The Dale Jr. Download - The World Hasn’t Heard This Song Yet… But It Will

Episode Date: July 29, 2025

Dale Earnhardt Jr. returns to the studio after a historic weekend in Indianapolis for another edition of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to unpack all of the major storylines from NASCAR’s latest trip to the Brickyard:There’s nothing new about dirty air at the BrickyardRace winner Bubba Wallace joins the showMoving off the Playoffs bubble with a winThe Next Gen car struggles on one grooveLet’s rewind the tape on the 1980 World 600100 wins for JRMDuring the Ask Jr. segment, listeners wrote in questions regarding:Whether Austin Hill should be suspendedDale’s recent late model stock test at Anderson  And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMediaDirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They’ve got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuffFanDuel: Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call [phone] for 24/7 support in Massachusetts or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York.Consumer Cellular: New customers get a $5 credit on first five monthly invoices. Visit https://savings.consumercellular.com/DJD for details.Arby’s: Arby’s Cheesesteak is Here! Use code DALE to redeem $0 Delivery on any order in the Arby’s app. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia  Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

It's weird about all this. It's like, you got so many cars on the racetrack, and you watch one crash, and you're like, oh, shit. Damn, I'm heartbroken. Now I'm happy because my guy's in the lead, but I'm heartbroken. But I'm happy, but I'm heartbroken, but I'm happy. I got my arm around, Justin. Oh, it's all right, buddy.

And then I'm like, hey, Larson, don't worry about it. And then I'm over here, and I'm like, hey, Connor, hell of the job, man. Did I add all of them. What do you do? The following is a production of Dirty Mo Media. I'm still sour, man, that I wasn't your best man at your wet. When will you start mentally, like, getting ready for the race? Can you not tell I'm mentally ready?

Travis has some dumb ideas, but I agree with him on this one. It doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about. You haven't scratched the surface yet. I mean, what the fuck do you won't? I just think the last few laps, it was just like stop every time. You're picky. This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker. All right?

This ain't Burger King. Travis is like, I'm wrapped us up. They all have no fun around you. Hey, everybody. It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. Download with my co-host, DJ Majors, and we're in the studio.

Pretty nice to be back in the studio, and I have been without my... I've been without my jerky boys, but no more. Jerky Boys, over here in the gift shop. I was out of town, man. I ran out. And so I have had no... I've had no jerky boys for like a week, week and a half.

You poor thing. Well, yeah. Smokes. Good thing you can buy some here. And I've been getting the alerts that your shipment has landed back home. And I'm like, I got bags and bags of jerky at home. Can't wait. So finally, I'm back in the loving arms.

I thought you're going to reach for the... Jerky Boys Beach Jerk. I thought you're going to reach for the winning spark plugs. I hope done with me to think that you're doing that and you're going to go for the beef jerky. Oh, I have done over here. It is good jerky. Here are the winning spark plugs. They keep one.

NASCAR keeps one. I was wondering why you only have seven. NASCAR keeps one. Okay? NASCAR. I don't know what the hell this is. I guess my generic win sticker.

Yeah. 100 wins. Junior Motorsports. Took a long time to get there. About time. Did it really? Take that long, though? No, I'm just kidding.

101's next. Oh, yeah. Pretty awesome, man. Great experience. Connor did a good job. Did anybody do a bad job? Kyle Larson did a bad job in turn two. He did.

Connor doesn't think so. No, he doesn't. Dude, that was a whole lot of drama going on. So we get the little rain shower and looks like, you know, Justin's got a shot at this if we just can get him out front. He was strong enough with his car and he, you know, the air's dirty. He looks solid.

Yeah, the air's dirty enough behind him that they weren't going to really be able to get to him. And so I'm sitting there, we got that little rain shower and I got on the radio and I was like, man, you got to remember this thing's going to have so much grip going off in the corner. We've soaked turn one, turn two. It's clean. Cool, temperatures down. shade on the track. It's like, gosh, dang, dude.

Think about that. Hammer that thing off in there. You're going to have way more grip than what you've had all day. Dover repeat. Don't tiptoe in there. And he did. He fired off in there and he lost the lead to the five. And then we got the restart and he got it back.

And I was like, hell yeah, boy, you just burnt, you know, you just got the lead. from Kyle Larson at Indy on a restart. That was pretty impressive. It's good. So get another caution, another restart, going to do it again. And, you know, Larson's like, well, I got to try a little harder because he beat me last time. So he did. He tried a little harder, and he busted his ass over there and turned two.

And, you know, I felt bad for Justin. You know, he hit the wall pretty hard for one. And he's old like me. but he he you know he he wanted to Justin has done all these things here he's raced here forever

for junior motorsports and he wants to be the guy that gets the 100 to win badly so I knew he's heartbroken and I he was like you know a little bit he had a little bit of a you know chip on his shoulder about it

like he's going to go say something or just show his voice is frustration, and I was like, man, let's not do that. Let's not do that. Because we, you know, Larson is in the Xfinity car

a couple times a year, and he's in that car to win, right? Only win. Only win. And yes, he busts his ass, but he also has two of those 100 wins for junior motor sports.

And I wouldn't mind his ass getting in them cars and getting a couple more. And that just might happen. I told Rick, and I've had this happen here before. I'm like, you know, you build great race cars that should run up front. You put drivers in them that should run up front. They're going to run in each other sometimes. Unfortunately.

Yeah, it happens. Happens. Damn, how many times have we been the joke of the series wrecking ourselves at Daytona? and, you know, it happens. And it's, uh, it's, it's one of those things where also the engine shop is working their ass off to build us really great motors. The end, the same engine shop that's trying to win a cup championship that builds, you know, dozens of dozens of cup engines every week.

Their focus is on winning cup races. but they're tasked to build our engines and build them well. And they do. Yeah, they do. Good job. Right. And if we get to arguing each other, if we get to arguing with that 17 or bad mouth and Kyle or whatever and it's,

you know, we get to, you know, starting something that don't need to be nothing, then it upsets the momentum that all those people are creating. the engine shop could lose a little steam and you know if we if so we all got to we all got to keep pulling the rope in the same direction

and it's less entertaining for us jeez i know that would you felt the same had connor not won would you been okay with justin going up to larsen and talking to him listen i don't care what jesson does i just wanted him to know like you know let's not let's not do let's not turn this into us versus them you know He's having a great season. I go back to Bristol.

You know, Justin is leading the race. As soon as Larson caught him, Larson running a fucking back of him and knocked him up the racetrack. I'm like, what the fuck was that? You know, you're faster. You're going to pass Justin. Why'd you drive through us?

We're all on the same boat here. Because, you know, Adam Wall worked here as a crew chief. He's the crew chief on the 17 car now. Greg Ives, one of my good friends, is sort of the overseer of that operation. And I think, and we all share information. They know our information. They take everything we do here with our cars,

and they go and take it and they try to make it better. And we like that. And then whatever they learn, we want to take that and make that better, you know, and it's this great way to rise, bring it all up, you know. And, you know, so Larson's going to drive the way he's going to drive. He's going to drive hard,

be aggressive. He doesn't, you know, look at, he doesn't, apparently he doesn't look at the seven of Justin and go, man, I should take care of him. That's a junior motor sports car. Well, that's how I look at is, like, Justin needs to kind of watch what he does, but if Kyle's not watching anything, then, like, what, like? Well, I mean, he's not in the car every week.

Okay. I think Justin deserves to have that conversation with him, then if this is routinely happening. He can go have it. But I wanted him to know not to, whatever, Choose his words wisely. Maybe behind cameras and not so that it becomes a thing for everyone to talk about. Because he's going to get interviewed at the infield care center, which he was. Choose your words wisely because we are all in this together. You don't want to have to have a meeting about it.

And we, yeah, we have, we have a, we rely heavily on multiple organizations to be competitive. Trackhouse, Hendrick Motorsports, resources coming from all around. to make this work. And you can't pull a spoke out of the wheel and expect it to keep rolling down the road. And so as much as I wish, you know, Kyle would make those decisions a little differently like at Bristol or at Indy.

Kyle's Kyle. I'm not going to tell Kyle how to race. He's a damn champion race car driver. I wish he would do things differently, but he's going to do what he does. Plus again, like he's two of the 100 wins. I walked, I had, on my way from our pit box to victory lane, I had to walk by Kyle.

And he was like, man, I'm sorry. And I was like, I ain't worried about it. I was like, we, you're part of the story. We're walking to celebrate 100 wins. You're one of the reasons why we are doing that today. So, hey, what are you, what am I supposed to say? You guy? What am I supposed to say?

what do people think I'm supposed to say? I mean, I don't know if you need to say something to him, but I think I'd been perfectly okay with Justin going up to him and saying, dude, like, he should. And figure it out. I definitely think Justin needs to stay in his ground at some point to it. But that how, I mean, that's... Did I say he shouldn't?

The way that you made it, to me, it seemed like you were telling Justin, let's not go up to Kyle and have this conversation. Yeah. Well, he wasn't going to go have that conversation with Kyle because Kyle was still on the racetrack. Well, yeah, but I'm saying... When I saw Justin was on pit road after the wreck, and I said, hey, let's just be, you know,

you did a good job, you kicked ass on those restarts, this sucks. Let's try to put it behind us. He was walking down pit road like he might go up to that pit box and climb up on it. And I wasn't sure if he was going to do that. Maybe he wasn't. But I'm like, that's probably not.

the optics that we need because the camera's going to get that. I'm like, we don't need this sort of riff between the 17 bunch that's at Hendrick and us over here. It ain't us and them. But is it fair for, what's fair for Justin or do, like, text Kyle or have a call him and, hey, he can do anything he wants. You know. I don't care.

I don't, I mean, if he wants to talk to him, talk to him. So behind closed doors, you don't care how he handles it. You just don't want the, you don't want the riffrat. And I don't blame you. No, I would. If I were him, I would say, hey, man, you know, you run over me to get by me at Bristol, knock me up to racetrack, unnecessary. And, and then this at Indy, like, I get you're trying to win, but like, I would take care of you. Why aren't you, what is, what is it that, of all the cars that you, you want to, you know, bust your ass underneath? I could get it if it's a not, you know, a different

that's not in the house, we're all in this house. Yeah. Right? Do you think the other group handles it the same way? If, you know, if the, like the, like that group, the 17 car over there, whatever, if Justin moves him just, I mean, say, just wrecks him for a win, you know, is that, is it going to be handled the same way? Hmm.

I don't care. I do shit the way I think it ought to be done. So, okay. I don't worry about how I think they're going to react or I'm not going to do, you know, know, I do, I do and think and make choices in my mind that I think are the right choices. And if I can, and I can sleep at night. And I'm not worried about, well, they might not act that way. If that happened on the, if the shoes on the other foot, how are they going to act?

Well, man, I'm not going to care. You know, I'm going to do what I knows right. I can go to sleep at night going, I made the decision that was right decision for me. And I'm moving down the road. And so that, and you know me. you know that about me. Yeah, I'm just saying if I'm Justin, I'm

having a hard time sleeping in night right now. I think that might be a little extreme. Like, can't sleep at night, TJ? I'm not saying it would bother me. I'm leaving the,

I'm leaving the breakyard race, which is still a preceding event, but like, he can have that conversation. I get it as a fan. I'm not saying it is, but like, as a fit,

I'd be mad. to go and do something, but. Look at you. Dale's perspective as an owner's going back and forth. I'd be mad. Apparently you wouldn't be.

I'm mad and sleeping at night are two different things. I'm not saying I would, I mean, maybe I was stretching it a little bit. The man's put his head at night down as a champion. That's what I said to him. I was like, dude. You won 25 times here. I was like, I know you want to win this race. Winning still is fun.

I was like, I know you want to win it in you want to win the 100, but dude, we carried that damn championship flag around a couple months ago. All this is just icing on the cake. This is just an extra credit. I'm still mad. I mean, I want him to do something, but I guess. as the owner and the driver to not make it public. The other thing too, man, it's like if you race in this industry,

you are going to have some real, disappointing days. Oh, yeah, absolutely. And this was one of them. Absolutely. Yeah, it sucked. I felt bad for it. And the other side of that conversation is,

while all of that is happening, the 88 is now in the lead. right and so yeah i don't know how i would have felt about it if the 88 ain't out on the racetrack and someone else just goes on and wins that race i'd probably not be really uh in a great mood but that's the it's part of it goes that's the that's the that's the what do they say that's racing no i'm just saying like that's the that's the thing that is weird about all this is like you know, you got so many cars on the racetrack, and you watch one crash, and you're like, oh,

damn, I'm heartbroken. Now I'm happy because my guy's in the lead, but I'm heartbroken. But I'm happy, but I'm heartbroken, but I'm happy. And then you see him on pit road, you got one guy sad, another guy mad, other guy happy. Yeah, you got all of it. I got my arm around, Justin.

Oh, it's all right, buddy. And then I'm like, hey, Larson, don't worry about it. And then I'm over here, and I'm like, hey, Connor, hell of the job, man. Did they add all of them? What do you do? It's this. You know, Chicago.

Connor, damn it, he didn't run you very smart there. That was how he run you. Good job, SVG. Cheers. Hell of a job doing it. You know, and so, I mean, going back to a championship race at Homestead, you know, seeing how brokenhearted Elliot Sadler was to lose that race. And me, I have to go up to him and say, I'm brokenhearted for you, man,

even though my other car is the champion. Right behind you is where I'm going to celebrate our championship. That's what makes the sport so weird. As soon as I leave you, I'm happy. I'm going to hold a championship trophy. I'm sad that you didn't get it. It's good you did that first instead of afterwards. You go see the sad part first.

You always do the sad part first. Being an owner, man. Being an owner of one car is real, simple. Yeah, you got one choice. You're there. You don't have to do a lot of. Multiple cars. throws a lot of, those some challenges in there. And man, there's some amazing people in our industry that do that very well, like Rick and Roger. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Yeah, they do. But I'm, I don't know, man. It was awesome. Awesome day. And Connor is, is a hell of a little, you know, hell of a driver. Professional across the board, does all the things, says all the thing.

man it'll be fun to keep watching him go for sure so he's uh it's always exciting seeing someone come up like him and winning in multiple forms and stuff too doing it so fast like it reminds this is what's what's interesting right now i think is is that you know i i relate it to i i could i would relate it to um an analogy around music so music you you have you have I've probably everybody's probably had the experience where they've discovered a song, right? That's really good that no one really knows yet. And you're like, this is a good song. And, you know, you don't know that it's going to blow up, but you're like, man, I really, really like this fucking song.

And it's, and you'll play it for a friend. They'll be like, man, he ain't heard that. And you're like, you ain't heard this? God, feel like this should be playing everywhere and everyone should know it. No, no, I don't know it. It's good. I like it. Thanks.

And then like two months later, you're sick of it because it's all you hear on the radio. Because now it's the biggest damn song in the country. And you're like, I fucking knew that way back, you know. And you're not really sick of it, but you're like, you know, all right, everybody loves this song now. It really blew up. I knew it would. I heard it before anyone else heard it around in my little circle. And that's kind of what this Connor Zilich thing feels like.

The idea is that we're all sitting here hearing the song for the first time and we're all going, damn, this is a good song. But really, the rest of the world has yet to really get a listen. It's getting out there, right? I mean, he's in the conversation, but y'all ain't seen nothing. Like if this kid keeps doing what he's doing and gets to the cup level and starts replicating some of the success? I mean...

But it's gonna... It's gonna get hard. The sky is the limit. But Dale's saying, though, is he's famous in the sport, but he could walk down many streets and not get noticed, but at his age,

if he continues on this path, he's going to be known around the country. He's going to be a household name. Household name. Marketable. Oh, my God. Part of it is wishful thinking because, you know,

we're all like, clamoring for that next NASCAR superstar that could take us to Saturday Night Live or, you know, get into the, get into the places where we don't get, right? And become that national, uh,

you know, superstar in, in, in all forms, right? Entertainment, music, start seeing them into music videos and all kinds of, right?

and we're all clamoring for that next person that drags us into the stratosphere with them, right, takes the whole sport into the mainstream again. And then we're, you know, that brings the sport back to the level of attendance that we're expecting and hoping for, right? And yes, a single driver can have that type of connection. And I hate to put the pressure on the kid, but I'd feel like that he's got a shot at it. And I feel like that right now we're all listening to this song going, damn, it's a good song, but the rest of the world ain't heard it yet.

Hey, Dale, I know Tuesdays are busy for you with the Dale Jr. Download. You also got your production meeting, so I took the liberty to order you some lunch. I hope you're okay with that. You bought me lunch? Well, yeah, of course. And ever since you got us Arby's the other day, I've been craving it. So I went and ordered it again for us. Well, I was thinking about the Arby's cheese steak all weekend, so I hope that's what's in the back.

Bingo, that's exactly what I got you. Side of curly fries, too. There we go. You were serious. Yeah, I got you some curly fries. Man, this is the ultimate meat and cheese combination for steak lovers like you and me. Thank you, man. I appreciate it.

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I figured that's pretty much home. That's what I was expecting. I watched the race there last year, you know, getting prepared for our broadcast. And, man, stage one, nothing happened. Stage one this year, we had the one car get crashed. Everybody's saving so much fuel that they're riding half throttle around the racetrack,

two seconds off the pace. You might have about three quarters of a second to a second a real fall off, but the rest of it's all just riding half throttle, saving fuel. And, you know, you're the leader. You want to keep the lead, so you're running hard enough to keep the guy behind you and second behind you. He's saving, and he's doing the same thing. Everybody's looking in the mirror, riding around,

trying to keep their spot, except for some of the guys in the back. And so every now and then, what somebody does is they go, man, I need a little track position. I'm going to gas it on this straightaway. You know?

Dog bomb. And so when they start doing that, they're coming up behind you, you're like, hmm, this guy's a little close. He ain't saving. What's he doing? You start fading left down the back straightaway to say,

hey, I don't want you passing me. You're not going to pass me here. And they get down in the corner, and they're still lifting early and saving. And McDowell, you know, I think McDowell in that particular straightaway decided that he might try to pass the one, and they end up going down the corner running over each other.

Pretty funny, honestly. But, you know, it's the, talking about the race and talking about the complaints around the car and all that, Listen, I tried to call the car out as much as I could during the broadcast about the next-gen car has good things. It also has some bad things. Of course. They all do.

One of the bad things is it is the worst car in the history of Ness car in terms of dirty air directly behind each other. Now, offset, it's not bad. It's not as bad. Not as bad. And maybe in some areas, the best car that NASCAR's ever had, or one of the best cars that NASCAR has ever had when the cars are away, you know, separated and there's multiple grooves. But at Indianapolis, there's one groove.

They ain't never going to be two grooves. That's a 90-degree turn. Never going to be two grooves. It's always going to be a one-grue track. So every race car that's ever been involved in NASCAR has. has had arrow issues, dirty air. Now, Mark Martin will tell you, somewhere around in the 80s,

maybe some of the early 90s, the cars created lift and all kinds of crazy things. So those cars would not be bad behind each other. You didn't want to lead. You were loose leading. And I drove the Xfinity car. I was able to feel the tail end to some of that arrow issues back in the early,

or the late 90s when I was driving an extended car. I was running at Michigan. Me and Matt Kenseth, knows the tail. And neither one of us wanted to lead. We had about the same speed, cars pretty even. And one would pass the other. And when you got the lead, you'd get so damn loose. You'd be like, you go on lead.

I'm too loose. And you get behind and Matt gets the lead. And he's up there and he run about five laps and he's fucking loose. And he's like, this you lead i'm too loose and so you know you get behind them and snug up a little bit and get perfect those are the days of the the golden era i guess of arrow tight arrow push all of you know all the arrow challenges that's there was a golden age there was a time there's a there's an equation there's a you know there's a formula for we got bubba calling in any minute i'm gonna get

into this and i'm gonna move on down the road this conversation but i wrote an email to NASCAR a long time ago. Mm-hmm. And it's, I cringe imagining that that email's actually out there in the ecosystem somewhere and it still exists. What still exists? But I got to tell you about it. But we'll talk about it after the Bubba interview.

Bubba's going to call in any minute. But man, listen, I didn't go to Indy thinking I was going to see a 90 on Jeff Gluck's pole. I didn't go to Indy thinking I'd even see a 70. I was hoping on a good day you see a 70. I don't care what freaking car you roll out to garage. 1990 Gen 4, Gen 5, whatever. And we kind of got what we got.

It was an entertaining result at the end. And it was exactly almost a carbon copy of the year before. Strategy. Yeah. Which is kind of what you expect when you go there. Every year, every year we go back to the racetrack with the next gen car and the teams have more science, more technology, more understanding the cars are going to get harder to pass and harder to pass and harder to pass the gas mileage the the strategies are going to get yeah we're going to fine tune them

deeper deeper and deep yeah like the shit the Penske was doing was next level yeah and um you know if the race doesn't have the the uh you know of course they had the tire issues but like if the race doesn't have the if the race doesn't have the you know the green white checker overtime you know their their fuel strategy

was the best yeah I got them track they gave away up they qualified like crap yeah and they gave away stage points yeah just uh they threw away stages all day for the chance of the win was Cendrick won a stage uh oh that's right he did

dude yeah they they uh they qualified like crap but they their strategy was really... They were willing to throw away some stage points of that. If people were... But the thing about there is, the lap time we run is so close to not many can pit, like the window for...

It's not like a Pocono where you can be... No, you know, it's like four seconds. Yeah, it's close. Yeah, pretty tight. Well, Bubba's here. I see him on his... I don't know where he is. Oh, he's got his trophy.

He's in his little game room or something. Where is he at? Game room, yeah, boys. Man, I don't see any... I don't see cool lights or nothing, man. No, LED. No LEDs or... Well, I can't have the headroom and all that stuff.

You know, you got to get it right. Yeah, but I mean, we ain't got no blues and greens and all that fun stuff in the background like all the other gamers and Twitchers. Man, I just moved in. Give me time, man. Give me time. Wait, you moved in. Damn, you're moving into houses. How many, what's the year you move into a new house?

Hell, no, I've been building this thing for the last three years. Okay. All right. Yeah. Come on. Give me some slack. We saw all the social media post as you guys. You got back to the house and had some fun, had the crew over.

Got to let loose a little bit. And I imagine, you know, I remember, you know, having some big moments in my career. And that Monday and Tuesday, golly, man, coming down off of that high and realizing, you know, I did that. You know, and I got this. And this is in my, I'll forever be, you know, forever. ever have this memory. It's such a great couple of days post win. Talk about that. Yeah, for sure. I'll say Amanda and I have been talking about it. We've had some get-togethers, people over at the house or whatever, maybe going out to Sonoma. Man, getting tore up and having

a hangover the next day is for the birds. Like, I had two beers and a glass of bourbon um Sunday after the race and I woke up 7 a.m. Beck's is crying ready to rip. He's ready to go on about his day. So, uh, that soberes you up real quick too. But man, I, I can't get past two more beers and then I'm, I'm, I'm ready for bed. So damn, I'm getting old. That sounds like an old man.

Yeah. Yeah. Um, those kids don't care. They do not care. He doesn't know that we just went to bed at 3 a.m. Um, but it was, uh, actually a really smooth day yesterday. obviously had our traditional deep reach meetings. A lot of people pumped to see us in Victory Lane,

getting us a win for 2311, and even at the JGR meeting, a lot of handshakes, congratulations there. So that was cool. Hasn't been too much. Today is a little bit more packed. I got a lot going on today. But I think for me, just, you know,

I was just sitting here texting with McLaughlin, Scott McLaughlin, and he's, you know, big indie guy. and I you're a massive history buff and so like winning the brickyard 400 is is awesome it's really really cool it's special but I think there's levels bigger levels to it for other people like for me I treated it's just another race for me right um and uh he was like has it sunk in yet and I was like yeah this is actually really cool I'm pumped that we're locked in the playoffs we got four or five races to just go have fun. And he was like, yeah, you want an indie though. And I'm like,

yeah, like it's awesome. So I don't mean to downplay it at all. But I've just been a guy that doesn't matter if it's Daytona, Bristol, Indy, San Diego. It is the same race to me. Every race is the same race. Yeah. And I feel like too, you know, you're right in the middle of a career and the way your mind has to work is kind of got to be kind of programmed that way. And you'll, you'll probably understand or better appreciate or take more stock in the size of the win or the enormity of winning at indie down the road, you know, right? When you're getting toward the book end of that career. And right now, yeah, you've got to be switched on and thinking about the next day and the next job

and the next responsibility and the next meeting and the next car you're going to drive and all that stuff. That's right. I remember being in that grind. And it ain't even nothing like when I was driving. The things y'all have to do now, good Lord. It's a lot. I couldn't do it. It's a lot.

But, you know, I saw you after the race. You came over to the desk for the post race for T&T. I'm curious, having never won at Indy, what's the rest of that day like? You know, there's other, there's more pictures. They do, they do a couple, they do a couple special things. What all did you experience? Yeah. So, I felt bad for Blaney because, you know, we share playing for half the season.

And, you know, it was probably two hours after the Nashville win that he had. Maybe it wasn't that long. I don't know. But it felt like it was forever after this one. So I started. Obviously, they're on the front stretch and then went up on stage, back the car up on the stage, platform up there, did our pictures there. Then we went back down to kiss the bricks. Did a lot of photos with that with team.

I went inside the media center, but not to do media center media. We did something else. And then we came back. We had what was really cool is Dave Rogers had organized all. three teams to stick around and get one massive group photo there on a start finish line on the bricks so I thought that was really cool everybody got to kiss the bricks then so that that was more pictures Denny came out with his family and then we went in the sour there was media on the front stretch there so we did that then we went inside and did media center media all the pressing questions. And I'm a guy that likes to talk a lot. And so I give elaborate answers.

And so I could control that time frame, but, you know, I didn't, I didn't care, you know, because it was my day. It was in my moment. And so, yeah. And then we went back down to do the winners interview that they do on pit road there after the races. so we did that and then we got home or then we went to the bus and headed to the plane so it was probably I don't know what time the race ended you have you guys have any time that ended because I know it was early was it okay well it's gonna be earlier nine yeah so I looked at before the rain it was going to be five it was going to be right around five o'clock when that race ended which I thought was amazing

yeah so yeah so yeah we got to the plane at 855 we were we were you know full speed ahead up in the air so so I felt like it was two and a half hours, maybe three hours. I'm not really sure. But it was a lot. And man, I'll tell you, that was the fastest adrenaline escape I've had, like standing on top of the car. I was like, yes, all right, awesome. All right, I'm tired.

Holy cow. And so that whole time, like, walking up on stage, you guys, I was just, I was like, all right, this foot goes in front of the other. This foot goes in front of the other. Like, let's just take it easy. I'm not going to be rushed to anything. I told them, for all the media stops, I am sitting in a chair. I need to sit down.

Yeah. So, but no, it was, it was good. It was awesome. There was a lot of fans after the race that were there and support. Man, it was really cool. So I was, I was pumped to see that. So you have been racing during the week, during the summer. Yeah.

Yeah. in your with your legends car, which has kind of been a lot of fun kind of to, to plug into that because SVG, McLaughlin and Kyle Busch, and there's like this little swell of folks that are kind of like, hey, man, let's go have some fun. What's the purpose behind doing that?

I kind of think I know why, but what would you say to people if they said, you know, how come you went back to do that? Yeah, so I went back last year to have some fun and we couldn't find our way. It was getting frustrating. So Harvick called me up and he was like, hey, come run with us.

It'll be better. And so this was right around, maybe a couple weeks before this time right now last year. And it was fun. Just being able to sit there and have conversations with Harvick and Jamie McMurray and everybody on that team. and just talk about life, you know, and it was cool. It was actually a nice refresher, and we just so happened to go race.

We're over there in the Arka Garage, so it's kind of out of the hustle and bustle, and you kind of got your own little space, but you'll have other kids walk over, run legend cars or vandos, and come hang out, take a picture and stuff. So it's fun, you know. This year, I thought we could get us a win. Tonight's the last night. And yeah, yeah, yeah. I had a frustrating round last week, and I felt like I wasn't making any progress.

I was frustrated with how Sundays were going, although we had just come off of a seventh place at Dover. And I was like, man, I'm done. I'm not going to run a last week. I know my schedule was a little bit busy before I won. And so I pulled the plug on running on tonight. but Saturday night, SVG and Scotty were texting. We were all texting each other.

And they were, so they had this, they had this bet that they made up. I don't know if you guys been paying attention to this, but it happened on week three. Oh yeah, week three, I qualified the worst of the three of us. And I pull in the garage and they were just cheering. And I was like, what happened?

They were like, you're buying us dinner. I'm like, what the hell happened here? They were like, the worst qualifier buys dinner. And I'm like, what about the previous two weeks? So I got thrown into that. And so now it's been a little fun competition. So I qualified bad last week. So I had to pay for SVG's dinner.

Actually, I think we ate at the track. So I got a free dinner that night. But anyways, Saturday night, we were texting. I think we may have been texting about dinner on Tuesday. What are we going to have? And I said, I'm out, boys. And they were pretty, I think genuinely. frustrated and disappointed that I wasn't going to do last race.

And I said, okay, here's the deal. I said, if we win on Sunday, I will come back and race. And then I'll send you a screenshot. I said, actually, when we win on Sunday, I will come back and race. I'm a man of my word. I'm going back to race. I text the legend car guys. I said, hey, if it's not too much, I'm a man of my word.

Get the car ready, please. And I'll be there Tuesday. But I have an event or I have something going on until 7.30 to night. So I'm starting shotgun on the field, which isn't much different than if I qualified. I usually qualify right there too. All about having fun. And here we are. Man.

I haven't drove a Legends car. I'm in 35 years probably. What, how, I just had my own curiosity, how different is it now versus when you started racing? Yeah. So, um, so no more cutting tires. Motors are water cooled now. those are the two biggest factors the tires what are we on we on Hoosiers yeah we're on Hoosiers

but yeah the no cut and thing is is different so everybody's it's straight up it's a it's kind of the luck of the draw because it's crazy how much stagger is the most important thing on these cars which we never really talked about in Legend Car Racing and so if you don't have the right set of stagger tires than you're kind of out on your own island.

Like the car is awful. And so it's a, that's been really challenging to pick up on. And it's easier for guys that run every week, right? They pick up on it right away. Like Heelan, he started finding his way the last couple weeks here. The big car, the transition between the two, like running the late model stuff. But going back to Legend car, you could definitely see it was messing with him. And so I had an advantage.

And then he's a harvick. He figured it out quick. and now he's won two of the last three, I think. So, yeah, so it's different. I miss the old cars. I miss how they drove, but it's all fun figuring it out. Man, I love that you do it. I think that, yeah, I think it's something that a lot of drivers at your level with as much responsibility.

I know y'all are busy at the cup level, but there's just so much work involved to be a cup driver. And the joy and the joy and the. reason you got involved in racing can get lost in sundays right in the work you have to do so it's pretty awesome you do that yeah thank you and i i looked at it as man when when we were doing it um you know back in oh four oh five uh kyle was running a little bit still then um but man it was it was the asphalt chili ball that's the best way to put it it was 10 weeks of just uh the best people in the country coming out to run and 300 400 plus car counts and I thought this was the most beneficial car that I ever races my career that got me ready for the bigger cars just because throttle control

and all this stuff and and it had taken a really deep dive and car counts were down and you know pros let's say 10 years ago the car counts were super down like we'd start with 14 and end with eight like it was bad and so I felt some sort of responsibility. Look, I have been the bad guy back in 0405. I was wrecking every weekend, fighting, you know, getting thrown out, whatever it was, racing hard. But now I feel like the elder statesman and feel some sort of responsibility. Like I tell people, go get a legend car, go run a legend car, you learn so much. And I'd love to see it back to what it was. I think there's still a lot of work to get there. But I think, like, look at

what Larson does. I mean, he's the prime example of going back and running the grassroots stuff and back to his dirt world and keeping that going. And I feel like, man, I'm trying to get back and do that same thing, but it is a lot of work for sure.

Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're doing it, man. Have a good night. Thank you. I appreciate it. Enjoy the next couple of weeks. You're going to have some fun, just kind of going to the racetrack and not worrying about nothing but winning the race. Holy cow, that's going to be amazing. I said, let's pit. on coming to the green and just try some different stuff here.

We ain't got to worry about it. Keep me on tires. Keep me on tires. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. It is nice. All right, man.

Yeah. See you, man. Thanks, guys. Peace. He's mentioned Kevin Harvick. People would not believe how many drivers that Kevin Harvick calls and offers advice to. I've heard, you know, talking to, I've talked to a couple other drivers, I guess, just by accident about, you know, struggling or trying to get their, you know, season going,

and Harvick's name comes up. And so, like, just to point out, I think Kevin's doing a lot of work behind the scenes that he won't talk about to, you know, when he sees, Like he just said, hey, Bubba come over here and run with us. This will be more fun. You try, you know, it'll help you personally. He's done that, you know, he's done that a lot. And no one will even know about some of the other things he's done for some of the drivers racing currently in the Cup Series. He likes to, he likes to mentor help offer advice.

I think that's cool that you have people like that in the background. But pretty awesome, pretty awesome to see Bubba get this win. I think I kind of got to know Bubba a little bit when he started racing. Obviously, he's racing Xfinity for Rausch, and he and Busher were having quite the battles. I remember one in particular, I think, at Dover, where they had some contact. But, you know, he was having, you know, a tough time finding, you know, stability, consistency.

You know, he seemed to be kind of struggling personally. And he publicly came out to talk. talk about how he was having a hard time managing, you know, the mental side of it. And I don't want to elaborate or make assumptions, but there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of Bubba comments and his own explanation and his own description of some of the challenges that he was facing mentally. And I kind of really relate to that. And he came on our show years ago and openly talked about it.

And so it was nice that he did that because I couldn't tell why or what, I guess, was the holdup. You know, what were the hurdles in front of him? You know, when you don't know somebody's going through something, you know, you can see them struggling professionally or trying to, you know, trying to do a job, right? And they're struggling to get the result they want. And you can't really see why, you can't really understand kind of why this ain't clicking or why they're having such a hard time with it and why they may have the reaction they have to the end result, you know, the frustration on their face.

And, um, and why they may say things they say in, in, in reaction to, to, to, to, a bad result or a frustrating result. And I'm glad that he talked about what he was dealing with internally because it helped you understand how he was reacting and why he was struggling in his racing, right, at times. You know, he went through a lot of things personally and found his path with his marriage, creating a family. And he's been able to put himself in a business. He's been able to put himself in a position, I think, at 2311 with Denny and Michael. It's a great fit. There's a lot of people around him that can help him.

People coming into his life inadvertently, like Kevin Harvick calling him up and saying, come race with us and him being able to go into that, just that little thing he did last year to go race ledges cars instead of doing it with, you know, by himself, he goes into Harvick's little program. And now he can talk about life. Now he can talk about. Yeah, it becomes more of a fun event for him. He's getting, you know, he's getting.

guidance and yeah and so you can see and i can see and have i have seen him get better control over the internal things going on and come to terms with some things that maybe he doesn't love about life and his experiences and you know it's just there's been there's uh it's it's been interesting to watch, you know, I think, and I'm glad you love to see the results. You love to see the results. He's put the work in. He deserves it. Yeah. And I mean, you know, there was some public things that happened, you know, in his, in his own personal experiences, his family and so forth that were tough. And so, and he's, you know, again, he's had some great friends. Bubba and Blaney are as close as ever. And I think Blaney has always sort of been that guy to put his arm around him

on those tough days, not just at the racetrack, right? In life, yeah, in life. So, you know, I think that's why this win was so popular among his peers and other people in the industry is because we all kind of know some of those stories about what he's dealt with and some of the struggles that he's dealt with off the racetrack.

And, you know, I think that's why a lot of people are glad to see him sort of coming into his own as a human being, right? Much not just the race car driver part. Do you see like a little bit of relief or anything with him now? Well, of course. I mean, you know, went in a big race like that. Yeah. I've been in those situations where you have a long, dry spell and everybody's talking

shit. People don't, you know, people are, that's when the hate, you know, that's when people that don't, you know, that think you're overrated, they think, come out and they're all like yep see he is he's overrated man i don't he's getting all this attention you know i heard it all through um parts of my career you know oh man you know dale's running 20th but that's all we're going to see on the broadcasts we're always going to have these dale updates about where he's running and he's running 20th um and so you know i remember all that i heard all that and it wears on you a little bit so when you finally

get back to victory lane you know i remember when i won at michigan i think it's 2012 we had had this long dry spell jimmy johnson comes into victor lane as is expected as he always would when his teammate won and i first thing i said when i saw him is i'm a winner man i can't believe it i mean i and not so much like i'm a winner man it was more like it was more like i am a winner yeah i am yeah i did i yeah And so, you know, that was, I had some pretty long dry spells in my career. But you always feel like you can, listen, no matter what, you don't really question you. You know, you think about it every now and then, man, is it really me? Nah, can't be me.

I'm fucking good. Yeah, yeah, definitely not me. I can drive a fucking car. You didn't forget. No. And it's, you know, the car. car isn't doing what it needs to do, right? It's a whole thing.

The car is a really big part. The car is the biggest part of it. But, you know, and you just have to kind of hang on to that belief that you can do it in the right circumstance. Not, I'm not saying the right race, things fall in the right way, boom, you fall into a win. I'm saying you get put with the right crew chief. You get guys like, you not only do the crew chief, you got to have a car. chief, the engineer, the crew that goes over the wall, all those people have to believe you can do it.

They have to believe you can do it. Otherwise, they're not going to push themselves. If one guy on that crew goes over that wall thinking, it doesn't matter how I do this job because we're not going to win today. That's not good. Because the driver can't drive. They go over there instead of doing a nine second stop or a 10 second stop, they do an 11 second stop.

You know, and it's just little things like that. That is contagious too. He starts. Yeah. He gets someone else. He does, yeah. Oh, yeah, he's bullseeing with the carrier, and the carrier gets that virus,

and the next guy gets it, the next thing you know. Snowballs. Yeah, so it's, yeah, I can kind of relate to some of the things that he's dealt with, but. I'll be curious, T.J. talking about the relief. Like, how does he race these next couple weeks? No longer on the bubble, as we've always talked about every year,

I feel like, does it free him up a little bit, like to just kind of be himself and not press to get certain points and stuff and just go out there and race. He can, yeah, I mean, that's, that's, I, he's sitting there probably, he's probably sitting there. He's relieved that he doesn't have to race all the way to Daytona. Daytona. And he was in Daytona, I think last year, sitting there, man, am I going to make it?

I'm not going to make it. And he's been in that situation many times. It's not fun. Nope. Where you, we got to, you got a, you got a, you got a, you got a point. to get, but you need, what if somebody's up there that can win, and you've got to be up there to try to defend that, right? Oh, you're in. Oh, wait, new leader. Oh, we got to beat him now. Go.

That's not fun. And he's probably very thankful that he's not got to worry about that anymore. But he's probably also, I know Bubba and like any other race car driver or anybody else that's competitive, he's probably going, damn, I wish I would have won this race months ago. I'd love to have all that stress back, right? Because you're, I won in Daytona and 14. I'm like, holy shit, I ain't got to worry about nothing.

What a year this is going to be, right? What a f***ing year this is going to be. It did make it a lot easier. Holy shit. And we got to not give a f*** all year. Yeah, it was nice. Yes. It was really nice.

And so, you know, we got to go be aggressive and call races, however the hell we wanted to call a damn race. That was fun. Yeah, it makes way easier. If you're not in that situation, you're probably not going to really understand it. That's right. But it's definitely difficult.

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I know a lot of people would complain about the car and they should, but, you know, they ain't no change in coming. They ain't no big change coming down the road. You know,

they, they built, you know, this is a, this is a race car that's got a lot of influence from EMSA and from

via supercar and, you know, all those things. And it's here to state. the diffuser and all those things that are creating the the the problems in terms i mean there's one moment in that race where eric jones is behind somebody going down into turn one and they he's almost to the left for quarter panel and they shut the door and he just took off up the racetrack

and he gets passed by byron in the next corner and that right there that is the crux of the next gen car. That is the issue. You don't have any weapons when you're behind somebody. The air going under the front of that car to get to the diffuser. If you shut that off,

you're f***. And that's why that car reacts the way it does versus anything we've ever had before because we never worried too much about underbody. You went, you know, there was not a diffuser.

You didn't have to worry about the air coming under the splitter. you try to get the splitter on the ground. And, you know, so that's what we're dealing with. And when you got a one groove racetrack, you can shut that air off to the car behind you all the time. And that's why, you know, we didn't see any passes for the lead. That's part of the car, but also part of the strategy.

Guys didn't want to pass. Guys needed to save fuel. I can't mash the gas pedal and go into first. Yeah, there was a lot. There was a lot more guys going harder than the beginning of that race. I thought, though. Like, it wasn't, the, the front part of that, the front part there was going harder than I expected. Like, even around where we were, like, around 12th, 13th in the beginning, the two cars, because I was looking at throttle traces, they were going hard.

Yeah, well, Briscoe was sitting there half throttle out in front leading the race. And that's how dirty the air is. You're running wide open in 12th or whatever, and the leader's half throttle, and he didn't have threat to be passed. So listen, the car, you know, is going to, the car is going to be this way at racetracks where there is not a very, very wide groove. It's one lane. And so that's why we struggle at short tracks, road courses, and places like Indie. Yeah, and these corners are unique there too. There's, like, you know, you get on a launch radio and you got a pretty sharp corner

and there's only one lane to really go through it. So it's kind of a unique place. It's like a road course. Definitely a fast road course. We see the same struggle, I guess, with the car. Sure, sure. Yeah. We see it the road courses because of the fact that a road course, one lane, one groove, one way through.

Yeah. We all go there. I mean, you go there just knowing that. Yeah. So. Well, it's hard to, it's frustrating. It's hard and frustrating a little bit. I mean, listen,

I know that that's what I'm going to get when I go to the racetrack at Indy and watch the race. So I can wrap my brain around it and go, man, I know that's how it's going to be. I know that's what we're going to see. But I'm still going to find something, I'm still going to be entertained.

I mean, at the end of the race, it was... There was a lot going on. Yeah. I mean, I was not walking. I was not, you know... You see the videos of... I wasn't falling asleep. I'm sitting there going,

oh, this is pretty interesting. interesting. I wonder what's going to happen here. Even the Xfinity cars had

this is probably one of the worst places for Xfinity cars era-wise as well. So that just tells you

in Xvenity cars are usually the better the better and it's a struggle in them cars there.

So this track makes it hard in general. Well when they went to listen you can't

you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube we already we know too much when we went

to a splitter a flat there's a flat board on the front of the Xfinity car and that board's been there since the COT. All right.

We went away from valences. We joke about it online and there's plenty of sweets from my history about team valence and all that stuff. What we mean is, is, you know, when you had a valence on a car and not a splitter, you know, teams could, teams could take different approaches to how they would travel the car. and the valence would wear off. It would go down in the corner and grind away. And different teams ended up in different places in terms of travel.

And so you had 40 cars on the racetrack and multiple different things going on with each car in terms of geometry, travel, and that would give you cars that were better in different areas of the racetrack. and the cars could interact and engage with each other differently and better in the corner. And so you could drive up to a guy's rear bumper, get him loose or whatever, and get under him and go by. And when we introduced the splitter, sealed, sealed, you got, now everybody is going to put the car on the deck,

and everybody's car is going to travel to the same spot because everybody's splitter is the same mounted on the car in the same place. So now we all know, all right, we're all going to get the splitter on the ground and every car in the field was identical. It made the air a lot worse too.

It was like a light switch. We went from everybody doing it a little differently. Everybody's got a little different front spring thing. You know, everybody had different things going. on in the front springs and shocks and everything else to try to get the car where they thought it needed to be. And now we all have a splitter where we go, yep, we've got to be on the ground with the splitter and that's that.

And so everybody was the same. And in that moment, in that very moment in around 2008, when we went full COT racing with a splitter on the car, we f***ed up. We f***ed up. And ever since then, we've sort of lived. than this world of the car travels. Yeah, the car travels to the limit. Everybody's going to travel a car to this point.

The one saving grace we have right now, I guess you could say with the next-gen car is that now everybody's traveling the back. In the same way, we used to travel the old cars. Now you need to get the back down, but you're not sure what's too low, what's too high. It's a bit of a science and a guy. guesswork and everybody's a little better than

some guys nail it. Some guys aren't quite there. There's different theories on it still. And so that's the one thing that's kind of given us the, oh man, they hit it today. They're good. Oh, the Fords are good. The Toyotas are great this weekend or, you know, because they're all working together. They're all using the same tools and information.

So, you know, you go to Indy and boom, all Toyota's qualify at front. And, you know, the other team, you know, the Fords are slow and the Chevys are okay. and then the next week it'll be a different group, right? And it's because of, you know, the variation of how, you know, how they set the car up. So that's kind of helping us with some comers and goals from week to week. Yeah. And just a little parody, I guess. But, you know, that splitter, we lath, we joked about it, but we were, you know, we were semi-joking,

but mostly serious about being team valence and how the, splitter when the splitter was introduced into NASCAR how it was a detriment to the product on the racetrack. And it still is a bit of, you know, it's problematic today, you know, you get the car, the splitter's going to limit to how, you know, limit you to a certain degree amount of travel and everybody knows they need to get it down there as tight as they can on the ground. And that's where we all live. We all are right there.

And with the valence, you had different people landing and ending up. in different places with the traveling and so forth. And it didn't tear up when you had the, when you had the, um, the valance, you didn't, when you slid through the grass or you did something. That's a whole other thing. You didn't rip the whole front of the car off. Yeah. So we don't really worry about that anymore.

The cup car, you know, when they go through the grass, you kind of just keep, you worry mostly about the rear diffuser. If it gets destroyed and ground off or whatever. A lot of places replaced the grass too, though, like Charlotte, like you don't have them places anymore. But at email I wrote. So. Uh-oh.

I was really bothered by the product on the racetrack at one point. Really fed up with it. I wrote an email to Steve O'Donnell, and I can't remember who all was on there, but it was Helton, O'Donnell, and a couple other people. I used the example of the 1980 World 600, the last 20 laps. And I tweeted about this, too.

I tweeted the replay of this race. And there's a YouTube clip and I retweeted that clip of the last 20 laps of the 600 from 1980. Benny Parsons and Dura Walter are battling for the lead. And they're by themselves. And yes, there's probably only four cars on the lead lap in that race. That's not the point. That's what Harvard, you know, when I sent this tweet out, this is probably in 1920 or 2018-19 or something like that. Harvard goes, oh, that's great.

What a great race. Only four cars on the LELAP. I'm like, that's not the point. The point is watch these two cars and how they can interact with each other. And he's like, oh, yeah, well, that is pretty cool. And so I sent this email and I said, y'all, you know, look at how these two cars can move around in proximity to each other all the way around the track. and how one gets the lead and the other gets it back. And, you know, when you got out front, you weren't, you weren't, and an advantage,

you were at a bit of a disadvantage. A little bit. Going back, and this goes back to Mark Martin talking about the cars creating lift and all types of things and how it wasn't easy to be the leader. It was hard. It was not an advantage. And so I sent this email and I wrote this, you know, this is probably long, paragraph to Helton and O'Donnell and those guys.

And it was foolish at the time to think that I was, it was going to make a difference. But I think this is around the time when we went to Indy with this really stupid tall spoiler and they basically put the Daytona package in Indian. They thought, man, this will create passing. Somehow, some way, we'll just put enough drag on them that they'll just drive by each other on straight away. And it didn't happen.

And then everybody was so frustrated wondering, what to do, right, to make the racing better at India. And we ended up leaving the Oval and going to the road course, which was frustrating in itself. But I wrote this email and I was like, look at how these cars can get right in each other's door and all right on each other's bumper and they can all over each other in the corner.

And you don't see anybody get bad out of shape or suffer from any kind of like arrow push or loose or tight. You know, the cars just can drive all over to top of each other. and why can't we, with everything we have technology-wise, take those two cars, there are still restored, you know, I had this money car low right here. Why can't we take these cars and put them in the wind tunnel or take the car Martin thinks was the best and put it in the wind tunnel and try to at least understand the ideology of the car and why it would be better, right?

And not that we're going to build this car and start racing it. But we need to know, what we need to know is, all right, what is the overall downforce? What's the drag? Where is the lift? What's the front? What's the rear? Why does all of that work together well? And if we can at least understand maybe, you know, just a theory.

And having answers to say, okay, here's why these cars could, here's why, here's why this guy could drive right to his back bumper and just hang there. And then stay in his ass, right, all the way through the corner and then just turn left off on exit and go by. Like, give me the answer to that in a technical term. I'm assuming that's probably already been done somewhere. Nope. And then, you know, and Mark Martin talking about lift and all those things. and gather all this data and say, hey, is there any chance we can apply some of the theory here to what we're doing or what we may do in the future? Yeah, what can you do to get to that?

We're not going to drive next gens for 20 years. There'll be another car. For sure. Right. Could we not start thinking about, all right, what does that next gen car look like and how can we apply some of the things we know about the past to try to figure out how to get this car? to react that way. And so a guy can drive right up to, right up somebody's trunk in the corner and not be bothered. As a driver, you want those in your toolbox to be able to use.

You want those that you want to be able to attack. Yeah. Look, you know, and I sound like an old head, you know, crying about the full season championship. I'm just asking somebody to take the knowledge from the past because we didn't have the tool. We didn't have the tools to be able to understand these cars from the 80s and from the 90s. We didn't have the tools we have today to truly extract the data and the arrow and the understanding. And now we might be able to sort of go, hey, that's why that works so well. And maybe there's some information there that we can apply to the future.

That's all I'm saying. Why wouldn't you want to do that? If everybody, if passed the eye test, if you watched those two cars in that 1980, 600 in the last 20 laps, you watched them two cars. You can't tell me that you would not love to see that in a modern form. Oh, I would love to see 10 guys, didn't have cars right there. And you can't just dismiss that and go, ah, you know, we can never have that again. You've got to look at that and go, hmm, what's the, what's the science? behind what I'm seeing here, and how can I take the knowledge of that and try to apply it to

the next opportunity in an attempt to make what we see every Sunday more entertaining, right? And so that's what I think we should be trying to do. But, you know, because... Did you get a response for the email? I don't think I did. But it's out there. It's there. belong somewhere and it's somewhere in the

I bet if O'Donnell hears this he'll produce it and it'll be embarrassing. Spam folder. Can we take your car to a wind tunnel and do it ourselves? Well, we need two of them. And, you know, I can't remember Mark was talking about Mark Martin was talking about one particular style of car that I think it was the

mid-80s. The cars would create lift and all that that's insane to imagine a car creating lift. And what a handful that must have been. Good Lord. And so you wouldn't be giving a shit about damn tires. We wouldn't talk tires. We wouldn't give a shit about a tire fall off where this and that another good year would be like, thank God. They get them damn cars to create some lift.

So that's that. We just make sure the tire don't come off, right? make sure the tire don't blow up Do you think like if you do get Is there Obviously there's a downside To having cars that do that

Is there is there like a Is there a downside like what is Does it get more dangerous for the drivers You know is there more chance of a car going over Is that play a role into it? I think that I think that NASCAR racing

Should be dangerous. Yeah. I mean, you know, it can still happen today, but like, do you think that's part of the reason why we're not having a package like that?

Because those cars back then when they flip in the mid-80s, they were. Yeah, I mean, we got roof flaps and all kinds of things that. And they didn't have that stuff then. And the cars get backwards,

you know. Yeah, I mean, that you would go, you might run in, what you might end up doing is getting down the road. If you did, say, say hypothetically, NASCAR goes,

Hell yeah, let's go, let's go. Let's go. Great email, Dale. Let's build a research team and go down this path and start trying to extract all this awesome information from the cars we raced in the 80s and the 90s. And what can we learn? And let's take that information. And you might get down the road and go, yep, what we learned is if we try to build a car like this and it spins out, it's slipping over every time. We, you know, what are we going to do then? You know, yeah, you're going to run, you're going to run into some. I think you would always, if you did do this exercise, you are going to run into, yeah, the reason why is, the reason why we can't do this particular thing or add this back is because it was bad in this,

in this situation, right? But doesn't that make the driver's race with, like, you knew, like, doesn't it make the driver's race more respectfully, kind of at times as well? Like, there's a whole, like, line of this stuff, Like, okay, well, yeah, I could drive it in that. I could put it in there, but I might be in a bad spot here. That's true.

Yeah. I mean, if you know that's, yeah. Like the blocking whenever. They do that now. They know, to your point, yes, they would adjust. If you change the way the car drove entirely and it was treacherous and bad in certain situations, they would go, they would learn that and they would avoid. If they do that now, they know, I can't follow this guy down into the corner at Charlotte.

because I need the f***er under my car, so I have to go where he isn't. So I can't run down in the corner behind him. That is not a option. Like even some of the blocking that's happening now, like you knew, like back then, you didn't block a big run like they block now because like at Daytona, whenever these big blocks are coming, I think Brad turned William Byron one time. And he said, you can't, like, these blocks aren't acceptable. Like, because he kind of came up in the time where you just didn't throw blocks like that

because they were, it was unsafe. And I think there's a, I think the racing would be more, I think the racing would be better, but it would also be more, you just wouldn't have the, I don't know, I just think it'd be better. Yeah. When you were leading the race at Talladega or Daytona, and you come down the back straightaway. So, 1979, Donnie blocks kale into the grass, they wreck. Big wreck. right

Bush clash 1980 Darrell blocks dad down the back straight away dad just goes to the outside

you know you and dad says something in the post race he's like yeah I didn't want

to do what happened in the 79 500 so I just went to the outside and

you know so you to your like drivers learn change evolve

see something oh that looked bad I don't want to do that for sure you know

I won't I won't put myself in that spot, but I guess my summary on all this is, number one, I think we should stay on the Oval at Indy. I'm glad we're back. For sure. I love it. I don't care how bad or boring the races are. We should never go, you know, we should always stay on the Oval.

Can the races get better? Yes. If I was NASCAR, I would, I would be trying to do a little science and research to try to figure out how I can actually make the car race better there. and they've been this is something that they've been trying to do forever it's the reason why we left the oval they were they were throwing the kitchen sink at this car the the previous version of the previous generation they were throwing everything at this car to try to make the thing race better because no one was

coming to the race to see it and I mean so I'm not to NASCAR's defense like they've They tried their ass off to figure out how to get the car, the cup car to race better at Indy. Yeah, they did. Right? I agree. But to your point, when you look at the historical races, you know, the cars, when we first started going there,

the cars could get to each other a little better. And as we got more sealed off, more, you know, as a splitter came in and we got the cars on the deck and everybody living in the same space and travel. you know, arrow become more and more and more important. It's harder and harder and harder to get to somebody in the corner. And the dirty air became tougher and tougher and tougher. And now the gap is getting bigger and bigger and bigger between, you know, the cars.

So, but hey, you know, I know all this and I go there still happy to see what I'm going to see. I'm still excited to go there. I know the first stage is going to be riding around and just trying to. I'm not a bunch of crazy shit. I was surprised we even had a rick. I thought it was humorous that we had a crash in the first stage. Because I was expecting it to be very difficult to broadcast because of the lack of action. I knew that stage two and stage three would become all right.

Yeah, it's going to take it's going to pick up. Yep, picking up. Getting ready to go down. Who's doing what? Who's pitting when? Every race is like this. Stage one is ho-hum. Stage two is a little better.

stage three is awesome. Every race. We've been stage racing for a while. I've been watching these races, and that's what I expect when I go to the racetrack. Stage one, going to be kind of okay. Stage two, a little better. Stage three is what I'm here for. It's always like that. I mean, almost every race, right?

I mean, that's kind of what you should go. You don't go there, especially the finish in the first stage. No. And now with like fuel mileage, they're running the race like they kind of run the Daytona and Taledegas where they're riding around half throttle and so forth trying to make sure that at the end of the race they're putting as minimal amount of fuel in as possible it's just going to get you know it's going to be what it is i'm not i'm not really complaining i'm just kind of like hey i'm stating the fact yeah i mean you know that going there

i'm not what it is yeah and i'm fine with it i wish it was different yeah but it's is what it is all right it's time for the line l ultimate racing collector it's time to select this month's Ultimate Racing Collector presented by Lionel Racing, the official die cast of NASCAR. This is the, is it? This is it.

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I see some Bubba Wallace. So they were big Richard Petty fans and they then inherited fandom for Bubba Wallace when he came through the program. It's a lot of your dad. I said Earnhardt's shit. Yeah. He said that he's.

He had a good amount of your stuff, but sold it so he could buy the racing sim set up. Make more room for... A sim? He sold my shit. All right. I see how he is. Man, he's got some stuff. Some of them glass cases are there.

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It might get over the top the next month. You never know, don't give up. A lot of folks tuning in, TJ, for Xfinity-ass junior segment. It's booming. So, Xfinity, we're promoting their Wi-Fi service. Xfinity has the mobile service, but also the Wi-Fi service. They also do streaming and all kinds of things, man. So anyways,

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Yeah. I have a record player that connects to the Wi-Fi. Oh, really, a record player. Yeah. It sends its signal of music to the speaker through Wi-Fi. All right, let's get to some questions from the fans. I saw a lot of this question from the Xfinity race. Should Austin Hill be suspended?

Yeah, I can't wait to see. I know. I know, me too. Yeah, we should be finding out within the next day of you, right? You have to. Oh, man. How do you die? I don't know.

I can't I don't know I wonder if so I wonder if NASCAR is going to We're live by the way Oh I know He's going to send them an email TJ

That's an inside joke For earlier in the show You know I think if you're right rear someone And all you get is a five lap penalty That you kind of keep your mouth shut And you keep on going Right

You kind of go all right I'll take my five laps. Darn. You don't say what he said. You don't say what you said. No. You don't say what he said. You got to feel lucky that the suspension wasn't much worse than that.

But also in that moment, right, when you're on the radio Cussing NASCAR, you've got to be thinking they're not done looking at this. Right? Oh, 100%. Yeah. And you don't want to push them towards. making that decision easier for them to give you steeper penalties. Yeah, I don't think you want to poke the bear. I mean, you just, the accident, that was a bad, that was a bad rack.

It was bad. It's pretty bad. Bad. So are you not going to answer it, Dale? T.J., you answered. You said yes. I don't see how you don't, because if you don't, if this is the precedent we're racing with going forward, I don't want to see that. Did they suspend Austin Cindrick for the right?

They didn't. They gave him a 50-point penalty. And I think they said because of. speed. Well, Indies. A 90 degree corner. Yeah, it's a dangerous place to do it. Go ahead.

Sorry. I can, I'll chime in whenever you guys are done. All right. I, my frustration, so should he be suspended? Yes. I think anybody that right hooks, anybody should be suspended. No question. The frustration is that they don't always do it.

And they judge by speed or what it. They shouldn't. They shouldn't judge about it. speed because now you got drivers going huh where to slow track i'm going right hook the shit out of this guy i'll be okay we're at a fast track can't right hook him today next week right hooking the guy because it's a slow track or we're at a slow corner that ain't the way it goes that ain't the way we should look at it so i listen and i not to pick on carson hosivar but he right hooks a guy IRP on the frustrated way in the truck race

last year, year before, whatever. Should have been a damn suspension. The Cendrick with the Ty Dillon. Cota. You were okay with it not being a suspension. I changed my mind. I've lived through that.

I just, I feel like it's, it's like, I just don't like to think about things. Just black and white. Yeah. If you do it, you're done. One plus one is two. We're done.

And I don't like the, I don't, I don't, I don't look, I don't think it's a great idea to get into the, well, it was this, it was that, it was slow, it was this track, it was this track. No, let's just say, man, right hooking is bad. It's against the code, you know? And, you know, now sometimes it's hard to tell, but this was an easy one.

this was an easy one. A reminder, if they do suspend him, he loses all playoff points. That's true. I thought you were going to... My fear is that NASCAR makes this rule, right? We're going to, you know, if you get suspended, you lose your playoff points. You're still eligible, but you don't take your playoff points and they're gone. They made that rule, I suppose, you know, to deter people from doing things that would get them suspended.

But here we are. here's a situation where we all feel like this is a valid suspension. And my fear is that they're now going to be afraid to pull that lever because of what it does to his playoff points. And Steve's, you know, me and Steve were kind of laughing about that because we're like, man, you know, this is kind of nasty. car this you know they make this rule and then when somebody pushes them to that ledge they get nervous about actually making the decision and you know because it's so detrimental to austin dillons playoffs austin hill austin hill's playoffs and so uh yeah i don't know that it's i just get a little nervous about how if i guess you know and naskar could even go so all right

We had, there was, I can't remember the exact example, but a couple months ago, somebody right, hooked somebody, or somebody did something intentional that everybody felt was intentional, felt it was clear cut, and they didn't react in the moment. And we waited until after the race to do something about it. And everybody, all the fan conversation around it was, why didn't you just do something then? It was clear and cut that there was an,

a intentional thing done. Why didn't you just penalize them in the moment, in the race? And Elton Sawyer was like, well, we like to look at it. We like, we don't want to, what if we penalize them and we learn later that it wasn't intentional? You know, we like to wait and see and get it all right. And so here they go. They see something.

They go five, five laps. That's a, so NASCAR has made the decision that they believe it was intentional, right? By choosing to penalizing five laps. So that's already decided. Will they get cold feet about a suspension? Because that's kind of been the precedent, right? The, you know, Chase Elliott. This is exactly the same as that.

Yep. That's the precedent. Maybe worse. You know, that's what they told me when I said the word, what was it? In Talladega? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I got the phone call.

Man, we're going to penalize you. I said, man, I said that happy. The other guys that got, you know, Sauter got penalized a couple weeks ago. He said it because he was mad. I said it when I was happy. Well, the precedent has been set. So I like to say this even today because that's what they said to me. It pissed me off.

I was like, well, the precedent has been set. So what will NASCAR get the cold feet and go, do we really want to take away his playoff points? Because this just compounding the penalty that we already gave him. in the middle of the race. Can we get away with saying what we did to him in the race was enough? You know? And they might. You don't know.

But Austin has, Austin, remember the, so Austin's had a couple things, right? Yeah. More than a couple. The deal with Cole Custer at Charlotte. This year, you know, bowling through people at Martinsville. You know, the thing that I would say is that his, he needs. to he needs to kind of dial it back because this guy he's got he's trying to get into the cup series i imagine right like everyone else he's trying to get up there right i would say yes he's not

doing himself any favors creating this sort of narrative or reputation around how you know the decisions he makes on the racetrack is all i'm saying so you know that's not conducive to what he what he's doing there, I guess, isn't conducive to what he's trying to achieve and where he's trying to go. I just don't see what part of that move deserved to get right hooked.

I mean, you're in the heat of the moment. He saved it, too. Well, Eric didn't. Austin Hill saved it. Like, he was going to continue his race. Yeah, he was fine. Yeah, and then... He just got him loose.

Yeah. Which is, that's what we talk about. We want guys to do that stuff, but, I mean, you can't have this. Eric said so. He's like, I had to go. I had a good enough car. I thought I could get up there and win, and the guys were driving away from us.

The 21 had nose damage. He was slowing us down. I had to get by him. He blocked me a couple times. I had, it's like, all right, you know, I don't have much choice. But I don't think there was something wrong with that. That's what you expect him to do.

Man, that's racing. Exactly. That's what we want. We're screaming for the guys to get to them. Like, if you're going to move somebody, you move them, and that's completely fair. You don't, you don't turn them.

You know, he didn't back Austin Hill into the wall. Yeah. He didn't kill. He didn't ruin his. race. He just got him up out of the groove. Austin's going to lose one, two spots. Austin would have done the same thing. Oh, yeah. That move is so far over the line. It's not even debatable. That is so far against the code. It's not even debatable. And what they've done in the past has been from suspension to nothing. So who knows where this is going to fall. Right. I mean, he could even, he could just

get slapped with fine and some points and then move on. Yeah. It'll be interesting for sure. This next question is coming from Carolyn, and they saw you posted before they even woke up yesterday, already at the racetrack, testing at Anderson. So how was that? It was hotter in hell. God, I'm even that early in the morning? 90 degrees by 930 in the morning. Were you fast? I felt like I was fast. I was the only one there, so I didn't go there anyway else. But I got Caden. So Caden, Quapel was there and Connor Hall. They both got in the car. And, um, It's my car, my seat, a little weird, you know, not comfortable, not their own stuff, but they were a little, they were just a bit off of my lap time.

So I feel like, dude, I felt like I was right in the ballpark. So that was the baseball car and we're just, you know, we need to, we just fire, we just went up there and ran, I don't know, from eight to 11 in the morning and then came home. It's only about two and a half hour drive. Not too bad. Yeah. Big weekend for Cars Tour. Yes, this weekend's a massive weekend for the Cars Tour. $50,000 to win late model stock race at Hickory.

$30,000 pro-late model race. I think those are the two biggest paying pro and late model stock races in the country. There may be some comparable events. I think obviously Martinsville's up there. And I'm sure the pros have. have some 20, 25, maybe another 30,000 to win race somewhere once a year. But, I mean, these are... This is a huge.

This is a huge weekend. This is the biggest weekend for the Cars Tour. That's it. You know, as far as person-wise, I think it's a pretty big deal. All right, everybody, I appreciate y'all tuning in. Ask Junior's always fun. I know y'all are, you know, glad to be able to be a part or, you know, engage in the show is we're making it every week.

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Try again. I saw some folks on the internet telling me not to quit, not to give up, even though we're not hitting these. We might need to adjust. They're hard to hit. We're close last two weeks. Yeah, so close. Maybe don't bet him as parlayes.

Yeah. Yeah, but what fun is that? Tim's you're the betting guy. Well, we missed to parley. Hamlin, obviously, wasn't the best Toyota. That was Bubba. I mean, Denny finished third. Yep.

Good job, Denny Bros. For shouting out Denny's third place result. Sorry, we didn't want to, we about miss that in this show. I just wouldn't make it known. We just about forgot to celebrate Denny's third place result at Indy. It's not our fault he wrecked in qualifying. Blaney. Who is the best Ford?

Priest? Priests. Larson. He was right there. Yeah. We got him right? Damn. Well, nobody would have assumed, I mean, I don't want to say nobody, but Priests is the best forward.

I think might have been Josh Barry in that spot there before we ran out of gas. We hit on Bell over Redick, Hamlin over Larson. We missed that one. Yeah, by one spot. Oh, damn. Remember he finished third? Yep. So we're now headed to...

Where are you at, Russell? I'm at your beach house, man. Thank you for having me. So we head to Iowa. Vegas has the favorites, and it's Larson and Hamlin at 450. Blaney and Bell at 550. Byron at 900.

Ooh. Russ, do you agree or disagree? Totally agree. Oh, yeah, totally agrees. course he does. Hamlin, Larsen Blaney. They won like 11 at the last 14 short track races.

Planey won there last year. Denny's been first and second this year. Those are the favorites. Yeah, I'm a little surprised actually that they have Larson even with Hamlin. You know, Larson's had a couple of good weeks. Everybody must feel like he's kind of back how quickly we forget.

the struggle throughout the summer. I'm always kind of amazed at that. We, we so, you know, Christopher Bell, for example, we, we, he's championship favorite, six weeks into the season, man, what a season this guy's having. And then he disappears and, you know, he'll come back and have a good top five run. And we'll be like, yeah, Christopher Bell, it's been an amazing year for him. So we do that so often in this series now. Now, Victor really likes Christopher Bell, though, this week.

Yeah. And also, like, you look at the NASCAR insights for like speed, passing, restarts. He's like one, two, and all of those. That's right. Yeah. So who has your attention, Tim's? I like Blaney a lot. Blaney and Byron.

I think Byron plus 900's good value, but Blaney was so fast here last year. It's tough. He was really fast, yeah. If I'm not mistaken, it's only one race we've had in the Cups here at Iowa, right? Very good. Philly only last year to go off. I know we can't count, we can't really look at Indy, but Blaney has not lost speed. Blaney's speed is actually even a little better than last year.

We just got a lot of DNFs, crashes, failures, things like that, that have muddied the water with Blaney and maybe have people hard, you know, struggling to trust what he might be able to accomplish. But I think Blaney's overall speed is actually just a tick better than what it was last year. so not a bad gamble to make I guess no I don't think I think he's gonna be really competitive this weekend are we leaving anyone out Tj Josh

I think Josh Barry here at Iowa Josh Barry he almost won the race I mean he's within with the four last year he did manor won the race yeah but dude they have been struggling I just think it's you know you got

somebody fast like with Blaney last year there got some notes to go off of go to a place where he's probably He needs a good run He's looking forward to going here I'm on the Josh wagon fan Really? I'm a fan of Josh

Oh yes You might not know But I also am a realist All right And it's been a rough stretch I mean ever since he won in Vegas It's kind of been rough He had a pretty good run going this weekend

He did have the fuel to do it But yeah I'd love to see him go up there and run I think he can run good Stenhouse ran Stenhouse put together Russell you believe this Believe the things he's saying This was one of his best runs last year

So I understand why he's saying that But I'm with you on He just hasn't put anything together this year This hell yeah I mean you got me you're swaying me Tj Because Josh is a short track If there is a track You know

If there's a track that fits Josh It's the old war out slick short track right and it's now I was a you know it's got a little bit of repave the corners I was intermediate I was a one you know Iowa to me falls in the little bit too big to be a short track

but it drives like one and you know I think you know you might you might be able to tell me I told you so when it's all said and done I feel like he can go out of the rare moments he's going to be looking forward to going here one of the rare times in the calendar year

mark it down that TJ may be right I can look at, I mean, Russell's, but Russell's just going to be like, oh, here's the Vegas Oz. This is what I'm going with. Yeah, he don't, he don't have the, oh, this guy is actually pretty good. Like, I don't know, he doesn't have the racer look to it. I think those Vegas people are pretty smart, though. Oh, yeah. Can I have a guy, I think they're very low on?

I can't take you seriously right now. Me? Yeah, you're like got like a fancy hotel pillow as a shirt on. It's very soft. Brian Priest is 65 to 1. I was going to mention him too. I think that's super low. I mean, he's a good equipment, and he's a good short track guy.

He's won here in the Xfinity series. Damn. That'd be crazy if he pulled a win out. I know if he'll win, but top 10, he'll have some good odds for top 10. He finds his way to that top 10. Yeah. We need to tell him this week that we need him to do good for us. That would be probably be illegal.

Right. Might be a little bit. Yeah. Hey, I'm going to go back. Run, hey, run in the top 10 for us. I'm going to tweet out. Make us a little money. I need that.

Can you do that for us? Can't do that. You can't? I don't, I mean, you can try. You can do whatever you want to do. He's got to pay the consequences. He can disregard it. Set him a note.

Dearest Ryan Priest. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how illegal is it if you? I don't want to find out. It's already starting bad. How are illegal is? I don't know.

They're investigating a lot of. be pitchers for throwing some bad pitches. I know, but you're not... I gotta go to the bathroom. Would they be getting investigated if they bet on themselves to throw 20 strikes and went out there and did it? Yes.

Yeah, probably. I mean, I mean, I don't know if I can get mad at a guy for betting on himself to win. I think they're betting on themselves to lose. That's the thing. But we're talking about Chris getting a top 10. I agree with you on that.

Yeah. I want you to do well. You do well for me. All right. We'll see how it goes. Hey, enjoy your time at the beach, Russell? Who'd you pick as your...

Did you do your... Oh, we haven't. We didn't do it. Yeah, I was just trying to get away with it. Not doing it. Why, let's just do it. All right, damn it. This will be a tough one.

Larson, Hamlin, Blaney. Yeah. We have chosen Larson, Hamlin, and Blaine. Yeah. I'm just kidding. I mean, I... No, let's mix it up.

All right. Let's do Bell instead of Hamlin. Let's do Bell. Yeah, let's do Val. Bell. Sorry, Denny, bros. Larson And

Priest Sure Yeah I like it He was the top four Two weeks in a row Yeah I like it

All right That's it Priest Bell Where he's Prec ain't gun to it He's raped Okay

Preas Bell Priest Bell And Larson He's just so hesitant On the priest's All right All right, it's time for the white flag. The Teardown was live on YouTube and Twitter following the race.

Door bumper clear dropped on Monday. And Action's Detrimandal dropped on Monday, Denny. Yet again had to tell us how difficult it was to lose it. But he was the winning car owner, so that was pretty cool. My interview with Ryan Priest drops on Wednesday. Herman Strader, Speed Street, also out on Wednesday. another episode of Bless Your Heart comes out on Thursday. And again, we mentioned the ZMAX Cars Tour,

throwback classic at Hickory is this weekend. The biggest night in pavement, late model history, $50,000 to win late model stock, $30,000 to win pro late model. It's going to be awesome. We'll see you tomorrow.