The Dale Jr. Download - What's Next for North Wilkesboro?
Episode Date: May 20, 2025Dale Earnhardt Jr. is back in the studio after the NASCAR All-Star race for a new episode of Dirty Air. He joins co-host TJ Majors to chat about the race weekend at North Wilkesboro and all the latest... storylines in the racing world:Dale is prepping for the broadcast boothCARS Tour at North Wilkesboro recapFuture races at North WilkesboroReimagining the Clash and the All-Star raceJoey Logano and Christopher Bell beefWas the Promoter’s Caution a success?Layne Riggs and Corey Heim’s Truck dust-upChristopher Bell calls in to chat about winning the All-Star Race and his thoughts on the Coke 600.During the Ask Jr. portion of the episode, listeners asked about:Morgan Wallen referencing Dale Sr.The milk shower at the Indianapolis 500Favorite Coke 600 memoriesGo to hot dog and hamburger toppings Dirty Mo Media is launching a new e-commerce merch line! They’ve got some awesome Dale Jr. Download merch on the site. Visit shop.dirtymomedia.com to check out all the new stuff.And for more content check out our YouTube page: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMediaFanDuel disclaimer: Must be 21+ and present in select states (for Kansas, in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino) or 18+ and present in D.C. First online real money wager only. $5 first deposit required. Bonus issued as nonwithdrawable bonus bets which expire 7 days after receipt. Restrictions apply. See terms at sportsbook.fanduel.com. Gambling Problem? Call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit FanDuel.com/RG. Call 1-888-789-7777 or visit ccpg.org/chat in Connecticut, or visit mdgamblinghelp.org in Maryland. Hope is here. Visit GamblingHelpLineMA.org or call (800) 327-5050 for 24/7 support in Massachusetts, or call 1-877-8HOPE-NY or text HOPENY in New York. Check out Dirty Mo Media on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DirtyMoMedia Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Yeah, the slime.
I've never been slimed.
Kind of wish that would have happened,
but that ship is sailed.
Nobody's sliming an old, 50-year-old man.
All right?
We're not doing it just to do it.
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I'm still sour, man, that I wasn't your best man at your wedding.
When will you start mentally, like, getting ready for the race?
Can you not tell I'm mentally ready?
Travis has some dumb ideas, but I agree with them on this one.
It doesn't sound like you know what you're talking about.
You haven't scratched the surface yet there, boy.
I mean, what the fuck do you won't?
I just think the last few lapsed.
It was just like stop every time.
You're picky.
This ain't walking in and have it your way, motherfucker.
All right?
This ain't Burger King.
Travis is like, I'm wrapping up.
They all have no fun around here.
Hey, everybody.
It's Dale Jr. back again for another episode of the Dale Jr. download.
And it's Tuesday, so episode of Dirty.
year with my good friend TJ Majors. What's up? How's it going? Man, it's going pretty good.
Do you have a good weekend? I had a pretty good weekend. Yeah. Didn't end the way I wanted to,
but it's all right. It's a fun weekend. Well, let me ask you, man. So everything's based off
of performance on the racetrack. That's whether you have a good weekend or not. I remember living
that life. Yeah, it's a very performance base sport. So yes, it does matter. So what happened
to y'all. I mean, y'all qualified on the pole,
ran pretty good, but then, like,
not to mean, not being
a smart, there were other teams that had some odd,
you know, results
after some solid performances, some good
laps in the race. But, you know,
what was the, what was the struggle?
I mean, honestly, the first,
it looks like that second set of tires or whatever, didn't really.
We took two. And that's what
hurt us. Damn, that. Who thought
that was a good idea? Well, the lap times
weren't the other, and the heat races weren't really.
Did anybody else take two and make it work?
One other car and I don't, no, two never, two did not work.
Everybody made two work.
No, we didn't, see, we made in the heat race, we stayed out and held them off with four tires.
They had four tires and held them off.
So that's something I think that, if you had never, this is one thing, one of the many, many things in NASCAR that surprised it out of me.
And if you'd never been around, you know, if you'd never drove a car or, you know, if you'd never drove a car or,
I guess if you've never drove a car or really truly
worked on one, you wouldn't really
experience this, but two tires can
your car up. Oh, yeah.
Fuck your car up. It doesn't have the grip either, so.
Well, you would think that...
It drives different. Well, you would think if you're out there
running around, you got used tires, you come down pit road,
and if you put two on, four on, whatever, it's just going to be a little better.
Two's good. Four is better? No, sir.
Sometimes you could put two tires on and slow your car down.
The two tires traditionally tighten a car up.
You know, there's a, you know, so there's a reason for that, I'm sure.
But two tires usually make the car tighter.
And if your car's, you know, balance is kind of neutral, then it makes the balance bad, makes it balance tight.
And so sometimes, I will say this.
Anytime a crew chiefs ever said we're doing two tires, I'm super apprehensive.
Like how the car is going to fire off on the next restart because.
Traditionally, I'd say 75% of the time,
I don't love the car after that.
I've never really loved driving a car on two tires
as far as turning and balance.
Yeah, and you feel like you're a disadvantage too
because if it depends on your favorite,
you could be the buffer car with two tires
and that's not fun.
Yeah, well, I just always been surprised.
I was always kind of surprised by that phenomenon
in racing how two tires can sometimes,
like, you'd almost wish you'd never change.
you'd rather have not changed tires than put two new ones on the right how is that yeah right right i mean
i mean there's been plenty i bet y'all would have probably been like hell i'd be might as well not
have changed tires couldn't have been any worse yeah no i mean yeah right we could have been the same yeah
right i mean there's been many times where i'm like this is terrible yeah i mean might you know it'd
been better off just the left the old ones on there it was driving better i think we were hoping for a few
more cars to have have a couple row buffer rows you know to put two on and i think if we had those
we might have been out
the first part of the race went
exactly how we wanted it to
we didn't want
we wanted to
I mean before the college
came out with the two
and the one
we were starting to pull away
from Legano
yeah
because he had wore his stuff out
and that's exactly
how we wanted it to go
but yeah
then we just got behind
and we ran just
and run inside the top 10
and yeah
we're gonna get into the
um
the all star race a little bit more
but first thing I wanted to do
at the top of the show
uh was
as Mitch and a friend of ours
Brad Arnold
lead singer through doors down
um
just told everyone
a couple weeks ago
that he's battling cancer.
And I just wanted to make mention that because we've been friends with Brad for a long time.
I remember meeting him.
I think the very first time I met him was at Tremont Music Factory.
They were playing that night.
And we had an opportunity to chat before the show.
And then not knowing that he would be on our race cars,
He would be a friend that would be at my 30th and 40th birthday parties.
I mean, we met similarly the way you might get a chance to meet any band that you happen to be seeing at a show,
you know, whether through a meet and greed or whatever.
And, yeah, we struck up a friendship that's lasted for all these years.
And I broke my heart to hear that he's going through that.
and I think not only because he's a good friend,
but because he is such a good guy.
Good dude.
Ghalay, he's the nicest guy.
And, you know, he's worked really hard to be a good person
and to put himself in a good place.
And I just really had always appreciated him
because he, you know, never kind of let the success they had
change him that much.
He's still, you know, pretty grounded as an individual and I always really appreciate that about him.
Anyways, we're hoping Brad can work hard and battle this illness,
and he's going to have tons of support for sure to work through this.
So we're thinking about him.
Just wanted to say that at the top of the show.
Getting back to NASCAR, obviously the Fox part of the state,
season is over this week.
We're getting ready for the World 600, and Amazon is coming into the broadcasting portion of
the season.
Amazon's going to kick off their five races.
Amazon's never done NASCAR before.
I got hired to be part of that booth.
I'm excited about it.
We got a great team, I think, that we're going to have, as far as pre-race and
so forth, I think we're going to have some pretty interesting content for people to enjoy.
and I think there'll be some ways that I don't, you know, I say this carefully because I don't think that, you know, one TV partner's better than the other and I don't think you would ever have that conversation publicly.
But I know that Amazon will bring some new ideas, just like anybody, you know, you get a new crew chief or whatever, you know, they come in.
They say, hey, man, it's something I've been doing on my cars.
Let's try it on your car.
Let's see what you think.
and Amazon, if you looked at any of their NFL coverage,
they got some neat bells and whistles,
some stuff on the screen that's different, fun,
new ways to deliver the information and data that they have,
and there's so much information coming off of the next-gen car
that Amazon is going to try to use it in unique ways.
And they're using Steve, I would say, most importantly,
to help them understand how to display this information.
because a lot of it's like, you know, straight up dad off the race car.
So I think, yeah, I think you'll have fun and be interested and be surprised, happy to see what's going to happen.
I'm anxious to get in the booth, get to work.
Been a long time since I've actually called a cup race.
I've been practicing a little bit.
I got to do the flow pro-late model race at Orange County,
and then I did the late model or the pro-late model race again at Wilkesboro.
also did the late model stock race with Harvick and Eric,
which was also on Flow and Fox Sports One.
So that was neat to work with the Fox Sports Group a little bit briefly.
Everybody there in the Fox TV compound was extremely nice.
Just a great group of people that wanted to do a good job.
And I thought we had a lot of fun with the Cars tour events over at Wilkesboro.
Went off.
Well, can't wait to see what the number is.
Harvick's going to tell me.
How long to you get that?
I don't know when we'll get that information.
I do know what we did with Flo, and it was comparable to our past weeks at Wilkesboro.
So, yeah, I'm excited to see what that number might be and whether that might create some, you know, some opportunities down the road.
But anyways, it's, it was a good weekend for the Cars tour, I thought.
We had a couple accidents early in the race,
and that was mainly due because of the cup rubber being put down on the track.
I've known this for all of my life,
but anytime, especially on the cup side,
if you go to the racetrack like New Hampshire, for example,
the modifiers are practicing.
For sure.
We would go out there.
Sometimes we wouldn't even practice for a little while.
You wait for a little while.
Wouldn't practice for 10 minutes.
The rubber that the mods would put down on the track would be slick and grimy
when our tires would go out there on that and slide around.
And the first probably 10 minutes of practice,
we're actually just kind of taking that rubber
and either replacing it or moving it off the racetrack,
and then the track gets good.
It was a crossover.
So we would avoid it.
I think that that was kind of a similar situation for the cars tour
at the drop of the green flag.
They went down into term one,
and it had no grip comparable to what they were feeling in practice.
and they weren't really ready for that.
We had a couple accidents.
But either way, hey, we got going and had a pretty...
Is that something that, you know, they need to learn going forward?
No, that's not a situation they're going to be in all the time.
Yeah.
So I wouldn't be too concerned about it.
At least they know now next time if they're ever...
You know, we'll go back to Wilkesboro.
We're in the same situation.
It might happen there.
But we're not really running companion events with Goodyear Radials anywhere else.
So I would say that, you know,
You know, the ARCA tire and all that stuff probably wouldn't bother you that bad because it's kind of similar.
The Goodyear rubber and the Continental or the Hoosier rubber is what conflicts with each other.
Yeah, they do they just don't mix.
Our tires on our late models and pros and even on the ARCA stuff in the mods is gumball rubber.
It lays on the track a unique way.
You know, the radial tire is a harder compound, and it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it, it,
it puts rubber down in a different way as well.
And when you try to run one on top of the other,
it's just a weird feeling, a unique feeling.
But anyways, I wanted to say we had a great,
you know, we had a great weekend in the cars tour
and dominant victory by landing in the 29 car.
But just, you know, outside of that,
we had some really good racing in the back.
and I think, or in the middle of the pack even,
and we had some kind of cool stories of some people
overcoming some of those adversities early in the race,
but Landl Lewis was not really,
nobody really had much, nobody had much for him.
Yeah.
So we'll see, he's won two in a row,
and now seems to be maybe the favorite for the championship.
Already.
Yeah, Connor Hall, our driver at Junior Sports,
had a couple of rough weeks.
Yeah, we started off hot.
Yeah, we did.
But we had some, they, so he was,
driving through the pack up to the third or so, fourth,
and a bolt sheared off on the exhaust.
The exhausts come off the car and is dragging the ground.
And so they had to come down to pit road and get that work on.
That, you know, just couldn't never really...
What shears a bolt like that off?
Dragging the track, or...
They could say that it was loose and they didn't nut and bolt the car properly before the race
and the bolt just kind of out.
But he door slammed the 22, Loftlin.
Yeah.
The door slammed him pretty hard two or three times.
And I know that the exhaust is sleeved out at the door.
So it can take some of that abuse.
But it might have hit that door and drove that exhaust in and sheared that bolt off.
That's what I think happened.
But we'll never really know for sure.
That's probably more likely what happened.
I thought it was great for our cars to be on the main stage at Wilkesboro in front of the industry.
We had a great crowd, especially Friday night with everything else going on at the racetrack with qualifying and so forth.
So, yeah, we had a good crowd and a good weekend for the cars tour.
And I think the next race for them is at Langley.
Registration is already open for cars to get there.
We tend to have a relatively smaller car count for Langley because it's such a far, long trip.
It's about six, eight hours for our teams.
but, you know, if we get 26, 28 cars, I'll be thrilled with that.
For this weekend, talk about prime taking over the booth.
I wanted to make sure y'all knew that practice and qualifying is Saturday at 1.30 on prime.
And then obviously the races at 6 o'clock Sunday on prime.
And this will be interesting because I'm so used to doing all of this, you know, Xfinity or especially Xfinity race and stuff.
to be interesting
being able to basically
just kind of watch
the Xfinity race
and do whatever I want to do.
Is there things
that you look for
now differently
than what you used to
just watching a race
now that you broadcast
more?
Like is there things
that you be like
okay,
I want to see if this,
you know,
what they do during this time
of the race?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, is there different things
you look for now?
No,
when I'm,
I don't know if this
it's interesting at all,
but when I'm watching a race,
so I'm going to go back,
and I've never broadcast a Charlotte race, never, right?
So I've got folders full and full of notes from 2018, 19, 20,
all the way up until today of all of the races that I broadcast.
So I can dig those out and in those notes will be all of the unique things about that specific track,
a bump in this corner, something weird about this or whatever, right?
the pit box, you know, if there's a dominant pit box or whatever.
I've got all this information that I've just wrote down over the years,
and every year I'd get the same note out and rewrite it
and add everything or anything new that happened over that weekend.
And so the note just keeps growing year after year after year.
And there's no notes for Charlotte.
So what I'll need to do is go watch the last couple of 600s
and sit there and watch those 600s and write down,
create like a new note, right?
And if I'm watching, I watch the race and go, oh man, that's neat.
I'm going to write that down.
I'll talk about that.
That's pretty neat.
I think that's fascinating or I think that's important or I think that's something worth
mentioning or it could happen in the race.
So let me be ready.
And so I'll have like a one or two page personal note.
And as we're doing the broadcast, I did this.
I did this.
Everybody does this different.
but I wrote, I had a one-page note for the Cars Tour Late Model Stock Race,
and it was probably about five or six stories.
And it's about a paragraph of information.
And when I would use it, I put a check next to it.
All right, got that one in, got that bit information in there.
And it might be, I had something I wanted to say about Laney Bice,
and she crashed early in the race, so didn't use it.
marked it off page um the carson and uh kaden quoppel were racing against each other they got crashed
early and and so i didn't use that i was going to tell their story a little bit but um you know so there's
stuff on there that i'm ready to use if it presents this opportunity to use it i love kind of knowing
the nuances of the racetrack talk because i'm the driver analyst so i need to be able to say okay
drivers are finding this to be a challenge.
Drivers will have to think about this,
you know, this bump, this hole, this slick spot,
how the transitions are funky or how the car can get loose in this position or whatever.
And so I need to have all that kind of written down.
And the further removed you get from driving a race car at that racetrack,
the easier it is to forget about those little nuances
and things that the drivers are thinking about are dealing with.
And so I just have it all written in a note in front of me
to remind my puts me back in the car puts me puts me reminds me of the the the way you know what
it's like to drive the racetrack and like that so and it's even tougher with the next gen because
I've never raced the next gen so the next gen acts different than the cars that I raised in traffic
inside each other where you know however you're positioned on the car around you yeah the air
and so you know I got to I have to all constantly try to talk to drivers about that to
try to understand that those
phenomenons more and more
to be able to talk about them.
So you got to work a lot.
Yeah. I mean, it's not
yeah. You don't just, yeah.
You don't show up on Sundays. Don't just show up and just
start talking. Not
to be a smart. I mean, you don't.
You got to be prepared.
Over-prepared. I like to over-prepared. I like
to feel like I'm over-prepared. I don't know. Some people
probably work harder than I do, but
I like to feel like I'm more than ready.
Right. But
I got, also,
only got five races with Amazon and five with TNT, 10 race stretch.
We would love to hit the ground.
Like, we would love to start this Sunday hitting on all cylinders,
but it's likely going to be clunky.
There'll be some things that didn't feel awesome.
I don't know if you'll notice it at home.
You might.
A lot of times, man, we fuck up and you don't even know it.
But anyways, I'm looking forward to getting back in the booth.
I hope that our broadcast are as good.
as I think they'll be,
and I hope people will enjoy
what Amazon brings to the table.
And as well as TNT in another
five or six weeks.
Well, I'm going to be able to watch your first ones,
because I won't be there at the track, remember.
So I'm going to critique the heck out of you.
Okay.
I'm going to be texting.
Do you want to tell people,
you're just going to say you're not going to be?
Well, okay, so I have a little, since Darlington.
You don't have to be specific.
Yeah, I miss Darlington.
You can't just say, man, I'm not going to be at the track.
I got a little proceed.
procedure coming up this weekend. I'll be out for probably about a month.
Well, hey, we're wishing that that goes well and that you bounce back.
Yeah.
Like we know you will.
I hope.
Yep.
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Let's dive into,
there's a lot of conversation
around the Xfinity series
racing at Wilkesboro.
I mean, there's not much to that.
I've always said,
I said something about
if they put a race there,
I'll run it.
I said that years ago.
I said that when Wilkesboro came back.
I said it every year.
That's not a new bit of information.
I think Xfinity,
you know,
I'd rather have an Xfinity race there
than Martinsville.
That shit we're doing at Martinsville is for the birds.
I don't love taking my cars over there and watching them get destroyed
and watching our drivers destroy each other.
So I'd love them to not go to Martin'sville.
I was waiting for you to end it.
And go to Wilkesboro.
That'd be better.
Martinsville can be a good race, though.
Yeah, prove it.
I don't know.
A lot of things can be good.
I don't think so.
Not in the Xfinity series.
It could be?
No.
They can't do it.
I have zero confidence.
It could be if the drivers took it, you know, into their hands.
I have zero confidence that our expedite drivers can have a good entertaining race at Martinsville.
Maybe there was one, and I've just forgotten it because of so much destruction has happened.
It's washed it from my memory.
For every good one, there's like five bad ones.
I don't know.
Maybe more, I don't know.
Well, look, I like Martinsville.
I love Martinsville.
The stage breaks, I think, are killing Martinsville.
because the runs are so short.
It makes people drive like idiots.
And there's no,
there's no like comers and goers,
there's no tire fall off,
there's no struggle on drive.
Everybody, you know,
I think the stages are 40 laps or something.
It's ridiculous.
So what makes you think the stages
at North Wilkesboro
are going to create any different racing?
Well, I don't think they can just,
they can run into each other,
Wilkesboro.
It's not that they won't.
Do you see the end of the truck race?
Yeah, I did.
I mean, I think that would happen in XS.
I thought that was pretty entertaining.
I think it would be the same in an Xfinity race.
At Xfinity, we've got 12 cars on fire smoking sitting on the front straightaway after every race, T.J.
Not after every.
Are you really going to go?
I just think you, I think when cautions, restarts are going to create that type of racing at a short track no matter what in the lower series, I think.
well look
I um if if if if if the
affinity series goes to
Wilkesboro and they just destroy
everybody on the front straightaway coming to the checker
then then I'll say T.J. was right
I mean if you get a green white checker you tell me
the Xfini guys aren't going to wreck at North Wilkesboro
they might but it might be like one or two
getting you know put in a fence not the whole field
like it just the way I don't know man
you've seen it
you've seen the the finishes at Martinsville
are nasty, they're ugly.
Yeah.
The front stretch is narrow and it's hard.
I mean, it is definitely a...
I just think with multiple grooves in the lanes,
they can get away from each other a little bit.
That will be contact.
Somebody might get turned around,
but there's places to go and avoid.
Yeah.
You know, you don't have the whole field piling in,
wide-ass open.
Turn one or two is a little wider
than the front stretch at Martinsville.
Wow.
Because that's where they normally wrecked.
Yeah.
Would you want it to,
uh,
like spending to race part of the weekend
or make it a stand on?
I don't get it.
Oh, I think.
I think Exfittance would be great at Wilkesboro.
Stay-alone.
No, I'm saying stand-down.
I don't care.
I don't care for it.
Race with Cup or don't race with Cup.
Race and race Trucks Friday, Xfinity, Saturday.
Why does it matter?
Why does it matter?
Well, I was going to ask you if it's standalone.
What about competitive cautions?
I don't understand.
What?
If you're not going to have the pit crews.
Oh, yeah.
Sure.
How about just run the race and run the amount of laughs and don't stop it?
I know, I know y'all, you know, listen, I know, I know, I'm not saying the car's
does everything perfect and everything right.
But the method, so we don't have live pit stops.
We don't have, you know, we're not going to have our teams competing on pit road.
So we have, I mean, if you, we're going to have, you know,
we're going to have yellows and they'll be determined by a lap count.
So you don't really know before the race starts when the yellow happens.
A natural yellow resets that clock.
So that's kind of what I wish they would have done in an all-star race.
It wouldn't have been quite as gimmicky as the club.
as the competition promoters yellow.
I can't say whatever we want.
So, um,
anyhow,
you could do the Xfinity race like that.
If it's 250 laps,
300 laps,
whatever you're going to do,
um,
you could say that the lap counts 75.
Okay.
And if there's a natural yellow,
under that particular,
uh,
inside of 75 laps,
if there's a natural yellow,
the clock resets.
It's,
you know,
you only get,
that yellow if you go 75 straight green flag laps.
If a college comes out, you come down pit road, you exit pit road in the same position.
So like if you come down pit road, you go to the back of the field, but you don't gain or
lose a spot on pit road.
And then you probably wouldn't be counting laps under yellow, right?
So maybe the race is actually shorter.
So you've got, you know, it's a, you know, 200 lap race, green flag laps counted only.
I don't know.
There's all kinds of ways you could do.
it to make it where the teams wouldn't have to compete on pit road you just would
only thing you would be competing against is you know getting your car fixed and
not missing the green flag coming back out right you'll be a little hustle if your car's
damaged which it might get damaged in that race you'll be hustling to repair a car
but otherwise putting tires on it and everything else you can you can do all that in your own time
and the drivers showcase their abilities and not have pit crews mess things up yeah yeah yeah
I think so.
I mean, and you're in the Xfinity series, they limit tires.
So there's not as much of a race as often on pit road changing tires.
I don't know.
I don't know how it might work.
What about a...
I think even with what I'm saying, there's still a potential for them to be competing
on pit road, right, changing tires.
I don't know.
We'd have to figure that out.
But I think it's doable.
Because you definitely don't want the teams having to pay to fly the guys,
back and forth. That was something that always was a big deal, an extra expense. It makes it
financially bad for the Xfinity teams. Yeah, logistically challenging too. What about a 400 lap
cup race? No stage rakes. Full field. You can still pay the points at your stages, but keep going.
Natural cautions only. Yeah. We never did do that at the over.
We did it.
We tried it at the road courses and we went right back to putting stage cautions back in.
Honestly, man, that's the only, I hate to risk that not working for your first points race at Wilkesboro.
How does it not work though?
What makes it not work?
Just somebody whooping everybody or?
I don't, I mean, it might just, yeah.
What's wrong with that, though?
This is only about what I want to see.
or what you want to see?
For sure.
Right.
Who cares about what anybody thinks?
What do you want to see?
Right?
And so I'll be honest.
I like the stage cautions
because they bunch to field up,
give me a restart,
and I get to see some action
in a situation where there may be a dull race happening.
Fair enough.
I can admit that.
But sometimes I think that the stages are too short.
and that's where I don't really love them in trucks in Xfinity.
It's short track.
That's terrible in trucks.
Yes.
You don't even get going.
And they run,
they got,
it's like a little 35 lap or 40 lap sprint.
They run the fuck over each other and it's,
it makes it ugly.
Yeah.
But in the cup stuff,
you know,
you can go,
you'll go a hundred laps.
I don't even,
I don't,
they don't bother me at all at Bristol.
The runs,
the stages are long enough.
They are,
right?
That we get to see people,
you know,
handle.
and go, their cars go away, they hold some people up.
We get to see a little bit of that.
Hell, we saw it in the All-Star race this past weekend,
and that was, that had, you know, some cautions at lap 100
and another one 100 laps later or whatever.
So we had natural yellows.
And I just think that if you're going to take a cup race to Wilkesboro
that you don't take any risks or chances,
let the race kind of go and be with the protocols we have in place in terms of stage caution and so forth,
just to make sure you don't screw up the very first points race back, right?
That's understandable.
I mean, it could work out, T.J., where if you didn't throw the stage caution, it could work out and be awesome.
Maybe that's something you do down the road if you really get that confidence up, do it.
But are you willing to take that risk on the first points race back for Wiltsboro?
So what do you run for laps?
Wilkesboro tried for three decades to get back.
Get back.
Let's not take any fucking unnecessary risk with it.
What do you run for laps then?
What do you think is a good, like, 400 lap race?
I think it's a 400 lap race.
And I think your stages could be...
125.
125.
Yeah.
125, 150?
Well, we'd be 125 and 250 and then you have 150 to the end, which is pretty good.
Yeah.
I think it's fine.
125, 125, 150.
There you go.
There's your race.
And the last stage would probably have a, maybe not have a pit stop.
Man, they'd be sliding all over at the end of that.
They would.
Oh, it'd be awesome.
Oh, yeah.
And lap traffic.
I think you'd be busting your ass at 125.
Did the 99 blow to, blew it right front in the race?
Do you know why he blew that right front?
I don't know why.
They run over something?
I don't know if he ran over something or maybe a fang quit working or something.
I'm not sure.
Did it pop a bead?
I'm not sure.
Because that was, that freaked me out.
I was like, oh, maybe the right, maybe we're cording tires.
Yeah, I don't think we had, no, I don't think so.
Yeah, y'all didn't have any tire issues.
No.
Because they got, they ran that real soft tire, which I thought performed really good.
Yeah, I thought was awesome.
Yeah, I want them, they keep saying, you know, go softer, go softer, go softer.
The falloff was good in the cup race.
Yeah, I'm even filing a little bit more.
I mean, it was good.
I think so.
Yep, you can get more.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So do you want to remove a race or what do you want, how do you, how do you?
make this a points race?
There's some folks out there
that think that the All-Star race is not necessary.
That, to me,
is not entirely...
Like, to make the All-Star race just disappear,
seems like a bit of a mistake.
Why?
You never won one.
Do you want something that...
You know, I got a trophy on my shelf,
and you're going to make that
meaningless by making that race obsolete.
If you do away with the All-Star race,
all of those amazing finishes, the 87 race,
the one hot night.
Gone.
Junk.
Throw it in the fucking bin back here in the back of the archives.
Those aren't gone.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, you're going to look at,
when are you going to,
when are you,
When are you ever going to celebrate those highlights to a race that you deem-
Yeah, you're never going to play them again.
To a race you deemed useless and one you didn't need.
You can still celebrate them.
When will you do that?
Yeah, when are you going to celebrate?
It's not a thing anymore.
When are you going to bring it up?
If you didn't want the race to continue, when are you ever going to celebrate its history?
Okay, so we, like, that's your reason to not move forward with, like...
I think that you got to fix...
You know, you've got a race that could be fun and something that people get excited about.
We just experienced that this past weekend.
So then what race do you get rid of to make this a points-paying race to keep the All-Star?
I mean, there's plenty of options.
There's a lot of places with two dates that don't maybe need two dates.
For sure.
Kansas, for example, is not selling out.
It's a great race.
So we can get rid of a great race?
Listen, Fontana, I know it's not here anymore.
Why'd we get rid of Fontana memories?
Yeah, I know.
We lost them all.
They're gone.
They are.
Yep.
Yeah.
Nobody gives, nobody, you know, we're not continuing the legacy there anymore.
I think that, honestly, the All-Star race could continue.
I would be okay with some way that we kind of,
of combine the clash in the All-Star race.
So the clash to me, the, I'm so tired of saying this.
The clash should be poll winners only.
I don't give a who else.
I don't want anyone else in it.
Pole winners only.
But that's never going to happen.
We're never going back to that.
It's gone.
Ship is sailed.
I could scream it at the front doors of NASCAR headquarters for days.
Not going to happen.
The All-Star race should be winners only, right?
Do you like the open?
I do like the open.
I think it's exciting.
I wish they would go back to the stricter sort of, you know,
stricter requirements
for both the clash and the
Austro race, but again, I could go to the doors
of the NASCAR headquarters and
scream at the top of my lungs for a week
and it ain't going to do any damn
bit of good.
But maybe
since there's this, every time the
clash comes around, there's this tiny
group of folks that are going, well are we doing this for?
And there's even people
that own these race cars
and drive them that don't want to go
to the clash.
and compete.
I'm wasting their time.
Then you have this all-star race,
and there's a small bit of a group of people
that think that the race should just go away.
It's not fun anymore.
It's only million dollars.
Yep.
Not fun anymore.
Not worth it.
Why are we doing this?
Now, we had a great weekend at Wilkesboro.
I think a lot of people would definitely love to repeat.
Take both of those, right?
And combine them.
Let's celebrate the, let's celebrate the drivers
that have won.
races. The criteria could be
race winners and past champions.
You could have up to the last
five or ten years.
Get you about 20 cars in a field.
You could have your open where a couple guys can race their way in
and you can do your fan boat where your popular driver is always going to be in the race.
23 cars. 23 cars. Go to Bowman Gray.
Go where the f*** you want to go.
and we do this in January right after the new year to sort of,
it's a bit like a, hey, everybody, we're back.
All season's over, get ready.
And take all the money that you're spending on both of those events
and then put it into one pot, all the effort,
and then you can take that purse and go from one to two to maybe three million dollars.
You need to pay enough money that they will wreck their money,
mother to win it. That's what it needs, that's what a million dollars used to do.
It did, yes. That's what a half, it was 200,000, it was half a million, and boy, they were
destroying each other for it. Ross Chassan would have wrecked Lugano and Bell for that.
Yeah, well, he's a throwback, right? Ross Chastain is no different than the guys that raced in the
80s and the 90s that would have, you know, wrecked each other for $10,000 halfway money.
So that's what I like Ross. So the
You take these two races that nobody really seems to know exactly what to do with.
And you combine it.
You put all the money you can into it to say that's your coming out party every single year.
Where you're like, all right, everybody, NASCAR's back.
And then we go race our season.
Right.
You come off of that race.
Daytona.
And you go to Daytona or wherever you want to go.
You can call it the All-Star Clash.
There you go.
Love it.
Can we go ahead and just get some practice and random draw qualifying put back in, too,
to the season?
Can we just do that too?
That'd be cool.
I would love practice to come back.
Random draw qualifying.
Can we do that?
Practice will be back one day.
One day we're going to wake up from this nightmare and go, oh, that was actually good.
That actually helped us.
I agree.
That actually drove storylines.
That actually engaged fans.
That actually got people interested in the race.
weekend and who was who was developing into a contender or a favorite for that race yeah we're going to
wake up one day and and implement practice again because it uh it definitely needs to be back in there
what else you won't i want random draw qualifying back all right random draw qualifying i like that one
i thought it mixed it up i agree and it didn't keep the guy here here all the time because when
you start on the front you run the fastest lap i know yep i'm with you on the one tj i think too i mean i don't
somebody's having to do all that math, right?
Oh, I'm sure it's computer-based now, though.
Well, I'm just saying, somebody has to turn it on.
You relieve either the person or the computer of all that stress.
Just have somebody out there on pit road pulling a ping pong ball.
It's okay.
That's how we did it.
That's exactly how it used to go.
You'd walk over in the garage and walk over and draw a pill.
Did you know that?
It's how we did it.
It was how they did.
Use it for content.
Like, it'd be great.
That's storylines.
Oh, yeah.
Where's you draw?
I got a bad draw.
Yeah.
That's how he do it in dirt, right?
They still draw and...
Oh, yeah.
It's fucking awesome.
You draw, then you got...
Yeah, for sure.
A guy gets a bad drawl.
That's just fete.
It's it.
That's it, yes.
And now he's got to come, overcome...
Yeah, good storyline.
I think the...
Storyline gone.
The way they do it now just makes it too easy for the fastest cars to stay on top all the time.
Yeah.
And it's not something that really is working itself into the conversation
in terms of prepping the week, building up the week.
I don't ever hear him going, oh, man, do you, you know,
Denny had this and this happen,
and now he's got to qualify, he's got a bad draw or a bad qualify.
I was going to say that, but I was scared.
I just don't think it's actually helping us,
how we're doing it now, it's not really like adding to the...
I liked random.
Yeah, me too.
I liked random a lot.
Mix it up.
I'm sure there's some people that,
will tell us why we went away from that though
I guess Joe Lugano
got out of the car after the
All-Star race and said that he was
annoyed with how he was raced by Seabell
apparently he's now walked that stuff back
Legano told NBC that how Bell drove him
wasn't as bad as I thought it was
there you go I'm sure in the car it felt a lot worse
probably did
well apparently because he got out of the car
and said those things immediately
He was pretty mad.
So he must have thought he was really done wrong.
But then, yeah, you get out from a 40,000 foot view and watch it, and you go, okay,
it's for a million dollars.
It was really clean for a million dollars, too.
It was clean.
Like super clean.
Christopher Bell's not a dirty driver?
Has anybody ever seen Christopher Bell do anything like suspect?
No.
I can't say I have, I think that's kind of, it's one of the nice guys.
I don't you, I wish you to have a little, yeah.
Adam Stevens got out and said that it was amazing how similar that Christopher Bell reminds him a lot of Kyle Bush in terms of his prep and his dedication and his hard work.
I thought that was kind of a neat compliment.
But Christopher Bell just had the better car and had to muscle him his way by, which we threw, we put them in an atmosphere where.
muscling by somebody's what we wanted.
Yeah, we created this.
Yeah, we put them at a racetrack, multiple groove,
million bucks, oh, you know, the soft tire,
all of the things.
Like if he drove, if there was a pass that was clean
at the end of that race for the win,
I would have been disappointed.
That was cleaner than I wanted to be already.
I know.
There wasn't enough fireworks.
No.
You had no tires holding off tires.
That's what we want.
And it was super clean,
to be honest with you.
I think Ross thought Bell was going to go
up there and rough up Laganon maybe then he could take advantage of it.
I did notice Ross.
I think he kept letting Christopher back in on the top a little bit.
I think because he wanted them to get into each other.
Joey gets out and says that stuff and holy shit, everybody went after him.
Like nobody really.
Because it was an asinine comment to say.
In the world of social media, which is I know a tip of the iceberg, but still,
everybody was
taken aback
even Christopherville
when they told him in the
he was surprised
he was like really
he was like
oh he was really
surprised
that Joey felt the way he felt
yeah
I've got to be glad
that Joey does this
does it make it okay now
that Joey walked them back
I don't know
I don't think it matters
on how Joey operates
going forward though
I just feel
like the I still have a problem with Joey having that an instant reaction even though he walks it back a day later I appreciate that you know he went and washed it whatever and he goes all right it wasn't that bad for him to have the instant reaction he had still is an irk making sense yeah yes but it's good because this is what we want guy he just lost a million bucks of course he's going to be pissed I would just yeah but he could say I'm pissed I lost a million bucks yeah I mean I agree
Not,
Hey, he raced me like a
It sounds like he was making excuses
Because then he also, Marcus Smith,
I need to talk with him.
I'm like,
they made it seem like Marcus
had the caution thrown to screw over Joey.
Like, no.
Well, I don't know.
Let's talk about that.
The promoter's caution.
Yeah, not a lot of people
are real happy with that either.
I think more bothered by how it went down,
not so much did it happen.
We all knew it was coming,
but we all didn't want it to be.
it didn't need to become the star of the show
or it didn't need to become a character in the show, right?
The promoter's caution should have been no more than
it should have felt and resembled a stage caution.
Caution comes out, oh, there's your promoters yellow.
Okay, let's see what happens.
I wanted more of a surprise.
I don't feel like it was much of a surprise.
I didn't care about it surprising me.
I didn't give a shit when they threw that flag.
I really didn't care.
But I didn't need, I didn't need somebody in the flag stand and I didn't need the
pomp and circumstance of it.
I thought it should have felt, I thought it should have been a caution thrown like any other
yellow.
And caution comes out, all right, there's your promoters yellow.
We told you that was coming.
It's possible that this was going to happen.
Here it is.
Now tell me, you know, what this means for Joey and what this means for the drivers.
But it becomes this, you know, it become.
this silliness that wasn't necessary.
We had an amazing race going on.
And the race still was good.
We still had a good finish.
But it took up too much bandwidth.
Yeah, too much talk about it kind of before and at,
like the buildup to it was too much, I think.
I don't know.
I mean, I, you know, I think the track was trying to figure out a way to
make it enjoyable.
for the fans and just kind of missed the target.
Like, I was his thing is, I wasn't there, so maybe it worked for the people in terms?
Yeah, I don't know that either.
Maybe that's a good question for somebody that was there in person.
Did it come?
But they showed it on TV, though, right?
Yeah, but, TJ, what we, how.
I didn't see that part on TV.
I just, I'm not sure.
They did.
Okay.
To Travis's point, how we viewed it from television is one thing, but how somebody was actually,
who, some of,
sitting in the stands behind the flagman, right, as this is going on, how did that feel?
Was it as hokey and cheesy as it felt on TV?
You know, so, and I don't know.
I will say this, too, like if I was in the TV truck, I would have not shown the flagman.
They kept showing Michael, right?
Yeah.
That's what I'm saying.
all that.
I would have just been like, yeah, I don't,
push the button.
I don't want to show, I'm not showing this.
Now, when he starts waving the flag, I might cut to him,
here he is, waving the flag quick, then back to the cars.
But the caution itself didn't need to be dressed up and presented in such a way as,
as a key part of the cast.
It should have, it should have flew as under the radar as it could have.
and to your point t j let the racing shine which racing was shining you know the racing was shining
all night long then we had this goofy moment that felt felt goofy flag falls down on the track all that
and then we got back to some good racing great racing yeah what'd you think of staying out
it's a bad move hell it ended up not working out i think they wanted they were hoping that
there'd be more people that stayed out with them like two or three more just enough to to to make
it a little more difficult for the 20.
You need a couple of cars like Ross or somebody that's just going to be there
and race the heck out of you to.
Well, Ross was one of them, but he didn't have enough.
You need more.
People will give Joey and his team a hard time for not pitting.
And oh, man, that was the obvious choice was to come down pit road.
The tire, from what I've been told, does not slow down due to increased wear.
So that tire lost speed because of heat.
Yeah.
And so it's kind of similar to our tires of the cars tour, especially on tracks like this.
You'll haul ass, go out there and run 50, 60 laps.
You'll lose a half a second, maybe a second.
Caution comes out, tires cool down.
They fire right back off within a tenth or two of their best laps.
And then they get hot and they slow down as the temperature goes up.
And then they can, you know, they cool,
off and they can fire back off again.
And I think that, you know, that was what they were gambling on.
It's like, hey, man, do you take a chance and give up even three or four spots for tires?
Or do you think being in clean air, being in the lead car, that you can do what you,
with a wide track, hard to pass on the bottom.
You know, Joey Lugano, one of the hardest guys to pass, I honestly felt like that he was
still going to win that race.
I did.
It looked like it for a little bit.
I thought the choice to stay out was a bold,
one, it was not going to be easy, but I still had a lot of confidence that Joey was going to win.
If it isn't Joey Legano, who's been pretty dominant for the entire race, dominated this exact same race last year.
If it's not him, then I think you're coming down pit road.
I don't have confidence for anyone else.
But due to the fact that it was Joey, their performance last year, how they ran throughout the day or throughout the night.
Yeah, I didn't have a problem with him standing out.
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Lane Riggs, Corey Hime in the Truck Series.
Yeah.
Hey, before we move on to that, there's another beef in the cup series.
Oh, I forgot about that one.
Yeah.
Zane?
Zane and Ty Dillon.
I didn't even see what started this.
Well, I saw some in-car from a post on Twitter that just showed a little hard racing.
Nothing too crazy.
But maybe there's been something's going on for weeks.
that's the only thing I can assume.
Ty Dillon is doing a good job this year in that 10.
I'm impressed by a colleague as a whole.
They have improved over last year.
Both of those cars were awful last year.
Ty's had some really good runs.
This year, they're popping off and showing up here and there.
The thing with Ty is he's like a, he will pester the shit of you, you know.
and, you know, the way he drives, I don't want, I mean this in, I mean this in the nicest way.
The way he races you is so annoying.
It's almost a bit like Ross.
You know, he just won't roll over.
And, you know, he's going to drive down in the corner and use you up a little bit if he needs to.
He's not going to be apologetic about it.
And he's just, he's just, he will hassle you.
And I mean that as a compliment, you know.
I think that that's, I think that works for him more often than not.
They pesterers and pesteres and just won't stop trying to fucking get by you, right?
And, and you're, in your mind, you're thinking, it's Ty Dillon.
I don't, maybe there's a lot of guys out there that don't truly appreciate,
his ability, right, or his stature, or he, you don't belong in front of me.
You don't, you, I don't belong by, I don't belong behind you.
You know, there's a lot of that ego going on out there.
And so, that's what's happening, right, in this whole thing.
It's like, man, if you, you know, I don't, I don't, I don't belong behind you.
And, uh, you're just going to, you know, Ty Dillon's going to go down in the corner and
hassle me and and
race shit out of me and
hold me up
and hold up my progress.
Costs me an opportunity to get by the three
guys I think I should be in front of in front of us.
You know?
And I don't give a shit about that.
And so he's a
He ain't trying to be out.
He's trying to, he's trying to prove
I belong here.
Y'all ain't getting rid of me this easy.
Lane Riggs, Corey Hime.
Corey Hime.
is in a pretty good position to win this truck race.
We had a late caution.
Lane Riggs drove down on the inside into turn one,
runs him to the very, very, very top groove,
out of the groove, into the dirt.
Corey Hymn spun out in the marbles.
And Lane lost the lead in all of that to his teammate,
Chandler Smith and Chandler wins the race.
I feel like that Lane played right into my conversation.
from Kansas.
He did.
He backed right back into it.
Yeah.
And, you know, he went down in the corner
underneath Hosevar
and just, you know,
kind of drove straight up the track
tried into him.
drove it in there hard enough.
Almost wrecked them both.
Got loose.
Had a lot of time to go,
yep, going to hit him.
Gonna wreck us.
Better lift.
You know,
it would have,
I don't know.
I don't, you know,
I will say
he didn't run Corey
into the
fence.
But dang, man, I mean, he did put him in the marbles.
Yeah, there was a slick spot there.
Corey had every right to be mad.
If this was his first incident.
Corey, yeah.
It wouldn't be an issue.
Corey came to him and said, you're driving like a fucking idiot.
You drive like a little.
And if you don't change somebody, I'm going to help.
I'm going to take care of it.
Lane was standing there drinking his water out of his straw.
And he saw Corey Hyam coming.
Yeah.
It's been a while.
And he said to his.
guy, here comes Corey Hime.
And then Corey gets there and Corey says,
you know, whatever he says.
Whatever he was going to say, yeah.
And boy, but Lane Riggs,
listen, I give Lane Riggs a little shit
because I think,
I think Lane could have avoided Kansas.
I just didn't love, like I don't mind door banging.
I don't mind guys getting loose up underneath.
But he drove across the track
to hit the guy on the left for a quarter panel.
And I just,
I thought that was a little aggressive.
This was short track.
racing and
a little
more.
I don't think it was
more, I think Kansas was worse for me.
I don't know.
I do, man.
Kansas is a big old track and he drove across the track
to hit him into left for a quarter panel.
That was a, that was a...
I mean, he spun this guy out.
I know, but he took a shot at Kansas
that he was not going to make.
It was a not a well, it wasn't a high...
There was no success
out of that for him in any way.
But at Wilkesboro,
I feel like that that could have worked out in his favor.
That, you know, that might have been a winning move.
Even though it was a little bit dirty, I still kind of, it's what I asked for.
It's what I won't.
I mean, he did not fence him.
He did run him into the marbles, but he didn't just make him.
It didn't destroy him.
Yeah, he didn't destroy him and force him out of the gas.
He didn't put him in a situation where Corey Himes like, I got a lift or I'm hitting the wall here.
but Corey had every right to be angry
but Lane
this is the part that I was glad
Lane said right
instead of going oh I didn't mean to do that
all you know we'll talk about it oh we'll figure it out
or Lane said I don't give a fuck about nobody but my team
I'm glad he owned it because that's the way he races
I do appreciate owning it I know I did I'm like all right
So now that I know that
And I know that he has a self
It showed me he has a self-awareness to know
That you know
Now when I watch him race
I see Kansas a little bit differently
I see Wilkesboro a little bit differently
He told us that's how he's going to do it
So that makes it okay
Doesn't have to love it
But I can I now know what to expect
Now if Kansas happens
I'm not like what the fuck
You know what he's thinking.
Damn, that's stupid.
Why do he do that?
Now I can go, no, man, he told me.
He don't get a shit about nobody, but him and his truck and his team.
He's out.
He's out.
He is out for himself, selfish.
I mean, to be great, to be good at racing, to be a good race car driver, you've got to be selfish.
So if he continues on this path, what makes it successful or not successful?
You know, what does he have to do to be successful?
Obviously, just probably he's got to win races.
He's got to win.
He's got to win.
You got to back this up.
He's got to win that race this past weekend.
You know, I, um,
he didn't have,
he didn't really have a chance to win Kansas
because he wasn't,
he didn't never really get a position on Hosevar to be able to make a pass.
His hope was,
man,
will hit him in the quarter panel and hopefully he hits a wall and I get to go by.
But,
which isn't a,
not a,
not a,
not a recipe for success.
Not usually.
But this weekend,
he,
had position and maybe could have, you know, done things a little differently to actually get
the win.
So, yeah, I think.
How do you think he wins the race this weekend?
Race of through one and two, then use him up a little bit in three and four, like just wash
him up?
I think what he, what he, he put all is, he put everything into that move and turn one.
And I think he could have, he could have maybe made a corner, made a corner and then tried
all of that, you know, the last resort down in three or four, put him in the marbles down there.
And maybe he beats Chandler to the finish line.
Better chance, I think, of doing three and four.
Yeah.
And I mean, it's easy for us to sit here and say that.
But I agree.
He, look, he said what we all needed to hear, I don't care about anybody but my team and my truck.
And he ain't, he ain't out here to be friends or make buddies.
don't expect any favors on the racetrack from him.
But yeah, going forward, if he starts stacking the wins,
then he'll get to where he wants to go.
Is this a distraction for Corey?
Because Corey's already...
Corey seems to be...
Like, how does Corey handle this?
How does he handle this?
Does he have a plan laid out in front of him already?
Does this even matter to him?
You know, this truck?
Oh, because he's going somewhere.
Well, is he going, you know what I mean?
Does he have a pass?
laid out from.
I mean, the opinion is that there is a path.
The opinion, I think, in the Toyota camp is very, very high on him,
and that this truck thing is just a placeholder,
just a stopgap, opportunity for him to gain knowledge,
race, gain racecraft.
But I don't think his result this past weekend,
good or bad affect his future in any way.
I think there's already a motion in play, right?
I can't say what I think that is.
I mean, he racing a cup race already this year,
so that kind of tells you what they're thinking.
Yeah, but what is he going to, is he going to beat Riley?
Or what did push Riley out?
What's going to happen there?
Yeah, what's Denny Roe saying?
Yeah, what's Dean?
I don't have any information from Denny.
Information.
Oh, he's stumbling here.
I'm just saying, though.
Okay, but what happens if Denny retires?
He does know. Did you see how he just kind of struggled to get that out?
What happens when Denny retires though?
There's going to be a spot open there.
Why don't you tell us?
Denny retiring?
I said when.
Damn.
Y'all talking about that?
I mean, that must be happening soon.
Corey ain't going to sit around forever.
I don't know when it's happening.
Oh, man.
You foreshadowing.
Yeah.
I'm just saying.
I think the fact that you put him in a cup car says that Toyota thinks a lot about him.
Dude, yes.
I mean, I wouldn't be surprised if he's in Riley's car next year.
He filled in for Eric Jones for a while there, didn't he?
Would y'all?
No, I wouldn't.
No, I would.
Really?
I think, yeah.
Why?
Why?
Why would you?
It's a fully sponsored car.
It won't be fully sponsored with, um,
you don't think Corey can get sponsors?
I don't, I don't know what, yeah.
I just know that he's got a fully sponsored car.
Also, like, we don't even know if 2311's going to have charters next year.
Who knows?
You probably know.
I have no zero information.
Yeah, I don't know.
I think Corey Heim is...
He doesn't need to waste time with this.
Oh, no.
I mean, you know what?
He could for fun.
He could.
He's already got a path, though, and Elaine,
like this is where Lane needs to be careful because these guys,
if they start coming back, they're going to hinder your progress.
You don't have a...
Does Lane have a set path?
Probably not.
Lane doesn't.
So Lane, I don't think that Lane has anything like,
lined up beyond what he's doing right now.
He's got to make it work. He's got to win races.
And that's why he's
got this attitude. For sure. Hey dude, I don't
give a shit about nobody.
I'm racing.
He's racing for his career every lap.
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All right. So we got Christopher Bell, the winner from the
All-Star race joining us here.
And thank you, Christopher, for giving us some time
today. I know you're busy. You got a big week
coming up with the 600, which is an exciting race in this season.
And we're going on prime for the first time with Amazon.
So it should be pretty interesting to see how the broadcast looks.
But thinking back on the All-Star race, loved the passion and excitement that you showed on the front straightaway.
Every time we see, you know, we have people win races.
We love to see how much it means to them.
I guess talk about that.
What was, why was that race or that win?
so exciting for you.
Well, first off, I want to say thank you for getting us North Wilkesboro Speedway back.
That's...
I wish I could take all the credit, but it's been fun being a part of that process, to be honest with you.
I did it selfish reasons just to get it scam for NASCAR or for I racing,
and then we ended up doing that late model race there and got Marcus's mind going.
But, yeah, it's a hell of the racetrack.
It looks like a lot of fun to race on.
It, dude, it is awesome, man.
Like I just can't believe how good a repave track is.
Like, yeah, I mean, you've lived through repaves, I'm sure, way more than me.
And normally repaves are terrible and everyone dreads going to them.
But this reconfiguration, the new pavement, it, it, it hears to the tire really well.
You move around.
It's, I mean, it genuinely is one of the best short tracks, if not the best short track that we have on the calendar.
Like, it's awesome.
and just to see the passion that the fans have for that place is, you know, the atmosphere is electric and it's, it really is a unique, a unique experience going there for the All-Star race.
And every time we've been there, the fans have showed up.
What's it like riding the elevator up to Victory Lane?
So I literally, from the first time I saw the elevator ride, I think it was a late model race.
That one late model race after you guys, we'd whacked all the grass out of the track.
I'm like, dude, that is freaking cool.
That has got to be one of the top three victory lanes.
And so I've been wanting to do that for a long time.
And it was a very special moment that I'll cherish for the rest of my life.
Well, man, it's awesome to win the All-Star race.
It is an exhibition, but it is something that I think a lot of drivers,
kind of like a Daytona 500, it's cool to have on your resume.
As we pivot and go to the 600 at Charlotte,
I feel like that the 600 at Charlotte has been one of the top most entertaining races for the series of the last couple of years.
What's the driver's perspective about going there and racing?
I know the mile and a half stuff looks like a lot of fun for us to watch.
I'm not exactly sure what it's like behind the wheel.
But give us a little insight.
Yeah, I mean, for whatever reason, the mile and a half stuff has been really good for the next gen car.
And Charlotte has really become, the Charlotte Oval, has become one of the best tracks on the schedule for, you know, this rules package and the car that we have today.
It races really, really good.
And it's surprising because normally the next-gen car doesn't take bumps very well.
And Charlotte turns three and four is probably one of the roughest tracks on the schedule.
But it's, yeah, it just, you have options, you have different lanes, and that allows you to get big runs off the corner.
and make passes.
So it definitely races really good.
I think it's more of a product of the racetrack
than the 600 miles.
Obviously, the Coca-Cola 600 is a marquee event,
and it's a crown jewel,
but I think it really comes down to Charlotte's just a great track,
and it fits this rules package that we're in right now.
You're talking about the bumps in three and four.
What are your options getting down in the corner?
Can you go under those bumps?
Is there a way to, you know, obviously maybe they're not as bad,
up at the top of the racetrack.
Where do you not want to be in that corner?
Yeah, so they are bad on the top, for sure.
And last year, I remember I tried to really blitz the top of three and four on low air pressure,
and my car actually bottomed out pretty bad and caught me off guard.
But it seems like if you're going to run the bottom, it takes a really big arc because
it's rougher on the lower part of the track on entry to three.
So it takes a really big arc to get down to the bottom to, to, to, to, you know,
miss that the large whatever it is down there i don't even know it feels like mountains uh it whenever
the tires start to age you lose that ability to arc that big whether you get loose in or tied in
and then it just starts paying off to to start rounding that that entry and keeping your momentum up
around the top uh they've really hit some um hit on something really good with the the
track treatment i think i don't even know if it's resin i think it is resin that they put on
the top half of the track and like turns one and two there's there's a little bit more grip the
higher you go um and obviously the shortest distance down there's better on new tires so it's just
it's a place that moves around a lot has good good options and and that's what it takes to have
good racing nowadays with this car you've talked about the uh intermediate's kind of been somewhere
y'all need to get a little bit stronger yeah yeah y'all have y'all had been there y'all
or y'all seem to have really good speed last year.
Help us kind of understand how you lose that.
How do you find yourself?
And where do you go looking, I guess,
to gain back that competitive strength?
Yeah, so that's a great question.
And it's the same question that I've been asking my team,
and I'm sure Adam's been like looking at me,
being like, dude, I don't know what to tell you.
And certainly at the end of last year,
it felt like intermediates were really, really good.
We had great races at Kansas and Vegas.
Even Homestead was pretty good for me in the fall last year.
And then we go back this year.
I think Vegas was the first intermediate track, and it just was a little bit off.
And obviously, Kansas was a little bit off.
Darlington, anytime we have that big diffuser and bigger spoiler on the car,
we just haven't had the pace to contend for leading laps and stage wins, race wins.
But I will say our teammates have been called.
close. Like Denny has been really fast at a couple of these tracks. He won Darlington.
So we don't have to look far, but for whatever reason, I don't know if we're trying the
same stuff that we did last year. And then other guys have just learned and improved a little
bit. But certainly the 20 team has been off of our teammates. So it is refreshing knowing that
it's in our company. And that just shows that the Toyota cars and we have all the resources and
the tools to be competitive. We just got to work on the details a little bit more and get it to
where I can hold my right foot down a little bit further. Yeah, is it an overall grip thing? Is it a,
you know, is it you lose front grip, rear grip or just overall grip? So it's interesting because,
so I'm going to use Kansas and North Wilkesboro as examples here. At Kansas, I go out to practice
and I actually felt really good about my car and I thought my balance was nice and I come in. I tell
latim. We got it this time. He goes, okay, look at the lap times. And it was just off. Like,
we were close to half a second off at certain times in the run throughout practice, specifically
compared to the Hendrick cars. And I'm like, uh-oh, that's not good whenever I'm feeling
comfortable in the car. I like my balance. And then we go to North Wilkesboro this weekend,
and I was completely sideways to unload off the truck and practice. Like, just looses a goose.
and our pace was fast.
So I'm like, man, that's a really good sign.
And it was really eye-opening that whenever you have the car potential,
when you have the speed, you have it.
And then sometimes you don't have it.
So I knew at North Wilkesboro, like, we got the balance.
If we got the balance in, I was going to be able to compete.
And then that heat race, they hit it perfect.
And I was able to drive away.
I felt like we were a little bit better in the heat race than we were on the main event on Saturday night.
But, yeah, the lowdown force stuff has been pretty good.
We need a little bit more on the intermediate package.
Right on, man.
Well, you've got 600 miles this weekend to dial her in.
And I know you're going to have a lot of fun out there.
We'll be watching and enjoying the broadcast.
So thanks for giving us some time today.
Looking forward to seeing the rest of your season
and hopefully working your way into the playoffs
and going for that championship, bud.
Thank you, guys.
We'll see you next time.
All right.
Thank you.
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I'm going to try to open up the chat.
There it is.
All right.
Good to see everybody.
Good to be here.
Hello from Des Moines, Iowa.
Good morning from Greensboro, North Carolina.
Awesome to have everybody.
Join us today.
Hello from Australia.
Good to hear from Texas, New Zealand.
Whoa.
Oh, man.
It's Maine.
All right.
I was just talking to LaTart this morning, Central Texas.
I love this technology.
It's bringing us all together.
What's LaTart got to do with any of that?
He's from Maine.
Oh.
I am excited to get to these questions, so let's get started.
Andrews here with us.
Yes.
This first one is from the YouTube chat.
Emily wants to know
Did you hear Morgan Wallen
reference your dad in a new song
On his new album?
Yeah.
What'd you think of that?
Yeah.
I always like it when
Well, I always like it when they talk nice about dad.
Anytime, you know,
anytime he's kind of referenced in a song,
I think it's kind of cool,
especially as, you know,
we, you know,
it's a different generation.
Yeah.
Younger people appreciating his legacy
and all that good stuff.
It's kind of cool how his,
legacy has lived on and continues to be
you know kind of something discussed in pop culture.
This next question, let's see,
is coming from Dylan.
You know, the Indy 500 is on Sunday.
You've been showered with beer before.
What are your thoughts on the milk shower
and would you be all right with that as race car driver?
Yeah, you won the Indy 500.
I wouldn't really...
What type of milk would you do?
There would be just a few select things
that I wouldn't want dump
on me under any occasion.
But if I'm, you know, you went into the Indy 500, I don't think you care of milk or beer, champagne, whatever.
Buffalo sauce.
Buffalo sauce.
What about that green stuff from Nickelodeon?
Slime?
Yeah.
Have you been slimed?
I've never been slimed.
Wow.
Kind of wish I would have happened, but that ship is sailed.
Remember the race at Chicago?
Nobody's sliming in an old, 50-year-old man, all right?
We can find them right.
We're not doing it just to do it.
Yeah, you got to win.
You got to win something.
It would have been cool to have happened back in the day when I was popular,
and it would have been, you know,
and I might have had a reason to go on Nickelodeon and get slimed.
I think Truex got slimed on Nickelode.
He did.
He did.
Or in Victory Lane.
Yeah, in Victory Lane.
For the Nickelodeon race.
Yeah.
There you go.
Yeah.
What could have been?
Yep.
Kenzie wants to know with the Coke 600 this weekend,
your home track growing up,
do you have a favorite memory
as a kid running around the Coke 600?
Charlotte was great because
we didn't get to go to
we didn't get to go to
all the races.
And so we knew
we weren't going to miss Charlotte. So
you knew the whole family was going to be there.
The Earnhardt's and the Ureys
always parked in
the last turn
of the road course.
So the road course,
So the road course, the traditional road course that they run,
has always been there in the infield,
and we always parked up on the very top of the outside of the last turn.
You know where that wall is that divides the road courses,
the entry to the road course and the exit?
We parked kind of right up on top of that hill,
and that wall wasn't there.
But it was a pretty good vantage point to be able to see
over the rest of the trucks and campers to watch the cars go through turns one and two
and around the rest of the racetrack.
And then they built the suites, the condos, and we went and stayed, you know, we'd go
and hang out in the condos, and that was fun.
It was a little stuffy in there, you know,
you had to be dressed up a little bit more.
You weren't wearing T-shirts and jeans and getting dirty and playing in the mud
and dirt with your friends in the infield.
I, you know, but I just, you know, just always went.
I don't know.
I don't really have a memory that stands out.
I mean, that all-star race in 87 was a vibe.
I mean, damn, that was a wild, that was a wild day.
But I remember, you know, I remember dad went in,
and I remember it's having some tough races there, blown motors.
But, yeah.
Let's see.
With another Memorial Day question,
what is your must-have hot dog and burger toppings?
Are you a ketchup on a hot dog guy?
Sure.
Make some Chicagoans upset.
Really?
Oh, people hate it.
Are you serious?
It's so stupid.
Yeah.
You can't put ketchup on a hot dog in Chicago?
No.
There's establishments that won't even provide ketchup.
Oh, interesting.
Dang.
I put ketchup mustard and I like deal relish.
But mostly probably, I don't really,
deal relish isn't actually that important.
Nah, that's disgusting.
I don't like the other relish, the regular relish.
Like, I like deal relish.
But I need chili, ketchup, and mustard.
That's pretty simple.
Now, on the burger, yeah, cheese, ketchup, mustard, and pickle.
No tomato.
No, no tomato.
No, no tomato.
On everything ever.
Now, I eat tomato by, I mean, I'll eat tomato on bread with salt and pepper.
Wait, just.
So disgusting.
Just bread and tomato.
Yeah, it's disgusting.
Tomato sandwich.
I've never heard of that.
Oh, yeah.
It's disgusting.
Really?
Yeah.
My dad used to eat them all the time.
Really?
Yeah.
Damn.
You got to get like, you know, nice, big, ripe tomatoes.
Not no, not no little stuff.
It's got to be so big that it almost takes up the whole.
Pieza breas.
So how can you not put it on a burger and like it, but you can like it on its own?
Yeah.
I don't know.
Tomato is very much topping.
You got to blend with other stuff to forget about it.
I have?
You have had a tomato sandwich?
Oh, no, not a tomato sandwich.
So you have it.
Can we have them try one on S Jr.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Disgusting.
Mager sandwich is the best.
Thank you, Blake.
I will try it.
Tomato and mayo sandwich.
Brandon.
How do I?
Tomato sandwich.
Yum.
Pamela.
everybody else seems to think it's perfectly fine
I've never heard I just I've never heard of it
well that's okay
because you're 12 so wait wait if I were to do this
if I were to I'll eat a tomato sandwich
what type of bread put some
put some Helmand's mayo on the bread
it doesn't matter what kind of bread but traditionally
yeah um
a little bit of mayo not a ton
mayo right people don't people think you've got a cake
you don't just put regular spread of mayo
salt and pepper
on put the tomato on there salt and pepper and then make it and eat it quick what would it
take to get you to eat one of those you nothing i'm not doing it for nothing it's not a price no
there's a price five dollars no i'm not even ten dollars no twenty dollars you need to add a lot of
five no 25 50 no 25 75 we've got to be getting close because i know how cheap no we're
let's start at a thousand oh damn dude i hate tomatoes oh it just doesn't like tomatoes oh it just doesn't
like tomatoes. It ain't so much that he doesn't like the sandwich
idea. He's just not a tomato guy. No, I'm not a tomato guy.
Sandwich idea is not bad at all.
All right, so we'll do the sandwich without the tomato.
Boo says to toast it. That's not a bad idea.
Oh. All right. I like that.
We'll have Mike eat one of those sandwiches too. Have you ever tried liver mush?
I've not tried liver mish.
I actually tried. You cooked it that one time.
It's so good. I might get
crucified for this, but what exactly is liver mish?
We don't ask that. We just, uh, it's just, uh, it's
You don't know.
It's not a really important question.
Does it look like it sounds?
No, I mean, when he cooked it the time I tried it, it was burnt,
and I just put ketchup on and ate it, so it was all right.
So is it like a meat?
Yeah, probably.
It's like a meat.
It's got meat in it.
Cut it really thin, and you make it really crispy.
Oh, that doesn't look bad.
Yeah, you make it crispy.
Don't worry about what it looks like before you cook it.
It's not fun.
Cut it thin, put it in a frying pan, and flip it and make it crispy.
Mustard.
Calvert with ketchup.
No, ketchup.
Ketchup.
Oh, yeah.
Coulbert with ketchup.
Stop that.
You put mustard on it or you don't want to put anything on it.
What about cheese?
You could.
Yeah, you could, I guess.
And then you make it a sandwich.
You can eat it by itself, though.
You know who's a massive fan of Livermush's Stenhouse.
Really?
Yeah.
It's me and Stenhouse.
We text about it.
That's what you bought over.
Any time I'm eating it or cooking it.
What are you doing?
Vice versa.
Eating a liver mush sandwich.
What do you think I was doing?
Because it's like we're the only two in the world that like it.
They're texts back and forth.
They're just liver mush.
And then like the occasional happy birthday.
No.
Oh.
I don't really send many happy birthday text messages.
It's hard.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of letters.
It is.
Yeah.
Too much work.
It's a lot of work.
It doesn't like spell it out for me.
Like I type in the HAP.
Oh, it's so nice now.
Make a keyboard shortcut.
You know the best thing that it did is stop when you did want to type a word.
It doesn't correct that word or something else now.
You know what I mean?
Like, there was a lot when you type a swear word, it would always correct it.
Now it doesn't do that.
Yeah.
Yes.
Have any of you all ever ate spam?
Yeah.
Had it once.
Wait, what is it?
Does that mean?
Spam.
It's kind of like a baloney.
It is.
Sizzle, pork.
Mmm.
What?
I don't think I'm a big fan of it.
I would eat it.
I wouldn't not eat it, but I'm not something.
It's not something I seek out.
I hadn't had that forever.
What if you're in Hawaii would you have?
Because that's like where it's popular.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Like it's served everywhere.
Hawaiian rolls.
I guess I would.
Spamming Hawaiian rolls.
I'm sure they make it taste pretty good.
I'm sure they add a couple.
other things to it.
My grandfather always had some spam at the house.
You ever had...
Someone said nasty in the group chat.
Group chat.
Well, we don't know what they're referring to.
There's a lot of things in this conversation.
Could have been tomatoes, liver mush.
Could have been anything.
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Russell, thanks for coming back.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, I appreciate it.
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Last week, Russ was big on Ligano and Blaney.
Good thing we didn't tell any of those.
bets. We were close, but we did avoid Kuzlowski. All right. Maybe we get a refund for being close.
I'm not sure how this works. Yeah, refunds. Do we get the refund for being close?
Did we not say top five for those guys? Oh, we did. Well, um, did anybody make any good bets
that cashed? I don't know if it was a good bet, but Chris Buster top 10, be careful. Travis is sitting
next to you. He will let you know. I bet Chris Buster top 10 and boy, was that a
sweat the whole race. I don't think he touched the top
10. No, yeah. And then he finished him.
So I was like, oh my God.
So good for that.
But yeah. You still won. Yeah.
Doesn't matter. I'm happy with that. Yeah.
You still won.
But I had Bubba to win the Open, too, and I was
frustrated. There was a lot going on in that race,
especially at the end. A lot of guys that were fading,
some guys that gained a done a track position late,
like Chastain that held on to it.
Kind of screwed up a bunch of bets, I'm sure.
Yeah, yeah, for sure. I had Brad in a matchup bet, too.
I think it's Kyle.
So that was tough to see T.J.
We were right around each other for a while.
Yeah, it was going to be a good race, yeah.
Well, for the Coke 600, let's see here, the top five Larson's at plus 500,
Reddick and Hamlin plus 700, Bell and Blaney plus 750.
Russ, do you agree with all that?
I agree with all that.
I'd add William Byron in there as well, but other than that, those are my top five.
All right.
Tim's?
Yeah, Byron had starred at Plus 900.
I like that a lot.
I think he should be up there with those guys a little bit more on the odds.
All right.
So there's some featured matchups this week, Christopher Bell versus William Byron.
What do we think?
I like the Denny over Kyle Larson one.
Wait, wait.
Easy, Travis.
Yeah.
Christopher Bell versus William Byron.
Do we have the predictor for that?
Russell.
They're like right on each other.
And listen to this.
So they've been in the next gen car 120 times together.
Byron's finished better 61 times, Bell, 59 times.
Tyler Reddick.
What about Tyler Reddick and Blaney?
It's almost the same thing.
Damn.
You couldn't.
I just don't.
They are 60 versus 60.
But when you look at like a mile and a half tracks, I would lean towards Redick.
He's a little better.
But it's like by one position.
I'll take Blaney then.
I don't get a feeling that Redick is putting his best performance on here lately
And you didn't like him in Kansas
Reddick has never finished outside the top 10 in the 600
It's going to happen
Denny Hamlin Larson
You've got to lean Larson a little bit
It leans Larson
Kyle Busch Alex Bowman
Hold on Tim's that's when you wanted right
Yeah I disagree
I think anytime the doubles in play
I think you just fade Larson
I think you fade that.
I don't think there's a lot of focus there.
Oh, yeah.
Kyle Busch and Bowman.
This is the only one that I feel confident that it's Bowman.
Because Kyle's going to spin out, duh.
And recently he's done much better on the mile and a half tracks than Kyle Busch.
Alex has been sneaky fast lately, like quiet.
Yeah, he has.
Both of them have a hard time, like, getting to the family.
finish, right?
They'll have both of them will, I think both of them will be,
have moments in the 600, but it's the,
I struggle like feeling confident about which one's going to
have the night, you know, like at the end of the day on paper,
like which one's going to have the better result?
Because I honestly feel like both of them will probably look pretty similar.
Yeah.
Well, there's no line, there's no official lines out on any of these yet,
but be interesting.
I think if I had to go through the four, I would say Christopher Bell, Blaney, Larson, Bowman.
That'll be mine.
Russ, what is the predictor?
Where are some other drivers that are the predictors high on?
So I think the sleeper one would be Josh Berry.
Like he's 11th on the predictor, and that's way higher than he normally is.
You know, one Las Vegas, he was sixth in the last mile and a half race, and just has
run way better recently. So I think that's the one we got to look at, maybe top 10 bet.
I think winning's a little of a stretch, but, and then if you're not looking for another,
like maybe top 10 bet, Ricky Stenhouse Jr. I know it's a surprise, but he's been seventh
and two of the last three, six hundredths. He's been top 15 and seven of the last nine six hundreds.
Yeah. Running right there. The thing about the 600 is you, that extra 100 miles, while maybe it doesn't seem
like a massive addition.
It does add to,
it does create opportunity for guys like Stenhouse to, you know,
overachieve a bit by a few positions, right?
And to your point, I think that's, this race always, you know,
puts the mental side of it to a test.
Could you feel it when you were in the car like, okay, like, oh, yeah.
You would get to the 500th mile and you'd go into reserves, right?
Because your body and everything about your mental, everything you're like...
Muscle memory.
Well, no, like you're...
Every week, you're doing the same distance pretty much.
And your body is trained to like expend all of its mental and physical ability in that period of time.
and when you get to that moment in that
600 mile race, you go into reserves.
And that last 100 miles is really where you see
who's mentally strong and who's got,
you know, who's got the most in the tank.
It'll be a, in this opportunity for guys like Stenhouse
that will be smart, take care of their car,
run 20th, 18th, 17th, 15th,
and by the end of the night,
they'll get up there and snagged a couple spots
and find themselves with a,
you know, a 10th, 11th, 12th place finish in this long race. It's a long race,
just another 100 miles longer than most, but it's, that 100 miles might as well be another
300, to be honest with you. So that'll, I don't know if I have as much confidence in some of the
other things we've said here today, but I think that Stenhouse bets a pretty good one.
Dale, we don't, we don't do 500 mile races on a half tracks anymore.
either. So, like, this is, like, all our 500 mile races are super speedways. So this is,
this is even more taxing. It's a great point. Yep. It's a great point. So it's just always
been a race where you've had, you know, you've had guys like a McDowell or, or you can see
some of these guys in the back getting those top 15s or maybe even that fringe top 10 that, you
know, it's going to be that one of three or four top tens that they're going to get throughout the year.
and just kind of taking a risk on who that might be, but we'll see.
You got something different, Tim's?
I like a lot of what the professor said.
I would add maybe Almondinger to that list, although obviously he's had a lot of engine failures and stuff like that.
I would put Brad in there this one.
This is Brad's type of race.
Are you against that one, too?
I like that.
Professor.
I'm talking to the professor over here.
He's very, very low on my predictor this week.
Perfect.
That's exactly what I wanted to hear.
We have, there's tiers in this predictor, what tier is he in?
Russ?
He is, he is in tier three.
Oh, now there's tears in TJ's eye.
No, there's not, this is just fuel for the fire here, man.
This is good.
Now, I will say, he was runner up last year, right?
You were runner up last year?
Yeah, do you not remember him getting ready to pass bell before the rain came?
That probably predictor doesn't show that.
You don't remember that?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
He was fast at Kansas and he had some speed in the all-star race.
So all right.
Well, I'm a little nervous about that, but I still think you're not outside the top 10.
I will, no, I think, let's take, let's do a Brad Casalowski, Stenhouse, Josh Berry, top 10.
One of the one I'm really worried about there is Josh.
I think Josh has the speed, but does he have the mental fortitude for the 600 miles?
Where to your point, his, you know, they're running traditionally 400 miles.
So there's a giant chunk of more racing to do, more trying to get.
through things without making mistakes.
Yeah, I don't, I'm not worried about, from what I've seen with my eyes,
as you with Josh, I'm not worried.
He's matured a bunch, and I really, I think Josh's come a long way.
All right, thank you so much.
Appreciate you coming through, Professor.
Thank you, Tim's.
Thank you.
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