The Dale Jr. Download - The Magic Behind Dale Sr.'s Speed & Gus vs. The Snow

Episode Date: February 6, 2026

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Hey everybody, I'm Del Anheart Jr. and this is the Dirty 30. The best highlights from all of our podcast this week, 30 minutes every single Friday, the Dirty 30 coming at you. Let's get right to it. Hey, everyone, it's Kelly Arn Hart Miller here and welcome into the RB Studio for another episode of the Dell Jr. Download. I won't be by myself, though. In just a couple minutes, Marcus Smith, President of Speedway Motorsports will be joining. And for a big announcement, although I'm sure a few, few of you could be guessing what that is. So enough about that. Let's bring Marcus in. So, you know, first things first. And I'm super curious about this from a team owner standpoint, because when they announced or, you know, announcing the change with the roval, you know, that's a

race that a lot of times will run our fifth car and we'll have a road course ringer, as they call them, right? And a sponsorship or something that comes together because somebody says, I want to a road course. And so with that news coming at this point in the year, what is that like? Like what, you know, what brought that on? What's the time frame? How does that come together like that? That's a great question. So we, I don't know, I hadn't been thinking about it. I was thinking about lots of other things in our business going into January and coming out of December. but the Charlotte team was having a strategic meeting. They were kind of talking about your planning.

And Jessica Fickensure said... Smart lady. She's smart. She's smart. She said, what do you think about going back to the Oval in October? And, of course, it's not the first time I've heard that because Dale has said it many times. And, you know, but when Jessica said it and kind of in the context, to the whole group, I said, well, what do y'all think? Is it, what do the fans think? And they,

they said, you know, when you think about the point system, kind of going back to the chase, and in that story of kind of going back to the way we were, the last time the chase was at Charlotte, it was, you know, the oval for the Coke 600 and the Oval for the Bank of America 400. So we, I said if you guys think that fans will like this and it'll be the best thing, certainly the racing is good. Dale will say, I told you so, and we'll all have fun. And so that was kind of how it happened. And so then we made a few phone calls to NASCAR and our TV partners. And of course, Bank of America's a sponsor and everybody thought it was a good thing if the fans were into it. How much influence does the TV partner matter?

And the process with NASCAR, just, you know, being a decision that you can make within a month's time from a strategic meeting that you guys have in terms of all of your conversation and then the other people that you have to talk with. You know, what I think is neat is that all of those parties care about what the fans think. And I think just the timing was such that, you know, back when we when we introduced the Roval, it was at a time when road courses were having this amazing surge. The fans were saying, boy, we love road courses. They kind of raced like a short track. And so we brought out the roval, and it provided another road course in the schedule, a road course in the playoffs, and it made for something new and different. So it was one of the highest rated races in TV for a couple of years.

Great growth and great excitement and some great highlights from the race. But I think the new. car and the way NASCAR officiates, the racing hasn't been as exciting as it had been initially. So, you know, we want to deliver excitement. We want to deliver, you know, a great event that has fantastic competition and those amazing highlight worthy moments in racing. So all those people, whether it's, you know, NBC or NASCAR sponsors, Bank of America and others, I think we're all in it together to make, you know, great competition happen and see how the fans happy. Well, yeah, you obviously, you know, wouldn't make a change unless you thought that good could

come out of it, right? Dale, I can't talk from the perspective of running the roval or running, you know, the oval, roval and oval. I know that if he were in the seat, he definitely would have a lot of comments about, but have you had driver feedback, you know, as it relates to? The best driver feedback I had was from Dale. He said, if you start listening to me, you'd make this decision two years ago. So, yeah, I did laugh about that too.

That's funny. Well, most of the time, sometimes the only feedback that matters is Dale, right? So what's the process like for your team, you know, to, not the physical process, because I would imagine that it's going to be a little lighter that you don't have to configure the road course, right? So it's going to be lighter. But what's the whole process like? Does it change things for you as it relates to, you know, sponsorship? The amount of people, I imagine there's more camping spots available since you can use everything and things like that. Probably the biggest thing is camping. I think, you know, that's going to be a big thing for fans to be able to camp again on that turn one and two side of the Oval.

So that's really the biggest thing. And of course, the work that goes into converting Charlotte Motor Speedway from Oval. to Roval is tremendous. So our operations team just got, you know, a huge relief. Yeah. So it'll be kind of neat. And I think, you know, the racing in May for the 600 has been fantastic. Bringing that to the fall will be, you know, I think fantastic again. And it'll be neat to see how the teams react to that, you know, from the spring to the fall.

And, you know, certainly should be exciting. Super cool. It is going to be exciting. I do think with the points system the way it is, you know, road courses present a challenge for a lot of the drivers, right? And lots can happen. There's a lot of beating and banging and moving around. So that strategy for teams and drivers should look a lot different, you know. Yeah, you know, I think you mentioned as a team owner kind of the factors that you all think about and should go in from season to season. From my perspective, as a promoter and as a fan of NASCAR, throwing a wrench in the system sometimes actually produces some excitement. So if this, you know, creates a little bit more excitement, creates a challenge that needs to be solved for

some of the teams, I think that generally works out pretty good for the fans and it makes some excitement happened for the teams. And it should be pretty interesting to see. Yeah, very exciting. All right. What about, you know, what can we expect in terms of the stability of the oval versus the roval? Is that something you're going to look at year to year?

You know, what? You know, I think after reviving North Wilkesboro Speedway, there's nothing that's not doable. I thought you'd never get that speedway to actually operate again. So we've got a wonderful racetrack in the classic Oval at Charlotte Motor Speedway. We've got a fantastic world-class road course with the Roval.

And we'll bring that back at different times. But for now, we'll be running the Oval and we'll see what happens. Well, you know, the cool thing is, I think that the adaptability is great, right? Because you can react to what's going on in the market, what fans are asking for, you know, what the entire lineup of the series looks like,

track to track, and you prove that already with the roble. So, yeah, well, it is. Here we go. That's right. I love driving the roval, you know, from a sports car perspective. It's super fun to drive, and we've got a lot of customers that like to drive it.

So outside of NASCAR week, we'll still have plenty of opportunities for our different driving experiences and OEM customers to come out and enjoy the roval. Very cool. You know, we did the Del Junior ride-alongs for a lot of years at the Speedway until the Roval came. And then that was, you know, that presented a bit of a challenge. Not that people wouldn't have liked the Roval, but as you know, what Dell Jr.'s

Temperature was on Roadcourses. And so we've pivoted. We've done it at North Walesboro. and so maybe we can get back to Charlotte. It was a fun weekend to provide for fans that did the ride-alongs with the Hall of Fame being here. We could just have a weekend of all things taking in the races at the Speedway and whatnot.

All right. Snowmageddon. Let's talk about the snow for a second and the amount of time these kids are out of school. I noticed that it's been very... It's been stressful. It's almost giving me like COVID vibes in the house. You know, like we're on lockdown.

I can't go anywhere. I love it. I know you love it. You got your chef, your toys and your hobbies and all the things, and you don't have anybody bothering you. It's like your favorite thing. But I need people. Like I need energy from other people. Adult energy.

I'm stuck in the house with, you know, everybody needing things from me is just, oh, it's a lot. I'm not the only one that feels that way. Some of the other moms that have literally their kids have not gone back to school yet are about to lose it. Like truly lose their minds. Really? Yes. Because doing the school and all the things virtually when you don't know how to do Common Core math or like all the things that the kids have to do, it's a lot. It's a lot on your mind.

You don't even know what I'm talking about, do you? I don't. I mean, I'm sorry. I don't. I'm thinking, man, the kids are home. We get the hug on them all day. Yeah. I mean, that part is good.

And I like the snuggles. Yeah. And not having a pack lunches. Like there are a couple little things that are great. I know they're going to go back. know they're going to go back and I know that you know things are going to go back to normal and it is never going to snow like this again ever I mean you know most likely this is the most snow that I remember ever getting in the you know 40 years I can really recall yeah um I mean you know we would have

you know we would have two or three snows in the winter that were two to three maybe four inches at the most back in the 80s and then it kind of trailed off to maybe one snow a year or a little, a little dusting. That was crazy. It wasn't expected to have the weather. It was awesome. It was very magical and the girls playing in it was a lot of fun, getting them dressed. I didn't even mind that part, just taking the clothes on and off, getting the boots, like we got the order down.

I think the way you feel is how I feel about the dog. because Gus has been Gus has been next level annoying because he so and I'm sorry this is bothering

some of you animal dog lovers I'm a dog I'm a dog lover but I don't love the way he's been acting we he too feels trapped

he's like I want to go outside I want to drink out of the fountain that's not frozen over that's his what he thinks that's his water bowl truly so he goes outside

and he's like this is the experience with Gus. All right. So usually Gus is happy, calm, laying around, napping all day. And he gets excited when he wants to go outside. And he hops around the floor.

And that's, that's the cue. I want to go out. And he's thrilled. You know, go over the door, open it up, goes outside. And he's going to come back to the door

in about 10 or 15 minutes. And he'll bark. He might lay down on a porch for a while and chill and look out. And he'll start barking. He'll just, you'll just hear him. burp, burp, and that's come get me, let me back in.

No problem. He's going to want to go do this again, maybe an hour or two later. And that's sort of a pattern, and that's what we've done for a long time. But during the snow, so we got the ice first, right? We had that ice storm. Gus is getting old and he's got arthritis in his hips and he's got a bunch of fatty gross and all this stuff. And he's just, he has a harder time. He jumps up on the couch.

It's not as easy it used to be. Sometimes he misses. Sometimes he's straight. When he lays around for a while and he gets up, it's a while for he can get moving. So he kind of, you know, if he lays down, like all of us at our age, if he lays down when you get up, you're sore, you know, from sitting in the same spot for five minutes.

And so, but so we get the ice storm. He goes outside and his feet busts through the ice. he gets 15 yards from the house and his feet busts through the ice and he's like I'm stuck yeah hey he goes catatonic and just starts barking and won't move yeah he won't move he's 15 feet from the door and his feet have just fell through the two inches of ice and he's like come get me I'm stuck and that's literally it and and so Dale's like I think something's wrong with the dog because he's walking around out there like he's basically sliding but he's hunched over like He won't stand up straight all the way?

He walks so funny on the ice. I think that's his arthritis or maybe he thinks he's going to the bathroom and he's not. I don't know. What did he get into? What did you feed him? We're like going through the mountain of things other than it's just ice. If we don't take him out before bed time, he gets us up at four, two, one, three in the morning. He gets us up and Amy might take him down some, but most of time I'm taking him down.

And I go down there, let him out. I'm in my damn underwear. You know, and I let him out. We didn't need that. Huh? I'm sorry? We didn't need that. It's hard to kiss what you're saying.

I'm just letting you know that I'm not ready to walk outside. He's not prepared for what it was about to ensue. He goes out in the yard, falls through the ice, and he's like, all right, come get me. And I'm like, all right, shit. So I go put on pants, put on a jacket, go outside, and I go to him. And as soon as I go to him, he starts growling at me. like I'm out helping you you don't want help what's the damn deal you're going to growl at me

I'm out here's damn 15 degrees outside I'm here to carry your ass you're 80 pound ass inside and you're growling and so and I'll take him back inside so that's what happens in the middle of the night what happens during the day is he wants to go outside you take him outside he stands on the porch he goes it's cold let me back in so he he starts barking at the door, you let him back in, five minutes goes by, and he is completely forgotten about that, and he wants to go back outside. He's restless as well. And he goes back outside, and he's like, holy shit, it's cold out here. Let me back in. And he wants back in, and then five minutes later, he's forgotten about that. And it's like this constant, like, he's,

he's like, let me out, let me out. And you're like, we just let you just let you out. Like, what are you doing? You're going out there? You're using the bathroom at all? I think he wants you to come out with him. So he's, when it's warmer, he and I go out for a walk. Well, we haven't been doing that. And so he's, like, getting all excited because he wants you to come outside with him. When he, when you close the door and he's like, oh, damn, I don't want to be out here by myself. I don't entertain that idea because I'm never been the one to walk in. Ever going to be, I'm taking the dog for a walk. I didn't, I don't, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don't live in the city. I'm not walking my dog down the road to get his leg stretched out.

If his ass needs to go outside, he can take his own ass for a walk. We got 300 acres. Be my guest. Wear yourself out. But it's like, oh, we got to take him for a lap so his anxiety calms down. That's, I like, I have a hard time with that. You are that. You are just like that.

I don't need you to take me for a walk around the property. No, but you need me to lay on the couch with you so you can recharge, as you say. What's the damn difference? I don't know. He's used to that. We walk together. We get the energy out. He has not been able to do that.

That's why he's bothering you. But also, he doesn't growl at me. Like, if I go outside with the dog or if I go way on him on the couch, he didn't growl at me, not ever. He only does that to Dale. I don't know what that is. They have like this weird relationship.

We're dudes. Maybe you could have, like, cleared a path for him where like he gets some grass to, you know. We did that. Yeah. So when the ice storm was coming, preemptively, I laid out. all of the felt blankets and different blankets like I have in the dog room, down the stairs, across the path, into the grass. So, like, he had his own little section that was not going to get iced.

And he would walk over the ice to the, he was always going towards that fountain. But anyway, he's just spoiled. He's got all those things. He just wants attention. I haven't had to go outside to pick him up and bring him back in since the ice. It's been a week. We had seven and a half inches of snow. I'm like, all right, we're over the ice shit.

The other, two nights ago, he's like, I got to go downstairs. It's one o'clock in the morning. We get down. I like how you interpret how he's speaking. If he could speak to you. He's like, oh, he gets up. His bed is in the floor at the end of our bed. And he gets up and he paces up my side, up any side.

He's just waiting to see who's going to get at first. And he pants really loudly. And he drags his feet. So he intentionally. like making as much noise as he can to get one of us to get up and let his ass go down and say he will not go down a set of stairs he falls if he goes down the stairs you can't see very good his legs don't work so we got to go down an elevator so i get up i take him into the elevator we go down and he doesn't go to the front door which is where he should go he wants

to go out back out back's the hill that he's getting stuck on but we have you know we haven't happened in a couple days and his ass goes out there and i watch him and he walks around. He takes his poop. He takes his pee. And then he just he locks up. He goes, come give me. He's playing you. He's down this hill and I've seen

like. He's like, I know you're going to be cold and I know you don't have any clothes on. He's moving his front legs. He's like, I can't get out of the hill. He's asserting his dominance over you, Dale. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. He's acting like he needs a wheelchair. He's like, you ain't the boss of me. I'm the boss of me. He's like, help, help. Come give me. I'm going to freeze.

Yeah. You're You're his . That's not right. But that's not how it is. So I have to get my pants on and go out there and pick him up. Don't pick me up. And I'm like, this sucks. You wanted this.

I don't. I did not want this. This is not the part. I don't know that this is experience for every dog owner. Well, when they get older, you have all kinds of things you didn't experience. You didn't have that with Rocket. Look, I don't want to put him down. I'm not saying let's get rid of me.

I didn't hear you say that. I'm not accusing you. I just want to get it off my chest. I'm, I believe my, you're, so maybe that's me relating to you, right?

And you're, you're, you know, feeling like you got island fever. You're, you know, claustrophobic and need to get out of the house. Yeah.

Yeah. Everybody's Dellenhart Jr. And welcome to the R.B. Studio for the new season of the Dale Jr. download. We have a pretty incredible guest coming in here. excited about this. It's one of my favorite people that's in the industry today. Danny Lawrence,

let's bring him into the room. Again, like in Happy Hour, Happy Hour is the last practice, your last chance to make sure everything's right. We ran 20 minutes of an hour and stopped. And I'm like, you know, that's how Dad did it. This is the out. Y'all always were covering y'all's car up early. You know, if y'all, y'all were always messing with the competition, putting the cover on the car 30 minutes before the end of practice. And I'm like, man, this is neat. It was like, it was. like I was kind of seeing it through the lens of what dad would experience with y'all and we went out and ran the race and it was effortless the car was he knew what he wanted just like you did well speaking of car covers 87 we go to Daytona and that's back when baitie was was the crew chief

and they back then i'm not we did we never cheated and i want to tell you the andy's petri's story right after this but so but we pushed it everything to the end of the rules. Back then they had, you know, a long template and a side template and this and that. So at Daytona, you needed a totally different car and you needed at Talladega. Really? You needed the racetrack was rough. It would get hot, this and that.

So you needed, you needed a car to be able to handle for the long. So the back end of our car was four inches longer. The spoiler and all, the back deckley and all that stuff was longer. So, and our car looked different. And they came over the speaker and they said, at 12 noon, anybody wants to see the templates put on the three car. What? Because we were the champion, so we had the first stall.

They said that over there. All these people came over and put all the templates on the car. Everything fit perfect. So we're covering a car up at the end of the day, and the car cover won't fit because the car cover is made off of a regular car. We couldn't get it over the back. It was like, like, Oh, well, this is one thing that we missed on it, but it was fine.

It was, it was, it was good. But we weren't the only ones. There were, there was some of those cars look alike. I know that like Darrell knows guys. You can go, there's a, there's a Waltrip car in the museum at Talladega, and it's like four inches narrow. Yeah. The junior Johnson bud car.

You go in there and you can look at it and just tail. It's like super narrow. And so, yeah, they were playing some games before, because of, At that point, I think, around 85, 86, you didn't have, you had the long tip of that was it. Yeah. You know, they weren't measuring the width. But, you know, the, you were going to tell another story. So, Andy Petrie.

The Andy Petrie thing. So Andy Petrie shows up at RCR. He's going to be the crew chief. He comes in and he's been there for about a week and he says, okay, now show me all stuff. What are you talking about? all your tricks, your magic, your, you're, all the things, all the cheating stuff that y'all did. So we'll, Lynn grabs a hold of them, carries them over there, set up plate right in the middle of the room. And he goes, see that seat right there?

Huh? He goes, yeah. That's where all our magic is. The guy sits in that seat. We don't have no nitrous. We don't have no movable this. We don't have no. We weren't doing any of that stuff.

Yeah. It was all, it was all basics. And that was the truth. And Andy was like, you don't have no trick spoilers or no trick cows or no way to move the fenders or take lead out. I'm like, no, we don't have none of that. You don't have any, you know, five-speed transmissions or, or do what? No, we don't have, we don't have any of that. You don't have any aluminum panels or any way to cause a caution or, no, we don't have any.

He goes, oh, my gosh. Yeah. And he couldn't believe. it. He could not believe it. Yeah. But so, um, Andy's thing was, we're going to have some of that stuff. And then Richard was like, Andy, you embarrass us and it's on you. So, so I don't know if Andy had all that stuff, all the other places he ran and, you know, this and that, but, but. He brought that damn spoiler from the skull car. Yes. I have it. Yes. With the wires and the retract where the spoiler laid down.

He said they used it in qualifying, and they're scared to do it in the race. I imagine you could see it if you were behind him. But I kind of always wondered, we talk about that all the time on here with folks about ingenuity and cheating and all that stuff. And I got this big old lead radio right here that Gary Nelson. He brought that over.

That's from like 1978. Got you. DiGuard, Darwalter. I think it's tungsten. It's not lead. But, you know, I was telling, I was in, I was in Nashville yesterday speaking at the cattlemen and beef association and telling them about the Darylchop story where they had the lead shot in the frame rail. And it come out to jack stop. And every time NASCAR would go look for it, they couldn't see the hole because the jack was jacking in the car up on the jackstop.

but so y'all never y'all never I mean how do you believe how do you get people like I this is my question to you is I believe you all right I believe you when you tell me that you wouldn't bull-h-me but

in a in a garage that is that is like like cheating or bending the rules or whatever is rampant I mean it was like a badge of honor everyone in the garage like felt like

like they had one over the next guy. You know, they don't know about what I'm doing here. And every guy in the garage. You'd look in the eyes of all of those crew chiefs back in the 80s. And all of them had something they were hiding. And it's hard for me to believe that you guys were 100% up and up. So there's a picture floating around to your dad with his foot underneath the front of the car. That's nothing.

That is. And people are like, that's how you want all those. I like it. I like he would, there's a, that picture, I see it every now and then, probably every six months on social media. And that picture makes me think, you know, I kind of do want people to think dad was smarter than the technical inspectors. I kind of like, because he was, you know, he thought he was smarter than everybody

else. And that's, that's a image of him in his mind. But what he's truly doing in that picture, and y'all aren't weighing the car. I mean, that would be, you know, lifting the car with his foot would go against the minimum weight. You know, one of the things that dad did that a lot of people don't realize is he walked around

like back in the 80s and the 90s the front valence height on the car was critical to speed and how competitive your car was going to be. And he would walk around

and he wanted to, if he could, take a tape measure to every car out there on the grid or in the garage, right? But instead of doing that, he'd walk over and slide his foot under there and see what shoe laced, because he had them racing shoes on that laced all the way up to ankle. And he'd see what shoe lace that valence hit. And he would then walk off and go, well, that went up to the seventh shoe lace.

That's a little higher than the last one. That's exactly what he would do. That's what he's doing. And that's what he's kind of doing in that picture is like measuring the valence with his foot. And that was kind of his way of kind of seeing if he was, where he needed to be and where the competition was at. You're exactly, exactly right.

He knew a lot about those cars. And when you and Kelly and Kerry and all were going to start driving, he came in a truck one day and he said, I'm going to make them work on those cars or they're not driving. I want them to be able to realize what it takes, what you guys go through and what it takes to race. And I know he made you, I know he made you work on the cars there so that,

so you could appreciate what it is. It doesn't just happen. Yeah. And how easy you can tear one up. You know, weeks and weeks and weeks of work, and you can tear one up in just a minute. Oh, yeah. He was, when you were winning all those races,

he was so proud of you. He'd come back in, you know, he'd beat like. Happy hour was right after our races in the Bush Series. And I didn't get to see him. He might pop into Victory Lane. We win over, right, 98 or something, I think. he pops into Victor Lane. He's got a suit on.

Yeah. Right? Because he's getting ready getting his car. And he's there for like a minute. Yeah. Hug, high five, slap on the forehead, whatever, right? That's about what you're going to get.

Then he's gone. I'm like, damn, I wish he was hanging around. You know, we're going to take all these pictures. And I want to hear, I want to, in five or ten minutes, if he had hung out, I might actually get to hear what he's thinking, right? Yeah. But he'd be gone, going, jump in his car. Because he had to be first out or, you know, didn't want to, you know,

It was a competition. He was back in his mode. Yes, 100%. 100%. And it's great to have Danny Lawrence in the RB studio to kick off the season. Hopefully, all enjoyed getting to know Danny and what he's all about. Thank y'all.