The Dale Jr. Download - The Only Time Dale Can Recall His Dad Getting in a Fight
Episode Date: September 23, 2026The studio was lively this week for a special Wednesday show – an extended edition of Ask Jr with Dale and TJ.The fans brought all of their best questions from social media and the live chat, coveri...ng topics like the biggest fights in NASCAR, the supposed brawl in the NASCAR Hauler between Kurt Busch and Tony Stewart, Dale’s terrifying crash at California 2002, and many more.Dale and TJ also had some fun reminiscing on the days where our wallets had photo albums, wallets had chains and a lot of guys carried a comb in their pocket.. Do we need to go back to those days? They also discuss Ty Gibbs throwing his water bottle into the Blaney/Hocevar scuffle, if Dale Sr has ever fought any drivers during his career, and the $400 phone bill that Dale Jr racked up while living with his brother Kerry.This Wednesday show also rounds out with Dirty Mo Dough and a special guest George Wrighster III, the host of Dirty Mo Media’s new podcast Unafraid Show. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Might help us out.
Yeah.
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We just got done talking to Joey Lugano.
We had been debating.
Good debates.
Around and around in circles about Hosevar and all that stuff with Blaney.
We were just asking him about the Ty Gibbs and Hosevar.
What was your guys' reactions to kind of Ty messing around with Carson there?
I mean, it looked just like hard racing to me.
I really didn't.
I mean, it looked like freaking insane, badass racing that I was thankful that we were getting.
It was fun.
It was, yeah.
I mean, it was thrilling.
And I'll tell you, every time you run a race like that, you know, the guys that didn't win,
they're all going to run that back a million times in their heads.
Like, man, what I, and you'll keep doing that.
Even though there's nothing you can do to go back and change it, you'll run.
I run races from 15 years ago back in my mind about, man, I should have did this.
I should have done that.
So it kind of drives you crazy.
But, all right, I finally got all my stuff up.
But I thought it was a great race.
Did the action at the end save the day or save the race?
I know that the poll was something in the 70s for the good race poll.
So I know a lot of people thought the race really wasn't that exciting until we got to the end.
But to me it was pretty entertaining.
I enjoyed it.
Yeah, I did too.
You did not.
You said you didn't enjoy it.
The end?
No, the whole thing.
Oh, the whole race sucked.
I thought the race didn't suck.
Joey Lugano stayed out, one stage one, didn't change.
Brian Blaney stayed out stage two, one stage two.
Yeah. Where's the tire fall off?
Well, come on, you would have liked a little fall off.
Don't lie.
I love, in the perfect world, you want tire fall off at every race you run.
But you're not always going to get that, but that doesn't always mean the race is ruined.
Elliot Sadler won in 2001 on 170 lap tires.
He didn't pit with 170 laps to go.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
There were multiple cautions after that.
multiple people coming down pit road.
I think the guys that finished behind him
had 100 or 80 lap better tires.
In 2001.
And so
it's concrete, dude.
And so it's really funky.
It wears the crap out of the tires when it's cold
because it won't accept the rubber.
When it's hot, it accepts the rubber
and it starts taking rubber down
and that cures wear, right?
So that improves wear.
If it's really cool,
you're going to get these weird races where the tire just shreds,
and it doesn't lay any rubber down,
so the wear doesn't improve the entire day.
Apparently, that's a temperature thing.
I just said that.
Well, like, I don't know exactly, I don't know exactly what's going to.
It's concrete.
Yeah.
So if, you know, an asphalt racetrack doesn't really do this.
And I don't have cold races at Dover before,
and I don't know if I've seen it.
I don't think you've had that cold of a race at Dover.
Like mid-60s?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I really don't know.
Yeah.
But the, I think that, and I, you know, I would pave it.
I would pull the damn concrete up and I'd pave the shit out of this thing.
I'd take the progressive banking out of it and I'd pave it and damn, we'd see some racing.
But they'll never do that.
So we got what we got.
I liked Bristol.
I enjoyed it.
I was there for the O'Reilly race.
I thought it was entertaining.
and the cup race I watched on TV at home,
and I thought it was good as well.
Bristol was really a fuel mileage race, honestly.
Did you know that we had a green flag pit stop in 2004 when I won there?
I lapped all the way up to sixth, and we pitted under green.
That's nerve-wracking because you lose two laps.
Terrifying.
It is.
That's a very bad time.
Very nerve-wracking time.
Riley Herps' caution ruined some days.
Yes.
So, all right.
Anyways, we're doing, we're doing Asch Jr. at 10.30, just like we told you all.
And this is going to be a really long one.
So usually we're having to get off of our YouTube at around 20 minutes or so into the Asr Jr.,
but we're going to stick around.
I don't know if you guys got some time.
One of the things that, obviously, with everything that happened with the fight this weekend,
Let's dive into most memorable NASCAR fights.
If you got one in the chat,
the more random, the better, I think,
because one of mine was Ambrose and Mears at Richmond.
That was a good one.
We don't have very good video of that,
but the video that you do have,
Ambrose connected, popped mirrors in the nose.
I've seen Casey Mears in the last couple of years,
and he jokes about how he got dotted.
Yep.
Um, much like Blaney, uh, he, he takes ownership of getting his ass whooped on that day.
Yeah, I didn't think the first punch connected when I was watching, but Blaney says it did.
Uh, but the most memorable, the most important, um, is the 79 Daytona 500.
Absolutely.
You know, I won't go through everything, but we had 16 million or something crazy number of people watching us.
That's crazy.
most of those people had never seen a NASCAR race before.
That was actually the first flag-to-flag coverage
outside of a race, I think, that ran at Greenville Pickens in 1971.
And so, yeah, the world will see in our sport literally for the first time ever.
And here we are fighting at the end of the race after crashing all the way down the back straight away.
and the call from that, right, with Ken Squire,
and there's a fight.
I mean, it's just, it feels so, so perfect.
Yeah, perfect, authentic.
You know, and you got Richard Petty winning the race,
and, you know, one of the greatest race car drivers of all time,
AJ Foight right there in the, you know, in the mix late.
That's crazy.
All them names in that right there.
Yeah.
It was a compelling race because they had had,
And, you know, the rain delayed the race.
They ran under caution for a while.
Buddy Baker, who was dominant all weekend and the Grey Ghost,
fouled his plugs and ruined his motor during the pace laps in his car never ran correctly.
He was so heartbroken.
And David Pearson wrecks out after having to start toward the back of the field.
David Pearson gets swept up in this crash off a turn four with a bunch of guys in the back half of the field.
So the Wood brothers are out.
There's not going to be a, you know, Richard Petty, David Pearson battle, historic battle to the
finished like we were expecting.
And then, you know, you're also seeing my dad run one of his very first races on, you know,
in front of a national audience of any kind.
And they're, I don't even think the broadcasters knew how to, you know, knew that, you know,
he was going to, he was going to be up in there duking it out.
So that was pretty cool.
Because it's funny to hear him talk about Dale Earnhardt as this.
known, you know?
Yeah.
Like, this guy from Canapolis.
They only knew.
Earnhardt character.
They only knew what was coming.
Who is this guy?
Yeah.
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So,
what were you asking?
If fighting was common, like at tracks back then.
Like, did it happen and you just didn't hear about it?
No.
So this is like the first.
Well, there were some fights that happened.
So, let's see.
Mike Dillon got popped at Bristol.
I can't remember who did that.
It might have been Michael Waltrip.
Ricky Rudd was in a Bristol fight.
Somebody popped him.
Maybe it was a crew chief or a crew member hit him.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
If you go on YouTube.
you can find them pretty quickly.
John West Talley and Spencer Gallagher.
I spent some time with Spencer Gallagher
while I was racing for GMS over at Florence.
Spencer's doing really well.
Yeah, Kyle Busch, Ron Horner Day.
They didn't get out and fight.
Obviously, Texas with Brackislauski.
Texas was a big brawl.
That was probably the biggest maybe brawl.
Jeff Gordon?
Yeah.
Yep.
There was, um, I mean, did you say, you said Kurt and Jimmy at Bristol?
No.
Kurt and Jimmy, wasn't at Bristol when they parked in the infield there?
Didn't Kurt?
Or Jimmy Punch Kurt at Bristol?
Jimmy?
Oh, you're talking about Michigan.
Jimmy Spencer.
I thought it was Brisbane.
You got to tell, you got to use last names, brother.
Jimmy Spencer, Kurt Busch.
That was at Michigan.
Oh, that's from a reason I thought of it.
They started at Bristol.
Like the whole thing started at Bristol back when Jimmy was running the 41 target car.
Jimmy was leading the race.
I think Kurt pushed him out of the way late to get the win.
Jimmy didn't have many chances where he was with a shot to win a race.
And then a whole year later, they're at Richmond.
And Kurt says over the radio, man, I swerved at him to try to knock his fender off
because you could bump a guy.
And if you bent the right front fender, he hurt the balance of the car.
He made the car tight.
And he's like, man, I tried to get his right front fender.
got mine instead.
And so he's out there
messing around with Spencer.
Well, Spencer bops him in the nose
in the garage.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I see John Hunter running down the front stretch at the road course
was kind of, I mean, that kind of stands out.
Wasn't really a big fight, but there's a good tackle.
Yep.
Cole Custer.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, Cole just took off.
Out of nowhere.
Yeah.
Somebody said, hold my watch.
Yep.
Yes, we talked about that.
Which is funny as Blaney said, hold my phone.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's one I wish there was video of.
Yeah.
Was Kyle and Richard.
Richard.
Yeah.
To hold my watch.
What was the fight that Robin Pemberton talked about was in the hauler?
Oh, that was Kurt Busch and Tony Stewart.
Okay, yeah.
So we'd always wondered, we didn't know for sure whether, you know, Tony
had punched Kurt in the holler and apparently that's true.
So,
Boyer punched Newman a ton.
I remember that.
Helminton.
Wasn't his helmet on though?
Yeah.
Michael Walter punch Lake Speed on pit road,
helmet on in Michigan.
Somebody said Tony Stewart and Casey Kane Cruz fighting each other.
Yeah.
That was at Chicago.
Yeah.
Yep.
That I don't think was ever in a fight.
I don't think I've ever...
I don't.
Only time I know dad threw hands
was on the dude at the farm that shot his deer.
But he never followed the racetrack that I know.
Pearson and Tim Richmond,
so apparently Richmond got popped in the nose by Pearson.
I think Tim was unaware of who Mr. Pearson was.
And Tim caught him an old man.
Oh.
And Pearson popped in the nose.
Yeah, Pearson's not to be missed with.
I feel like Pops.
Ty Gibbs and Sam Merritt, Martinsville.
Speaking of Sam, Mary, some news.
Yeah, Junior Motorsports is announcing today.
Yeah, they punched Sam in the face.
Sam's coming back to Junior Motorsports.
I'm really excited about that.
We've been talking about this for a while.
Sam, one races with us, left.
I think he's a better driver now than he was then.
I think he's more grown up.
I think we're a better team.
And so I'm excited to get him back in the building and see what we can do.
We worked with Sam Mayer all the way back to the late model days and had a lot of fun.
So he's been kind of part of the family ever since.
I'm curious to see how he races the rest of the year because he was not happy after Friday night.
I've heard him say those things before.
We'll see.
I am looking forward, though, to see how much better he runs in our cars having the time away.
Because, yeah, I think he, I think, you know, he was in a, he's in a good place now.
He's with a good team.
But I think that there were things about our program that he might have took for granted that I'm thinking that now he's, like, thankful or looking forward to get back to.
He's older, more mature.
It'll be interesting to see how that goes.
Yeah.
So that's going to be good.
Do you feel like, I feel like Pops.
It was good for like usually a fight a year.
Tony Sr.
Yeah.
Tony Sr.
Yeah.
His nickname was,
is rosy because his face turns red when he gets mad.
It's pretty easy to tell when Tony Sr.'s angry.
Somebody said Nelson P.K.'s failed kick.
I miss that.
I believe it was in the truck series.
Yeah, that's the one we talked about on yesterday.
That was the, yeah.
Who went after Max Pappas in the garage?
at a truck race one time.
That was somewhere.
It was a non-companion race.
And I feel like I remember.
It was something.
Then somebody slapped Max?
Yeah.
A woman.
Oh, yeah, Max got slapped.
Yeah.
Like, oh.
Yeah.
You remember Biffle and...
Harvick, Ruff.
No, Boris.
Oh, Boris was mad.
Yes.
I've never, didn't know Boris could get mad.
Yeah.
He got mad.
Yeah.
Boris is pretty tame dude
AJ Foyt
A couple of people
Oh Carl Edwards
Like fake punch at Matt
That was an interesting one
That was yeah
Yep
Somebody in here
I'm trying to find it
Was asking about
Ty Gibbs in the water bottle
What did you think about that
I thought it was funny
I hate it hit that guy's phone
Because he was getting some good votes
In my minority
I think he should get a fine
What
You're just saying that
It hit a phone
Why would he get a fine?
He's throwing a full
like what are we doing?
They throw full water bottles on the racetrack.
Big difference.
Surely it wasn't like unsealed, completely full.
I think it had a lot of water in it.
I have a problem.
Like if you have an issue with Josefurt, go take it up with them.
You were throwing a waterball.
You got Priest and Barry like jabbing at like.
Yeah.
I think.
Priest looked mad.
I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
I don't think there should be a fine.
Jeez, Travis.
You threw your water bottle, Abby.
I'm not the only person here.
Someone in the chats, I was like...
Travis, go on mute. What an idiot.
Is somebody say that?
Yes.
Another question.
Did you see Bon Jovi's son wearing a Junior Marysports t-shirt?
It's an old picture.
That's old one?
Yes, I saw it.
But it was from years ago.
Oh.
I think that picture was from three or four years ago.
Okay.
So I don't know where you got it.
Travis, our chat's not moving.
here just so you know like it's it's not updated yeah there goes um tie tye gives is scared of his own
shadow i don't know i mean i think i'll say this man i think some guys like blaney was like eff it i'm
going in and i'm doing this where other guys are like all right if i do this i'm going to get asked
about it i'm going to be it's going to be all i see on social media all week long all of the guys
that are in the chase are required to go into a media scrum every single weekend.
So they're setting with the media for 10 minutes answering every single question that they get asked.
And so you kind of have to ask yourself, is it worth it?
Yeah, for sure.
And for a lot of guys, they're just like, man, it's just they f*** it.
It's not that they're scared.
It's not that they don't want to go over there and punch the guy.
It's just that they're like, yeah, all the shit comes with it.
It's just not.
I think about that.
I think that to myself before I tweet.
Is it worth it?
Yeah.
Just make sure.
I do too.
Yeah.
Did you think about when you retweeted that Zane signing his new deal?
Was that?
Y'all didn't know about that?
Broke some news.
Oh my gosh.
That was awesome.
Yeah.
Nasker's newest reporter over here.
I think I did good on Saturday.
You did?
Yeah.
You handled yourself later?
Did you ever get in any late model fights?
My gosh.
I can't remember ever been in a fight.
No Myrtle beach throwdowns or anything?
No.
I mean, arguing.
Yeah.
Arguing, but no.
I didn't, I only wrecked a guy.
I only wrecked like,
I could count on both hands in my entire career,
the amount of people I've wrecked.
I mean, I probably could count on one hand,
like the amount of people I've wrecked on purpose.
Yeah, that number should be really low, I hope, but yeah.
Well, I mean, for a lot of people, some people, it's really high.
Yeah, some people are already two hands, yeah.
At the short tracks, a lot of guys get wrecked on purpose.
They do, yes.
But we had Tim Dugger as a guest on my show.
A fan sent in a question about favorite top eight.
Top eight.
Top eight.
Tim Dugger songs.
He's got a new one called Won't You Like I Do?
That's probably my favorite right now.
Hertz Donut is an old one, it's 10 years old.
Single again is another song that's 10 years old.
Circles.
Circles is a song that he didn't want to cut.
He sent me the demo, and I said,
man, it's a good song.
He goes, man, it's stupid.
I actually thought it was okay.
He was like, I'm not going to put that out into the world.
That's hokey and stupid.
And I'm like, it sounds good, do it.
So he did it.
Square, man.
Yeah.
Heart of a small town, homeway from home,
you're going to love me and Colbert Knight.
Those are my eight favorite Tim Dugger songs.
By bar.
That's not in my top eight.
But it's a good song.
Circles is goaded.
See, Tim totally was like, check this out.
You won't believe that I actually cut this demo.
And I'm like, man, that's actually pretty good.
And he's like, they ain't no way I'm going to release it or master it.
But I talked him into it.
Where did I get my Junior Merger Sports phone case?
So I bought.
So I like the phone.
case where you can put your license in there.
So I got it with me, you know, it just goes right in there.
You know, many people have those.
They slide open or whatever in your phone, your wallet,
and your credit card or whatever can go in there.
And so I've been buying this same case.
Anytime I get a new phone or the case, you know,
maybe falls apart.
Yeah, you start liking a case.
Yeah.
But I get the same case and it's called Wingmate by Scooch.
and apparently it's this really kind of mom and pop's family ran operation and they saw my order
and made me this case and sent it in my order and they were like thanks for yeah they were like
thanks for buying and I never I didn't thank them I didn't write them a letter so I'm telling you now thank you
scooch yeah so it was pretty nice this is like a year old we get a lot of cool stuff I'm always worried though
if you with that the case is like if I lose one thing I lose everything
that is true but my thought about that is if I've got a phone and a wallet now I've got
two things that I can lose except for when you're on vacation right and you dump it out on the
road did you lose everything there remember when you lost it he brings him a good point I mean you
lost it was your was your license in there when you lost it yes oh so I didn't even think about
but I recovered it I know thankfully yeah thankful so the case did his job I feel like
Everybody's heard this story, but just in case you haven't.
I was in, I was on vacation out of the country.
I was on a Moki, which is like a little golf cart, and I'm in my swim trunks, and I'm driving,
and the Moki, and my seat is like level with the side of the car, and so my phone slid out of my pocket right into the street.
You're just the way you sit in those cars, it just slipped right out.
and we got back to the house
and I'm like, man, I can't find my phone.
I must have left it at the restaurant.
You know, mile and a half, two miles down the road to the restaurant.
I've got a watch that will connect to my phone when I'm near.
And it ain't connected to it.
I'm like, man, it must not be here.
So we walk all around everywhere we were.
Couldn't find it.
Get back to the house.
All right.
We get a phone call from my sister.
I've got a text that Dale's been in an accident.
Are you all okay?
Joey Meyer.
So my phone sent an emergency text out to my wife and my sister
that I had been in a collision.
And it told us where the collision was.
So it's up the street about a half a mile.
So we drove up the street.
There's my phone laying in the street going screaming,
you know, going, making all kinds of noise.
You're so lucky.
I know.
You're so lucky.
Someone said, do you remember wallets on chains?
Did you ever have one of those?
No.
No, he definitely wore one of them.
You had one?
You had one?
No, I never did.
Elijah?
You did.
No.
No.
It's on a chain.
I remember the Velcro wallets.
James probably had one.
He's not here.
Did you, did you have the, did any of y'all,
or any of y'all old enough?
to remember having the wallet that had like the photo folder in it where you could put all kinds of class pictures and shit.
Was that like a trifold wallet?
Like we all needed to carry around a photo album.
Yeah.
You did.
Check out my mom.
It's my cousin.
You literally had photos in there.
Just in case I need to look at my family.
That's exactly.
I mean, you did.
We did.
I know.
I mean, normally it was like you the Velco, you open it up.
Oh, man.
Velcro wallets.
I need to go back to carrying around the photo albums.
That, you pulled, you pulled your Velcro wallet out of your pocket with your comb,
the comb you normally kept in there.
I didn't keep a comb in my pocket.
No comb.
I didn't either, but a lot of people did.
Oh my God, DJ.
No, my dad did.
Which means you did.
No, I never did.
I barely owned a brush.
Someone wants a no deal.
Have you ever eat liver mush with syrup?
Oh.
No.
Serp is good with everything.
Yes, it is.
By the way, the maple cookies that our Canadian friends sent with the ketchup.
The ketchup Cheetos are amazing.
Ketchup flavored Cheetos.
It is amazing.
The maple cookies were.
No, the best one was the Nashville hot chicken chips.
Yeah, did you like them?
It might be my favorite chip ever.
Really?
Like I might take a road trip to Canada just to get them.
Who had to switchblade comb?
I never did, but I remember you go to Spencers.
like you get one of those.
I think those were right.
No, I never.
These people are, the best part of the Ask Junior Live is the chat clowning us.
That's the best part.
I think you could get the switchblade comb.
Like, remember this, the Christmas door at your school when you would go pick out gifts for your parents?
No.
Did you ever have them?
Your fucking school had a Christmas store?
Yes.
Is yours?
No.
This is.
See, he says yes.
Where in the hell are you from?
You get the little thing where you put.
on the map.
New York?
What is up for y'all?
I guess it's a New York thing.
What is up with y'all?
Weird.
We don't have any stores.
Yeah.
Hey.
Okay.
My school didn't have a theme of store.
Dependent upon the season.
Did you guys have a Halloween store?
Hey, man.
You had book it.
Come by and pick up your board shorts for the summer.
You read the summer sale over here.
Did you do that?
What?
Did you have a bucket where you get the pizza, pizza hut party?
Oh, those are good.
No.
What?
Book it?
Yeah.
Where you read books and you can get personal pizza at pizza at Pizza Hut.
No.
Somebody said TJ went to his high school at Hallmark.
I might have.
I might have.
Sounds like we did.
I mean, you did the same stuff I did.
Yeah.
Oh, man.
All right.
So here's a good question I saw in our questions over the course of the past week.
If you could choose one track throughout all of racing history to run your last race on, I guess, or any race, regardless of the series or whatever.
The track can exist, not exist.
What would it be?
I had it.
Go.
Old Atlanta.
Oh, yeah.
That's hard to beat.
Well, I.
Old Atlanta meaning the one.
1991, 1989,
1989, 1975.
Because old Atlanta now means something different.
No, Atlanta without the dog leg.
Okay.
Man, you had a mile and a half racetrack without a dog leg.
We don't have one of those.
If you would have left it alone, you would have a one-of-a-kind racetrack today.
Was it more similar to a Darlington?
No.
It ran just like it runs now.
I mean, well, it doesn't run like it runs now.
It runs.
It didn't really change how the racing was when they put the dog leg in.
It just, the turns at Atlanta, it's, Atlanta's on a mile and a half racetrack and
80% of it was turned.
You know, the straightaways are relatively short and it's just in a turn forever.
And the old Atlanta, the ends were different, too, though, right?
Like, they were, they weren't.
Same ends.
I felt like one.
They just put a dog leg in it, T.J.
Really?
I thought the corner is one most tighter than that.
Look it up on a map.
Go to historical aerials, dude.
All right.
Damn.
Get it together.
Get it together over here.
I, um, I think, uh, yeah, Nashville Fairgrounds is a great, great one to put on the list.
Um, what the hell Dale homestead?
Like the flat homestead?
No.
The four-cornered homestead?
Absolutely not.
Uh-uh.
No way.
Yeah.
I would do old, I would do asphalt Bristol or old original Atlanta.
Man.
They did flip your correct spread.
They did flip one and two and three and four in Atlanta.
Like, TJ, is that what you mean when you said the ends are different?
I thought they were just different.
Shaped?
Yeah, a tiny bit.
You know.
When they put the dog leg in in 96, they just, they left the turns alone.
But, yeah, the front stretch and the backstretch changed like Darlington.
Yeah.
Dirt Bristol, man.
I don't know.
At least a little better than no tire fall off.
If you're going to do anything to dirt or do anything to Bristol, you know what I would like them to do.
This is, oh, man, Winchester Speedway.
here I go again talking about Winchester Speedway.
We have, I-Racing has Winchester scanned.
Yes.
I wish they would release it.
Myers is going to be mad at me, but.
We're live, Dale, thanks.
I know, I know we're live.
But Winchester, let's go.
I-racing.
The 400, one of the biggest races of the year.
We want to race online.
Come on.
Oh, Chris, Chris Rock.
Pretty cool.
The Chris Rock?
Yeah, right there.
Yeah.
He wants to know if we've been on eye racing.
Do y'all, how many of y'all like racing against the AI on eye racing?
I mean, I grew up racing against the, against humans on there.
But I had this idea with T.J.
That I wanted to do a 500 mile 87s at Talladega against the AI with T.
See how we run.
Yeah.
We're going to fix setups or open.
I don't know.
We used to spend a lot of time working on our setups.
Yeah, we did.
And then it got really difficult.
Dale, what would racing have been like for you if they had sim racing that the drivers do now when you were?
Dude.
When I, when I learned that there was racing on a PC, like you could go on a computer.
I was going to, I was in, I was a senior in high school at Mooresville when Bill Elliott's NASCAR Challenge came out on DOS.
And so on a floppy disk.
And so I was in the back of my drafting class after school was done for an hour.
The teacher would be in there, you know, wrapping up and I'd hang out.
around as long as I could to mess because I didn't have a computer at home.
And so I went to community college to get an automotive degree.
He had a computer in the classroom and I played Bill I was NASCAR challenge at school
at technical college, getting my automotive degree, my college education.
And then, in not.
94 or 96, NASCAR racing by Papyrus came out.
My sister took me to Best Buy.
She put a $500 computer on credit.
I didn't have credit.
I didn't have any credit.
And so I got a steering wheel and the computer,
and I paid her $100 a month.
and my dad said,
you're wasting your time with them computers.
And I'm like, I don't know, man, this seems like,
this seems like it's cool.
This is cool to me, right?
And now, man, the computers are cool.
Like, why would you say that?
And I thought, man, he's usually right.
But, yeah.
Yeah, 95 was.
Well, I think it came out in 95, 96th was amazing.
And we were just telling this story.
So you could, after a couple of years, I think they made a service that you could call in a long-distance number to Massachusetts to race online.
So they-free, just a long-distance call.
They came out with a way at first when you bought NASCAR racing on PC, you're
faced against the computer.
And if you look at the graphics today,
oh,
that's terrible.
In my mind,
it was way better.
Oh,
yeah.
Oh,
yeah.
And so I'm like,
God,
look at the graphics today.
I'm like,
damn,
that's terrible.
I know.
I was so real then.
Boy,
I couldn't believe I could actually race on a computer.
And so they came out with a way to go multiplayer.
And what you did was you called this long distance number.
We had,
you know, you would, there was a number in Massachusetts,
you had to, it would be busy.
Like if it was 8 to 9 o'clock at night,
you called the number and once you connected to the number,
it patched you to the server inside the game.
Yeah.
But everyone was calling it.
So it would only accept one person at a time.
So you called the number over and over and over,
and it was busy.
busy, busy, busy until you finally got in.
And so you're sitting there dialing this number up over and over and over.
Finally, you get locked in.
This is all DOS based too.
Yeah.
Like this isn't point and click.
This is like...
Yeah.
It was really, really challenging.
But finally, you're loaded in and you're running around these racetracks and there's real people...
It's unreal.
In front of you.
Like, exciting.
You know, driving good, driving bad, whatever.
But it's way better than the AI that you've been running.
racing for all, you know, these last couple of years. The problem was, is that you, you incurred the
long-distance rate. My brother and I lived in a double-wide trailer that we shared all utilities.
We had about a $20 phone bill and, you know, a $20 power bill. It was all pretty reasonable.
And he had me, we, we didn't, I was working at the dealership making $180 a week and, and so was he.
and he had a little bit better job than I did,
but we weren't, you know,
we were barely doing this.
And so he,
we get the first phone bill.
I know that this shit's coming.
Mm-hmm.
But I don't know how bad it's going to be.
Like, I'm not keeping tabs.
I'm not racing for impact.
I'm just like,
I ain't,
he don't.
So I got fired from the dealership.
And that story we've told.
But I was.
late every day. Like I was the, I was the quick loop mechanic. I was the guy that changed the oil
and I did 20, 30 oil changes a day. But my ass was rolling in 15, 20 minutes late every day.
Now, when this was going down, I'd get on the computer and race all night. Carrie would be
coming out of his bedroom going to work and I'm sitting there on the computer still racing.
And he would just look at me and shake his head. And I'm like, I know I'm going to get up and I'd get up and go
and throw on some clothes and haul ass to the dealership and be, you know,
10, 20 minutes late for work every morning.
And anyways, we get the first bill and it's bad.
400 bucks.
So mine was.
And Kerry comes in and he's like, what in the F is this?
And I'm like, yeah.
Yeah, I kind of knew that was coming.
And he's like, well, I'm not splitting this with you.
We'd split everything and, you know, down the middle.
He's like, I'm, you're, you're, I don't remember.
how we paid it. I have no idea. I have no idea. And I know for a fact that I ran up another
$400 bill the next month. And you didn't, when you got that bill, you were already three
quarters away through the next month. So you're getting another one. Yeah. I did the same thing.
My mom was pissed. I don't, and I mean, I don't, dad didn't bell us out. He didn't, I couldn't go to him.
He'd have told me to screw off. You know, I don't know how we put. Carrey had to have helped.
Yeah. I'm.
I didn't pay my mom anything.
They're still looking,
actually,
they're probably still looking for the money.
My God.
You didn't pay it.
Yeah.
Finally,
they came out with this program called 10.
Yep.
Total entertainment network.
And it was a 1-800 number or it was a totally.
Yeah.
Yeah,
it was a service like it was 10 bucks a month or something.
God dang,
man.
We were so,
I mean,
that's how I met TJ.
You have no idea how cool that stuff was when it came out.
Yeah.
That stuff was so much fun.
It was a ranking system too.
I'll tell y'all something too about dad.
This tells you about my dad and his, like, how much he helped out.
So, y'all remember when satellite, direct TV and all that stuff was kind of coming out and that was all new?
Like, I remember when only a few people on the street had this stuff.
Yep.
I mean, I know, like, way back in the day,
did the big dishes.
Giant dish.
Dad had one of them in the backyard.
dish out there.
And so,
we'd had that for a while,
but not everybody had one of them
on the street.
And then they come out
with these little, little dishes.
And to get a DirecTV,
I think the
monthly bill was in the 30s.
I don't know exactly,
but it was like reasonable.
But to install was
$1,000. Like to install
the dish was a chunk of money.
And I didn't have it.
And so I went to dad and I'm like, man, I want to put a dish in my house, but I can't afford it.
He's like, I'll pay, he, it was, he, I'm renting his house or I'm staying in this double-eyed trailer.
It's his property.
And he's like, I'll, I'll do half.
I caught him in a good mood.
He's like, I'll do half.
And so I'm like, you sure?
He's like, yeah.
So I schedule it.
Dude comes out, puts it in the ground.
I've got my satellite dish and now I've got to pay for it.
And he told me, he doesn't change.
When I went to get his half, he said, I changed my mind.
Nothing happened.
He wasn't mad at me for some reason.
He's just like, yeah, not going to do that.
And I'm like, dude, like I, now I'm on the hook for this money I didn't even got.
It's already done, too.
Speaking of, I've got to find, I save the question, scanning.
Somebody says they were on the scanner of California Speedway when you wrecked and asked you guys to help.
What do you remember of that?
So Kevin Harvick had a flat tire.
We're all running right around the top five, if I remember correctly.
Kevin Harvick had a flat tire, and he's trying to get to pit road,
but he's coming from kind of the top of the racetrack or the middle of the racetrack.
I'm coming full speed around the bottom, and I see him,
and I, you know, made the poor decision to stay flat-footed,
thinking that I could slip by him.
But he clipped me in the right rear, turned me head on into the wall,
coming off of turn four.
And so I hit left front to right rear.
So it was like a pop pop.
And it just was like a shotgun going off right next to my head.
I remember being in a lot of pain.
Yeah, it's kind of one of them deals where you hit perfectly to where all of you hurt.
Like not just a part of you.
I did slam my foot up against,
so my gas foot
went over and
hit the clutch pedal
wide ass open.
So that hurt.
I went and got an X-ray for that
because I thought I'd broken my foot.
But I was just in a bunch of pain.
It wasn't so much, you know,
I'd had a lot of head injuries over my career,
but I don't think that was one of them.
Because I got lucky and caught
with the left front, right rear.
It wasn't really a flat driver's side.
Slapp.
It was kind of like, you know,
King King Corners kind of hitting.
You get a little fortunate in those situations.
Were they worried about a concussion from that?
They were, weren't they?
I don't think so.
I don't think so.
But we didn't really talk about concussions back then.
Yeah, this wasn't.
Yeah.
I mean, it wasn't like this taboo thing.
I remember when I flipped at Daytona in 98 in the,
in the bush race.
And I hit my head on the door, like my helmet hit the doork.
When I came back down on the left front real hard.
Because it hit kind of hard, yeah.
Yeah.
And so I had a concussion.
I didn't really know it.
I got to the infill care center and got checked out.
When I'm walking out of the infield care center, I got really dizzy.
And the people that were with me caught me.
I was falling down.
And we laughed.
I laughed.
And I'm like, oh, man, you know, I guess I've gotten my bell ring.
I've never had my bell run before,
but this is what it must be like.
And we chuckled because the idea was,
ah, this will be a two, three-day thing.
Never thought about it again.
Yeah, never thought about it again.
Back to the fights.
The chat's been debating Austin Hill versus Ryan Newman.
Austin Hill and Ryan Newman.
I remember Austin Hill.
No, who wins in a fight.
Oh, I thought it was trying to remember when they fought.
No, no, they were debating who had won't fight.
I'm like, I remember Austin Hill and Sauter at Iowa.
and I remember Austin Hill and Mike Snyder on Pitt Road
Martin'sville at Martinsville
I don't know
what kind of fighter Newman
might be that's what I was kind of wondering
We've seen Austin Hill in action
Yeah
I'm taking Austin Hill
Have we seen Newman fight?
Austin Hill's a big boy
Yeah
I don't think we've really seen Newman fight fight have we
I don't know
I don't think so
I think Newman would hold his own
I think he would hold his own
That's a tough
He looks scrappy, like tough.
Yeah.
We've got two gentlemen in here from the one of the Dale Jr. Foundation.
Who do you guys think would win in that fight?
Oh, we got a newman.
Both are Newman.
Both Newman.
All right.
Okay.
There are a couple people here.
Newman, pretty big dude.
Newman wins all day long.
Newman's a big boy.
Dale, another top 10 for your boy.
Yeah, I know.
Josh Barry got another top 10.
You know, there's three races in the chase,
and Josh has been the top finishing non-chaise driver in two.
two of them. Pretty solid. Yeah, Josh Berry's having a pretty good run here lately.
Hey, that was from the back, too. I got an interesting stat. Now, don't look this up, everybody.
Who's led the most laps this year in 2006?
I think I... Manufacturer. Oh.
Oh. What, no. Name the manufacturer of the car he drives.
Toyota. It's a Ford.
Blaney? Yep. Ryan over here had that.
I would have lost
I would have not guessed that correctly
I mean just assuming
as strong as Toyota's been this year
yeah
yeah Blaney there for a little while
was just kind of hovering top fiveish
wasn't really dominating the races
that's cool everyone forgets it I mean he was second in points this year
so it makes sense he's almost got about
a hundred more laps than Denny
and Larson is
so it's Blaney at a thousand thirty one
Denny at 948 Larson at 88
and he got Legano
725
I wonder how many of those laps
in the last like
two months for Legato
Yeah
Reddick is 523
Ty Gibbs
Brisco
Blaine led a career high
202 laps at Bristol
Is that a skewed
stat though
because it's easier if you're really
strong at rogue
or I mean
short tracks
like Wilkesboro
if you're really strong
there you've got a more of a
and it's more laps too,
four or five hundred laps at Bristol
because you can knock off three, four hundred laps in a race.
You go to a mile and a half.
We run Kansas, what, 267 or something?
So really, you know, Blaney could lead 400 laps at, you know, Martinsville.
Is the other drivers not on the track at Martinsville?
I'm just saying it's easier.
You have more laps at short tracks if you're strong there.
Are they not able to lead there?
I'm just saying, is it?
There's more lapsed if your car is better at short tracks.
Could it be slightly skewed?
Yes, but obviously.
Like, it's not like a...
If we ran 500 laps at a mile and a half, would it be...
Then he would have more laps lead.
Exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
I don't think it's skewed, though.
Well, I mean, maybe not skewed was the right word, but, like, weighted differently.
Yeah.
UK fan here, Scooby.
That's pretty cool.
It's a good weekend for Amy.
I know what time it is in the UK.
Or are they saying Kentucky?
Yeah.
Oh, really?
That's how I took it.
Okay, yeah.
Yeah.
I don't think they're just celebrating.
United Kingdom.
Let's go.
That's so funny.
That's so funny.
I was glad that they won that game because Amy put on her cheerleader outfit.
It was a great day for her.
Yes, sir.
It's a great day for her husband, too.
She hasn't worn.
I mean, that cheerleader outfit's like 25 years old.
old.
She can still wear it's amazing.
Sorry.
What's so funny.
Help me out chat with the question.
No, that was good.
College.
How about freaking UNC all, you know,
making us believe that they might beat Clemson?
I do think the lightning delay hurt them.
God, I thought it would help because their,
their freaking defense was gassed.
I was so frustrated.
Both your team's lost, right?
Are you talking about Washington?
Well, all three of your teams lost.
Oh, yeah.
I felt bad for you.
South Carolina.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I did feel bad for you during that game.
We were texting a little bit about it.
I was watching it.
I'm like, oh, man, really?
Like, it just sucks.
Somebody's streaming in Egypt.
Egypt.
What?
Really?
Somebody just said they're streaming in Nicholas White 31.
That's wild.
It's got to be what, like the afternoon?
Yeah.
I have no idea.
Somebody is.
Another UK fan here.
Kirk Patrick.
Name checks out.
Ian.
Rick Flair at Bristol.
How cool was that?
That's pretty cool.
He told him to take off the helmets and fight.
Yeah.
I know Rick Flair is a wild man and he sort of come clean to some of the, you know.
He's like, hey, I was a fucking wild man.
I was crazy.
I probably parted way too hard.
But he stayed on a throttle.
He did.
And he is not, he has recognized his faults and leaned into them.
You know what I mean?
Mm-hmm.
It's like, this is who I am.
Saw Brad Pitt at the track too.
Oh yeah, Brad Pitt was that track.
Yeah.
That was interesting.
We had, who do we have the week before?
Sophie Cunningham was.
No, I mean, Tom Cruise.
We had Tom Cruise and Brad almost back to back.
Yeah.
And Sophie Cunningham was there.
Yeah.
I think it's good when you get, I know some people kind of don't like it,
but I like when, I think it's good for the sport getting outsiders in.
We used to not be able to pull like A-listers.
Yeah.
I mean, it's a Daytona 500 maybe, but some of the other races maybe.
I don't know what's changed, but.
Yes, I've played war dogs.
I like it.
You haven't played it yet.
I have it.
What's War Dogs?
War Dogs is a PC game.
Yeah, a new PC game.
It might be out on other, I don't know if it's out on other.
Damn.
consoles or whatever, but it's pretty fun.
We go to a Bill's game.
You jump through a table?
No.
Travis?
No.
Really?
I don't know if I'd like the...
My body's going to be sore for like a week.
No.
I don't know if I would like...
I mean, if it was...
If we went to a Bill's game and we were hanging out behind, you know, tailgating off of them,
in your parking spot.
And it was just us.
You'd do it?
I'd do it.
You don't want to do it.
I'm not doing it in front of a crowd of like a couple hundred people with their cell phones out.
I don't blame me either.
My thing is I do that and then I'm going to be drinking all day.
I'm just going to be sore like.
Oh, I ain't worried about that.
Can they spray you with ketchup and mustard?
No, definitely.
I'd rather jump through a table than get sprayed with condiments.
So we got time for maybe like one more question.
One more question here.
Before we check out.
Somebody earlier said, did you ever buy the Columbia tapes?
You get like 10 tapes for a penny.
The cassette?
tapes.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, you used to get those in a big pack.
Yeah.
They were wanting to know if you guys ever.
I did.
I didn't do that.
But when I was roughly eight years old, Kelly and my cousin, Tony Jr., were the 100th caller during the Sunday countdown, the top 100.
and they won
a either full album or the 45
of every single song
in the top 100 that played that day.
And I remember the records coming in the mail
and they had a hundred records,
either full albums or the 45 of the single,
and they gave me
one they gave me a 45 of Fleetwood Mac
and they gave me a Queen single
as well
but I remember all these records coming in
and that's kind of cool
remember that
what was your first record do you remember
that was it that was it yeah
it was it yeah it was
Fleetwood Mac hold me
and it might have been
radio by a queen
I think my first record was the Beach Boys, or yeah, was the Beach Boys.
Yeah.
Also, uh, rock me Amadeus.
Solid.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I remember calling into radio shows hoping to be called number nine.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Get on the air.
Request your song and then you get your set tape ready to hit record when they play it.
And then the DJ would talk over the beginning of the song a little bit and it would ruin the whole thing.
I got, I remember going to roses.
We didn't even have Walmarts back then
and getting the cassette for It Takes 2 by Rob Bass
and DJ Easy Rock.
Those were the times.
They were.
Yeah.
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Russell is with us and we are going to talk about some NASCAR stuff.
First off, though, going over last week's bets that we made,
all of us missed on our top tens.
Briscoe Hosevar, I missed on that one.
Lugano Blaney.
I'm not taking blame for my loss.
My loss is Carson Hosevar's fault.
I'm not taking it.
Buddy, you lost.
Bottom line.
Travis had Bell, Hamlin, Blaney, T.J. Kislauski, and Bowman.
Yeah, that was just a mess.
What the world.
Well, it was because of this and this and this.
Why didn't we give him a harder time when he came in with him to?
All of our picks on matchups were correct.
No, three or four.
I'm sorry, we didn't get Lugano Hamlin correct.
Oh, yeah, Danny screwed that up.
Yeah.
But you did say Lugano would finish top 10, so that bet would have cash if anybody bet it.
All right.
Of course.
Danny won. Yeah, we did. We did a good job on those. So let's take a look at racing insights, insightful insights.
That's a shirt. Insightful insights. It's going to be a shirt. Yeah, we're going to list a few drivers here and give you racing insights, insightful insights into each of these drivers.
Ryan Blaney. So Kansas is not a good spot for him to find his mojo, apparently. He's failed to finish three of the last.
last four races of 2026 due to accidents.
He's only got two top 10 finishes in the last seven Kansas races.
Wow.
Ty Gibbs, he's great in the points, not great in Kansas per racing insights.
Only two top 10 finishes in eight.
Kansas starts, including a ninth in the spring.
It's time to prove that he's a contender.
That's Joey Legano.
He's a three-time winner at Kansas, last win there in 2020.
he's finished 14th the worst in four of the last five Kansas races
so not a great place for Joey but can he go in there and prove he's a contender
then you have Reddick rebounds at Kansas Tyler Reddick he's won two of the last six
Kansas races
he's finished into top four including a win in three of the last four one and a half
mile races Hurricane could face a storm
that's Carson Hosevar
his best Kansas finished in six starts is 13th, and that was in the spring.
Someone's cold in Kansas and on one and a half mile tracks, and that's Austin Cendrick.
He's finished outside the top 10 in all 10 Kansas starts.
Another driver that's just purely cold at Kansas is Daniel Suarez.
It's been a difficult track for Suarez, finishing 13th to worst in each of the last six Kansas races,
with only two top tens and 19 starts at the track.
Bubba Wallace is good.
at Kansas.
One at Kansas in 2022.
Four top five finishes in Kansas in the last eight races.
Someone looking to turn things around at Kansas is Chase Briscoe.
He's only one top ten finished in the last five races of 2026.
So he's trying to make things a little bit better.
He's won the most recent mile and a half, though, at Chicago.
Kansas is a great place to fix his season.
That's Chase Elliott.
He's got two wins at Kansas, including this race last year.
He's finished in the top 10 in six.
of the last seven Kansas races.
And Kansas could make him a contender.
That is Christopher Bell.
Four Kansas race or four Kansas polls,
but the best finish is a runner up in 2023 in the May race.
He's finished in the top 10 and nine of his 13 starts at Kansas,
including five of the last six.
Now, the ones to really watch,
the hot drivers for Kansas are Kyle Larson and Denny Hamlin.
Kyle Larson has an average finish of 2.6 in the chase.
He's got three Kansas wins in all the last 10 races there,
and he's won two of the last five Kansas races.
Denny Hamlin has four Kansas wins, leading all drivers,
and he's finished in the top 10 and nine of the last 10 Kansas races.
The other was a mechanical failure.
So that is what racing insights has for us today for all our chase contenders.
Who's going to win this race?
Christopher Bell.
Christopher Bell.
Whoa.
Really?
Yeah.
That's my take.
That was, man, I hate to agree with him.
That's who I was sitting here thinking.
Why Russell?
Well, what's he been runner up in the last two mile and a half races?
He runs really well at Kansas.
I just think it's his time.
Wow.
I do too.
A couple of interesting stats going to Kansas.
No driver has got their first win at Kansas in 41 races.
that is the most races of all active tracks without a first-time winner.
The April Kansas race had just three cautions tied for the fewest in track history.
Four of the last six Kansas races, though, ended in overtime, including the last two.
How about that?
That's weird that it does, because Kansas has long runs.
Yeah, it does.
It's a long-run racetrack, but yet it provides you often often.
oftentimes an overtime finish.
Man.
You like the notes this week, huh?
I do.
I've been working hard.
That's great.
2311 has the most wins at Kansas as an organization with four.
Hendrik Motorsports is second with three.
Do you trust 2311 right now?
Honestly, when you go to Kansas, I think you have to.
Probably their, arguably their best track.
I mean, Darlington's up there too.
But do you think they could just turn it on?
They turned it on last year.
They turned it on the year before.
Yeah.
They've had, they've been a, before this year, they were not a top tier organization.
And they would show up at Kansas and run incredibly well.
So I feel like this is one of them deals where you kind of got to ignore recent performance.
Mm-hmm.
And kind of go with your, at least I'm going with my gut, that I will see Reddick and Bubba Wallace running in the top five at some point in this race.
I think it's very likely.
Did Danny just turn it off?
Can you just turn it on?
Regardless of the...
It's even regardless of whether Toyota has lost their edge or not.
I still think this is just a track where 23 and 11 and the two drivers, you know,
could be a very driver dependent.
I know 2311's got great race cars, but this is also a track where these two guys have a ton of confidence.
I don't think that they win the race, but I think you could bet them top tens.
Who do you think wins, Dale?
Christopher Bell.
Honestly, I've got a weird feeling, man,
that Kyle Larson goes in there and wins.
I'm, I've said it on, I said it on our show yesterday.
The first thing I'm going to be looking for when they start the race in the first stage is,
are the Toyota still dominant?
Where's Denny Hamlin running?
How many Toyotas are in the top five?
Does that, does this mile and a half look different than every?
every other mile and a half that we saw this year.
And that will help me understand truly whether Larson has a shot, whether Pinsky
has a shot, or is it going to be another dominant performance by Toyota's?
I have a feeling that Kyle Larson and his team, they aren't the best team.
They aren't the fastest team, but they don't have to be.
I think they can execute.
I think if he's got a top three car, he can get the track position.
use the top of the racetrack, do all the things that he does really well there.
They seem to be finding their way.
To get the win, yeah.
I just, I think that there, I think, you know, the balance between or the competitiveness that Toyota's had is, they've closed the gap.
Do you feel like Kyle now that he's kind of found victory, he's found Victory Lane again, he's strong again here now?
Do you think he, to me, this is a race where guys like him, I want to see him going there and be really competitive, but not overstep.
because I feel like there's guys like Briscoe and Redick
who have to be pretty much aggressive now, right?
They've got to make up some points.
Yeah, the other thing I like about it is
that Larson's crew ranks the best overall 29 races this year.
You know, it's this time of year
where we start looking at pit crews
and start even in the chase
where the elimination is gone
and all of that, all that mess.
Pit crews still matter.
Pit crews still make a difference.
And it feels like that, you know,
those guys,
on the five car are sort of posturing themselves to be competitive on pit road and on the racetrack
as well. And that's what they've talked about internally as a team is execution. Once the cars get
there, which I believe the cars are starting to really get to where they're winning cars,
the execution has to matter. That's how Reddick was able to get to where he was five races
into the season or seven races into the season. Perfect execution.
not being the best car, but perfect execution.
So it feels like to me that the five teams
looking like they're doing that better than anybody at this moment.
How much can fans take into practice and qualifying
to see kind of how the race is going to be?
I think a lot.
You know, the more practice we get,
the better understanding we have of who's got long run speed,
who's got, you know, I look at those five, 10, 15 lap averages
and I see, okay, this guy's really high in the five,
but he's low or totally not exist in the 10 short run speed,
no long run speed.
That's problematic at Kansas where you think we're probably going to get some long green flag runs.
I look at guys that are really, really good at 10, 15 lap runs
because I think we'll have a handful of those long runs in this race.
And so that long run speed is going to matter.
There's a wide racetrack.
So, you know, track position's nice, but it's not everything at this place.
So, yeah, I kind of, I think the more practice you get,
the better understanding you have.
Not at every racetrack.
Some racetracks will watch practice and everything you see doesn't pan out at all in the race.
You'll see guys that are fast in practice.
They'll never hear from them during the race itself.
And we get 50 minutes now too.
So you're going to see two good runs.
Yeah.
Everybody together to me makes a difference.
But you have to at the same time, and I think we all know this,
but at the same time for our listeners, the drivers and the drivers and the drivers and
the teams also have an agenda during practice to run a certain amount of laps to get all the fuel
out of the car to be able to go out there and qualify with as little amount of fuel as possible.
So teams, drivers are out there running longer, green flag runs, multiple laps trying to position.
So you've got to, you've got to know how to offset some of the things you're seeing with time,
with, you know, with speed as to what their agenda is during practice.
some of that can be a bit misleading.
But, you know, if you can look at all that, go ahead.
I will say from experience this year, Denny's practices are not an indication of if he's going to be good or not.
So that's the one that's been true most of the year.
That's exactly right.
Yeah.
So matchups?
I'm going with Larson.
Russell's got Christopher Bell.
don't ask me you're going to denny
Travis T.J.
Who you got to win the race?
You're going to be Bowman.
I got Bell.
Bowman will run good at Kansas, though.
It's one of his best tracks.
Wait, non-chaise driver.
Where does Josh Berry finish?
Josh Barry will probably not be the highest finishing non-chase driver in this race.
I'm going to say anywhere from...
So no top 10?
10th to 14th.
Still good.
That would be a good day for him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, I just, we're in the chase.
You're going to see a ton of chase drivers toward the front of the field.
It's crumbs for every non-chaise racer.
So trying to get, you know, a tenth to 15th is going to be a great result for any non-chaser.
80 degrees.
Sorry, T.J.
80 degrees, partly cloudy skies, five or ten miles.
I like Kansas and pounds because of the wind, but we don't have a lot of wind this time.
Who you want to win to race, T.J.
I picked Christopher Bell already.
All right, I'm just marking us down.
You just go with what Russell says.
No, I was mad when he said.
I was mad when he says it.
All right, let's talk about top tens.
This is my favorite part.
Who's going to dial up a couple of top tens?
Let's parlay a few drivers together.
When we look at active top 10 finishing streaks at Kansas,
we have a couple drivers with three.
Briscoe, Larson.
I think Larson for a top 10 is a nice little pick and easy.
Can Briscoe bounce back?
He was our most recent
winner at Chicago, the last mile and a half
that we ran at.
Also, with two top 10
street going, is
Reddick, Byron, Kozlowski, Hamlin,
Wallace, and Chase Elliott.
Denny Hamlin,
another thing I would want to mention,
Denny Hamlin and William Byron are the only
drivers to finish in the top 10 in all
five races on 1.5-mile
tracks this year.
So here's a couple of parleyes that I could throw together.
All right, so here's a couple of top ten parleyes that I would suggest.
What does a Denny Byron top 10 parley look like, Travis?
Denny and the Byron top 10 minus 102.
All right, I like that one.
How about a Briscoe Byron?
Brisco Byron plus 138.
All right, give me this one.
Brisco Reddick-Larsin.
Brisco Reddick-Larsin.
plus 132.
I like all of those.
This is my weekly reminder that Dale likes these.
He will not be betting these.
I do not bet on motorsports.
I bet on college sports,
but I like to pretend.
So have fun with that.
We'll see if I'm right.
Russell, you got a good top 10 parley?
I would be a favorite guy.
Like everything scares me but the favorites.
Okay.
Yeah, so the ones I mentioned
So the ones you mentioned, I might do like a Ty Gibbs and Christopher Bell or something like that.
Okay.
Travis.
Give me Lars and Hamlin Blaney.
Okay.
I just think we're at the point now where it's chasers.
Yeah.
T.J.
You're going to step on an island?
Yeah, probably.
I normally do.
I'll go Priests and Bush are top ten.
Well, we know what's not hitting.
All right.
Busher.
All right.
Hey, you want me to go out an island?
I'm going.
There are multiple drivers without a top 10 at a mile and a half track in 2026.
And Preece is one of them.
T.J., plus 950.
His best finish, though, was an 11th.
I'm telling, I mean.
Which last I check is.
It still won't pay.
Just see, no.
It still won't pay.
All right.
I'm going to write that one down.
So, T.J, you're going, Preece.
Yeah, sure.
Busher.
Busher.
To our guest in the studio.
give me two names top 10
Bubba
and Hosevar
plus 2333 to our guests.
Y'all are going to give him
for that because
they're our guests
I'm going to be nice to them
also they're not idiots
both of those drivers have top 10
is a mile and a halfs this year
but Hosevar what?
Yeah I'd be a little nervous about
Hosevar he's not run very well in mile and a half
lately.
Thank you.
I'd be nervous about that but
I'd be nervous about it's better than your bet
T.J. I said Josh Barry would
finish in the top 15. His best finish in a mile and a half in 2026 this year has been 27th.
Yeah. That's a... My goodness. You're wild, man. You got to remember that all those,
his streak was all on those... I know. Not on mile and a halfs. Yeah. We'll see. We'll see what
happens. Another driver who is on that list of not having a top 10 in mile and a halfs is our
chaser Austin Cendrick 12th. It's his best finish at a mile and a half.
this year.
All right, we got a few matchups to go over.
We got our first matchup is Larson Reddick.
And this is an interesting one because Larson's minus 140 Reddick is plus money, plus
100.
So, I mean, if you wanted to try to make a little bit of money,
you could take Reddick there, even though I think we all agree.
Larson's the favorite.
The next matchup matchup here is Christopher Bell and Reddick.
it's even at minus 115 apiece.
And I think our man Russell here loves
of Christopher Bell to win the race.
I do. I like Bell in this.
Larson versus
Hamlin, pretty even as well.
What do we think there?
I'd stay away from it.
Stay away.
Briscoe and Byron, another
even one there. I like
Byron and Briscoe both to get top tens,
but I loved what I saw out of Briscoe
at the mile and a half in Chicago land.
And he's had a couple of rough weeks.
and I just got to feel like they're going to have some sort of a decent result.
Yeah, and I feel like Byron's team has really struggled lately.
Yeah, sure has.
Ligano and Bell, this is an interesting one.
Lugano's been hot, but at this matchup, he's at plus 145 versus Bell at minus 200.
I wouldn't bet Bell because it minus 200 is not a lot of fun.
But do you even wasting money on betting Ligano?
He would probably make you regret it if you didn't.
I think you'd rather go bet him to just top three or something like that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I agree.
You bet what?
I would bet Legano top three or something like...
You're going to skip the matchup.
Yeah, I'm just going to skip the matchup and bet if you think that's going to happen, if Ligano's going to beat Bell.
Yeah.
Hamlin versus Chase Elliott.
Another matchup just doesn't make any sense.
Hamlin at minus 175 versus Chase at 130 plus 130.
Betting neither one of those sounds much fun.
I avoid.
Yeah.
Blaney versus Hosevar.
Blaney at minus 170, host of art plus 125.
This is just a good job by the books.
Good job putting this together.
I still think even with the juice, I would go with Blaney.
Oh, all right.
Blaney at minus 120 versus Gibbs at minus 110.
I feel like for some reason Gibbs ought to be the favorite here,
but he's not with the odds.
This is another one that's really a coin flip for me.
Yeah.
Because I think they're both going to run anywhere from six to tenth.
Yeah, they're both going to finish fifth and six.
It just depends on them.
I want to see if we can parlay two of these together.
Sometimes they allow it.
What's two that we like that we said, but juice-wise, we didn't.
You want to do Blaney and Hamlin v. Elliot?
I like Christopher Bell over Lugano and Hamlin over Elliott.
We can do that plus 135.
Nice.
Man, that sounds like fun.
I hate that I cannot do it.
All right.
Well, then let's do that.
Let's parley
Let's parley Denny
and Bell
on that.
Hopefully Ligano
or Chase Selle.
It doesn't make us regret it.
Well, Russell, hey, I appreciate you coming in, buddy.
No problem.
Hope you enjoyed your time with us.
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who is the host of Dirtymo Media's new college football show,
Unafraid Show.
George, thanks for joining us today.
Played at Oregon, fourth round draft pick for the Jacksonville Jaguars,
and he's our expert when it comes to college football.
And we've got a lot of questions for you today.
How you doing, George?
Man, I'm doing great.
I'm doing great.
I've watched you race,
and me and you,
have something in common, I don't know if you know, but we both share our father's name.
I'm the third, you're a junior. All right. Yeah, that's a lot of responsibility. That's why I've
always felt. It really, it really is because so my dad isn't famous like your dad was, but
I remember a PE teacher told me when I was in high school, he said, George, if you go, if you
grow up to be half the man your dad is, you'll be a great man.
I was like, no pressure, right?
Yeah, that's, I mean, that's every son.
But yeah, I think when you get the name, there's sort of this expectation of I'd,
I've given you this, this thing to carry forward and don't mess up the legacy.
Exactly.
Yeah.
So let's get into some college football.
Last week, I had, let's see here.
Last week, we had a couple of bets that we all put on the table.
And Miami.
That was a bad beat.
Yeah, I had UNC.
They looked like they were going to win that game against Clemson.
But I had UNC, I think, plus three and a half.
They look good to the lightning delay.
Well, that game, honestly,
that game has so much riding on it
because Bill Belichick and company, you know,
with his son resigning,
Mike Lombardi resigning.
Like, every win buys him more time.
And the same thing with Clemson and Davo,
like things aren't going exactly as planned
after they got boat raced by LSU
and then people are already frustrated with, you know,
with the way things are going.
So them coaches, they needed that.
been badly.
And Davo coming out with it,
it just silenced everybody just for a little bit longer.
Yeah.
Do you follow the UNC deal?
Because, I mean, I know there's a lot of tons of noise off the field.
And it kind of makes you wonder how long Bill will hang in there.
But he seems, for the most part, still committed to putting a great football field on the,
or football team on the field and committed to UNC.
How long do you see it?
this partnership going.
It depends on how many
Wednesday get, right? Because on
some level, when you have your
when your general manager
has allegations
of impropriety going on, and then
he resigns, your
son goes on medical
leave, and there's reports
that, you know, unsubstantiated
in terms of not, I shouldn't say
I'm substantiated, it's just a non-verified
reports that he's in rehab.
And then there's allegations of coaches giving drugs to players,
staffers sleeping with players, all of this stuff.
Like, all of that going on, when you are the man in charge,
you are ultimately responsible for everything that happens inside of your program.
So, like, if you are the Board of Regents, if you're the donors, the boosters,
you have to say, all right, if we're not winning football games at a high level,
even if we're only getting six wins, seven wins, that's not what we paid for.
And also all of the rest of this noise, it's not quieting because last year was one thing.
This year it's another thing.
And you just have to wonder how long that they're going to want to stick with that situation.
I give it, if they win six games or less, I think this will be the last season.
If they get up to eight games, he'll get at least one more.
Wow.
How long does it take for him to take over a program like that?
And really, how long does it take like we saw Harbaugh and going to?
to Michigan. It seemed like it took him a couple years of recruiting and stuff before they really
started to hit their stride. Like, does it take a coach like him a couple years to come in and
start before the, you know, recruiting kicks in really good or, you know what I mean?
Well, we're in the day and age of the transfer portal. So if you do a good job of recruiting the
portal and coaching well and coaching them up, like you can go from a bad team, you know, a four or five win team to a seven.
win team pretty quickly.
But it doesn't take too long to get your culture in because you can get rid of kids and
you can get rid of staffers.
And he brought in his whole crew.
So you shouldn't have had a problem in terms of staffing because this is your staff.
But you can have a problem with getting the requisite talent to compete in the ACC.
That may take you a couple of cycles.
So the, so like you can get some stop gaps in.
between time.
So I don't think that you have to go out and, you know,
win immediately.
Look at Tony Elliott over at Virginia.
They had three years where they're building, building, building.
And then you are,
and then they go out and win 10 games last year.
And then they start the season pretty good this year at 2 and 1.
So like people will give you grace with the wins and losses,
but you can't have not winning and have turmoil within the program
with the people that you hired off the,
field and people think that you have control and a handle of what's going on because this is
his first time in college.
And I've talked to a former professional player who played at the highest level whose kid
went there and he was like, this ain't the situation.
It's not good over there right now.
Well, let's move on, talk about Ole Miss.
They are now three and a half plus three and a half on the road at Florida.
What does Vegas know that the public doesn't?
Oh, man.
They have not seen this Florida offense because they can score points.
Aaron Filo, the quarterback, he's a good player.
Jaden Ball, this is what I have on my watch list for this week as the Heisman
Trophy game because you got Trinidad Chamblitz on one end who is, I mean, everybody saw
what he did to LSU.
That's what he does every single week.
And Jaden Ball, the running back over at Florida, this kid is electric.
And their new head coach, John Somerall, he has this team offensively rolling.
Defense, they can't necessarily stop a nosebleed.
So this is going to be a shootout.
But I think that they believe that Florida has a little bit more offense
and will be able to have the advantage of playing at home in the swamp.
Georgia is only a 14-point favorite against Oklahoma.
What do we think about that?
This is a rock fight game of the week.
This is my sickos game of the week.
If you are a sicko, if you want to watch Oklahoma play offense,
They scored 14 points versus New Mexico last week.
And the week before they were, and the week before they played Michigan,
they only scored 10 points.
This is an office that can't run the ball at a high level.
They can't pass the ball at a high level,
but they damn sure can play some defense.
But they had a major injury scare.
And we're not even sure if their best defensive lineman Stone,
their big, D tackle, who's likely an All-American that he's not even good.
he's not even expected to play in this game.
So that's going to hurt them as well.
But Brett Brent Venable's very good defensive coach.
So on some level, you are thinking, all right, he'll be able to slow this Georgia
offense down some.
And that's why I think the line is only 14 is because I'm looking at it.
I'm saying, all right, Georgia is going to win this football game.
It's just a matter of how much because Georgia's defense is good.
but Oklahoma's offense is horrible,
is bad on the eyes right now.
So I would take Georgia and have 14 points,
and you,
but that 14 is tight.
Like that could end up a 13 point win
and you'd be frustrated on the back end,
but Georgia's winning this football game.
Dale, that's where you do what you normally do
and move that number and parlay it with another game.
Teased it down.
That's right.
George, I have a game,
Alabama versus South Carolina.
I think Alabama is going to,
you know, they kind of struggled against Kentucky,
but I think they're only getting better.
In Keelon Russell, young quarterback,
and South Carolina,
I think is going backwards.
At 12 and a half,
I feel like this is right for Bama.
I do.
I do too.
But the only thing that scares me is that this is the exact type of game
to Kaling DeBoreland.
Right?
Easy, Travis.
No, that's it.
He's not wrong.
Yeah, this is the exact kind,
kind of game.
If you had put Georgia in this spot,
Georgia would be in trouble.
But the fact that they're playing against South Carolina is like this is the one time where you will have Shane Beamer and Lenora Sellers.
Like they will be at their peak magic powers.
That's the only thing I'm worried about in this game because everything.
They're playing at Bryant Denny Stadium.
They are, you know, it's a after it's a night kick.
Everything is in Alabama's favor.
And then you will mess around and have Angels in the Outfield performance from South Carolina.
So, but I, if my money's on the line, I'm taking Alabama minus 12.5.
I got a three-game parlay.
Alabama is actually part of it.
I got Alabama minus six and a half.
I got Indiana at minus 15 and a half and LSU at minus six and a half.
Oh, Alabama minus six and a half.
that feels amazing.
That feels amazing right there.
Because you're going to get at least a touchdown win out of there.
And then, and who is the second game?
Indiana at 15 and a half over Northwestern.
So Indiana is playing Northwestern.
I know very few people watch their sickos like me.
And they watched Northwestern versus Colorado last week.
They tore the cover off of Colorado.
So I think that people are underestimating this Northwestern team.
And Chip Kelly is the offensive coordinator.
He does a really good, good job.
Their quarterback, Aidan Childs, who transferred in from Michigan State's a good player as well.
And my biggest question about Indiana, the defending national champions is we don't know anything about them.
They just played what their own coach, Kurt Signetti said, was three glorified scrimages,
which I absolutely hate because he gets out here talking all this trash.
All I do is win.
All I do is win.
All you do is duck non-conference opponents because they canceled the Notre Dame game.
He doesn't want to play anything competitive in the non-conference,
which is hard because he's a great coach, runs a great program.
I don't understand why you're ducking the smoke when as college football fans,
this is what we deserve is more good games.
So with that said, I would have stayed away.
from that game because that's scary as hell.
Because I, like, Indiana against Western Kentucky and everybody else that they've played,
they've looked amazing.
But so does everybody else versus non-competitive games.
So we don't know as much about Indiana this season as we should because I think
they're transfer a quarterback who transferred in from TCU, Josh Hoover.
I think he's only thrown like 52 passes in three games.
Like that's not realistic.
And he was a kid who threw a lot of interceptions, and we're going to see if he is the, if they can Fernando Mendoza, Josh Hoover.
Yeah. But I would have stayed away from this game. And if I were picking it, I would lean towards Indiana minus, what was it, 15 and a half?
Yeah, I would lean towards that, but that would, I would have teased that down a little bit to get that under two touchdowns, like 13 and a half.
I watched a little bit of Texas A&M last weekend.
They're playing LSU this weekend.
I'm taking LSU.
It's minus six and a half.
I like it.
Why do you like that one so much?
Is the question?
Like, what about what LSU has put on tape that you are confident that they will beat Texas A&M?
I think they got a chip on their shoulder.
They know that they got to put a lot of points on the board.
I also think it's not what LSU can do.
It's what Texas A&M can't do with Marcel or E.
They're like the same quarterback.
I know that everybody's looking at,
and I actually think that Marcel Reed is a better passer than Sam Levitt.
Because if you watch at LSU fans, they will grow to understand.
If you remember back to last weekend, it was fourth and four,
it was fourth down a couple times or some short third downs.
There are a wide open guys standing four yards away.
and he's like, nope, I'm going to go run it.
And he turns into this battering rim quarterback.
And number one, you can't stay healthy like that.
And also, you don't build trust in your teammates like that
because the wide receivers, they want the football.
And you got to do your job as a quarterback to deliver that.
And Marcel Reed, on the other hand, teams know,
if you keep him in the pocket and don't let him escape outside of the pocket
where he becomes a whole different.
player, he will eventually throw you to football.
And if he throws you to football once, he will have at least one or two more turnover
worthy plays during the game.
So this is going to be decided by which quarterback can play the cleanest.
Because what LSU does is similar to what, I mean, it's very similar to what they
were doing with Ole Miss, except for they don't have Trinidad Chambers.
They got Sam Levin, who's not a bad quarterback, but these are two Spider-Man's pointing at each
other. I would tend to go with, I'm telling you, like, these, these teams are very similar.
And an LSU is going to be without Trade As Green, their star tight in, who's a monster,
and they lost one of their DBs, too. I like Texas A&M to get the upsat.
Wow, man. Coming off of a loss to Kentucky, you don't think that they're in their heads a little bit?
Oh, of course.
Because truth be told, even the week before,
they almost lost to Arizona State.
They needed Arizona State to have like two fumble sixes in the fourth quarter
to be able to pull away in that game.
Because that game was looking like a potential upset too.
But I do believe that this is a potential reset for Texas A&M
that they're looking in the mirror like, hey, yo, like we thought we were good.
We got to tighten up.
And there's an arrogance about LSU, right?
Well, even going into that old Miss game.
Oh, we're just better than them.
Well, ha, ha, ha.
And the way that they lost on.
I'm telling you, like, just look at the body language.
Even look at Lane Kiff.
And he just looks smug coming out of the,
out of the tunnel.
Like, hey, man, we're better than you.
You know what they say.
You can't make a house full.
And my mind.
Yeah.
Hey, man.
Hey man, you can't do it.
You can't do it.
It can't do it.
It's not advisable.
Yes.
Yes.
It is not advisable.
Everybody knows the same.
And that's, and that's Lane.
Like, he's going to do what is best for Lane at all times, at all times.
Sometimes it aligns with what you want to.
So then you think that he's a, a friend and not just an ally in the moment.
Yeah.
Because Lane going to do what Lane want to do.
He ain't going to do.
He ain't going to be worried about what's best for anybody else,
but sometimes it lines up.
And there's an arrogance about this team.
And I don't think until they drop another game that they're going to,
it's like that quote that says,
a man only lives two lives.
And the second one begins when he realizes he only has one.
And I think that they won't realize that they only have one
until they lose to Texas A&M.
And then it's going to be like,
oh, wait, hold on.
Hold on. We got to figure some things out.
I love it.
All right, ma'am.
That's perfect. I'm rethinking that back now.
Yeah, I am too.
I'm thinking about putting another bet down.
All right, buddy, George. I appreciate you tuning in today, man.
It's great to have you part of the Dirty Mo Media family.
And it's awesome to be able to talk college football with somebody with as much knowledge as you.
I appreciate you having me.
I'm proud to be part of the Dirty Mo family because we stand for the same things.
I stand for five things, Dail, Faith, Family, Fatherhood, Food, and Sports.
Those are things I spend my time, my money, and my energy on.
So, yeah, so I'm happy to be here.
And thanks for creating the platform where we can grow some things.
You got it.
Thank you, man.
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