There was this little mafia game On the old original iPhones And all it was was basically Mafia Wars

No No it was way before Yeah it's not It was just a, it was literally, I'm seeing a few comments in my keywords. It was just text. Yeah. It was just, oh, okay, okay. You mashed buttons to collect money, then you might,

you might fight this guy, but you just mashed a button. You mash a button to say, I'll fight this guy. Get attacked in the night. Win or lose, and then you would get attacked throughout the day while you were just kind of doing your daily thing, and at night. But while you're, while the game's happening, you're, you can be attacking and collecting money. And it was just pushing buttons. It was no movement, no animation, no real video game moment.

We, our IT guy, wrote a program that would click the screen. So we figured out how to port this onto the laptop. You could play it on the computer as well, the website. And he made it so you could click things on the website. And we figured out how to be able to, at night while we were sleeping, continue to wage war and continue to fight. So you would go to, I had this thing sitting on like a fight. gallon bucket in the utility closet at my house running all night on a little laptop. Yeah, we all did.

We all did. And I'd go to bed. You didn't want to get attacked. I'd have like $100,000. I'd wake up and I'd be like, $4 million. Hell, yes. Kick some ass last night. If you sat dormant, somebody could attack you and take your money.

But during the day, you're playing. Like we're all right. Hey, man, you attack somebody? You're playing? We're playing this game. I got into Clash of Clareman. We were all in the clash clans and then he ruined it. How did I ruin it?

Because I woke up, we were all in the same size towns or whatever we were building here. I spent some real money. I woke up, I woke up one morning and looked at his and he had these walls that were like three levels higher. And I text him like, dude, what the heck? And he's like, sorry, I got drunk and rage upgraded. That's exactly what he said. I'm like, are you serious? Sitting there drinking beer.

I'm like, eh, that's been a hundred bucks. I got drunk and rage upgraded. Oh, you can buy. your way to success out. Yeah. I think what, but the original question

was video games, what video games do we play? Yeah. So I had, when I, when I went to military school, we had this little common area where we could buy

candy bars and soft drinks and everybody kind of would get there when we had these down times, right? Everybody would go there. It's a pool table, a couple of video games,

and one of the video games was Mike Tyson Punchout. Stand up, console can stand up console i have one of those in my house um and so mike tyson punch out is uh pretty cool i'm not all that great at it anymore i tried to i can get past bald bull and that's about it but um if i fired it up right now but i uh i remember like standing in that that area in military school you're homesick as hell you don't know half of these kids very well you all just met months ago, but you're standing there cheering on somebody because they got all the way to Tyson.

And they would lose and then you're like, man, tomorrow, go try again. Tomorrow is going to be the day. And we'd all, you know, it would be 20, 30 of us crowded around this one console, standing on top of the pool table watching one guy try to beat Tyson. It's like live sports. Yeah, it was awesome. We had nothing else, right? Yeah.

And so. Between Mike Tyson and. the Playboys you brought in or one of my that was Christian school Oh my bad But uh Yeah TJ get that right Yeah

I um I mean I've had all the consoles I had the original Atari I'm 50 So I've seen about all of them Most of mine were EA sports games I played a lot of Zets The original Nintendo

I got pretty heavy into playing that a lot A lot of Mario Brothers Original Zelda What about Golden I? Nope Oh, Gold and I was so fun. Played a little contra. It was good.

Renegade. Excite bike, double dribble, all of those. I've seen a lot in chat. I'll go through a list here. Paper toss. Nope. Paper boy. Paper boy.

Paper toss, like the one with the fan. This is when we were talking about iPhone games. Yeah, we did play that in the beginning. Mafia Wars. Ball in the bucket. Mafia Wars might have been the game, TJ. I don't think Mafia Wars is not the same. I've seen it on there now.

Mario Kart, NBA Jam, World of World of World. Warcraft, Flappy Bird. Oh, I did, I did play some World Warcraft, the original ones, Command and Conquer. I played, in terms of racing games, I played Bill Elliott's NASCAR Challenge on PC. It was a DOS program. It was so awesome. You loaded it with floppy disk. Yeah.

I was like, holy shit, this is awesome. It was awesome. Days of Thunder on Nintendo could have been great, but you drive into the corner at the bottom, and the car just plowed to the fence. And so you'd be tapping the button. Your thumb would hurt like hell. And you're like, oh, get hit the wall. Every freaking corner, it just wouldn't turn. And your tires wore out extremely fast comparable to the competition.

And you caught those lap cars at the wrong time. Yeah, and they were in the block like, they block like crazy. And so that game, while it could have been great, it was very frustrating to play, but it was still really cool. I enjoy a bad car game. I like Alastair Jr.'s Indy car on console. Yeah, that was pretty. pretty awesome. You could design the cars.

Paint your own cars was pretty neat. Indy car racing on PC for Sierra, Papyrus, which is now IRIS. Yeah, the original IndyCar game was fun. That was pretty good. And yeah, now, you know. Then the NASCAR games started. All the NASCAR games that were on.

And I just dropped console altogether. All we played only after I got my PC, after I got into PC gaming in 95 or 96 with I race, or with the original NASCAR game. I got into PC. I quit consoles unless it was Madden. Madden in college football. Oh, um,

bases loaded. Yeah, Base is loaded was good. Original Nintendo? Yeah, Base as load was good. Yeah, Cally.

I had a kid, a buddy mine, the preacher's son, I'd go over at his place and play bases loaded, man. And he just kicked my ass that used to annoy this out of me. He loved baseball. We trade baseball cards and stuff like that.

But it's so annoying when you sit down and play a video game with somebody who's way better than you. Oh, my God. Is that why you cheat? I cheat to win. Now I know why you hate playing me. I cheat to win.

That was good, T.J. So we, I will, I'll put this out there. I beat T.J. You'll put this out there? Yeah. I beat T.J. In college football. And one of the things that I did was I took my,

This is a hack, and it's kind of, it's bullshit. But you can take your wide receiver and your tight-in and your fullback and right before training in the off-season, send them to the offensive line, like a tackle, move them to tackle. And then they'll train as an offensive lineman and get these really badass run-blocking attributes. And then when training's over, you move them back to their original position. So then when you run the ball, I got like a wide receiver and a tight-end. out there panicking guys like he's a guard.

Oh, yeah. It's ridiculous. He's a tackle. And so, yeah. I had to study a little bit on how to beat you, but I practiced a little bit. I kind of had a good game playing for it, but it's still fun. Listen, I've seen one time, I mean, this is a long, Daytona one time, you and Shane, the bus driver, played Madden, and it almost ended up in a fight because he got so mad at you.

Yeah, dude. It's like the indie car drivers. I don't. I don't get this way with the college football but man, I was in the Madden League with T.J. probably 2012, 14 and I don't think anything ever made me as angry as playing as some of those games. And there was nothing in particular that happened just losing.

Yeah, it's frustrating. And, you know, you'd think, oh, man, why didn't he catch that? You know, you throw it to the receiver and the receiver gets popped, he drops the ball and you don't get the first down. and you got a punt. You're like, you have one job. You know, you're like so mad. And I had to quit.

I was like, you know what? I really don't think I need all this anger and negativity in my life. I know a way to remove it. And that's just not to play the game. But, and I had won a couple championships and I won a couple of Super Bowls. So I was pretty happy. You knew when I hang it out. I proved it.

In Madden, we would take wide receivers and move them to tight in. Then you'd have like a 93, three speed tied in and he just streak and nobody could cover them we got to find a way to lock it so you can't go into edit and change the player's position yeah as long as that's open it's still fun gonna have to yeah j's still having fun i don't have any i don't make any rules for the college deal and i'm not going to this time it's too much everyone's having fun just play it i think that's a good place to wrap i want to i want to remind everyone jrem fan day may 22nd at 830 a m autographed session wristbands we give it out first come first

serve. Can a chance to meet you, Dale, at 1030. Kelly, Wyatt, 130, Carson, Quoppel, Justin Allgaier, Sammy Smith, Connor Zillich,

Connor Hall and Kaden Quaple. Dirtymo Media is going to be doing some live stuff as well. So we'll be on the Dirty Mo Media stage, doing some live podcasting. Might have, see, it might have an Amy Earnhardt's sighting. Whoa.

Out there. It's just in. I know that's probably not been announced yet. Well, Well, it has now. Allegedly. Well, see. Hey, all right, everybody.

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Xfinity proud premier partner of NASCAR. Place your bets, ladies and gentlemen. Place your bets. All right, so it's time for Dirty, Modeau. We've got a full damn house here. Everybody's here. Tims and the professor, Russell, the professor, is joining us remotely. Thank you, Russell.

Thanks for having me. Let's get right to it. We can talk about this. weekend at Texas, Tim's. Did you have any success? Oh, no. God, no. Our best bet did hit,

and that was about the only thing. Your best bet? Our Austin Dillon top 10. It cashed. Everything else was in position to hit, and then they all crashed, got screwed by a caution, blew a motor,

something. Well, we encourage everybody to make these bets on our favorite betting app, which actually sponsors this segment, fan duel. So we all did the world of justice by bringing up the Austin Dillon top ten.

He goes out there and gets it done. But nothing else worked. Nothing else worked. Really? What was what I was going to do? Geez, you're going to throw a couple guys in the top ten far. They didn't get there. I think two or three got there.

Ricky. I think you had Ricky. Did I have Ricky? Yeah. Oh, boy. I think the other guy, I forget now. Oh, it was like priest or somebody. It was priest.

Somebody wrecked. Dude, that was good. I was close. Yeah. You were close. That was a big payout. Man. Yeah, I forget what I told people to do this.

I should remember. I should have wrote it down. Yeah. Well, we're moving on to Kansas unless there's other sports betting conversations to be had. I know that there is one bet that I am tailing on Fandul with our boy, Travis. And it won last night. It did cash. Good job, buddy.

I shared it. You helped me double. my money. You're welcome. Thank you very much. But on to Kansas, we have the favorites. Larson, obviously,

at plus 400. Byron Reddick, Blaney, Hamlin at plus 800. Bell at 1100. Lugano. And, wait, did I say Elliot? I did, right? Bell and Lagano,

or Bell in, I'm sorry. Bales at plus 1100. Ligano and Elliot are at 1,800. 1800. I like the Reddick bet for a win. I think 2311 has been amazing there. Everyone knows that. What's Bubba?

Yeah, that bet's $2,200. Ooh, dude. I know. Good value there. It is. Well, that's what Vegas thinks, Russell. What's the predictor telling us? Well, hold on.

I'm going to go back to Redick. You said he liked Reddick. I know he was won there, but he's finished 20th or worst in five of the last seven race. is there. He's finished 20 or worse in the last eight mile and a half races, or five of a mile and a half. Okay, we're not betting him. We're good it. We're getting it. I know he's won there. I know 2311's good there, but that's the one caution I would give you. What about Bubba? Bubba, he's got that win there, but other than that, he hasn't been great there. Oh, man. Well,

what does the predictor think we should do? The predictor agrees a lot with Vegas. Larson, Hamlin, and Byron, by far the outstanding favorites, then Bell, Byron, Elliot, Reddick is in there, Chastain, Busher, and Blaine. Where's the good value? I personally think it's Danny Hamlin because he's plus 800,

but he should be probably closer to Larson at plus like 450 plus 500. Does his, where he's going to qualify, hinder your thoughts on that, though? Do you know where he's going to qualify? Has he told the Denny Bros. And he's going to qualify somewhere specifically. He's going to come out early when the track's dirty.

He's obviously already talked to Travis about this. He's coming out early, dirty track. Diddy bro? Probably. Really? Yeah. Dang it. It does.

It will hurt his qualifying. Not as bad as in Texas. Well, then the number might go even better. We might get even better value. Yeah, I would hold off anyway. I'm just saying plus 800 right now is pretty good. But at worst, it's going to go down to plus 600. Because he could qualify poorly.

The number could get better and we get better value. Yes. And he still wins. We all win. Yes. Daddy Bruce. He won there for 23rd though. So it's not like he doesn't know how to win from back there.

And the next gen car? What's not talking about that, Travis? Come on. So why not, you know, what's wrong with a, to me, a Busher, a priest, even a Kyle Bush was running well there last time. So, but, you know, Busher almost won the race. Yeah. This week I'm focusing on teams that are really good. And they will narrow it down after practice and qualifying, I think.

RFK, great. They have good speed there. Even last week at Texas, I'm looking at raw speed, had good speed. Spire had some speed. You might look into some of those guys if they practice well. To me, Spire has a lot of front-end speed, like qualifying and practice speed, but I don't see it all race yet. Yeah. I think McDowell shocked me that he was around at the end.

Well, it was because of the cautions. If we had a long run with the two tires, he would have faded, in my opinion. Yeah, not a bad point there. But I think one team that is going to be fake And to avoid his trackhouse They have the finishes But they're like mid-20s in the raw speed And I don't trust that at all

Well Can the predictor tell me A good three driver parlay For top tens No Hey That's not nice I just want to avoid these parley

What if What if we did like a busher Red our chastain and Bowman. Got it. That's a good top 10 parlay for us. That's what I like. Bowman's a sleeper there for me.

I think so. Russ, is there someone on the model that you think is lower than they should be higher? I would say Joey Logano's 12th and he's been super good this year

and especially on this tire. He's done very well. He's the second best. on this tire this year behind um uh byron where was the other where was where was he been super good at because i don't i mean i just don't see the speed there quite and last year i think the spring race penske car struggled quite a bit at kansas in the spring race got a little bit better in the fall but look at the last two or two of the three mile and a half tracks this year it was um

last week that all the penskeguards were fast and then vegas they were all right i like uh i might I might add a fourth to my top 10 parlay, Josh Barry. I was going to say. Remember when he subbed for, I think it was... Chase? Nope, 48. I thought he subbed for the 40. I watched him pretty quick.

Did pretty good in that race. I know they probably didn't get the result, but... It's hard to beat momentum, and I feel like Josh and that team's clicking right now. Yeah. So it's hard to... Especially on the mile and a halfs. Yes. Yeah.

For sure. He'd be a good top 10 bet, too. you probably get some good plus one. That's what I'm doing. I'm going to do a four driver parlay. I'm not really going to bet, but that's what I would try. Now, we're going to try to remember that I said this, right?

Where can we write this down? I need like a, we need some, put it in the notes. Maybe one of those chalkboard paint. A little dry race board. We need to paint this wall. Give me some chalk. Chalk paint.

So the other guy, like, with our NASCAR Insights, Dale, our new stats, is that Ryan Blaney's been fourth, in the speed rating this year in the past at Kansas in the next gen car. He's been third in 2025 and on like tracks and he's been third in long run speed

and he's the fastest in the passer rating on mile and a half tracks this year. So he's the only one that is on all those lists. But he is way down the list in beer chugability and lane choice. Russ, what's Ross Chastain at Kansas.

He's one of the few drivers that has plus money. He's going head to head against Reddick, who you said hasn't been racing great. So I like him. He's got four finishes of seventh or better in the last six at Kansas with a win last year. And he's finished seventh or better

in the last seven races of 2025, or five of the last seven. And he's been top 10 and five of the last seven mile and a half tracks. Well, man, that's some good information. And we'll see how all this pans out over the weekend. Thank you, Professor, for gracing us with your Emmy expertise, your Emmy winning knowledge.

Thanks, Dale. Thank you, Tampa Tams, for coming through, man. Thank you. Good job. Kind of. I mean, you didn't really do a good job last week. I did not, no. Yeah, but you can't bet on it, so at least you're not betting loose.

This sucks for me. It really does because I don't get a play. Yeah, but right now you'd be giving you losers. Well, that's true. Yeah. I do love the top 10 parlay. I know you hate that. Because you're not going to win.

I know, but I just like the idea of bad over like picking one singular driver. Okay, but the reason you shouldn't is you're getting plus money for a driver. You don't need to parlay that. Yeah. I'll tell you what. I like the one we created today. I do. I like that one.

Do you remember what it was? Yeah, it was Bush. Bowman, Chastain, Barry. Okay. Busher? Yeah. He said, well, Professor said, Busher. Did he? We could take him off. I would take him off. I like Barry, I like Barry, Bowman, and Chastain better. Let's leave Busher. Okay. I would leave Bush.

That's a lot, though. That's four of the ten spots. I know. What if it hits? What if it hits? We'll bet Bushers separately. I'm not going to bet four drivers. That's too. We've got to pick 30. Could you round robin that? Maybe he could. I'm not going to get into that, though.

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